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Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 12, 2013, 1:26:16 PM4/12/13
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Speaking of these stupid restrictions:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/47e7cc28a6b39348

"Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies".

Amazingly, most don't realize how badly Ray Banana ( the SysOp )
is insulting them. They're getting "played", big time.

Eternal⋅September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.

By default, apps munge my monospaced, PREformatted, indented "code";
so my posts begin: <<

<PRE style = 'White-Space: PRE !important;
Font-Size: Larger !important'> >>

Ivan Shmakov

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Apr 12, 2013, 1:48:26 PM4/12/13
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>>>>> Jeff-Relf Me <@.> writes:

[Dropping news:comp.os.linux.advocacy and news:sci.physics from
Newsgroups: as non-applicable, and setting Followup-To:
news:news.software.readers, for my followup only concerns the
"readers" issue.]

[...]

> Eternal·September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.

> By default, apps munge my monospaced, PREformatted, indented "code";
> so my posts begin: «

> <PRE style = 'White-Space: PRE !important; Font-Size: Larger
> !important'> »

Nice, I'm glad for you. Please note, however, that a "proper"
newsreader would value user's opinion above the one of the
message's author, and thus most probably would just ignore any
"style" attributes (as well as <style /> tags, etc.) altogether.

But what makes me /truly/ happy is that /my/ newsreader (powered
by the Lynx HTML rendering engine) does it exactly this way.

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tlvp

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Apr 12, 2013, 9:17:24 PM4/12/13
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:26:16 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> Eternal⋅September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.

Don't want that? Simple: don't use <A.> tags :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
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Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 12, 2013, 9:29:50 PM4/12/13
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Like the sysop himself ( Ray Banana ), I'm making fun of 
Eternal-Newbie ( "Eternal-September" ) users, not complaining.

What kind of a 'tard would go to such lengths,
spending his own money, in an effort to prevent EVERYONE
from using <A> tags, as Mr. Banana does ?

Mr. "tlvp" tells me:
> Don't want that? Simple: don't use <A> tags :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

Exactly; sometimes I use <A> tags, sometimes I don't.

Snit

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Apr 12, 2013, 9:33:58 PM4/12/13
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On 4/12/13 6:17 PM, in article dheoadjzl3le$.d9qlonf...@40tude.net,
"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB...@att.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:26:16 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>> Eternal・September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.
>
> Don't want that? Simple: don't use <A.> tags :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

Eternal-September is a good enough Usenet provider to not allow HTML tags in
a text forum! Excellent!


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Clearly, I don't understand what I read.
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Snit

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Apr 12, 2013, 9:37:01 PM4/12/13
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On 4/12/13 6:29 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{18.29.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> �
Are you really unable to figure out why HTML tags would be a detriment to a
text based medium?


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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 12, 2013, 9:37:51 PM4/12/13
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In article <dheoadjzl3le$.d9qlonf...@40tude.net>,
mPiOsUcB...@att.net says...
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:26:16 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
> > Eternal�September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.
>
> Don't want that? Simple: don't use <A.> tags :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

Yeah, that'll happen. Like never.

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observing the means he uses to frighten you. Eric Hoffer

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 12, 2013, 10:51:39 PM4/12/13
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Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".

It is text, by the way, not video.
If someone posts videos, and you don't like it, don't read those posts.

YOU decide what to read, not your NNTP server.

Snit

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Apr 12, 2013, 11:19:09 PM4/12/13
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On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> �
It has already been established you do not get the concept of a Usenet text
forum. Not sure why you keep harping on the fact.


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Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 1:22:53 AM4/13/13
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Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED.

You (Mr. "Snit") are reading an HTML post rught now;
and you've been replying to them, no problem.

Perhaps you think Usenet should be ( but isn't )
VASTLY different than emails; if so, I don't agree with you.

<A> tags are NOT devil's spawn; it's MUCH more innocent than that.
Again: YOU decide what to read, don't let your sysop make that call.

Mark S Bilk

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:43:53 AM4/13/13
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On Apr 12, 10:22 pm, Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> sci.physics, news.software.readers, alt.usenet.kooks

> [his usual load of garbage]

Checkmate

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Apr 13, 2013, 3:00:38 AM4/13/13
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On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 23:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Mark S Bilk put forth the
notion that:
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Apr 13, 2013, 10:04:29 AM4/13/13
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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I do like your character set choice!


benj

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Apr 13, 2013, 10:27:30 AM4/13/13
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:07:41 +0000, Gary Burnore wrote:


> 1. Jeff is a dope.

True.

> 2. Jeff, in tis case, is right.

Not true.

> C. That makes you dumber than a dope.

Makes Gary dumber than a dope.

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 11:30:05 AM4/13/13
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Thank you ( Mark⋅S⋅Bilk, a Google Groups user ) for reading my posts.

Also, thanks for your replies; I love how you draw attention to me.

Mark S Bilk

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Apr 13, 2013, 11:48:53 AM4/13/13
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On Apr 13, 8:30 am, Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, comp.os.linux.advocacy,
sci.physics, news.software.readers, alt.usenet.kooks

Relf: You will never be a Usenet Kook. That would require
that your posts be entertaining in some way.

Please confine your posting to alt.usenet.shitheads.

> Thank you (Mark S Bilk, a Google Groups user) for reading
my posts. Also, thanks for your replies; I love how you draw
attention to me.

Fuck off and die.

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Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:28:47 PM4/13/13
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Lame, meaningless insults: "fucking coward", "kook" and "liar".

You ( Gary⋅Burnore, a tin user and wannabe insulter ) have no game.
  
Into The Dog House you go, sad puppy.

GreyCloud

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:46:02 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/2013 9:48 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> On Apr 13, 8:30 am, Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>> Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers, comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> sci.physics, news.software.readers, alt.usenet.kooks
>
> Relf: You will never be a Usenet Kook. That would require
> that your posts be entertaining in some way.
>
> Please confine your posting to alt.usenet.shitheads.
>

Why should he... is that where you reside?

>> Thank you (Mark S Bilk, a Google Groups user) for reading
> my posts. Also, thanks for your replies; I love how you draw
> attention to me.
>
> Fuck off and die.
>

LOL!!!

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:53:53 PM4/13/13
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On 4/12/13 10:22 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{22.22.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> �
Again: you are showing you do not really understand text-based Usenet
discussions. Why do you keep harping on your ignorance about this. Let it
go.


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Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:56:03 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 5:07 AM, in article kkbhqd$jst$2...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>>> ??
>>> Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".
>>>
>>> It is text, by the way, not video.
>>> If someone posts videos, and you don't like it, don't read those posts.
>>>
>>> YOU decide what to read, not your NNTP server.
>>>
>> It has already been established you do not get the concept of a Usenet text
>> forum. Not sure why you keep harping on the fact.
>>
> 1. Jeff is a dope.
> 2. Jeff, in tis case, is right.
> C. That makes you dumber than a dope.

Most Usenet forums are considered pure text... and, yes, of course HTML is a
text format as well, but it is rendered by a web browser.

If you want to use a web discussion group that is fine by my. But that is
not what Usenet is.
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Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 1:43:42 PM4/13/13
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Usenet is a form of email.

Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet;
including HTML emails/posts.

Mozilla Thunderbird, for example, displays HTML flawlessly;
in fact, both Thunderbird and Firefox came from the Netscape browser.

%

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Apr 13, 2013, 1:45:53 PM4/13/13
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"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message news:Jeff-R...@Apr.13{10.43.Seattle.2013}...
is this supposed to be news

Michael Moroney

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Apr 13, 2013, 1:52:38 PM4/13/13
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:

>On 4/12/13 10:22 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{22.22.Seattle.2013},
>"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

>> �
>> Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED.
>>
>> You (Mr. "Snit") are reading an HTML post rught now;
>> and you've been replying to them, no problem.
>>
>> Perhaps you think Usenet should be ( but isn't )
>> VASTLY different than emails; if so, I don't agree with you.
>>
>> <A> tags are NOT devil's spawn; it's MUCH more innocent than that.
>> Again: YOU decide what to read, don't let your sysop make that call.
>>
>Again: you are showing you do not really understand text-based Usenet
>discussions. Why do you keep harping on your ignorance about this. Let it
>go.

I think it's much more than not understanding how text-based Usenet
is supposed to work. My personal opinion is that he has some form of
antisocial personality disorder, that is, he doesn't care about the wants
or needs of others. Everything should be his way and everyone else needs
needs to change to his way, never the other way around. But I am not
a psychiatrist, just a kookwatcher, so take this with a railcar full of
salt.

Eternal-September is an example of old-time Usenet semi-anarchy. "My
server, my rules". HTML Usenet is against E-S's owner's rules. Don't
like it, go somewhere else. Relf is already somewhere else, he just
needs to quit whining about E-S.

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:00:29 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 10:36 AM, in article kkc53m$dij$1...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/13 5:07 AM, in article kkbhqd$jst$2...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
>> Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
>>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".
>>>>>
>>>>> It is text, by the way, not video.
>>>>> If someone posts videos, and you don't like it, don't read those posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU decide what to read, not your NNTP server.
>>>>>
>>>> It has already been established you do not get the concept of a Usenet text
>>>> forum. Not sure why you keep harping on the fact.
>>>>
>>> 1. Jeff is a dope.
>>> 2. Jeff, in tis case, is right.
>>> C. That makes you dumber than a dope.
>>
>> Most Usenet forums are considered pure text...
>
> First, git, its not Usenet, its The USENet.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet>
-----
Usenet is a worldwide distributed Internet discussion system.
-----

> Second, they're not Usenet forums, they are newsgroups.

The term forum is often used and is technically correct:

<http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/forum>
-----
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas
-----

<http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/forum>
-----
a medium for open discussion
-----

<https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/forum>
-----
A forum is a public discussion. It can refer to a meeting, a meeting
house or any conversation that is available publicly.
-----

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forum>
-----
a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or
expression of ideas
-----

> Third, while many are text, the majority, unfortunately, are binary.

Depends on if you consider the binary groups to be "forums"... not really
interested in such a silly semantic debate.

>> and, yes, of course HTML is a text format as well,
>> but it is rendered by a web browser.
>
> Which has nothing to do with the statement that it's not up to your provider
> to filter that FOR you.

If a provider is working to help ignorant users follow the rules I am OK
with that.

>> If you want to use a web discussion group that is fine by my. But that is
>> not what Usenet is.
>>
> Ignorant git, you use User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206
> I use tin, a fucking UNIX TEXT READER.

What you use is of no interest to me. None.

> You are a pissant, thinking you know something. I'm an administrator, fairly
> well versed in USENET. (Check around)

Who you are is of no interest to me. None.

> Lastly, you're a fucking kook and I'm the current FNVW.
>
>
> Git.

Your insults and poor attitude speak poorly of you. Of note: I shall not
sink to your level no matter how hard you try to pull me down. You shall
try, no doubt - it is not like you are the first Usenet troll I have
encountered! Your actions are quite predictable.



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Others feel that all sex is disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:01:27 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 10:43 AM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{10.43.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> Usenet is a form of email.

Incorrect.

> Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet;
> including HTML emails/posts.

Incorrect.

> Mozilla Thunderbird, for example, displays HTML flawlessly;
> in fact, both Thunderbird and Firefox came from the Netscape browser.

Irrelevant.

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:03:15 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 10:52 AM, in article kkc616$jhp$1...@pcls6.std.com, "Michael
Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:

> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>
>> On 4/12/13 10:22 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{22.22.Seattle.2013},
>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>
>>> �
>>> Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED.
>>>
>>> You (Mr. "Snit") are reading an HTML post rught now;
>>> and you've been replying to them, no problem.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you think Usenet should be ( but isn't )
>>> VASTLY different than emails; if so, I don't agree with you.
>>>
>>> <A> tags are NOT devil's spawn; it's MUCH more innocent than that.
>>> Again: YOU decide what to read, don't let your sysop make that call.
>>>
>> Again: you are showing you do not really understand text-based Usenet
>> discussions. Why do you keep harping on your ignorance about this. Let it
>> go.
>
> I think it's much more than not understanding how text-based Usenet
> is supposed to work. My personal opinion is that he has some form of
> antisocial personality disorder, that is, he doesn't care about the wants
> or needs of others. Everything should be his way and everyone else needs
> needs to change to his way, never the other way around. But I am not
> a psychiatrist, just a kookwatcher, so take this with a railcar full of
> salt.

Oh, I suspect you are correct. I am reading this thread from COLA where such
personalities are very, very common.

> Eternal-September is an example of old-time Usenet semi-anarchy. "My
> server, my rules". HTML Usenet is against E-S's owner's rules. Don't
> like it, go somewhere else. Relf is already somewhere else, he just
> needs to quit whining about E-S.

"needs" is a strong word. He should though. :)

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Steve Carroll

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:17:19 PM4/13/13
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On Apr 13, 12:03 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/13 10:52 AM, in article kkc616$jh...@pcls6.std.com, "Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Moroney" <moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>
> >> On 4/12/13 10:22 PM, in article Jeff-Relf...@Apr.12{22.22.Seattle.2013},
> >> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED.
>
> >>> You (Mr. "Snit") are reading an HTML post rught now;
> >>> and you've been replying to them, no problem.
>
> >>> Perhaps you think Usenet should be ( but isn't )
> >>> VASTLY different than emails; if so, I don't agree with you.
>
> >>> <A> tags are NOT devil's spawn; it's MUCH more innocent than that.
> >>> Again: YOU decide what to read, don't let your sysop make that call.
>
> >> Again: you are showing you do not really understand text-based Usenet
> >> discussions. Why do you keep harping on your ignorance about this. Let it
> >> go.
>
> > I think it's much more than not understanding how text-based Usenet
> > is supposed to work.  My personal opinion is that he has some form of
> > antisocial personality disorder, that is, he doesn't care about the wants
> > or needs of others.  Everything should be his way and everyone else needs
> > needs to change to his way, never the other way around.  But I am not
> > a psychiatrist, just a kookwatcher, so take this with a railcar full of
> > salt.
>
> Oh, I suspect you are correct. I am reading this thread from COLA where such
> personalities are very, very common.

Give your BS a rest for a bit...

1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area and a
login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to e-mail it to
you, and a bot will send an e-mail. *That* is the e-mail Snit got from
Sandman's website, and yes he's that fucked in the head and starved
forattention that he'd claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself.
So, don't get sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this
particular instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb
2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7

2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour
and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd
leave too. Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is
Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221

3- amicus_curious (COLA): "Where on earth do you get the idea that I
am arguing with you, little man? Is your name "Hadron"? Shoo! Go back
to your mail order business!" 29 May 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/00ee203fe6183b1b

4- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the
newsgroup." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/52eab53a559e00ce

5- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to
weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole." 25 Jun 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da

6- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why not
just let them go away and show how responsible a member of CSMA you
are? You could show your enemies up by being better than them, rise
above the low level you so obviously dislike. Anything, just
stop...." 26 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5

7- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes,
then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you set to
expire, but it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578

8- BaJoRi: "You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who has read
your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed it to be wrong,
then added even more, just to be a dick and REALLY show you to be a
fool. You need to judiciously snip out pertinent points because you
are an intellectually dwarfed turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f

9- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group can be
if you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more people don't
do the same.." 5 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903

10- Bob B.: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group,
but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a
decent discussion about anything. The solution is to NOT REPLY TO
SNIT. But for some reason, some people just can't stop feeding him."
27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190

11- =C2=B0b=C2=B0 unny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really
actually = =3D:- (" 9 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432

12- Brian: "LOL, Has anyone ever been more universally hated on the
USENET than Snit? Too bad he craves the hatred and negative attention.
We will read about him in the news some day soon going on a shooting
rampage. Somebody should get the pychopath some help before he VT's a
bunch of people. 29 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/66a89e4f5c89f489

13- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill, but you and Steve don't
help. You encourage him to post, which he doesn't need to do. We would
all be better off if you just ignore him. 17 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2ed879f256677548

14- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ... in
the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the idiotrollers like
snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts,
only your reply". 07 Aug 2006 (available only in reply)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5ea48f7a84115fd1

15- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for you to
learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of course, that your
Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9

16- cc (COLA): "You are incapable of letting anything go. In fact, I
guarantee you will respond to this post in under 3 hours. Hell, I'd be
surprised if it takes longer than 30 minutes. If I really wanted to, I
could make this little side topic go on forever, because you are a
complete moron who just has to respond to anything written about or to
you, even if it just means repeating yourself." 1 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3712090033411605

17- Chance Furlong: "HPT, Wally, Sandman, C Lund, Steve Carroll and
Tim Adams are not trolls and do not troll. You, on the other hand, are
a troll." 27 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/28c267f26965b43f

18- Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "I try to go more by the contents of the
posts. Although some clowns (e.g. Snit) spew out so much chaff it is
not worth the effort." 14 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8b6a982957c7c9d5

Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "Actually, many of the advocates are sick to
death of Snit's never-ending puerile blather about trivialities. The
occasional reasonable conversations are too few and far between." 6
Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/811326833ba71864

19- Chris Clement: "ugh....geez man.....let it go" 5 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ed093996df6547b2

20- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so, for
they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus
depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes. It's now
far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5

21- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to
"win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must
you keep this up? What results are you expecting?"

22- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep
posting your list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will not
address it any further- you being too stupid to realize and accept
that is not my problem". 22 Nov 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8

23- cshenk: "I happen to believe him over you... and I doubt I'd be
the only person in this ng to do so. You have given people a lot of
'evidence' that you are dishonest... as 'evidenced' by the quotes
list." .... "Why stop with Jonas? Why not call the entire list of
people on your quotes list 'liars'? After all, they have all labeled
you a liar, troll or worse." 27 Nov 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/909a59de04850ef5

24- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care to read]
Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but
please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290

25- Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost
all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so
many diverse people who share a common perception where do you think
the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer
doesn't require an advanced degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b

26- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought you
knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was
presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you." 30 Nov
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f

27- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and
loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i
stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up
responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for
the magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's
sharpness when i stop responding to you. you almost always start
responding back in a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's
once again that time. i can only ask that you pass my condolences to
your wife and unborn child for having to put up with such a dishonest
fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser as well, just pass
those condolences to the rug-rat to be; if not, double condolences to
her). " 30 Apr 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77

28- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest and
honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the biggest
liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove Snit was
using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give up his socks
puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever support him." 28
Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

29- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the worst
troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger, and you've
almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you to post a list of
out of context arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies
labled as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need to be
center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought
it would make people look at you." 18 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0

30- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see
a doctor." 24 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15

31- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points
in my post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode.
How childishly typical of you, Snit." 16 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5

32- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled since the
first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do like Snit'. As far
as I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist." 15 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0

33- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to
CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides
the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like
being in a room of really young children trying there best to best the
other person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you.
I hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the
middle of a great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about
Macs and more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end
then all this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has
always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank it up
to the point that this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on
stopping CSMA and making this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6

34- Geezer: Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality" Geezer:
"Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who uncover his lies
and deceit;)" Snit: "and no clue about the law." Geezer: 'Said the guy
who believes his unsupported opinions are "proof". LOL! (snip more of
Snit's unsupported lies)' 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d

35- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865

36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you
crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right
at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you
into submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage
him is to hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty
procedure that will only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and
STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd

37- gimme_this_gimme_that: "Hitting the vodka tonight Snit?" 4 Mar
2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794

38- Glenn Hall (COLA): "That person is like a constantly running
toilet that won't stop. Does he ever stop talking about UI
consistency? No matter what anyone replies, he adds a few more
branches to the spider web as it grows and grows. It's a waste of
time." 31 Oct 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c8dd8a244fe1eb2c

39- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else
notices that you are not honest and you have no honor." 21 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91

40- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate threads,
are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont ever censor
people cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna
have to cause I dont wanna see your name 40 times in a row. So uh,
change your client or something". 12 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499

41- Hadron (COLA): "Would you please stop the whining. FFS he has you
jumping to his every post. How many more fucking times are you going
to post the same repetitive garbage? Please ..at least change the
record sometimes!!!!!!!" 13 Aug 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1e0ecbb776623473

41- Hadron (COLA): "I'm not coming to the rescue of anyone. I have
Snit killfiled for his repeated reposts of the same text time and time
again." 24 Aug 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e99833d90612ee35

41- Hadron (COLA): Snit: "Anyone who denies this is a part of the
herd. Period. This is a simple black and white issue where there is
no middle ground - anyone who lies to defend Stallman's repulsive
support of child abuse *is* a part of the herd." Hadron: "Constantly
posting this dirge about Stallman and his views is about to get you
back in the killfile. Stop it. Its repulsive and vindictive on your
part." 25 Sep 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6be2e85c701763a7

42- Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must be a deeply troubled
individual who has a fragile ego. I needn't agree nor disagree with
the points above. I don't care about them. Your constant complaints,
whines, rages, etc., wars with the regular Mac advocates, whom you
mislabel as trolls, arise from your sense that any conversation or
thread must orbit around you. People have pointed that out to you but
you don't accept that. Snit I feel sorry for you. Please go and see a
doctor about your solipsism. There must be a cure for you deep
psychological travail." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8

43- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*" Aug 19 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d8afd909a308b97f

44- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the definition of
"synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example of how you attempt
to maliciously debase against anyone who disagrees with you. As such,
I consider this to be a purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me.
This is your only warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the
reminder that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a

45- High Plains Thumper: "Agreed except for Snit and socks (Joe Crump
and ad nauseum). I've got Snit kill binned, because he is the classic
ad hominem troll. At first he seems reasonable, but then it always
degrades into name calling bullying, the responder is a liar, etc. AKA
the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies. Perhaps the times he seems
reasonable are when he is properly controlled by medication." 21 Sep
2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/249a598ec5aafe85

46- Homer (COLA): "I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm
perfectly serious when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously
mentally ill, and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone
alerts his wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already
aware of his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling and/or
on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be helping much.
Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I mean that
sincerely)." 26 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8

Homer: "Word of advice for anyone concerned: don't be tempted to get
drawn into a Snit circus, it's literally a waste of time. He's just an
attention seeker who'll keep stringing you along, in a never-ending
circle of obtuse questions, for which he has no genuine interest in
the answers." 14 Oct 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0d06eb2e900e3058

47- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting to CSMA for
a long time now, since 1995 at least. There have always been trolls
and morons, but I've never seen anything quite so disruptive as the
Snit circus. Snit will *never* back down or stop, and neither will
most of his opponents. A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug
2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb

48- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to offer
support for your statements, you're reduced to personal attacks on me.
Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see that I have offered no
straw men, and have only asked you to explain how the things you state
as facts can be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this
attitude, the topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have
some insights. I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and
avoid answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was
just repeated." 6 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6

49- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh
your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over.
Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0

50- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit." 27 Feb 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cdddf5fd04d9afcb

51- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git." 23 Dec
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d

52- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me
achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from
it and those kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as
this." 18 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862

53- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you accomplishing
besides being annoying? Is that your goal?" 25 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243

54- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush mentioned in
it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on topic and not hijack
threads."

55- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved
in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to
OT things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead
and stop this crap. Try. How about it?" 25 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b

56- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than
actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I
suppose."

"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce evidence for
his claims. At least come up with some original insults Snit! I mean,
you *are* capable of original thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44

57- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall
- in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at
passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7

58- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are
you bitching about?" 1 Dec 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12ba528be5ad2665

59- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like
a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain
an unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up?
Please??" 11 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121

60- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I
just consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his
name." 7 Jan 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2

61- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be shocked
that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about being a
computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and best
ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by medication. He's here to do
one thing, get attention from people. He says the crazy stuff just to
get a reaction. You say you like to beat him over the head. Well
that's what he's counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in
hopes to get a rise out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't
regret it." 3 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314

John Slade: "Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without adding
drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage to get out of
my killfile? Oh well back into the cage you go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8

62- Josh McKee: "I have no strawman so therefore it has to be in your
mind. .... What is obnoxious are your posts." 26 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3665b9e002d27c44

63- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that even
though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll of the lot
is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If the few stragglers
that keep replying to him would just stop responding to Snit at all
this place could be worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll
pack up and take his trolling to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4

64- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your sentence
with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.' 29 Oct 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8

65- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of
putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your
position, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming,
hoping it'll all go away." 7 Mar 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a

66- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem
attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your
silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always have been."
14 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee

67- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f

68- Lawrence D'Oliveiro (COLA): "You seem to be full of complaints
about your inability to hold up your end of the argument,
aren=E2=80=99t you?" 1= 6 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8ca5f48099696228

69- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long time,
but the few times you post something worth reading just aren't worth
it anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83

70- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been
an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense
of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is
trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll." 16 Jul
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f

71-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors CBS
News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit is
cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit he's wrong." 28
Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf

72- libsnightmare: "You're a sore loser who has resorted to fifth
grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to edit
posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie. Once
again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4 May
2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e

73- Linonut (cola): "Snit may be the first retraction of my general
killfile amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by that
effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574

74- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)" 18 Mar
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6

75- Lewis: "hasn't this fight been going on for like 8 years now? I
don't think anything is ever going to fix snit." 02 Mar 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/98ef8bca6b3a9b34

76- Lusotec (COLA): "You can't resist being a liar, it is
pathological, just like you can't resist trolling these forums day
after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, decade
after decade. A pathetic waste of life." Jun 20 2012

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b3d29c146414f077


77- Marious Barrier (COLA): "I must recognize that it is the first
time I see that kind of troll, once that start asking moderately
serious questions and since the first answer, gradually starts to
degenerate it by, in many failed attempts of being sarcastic,
inserting various indirect insults and calling all people ignorant and
unable to answer what he asks for." 14 Oct 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c6607ea64f436821

78- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the
same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would
be impossible to determine where the honesty starts and the usual
dishonesty ends. In my primary school, one of the teachers was very
keen on proverbs, and I recall her going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr
Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to
help him with his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining
if he's ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3

79- Marti Van Lin (COLA): "I paid enough attention to Snit IMHO. I
killfiled him the very first month I started lurking COLA. I find his
nitpicking and immature behavior extremely annoying. I am not going to
torture myself reading his bullshit. Snit is also a proven liar.
Remember his retarded exif debacle." 08 Jul 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d12622df3671359b

80- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it to
this post since its all about him and he managed to make me think
about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her
house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then
burned a DVD of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got
mad. He got mad because we quit making him the center of attention and
made that kid on the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the
tv and tried to block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole
life." 30 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b

81- McGarnagle: "And you know when Snit is endorsed by two of the
biggest nutjobs in AGA - RichL and El Kabong - you know he's not very
bright and a loon." 31 Oct 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/e60a33341bff1309

82- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone refutes
your 'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting your 'facts' is
easily done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it." 9 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32

83- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I see
you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with everyone.
You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a compliment!" 8 Jul
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd

84- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I
can only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens
to inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how
deranged you actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please
seek professional help."

"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot made
no threat to you before you went to the police. She made a promise.
Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out paranoiac view point,
Elizabot was suddenly "threatening" to you. In so much as you had to
take your kooky self down to your local police shop and blub on their
shoulders about how much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they
had to waste valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity.
I bet they have Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of your
profile, Snit." 2 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40

85- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious.
Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07

86- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they are
off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring and clearly
show that you are crying out for attention." 20 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80

87- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact that
your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you claimed to KF
him. Killfilling someone generally implies you're ignoring that
person, yet you piggyback onto virtually every reply to him here and
and check his website's validation status more often than most people
check their e-mail. These are not the actions of a mentally balanced
individual." 19 Jan 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b

88- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two
about social behavior." 16 May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4

89- Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit retard
circus!!! I actually dread seeing Snit reply to a thread because that
automatically means it's in the toilet." 8 Jul 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701

90- Mutley (AUK): "For the record ... I'll be done when I decide that
there's more shit on your face than there is on the sole of my shoe."
01 Nov 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b

91- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced
that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I
certainly am now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?"
29 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508

92- nessuno (COLA): Chris Ahlstrom: "Have you ever noticed that
threads involving Snit, [...] are a basically a waste of time?
nessuno: "Yep. I don't read them." 29 May 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2f997598f0e25f9d

93- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry sense
of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just a waste of
time, and you've done more than anybody to make this group a cesspool.
Then you revel in wallowing in your own filth." 14 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274

94- none of your buisiness (COLA): "I am sorry, but I am going to have
to send you to the bin. You're perpetrating the Snit circus by
responding to all of his assinine posts. He is only here for one
reason, to disrupt this group, & you are helping him, as well as
flatfish." 04 Jan 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a9b40ce46612fdc4

95- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling as
children in the back seat of the family car saying: Mom, 'snits'
touching me ... and you responding much as you do now ... I'm not
touching you, you're touching me! The problem is that by now you
should've grown out of that type of poke and complain interaction with
others. But, of course, you've haven't learned how to interact with
others in a more 'constructive' and mutually beneficial manner even
now." 03 Jul 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4

96- notlisted (COLA): "I actually like Apple. But I see you as an
asshole who spends an embarassing percentage of your life posting
derogatory comments about a computer operating system you obviously
detest, and insulting those who defend it in a newsgroup dedicated its
advocacy. That's almost the definition of being an asshole, and you
have half a dozen buddies who do the same thing. You excuse what you
do by pretending that you're merely pointing out problems in the hope
that the system will be improved, but that's an obvious lie whether
it's you saying it or one of your buds. You do it because you enjoy
the feeling it gives you, whatever that is." 07 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/90b57eaa796e8b14

97- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I
killfiled him?" 27 Nov 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257

98- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and
desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of
things." 2 Oct 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e

99- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending
Author, example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill this
Author' Click 'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your
choice. Then to see your work... Choose the Filter Menu again, Then
'Refilter Articles'... Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about
nothing. Enjoy!!!!!" 14 Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec

100- Owl (COLA): "You have interacted with me often enough to know
that I never initiate personal attacks. I generally respond in kind.
It is you who usually fall off the civility wagon first, with your
ironically condescending canned responses that do nothing for your
argument and generally shine a spotlight on the desperation that you
are so fearful of projecting." 5 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8debf93e05da4d26

Owl (COLA): "You are a complete idiot and extremely dishonest.
Consider yourself permanently plonked." 29 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ba7797c5108b3c10

101- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that matter, Snit,
for whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769

102- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> " 27 Jun 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/93afdfea4d4f491a

103- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone who
talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable" you appear
to be the least honest and honorable of anyone here." 22 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4

104- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with
Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c

105- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take your
argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77

106- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and
someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon he
has something useful to say." 20 Mar 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a31a47e26c5f5b7

107- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has
told me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence." 30
Jun 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cfd5de2006d42fdc

108- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot Glasser is invading this group with
his inane drivel, so he has to bear what people think about that
dishonest retard. And just for the record: You *are* a Glasser sock"
30 Jan 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f3166f6fda92641b

109- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu". 30 Mar 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3e88e9a86cb5483e

110- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions." 1 Nov
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277

111- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you
single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate
their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond in kind, etc.
ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for Macs and your
overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what convinces me that your
primary purpose for frequenting this and other groups is to troll."
07 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d

112- RichardK: "Just killfile him already." 20 Jun 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c9e7ded2e95a582

113- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You
trash people that are trying their level best to cope with a
horrendous situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what
is going on." 06 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b

114- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a
troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a
troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92

115- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you
quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the
shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk
of looking ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If
that's your goal, you're on the right track, and more power to you."
11 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d

116- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's thing
is twisting your words so he can win an argument against a straw man.
That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42

RonB: (COLA): "Why do you bother responding to Snit? He makes no
point, he simply gainsays whatever you say. Just another version of
Hadron's 'you're a liar' mantra, which is about all he can muster
nowadays." 27 May 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/279210dd877d7aa0

RonB (COLA): "Original subject line now killfiled. You can only talk
about the freaking clipboard for so many million freaking messages. As
I said, Snit has no common-sense, STOP mechanism. He's a mechanically
obsessive super crank and will go on forever. I'm not kidding about
this, he will *NEVER* *ever* stop." 6 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0df1e0164a8b586e

117- Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir boys." 14
Sep 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb

118- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and
how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you requesting
help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As
the old saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your
posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08

119- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless. You
must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much as you."
29 Dec 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d

120- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY-
of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news
group before. He has the ability to turn just about any person against
him in just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the
funny part with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN'T consider
himself be a troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him.
Obviously they are wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this
behaviour." 18 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2

121- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly,
even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more
sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?" 25 May 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370

122- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to
remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1

123- Sermo Malifer (COLA): Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue
*against* me..." Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll
who posts trash just to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1

124- spike1: "As for the original post, there's plenty of reason
thought and criteria. The reason is snit's here. The thought is
probably to show everyone here just how bad a troll snit is." 03 Dec
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c797d640e3b9fc12

125- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing
anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he
thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's
pretty smart. indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and
the iq tests and he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well
adjusted." 3 Mar 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7f9fa1cf90490298

126- Steel (COLA): "You may not like the game, but nevertheless, it's
just a game. You play a game yourself don't kid yourself." 14 Oct
2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/be1f49165984c350

127- Steve Carroll: "Snit isn't much more than a one trick pony and
not telling the whole story is one of his two main tricks. His other
main trick is to outright lie. Sprinkle in a bit of denial and you've
gone a long way towards defining his MO. The idea that Snit admits to
his errors is one of the biggest jokes on usenet." 28 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0cc84ece10726aac

128- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of
elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the
"Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun
to smell like elephant dung." 18 Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9fc11094133dfcdf

129- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility with me
for your rediculous argument regarding this." 26 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c8777d39c34e293

130- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost
all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'asses'
when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally superior snit
have fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule
to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get
him more happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)." 27 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3edd9ab69425a6c5

131- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him
then. A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be." 15 Aug 2006
(post not available except in reply)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b382420a696f140

132- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): "In other words, in another attempt to
troll, you made yourself look like a fool. Again". 28 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b2676d3540e09f38

133- thanatoid: "Is business/personal life/etc. SO bad that you had to
create Snit? I really thought higher of you until Snit came in here,
in fact I find your site very nice and wish there was a shop like
yours where I live (well, I /think/...) Or is Snit really just someone
whose HD you accidentally wiped? Either way, it seems to have created
a lot of, for lack of a better word, unpleasantness - just from
looking at today's headers." 02 Jul 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/1c43a7415c97bfa1

134- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my killbin, I
can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322

135- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're the one
lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically amount to "I'm
right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples someone points at to
demonstrate their claim, you blindly continue to insist that they
provide no evidence, or that the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse
still, you fall back on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to
portray the argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls
that inhabit CSMA, Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than
you are." 23 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d488596b57132124

136- Thufir: "You can "prove" that no one has disproved your "proof"?
Again, your assertion that no one has done so is even *less*
convincing than your claim that some PDF "proves" whatever point
you're trying to make precisely because I'm familiar with your MO.
That is, you're a dumb-ass who would claim that that something is
proved when it's not, and who would ignore counter-examples disproving
your contention. I don't know what this *ages old* thread is about,
but I know that you're full of shit." 21 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5114623055c01092

137-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see,
you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why
just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of
liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar." 13 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a

138- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor
sick fool can get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to hanging out
with and supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that
no-one likes him and those that pretend they do are just using him or
don't know him - but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some
compassion, eh? All these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy,
MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are all so alike. I pity each and every
one of them" 19 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/67f0f174110bfa0a

139- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you
could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here."
14 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6e3cfd9240ac4871

140- Timberwoof: "Plonk, Snit." 23 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c8df070c3e776c

141- tom_elam: "Killfile Steve C. and Snit" 07 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b50d0c973d21d995

142- TomB (COLA): "No Snit, you were flat out lying in an attempt to
make me look bad. Do you really have to sink to that level in order to
'be right'? If so, you're pathetic. And I don't say this because I
like to say it." 07 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43263f575ac40353

143- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one
of your Circus acts?" 20 Feb 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/25f0e481b605e71f

144- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was: Stop
polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive "writings". You
give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your goal you have
succeeded! That also goes for all that bullshit on your website" 11
Jun 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/03610d2080321d33

145- Tony(UK) (COLA): "Your email address in your headers just about
sums the Linux world up. Nothing to do with the OS, it is the *uckwits
involved in the whole arena and have posted before on this. If in
doubt, deride, insult and attack. Look inwardly carefully before
judging me." 10 Dec 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/533042ed18cefba3

146- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit.
Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict
their responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'.
Just what would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity?
Must be some kind of severe mental illness." 17 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/45197fbb46d491df

147- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are
nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to
define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend
the rules when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this
reason I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to play your game." 16
May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9b3ed1ee20e5220

148- White Spirit (COLA): "Snit deserves a good beat-down, Rodney King
style. I have had to plonk the worthless piece of Snit to prevent my
monitor being defiled with the presence of his idiotic, narcissistic
tripe." 24 Aug 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e3adbaae4bfb91d

149- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home more
than he's anywhere near a classroom".

150- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental
breakdown it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser. What a
f#cked up mess he is." 29 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/914d1e74855fb461

151- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're the
first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-) " 10 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/313c7368f6369c49

152- Woofbert: "*Plonk*" 14 Jun 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/436e6b5333d747e0

153- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of posts, to
prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like that to people
without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in the record. Ping
Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and give meaning to his
tawdry little life." 25 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538

154- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile. No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye". 11 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12f7c34f24d43624

155- Znu: "The Snit Circus has gotten particularly bad as of late.
When I set up my filters to kill all of Snit's posts, plus direct
replies to them (which is how I'm keeping things from now on), nearly
40% of the most recent 1000 articles in CSMA go out the window. ....
In all, something like 50% of the traffic in this group is now related
to Snit insanity. .... I killfile Edwin because I don't have a
patience to have discussions with someone who deliberately tries to
waste my time. But watching *other people* tie him knots can be
entertaining. The Snit-related posts are not like this. They are
endless repetitions of the exact same material and/or arguments dating
back *years* about who said what." 20 Apr 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9244dd79c682b2d6

156- Kari Lane (COLA): "You are pitiful. And a big pain in the ass.
Without you there might be change to get some real discussion going on
about Linux." 27 Aug 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5889b9cdf65c0b44

157- Roy Schestowitz (COLA): "Your neighbour troll has gotten no
attention, so he decided to start spamming our site, having trolled
the IRC channel. He has just posted 7 non-content self-promotion links
in a matter of 5 minute (as comments), The trolling and stalking
elsewhere have verged the pathological too. S*it Glasser -- see help.
You're clearly insane." [...] "The Prescott Lunattic has just pasted
his ENTIRE BLOG into my blog (as comments). If this is not an
UBERTROLL, I don't know what is. 31 Aug 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b66f067167d0d36b

157- Roy Schestowitz (COLA): "He is piggy-backing other people's sites
for attention. Frankly, he's the most disgusting form of troll and no
wonder even the Mac forums disowned him. He's a real-life troll." 31
Aug 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/543bc1b219961b16

158 - 7 (COLA): "You went off topic, run, back down, accepted you are
a HYPOCRITE, trolled, posted net abuse and underlined your illiterate
character, ignored the answer, made false accusation and trolled
again." 23 Nov 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/7a9240935bfd3ffc

159 - DFS (COLA): "About Snit? If so, I was fooled by him for a long
time, too, mostly because I didn't closely read his threads. I knew he
liked to split hairs and argue endlessly, so I usually glossed over
his threads. I didn't realize he would keep babbling "Support your
accusation" even in the face of direct evidence of his lies. Oh well.
I finally decided to killfile him again (my only entry)." 27 Mar 2012

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d5fff469502bc7ba

160 - Torre Starnes (COLA): DFS: "About Snit?" Torre Starnes: "Yep. I
admit I was sucked in. In the dumper....." 27 Mar 2012

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/81eabc1a75ff01d2

161 - clogwog (COLA): "This discussion, a very boring one, is leading
nowhere, please try to accept that cc has his arguments to disagree
with you." 31 May 2012

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8bc89787876f55a0

162 - Don Zeigler (COLA)

"Hopefully none of Snot's family, friends or business associates will
ever run across this thread archived on Google. It's the most shining
example yet of his obviously unbalanced mental state. He's told so
many whoppers he can't even keep his story straight." Jan 16 2009

https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab7014a465685945

163 - Gregory Shearman (COLA)

"Just killfile the troll, don't engage it." - Oct 13 2010

Snit

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On 4/13/13 11:09 AM, in article kkc71d$qcn$4...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/13 10:43 AM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{10.43.Seattle.2013},
>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>>> Usenet is a form of email.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>
> K00k, he's trolling you.

As are you of course.

>>> Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet;
>>> including HTML emails/posts.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>
> Kook, he's correct. Most mondern day email programs for windoze, you know,
> like YOU use,
> can handle USENet newsgroups just fine. Try Thunderbird, better than ms crap
> YOU use.

Many email clients do not handle Usenet. In fact, I use an older version of
MS Office's email client because neither their newer one nor my standard
email client handle Usenet. Sorta wish they did. Entourage is a horrible
Usenet client... but so be it.

>>> Mozilla Thunderbird, for example, displays HTML flawlessly;
>>> in fact, both Thunderbird and Firefox came from the Netscape browser.
>>
>> Irrelevant.
>
> Not at all irrelevent to the statement he made. See, he's a nutbag and you're
> a k00k.

As noted: both you and he are trolling me. But I shan't sink to your level.



--
"90% of computers use Microsoft's Windows ... Macs account for 9% of the
market while the open source system Linux accounts for 0.8%."
-- Linus Torvalds

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:23:25 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 11:07 AM, in article kkc6tn$qcn$3...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> Proof you can cut and paste noted.
>
> Snip proof you can cut-n-paste in that windose house of yours while
> tossing around rocks about text snippped.
>
>
>> Your insults and poor attitude speak poorly of you. Of note: I shall not
>> sink to your level no matter how hard you try to pull me down. You shall
>> try, no doubt - it is not like you are the first Usenet troll I have
>> encountered! Your actions are quite predictable.
>
>
> That you don't get it is still no surprise. Run along now and cry, little
> git.

Are you working to prove me correct or does it just come naturally for you?

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:24:29 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 11:05 AM, in article kkc6op$qcn$2...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Michael Moroney <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
>> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 4/12/13 10:22 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{22.22.Seattle.2013},
>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>>>> ?
>>>> Anything that can NOT handle HTML emails/posts, should be SHIT CANNED.
>>>>
>>>> You (Mr. "Snit") are reading an HTML post rught now;
>>>> and you've been replying to them, no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you think Usenet should be ( but isn't )
>>>> VASTLY different than emails; if so, I don't agree with you.
>>>>
>>>> <A> tags are NOT devil's spawn; it's MUCH more innocent than that.
>>>> Again: YOU decide what to read, don't let your sysop make that call.
>>>>
>>> Again: you are showing you do not really understand text-based Usenet
>>> discussions. Why do you keep harping on your ignorance about this. Let it
>>> go.
>>
>> I think it's much more than not understanding how text-based Usenet
>> is supposed to work. My personal opinion is that he has some form of
>> antisocial personality disorder, that is, he doesn't care about the wants
>> or needs of others.
>
> You're right on that. But little nit snit is just as whacky.
>
> Relf will whine wherever he goes. Snit the git just needs to wise up and
> stop firing at everything without READING it.

I am not sure sardine sandwiches are my favorite, but I do eat them from
time to time. What made you ask?
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Snit

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On 4/13/13 11:25 AM, in article kkc7u5$4ta$1...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> See. I can still smell a k00k a mile away.
>
> <Bows>
>
> Next?

Yes, the stalker who posted that has been following me around for 10 years
trolling me from group to group... except moderated groups where he either
is blocked or knows better than to even try.

He is one of the very few on Usenet I have decided is simply not worth my
time - not to mention he and his girlfriend tracked me down, contacted my
employer and family and neighbors, and otherwise just proved himself too
insane and dangerous even by the standards of the folks you see on Usenet.


--
"This doesn't mean our work is over; most GNU/Linux distros today contain
nonfree software, and there are more things that we expect a system to do."
-- Richard Stallman

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Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 3:05:58 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 11:26 AM, in article kkc81b$4ta$2...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/13 11:09 AM, in article kkc71d$qcn$4...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
>> Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/13 10:43 AM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{10.43.Seattle.2013},
>>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Usenet is a form of email.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> K00k, he's trolling you.
>>
>> As are you of course.
>>
>>>>> Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet;
>>>>> including HTML emails/posts.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> Kook, he's correct. Most mondern day email programs for windoze, you know,
>>> like YOU use,
>>> can handle USENet newsgroups just fine. Try Thunderbird, better than ms crap
>>> YOU use.
>>
>> Many[SLAP]
>
> Is this you not replying? Do you always talk in generalizations that you base
> SOLELY on your own personal experience?
>
> Then you too can be a kook like snit.
>
> Like i said, git, welcome to AUK.
>
>
>
Your trolling is boring enough where you are about at the point where you
will cease to get responses from me. If you really want the attention you
seem to you will have to improve your game. Your snipping and ignoring what
you are responding to, for example, simply is useless in terms of any
reasonable conversation... or even a not-so-reasonable one done just for the
heck of it. Not at all interesting.

Snit

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On 4/13/13 11:27 AM, in article kkc839$4ta$3...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

>>> You're right on that. But little nit snit is just as whacky.
>>>
>>> Relf will whine wherever he goes. Snit the git just needs to wise up and
>>> stop firing at everything without READING it.
>>
>> I am not sure[SLAP]
>
> THis is still you not replying to me, right, git?

If you are going to bring up your guesses as to the types of sandwiches I
prefer I see nothing wrong with my commenting on the topic as well. I do so
in a non-offensive way. Not sure why you are so bent out of shape. Whatever
the reason it does not speak well of you.


--
"There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major
reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to
be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred."
-- Linus Torvalds

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Steve Carroll

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On Apr 13, 12:43 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/13/13 11:25 AM, in article kkc7u5$4t...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
>
> Burnore" <gburn...@panix.com> wrote:
> > See. I can still smell a k00k a mile away.
>
> > <Bows>
>
> > Next?
>
> Yes, the stalker who posted that

Define what a "stalker" is as seen in a public usenet group that have
all labeled you a liar, troll or worse any time you feel you can. LOL!

> has been following me around

With the phrase "following me around" meaning: Posting to the same
public usenet newsgroups (mainly two of them... unless you crossposted
like you often did) as you do.

> He is one of the very few on Usenet I have decided is simply not worth my
> time

Translation: Anyone who points to realities you don't want to face
aren't "worth" your time.

(snip other unsupported accusations by Snit)

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:19:17 PM4/13/13
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Usenet is 12 terabytes per day, growing exponentially;
so, no, it's NOT the "pure text" that Snit dreams about.

Suppose it stopped growing exponentially, like a hockey stick graph; 
it'd take 44 thousand terabyte⋅hard⋅drives to store 10 years worth.
ISPs can't keep up, too expensive, so they've (mostly) dropped Usenet.

Notably, there's no way to do a full⋅text search.
Google Groups' search⋅engine cherry picks, it's hit and miss.

chrisv

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:22:15 PM4/13/13
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Gary Burnore wrote:

>In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

*plonk*

chrisv

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:28:59 PM4/13/13
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tlvp wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:26:16 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

*plonk*

chrisv

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:33:24 PM4/13/13
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% wrote:

> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote

*plonk*

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:42:29 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 1:19 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{13.19.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> ?
Google Groups has become garbage. But you still are showing off your
ignorance. Whatever. You are boring. Entertain me more or be ignored.
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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:50:11 PM4/13/13
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In article <cjfjm8prailatdhls...@4ax.com>,
chr...@nospam.invalid says...
Good grief. After all these years, chrisv is still plonking everyone in
sight. Amazing.

I miss his frog. He was much more fun--in all his guises.

--
WW(D)SD

You can discover what your enemy fears most by
observing the means he uses to frighten you. Eric Hoffer
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Toronto Tom Evans

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Apr 13, 2013, 5:13:31 PM4/13/13
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Gary Burnore wrote on 4/13/2013 :
> I'm an administrator, fairly well versed in USENET.
> (Check around)
>
OK, I checked around and this is what I
found out about you, Gary.

http://usenetkooks.blogspot.com/2010/05/gary-burnore.html

GUFFAW!


chrisv

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Apr 13, 2013, 5:26:26 PM4/13/13
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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:

>chr...@nospam.invalid says...
>>
>> Gary Burnore wrote:
>>
>> > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>> *plonk*
>
>Good grief. After all these years, chrisv is still plonking everyone in
>sight.

Everyone in sight, or everyone who feeds worthless, cross-posting
sociopaths, like Relf (or "Snit", who is just as bad, but not a
cross-poster)?

> Amazing.

Amazing how ignorant you are.

>I miss his frog. He was much more fun--in all his guises.

I also plonk ignorant assholes who attack me (or others) with idiocy
or lies.

*plonk*

GreyCloud

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Apr 13, 2013, 5:27:40 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/2013 2:50 PM, Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:
> In article <cjfjm8prailatdhls...@4ax.com>,
> chr...@nospam.invalid says...
>>
>> Gary Burnore wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013},
>>>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>> *plonk*
>
> Good grief. After all these years, chrisv is still plonking everyone in
> sight. Amazing.
>
> I miss his frog. He was much more fun--in all his guises.
>
You mean that this sicko, turdv, had other handles?

Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 13, 2013, 5:29:52 PM4/13/13
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In article <s2jjm8po7e758185c...@4ax.com>,
chr...@nospam.invalid says...
I was expecting the *plonk*. What I did not expect him to do is talk to
me before he did it. That was a first.

Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 13, 2013, 5:31:45 PM4/13/13
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In article <O9GdnSUmyp9OUPTM...@bresnan.com>,
mi...@cumulus.com says...
No. You failed to understand what I wrote. Perhaps if you reread it a
hundred times, you'll get a glimmer.

Tattoo Vampire

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Apr 13, 2013, 6:27:47 PM4/13/13
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Gary Burnore <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> You're the dip, git, who's posting to AUK.

Snit has finally, truly, found a place he can call home.
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Jeff-Relf.Me

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The similarity between Usenet and email is NOT superficial.

I work at home, via emails and VoIP phones.
Usenet is GREAT practice for that.

Mr. "Snit" won't learn HTML, that's his problem, not mine.

Ray Banana, the sysop of Eternal-Noobs,
is wrong to give away NNTP service, at great expense to himself,
in a misguided attempt to prevent HTML posts/emails.

I'm not complaining about these people, not "whining",
I'm just trying educate them a bit, if I can, when they get it wrong.
Unfortunately, Snit is damn⋅near ALWAYS wrong, as is Ray Banana.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·

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"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message news:Jeff-R...@Apr.13{15.44.Seattle.2013}...

Unfortunately, Snit is damn⋅near ALWAYS wrong, as is Ray Banana.
 
    Correction: The BananaBoi isn't *damn-near* always wrong. He's just plain
  always wrong, all the time!!!  He's a bully and a jackbooted thug who only
  has net nanny abilities at best although even this no-talent hack aspires
  to be a Nazi whom Adolf Hitler would have been proud of.
 
--
Sir Gregory
  
 

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 6:54:23 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 3:44 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{15.44.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> ?
> The similarity between Usenet and email is NOT superficial.

Now you say there is a "similarity", but before you said:
-----
Usenet is a form of email.
-----

Now you realize you were wrong. Good. Shows how you can learn. I am proud of
you.

> I work at home, via emails and VoIP phones.
> Usenet is GREAT practice for that.

It is sad you use Usenet to practice for your work emails and phone calls.

> Mr. "Snit" won't learn HTML, that's his problem, not mine.

Just to show how little you know and how absurd your insults are, I will let
you know I teach a web develop class at a college.

> Ray Banana, the sysop of Eternal-Noobs,
> is wrong to give away NNTP service, at great expense to himself,
> in a misguided attempt to prevent HTML posts/emails.

Your opinion on this is of no value or interest to me.

> I'm not complaining about these people, not "whining",
> I'm just trying educate them a bit, if I can, when they get it wrong.
> Unfortunately, Snit is damn・near ALWAYS wrong, as is Ray Banana.

As I said before, I shan't sink to your level. What is clear now is you will
not raise yourself to mine.


--
"I have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:17:01 PM4/13/13
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What is the name of Microsoft's latest email client for Office (OS⋅X) ?
I looked, but couldn't find it.

Whatever it is, you ( Mr. "Snit" ) would be
better off learning/using Mozilla Thunderbird.

Thunderbird is fully skinnable,
both the app and the emails/posts, HTML or not.

Nadegda

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:28:46 PM4/13/13
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Godwin! Ray Banana wins.

<snicker>

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:31:38 PM4/13/13
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I'm tempted to auto⋅morph/auto⋅reply to Mr. "chrisv".

His little "Forté Agent" thingy would explode.

Nadegda

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:29:43 PM4/13/13
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Wow. After plonking nearly everyone else in the universe, it took chrisv
until *now* to get around to plonking *persent*?

:)

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:32:31 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 4:17 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{16.17.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> ?
> What is the name of Microsoft's latest email client for Office (OS・X) ?
> I looked, but couldn't find it.

Wow. Not hard to find! <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products>

In case you need more: Outlook.

> Whatever it is, you ( Mr. "Snit" ) would be
> better off learning/using Mozilla Thunderbird.

And here you are making an assumption that I do now know how to use
Thunderbird. You make many poor assumptions.

Not that it matters, but for my email I do not use Outlook, Entourage, or
Thunderbird.

> Thunderbird is fully skinnable
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_%28computing%29> ,
> both the app and the emails/posts, HTML or not.

The feature you highlight is that it is skinnable. Wow.

Just wow.



--
"On desktops, Linux has had a hard time cracking the 1 per cent mark,
although some of the web analytics companies now put it at around 1.5 per
cent." -- Linus Torvalds

unruh

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:36:02 PM4/13/13
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On 2013-04-12, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
> Speaking of these stupid restrictions:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/47e7cc28a6b39348
>
> "Eternal-September" should be called "Eternal-Newbies".
>
> Amazingly, most don't realize how badly Ray Banana ( the SysOp )
> is insulting them. They're getting "played", big time.
>
> Eternal???September drops my posts merely because I use <A> tags.
>
> By default, apps munge my monospaced, PREformatted, indented "code";
> so my posts begin: ??????
>
> <PRE style = 'White-Space: PRE !important;
> Font-Size: Larger !important'> ??????

Amazingly some people do not know that netnews is NOT a place to use
html. It is a text only forum. If you do not like it, do not use it. It
is you that is trying to play the system.
And if you do not like Eternal September, use something else.

Checkmate

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:37:32 PM4/13/13
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Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:26:26 -0500, chrisv put forth the notion that:
*plonk*

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Checkmate

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Checkmate!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:33:24 -0500, chrisv put forth the notion that:


>
> % wrote:
>
> > "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote
>
> *plonk*

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq�

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"Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in
message news:MPG.2bd38c7...@news.alt.net...
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:33:24 -0500, chrisv put forth the notion that:
>>
>> % wrote:
>>
>> > "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote
>>
>> *plonk*
>
> *plonk*

Should I take % out of my Bozo bin for a few
hours just so I can *plonk* him again?

--
Sir Gregory


Snit

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On 4/13/13 4:36 PM, in article CZlat.519422$O02....@newsfe18.iad, "unruh"
Well stated.


--
"Maybe there is someone who considers it disgusting for a parrot to have sex
with a human. Or for a dolphin or tiger to have sex with a human. So what?
Others feel that all sex is disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

Nadegda

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Apr 13, 2013, 7:50:48 PM4/13/13
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:36:54 +0000, The Diddler Kook Masquerading As Ex-
FNVW (aka Gary Burnore) wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/13 5:07 AM, in article kkbhqd$jst$2...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
>> Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/12/13 7:51 PM, in article
>>>> Jeff-R...@Apr.12{19.51.Seattle.2013}, "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Mr. "Snit", <A> tags are NOT "a detriment to a text based medium".
>>>>>
>>>>> It is text, by the way, not video.
>>>>> If someone posts videos, and you don't like it, don't read those
>>>>> posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU decide what to read, not your NNTP server.
>>>>>
>>>> It has already been established you do not get the concept of a
>>>> Usenet text forum. Not sure why you keep harping on the fact.
>>>>
>>> 1. Jeff is a dope.
>>> 2. Jeff, in tis case, is right.
>>> C. That makes you dumber than a dope.
>>
>> Most Usenet forums are considered pure text...
>
> First, git, its not Usenet, its The USENet.

It seems to me that all of "usenet", "Usenet", and "USENET", are
generally accepted as valid.

> Second, they're not Usenet forums, they are newsgroups. Third, while
> many are text, the majority, unfortunately, are binary.

Got a problem with binaries froups, kooky? You do know that you don't
have to read, post to, or otherwise use them if you don't want to, right?
In fact these days you pretty much can't without specifically paying for
the privilege, unfortunately, *as well as* intentionally finding and
subscribing a binaries group.

>> If you want to use a web discussion group that is fine by my. But that
>> is not what Usenet is.
>>
> Ignorant git, you use User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 I
> use tin, a fucking UNIX TEXT READER.

Ooooh, and that of course makes you *inherently superior*. Because the
measure of a man is his choice of operating system and his stoicism in
putting up with an outmoded and difficult-to-use interface, and the
measure of a wuss is using Windows and an interface that makes it easy to
do what you want to do *without* poring through fifty thousand pages of
highly-technical operator's manual first.

You elitist kook. The real measure of a person is being intelligent, and
part of being intelligent is being efficient.

Sometimes, especially with a hugely repetitive task, efficient in turn
means automating the task, and automating efficiently means using tools
(such as a Unix-style shell and command line programs) designed to be
efficient and useful as callees of scripts. These may have a steep
learning curve and require poring through technical manuals for nearly
each new instance of use, but if that makes it take two hours to get a
script working that takes the place of ten hours of manual labor, that's
eight hours saved.

Other times, especially with a task whose speed bottleneck is the
thinking, reading, or judgment of a human operator, efficient means the
tool just gets out of the way and lets the operator as transparently as
possible put his own two mitts on the data and manipulate it, and that
means a GUI. There's a reason why almost nobody, even the most die-hard
commandline supremacist, uses a text-mode browser in preference to
something like Chrome or Firefox, kook. Even the masochistic lovers of
manually operating stuff designed to be user-friendly for values of
"user" consisting of *scripts* rather than people seem to draw the line
at not being able to see what they're doing while surfing. :)

Meanwhile, *intelligent* people use the right tool for the job. They use
the easy to use handheld Windows GUI screwdriver for odd jobs around the
house, and the big robot arm with rotary commandline Unix text-mode tool
that you have to be a programmer to wield effectively and need to go
through a twelve-item checklist each time to use safely is relegated to
the factory floor and used for jobs where they want 10,000 widgets
assembled in a hurry.

Oh, and *intelligent* people also don't judge people negatively for using
the appropriate class of tool for the appropriate class of circumstance.
If I want to have a computer automatically find, download, and assemble
ten thousand specified multipart binaries from across 300 newsgroups
while I sleep, then I'll use a complex-to-use, programmable, have-to-read-
from-a-manual-for-20-minutes-first-to-use-effectively specialized
newsreader (and a bunch of par/nzb files).

> You are a pissant, thinking you know something. I'm an administrator,

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You couldn't administer a kids' birthday
party (and nobody would want you to anyway, what with your particular
arrest record). Your recent attempt to overthrow the legitimate FNVWship
in AUK and then run your own 100% fake plastic imitation kook awards has
been an unmitigated disaster and a farce worth a huge number of laughs at
your expense. An "administrator". Ha!

> fairly well versed in USENET. (Check around) Lastly, you're a fucking
> kook and I'm the current F<SMACKAKOOK!>

You're the current Tinfoil Sombrero wearing would-be usurper of the
position of FNVW that's being laughed at and has racked up a good dozen
or so kook awards, and don't you forget it.

> Git.

Kook.

<snicker>

Jeff-Relf.Me

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GreyCloud, someone was "frogging" ( pseudo⋅forging )
chrisv's "From:" line; i.e. they were pretending to be him,
using a similar ( but not exact ) "From:" line.

Nadegda

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Relf *already* uses something else. He's just miffed that the people who
*do* use Eternal-September are deprived of the amazing awesome
gloriousness that consists of Jeff Relf's newsposts.

Of course, it hasn't apparently occurred to him yet that perhaps those
who use E-S do so because they regard that as a feature, not a bug.

<snicker>

Snit

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On 4/13/13 4:56 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{16.56.Seattle.2013},
Whå† p◊§† ∂¡∂ †h¡§ håppèπ ¡π? ‡ƒ ÿ◊ú çåπ §h◊w è√¡∂èπçè ¡† w◊úÏ∂ ßè
¡π†è®è§†¡πg. ∆§ ¡† ¡§, †h◊úgh, ¡† ¡§ ∫ú§† åπ èmp†ÿ åççú§å†¡◊π.

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any way, is likely to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable
to mistakes that can hurt them badly." -- Richard Stallman

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Yes, I saw "Outlook 2011" for Macs but, on Windows,
Outlook invokes "Windows Live Mail" to send emails and/or posts.
On the Mac, it's built⋅in, I guess.

I don't care what newsreader you ( Mr. "Snit" ) use;
usually, I avoid your "noisy" posts.

Seldom do you get your facts straight, I don't need that.

%

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"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message news:Jeff-R...@Apr.13{17.53.Seattle.2013}...
yay , you don't care

Snit

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On 4/13/13 5:30 PM, in article kkctba$rdt$1...@reader1.panix.com, "Gary
Burnore" <gbur...@panix.com> wrote:

> In alt.usenet.kooks Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/13 4:56 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{16.56.Seattle.2013},
>> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
>>
>>> ??
>>> GreyCloud, someone was "frogging" ( pseudo???forging )
>>> chrisv's "From:" line; i.e. they were pretending to be him,
>>> using a similar ( but not exact ) "From:" line.
>>>
>> Wh????? p???????? ???????? ???h???? h??pp???? ????? ????? ??????? ??????
>> ??h???w ?????????????????? ????? w?????????? ????
>> ??????????????????????g. ????? ????? ????, ???h?????gh, ????? ???? ??????????
>> ???? ??mp????? ??????????????????????.
>>
> This the same nit wit snit git who was all hot shit about text groups?
>
∏◊pè. Ÿ◊ú hå√è mè ç◊πƒú§è∂ w¡†h §◊mè◊πè èϧè.


--

"The UI is developed by experts, except it is shitty, but improvements are
bringing in more and more users, except that Linux is at 1% as usual."
- Brad cc Wiggins

Snit

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On 4/13/13 5:53 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{17.53.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> Yes, I saw "Outlook 2011" for Macs but, on Windows,
> Outlook invokes "Windows Live Mail" to send emails and/or posts.
> On the Mac, it's built⋅in, I guess.

∑å§ÿ †◊ Ïèå®π åß◊ú ¡†. GÏå∂ ‡ ç◊úÏ∂ hèÏp ÿ◊ú è∂úçå†è ÿ◊ú.

<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/outlook>

> I don't care what newsreader you ( Mr. "Snit" ) use;
> usually, I avoid your "noisy" posts.

Whå† ÿ◊ú çå®è åß◊ú† ◊® π◊† ¡§ ◊ƒ π◊ ç◊πçè®π †◊ mè.

> Seldom do you get your facts straight, I don't need that.

Ÿ◊ú® ¡π§úφ§ å®è åϧ◊ ◊ƒ π◊ ¡π†è®è§† †◊ mè. ‡π ƒåç†, ÿ◊ú å®è qú¡†è ß◊®¡πg.
‡πp®◊√è ÿ◊ú® †®◊ÏÏ¡πg ◊® ®å¡§è †hè Ïè√èÏ ◊ƒ ÿ◊ú® ç◊π√讧冡◊π †◊ å
®èå§◊πåßÏè ◊πè ◊® ®¡§k ßè¡πg ¡gπ◊®è∂.


--
Brad cc Wiggins:
-----
Clearly, I don't understand what I read.
-----

Snit

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On 4/13/13 5:55 PM, in article
3oWdnVXeI6gaY_TM...@giganews.com, "%" <per...@gmail.com>
wrote:
He claims I am generally wrong in the same post where he admits he was
ignorant about the program I pointed him to. Kinda funny. :)


--
"I started Linux as a desktop operating system. And it's the only area
where Linux hasn't completely taken over. That just annoys the hell out
of me." -- Linus Torvalds

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Dr. Unruh, "eternal-september" noobs can't see my posts.

I do NOT post via "eternal-september", of course.

"eternal-september", is popular only because it's "cost-free";
so long as it's free, "basement dwellers" endure the many agendas
the sysop ( namely, Ray Banana ) imposes on them.

When the topic presents itself, I point out how wrong it is
to operate a "cost-free" server for the sole purpose of censoring those,
like me, who use "<A> tags" ( i.e. HTML links, simple text, not videos ).

Now, if you think such censorship is a good thing,
where one man answers "the HTML question" for the masses...
well... then you're not as nearly smart as I once thought.

Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:18:13 PM4/13/13
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In article <kkcmeh$5ls$2...@reader1.panix.com>, gbur...@panix.com says...
>
> In alt.usenet.kooks Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries <rhonda...@earthling.net> wrote:
> > In article <s2jjm8po7e758185c...@4ax.com>,
> > chr...@nospam.invalid says...
> >>
> >> Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:
> >>
> >> >chr...@nospam.invalid says...
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary Burnore wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> *plonk*
> >> >
> >> >Good grief. After all these years, chrisv is still plonking everyone in
> >> >sight.
> >>
> >> Everyone in sight, or everyone who feeds worthless, cross-posting
> >> sociopaths, like Relf (or "Snit", who is just as bad, but not a
> >> cross-poster)?
> >>
> >> > Amazing.
> >>
> >> Amazing how ignorant you are.
> >>
> >> >I miss his frog. He was much more fun--in all his guises.
> >>
> >> I also plonk ignorant assholes who attack me (or others) with idiocy
> >> or lies.
> >>
> >> *plonk*
> >
> > I was expecting the *plonk*. What I did not expect him to do is talk to
> > me before he did it. That was a first.
> >
> What's REALLY funny, is that all he and snit would have had to do was to remove AUK.

That would not be in keeping with the finest cola tradition (whence
snit comes, although not in this thread).

> But Nooooooo.

Everyone needs a little self-imposed stress now and then.

--
WW(D)SD

You can discover what your enemy fears most by
observing the means he uses to frighten you. Eric Hoffer

Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:19:33 PM4/13/13
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In article <MPG.2bd38c1...@news.alt.net>,
Lunati...@The.Edge says...
>
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:26:26 -0500, chrisv put forth the notion that:
>
>
> >
> > Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:
> >
> > >chr...@nospam.invalid says...
> > >>
> > >> Gary Burnore wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> *plonk*
> > >
> > >Good grief. After all these years, chrisv is still plonking everyone in
> > >sight.
> >
> > Everyone in sight, or everyone who feeds worthless, cross-posting
> > sociopaths, like Relf (or "Snit", who is just as bad, but not a
> > cross-poster)?
> >
> > > Amazing.
> >
> > Amazing how ignorant you are.
> >
> > >I miss his frog. He was much more fun--in all his guises.
> >
> > I also plonk ignorant assholes who attack me (or others) with idiocy
> > or lies.
> >
> > *plonk*
>
> *plonk*

Back in aow-xp, there used to be regular *plonk* fests in...well, not
honor, exactly..of chrisv. It was fun. And funny.

Snit

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:21:34 PM4/13/13
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On 4/13/13 6:14 PM, in article Jeff-R...@Apr.13{18.14.Seattle.2013},
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:

> Dr. Unruh, "eternal-september" noobs can't see my posts.

D¡§åg®èè¡πg w¡†h ÿ◊ú® p◊¡π† åπ∂ π◊† §èè¡πg ¡† å®è π◊† †hè §åmè †h¡πg.

> I do NOT post via "eternal-september", of course.

∆®è ÿ◊ú åßÏè †◊ π◊† p◊§† ƒ®◊m åπÿ ◊†hè® §◊ú®çè, †◊◊?

> "eternal-september", is popular only because it's "cost-free";
> so long as it's free, "basement dwellers" endure the many agendas
> the sysop ( namely, Ray Banana ) imposes on them.

†h¡§ ¡§ ÿ◊ú® ◊p¡π¡◊π. ∏◊† ◊πè ◊ƒ åπÿ √åÏúè ¡π mÿ √¡èw.

> When the topic presents itself, I point out how wrong it is
> to operate a "cost-free" server for the sole purpose of censoring those,
> like me, who use "<A> tags" ( i.e. HTML links, simple text, not videos ).

†hè ¡∂èå †hå† †h¡§ ¡§ h¡§ §◊Ïè pú®p◊§è ¡§ åß§ú®∂.

> Now, if you think such censorship is a good thing,
> where one man answers "the HTML question" for the masses...
> well... then you're not as nearly smart as I once thought.

£èå®π å Ï¡††Ïè åß◊†ú Û§èπè† ßèƒ◊®è ÿ◊ú kèèp g◊¡πg ◊π. †håπk§!

Hawkeye-X

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Apr 13, 2013, 9:56:19 PM4/13/13
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:45:53 -0700, "%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message news:Jeff-R...@Apr.13{10.43.Seattle.2013}...
>
>Usenet is a form of email.
>
>Most anything that can handle emails, also handles Usenet;
>including HTML emails/posts.
>
>Mozilla Thunderbird, for example, displays HTML flawlessly;
>in fact, both Thunderbird and Firefox came from the Netscape browser.is this supposed to be news

Checkmate

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Checkmate!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 18:09:40 -0700, Snit put forth the notion that:


>
> On 4/13/13 5:55 PM, in article
> 3oWdnVXeI6gaY_TM...@giganews.com, "%" <per...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message
> >> news:Jeff-R...@Apr.13{17.53.Seattle.2013}...
> >>
> >> Yes, I saw "Outlook 2011" for Macs but, on Windows,
> >> Outlook invokes "Windows Live Mail" to send emails and/or posts.
> >> On the Mac, it's built $B!& (Bin, I guess.
> >>
> >> I don't care what newsreader you ( Mr. "Snit" ) use;
> >> usually, I avoid your "noisy" posts.
> >>
> >> Seldom do you get your facts straight, I don't need that.
> >>
> >>
> >> yay , you don't care
> >
> He claims I am generally wrong in the same post where he admits he was
> ignorant about the program I pointed him to. Kinda funny. :)

*plahhhhhnnnk*

Nadegda

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Nomination accepted. That'll make several months in a row for that kook.
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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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In article <053km8di6dkcqupss...@4ax.com>,
tes...@gmail.con says...
Did I miss something? When did we get a Technicolor Yawn Award?

It's not an auk award, and I don't see it listed with the AFA-B awards
either.

Nadegda

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Apr 13, 2013, 10:41:40 PM4/13/13
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On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:41:08 +0000, The Diddler Kook Masquerading As Ex-
FNVW (aka Gary Burnore) wrote:

> You're K<SMACKAKOOK!>

The nomination has been accepted by the Tetrarchy. There's nothing you
can do about it but cry.

This space provided for you to foam out a river:
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If that's not enough room to hold the frothy, kooky butthurt reply that's
bubbling up in you now and preparing to force its way out of your
fingertips, feel free to request more. It'll cost you only a 3-additional-
laughs-at-your-expense surcharge, kook.

<snicker>
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