Apple MacBookPro 17" vs Dell Insprion E1710
Jim Polaski
http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
Have at it boys.
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Sandman
Jim Polaski <jpol...@NOSPMync.net> wrote:
> From system shootouts.
>
> http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
>
> The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
>
> Have at it boys.
The Dell really doesn't stand a chance. It's unfair to compare it to a
Mac, really.
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Snit
jpolaski-28F299...@netnews.comcast.net on 4/25/06 7:41 AM:
> From system shootouts.
>
> http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
>
> The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
>
> Have at it boys.
They count the Dell's native resolution as being better - but it completely
depends on what resolution a user would want to use.
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Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> "Jim Polaski" <jpol...@NOSPMync.net> stated in post
> jpolaski-28F299...@netnews.comcast.net on 4/25/06 7:41 AM:
>
> > From system shootouts.
> >
> > http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
> >
> > The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
> >
> > Have at it boys.
>
> They count the Dell's native resolution as being better - but it completely
> depends on what resolution a user would want to use.
Mr Obvious strikes again. :P
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Snit
mr-CEC1E5.17...@individual.net on 4/25/06 8:52 AM:
The fact you would troll me was obvious. So why do you do it? In any case,
before you hijack this thread, too, my point was that with LCDs they do not
look as good in non-native resolutions. Many people *mistakenly* believe
that a higher resolution (and more Mpx) is always better. That is not the
case - just more expensive. You should get an LCD that looks good at the
resolution you will most often use it at.
Sure, many folks in CSMA likely knew that. And others may not have. Heck,
I can make guesses as to some of the technological incompetents in CSMA who
likely did not know this, but they would just deny it anyway. For a good
example, look to the technologically incompetent regular poster who claimed
that the tilde in a path means "the hard drive only".
Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> >> They count the Dell's native resolution as being better - but it completely
> >> depends on what resolution a user would want to use.
> >
> > Mr Obvious strikes again. :P
>
> The fact you would troll me was obvious. So why do you do it? In any case,
> before you hijack this thread, too, my point was that with LCDs they do not
> look as good in non-native resolutions.
Is that so, Mr Obvious? :-D
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Snit
>> look as good in non-native resolutions. Many people *mistakenly* believe
>> that a higher resolution (and more Mpx) is always better. That is not the
>> case - just more expensive. You should get an LCD that looks good at the
>> resolution you will most often use it at.
>>
>> Sure, many folks in CSMA likely knew that. And others may not have. Heck, I
>> can make guesses as to some of the technological incompetents in CSMA who
>> likely did not know this, but they would just deny it anyway. For a good
>> example, look to the technologically incompetent regular poster who claimed
>> that the tilde in a path means "the hard drive only".
>
> Is that so,
Yes.
> Mr Obvious? :-D
Your .sig fits you, but should be on its own line and be properly formatted.
Do you need to know how?
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Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> > Is that so,
>
> Yes.
>
> > Mr Obvious? :-D
>
> Your .sig fits you, but should be on its own line and be properly formatted.
> Do you need to know how?
Haha! That was lame! My god you're grabbing for breadcrumbs these
days. :-D
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Snit
Your posts have no meat. You are just following me around trying to hijack
this thread with your trolling.
Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> >>> Is that so,
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >>> Mr Obvious? :-D
> >>
> >> Your .sig fits you, but should be on its own line and be properly
> >> formatted.
> >> Do you need to know how?
> >
> > Haha! That was lame! My god you're grabbing for breadcrumbs these
> > days. :-D
> >
> Your posts have no meat. You are just following me around trying to hijack
> this thread with your trolling.
Actually, I was joking with you - but since you're a troll with an
agenda, you saw it as an opportunity to rev up your circus again. It's
not like it's the first time. :)
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Jim Lee Jr.
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
Jealous?
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As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care
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Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
> mr-CEC1E5.17...@individual.net on 4/25/06 8:52 AM:
> > Mr Obvious strikes again. :P
>
> The fact you would troll me was obvious. So why do you do it? In any case,
> before you hijack this thread, too, my point was that with LCDs they do not
> look as good in non-native resolutions. Many people *mistakenly* believe
> that a higher resolution (and more Mpx) is always better. That is not the
> case - just more expensive. You should get an LCD that looks good at the
> resolution you will most often use it at.
Sandman wants to be your friend, Snit.
Jim Polaski
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
garbage?
Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead and stop this crap. Try.
How about it?
STravis
Jim Polaski wrote:
> Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
> garbage?
It is pretty amazing isn't it? Of course, at this point, no side is
willing to even try and be reasonable, and if one isn't careful, one
can quickly get sucked into the black hole that is their pissing match.
Elizabot v2.0.3
> Jim Polaski wrote:
>
>> Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
>> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
>> garbage?
>
> It is pretty amazing isn't it? Of course, at this point, no side is
> willing to even try and be reasonable, and if one isn't careful, one
> can quickly get sucked into the black hole that is their pissing match.
I've removed myself from it.
Steve Carroll
"Elizabot v2.0.3" <Eliz...@NsOpSyPmAaMc.com> wrote:
You can check out but you can never leave;)
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Snit
I can accept that your trolling was merely a joke.
Snit
peejster01-49524...@netnews.asp.att.net on 4/25/06 10:55 AM:
> In article <C07394D1.4CC48%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
>
>> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
>> mr-CEC1E5.17...@individual.net on 4/25/06 8:52 AM:
>
>>> Mr Obvious strikes again. :P
>>
>> The fact you would troll me was obvious. So why do you do it? In any case,
>> before you hijack this thread, too, my point was that with LCDs they do not
>> look as good in non-native resolutions. Many people *mistakenly* believe
>> that a higher resolution (and more Mpx) is always better. That is not the
>> case - just more expensive. You should get an LCD that looks good at the
>> resolution you will most often use it at.
>
> Sandman wants to be your friend, Snit.
Who doesn't?
Snit
1145993116.2...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com on 4/25/06 12:25 PM:
>
> Jim Polaski wrote:
>
>> Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
>> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
>> garbage?
>
> It is pretty amazing isn't it? Of course, at this point, no side is
> willing to even try and be reasonable, and if one isn't careful, one
> can quickly get sucked into the black hole that is their pissing match.
I am reasonable in my comments. The only thing I do that one could call
"unreasonable" is to respond to the trolls that nip at my heels... and I
have stopped responding to some of the worst offenders.
>
>> Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead and stop this crap. Try.
>> How about it?
NashtOn
Too late. You're already synonymous with the Snit Circus (TM).
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Steve Carroll
NashtOn <na...@na.ca> wrote:
Nic made a funny!
GreyCloud
> In article <Ugy3g.65894$VV4.1...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
> NashtOn <na...@na.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Elizabot v2.0.3 wrote:
>>
>>>STravis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
>>>>>turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
>>>>>garbage?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is pretty amazing isn't it? Of course, at this point, no side is
>>>>willing to even try and be reasonable, and if one isn't careful, one
>>>>can quickly get sucked into the black hole that is their pissing match.
>>>
>>>
>>>I've removed myself from it.
>>
>>Too late. You're already synonymous with the Snit Circus (TM).
>
>
> Nic made a funny!
>
More like the Snot Circus©, brought to you by Kleenex©.
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Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> > Actually, I was joking with you - but since you're a troll with an
> > agenda, you saw it as an opportunity to rev up your circus again. It's
> > not like it's the first time. :)
>
> I can accept that your trolling was merely a joke.
Aaaawww, come on - was it a joke or was it "trolling"? Remember,
you're the troll, and I am the one making fun of you. It should be
pretty easy to figure it out :-D
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Sandman
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> > It is pretty amazing isn't it? Of course, at this point, no side is
> > willing to even try and be reasonable, and if one isn't careful, one
> > can quickly get sucked into the black hole that is their pissing match.
>
> I am reasonable in my comments.
Haha! Good one!
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Mitch
Polaski <jpol...@NOSPMync.net> wrote:
> From system shootouts.
>
> http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
>
> The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
Fascinating differences, presented very nicely. Lots of factors
considered, mostly clear comparisons.
The size difference is huge, the weight difference is pretty big, too.
Why didn't he address the case materials? That means a lot to me.
I wish someone would tell me why Sonic MusicMatch is better than
iTunes, or why the nVidia card is better than the ATI.
The backup utility isn't really an advantage, because you don't do it
the same way on a Mac, and it's easier to do backups in the first
place.
The Office applications are significant, but mostly for new users or
user changing operating systems.
Elizabot v2.0.3
Well, if you said it, then it must be true. ;-) <--- SARCASM ALERT
Thank you for your valuable input. And I will dare to speak on behalf of
everyone in CSMA on this. (And the peeps who do not agree with me can
either shut up or respond.)
P.S. How's the ole swimming pool this time of year??
Lefty Bigfoot
(in article <250420062205011609%mi...@hawaii.rr>):
> In article <jpolaski-28F299...@netnews.comcast.net>, Jim
> Polaski <jpol...@NOSPMync.net> wrote:
>
>> From system shootouts.
>>
>> http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/laptop/2006/0424_lt2800.html
>>
>> The Mac wins by 1.1 lbs!
>
> Fascinating differences, presented very nicely. Lots of factors
> considered, mostly clear comparisons.
Except they should have compared with the M90, aimed at a
similar demographic. Inspiron (note the typo on the link above)
is crap for the el cheapo home user crowd.
> The size difference is huge, the weight difference is pretty big, too.
.6" in thickness is a fair amount, but the weight is what really
matters, unless you're trying to shove the case up someone's ass
sideways.
> Why didn't he address the case materials? That means a lot to me.
That is an important issue, as well as overall construction
quality not related to the material, ergonomics, port layout,
the power adapter magnetic thingy, etc.
> I wish someone would tell me why Sonic MusicMatch is better than
> iTunes, or why the nVidia card is better than the ATI.
Those are called opinions. :-)
> The Office applications are significant, but mostly for new users or
> user changing operating systems.
WordPerfect 12 is not significant. It's only on there because
Dell can install for about 50 cents a copy. It's been basically
nonexistent for over a decade. OpenOffice is a better choice.
The typical windows user will actually spring another $150 or so
for the real office.
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K E
> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
> garbage?
He's a troll. Are you new here?
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Snit
u1145...@aknode.invalid on 4/26/06 10:10 PM:
>> Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
>> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
>> garbage?
>
> He's a troll. Are you new here?
So you have objective criteria for determining someone is a troll?
Steve Carroll
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:
> "K E" <tube...@comcast-dot-net.no-spam.invalid> stated in post
> u1145...@aknode.invalid on 4/26/06 10:10 PM:
>
> >> Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in seems like it
> >> turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things and
> >> garbage?
> >
> > He's a troll. Are you new here?
>
> So you have objective criteria for determining someone is a troll?
LOL! Snit thinks that it must still be proven he is a troll;)
Mitch
Bigfoot <nu...@busyness.info> wrote:
> > Fascinating differences, presented very nicely. Lots of factors
> > considered, mostly clear comparisons.
>
> Except they should have compared with the M90, aimed at a
> similar demographic. Inspiron (note the typo on the link above)
> is crap for the el cheapo home user crowd.
> > The size difference is huge, the weight difference is pretty big, too.
>
> .6" in thickness is a fair amount, but the weight is what really
> matters, unless you're trying to shove the case up someone's ass
> sideways.
Well, it isn't a COMMON task, but when you need to do it, it's gonna
make the job so much easier.
> > Why didn't he address the case materials? That means a lot to me.
>
> That is an important issue, as well as overall construction
> quality not related to the material, ergonomics, port layout,
> the power adapter magnetic thingy, etc.
I know much of the case engineering is just too technical for casual
comparison; too bad, since it matters in several ways.
I am really glad someone did something about the power plug. That's one
of those small things that really deserves those small tidbits in pres
articles.
> > I wish someone would tell me why Sonic MusicMatch is better than
> > iTunes, or why the nVidia card is better than the ATI.
>
> Those are called opinions. :-)
Maybe, but they must be based on something.
If someone can't specify why they have an opinion, it isn't worth
listening to.
I find iTunes' tagging and sorting and playlist options fantastic, and
it can do so much more than what people typically know of.
I'm assuming someone would quantify the difference in video cards, or
that support for a specific technology would tip the scales a bit.
> > The Office applications are significant, but mostly for new users or
> > user changing operating systems.
>
> WordPerfect 12 is not significant. It's only on there because
> Dell can install for about 50 cents a copy. It's been basically
> nonexistent for over a decade.
I didn't mean as a single product, but because it was a difference from
the Mac package. I never much got into WordPerfect, even when it was
free.