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zara

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Dec 22, 2005, 4:31:29 PM12/22/05
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Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.


k96...@aol.com

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Dec 22, 2005, 6:28:46 PM12/22/05
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zara wrote:
> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.

Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
How ironic!

Ken

Jim Polaski

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Dec 22, 2005, 6:36:05 PM12/22/05
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In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.

Just because something doesn't have the largest market share, doesn't
mean it's not the best or better product.

Too bad you look so pitifully stupid trying to claim otherwise.

--
Regards,
JP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while
expecting that he will get nothing in return!"

zara

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Dec 22, 2005, 8:08:31 PM12/22/05
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<k96...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.


Jeff B

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Dec 22, 2005, 8:45:28 PM12/22/05
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In article <N3Iqf.22739$aS5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
in and bought the farm. James Bond should
be rapelling from a helicopter onto your rooftop
any minute now to bitch slap ya.

And you'll love it.

Jeff B

MuahMan

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Dec 22, 2005, 10:52:55 PM12/22/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <N3Iqf.22739$aS5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> <k96...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135294126.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > zara wrote:
>> >> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
>> >
>> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
>> > How ironic!
>>
>> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
>
> Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
> in and bought the farm.

Wrong. BMW has the 2nd worst major repair record of any car manufacturer
besides Hyundia.
Consumer Reports 2005

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C Lund

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:54:38 AM12/23/05
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In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.

You're just another wintroll who's too dumb to know the difference
between quantity and quality.

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C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

llort

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:58:43 AM12/23/05
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On 22 Dec 2005 20:15:58 -0800, vsha...@comcast.net wrote:


>
>So, if you want to use the analogy that OSX is like a BMW, you would
>have to conclude that OSX is overpriced, non-intuitive, and just
>annoying.


Sounds about right. :)

zara

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Dec 23, 2005, 8:58:28 AM12/23/05
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"C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
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> In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
>
> You're just another wintroll who's too dumb to know the difference
> between quantity and quality.

Duh- uh - Barf.


zara

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Dec 23, 2005, 9:12:39 AM12/23/05
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"Jim Polaski" <jpol...@NOSPMync.net> wrote in message
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> In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
>
> Just because something doesn't have the largest market share, doesn't
> mean it's not the best or better product.
>
> Too bad you look so pitifully stupid trying to claim otherwise.


SLURP - GULP.


hee...@yahoo.com

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Dec 23, 2005, 11:04:27 AM12/23/05
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Consumers just want something they can use
and which doesn't look like crap.

It's similar with glasses: most people who need them
are happy with good-enough $100 frames and will not go for
the stylish $300 frames.

But a few, like me, will. Now, should I really have bought them?
In retrospect, I do thinkI would have been better served by
spending the $200 difference on a jewelry-making course,
so that one day I could make my own frames, perfectly
suited to my face. But then, I'm a Linux user. I'm all about
DIY (do it yourself).

zara

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:20:18 PM12/23/05
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<hee...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What is the story with Linux? I'm told that it is a superior OS. But many
here bash it. Can you fill me in?


Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:37:01 PM12/23/05
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"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> stated in post
KiWqf.6349$wq....@bignews7.bellsouth.net on 12/23/05 10:20 AM:

Bash works on Linux and OS X but not XP, at least not by default.


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Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:49:59 PM12/23/05
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In article <KiWqf.6349$wq....@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

> > But a few, like me, will. Now, should I really have bought them?
> > In retrospect, I do thinkI would have been better served by
> > spending the $200 difference on a jewelry-making course,
> > so that one day I could make my own frames, perfectly
> > suited to my face. But then, I'm a Linux user. I'm all about
> > DIY (do it yourself).
>
>
> What is the story with Linux? I'm told that it is a superior OS. But many
> here bash it. Can you fill me in?

My, what a big, shiny lure you have there, zara. And
is that corn I smell on the hook? Mmmmm mmmm,
tasty and oh so compelling.

Must...not...bite...

Oh, what the hell.

Maccies love quality, they buy Macs.

WinTrolls love cheap hardware, they buy PC's.

Tuxers are truly cheap bastards. It's not enough that
they must have cheap hardware, they want the software
to be free! They are bargain basement purists. Any
political rants they spew about open standards and the
freedom to create are just camouflage for their true
pursuit - a PC to rip music and movies with for the cost
of less than a good night out on the town. The less money
they spend on the PC and software, the more money they
have to spend on Coors. Oh, and did I mention they
have no taste?

Have you seen their latest holy grail? A Linux laptop
that costs $100. Yeah, sure, it's for 3rd world children.
Those tuxers are extraordinary propogandists. Almost
makes ya feel sorry for Bill Gates.

Linux is just another Unix wannabe. If you want a truly
superior OS, get IRIX. It's not dead yet, it just smells
that way.

Jeff B

Timberwoof

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:50:39 PM12/23/05
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In article <BFD183CD.3F9D9%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> stated in post
> KiWqf.6349$wq....@bignews7.bellsouth.net on 12/23/05 10:20 AM:
>
> >
> > <hee...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1135353867.0...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Consumers just want something they can use
> >> and which doesn't look like crap.
> >>
> >> It's similar with glasses: most people who need them
> >> are happy with good-enough $100 frames and will not go for
> >> the stylish $300 frames.
> >>
> >> But a few, like me, will. Now, should I really have bought them?
> >> In retrospect, I do thinkI would have been better served by
> >> spending the $200 difference on a jewelry-making course,
> >> so that one day I could make my own frames, perfectly
> >> suited to my face. But then, I'm a Linux user. I'm all about
> >> DIY (do it yourself).
> >
> >
> > What is the story with Linux? I'm told that it is a superior OS. But many
> > here bash it. Can you fill me in?
>
> Bash works on Linux and OS X but not XP, at least not by default.

And that is the only answer Zara deserves for that question.

--
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MuahMan

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:57:21 PM12/23/05
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"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Every personal attack is another win! People only go there when they are
beaten..... Probably why Lund has been nothing but personal attacks for 5
years.

>
>


MuahMan

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Dec 23, 2005, 12:58:39 PM12/23/05
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"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Linux is OSX that actually works and has a presence in IT.

>
>


Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:02:17 PM12/23/05
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"Timberwoof" <timbe...@stimpberawoofm.com> stated in post
timberwoof-7206C...@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net on 12/23/05 10:50
AM:

I wonder if he will get the joke. :)


--
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k96...@aol.com

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:10:57 PM12/23/05
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>WinTrolls love cheap hardware, they buy PC's.

Of course I have always compared Wintrolls to sheep....
Follow the herd....
Bwahhhhh, bwahhhhhh......


Ken

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:21:16 PM12/23/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> stated in post
jefftedbarber-2D8...@news.verizon.net on 12/23/05 10:49 AM:

For most beer drinkers, drinking Coors is synonymous with poor taste. :)


>
> Have you seen their latest holy grail? A Linux laptop
> that costs $100. Yeah, sure, it's for 3rd world children.
> Those tuxers are extraordinary propogandists. Almost
> makes ya feel sorry for Bill Gates.
>
> Linux is just another Unix wannabe. If you want a truly
> superior OS, get IRIX. It's not dead yet, it just smells
> that way.

Linux certainly has its place. Can't say I agree with your post but it is
funny. :)


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MuahMan

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:32:41 PM12/23/05
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<k96...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >WinTrolls love cheap hardware, they buy PC's.
>
> Of course I have always slept with sheep....

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:37:08 PM12/23/05
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In article <BFD18E2C.3F9F3%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> For most beer drinkers, drinking Coors is synonymous with poor taste. :)
> >
> > Have you seen their latest holy grail? A Linux laptop
> > that costs $100. Yeah, sure, it's for 3rd world children.
> > Those tuxers are extraordinary propogandists. Almost
> > makes ya feel sorry for Bill Gates.
> >
> > Linux is just another Unix wannabe. If you want a truly
> > superior OS, get IRIX. It's not dead yet, it just smells
> > that way.
>
> Linux certainly has its place. Can't say I agree with your post but it is
> funny. :)

Snit, for many years now my posts in CSMA have been
99% nonsense and 1% seriousness. I throw in the
1% to keep people guessing. A tiny little nugget of truth
snuggled inside a big heaping pile of shit.

It's not even necessary to respond to any of my posts.
I just like to drive-by the WinTrolls, spray them with lead,
and hit the gas hell-bent for the horizon looking for
more prey.

Unfortunately, sometimes they want to return fire and
engage in debate. Silly WinTrolls.

I wish I had more time for Usenet, but I have so little
free time, except during downtimes like the Holidays.
And right now I've got a 4-day weekend, woo hooooo!

Jeff B

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:39:28 PM12/23/05
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In article <S7idnYm2J8U...@adelphia.com>,
"MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
> >> > How ironic!
> >>
> >> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
> >
> > Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
> > in and bought the farm.
>
> Wrong. BMW has the 2nd worst major repair record of any car manufacturer
> besides Hyundia.
> Consumer Reports 2005

The same Consumer Reports that writes about
OS X viruses? I ask for informational purposes only.

Jeff B

llort

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:43:02 PM12/23/05
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:49:59 GMT, Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <KiWqf.6349$wq....@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> > But a few, like me, will. Now, should I really have bought them?
>> > In retrospect, I do thinkI would have been better served by
>> > spending the $200 difference on a jewelry-making course,
>> > so that one day I could make my own frames, perfectly
>> > suited to my face. But then, I'm a Linux user. I'm all about
>> > DIY (do it yourself).
>>
>>
>> What is the story with Linux? I'm told that it is a superior OS. But many
>> here bash it. Can you fill me in?
>
>My, what a big, shiny lure you have there, zara. And
>is that corn I smell on the hook? Mmmmm mmmm,
>tasty and oh so compelling.
>
>Must...not...bite...
>
>Oh, what the hell.
>
>Maccies love quality, they buy Macs.
>

If Mac users really loved quality they would be building their own
high end machines and not accepting the few limited choices that Steve
Jobs has provided them.

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:43:20 PM12/23/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> stated in post
jefftedbarber-CAC...@news.verizon.net on 12/23/05 11:37 AM:

As long as you are open and honest with what you are doing I have no
argument with you.

--
"a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When
we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a
court order before we do so." - George W. Bush April 20, 2004

MuahMan

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Dec 23, 2005, 1:59:21 PM12/23/05
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"llort" <ll...@anon.com> wrote in message
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Come on!!! How am I gonna get better spec than the Hitachi 4200 rpm drive
that came in Mac Mini or the unbeatable quality of the 5200rpm Matsushita
drive in my ImacG5. LOL


Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 2:08:51 PM12/23/05
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"llort" <ll...@anon.com> stated in post
r5hoq11ui7qsalecp...@4ax.com on 12/23/05 11:43 AM:

I am quite happy with my Mac. If you have a hobby of building computers
Apple does not serve that market well.


--
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Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 2:26:19 PM12/23/05
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In article <r5hoq11ui7qsalecp...@4ax.com>,
llort <ll...@anon.com> wrote:

> >Maccies love quality, they buy Macs.
> >
>
>
>
> If Mac users really loved quality they would be building their own
> high end machines and not accepting the few limited choices that Steve
> Jobs has provided them.

Maccies hate hassles and sweat. Maccies love Jobs.

No matter what Jobs offers in January, I'm gonna buy it.
And I'm only kidding a little bit. If it's the new laptops, then
one of them has my name on it.

I'm gonna call it Vera.

Jeff B

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 2:39:09 PM12/23/05
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In article <BFD19358.3F9F8%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

My mission statement is to protect the other Mac newsgroups
by luring the WinTrolls into CSMA. CSMA'ers are the Rangers
of Mac Middle Earth. We patrol the valleys and mountains and
wastelands, way-laying WinTrolls bent on vandalizing the
peaceful Mac newsgroups.

Without our valiant efforts, comp.sys.mac.programmer would
be a smoldering ruin. Our toils and sweat receive no thanks.
None are needed. We are happy knowing that other Maccies
are safe in their beds at night, sleeping the sleep of the Just
Plain Satisified. If they even hear rumors of Windows, it's just
a passing bad dream, or an easily forgotten moment of insanity
with the PC at work.

Windows drools! Macs rulez!

Jeff B

Lars Träger

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Dec 23, 2005, 3:00:37 PM12/23/05
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zara <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

> Duh- uh - Barf.

Cleanup on aisle CSMA - zara posted again!
--
Lars T.

Lars Träger

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Dec 23, 2005, 3:00:37 PM12/23/05
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Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No matter what Jobs offers in January, I'm gonna buy it.
> And I'm only kidding a little bit. If it's the new laptops, then
> one of them has my name on it.
>
> I'm gonna call it Vera.

Your name is Vera?
--
Lars T.

Lars Träger

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Dec 23, 2005, 3:00:37 PM12/23/05
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MuahMan <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Look, a speechless sheep.
--
Lars T.

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 3:19:11 PM12/23/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> stated in post
jefftedbarber-90F...@news.verizon.net on 12/23/05 12:39 PM:

>>> Snit, for many years now my posts in CSMA have been
>>> 99% nonsense and 1% seriousness. I throw in the
>>> 1% to keep people guessing. A tiny little nugget of truth
>>> snuggled inside a big heaping pile of shit.

<SNIP />

>> As long as you are open and honest with what you are doing I have no argument
>> with you.
>>
> My mission statement is to protect the other Mac newsgroups by luring the
> WinTrolls into CSMA.

I do some of that but also happily rip to peaces those that come to CSMA
just to be disruptive. At this point I have several of the trolls so caught
up in their pretzel logic and piles of lies that all they can do is snip all
but the first few words of posts and then spew their BS. Sadly their
methods become boring pretty quick, but I can get them all riled up again
just by mentioning their lies. Here, watch the responds to this post when I
mention the lies of several trolls without even mentioning their names:

One keeps telling me that it is impossible for guilty people to ever fail to
be convicted. Worse than tat, when I made an argument about someone
breaking the law he insisted on ignoring my strong support and instead
focused on the fact that strong support is not absolute proof, and then
concluded a lack of such proof is a full refutation. He really seems to
believe such idiocy.

Another troll jumped into a conversation about auto-installed widgets were I
commented in how, at the time, Apple's site said they could not be removed.
The troll said they could be removed by deleting them from the
/Library/Widgets folder. He was corrected and told that the concern was
with the Apple web site and that even then auto-installed widgets are in the
~/Library/Widgets folder. He then spewed a quote I have been having fun
shoving in his face ever since: "YOU were the person claiming that the ~
told people to go to HardDrive/users/username/ while I stated the ~
indicated the name of the hard drive only." This was not a typo on his
part; he made repeated errors about the meaning of the tilde. To this day
he vehemently denies his error.

Yet another troll saw me post the following:
"Incest", for most people, is not synonymous with "sex"...
The fact that *you* equate sex with incest is not my problem.
He stated he disagreed and stated such repulsive things as:
"Incest, for most people, IS synonymous with sex"
"I have *always* maintained that incest is synonymous with sex"
"I on the other hand have maintained that incest and sex are
synonymous!"
To this day *that* troll does not see why sex and incest are not synonymous.
Quite repulsive.

The funny thing is even though I am making it very clear I am posting their
lies just to get them all riled up again it will work. It works every time;
they feel the need to defend such stupidity. Amazing. Heck, I have at
least some of those trolls KFd right now, simply because I know it pisses
them off. They will *still* respond. There really is no doubt.

> CSMA'ers are the Rangers of Mac Middle Earth. We patrol the valleys and
> mountains and wastelands, way-laying WinTrolls bent on vandalizing the
> peaceful Mac newsgroups.
>
> Without our valiant efforts, comp.sys.mac.programmer would be a smoldering
> ruin. Our toils and sweat receive no thanks. None are needed. We are happy
> knowing that other Maccies are safe in their beds at night, sleeping the sleep
> of the Just Plain Satisified. If they even hear rumors of Windows, it's just
> a passing bad dream, or an easily forgotten moment of insanity with the PC at
> work.
>
> Windows drools! Macs rulez!

LOL!


--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:13:41 PM12/23/05
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In article <BFD1A9CF.3FA12%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git.
But I give you the benefit of the doubt because
you're a Maccie. If you're a Maccie, then you
can't be all bad, there's a small ray of hope for you.

Now be very qwiet and leave me alone. I'm a
hunting for WinTrolls. Every now and then a newbie
comes fumbling in and doesn't know squat about
CSMA, and that's when I pounce.

Beats the hell outta me why WinTrolls stroll into
CSMA anyway. The only time I've ever visited a
Windows newsgroup is when I got a call center
in India speaking gibberish, so I head over to a Windows
newsgroup to get somebody who can at least type
in English to help me out with a weird problem.
And then I thank the poster for their help, make a snide
remark that Windows sucks, and leave. Ha!

Jeff B

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:16:51 PM12/23/05
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In article <1h81ihh.1rffsye1f4j6fsN%Lars.T...@epost.de>,
Lars.T...@epost.de (Lars Träger) wrote:

Oh man, you never watch Firefly? Jayne is not your hero?!
Vera is the name of Jayne's very favoritest gun. Sure, he is
also particularly fond of hand grenades, but he named his
favorite gun Vera. She's a beauty.

The Serenity DVD is out this week, if you're interested.

Jeff B

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:23:00 PM12/23/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> stated in post
jefftedbarber-CD4...@news.verizon.net on 12/23/05 2:13 PM:

Aw, just because I like to feed some of the trolls. Well, you have a right
to your opinion.

> But I give you the benefit of the doubt because
> you're a Maccie. If you're a Maccie, then you
> can't be all bad, there's a small ray of hope for you.

Some of the Maccies are pretty much all bad, at least from what they show in
CSMA. :)


>
> Now be very qwiet and leave me alone. I'm a
> hunting for WinTrolls. Every now and then a newbie
> comes fumbling in and doesn't know squat about
> CSMA, and that's when I pounce.
>
> Beats the hell outta me why WinTrolls stroll into
> CSMA anyway. The only time I've ever visited a
> Windows newsgroup is when I got a call center
> in India speaking gibberish, so I head over to a Windows
> newsgroup to get somebody who can at least type
> in English to help me out with a weird problem.
> And then I thank the poster for their help, make a snide
> remark that Windows sucks, and leave. Ha!

LOL. Or was I not supposed to laugh?


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Feel free to ask for the recipe.

Donald McDaniel

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:33:45 PM12/23/05
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In article <BFD18E2C.3F9F3%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>, Snit
<SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

Personally, I believe that drinking Budweiser is "synonymous with poor
taste", as well as drinking Coors. "Budweiser, the BARF of beers."
It tastes just like like the men's room of a tavern smells on Sunday
morning.

Pop me open a Corona any time, however. I won't turn it down.
Or, if you don't have any Corona, pop me open a Blue Boar Ale.

But keep the Guinness for yourself. Its much too bitter for me.

--
Donald L McDaniel
Please reply in the same thread and Newsgroup,
so that the thread may be kept intact.
============================================================

Steve Hix

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:34:32 PM12/23/05
to
In article <jefftedbarber-2B7...@news.verizon.net>,
Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <S7idnYm2J8U...@adelphia.com>,
> "MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
> > >> > How ironic!
> > >>
> > >> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
> > >
> > > Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
> > > in and bought the farm.
> >
> > Wrong. BMW has the 2nd worst major repair record of any car manufacturer
> > besides Hyundia.
> > Consumer Reports 2005

Must not carry over to their motorcycles. The K100RT I owned was flat
out the most reliable transportation I ever owned. I haven't heard much
different from other BMW riders.

Now, L.J.K. Setwright did refer to BMW's cars are "tarted-up
sprunkwagen", but it's not entirely clear what he meant.



> The same Consumer Reports that writes about
> OS X viruses? I ask for informational purposes only.

Every single technology product of which I have had significant
knowledge, CR's reports and articles have managed to get wrong in
significant fashion.

They're pretty good at comparing prices for brands of mayonnaise, though.

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:39:58 PM12/23/05
to
In article <sehix-E145EA....@news.isp.giganews.com>,
Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:

> In article <jefftedbarber-2B7...@news.verizon.net>,
> Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <S7idnYm2J8U...@adelphia.com>,
> > "MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
> > > >> > How ironic!
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
> > > > in and bought the farm.
> > >
> > > Wrong. BMW has the 2nd worst major repair record of any car manufacturer
> > > besides Hyundia.
> > > Consumer Reports 2005
>
> Must not carry over to their motorcycles. The K100RT I owned was flat
> out the most reliable transportation I ever owned. I haven't heard much
> different from other BMW riders.
>
> Now, L.J.K. Setwright did refer to BMW's cars are "tarted-up
> sprunkwagen", but it's not entirely clear what he meant.

If it's any indication at all, it doesn't sound very appealing.
Like "predilection for dereliction", it ain't exactly a compliment.

Donald McDaniel

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Dec 23, 2005, 4:50:12 PM12/23/05
to
In article <1135361457....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<k96...@aol.com> wrote:

And MacTrolls aren't "sheep"? Maccies "follow the herd" just as much
as others. However, there are fewer MacSheep (only about 4% of the
market), and even fewer LinuxSheep. Of course, some are still a few
"CPMsheep", or "DOSsheep", or "Homosheep", or "LezSheep" (which I
prefer to call "LezEwes")

The fact is, we're ALL sheep, Windows users, Linux users, and Mac
users. Some of us just pay more to be "sheep" than others.


I, on the other hand, never paid for my Mac (or any of my Wintel
machines). So I guess that doesn't make me a "Sheep" at all.

Tim Murray

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Dec 23, 2005, 5:20:21 PM12/23/05
to
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:50:12 -0500, Donald McDaniel wrote:
> The fact is, we're ALL sheep, Windows users, Linux users, and Mac
> users. Some of us just pay more to be "sheep" than others.

We can't *all* be sheep. Some have to be the shepherds, and some, the wolves.

zara

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Dec 23, 2005, 6:22:23 PM12/23/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jefftedbarber-33D...@news.verizon.net...

> In article <1h81ihh.1rffsye1f4j6fsN%Lars.T...@epost.de>,
> Lars.T...@epost.de (Lars Träger) wrote:
>
>> Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No matter what Jobs offers in January, I'm gonna buy it.
>> > And I'm only kidding a little bit. If it's the new laptops, then
>> > one of them has my name on it.
>> >
>> > I'm gonna call it Vera.
>>
>> Your name is Vera?
>
> Oh man, you never watch Firefly? Jayne is not your hero?!
> Vera is the name of Jayne's very favoritest gun. Sure, he is
> also particularly fond of hand grenades, but he named his
> favorite gun Vera. She's a beauty.

My guns name is "Mr. Smiley".


zara

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Dec 23, 2005, 6:23:39 PM12/23/05
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"Tim Murray" <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:bI_qf.17588$kP5....@bignews5.bellsouth.net...


Deeeeep, verrry deep.
>


Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 6:37:49 PM12/23/05
to
In article <nC%qf.17610$kP5....@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

Because it makes your day?

Jeff B

Jeff B

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Dec 23, 2005, 6:43:58 PM12/23/05
to
In article <231220051350121822%inv...@invalid.com>,
Donald McDaniel <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:

> In article <1135361457....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> <k96...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >WinTrolls love cheap hardware, they buy PC's.
> >
> > Of course I have always compared Wintrolls to sheep....
> > Follow the herd....
> > Bwahhhhh, bwahhhhhh......
>
> And MacTrolls aren't "sheep"? Maccies "follow the herd" just as much
> as others. However, there are fewer MacSheep (only about 4% of the
> market), and even fewer LinuxSheep. Of course, some are still a few
> "CPMsheep", or "DOSsheep", or "Homosheep", or "LezSheep" (which I
> prefer to call "LezEwes")
>
> The fact is, we're ALL sheep, Windows users, Linux users, and Mac
> users. Some of us just pay more to be "sheep" than others.
>
>
> I, on the other hand, never paid for my Mac (or any of my Wintel
> machines). So I guess that doesn't make me a "Sheep" at all.

No, some are not sheep. Some are wolves in sheep's clothing.
You know, like George Bush. He's a wolf pretending to be a
sheep. All will be revealed on 06/06/2006, otherwise known
as 6/6/6. Israel will launch an attack against Iran in March 2006,
a Middle East horrendous war will ignite, and Bush will ride in
to save the day. The world will greet him as a conquering hero
and savior, and after that all Hell will break loose. The AntiChrist
will be revealed, Bush will cast aside his sheep skin.

And I don't think Tuxers (Linux users) are sheep at all. Those
guys can get downright nasty in a flame war. Makes WinTrolls
look like the pathetic piles that they are.

Jeff B

Steve Hix

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Dec 23, 2005, 7:21:41 PM12/23/05
to
In article <jefftedbarber-EA7...@news.verizon.net>,
Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <sehix-E145EA....@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> Steve Hix <se...@NOSPAMspeakeasy.netINVALID> wrote:
>
> > In article <jefftedbarber-2B7...@news.verizon.net>,
> > Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <S7idnYm2J8U...@adelphia.com>,
> > > "MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
> > > > >> > How ironic!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, now it's official. Your credibility has augered
> > > > > in and bought the farm.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong. BMW has the 2nd worst major repair record of any car
> > > > manufacturer
> > > > besides Hyundia.
> > > > Consumer Reports 2005
> >
> > Must not carry over to their motorcycles. The K100RT I owned was flat
> > out the most reliable transportation I ever owned. I haven't heard much
> > different from other BMW riders.
> >
> > Now, L.J.K. Setwright did refer to BMW's cars are "tarted-up
> > sprunkwagen", but it's not entirely clear what he meant.
>
> If it's any indication at all, it doesn't sound very appealing.
> Like "predilection for dereliction", it ain't exactly a compliment.

In this case, he was writing about early '50s BMW sedans, not a shining
moment for BMW. :}

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 7:26:27 PM12/23/05
to
"Donald McDaniel" <inv...@invalid.com> stated in post
231220051333452598%inv...@invalid.com on 12/23/05 2:33 PM:

>>> Tuxers are truly cheap bastards. It's not enough that
>>> they must have cheap hardware, they want the software
>>> to be free! They are bargain basement purists. Any
>>> political rants they spew about open standards and the
>>> freedom to create are just camouflage for their true
>>> pursuit - a PC to rip music and movies with for the cost
>>> of less than a good night out on the town. The less money
>>> they spend on the PC and software, the more money they
>>> have to spend on Coors. Oh, and did I mention they
>>> have no taste?
>>
>> For most beer drinkers, drinking Coors is synonymous with poor taste. :)
>
> Personally, I believe that drinking Budweiser is "synonymous with poor
> taste", as well as drinking Coors. "Budweiser, the BARF of beers."
> It tastes just like like the men's room of a tavern smells on Sunday
> morning.

When it comes to beers I see Bud, Coors, and poor taste all being
synonymous.


>
> Pop me open a Corona any time, however. I won't turn it down.
> Or, if you don't have any Corona, pop me open a Blue Boar Ale.

I am not much of a beer drinker but do have an occasional Corona. Maybe
once a year or so. I prefer a nice glass of Pinot Noir myself, though I
tend to buy a bottle or two a year and that is about it. Just not much of a
drinker.


>
> But keep the Guinness for yourself. Its much too bitter for me.

I agree, though I know many who love the stuff.


--
If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law.
Roy Santoro, Psycho Proverb Zone (http://snipurl.com/BurdenOfProof)

Tim Adams

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Dec 23, 2005, 10:58:51 PM12/23/05
to
In article <BFD1A9CF.3FA12%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> "Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> stated in post
> jefftedbarber-90F...@news.verizon.net on 12/23/05 12:39 PM:
>
> >>> Snit, for many years now my posts in CSMA have been
> >>> 99% nonsense and 1% seriousness. I throw in the
> >>> 1% to keep people guessing. A tiny little nugget of truth
> >>> snuggled inside a big heaping pile of shit.
>
> <SNIP />
>
> >> As long as you are open and honest with what you are doing I have no
> >> argument
> >> with you.
> >>
> > My mission statement is to protect the other Mac newsgroups by luring the
> > WinTrolls into CSMA.
>
> I do some

Trolling. Yes we know.


~Babbling snipped

--

Tim

Snit

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Dec 23, 2005, 11:06:34 PM12/23/05
to
"Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
BFD1A9CF.3FA12%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/23/05 1:19 PM:

Above I state:

At this point I have several of the trolls so caught up in
their pretzel logic and piles of lies that all they can do
is snip all but the first few words of posts and then spew their BS.

and:

The funny thing is even though I am making it very clear I am
posting their lies just to get them all riled up again it will
work. It works every time; they feel the need to defend such
stupidity. Amazing.

Gee, Tim, thanks for proving me right: <http://snipurl.com/l1a6>.

LOL! Do you have *any* clue how predictable your trolling has become? Do
you not see how you did *exactly* what I said you would and for the exact
reasons I said you would do so? Please, Tim, tell me you did so for the
irony and did not really mean your trolling. Please. If not you give even
the trolls a bad name. :)


--
If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law.
Roy Santoro, Psycho Proverb Zone (http://snipurl.com/BurdenOfProof)

_________________________________________

C Lund

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Dec 24, 2005, 3:46:40 AM12/24/05
to
In article <2oadnWIcVZc...@adelphia.com>,
"MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:wlTqf.3120$Lb1....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > "C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
> > news:clund-033184....@amstwist00.chello.com...
> >> In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> >> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
> >> You're just another wintroll who's too dumb to know the difference
> >> between quantity and quality.
> > Duh- uh - Barf.
> Every personal attack is another win! People only go there when they are
> beaten..... Probably why Lund has been nothing but personal attacks for 5
> years.

That wasn't a personal attack. It was a factual statement.

--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

C Lund

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Dec 24, 2005, 3:49:49 AM12/24/05
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In article <KiWqf.6349$wq....@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
> What is the story with Linux? I'm told that it is a superior OS.

Depends what kind of OS you want. For some, it is *the* OS to use.
(just like Windows is the OS for g4mer d00dz)

> But many
> here bash it. Can you fill me in?

Linux is a bit lacking in the UI dept - at least when compared with OS
X.

--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

C Lund

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Dec 24, 2005, 3:52:09 AM12/24/05
to
In article <231220051350121822%inv...@invalid.com>,
Donald McDaniel <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:

> And MacTrolls aren't "sheep"?

FYI: This is CS MAC A. There are no "mactrolls" in here.

> Maccies "follow the herd" just as much
> as others.

No. We're not following the herd. If we maccies followed the herd,
we'd be using Windows - the OS everybody uses because everybody uses
it.

--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

C Lund

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Dec 24, 2005, 3:54:36 AM12/24/05
to
In article <r5hoq11ui7qsalecp...@4ax.com>,
llort <ll...@anon.com> wrote:

> If Mac users really loved quality they would be building their own
> high end machines and not accepting the few limited choices that Steve
> Jobs has provided them.

Do you make your own hammers or do you make do with the limited
choices at the hardware store?

--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

Tim Adams

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Dec 24, 2005, 8:37:54 AM12/24/05
to
In article <BFD2175A.3FA4A%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> "Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
> BFD1A9CF.3FA12%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/23/05 1:19 PM:
>
> >>> As long as you are open and honest with what you are doing I have no
> >>> argument
> >>> with you.
> >>>
> >> My mission statement is to protect the other Mac newsgroups by luring the
> >> WinTrolls into CSMA.
> >
> > I do

a lot of trolling. We know.

Your continuing to post your dribble show it quite clearly.

~babbling where snit once again proves he can't read and follow a thread, can't
understand the meaning of synonymous, and in general makes an idiot of himself
snipped once again.

--

Tim

zara

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Dec 24, 2005, 9:03:05 AM12/24/05
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"Jeff B" <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jefftedbarber-56A...@news.verizon.net...

> In article <231220051350121822%inv...@invalid.com>,
> Donald McDaniel <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1135361457....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> <k96...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> No, some are not sheep. Some are wolves in sheep's clothing.
> You know, like George Bush. He's a wolf pretending to be a
> sheep. All will be revealed on 06/06/2006, otherwise known
> as 6/6/6. Israel will launch an attack against Iran in March 2006,
> a Middle East horrendous war will ignite, and Bush will ride in
> to save the day. The world will greet him as a conquering hero
> and savior, and after that all Hell will break loose. The AntiChrist
> will be revealed, Bush will cast aside his sheep skin.

It wouldn't surprise me.


Jim Lee Jr.

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Dec 24, 2005, 9:27:46 AM12/24/05
to
In article <0wcrf.12733$Lb1....@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

That Bill Gates is the Antichrist and Steve Ballmer is the False Prophet?

--
Microsoft and Windoze: The combination that made computing dangerous.
Apple and OS X: The combination that made computing insanely great.
"VISTA" an acronym for the top five Windows problems: Viruses,
Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware.
As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care

Snit

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Dec 24, 2005, 12:15:41 PM12/24/05
to
"Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
BFD2175A.3FA4A%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/23/05 9:06 PM:

Poor, poor Tim.

> I do some
Trolling - Tim Adams

Some, Tim? No, you do a lot of trolling.


--
"Innovation is not about saying yes to everything. It's about saying NO to
all but the most crucial features." -- Steve Jobs

MuahMan

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Dec 24, 2005, 12:55:14 PM12/24/05
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"C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
news:clund-BFABD4....@amstwist00.chello.com...

It's ok. Personal attacks by the Mac-Jihad are the best. Lets me know i'm
really getting to you. If you aren't equipped to deal
with the issues you have to use personal attacks. It's pretty pathetic but I
understand why we make you so angry.


Tim Adams

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Dec 24, 2005, 1:01:48 PM12/24/05
to
In article <BFD2D04D.3FAA4%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> "Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
> BFD2175A.3FA4A%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/23/05 9:06 PM:
>
> > "Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
> > BFD1A9CF.3FA12%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/23/05 1:19 PM:
> >
> >>>> As long as you are open and honest with what you are doing I have no
> >>>> argument
> >>>> with you.
> >>>>
> >>> My mission statement is to protect the other Mac newsgroups by luring the
> >>> WinTrolls into CSMA.
> >>
> >> I do

a lot of trolling and forging quotes. Yes snit we know all that already.

~babbling form the dung coated, trolling snit snipped

--

Tim

Snit

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Dec 24, 2005, 1:24:34 PM12/24/05
to
"Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
BFD2D04D.3FAA4%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/24/05 10:15 AM:

>> Above I state:
>>
>> At this point I have several of the trolls so caught up in
>> their pretzel logic and piles of lies that all they can do
>> is snip all but the first few words of posts and then spew their BS.
>>
>> and:
>>
>> The funny thing is even though I am making it very clear I am
>> posting their lies just to get them all riled up again it will
>> work. It works every time; they feel the need to defend such
>> stupidity. Amazing.
>>
>> Gee, Tim, thanks for proving me right: <http://snipurl.com/l1a6>.
>>
>> LOL! Do you have *any* clue how predictable your trolling has become? Do
>> you not see how you did *exactly* what I said you would and for the exact
>> reasons I said you would do so? Please, Tim, tell me you did so for the
>> irony and did not really mean your trolling. Please. If not you give even
>> the trolls a bad name. :)
>>
> Poor, poor Tim.
>
>> I do some
> Trolling - Tim Adams
>
> Some, Tim? No, you do a lot of trolling.

And how does Tim respond?

-----
> I do
a lot of trolling and forging quotes. - Tim Adams
-----

Tim *does* do a "a lot of trolling and forging quotes", just as he admits.
For once he says something I will not argue with.

Too bad in order to make his admission Tim had to *again* snip and run.

And, of course, that *is* how Tim will respond to this post. He will run
from the content that was applicable to him:

-----


Another troll jumped into a conversation about auto-installed widgets
were I commented in how, at the time, Apple's site said they could not
be removed.
The troll said they could be removed by deleting them from the
/Library/Widgets folder. He was corrected and told that the concern was
with the Apple web site and that even then auto-installed widgets are in
the ~/Library/Widgets folder. He then spewed a quote I have been having
fun shoving in his face ever since: "YOU were the person claiming that
the ~ told people to go to HardDrive/users/username/ while I stated
the ~ indicated the name of the hard drive only." This was not a typo
on his part; he made repeated errors about the meaning of the tilde. To
this day he vehemently denies his error.

-----

Tim will *always* run from that. He will *always* do what I said he will:

-----


At this point I have several of the trolls so caught up in
their pretzel logic and piles of lies that all they can do
is snip all but the first few words of posts and then spew their BS.

-----

Tim feels he has no choice; his lies and trolling, and his forging of
quotes, have him so backed into a corner he cannot find an out. Like a
cornered animal, though, he will feel the need to lash out and troll and
flame me more. He cannot stop himself now; he just keeps hoping for one of
his buddies to jump in and rescue him. But not even they will support him
on his lies about the tilde.

As I told you, Tim, had you just admitted to your error - or even just let
it go - you would not have gotten yourself stuck in this predicament. You
have nobody to blame but yourself.


--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.

zara

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Dec 24, 2005, 5:00:48 PM12/24/05
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"MuahMan" <mua...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mJKdnSif-7kfFjDe...@adelphia.com...

Lund is not a good MacFish. Same old boring, dull, weak fight. A real
garbage fish - almost not worth throwing back.
>
>


Tim Adams

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Dec 24, 2005, 10:08:56 PM12/24/05
to
In article <BFD2E072.3FAAD%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:


~babbling fro the trolling, quote forging, dung coated circus clown snipped.

What a surprise there's nothing left.

--

Tim

Snit

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Dec 24, 2005, 10:40:50 PM12/24/05
to
"Snit" <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> stated in post
BFD2E072.3FAAD%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID on 12/24/05 11:24 AM:

Tim responded: <http://snipurl.com/l1t4>.

Please note all Tim was able to do was snip and run. Not even Tim can find
flaw with my comments, above.

And, of course, Tim *will* respond with more of his cowardly snipping and
running. What he will *never* do is admit to his ignorance about the tilde.
Poor, poor Tim. Sorta feel sorry for the guy. At least he is still worth
my pity - more than I can say for some of the trolls in CSMA.


--

> I do
a lot of trolling and forging quotes. - Tim Adams

_________________________________________

Tim Adams

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Dec 24, 2005, 11:39:00 PM12/24/05
to
In article <BFD362D2.3FAC5%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

Please note that the only comment snit has to make is the same BS that he's been
made a fool over time and time again.

Snit

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Dec 24, 2005, 11:59:48 PM12/24/05
to
LOL!

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teadams$2$0$0$3-5877DF.22...@news1.east.earthlink.net
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OK, Tim, I think five times of your running from information is enough to
make it clear you are a cowardly troll who will *never* support your BS.

Thanks for playing - and have fun snipping and running. This thread is
clearly over, but don't think I will stop pointing out your BS elsewhere.
:)

Happy Holidays to you!

Oh, and just because it pisses you off so badly, here is the info you hate
me reminding you about:

-----
Another troll jumped into a conversation about auto-installed widgets
were I commented in how, at the time, Apple's site said they could not
be removed.
The troll said they could be removed by deleting them from the
/Library/Widgets folder. He was corrected and told that the concern was
with the Apple web site and that even then auto-installed widgets are in
the ~/Library/Widgets folder. He then spewed a quote I have been having
fun shoving in his face ever since: "YOU were the person claiming that
the ~ told people to go to HardDrive/users/username/ while I stated
the ~ indicated the name of the hard drive only." This was not a typo
on his part; he made repeated errors about the meaning of the tilde. To
this day he vehemently denies his error.
-----

Poor pitiful Tim Adams. His pile of lies fell and crushed him.

Tim Adams

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Dec 25, 2005, 8:05:19 AM12/25/05
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In article <BFD37554.3FAD1%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
Snit <SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> LOL!
>

As I've said before, laugh all you want. It's the laugh of an idiot you hear.
A few words about snit for this holiday morning...


Snit: "I do not believe in consensus reality. I believe in facts."

Fact is most csma posters have noticed that Snit is different. Many cola
posters have noticed too. Here is what over 60 different posters have to
say about him.

----- NEW CSMA_MODERATOR'S FAVORITES! -----

Henry Flam: "Snit, your just a troll. It's irrelevant that you advocate the
Mac. Many folks in this group would be happy if you just disappeared. But I
guess it will never happen. Sigh... "

TheLetterK: "You don't understand simple english, nor do you have the
honesty to admit when you are entirely incorrect."

-------------------------------------------

--------- (DIS)HONORABLE MENTIONS ---------

TheLetterK: "And I think your an idiot."
------------------------------------------------------------

----------- CSMA_MODERATOR'S ALL TIME FAVORITES! -----------

1- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour and
not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd leave too.

Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never
made the same wish of him."

2- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth, you are
flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the newsgroup."

3- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes, then
troll. Otherwise, maybe.

Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire, but it's fixed now."

4- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but since
Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent discussion
about anything.

The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just
can't stop feeding him."

5- b unny: "snit makes me sad."

6- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."

7- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him "shit", and rightly so, for they way
he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot, and simply
refused to die, despite repeated flushes.

It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..."

8- Removed

9- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to "win" an
argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must you keep this
up? What results are you expecting?"

10- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread what I
had previously written. What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of reading into
things what you wanted people to have said instead of what they really
said. I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look
foolish."

Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all of them
are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many diverse people
who share a common perception where do you think the problem lies? With
Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced
degree to figure out."

11- Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please shut up!

Thank you."

12- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and loser
you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up responding
as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for the magnitude of
your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop
responding to you. you almost always start responding back in a semi-normal
way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time. i can only ask
that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child for having to
put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a
loser as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be; if not,
double condolences to her). "

13- Edwin: "The worst troll this NG has ever seen is playing the part of the
victim... you can almost hear the violins playing in the background as he
whines... hilarious..."

14- Elijah Baley: "If there's ever been a better example of a sociopath than
this Snit character I haven't seen one."

15- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points in my
post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode. How
childishly typical of you, Snit. "

16- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit (AKA
Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy with
his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He
will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his
endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger you and
feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!"

17- Greycloud: "I'm beginning to see what you people mean. Are we sure he's
a school teacher?? After all, school has started, so where does he get the
time to blow? "

18- Henry Flam: "Snit, your just a troll. It's irrelevant that you advocate
the Mac. Many folks in this group would be happy if you just disappeared.
But I guess it will never happen. Sigh... "


19- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"

20- Jamie Hart (cola): "I was very deliberate in my choice of words, so far
in our exchange, you have claimed to say something you didn't, accused me
of deliberately removing context and accused me of calling you names.

You don't have a very good record so far, and I don't have the time to put
up with your posting style, so this is the last you will hear from me."

21- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on usenet
that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh your screen
endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over. Either you're a
super troll, or you're a super mess."

22- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me achieve a
greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those
kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this."

23- Jim Lee Jr.: "Troll."

24- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall - in a
few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at passersby
'sucky sucky, $2...'"

25- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like a
black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain an
unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up? Please??"

26- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings since
I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I just
consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name."

27- John Slade: "Snit is full of shit and knows little about computers.
However I don't think anyone should leave based on how stupid they are.
Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. If Snit wants to display
his ignorance and lack of knowledge, he should have that right."

28- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad hominem
attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks.You
make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You're a
liar and a hypocrite and you always have been."

29- Lefty Bigfoot: "I am once again amazed at how quickly the mindless
parrots inside the RDF will change direction. You are a caricature of the
typical Apple zealot."

30- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been an
annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense of trying
to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is trashtalk about
Linux and you acting every bit the troll."

31- Linønut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."

32- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most cretinous, I
would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-) "

33- Mark Kent (cola): "Snit is an uber-troll of the worst order... nit's as
likely to admit error as E.Funkenbusch. If he really teaches (which I
strongly doubt), it must be awful to be taught by someone who cannot accept
when they're wrong, this being one of the fundamental methods for
learning..."

34- Mayor of R'lyeh: "Here's a hint. Whenever Snit is involved double check
everything. He's a major jackass and loves to do things like this."

35- Mike: "The evidence is overwhelming, and self-explanatory. You're not
smart enough to get someone *already there* to press the floppy eject
button - assuming, of course, that this Carefully Contrived Scenario
actually happened. Which we can only assume that it did not. All we
have is your word - hardly compelling."

36- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I can only
say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to inhabit
CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged you actually
behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional help."

37- mmoore321: "Typical Snit response. Since you could not address that my
comment was about your message and not your sig you decided to do some
pedantic reply. This is a common tact you employ. Don't address the intent
of the message, but try to be "clever". It is a shame it is so
transparent."

38- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two about
social behavior."

39- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are trolls,
if anyone here has issues it's not me."

40- Nashton: "This issue was beaten to death. I cannot imagine why Snit is
bringing it up and why anybody would bother to engage in conversation with
him on this topic."

41- Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced that snit is a
total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly am now. Why
bother responding to his stupidities anyway?"

42- news/Andy: "Snit you obviously need to be more precise when you argue
with some people, or are you doing it deliberately?"

43- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher:
Select offending Author, example Snit...
Go to the Filters Menu, Choose "Kill this Author"
Click "OK"
Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice.
Then to see your work...
Choose the Filter Menu again,
Then "Refilter Articles"...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing.
Enjoy!!!!!"

44- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher but I
thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten seconds later
and he's gone! Amazing."

45- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has told
me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."

46- Peter Köhlmann (cola): "His extremely dishonest way of taking posts out
of context is nothing new, wintrolls have tried this since ages (and failed
miserably)

I don't think that there is a single regular poster in cola thinking that
Snit is *not* a troll"

47- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get superficial
snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."

48- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long standing
war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you single out
persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously berate them
with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses,
which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum.

Above all things, your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature
aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting
this and other groups is to troll."

49-Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash people
that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous situation. And
you do it without the slightest idea of what is going on."

50- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a troll. I
am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he is ...
somewhat clumsy."

51- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category. Starting
crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to generate a flame
war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it can help you
and your supposed users why aren't you requesting help from a more
technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group?
As the old saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts
seem to confirm that saying IMHO."

52- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY- of
csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news group
before.

He has the ability to turn just about any person against him in just a few
posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is
that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll - damn what
-EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are wrong.

Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour."

53- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're probably
dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to remove smut from
your harddrive."

54- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing anger, i
guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks he's
making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's pretty smart.
indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and the iq tests and
he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."

55- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that he has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll (or worse) by the vast majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."

56- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of elephant dung,
and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the "Snit Circus", but then
the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like elephant dung.
It's much better now that he's in my kill file. :)"

57- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost all
self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'asses' when
referring to others.

Oh, how could the morally superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a
moment out of your busy schedule to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we
should set up a fund to get him more happy glue (and the appropriate
plastic bags)."

58- TheLetterK: "You don't understand simple english, nor do you have the
honesty to admit when you are entirely incorrect."

59- Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see, you
never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just the
other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in this NG
anyway) calling somebody else a liar."

60- Tim Smith: "Another troll attempt using a random redirector."

61- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"

62- Tommy: "LIAR!!!"

63- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit. Most
people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict their
responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'.

Just what would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must
be some kind of severe mental illness."

64- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are nothing
more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to define the
rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the rules when
inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I doubt anyone
would be foolish enough to play your game."

65- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my sincere
apologies for this, PLONK!
Feel proud about that. You're the first person to be plonked from my new
computer! :-) "

66- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"

67- zara: "ya know Snit, I am one of your fans. I also admit to being a
Troll- why don't you admit to being a Troll also?? That hoilier than thou
bullshit, dosen't flush. "

68- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw more
people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve/Elizabot/etc' tactic
is fairly trollish."

--

Tim

Lars Träger

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Dec 25, 2005, 10:15:02 AM12/25/05
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Jeff B <jeffte...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh man, you never watch Firefly? Jayne is not your hero?!
> Vera is the name of Jayne's very favoritest gun. Sure, he is
> also particularly fond of hand grenades, but he named his
> favorite gun Vera. She's a beauty.
>

> The Serenity DVD is out this week, if you're interested.

I live in Germany. The movie is still pretty fresh in the theaters, the
TV show hasn't even run yet.

At least we got Macs here.
--
Lars T.

Jeff B

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Dec 26, 2005, 10:58:01 AM12/26/05
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In article <1h81vud.13lxoll8f5h9sN%Lars.T...@epost.de>,
Lars.T...@epost.de (Lars Träger) wrote:

Macs - The silver lining for just about everything.
If Jobs (the Bible, not Apple) had a Mac, he woulda
quit his bitching.

Jeff B

Floater

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Dec 30, 2005, 2:29:36 AM12/30/05
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On 2005-12-22 20:08:31 -0500, "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> said:

>
> <k96...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1135294126.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


>>
>> zara wrote:
>>> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
>>

>> Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
>> How ironic!
>
> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.

Those are from the words of a proud Chevrolet Astro driver. JEALOUS!
Bet if you can afford one (the same as affording a Mac G5) you'd do it.

Floater

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Dec 30, 2005, 2:32:09 AM12/30/05
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On 2005-12-22 23:15:53 -0500, vsha...@comcast.net said:

> BWMs truly ****. The "user interface" (i.e ergonomics) are truly
> annoying.
>
> They don't operate like regular cars. You have to put your key in, the
> hold the brakes, then press the start button to start the car.
>
> Also, they have a short lever for the turn signal, which is really
> uncomfortable every time you have to use that turn signal lever. And
> the lever is too sensitive - if you turn the signal off, the other
> signal flashes. If you were signalling "left", then turn the signal
> off, it signals "right".
>
> And they have a stupid knob wheel to navigate around menus on the
> screen. The knob "vibrates" when you rotate it. Also, there is a delay
> when you turn the knob clockwise or counter-clockwise. This delay is
> totally unneccesary and also annoying. I don't want to wait each time.
> And, the screen menus are not really intuitive, it really is annoying.
>
> So, if you want to use the analogy that OSX is like a BMW, you would
> have to conclude that OSX is overpriced, non-intuitive, and just
> annoying.

Sounds as annoying as ther way Windows- based platforms operate.

Floater

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Dec 30, 2005, 2:34:52 AM12/30/05
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On 2005-12-23 08:58:28 -0500, "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> said:

>
> "C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
> news:clund-033184....@amstwist00.chello.com...
>> In article <dUEqf.26648$k76....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,

>> "zara" <zsp...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
>>

>> You're just another wintroll who's too dumb to know the difference
>> between quantity and quality.
>
> Duh- uh - Barf.

Zara... she's demonstrating her quick wit.

I'm sure she doesn't read, but for those who do....

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/biztech/12/26/apple.whats.next.ap/index.html

Hovis

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Dec 31, 2005, 9:35:57 AM12/31/05
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In article <N3Iqf.22739$aS5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, zara
<zsp...@aol.com> wrote:

> <k96...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1135294126.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >

> > zara wrote:
> >> Just look at it's huge, 4% market share.
> >

> > Yes, I think BMW's have about the same market share too!
> > How ironic!
>
> Yeah they're overpriced pieces of shit too.
>
>

Who cares ?

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