Wacom graphics tablet
markto...@gmail.com
I have the option of purchasing a Wacom graphire3 4x6 or graphire4 4x6
for about the same price.
I am looking to use it as a replacement for a mouse and to make more
intuitive key commands for internet browsing and document writing. Does
anyone have an opinion on which model would be better for this? I would
like to use it on both PC and Mac, so compatability advice would be
greatly appreciated too.
Thanks
Mark
Mayor of R'lyeh
>Hey everybody,
>
>I have the option of purchasing a Wacom graphire3 4x6 or graphire4 4x6
>for about the same price.
>
>
>I am looking to use it as a replacement for a mouse and to make more
>intuitive key commands for internet browsing and document writing. Does
>
>anyone have an opinion on which model would be better for this?
The real difference between the two is the the 4 version includes two
butons on the pad. If that's something you'd find useful then go with
the 4.
> I would
>
>like to use it on both PC and Mac, so compatability advice would be
>greatly appreciated too.
>
I've got both a 3 and a 4 in the 4X5 size. I've used themon my Windows
machines and on friends' Macs with no troubles.
>Thanks
>
>
>Mark
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Edwin
Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2006 18:52:30 -0700, markto...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Hey everybody,
> >
> >I have the option of purchasing a Wacom graphire3 4x6 or graphire4 4x6
> >for about the same price.
> >
> >
> >I am looking to use it as a replacement for a mouse and to make more
> >intuitive key commands for internet browsing and document writing. Does
> >
> >anyone have an opinion on which model would be better for this?
>
> The real difference between the two is the the 4 version includes two
> butons on the pad. If that's something you'd find useful then go with
> the 4.
>
> > I would
> >
> >like to use it on both PC and Mac, so compatability advice would be
> >greatly appreciated too.
> >
>
> machines and on friends' Macs with no troubles.
It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
requests for help...
Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
Steve Carroll
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
I too, have had no trouble with it (I've only used it on a Mac, though)
and I like the unit a lot.
--
Heck, OS X is not even partially based on FreeBSD - Snit
Sandman and Carroll are running around trying to crucify trolls
like myself - Snit
I am a bigger liar than Steve - Snit
Mayor of R'lyeh
>
>Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
>> On 27 Sep 2006 18:52:30 -0700, markto...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >Hey everybody,
>> >
>> >I have the option of purchasing a Wacom graphire3 4x6 or graphire4 4x6
>> >for about the same price.
>> >
>> >
>> >I am looking to use it as a replacement for a mouse and to make more
>> >intuitive key commands for internet browsing and document writing. Does
>> >
>> >anyone have an opinion on which model would be better for this?
>>
>> The real difference between the two is the the 4 version includes two
>> butons on the pad. If that's something you'd find useful then go with
>> the 4.
>>
>> > I would
>> >
>> >like to use it on both PC and Mac, so compatability advice would be
>> >greatly appreciated too.
>> >
>>
>> I've got both a 3 and a 4 in the 4X5 size. I've used them on my Windows
>> machines and on friends' Macs with no troubles.
>
>It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>requests for help...
The Maccies can't figure out howto turn something like that into a
personal attack.
>
>Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
I'm on vacation from the braindead backbiters so I've got him and
several others temporarily killfiled.
Mayor of R'lyeh
wrote:
>In article <1159458366....@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
>> > On 27 Sep 2006 18:52:30 -0700, markto...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hey everybody,
>> > >
>> > >I have the option of purchasing a Wacom graphire3 4x6 or graphire4 4x6
>> > >for about the same price.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I am looking to use it as a replacement for a mouse and to make more
>> > >intuitive key commands for internet browsing and document writing. Does
>> > >
>> > >anyone have an opinion on which model would be better for this?
>> >
>> > The real difference between the two is the the 4 version includes two
>> > butons on the pad. If that's something you'd find useful then go with
>> > the 4.
>> >
>> > > I would
>> > >
>> > >like to use it on both PC and Mac, so compatability advice would be
>> > >greatly appreciated too.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I've got both a 3 and a 4 in the 4X5 size. I've used them on my Windows
>> > machines and on friends' Macs with no troubles.
>>
>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>> requests for help...
>>
>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
>
>Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
plenty of time to beat me to it.
>I too, have had no trouble with it (I've only used it on a Mac, though)
>and I like the unit a lot.
I forgot to mention that the 4 version also has a scroll wheel.
Alan Baker
LOL
Unlike you, Edwin. My life is not tied to CSMA. My brother's been in
town and I've been too busy to toy with you for a few days.
--
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admit the sky is blue?'
'Isn't it funny that Final Cut Pro is nowhere to be seen at Pixar? They're
an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'
'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my remarks off the top of my head.'
'It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix.'
Alan Baker
Snit
8onoh2t5ch2gmrv0a...@4ax.com on 9/28/06 4:48 PM:
>>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>>> requests for help...
>>>
>>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
>>
>> Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
>
> The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
> plenty of time to beat me to it.
Was Carroll spewing a "me too" post again? LOL!
--
€ The tilde in an OS X path does *not* mean "the hard drive only"
€ Things which are not the same are not "identical"
€ The word "ouch" is not a sure sign of agreement.
Snit
alangbaker-1B0DF...@news.telus.net on 9/28/06 5:24 PM:
>>> I've got both a 3 and a 4 in the 4X5 size. I've used them on my Windows
>>> machines and on friends' Macs with no troubles.
>>
>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>> requests for help...
>>
>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
>
> LOL
>
> Unlike you, Edwin. My life is not tied to CSMA. My brother's been in
> town and I've been too busy to toy with you for a few days.
Edwin has been too busy snipping and running to notice.
--
€ A partial subset is not synonymous with the whole
€ A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
€ Apple doesn't provide as many options as the rest of the PC industry
Steve Carroll
Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.o...@gmail.com> stated in post
> 8onoh2t5ch2gmrv0a...@4ax.com on 9/28/06 4:48 PM:
>
> >>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
> >>> requests for help...
> >>>
> >>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
> >>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
> >>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
> >>
> >> Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
> >
> > The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
> > plenty of time to beat me to it.
>
> Was Carroll spewing a "me too" post again? LOL!
...wrote the king of "me too" posts as he made yet *another* incorrect
guess;)
Mayor of R'lyeh
chose to bless us with the following wisdom:
>In article <C141C6E5.60EB2%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
>> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.o...@gmail.com> stated in post
>> 8onoh2t5ch2gmrv0a...@4ax.com on 9/28/06 4:48 PM:
>>
>> >>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>> >>> requests for help...
>> >>>
>> >>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>> >>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>> >>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
>> >>
>> >> Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
>> >
>> > The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
>> > plenty of time to beat me to it.
>>
>> Was Carroll spewing a "me too" post again? LOL!
>
>...wrote the king of "me too" posts as he made yet *another* incorrect
>guess;)
The next time I'm at a good place for echos I'm going to shout 'Steve
Carroll' and see if the echo comes back 'Snit'.
--
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very structure of our government."
Al Gore
Bill Clinton became eligible for reinstatement to the
bar on January 19,2006 after losing his law license
in 2001 for comitting perjury.
Steve Carroll
Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:38:15 -0600, Steve Carroll <no...@nowhere.net>
> chose to bless us with the following wisdom:
>
> >In article <C141C6E5.60EB2%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> > Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
> >
> >> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.o...@gmail.com> stated in post
> >> 8onoh2t5ch2gmrv0a...@4ax.com on 9/28/06 4:48 PM:
> >>
> >> >>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
> >> >>> requests for help...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
> >> >>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
> >> >>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
> >> >
> >> > The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
> >> > plenty of time to beat me to it.
> >>
> >> Was Carroll spewing a "me too" post again? LOL!
> >
> >...wrote the king of "me too" posts as he made yet *another* incorrect
> >guess;)
>
> The next time I'm at a good place for echos I'm going to shout 'Steve
> Carroll' and see if the echo comes back 'Snit'.
You've never seen the zillions of "me too" posts gluehead writes? Unless
you have him kf'd I don't believe it.
Mayor of R'lyeh
<mayor.o...@gmail.com> chose to bless us with the following
wisdom:
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:13:53 -0600, Steve Carroll <no...@nowhere.net>
>chose to bless us with the following wisdom:
>
>>In article <a58ph2lsjf8rllodm...@4ax.com>,
>> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:38:15 -0600, Steve Carroll <no...@nowhere.net>
>>> chose to bless us with the following wisdom:
>>>
>>> >In article <C141C6E5.60EB2%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
>>> > Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.o...@gmail.com> stated in post
>>> >> 8onoh2t5ch2gmrv0a...@4ax.com on 9/28/06 4:48 PM:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> It seems lately that WinTrolls are the only one answering Maccie
>>> >> >>> requests for help...
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Where's Alan Baker, BTW? Just hiding in the tall grass, or is he
>>> >> >>> scouring Usenet archives until he drops from exhaustion, searching for
>>> >> >>> a quote of you saying Apple is going out of business?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hey, I could have chimed in on the Wacom tablet but Mayor beat me to it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The post was up for a day or two before I replied to it. There was
>>> >> > plenty of time to beat me to it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Was Carroll spewing a "me too" post again? LOL!
>>> >
>>> >...wrote the king of "me too" posts as he made yet *another* incorrect
>>> >guess;)
>>>
>>> The next time I'm at a good place for echos I'm going to shout 'Steve
>>> Carroll' and see if the echo comes back 'Snit'.
>>
>>You've never seen the zillions of "me too" posts gluehead writes? Unless
>>you have him kf'd I don't believe it.
The problems isn't Snit. He's an immature lying twit and everyone
knows it. The problem is that you insist on giving him exactly what he
wants. You're like the wife that keeps making beer runs for her
alcoholic husband and then complains that he's drunk.
Somebody's got to be grownup enough to stop the cycle and it sure
isn't going to be Snit.
Snit
>>>> The next time I'm at a good place for echos I'm going to shout 'Steve
>>>> Carroll' and see if the echo comes back 'Snit'.
>>>
>>> You've never seen the zillions of "me too" posts gluehead writes? Unless
>>> you have him kf'd I don't believe it.
>
> The problems isn't Snit. He's an immature lying twit and everyone
> knows it.
I would love to have you support that accusation. I can easily support the
same of Carroll: the fact he has spewed the *same* lie about me over 2000
times shows he is immature and dishonest. He is, undoubtedly, the *most*
dishonest person to ever disgrace the face of CSMA.
> The problem is that you insist on giving him exactly what he wants.
Not fully correct:
I *want* Steve to respond in an honest and honorable way.
I *want* Steve to stop lying about me.
I *want* Steve to stop spewing absurd accusations against me - accusations
he cannot support.
I cannot make Steve do that.
What I can, and do, get Steve to do is freak out and panic. Steve is very
easy to manipulate and control *within* certain parameters. I have been
very clear in the past... and even told Steve how his compulsions will force
him to respond - usually by snipping, lying, running and playing other
immature games. Steve cannot stop himself. I can show examples if you
wish.
> You're like the wife that keeps making beer runs for her alcoholic husband and
> then complains that he's drunk. Somebody's got to be grownup enough to stop
> the cycle and it sure isn't going to be Snit.
For the most part, though not fully, I generally ignore Steve. Sure, I
sometimes mention his obsession and his deep need to lie about me... he,
however, is the one who has lied about me in *every one* of his last 2000+
posts... there is nothing dishonorable nor dishonest about my commenting on
his doing so.
Steve will not act in a mature way because he cannot, just as Steve was not
only unable to stay true to his unmarried "wife", he was so foolish as to
call himself a moron, an asshole, and and admit to his infidelity. The man
needs more help than anyone in CSMA can give him.
--
€ Pros aren't beginners in their field (though there are new pros)
€ Similarly configured Macs and Win machines tend to cost roughly the same
€ Some people do use the term "screen name" in relation to IRC
Steve Carroll
Of course, but he doesn't think he is... that's where the comedy lives;)
> The problem is that you insist on giving him exactly what he
> wants.
What I give him... I'm pretty sure he doesn't want.
> You're like the wife that keeps making beer runs for her
> alcoholic husband and then complains that he's drunk.
LOL! I'm not complaining about Snit... I'm just pointing out realities
to him that he would prefer doesn't exist. C'mon... we're talking about
a guy who considers himself a hard working 'teacher'... who just happens
to post to usenet 24/7. This is a guy who tries to convince everyone he
knows all this shit about computers, yet, he couldn't perform a simple
ROM update on a router... a guy who has claimed *all* his psychiatrists
and psychotherapists have given him a clean bill of mental health;)
Certainly you can see the humor here, no?
> Somebody's got to be grownup enough to stop the cycle and it sure
> isn't going to be Snit.
I haven't posted here much lately... when I come back and see what's up,
it's damn obvious "the cycle" goes on fine without me.
Mayor of R'lyeh
I'm not sure that you really understand the hows and whys of people
like Snit.
He knows he's wrong. He knows he's lying. He does that for the simple
reason that its hard to get the kind of reaction that he wants by
telling the truth and saying what is correct.
>
>> The problem is that you insist on giving him exactly what he
>> wants.
>
>What I give him... I'm pretty sure he doesn't want.
You're wrong. He doesn't care that you point out his lies. He already
knew they were lies. He doesn't care that you call him 'gluehead' and
the like. All he cares about is 'I made Steve Carroll think about me
today'. That's it. That's all he's after. And you give it to him in
spades. He's winning.
The fact is that he's probably pulling it to this post since its all
about him and he managed to make me think about him today.
A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her house and
videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then burned a
DVD of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got mad. He
got mad because we quit making him the center of attention and made
that kid on the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv
and tried to block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole
life.
>
>> You're like the wife that keeps making beer runs for her
>> alcoholic husband and then complains that he's drunk.
>
>LOL! I'm not complaining about Snit... I'm just pointing out realities
>to him that he would prefer doesn't exist. C'mon... we're talking about
>a guy who considers himself a hard working 'teacher'... who just happens
>to post to usenet 24/7. This is a guy who tries to convince everyone he
>knows all this shit about computers, yet, he couldn't perform a simple
>ROM update on a router... a guy who has claimed *all* his psychiatrists
>and psychotherapists have given him a clean bill of mental health;)
>Certainly you can see the humor here, no?
Snit can be occasionally funny but his irritations outweigh the
occasional ha-ha he provides.
>
>> Somebody's got to be grownup enough to stop the cycle and it sure
>> isn't going to be Snit.
>
>I haven't posted here much lately... when I come back and see what's up,
>it's damn obvious "the cycle" goes on fine without me.
It gets a whole lot worse when you're running around tossing the big
juicy steaks that it likes to the beast.
Snit
>>> The problems isn't Snit. He's an immature lying twit and everyone
>>> knows it.
>>
>> Of course, but he doesn't think he is... that's where the comedy lives;)
>
> I'm not sure that you really understand the hows and whys of people
> like Snit.
> He knows he's wrong. He knows he's lying. He does that for the simple
> reason that its hard to get the kind of reaction that he wants by
> telling the truth and saying what is correct.
I welcome you to post some examples of these alleged "lies". By all means,
do try.
My guess: you will not. You have *no* examples.
>>> The problem is that you insist on giving him exactly what he
>>> wants.
>>
>> What I give him... I'm pretty sure he doesn't want.
>
> You're wrong. He doesn't care that you point out his lies.
Please point to examples of Steve pointing out any actual lie on my part.
Sure, he spews accusations, but he cannot and does not point to actual lies.
He does, occasionally, pick nits and miss the overall picture... but his
nits are sometimes correct. I will grant him that - in his obsession to get
revenge against me he does sometimes find nit picky errors in my comments.
> He already knew they were lies. He doesn't care that you call him 'gluehead'
> and the like. All he cares about is 'I made Steve Carroll think about me
> today'. That's it. That's all he's after. And you give it to him in spades.
> He's winning.
I would actually prefer is Steve were able to let go of his obsession. He
cannot, as shown by his lying about me in every one of his last 2000+ posts.
Really, have you *ever* seen anyone do that to anyone else in the history of
CSMA?
> The fact is that he's probably pulling it to this post since its all about him
> and he managed to make me think about him today. A friend of mine has a
> toddler. I went over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
> toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were watching the DVD
> her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit making him the center of attention
> and made that kid on the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv
> and tried to block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life.
Spewing insults about me does not make those insults become true. In the
end, Mayor, you have made accusations against me that you cannot and will
not support. You are lying. It really is that simple.
>>
>>> You're like the wife that keeps making beer runs for her
>>> alcoholic husband and then complains that he's drunk.
>>
>> LOL! I'm not complaining about Snit... I'm just pointing out realities
>> to him that he would prefer doesn't exist. C'mon... we're talking about
>> a guy who considers himself a hard working 'teacher'... who just happens
>> to post to usenet 24/7. This is a guy who tries to convince everyone he
>> knows all this shit about computers, yet, he couldn't perform a simple
>> ROM update on a router... a guy who has claimed *all* his psychiatrists
>> and psychotherapists have given him a clean bill of mental health;)
>> Certainly you can see the humor here, no?
>
> Snit can be occasionally funny but his irritations outweigh the
> occasional ha-ha he provides.
I do not doubt you find honor and honesty to be irritating.
>>> Somebody's got to be grownup enough to stop the cycle and it sure
>>> isn't going to be Snit.
>>
>> I haven't posted here much lately... when I come back and see what's up,
>> it's damn obvious "the cycle" goes on fine without me.
>
> It gets a whole lot worse when you're running around tossing the big
> juicy steaks that it likes to the beast.
Steve *is* the show. I occasionally throw him a bone or mention his antics,
but look at the number of posts he has spewed about me just in the last
month... he has lied about me no less than 130 times... in fact, he has done
so in his *every* post... this month... the month before... the month before
that... and before that... for many months now. I simply do not understand
the level of depravity and desperation that Carroll cannot help from
showing... though it is a step up from his spewing off about his infidelity
with his unmarried "wife", I suppose.
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