Re: wow
Peter Köhlmann
< Snot snip >
>>> I do teach people how to use computers
>>
>> Except as noted elsewhere, you don't teach them much about decision
>> making; you don't even seem to understand the difference between "I need
>> MS Office" and "I need an office suite", so how could you teach such a
>> simple, basic thing effectively - let alone anything more detailed?
>
> I am not interested in your theorizing nor your insults. I do welcome you
> to take one of my classes.
Well, theoretically you teach. In practice you troll. Exclusivly
Thsi naturally does not leave any time for "teaching". So your are an
unemployed (and unemployable) "teacher"
And /take/ any of *your* classes? I could not forget enough to qualify for
your level of "classes"
This would be true of almost anyone
< Snot snip >
> I am curious why you felt the need to dishonestly snip and pretend
> otherwise... or perhaps you just misunderstood what you read? Please
> explain.
>
Here we go again. Snot trying to establish another round of his Snot circus
Guys, just don't respond too much to this cretin. Talk *about* Snot, make
fun about this clueless dimwit, but please don't talk *to* Snot too much,
as he will fail every time to respond to challenges to his idiotic claims
and instead claim that *he* was trolled (and, naturally, insulted) and
tries to install his merry-go-round
--
Support your local Search and Rescue unit -- get lost.
Anonymous
"Peter Köhlmann" <peter.k...@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:ekd59q$bdk$01$1...@news.t-online.com...
Snit
ekd59q$bdk$01$1...@news.t-online.com on 11/26/06 3:44 PM:
You sure do anger easily... spewing your silly names, making absurd
accusations, and in general just making an ass out of yourself. I shall
remind you what made you sink to this - not because it will help you to
cease your trolling, I do not believe anything can - but so you can see how
pathetic you are.
FlatFish+++ stated:
-----
That's known as the distribution dance.
It's a well known excuse that the Linux advocates use to account for
Linux's problems.
The real problem is, if distribution 1 has problems with A but works
with B and C: Distribution 2 may work with A and have problems with B
and C.
It's a never ending quest for the perfect, or near perfect, distribution
which does not exist yet.
----
TheLetterK replied:
-----
Or they could just use distribution 3 that does A, B, and C well.
Perhaps they should have stated what they wanted to do and asked for
recommendations *before* making a blind guess.
-----
So I responded by doing as TLK suggested - I asked about a distro and named
my "A, B, and C"
-----
Say I want a Linux distro for an average user (someone with basic skills
such as how to work with the mouse and basic windowing skills) and they
want to be able to have:
* e-mail: should work well with attachments, including showing attached
images well, preferably with a slide show and the ability to send the
images to an image organization tool
* work with sound, images, movies, and the like to be able to build
movies, slideshows, playlists, etc. This should be in an integrated
system so the user should not have to worry about where resources are
saved.
* Not have to learn multiple save dialogs and otherwise have a
consistent interface (relatively speaking, need not be perfect)
* Surf the web with a browser with tabs, spell check, integrated search,
private browsing, and other common needs
* Not be subjected to obscure and arcane command line gobbledegook even
as it loads and shuts down (though this should be available for
troubleshooting)
* The user should be able to find computers running this OS in a local
store (in general) so they can test it before they commit
* Basic OS conventions should be met: program names visible and in a
consistent place, window titles not cut off by default, etc.
* There should be basic services such as spelling, search, address book,
image library with albums, music library with playlists, etc.
* I should run common commercial software such as MS Office and
Photoshop Elements without having to jump through hoops
-----
I did as requested... and watch how the Linux advocates react as they fail
to find a distro. I would have preferred if they *had* been able to point
me to one. It is a shame they cannot.
What is funny is some are claiming this shows I know Linux well enough to
know those things are not likely, and others claim this shows I do not know
Linux at all. Nobody, other than Kier, has been willing to stand up and
just admit that when "A, B, and C" are laid out that they cannot find a
distro to match the needs (though *some* can be met easily).
For the record: OS X meets those needs quite well.
--
€ The tilde in an OS X path does *not* mean "the hard drive only"
€ Things which are not the same are not "identical"
€ The word "ouch" is not a sure sign of agreement.
Peter Hayes
> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter.k...@t-online.de> stated in post
> ekd59q$bdk$01$1...@news.t-online.com on 11/26/06 3:44 PM:
>
>> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>>
>> < Snot snip >
<more snipped>
Peter K won't see your reply since he crossposted it to CSMA and set
followups to CSMA.
I'll let you decide if you wish to return the thread to COLA...
--
Peter
Edwin
For the record: it is quite evident that you carefully crafted your
requirements in a way that they could only be satisfied by Mac OS X.
Snit
1164671791....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com on 11/27/06 4:56 PM:
I "crafted" them to meet the needs of the users in question. And, yes, it
is likely that OS X meets those needs better than any distro of Linux... and
certain that it does a better job than Windows - at least XP. Likely Vista
as well, but that remains to be seen.
--
€ OS X is partially based on BSD (esp. FreeBSD)
€ OS X users are at far less risk of malware then are XP users
€ Photoshop is an image editing application
Peter Köhlmann
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:19:14 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>
>> Please stop trolling, Rick!
>
> Why don't you do likewise? You know perfectly well you're behaving just as
> badly as Rick.
>
Rick may be an obnoxious prick who can't stop responding
But he is nowhere near this cretin Michael Glasser, who misrepresents
constantly what others writes, never answers any questions and constantly
re-inserts his idiotic "requirements".
And when nobody bothers to answer that moron, starts to open new threads
with all the same idiocy all over again
--
For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat,
and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken
Rick
> Kier wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:19:14 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Please stop trolling, Rick!
>> Why don't you do likewise? You know perfectly well you're behaving just as
>> badly as Rick.
>>
>
> Rick may be an obnoxious prick who can't stop responding
>
--
Rick
Peter Köhlmann
> "cc" <scat...@hotmail.com> stated in post
> 1165001827.3...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com on 12/1/06 12:37 PM:
>
>>
>> Rick wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:46:52 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rick" <no...@trollfeed.com> stated in post
>>>> pan.2006.12.01....@trollfeed.com on 11/30/06 8:08 PM:
>>>>
>>>>>> The question is not about the quality of the image but the quality of
>>>>>> the image viewing experience. They are not the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> The quality of the experience of viewing images sent with an email is
>>>>> just fine in Linux based distros.
>>>>
>>>> It can be "just fine" without being as good as it is in OS X - and that
>>>> does appear to be the case.
>>>>
>>>> I have described to you the experience in OS X - the fact that you see
>>>> the images inline but *also* get the option to do a one click slide
>>>> show (with options) *and* you can send the images directly to the
>>>> primary image organization tool without having to worry about where the
>>>> files are saved (images are sent, from a user perspective, to a program
>>>> as opposed to being sent to a file).
>>>
>>> The quality of the experience of viewing images sent with an email is
>>> just fine in Linux based distros. If you think the experience is better
>>> in OS X, fine for you.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> These are things that offer real world value to the users in question
>>>> (and
>>>> others, for that matter). If there are features of Linux that would
>>>> offer areas of value that OS X lacks I would love to hear about them.
>>>
>>> You have been told areas of value that Linux based systems have. You
>>> dismiss them for various reasons.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the problems with Linux is even if there are such options - and
>>>> their may be - a user is likely stuck picking if they will use those
>>>> options *or* have a consistent interface... or pick the rest of their
>>>> software based on this one feature (which would be silly).
>>>
>>> .. if you dislike it so much, don't use it, and don't recommend it to
>>> others.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have reasonable contrary information I would love to hear it,
>>>> but your repeated whining, as you do below, is certainly *not* in that
>>>> category:
>>>
>>> It is NOT whining, you ass... the FILE is NOT "IN" the program.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> It does seem that some of the biggest Linux advocates simply do not
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> the concept of the user experience. I find that interesting.
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>> From the user perspective they are. And that is a huge benefit to
>>>>>> new and non-techy users.
>>>>>
>>>>> T h e f i l e i s n o t "i n" t h e p r o g r a m.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the user thinks that, he/she is wrong. Period.
>>>>
>>>> See... your comment is contrary but it is not reasonable...
>>>
>>> It is reasonable.
>>>
>>> Do you think it is reasonable for users to use CD r\trays as coffee
>>> holders, or to put sandwiches into VCRs?
>>
>> That is unrelated to a file being "in" the program. Does the sun rise
>> every morning or set every night? Not technically, but saying the sun
>> rose this morning at 6:30 doesn't make you wrong now does it? It's an
>> abstraction of what is really going on. Or do you say the earth rotated
>> to put the sun into view at 6:30 this morning?
>>
> The sad thing is the concept has been described to Rick in multiple ways,
> including with images... and he *still* does not get it.
>
> People, even experienced users, tend to think of their email being "In"
> their email program, even if they know the technical facts behind what is
> going on... you want email, you open your email program. The concept is
> not hard.
>
And "teachers" (like Snot claiming to be one) should at least try to use the
right nomenclature when talking to people who are not complete, utter
idiots (non OSX-users, that is)
After all, linux users tend to know the difference. OSX users certainly not
Even "experienced OSX users" are completely clueless, thanks to "IT
instructors" like Michael Glasser (Snot)
--
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
cc
What is the right nomenclature though? The file is in a folder? That's
not true either. All software is an abstraction of what is really going
on in the hardware. What's wrong with telling a user a file is in a
program if it helps them understand a little better?
Snit
Is *anyone* surprised that Peter is so ignorant and confused? Anyone?
Snit
>>>> That is unrelated to a file being "in" the program. Does the sun rise
>>>> every morning or set every night? Not technically, but saying the sun
>>>> rose this morning at 6:30 doesn't make you wrong now does it? It's an
>>>> abstraction of what is really going on. Or do you say the earth rotated
>>>> to put the sun into view at 6:30 this morning?
>>>>
>>> The sad thing is the concept has been described to Rick in multiple ways,
>>> including with images... and he *still* does not get it.
>>>
>>> People, even experienced users, tend to think of their email being "In"
>>> their email program, even if they know the technical facts behind what is
>>> going on... you want email, you open your email program. The concept is
>>> not hard.
>>>
>>
>> And "teachers" (like Snot claiming to be one) should at least try to use the
>> right nomenclature when talking to people who are not complete, utter
>> idiots (non OSX-users, that is)
>> After all, linux users tend to know the difference. OSX users certainly not
>>
>> Even "experienced OSX users" are completely clueless, thanks to "IT
>> instructors" like Michael Glasser (Snot)
>
> What is the right nomenclature though? The file is in a folder? That's
> not true either. All software is an abstraction of what is really going
> on in the hardware. What's wrong with telling a user a file is in a
> program if it helps them understand a little better?
Also note how Peter dishonestly pretends to know what I say in my classes,
how I explain things, etc. Heck, half the time he even lies and claims I am
not an instructor - but now he magically understands I am.
Can Peter *ever* be honest?
--
€ It is OK to email yourself files and store them there for a few weeks
€ No legislation supercedes the Constitution (unless it amends it)
€ Apple's video format is not far from NTSC DVD and good enough for most
Steve Carroll
Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
Here's a quote by a csma poster on the topic:
"We've been over this, Snit. If you're a teacher then I'm a Chinese
abacus repairman." - Mayor of R'lyeh
<g3pit156ec0b6olr4...@4ax.com>
--
Heck, OS X is not even partially based on FreeBSD - Snit
Sandman and Carroll are running around trying to crucify trolls
like myself - Snit
I am a bigger liar than Steve - Snit
Peter Köhlmann
Sure I know. You don't, because you are not a "teacher" of any sort
> Heck, half the time he even lies and claims I
> am not an instructor - but now he magically understands I am.
>
So "teacher" Snot has no idea about "sarcasm" too
How very surprising (NOT)
Instead he (again) misrepresents what others write
> Can Peter *ever* be honest?
More often honest than Snot? Easily. Just being honest *once* will fit the
bill quite nicely
--
Only two things are infinite,
the Universe and Stupidity.
And I'm not quite sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein
Mark Kent
Peter Köhlmann <peter.k...@t-online.de> espoused:
> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>
>> Can Peter *ever* be honest?
>
> More often honest than Snot? Easily. Just being honest *once* will fit the
> bill quite nicely
The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the same as it is with Mr
Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would be impossible to
determine where the honesty starts and the usual dishonesty ends. In my
primary school, one of the teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I
recall her going over the "cry wolf" story.
Mr Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to
help him with his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if
he's ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has.
--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
Ryan's Law:
Make three correct guesses consecutively
and you will establish yourself as an expert.
cc
Mark Kent wrote:
> begin oe_protect.scr
> Peter Köhlmann <peter.k...@t-online.de> espoused:
> > Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
> >
> >> Can Peter *ever* be honest?
> >
> > More often honest than Snot? Easily. Just being honest *once* will fit the
> > bill quite nicely
>
> The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the same as it is with Mr
> Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would be impossible to
> determine where the honesty starts and the usual dishonesty ends. In my
> primary school, one of the teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I
> recall her going over the "cry wolf" story.
>
> Mr Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to
> help him with his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if
> he's ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has.
Well I'm not sure about Snit, but in the case of Mr. Wong, I don't
think he's ever been dishonest. I don't think he'd cry wolf either,
he's smart enough to take care of his own problems. Besides I don't
know if anyone would want you running up to the wolf talking about
killfiles and asking it if it was paid by Microsoft.
Snit
I challenge Mark Kent to support his accusations against me. I bet he
cannot point to a single place where he really believes I have been
dishonest.
He will run from the request... since he cannot support his accusation.
This much is completely predictable.
--
€ Nuclear arms are arms
€ OS X's Command+Scroll wheel function does not exist in default XP
€ Technical competence and intelligence are not the same thing
Snit
>> Also note how Peter dishonestly pretends to know what I say in my classes,
>> how I explain things, etc.
>
> Sure I know. You don't, because you are not a "teacher" of any sort
I find it interesting how you spew such accusations to try to obfuscate your
own poor behavior.
Please note you will *never* support your claim, because it is clearly and
unambiguously a lie. That is right, Peter, you *are* a liar. There is no
doubt about that.
>> Heck, half the time he even lies and claims I
>> am not an instructor - but now he magically understands I am.
>
> So "teacher" Snot has no idea about "sarcasm" too
> How very surprising (NOT)
> Instead he (again) misrepresents what others write
>
>> Can Peter *ever* be honest?
>
> More often honest than Snot? Easily. Just being honest *once* will fit the
> bill quite nicely
Please note, Peter, that you will *never* support your claim about me not
being a teacher.
You can't.
You are a liar.
It is that simple.
Steve Carroll
Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
LOL! Snit... stuck in denial mode... how "completely predictable".
Mark Kent
Steve Carroll <no...@nowhere.net> espoused:
He's also stuck in my killfile, and for very good reason. I'll not
waste my time with people who cannot grasp the concept of honesty.
Hadron Quark
> begin oe_protect.scr
> Steve Carroll <no...@nowhere.net> espoused:
>> In article <C1972459.683A2%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>
>>> He will run from the request... since he cannot support his accusation.
>>> This much is completely predictable.
>>
>> LOL! Snit... stuck in denial mode... how "completely predictable".
>>
>
> He's also stuck in my killfile, and for very good reason. I'll not
> waste my time with people who cannot grasp the concept of honesty.
Mark Kent is one of the most conceited, arrogant self loving dickwads
ever to post to Usenet. How sad can you get?
"waste my time".
LOL. What a lightweight.
flatfish+++
I agree.
This group would make a great psychological study.
A person could track some of the advocates, say Mark Kent and Roy Culley,
from when they first started posting in COLA up until the present.
What they would find is that as they became more entrenched in Linux, they
also have become more paranoid, mean, strange and just plain anti-social.
Most of those guys started out as decent posters but have now become total
whack jobs.
The pattern is an obvious one to anyone who has been here for a few years
and it seems directly related to Linux advocacy gone wild.
Hey, what a great idea!!
You've heard of "Girls Gone Wild: videos?
How about "Linux Advocates Gone Wild" videos?
Nahhhh...there is nothing wild about compiling a kernel.
It's actually quite boring.
I sure hope COLA doesn't leak into their personal lives.
RonB
> I agree.
> This group would make a great psychological study.
And you'd be the star subject.
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Peter Köhlmann
> "ed" <e...@noreply.com> stated in post 20061205190151.6d28a7b8@ed-desktop on
> 12/5/06 12:11 PM:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:56:37 -0700
>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>
>>> "Mark Kent" <mark...@demon.co.uk> stated in post
>>> otke44-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk on 12/4/06 3:43 PM:
>>>
>>>> begin oe_protect.scr
>>>> ed <e...@noreply.com> espoused:
>>>>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:44:12 -0700
>>>>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to see more explanation of what he means, but if he
>>>> is in >> reference to Peter and Mark and the like, well, they are
>>>> clearly >> trolling, lying cretins. He reacts to them much the way
>>>> Kier reacts >> to him... in neither case do I think the other allows
>>>> for growth or >> change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look at me with the folks who troll me - while I comment on the
>>>>>> dishonesty of Carroll, Wally, Adams, and others I am open to them
>>>>>> changing. I would welcome it, though it would take a while for me
>>>> to >> trust (especially because I have been "burned" by them in the
>>>> past >> when they have claimed to change their ways and become honest
>>>> and >> honorable). I think it is a shame that folks hold on to
>>>> grudges year >> after year.
>>>>>
>>>>> stop stop stop... none shall pass without backing such statements
>>>> up > with reference material.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ed - don't waste bandwidth on him. He's lonely, needs attention.
>>>
>>> Funny how in my reply I offered to give extensive support... something
>>> you have failed to do every time I ask you to support your accusations
>>> against me.
>>
>> no you gave NO support. it's just accusations without any backup. it's
>> just a bunch of crap. it means nothing. it's got no prof. that's why i
>> didn't bother responding to your flaccid claim.
>>
> What claim of mine do you want support for?
>
All of them, naturally
You always only /offer/ to give support, and then nothing comes forward
Menwhile you could apologize to Rick for claiming *him* to be a liar when in
fact it was *you* being the liar
He truthfully said that *you* wrote that "the file is *in* the program"
Which is about the dumberst claim anyone doing "teaching" or being
an "instructor" could possibly do
--
Avoid reality at all costs.
Snit
>> What claim of mine do you want support for?
>>
>
> All of them, naturally
Such as? If you think I have failed to support a claim of mine, especially
an accusation, then select one. I have supported specific accusations
against you in the past, such as when I have shown that you act in a
juvenile way and alter people's online names and when you lied about posting
to CSMA. Both are very well supported... do you want me to repost the
evidence *again*?
One problem with trolls such as you is you repeatedly ask me to support my
claims *and* you whine that I post as much as I do. In other words there is
no pleasing you.
But, at your request, I shall happily do a bit of Googling and repost the
support of my claims of your lies and your immature behavior. Neither would
be hard to find.
>
> You always only /offer/ to give support, and then nothing comes forward
Example? What do you think I have not supported?
> Menwhile you could apologize to Rick for claiming *him* to be a liar when in
> fact it was *you* being the liar
> He truthfully said that *you* wrote that "the file is *in* the program"
He dishonestly, however, claimed I believed the metaphor was real.
Well, he think's the files he is working with are 'in' the program.
I have not stated that the files are *actually* in the program, only that
from that from the user perspective they "are". Then again, files are not
really "in" folders, either, though from the user perspective they are.
Note how you do not comment on the many, many lies of Rick's I pointed out.
Here is just a small sampling:
* Rick tries to dishonestly tie the concepts of CMYK to the concepts of
novice users: <pan.2006.11.29....@trollfeed.com> and again here:
<pan.2006.11.29....@trollfeed.com> where he also tries to
connect the concept of those same users with Dreamweaver, as though novice
users need Dreamweaver. He shows more of his misunderstanding here:
<12mrbhu...@news.supernews.com>
* In response to a quote about how people react to too many option and my
comments in relation to Linux, Rick went off topic, spewed comments about
Mac market share he imagined was a "dig", and then snipped and ran instead
of offering anything of value. This can be seen in these posts:
<pan.2006.11.26....@trollfeed.com>
<pan.2006.11.26....@trollfeed.com>
<pan.2006.11.26....@trollfeed.com>
<pan.2006.11.26....@trollfeed.com>
<pan.2006.11.26....@trollfeed.com>
<pan.2006.11.27....@trollfeed.com>
Heck, read the whole exchange between Rick and I in this very thread and you
can see me pointing out example after example of his lies, ignorance,
immature attempts at "digs" and even his stated wish that I die. One thread
and he does all of that.
Etc. Rick is, frankly, as useless of a troll as you are.
> Which is about the dumberst claim anyone doing "teaching" or being
> an "instructor" could possibly do
Yawn. You really should look online for some better material for your
trolling.
Peter Köhlmann
> "ed" <e...@noreply.com> stated in post 20061205203748.4c3e4dd4@ed-desktop on
> 12/5/06 1:40 PM:
>
>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:26:36 -0700
>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>
>>> "ed" <e...@noreply.com> stated in post
>>> 20061205200448.79c37be6@ed-desktop on 12/5/06 1:14 PM:
>>>
>>>>> What claim of mine do you want support for?
>>>>
>>>> the following would be a start
>>>
>>> Holy cow! Do you *really* need support for each of those? Most
>>> clearly go without saying... only a moron, or at best someone who is
>>> quite ignorant, would question them. Which ones do you not agree
>>> with?
>>
>> yes. provide proof of your claims or stop making accusations. simple. do
>> it, or apologise to those who you made claims against if you wise to try
>> regain credibility that is.
>
> Yawn. Seems you cannot find a single claim of mine, and certainly not an
> accusation, that you think is questionable.
>
Actually, most are at least "questionable"
Several are outright bullshit
> If you can think of one - one that you actually doubt or think needs
> support, point to it.
>
> One need not support the idea that 2+2=4.
>
If you claim so, one has to certainly. One has to haul out the calculator to
make yure that you did not make up your "facts" then
< snip ridicoulous Snot "facts" >
Now go search your "reasoned responses" elsewhere. May I suggest alt.test?
--
No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a
significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
Peter Köhlmann
< snip Snot idiocy >
>> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
>> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
>
> Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
> claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
>
Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
no support at all.
If you want to support your moronic claims, point us to third parties which
share your view on them. All other stuff you provide is simply meaningless
Got it, you dumb twit?
--
I say you need to visit Clues 'R' Us. They are having a special on
slightly used clues.
Snit
Your trolling is noted.
cc
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>
> < snip Snot idiocy >
>
> >> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
> >> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
> >
> > Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
> > claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
> >
>
> Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
> It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
> All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
> your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
> us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
> no support at all.
Wow, how many bullshit allegations have you made against me? You've
never offered any proof whatsoever, and when confronted on your bs, you
just back out of the thread. How can you of all people sit here and ask
for support?
> If you want to support your moronic claims, point us to third parties which
> share your view on them. All other stuff you provide is simply meaningless
>
> Got it, you dumb twit?
A dumb twit is someone who needs support to show that if A=B, B=A.
cc
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>
> < snip Snot idiocy >
>
> >> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
> >> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
> >
> > Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
> > claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
> >
>
> Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
> It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
> All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
> your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
> us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
> no support at all.
Wow, how many bullshit allegations have you made against me? You've
never offered any proof whatsoever, and when confronted on your bs, you
just back out of the thread. How can you of all people sit here and ask
for support?
> If you want to support your moronic claims, point us to third parties which
> share your view on them. All other stuff you provide is simply meaningless
>
> Got it, you dumb twit?
A dumb twit is someone who needs support to show that if A=B, B=A.
cc
> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>
> < snip Snot idiocy >
>
> >> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
> >> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
> >
> > Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
> > claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
> >
>
> Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
> It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
> All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
> your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
> us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
> no support at all.
Wow, how many bullshit allegations have you made against me? You've
never offered any proof whatsoever, and when confronted on your bs, you
just back out of the thread. How can you of all people sit here and ask
for support?
> If you want to support your moronic claims, point us to third parties which
> share your view on them. All other stuff you provide is simply meaningless
> Got it, you dumb twit?
A dumb twit is someone who needs support to show that if A=B, B=A.
Snit
>
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>>
>> < snip Snot idiocy >
>>
>>>> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
>>>> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
>>>
>>> Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
>>> claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
>>>
>>
>> Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
>> It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
>> All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
>> your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
>> us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
>> no support at all.
>
> Wow, how many bullshit allegations have you made against me? You've
> never offered any proof whatsoever, and when confronted on your bs, you
> just back out of the thread. How can you of all people sit here and ask
> for support?
Peter spews all sorts of name calling and accusations. When I have called
him on his lying I have offered support. Here are some examples from a past
post:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e2b73f16161543d7>
-----
Peter, please do not try to get me sucked back into your silly trolling BS.
The fact that you are an angry lying troll is no secret. Remember when you
used to deny posting to CSMA but the Google record proved you a liar:
<http://snipurl.com/huyx>
Message-ID: <BF4B0FD6.2DF9C%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
No "Followup-To" line
<http://snipurl.com/huyu>
Your response.
Message-ID: <dg4gec$lfr$02$1...@news.t-online.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Or remember when you made the asinine claim my offering multiple examples:
Message-Id: <pan.2005.07.10....@rapskat.com>
rapskat: Care to provide an example of this?
Message-ID: <BEF6E451.2383C%SN...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Snit: Sure. [two examples]
Message-ID: <das4vu$86q$02$1...@news.t-online.com>
Peter: So your defintion of "often" is "two"
My, what amusing lies you told with that little caper. Your method of
trolling is quite juvenile and pathetic. It really is not that hard to
point out your games and cause you to go running away from arguments. You
then resort to name calling, dishonestly snipping, etc. You are a pretty
typical troll... though you are more angry than most.
-----
>> If you want to support your moronic claims, point us to third parties which
>> share your view on them. All other stuff you provide is simply meaningless
>>
>> Got it, you dumb twit?
>
> A dumb twit is someone who needs support to show that if A=B, B=A.
And yet many in both CSMA and, now, COLA, not only claim they need support
for it, they *deny* it and claim they do not believe it is.
I believe this was added to the list when Tim Adams made the perverted claim
that he believed incest was "identical" to sex but then denied that sex,
based on his words, was "identical" to incest.
Of course, they are *not* identical, synonymous, things that equate, etc...
but there are perverts who claim they do.
Steve Carroll
Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
> "cc" <scat...@hotmail.com> stated in post
> 1165517674....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com on 12/7/06 11:54 AM:
>
> >
> > Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> >> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
> >>
> >> < snip Snot idiocy >
> >>
> >>>> post backup to ALL claims, or drop ALL claims. simple. regardless of
> >>>> what the claims are, back them up. or drop them.
> >>>
> >>> Yawn. Your trolling grows boring. Do admit you were lying when you
> >>> claimed to disagree with all of the points on my list?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Snot, what part of *backup* is too difficult for you?
> >> It means supply URLs, MsgIds etc etc which support your claims
> >> All you ever do is repeating your idotic bullshit. Nobody is interested in
> >> your dumb repeat runs. Supporting your claims does not mean that you refer
> >> us to *your* cretinous posts again and again. They constitue *absolutely*
> >> no support at all.
> >
> > Wow, how many bullshit allegations have you made against me? You've
> > never offered any proof whatsoever, and when confronted on your bs, you
> > just back out of the thread. How can you of all people sit here and ask
> > for support?
>
> Peter spews all sorts of name calling and accusations. When I have called
> him on his lying I have offered support. Here are some examples from a past
> post:
You mean an example of you being a hypocrite.
"I am not fond of "me too" posts" - Snit
Snit
> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>
> < Snot snip >
>
>>>> I do teach people how to use computers
>>>
>>> Except as noted elsewhere, you don't teach them much about decision
>>> making; you don't even seem to understand the difference between "I need
>>> MS Office" and "I need an office suite", so how could you teach such a
>>> simple, basic thing effectively - let alone anything more detailed?
>>
>> I am not interested in your theorizing nor your insults. I do welcome you
>> to take one of my classes.
>
> Well, theoretically you teach. In practice you troll. Exclusivly
> Thsi naturally does not leave any time for "teaching". So your are an
> unemployed (and unemployable) "teacher"
>
> And /take/ any of *your* classes? I could not forget enough to qualify for
> your level of "classes"
> This would be true of almost anyone
>
> < Snot snip >
>
>> I am curious why you felt the need to dishonestly snip and pretend
>> otherwise... or perhaps you just misunderstood what you read? Please
>> explain.
>>
>
> Here we go again. Snot trying to establish another round of his Snot circus
>
> Guys, just don't respond too much to this cretin. Talk *about* Snot, make
> fun about this clueless dimwit, but please don't talk *to* Snot too much,
> as he will fail every time to respond to challenges to his idiotic claims
> and instead claim that *he* was trolled (and, naturally, insulted) and
> tries to install his merry-go-round
You sure do anger easily... spewing your silly names, making absurd
accusations, and in general just making an ass out of yourself. I shall
remind you what made you sink to this - not because it will help you to
cease your trolling, I do not believe anything can - but so you can see how
pathetic you are.
FlatFish+++ stated:
-----
That's known as the distribution dance.
It's a well known excuse that the Linux advocates use to account for
Linux's problems.
The real problem is, if distribution 1 has problems with A but works
with B and C: Distribution 2 may work with A and have problems with B
and C.
It's a never ending quest for the perfect, or near perfect, distribution
which does not exist yet.
----
TheLetterK replied:
-----
Or they could just use distribution 3 that does A, B, and C well.
Perhaps they should have stated what they wanted to do and asked for
recommendations *before* making a blind guess.
-----
So I responded by doing as TLK suggested - I asked about a distro and named
my "A, B, and C"
-----
Say I want a Linux distro for an average user (someone with basic skills
such as how to work with the mouse and basic windowing skills) and they
want to be able to have:
* e-mail: should work well with attachments, including showing attached
images well, preferably with a slide show and the ability to send the
images to an image organization tool
* work with sound, images, movies, and the like to be able to build
movies, slideshows, playlists, etc. This should be in an integrated
system so the user should not have to worry about where resources are
saved.
* Not have to learn multiple save dialogs and otherwise have a
consistent interface (relatively speaking, need not be perfect)
* Surf the web with a browser with tabs, spell check, integrated search,
private browsing, and other common needs
* Not be subjected to obscure and arcane command line gobbledegook even
as it loads and shuts down (though this should be available for
troubleshooting)
* The user should be able to find computers running this OS in a local
store (in general) so they can test it before they commit
* Basic OS conventions should be met: program names visible and in a
consistent place, window titles not cut off by default, etc.
* There should be basic services such as spelling, search, address book,
image library with albums, music library with playlists, etc.
* I should run common commercial software such as MS Office and
Photoshop Elements without having to jump through hoops
-----
I did as requested... and watch how the Linux advocates react as they fail
to find a distro. I would have preferred if they *had* been able to point
me to one. It is a shame they cannot.
What is funny is some are claiming this shows I know Linux well enough to
know those things are not likely, and others claim this shows I do not know
Linux at all. Nobody, other than Kier, has been willing to stand up and
just admit that when "A, B, and C" are laid out that they cannot find a
distro to match the needs (though *some* can be met easily).
For the record: OS X meets those needs quite well.
Steve Carroll
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
"wow" is right.... you're obviously really jonesin' to post now that
only 2-3 people talk to you anymore... you're so hard up you're
responding to Köhlmann posts from 2006. LOL!
--
"Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is
clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much
just throw it away". - Snit
Snit
trollkiller-34DF...@newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/19/08 9:19 PM:
>>> Guys, just don't respond too much to this cretin. Talk *about* Snot, make
>>> fun about this clueless dimwit, but please don't talk *to* Snot too much,
>>> as he will fail every time to respond to challenges to his idiotic claims
>>> and instead claim that *he* was trolled (and, naturally, insulted) and
>>> tries to install his merry-go-round
>>
>> You sure do anger easily...
>
>
> "wow" is right.... you're obviously really jonesin' to post now that
> only 2-3 people talk to you anymore... you're so hard up you're
> responding to Köhlmann posts from 2006. LOL!
I posted these in response to comments of Peter's today. He accused me of
lying. I challenged him to post support... and showed I can easily support
the fact he is a liar.
Just like you!
--
"Innovation is not about saying yes to everything. It's about saying NO to
all but the most crucial features." -- Steve Jobs
Steve Carroll
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> "Steve Carroll" <troll...@TK.com> stated in post
> trollkiller-34DF...@newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/19/08 9:19 PM:
>
> >>> Guys, just don't respond too much to this cretin. Talk *about* Snot, make
> >>> fun about this clueless dimwit, but please don't talk *to* Snot too much,
> >>> as he will fail every time to respond to challenges to his idiotic claims
> >>> and instead claim that *he* was trolled (and, naturally, insulted) and
> >>> tries to install his merry-go-round
> >>
> >> You sure do anger easily...
> >
> >
> > "wow" is right.... you're obviously really jonesin' to post now that
> > only 2-3 people talk to you anymore... you're so hard up you're
> > responding to Köhlmann posts from 2006. LOL!
>
> I posted these in response to comments of Peter's today. He accused me of
> lying.
I've noticed you get that a lot.
Snit
> In article <C4808456.C19AD%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> "Steve Carroll" <troll...@TK.com> stated in post
>> trollkiller-34DF...@newsgroups.comcast.net on 6/19/08 9:19 PM:
>>
>>>>> Guys, just don't respond too much to this cretin. Talk *about* Snot, make
>>>>> fun about this clueless dimwit, but please don't talk *to* Snot too much,
>>>>> as he will fail every time to respond to challenges to his idiotic claims
>>>>> and instead claim that *he* was trolled (and, naturally, insulted) and
>>>>> tries to install his merry-go-round
>>>>
>>>> You sure do anger easily...
>>>
>>>
>>> "wow" is right.... you're obviously really jonesin' to post now that
>>> only 2-3 people talk to you anymore... you're so hard up you're
>>> responding to Köhlmann posts from 2006. LOL!
>>
>> I posted these in response to comments of Peter's today. He accused me of
>> lying.
>
> I've noticed you get that a lot.
I do piss off a lot of trolls such as you and Peter. Call it a public
service. :)
--
The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of
limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and
great nations. - David Friedman
Steve Carroll
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
Thanks for admitting to it. Maybe if you'd stop lying people wouldn't
point it out so often.