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Following are 132 poster accounts on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:

1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area and a
login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to e-mail it to you,
and a bot will send an e-mail. *That* is the e-mail Snit got from
Sandman's website, and yes he's that fucked in the head and starved for
attention that he'd claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So,
don't get sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this particular
instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7

2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour and
not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd leave too.
Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have
never made the same wish of him." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221

3- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth, you
are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the
newsgroup."

4- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to weasel
out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole." 25 Jun 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da

5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why not just
let them go away and show how responsible a member of CSMA you are? You
could show your enemies up by being better than then, rise above the low
level you so obviously dislike. Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5

6- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes, then
troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire, but
it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578

7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who
has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed it to be
wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and REALLY show you to be
a fool. You need to judiciously snip out pertinent points because you are
an intellectually dwarfed turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f

8- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group can be if
you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more people don't do the
same.." 5 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903

9- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but
since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything." 27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190

The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people
just can't stop feeding him."

10- °b° unny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually =:-("
9 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432

11- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."

12- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ... in the
groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the idiotrollers like snit
would reply to this thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts, only your
reply".

13- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so, for they
way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot, and
simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes. It's now far too late
to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5

14- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for you to
learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of course, that your
Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9

15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up months
old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just respond to a
current message." 22 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a

Snit: "And, yes, I know the facts will go over your head. You are an
insane moron... and you have nothing of value to say. Here: you will
prove it with your response and I will merely note you did so. 100%
predictable."
cc: "What facts? The fact that you don't know what a hypothetical
situation is? The fact that you can't answer any questions? The fact that
you continue to run away when faced with simple questions? I am 100%
predictable to you because you simply cannot understand what has been
placed in front of you. It's all just a jumble of words to your pea-sized
brain, and therefore it always looks the same." 15 Nov 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f6ce4429806e9de6

16- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to "win"
an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must you keep
this up? What results are you expecting?"

17- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The archives
show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep posting your
list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will not address it any
further- you being too stupid to realize and accept that is not my
problem". 22 Nov 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8

18- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread what
I had previously written. What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of reading into
things what you wanted people to have said instead of what they really
said.

I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look
foolish."

Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all of
them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many diverse
people who share a common perception where do you think the problem lies?
With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an
advanced degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b

19- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care to read] Snit,
please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but please,
please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290

20- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought you knew
what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was presented to
you. I guess I had too much confidence in you." 30 Nov 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f

21- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and loser
you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up
responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for the
magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness
when i stop responding to you. you almost always start responding back in
a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time.
i can only ask that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child
for having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if
your wife is a loser as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat
to be; if not, double condolences to her). " 30 Apr 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77

22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest and
honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the biggest liar
in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove Snit was using sock
puppets and he still is. Snit can not give up his socks puppets and
shills. They are the only ones who ever support him." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the worst
troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger, and you've
almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you to post a list of
out of context arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies
labled as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need to be
center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought it
would make people look at you." 18 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0

24- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see a
doctor." 24 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15

25- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points in
my post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode. How
childishly typical of you, Snit." 16 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5

26- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled since the
first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do like Snit'. As far as
I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist." 15 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0

27- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to
CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides the
typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like being in
a room of really young children trying there best to best the other
person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to
be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a
great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more
about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all this
picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al
little adversarial but you have personally crank it up to the point that
this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6

28- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who uncover his
lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are "proof".
LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d

29- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865

30- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy
with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any
cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into
submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to
hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will
only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd

31- gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com: "Hitting the vodka tonight Snit?" 4
Mar 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794

32- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else notices
that you are not honest and you have no honor." 21 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91

33- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate threads, are
you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont ever censor people
cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna have to cause
I dont wanna see your name 40 times in a row. So uh, change your client
or something". 12 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499

34- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your BS or
actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you keep asking for
and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel." 30 Jan
2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a

Snit: "Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question I just
asked. You will run... your whole goal is to beg for attention, not to
make or support a point."
Hadron: "nice. You made it into my new killfile. Jesus, stop repeating
the same garbage." 6 Apr 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728

35- Henry Flam: "Who gives a damn about this shit? Snit, once in a while,
I make the mistake in thinking that that you are starting to make sense
in your posts; I tend to agree with your politics. Then you post stuff
like this and it destroys any respect that I have for you." 16 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f048bedfe0d67d66

Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must a deeply trouble individual who
has a fragile ego. I needn't agree nor disagree with the points above. I
don't care about them. Your constant complaints, whines, rages, etc.,
wars with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as trolls, arise
from your sense that any conversation or thread must orbit around you.
People have pointed that out to you but you don't accept that. Snit I
feel sorry for you. Please go and see a doctor about your solipsism.
There must be a cure for you deep psychological travail." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8

36- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"

37- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the definition of
"synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example of how you attempt to
maliciously debase against anyone who disagrees with you. As such, I
consider this to be a purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me. This
is your only warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the
reminder that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a

38- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick and tired
of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly statements shifting the
goal posts, your continuous rambling drivel of how everyone seems to be
against you. No one cares a wooden nickel about your incessant flame
wars that are self created. You pretend to be an advocate but you manage
to cause everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f

Only once in a blue moon does he have anything worth reading. I just got
through his circus of repetitive ad hominem crap. I am surprised that
with the stunts he has pulled in COLA and this newsgroup, that he hasn't
suffered a worse fate in real life. If he hasn't, one of these days he
will pull that stunt on the wrong person, and *B-O-O-M-!*, someone will
pull the trigger. One ought to really pity him (or as Steve Travis
stated, "Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more happy glue
(and the appropriate plastic bags)." 8 Jul 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2666237bba82b97a

39- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine, posting
the same following message over and over, in false pretense as a Linux
advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least. I don't
mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious when I say
'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill, and needs help. I
was going to suggest that someone alerts his wife to the problem, but I
have to assume she's already aware of his condition, if she is in fact
still living with him. It's possible, I suppose, that he's already
undergoing counselling and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't
seem to be helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8

40- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting to CSMA for a
long time now, since 1995 at least. There have always been trolls and
morons, but I've never seen anything quite so disruptive as the Snit
circus. Snit will *never* back down or stop, and neither will most of his
opponents. A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb

hophead: "It's best to killfile snit, and if you can, set up a filter to
kill any responses to snit. Or (as I've been forced to do) killfile
those who insist on responding to him. Yes, you do miss some advocacy
from some of those people, but the joy of not seeing snit or any
responses to him far outweighs the cost. Of course, snit also uses
sockpuppets. They are pretty easy to identify fortunately and are easily
killed as well." 19 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d0cb5d4f4d1cba91

41- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to offer
support for your statements, you're reduced to personal attacks on me.
Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see that I have offered no
straw men, and have only asked you to explain how the things you state as
facts can be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this attitude, the
topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have some insights.
I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was just
repeated." 6 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6

42- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh
your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over. Either
you're a super troll, or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0

43- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."

44- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git." 23 Dec
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d

45- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me achieve
a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those
kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this." 18 Nov
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862

46- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you accomplishing
besides being annoying? Is that your goal?" 25 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243

47- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush mentioned in it?
You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on topic and not hijack threads."

48- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in
seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT
things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead and
stop this crap. Try. How about it?" 25 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b

49- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than
actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I suppose."

"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce evidence for his
claims. At least come up with some original insults Snit! I mean, you
*are* capable of original thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44

50- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall -
in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at
passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7

51- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are you
bitching about?"

52- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like a
black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain an
unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up? Please??"
11 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121

53- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I just
consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name." 7 Jan
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2

54- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be shocked that
he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about being a computer
repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and best ignored. Let him
deal with his disorder by medication. He's here to do one thing, get
attention from people. He says the crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what he's
counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes to get a rise out
of people like you. Ignore him, you won't regret it." 3 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314

"Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without adding drinking booze
to the list. How the hell did you manage to get out of my killfile? Oh
well back into the cage you go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8

55- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this posting?
Because I certainly cannot find it."

56- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that even though
the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll of the lot is mostly
being ignored by readers on this bb. If the few stragglers that keep
replying to him would just stop responding to Snit at all this place
could be worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll pack up and
take his trolling to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4

57- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your sentence with
"Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.' 29 Oct 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8

58- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother reading
the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of putrid
excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your position,
instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, hoping it'll
all go away." 7 Mar 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a

59- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad hominem
attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks. You
make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You're a
liar and a hypocrite and you always have been." 14 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee

60- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f

61- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long time, but
the few times you post something worth reading just aren't worth it
anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83

62- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been an
annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense of
trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is trashtalk
about Linux and you acting every bit the troll." 16 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f

63-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors CBS News
and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit is cornered, he
changes the subject and will never admit he's wrong." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf

64- libsnightmare:
Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He never
flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like "Kerry and all
the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has resorted to fifth grade
tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to edit posts and
post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie. Once again, you have
proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4 May 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e

65- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."

"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by that effete
candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574

66- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most cretinous, I
would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)" 18 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6

67- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the
same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would be
impossible to determine where the honesty starts and the usual dishonesty
ends. In my primary school, one of the teachers was very keen on
proverbs, and I recall her going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser
could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to help him with
his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if he's ever
telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3

68- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it to this
post since its all about him and he managed to make me think about him
today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her house and
videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then burned a DVD
of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad
because we quit making him the center of attention and made that kid on
the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life." 30 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b

69- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone refutes your
'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting your 'facts' is easily
done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it." 9 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32

70- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I see you
doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with everyone. You're the
TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a compliment!" 8 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd

71- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I can
only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to
inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged you
actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional
help."

"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot made no
threat to you before you went to the police. She made a promise.
Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out paranoiac view point, Elizabot
was suddenly "threatening" to you. In so much as you had to take your
kooky self down to your local police shop and blub on their shoulders
about how much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they had to waste
valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity. I bet they have
Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of your profile, Snit." 2 Sep
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40

72- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious. Treat
him the same way, look but just keep moving on." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07

73- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they are off-
topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring and clearly show
that you are crying out for attention." 20 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80

74- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact that your
obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you claimed to KF him.
Killfilling someone generally implies you're ignoring that person, yet
you piggyback onto virtually every reply to him here and and check his
website's validation status more often than most people check their e-
mail. These are not the actions of a mentally balanced individual." 19
Jan 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b

75- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two
about social behavior." 16 May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4

76- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are
trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me." 24 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad9daff74ee1e0bd

Muahman: "LOL, everyone hates Snit. I know I'd push him in front of a bus
if I could." 15 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e5ee46bf5bf04d00

Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit retard circus!!! I
actually dread seeing Snit reply to a thread because that automatically
means it's in the toilet." 8 Jul 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701

77- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced that
snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly am
now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?" 29 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508

78- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry sense of
humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just a waste of time,
and you've done more than anybody to make this group a cesspool. Then you
revel in wallowing in your own filth." 14 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274

79- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling as
children in the back seat of the family car saying:
Mom, 'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do now ...
I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is that by now you
should've grown out of that type of poke and complain interaction with
others. But, of course, you've haven't learned how to interact with
others in a more 'constructive' and mutually beneficial manner even
now." 03 Jul 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4

80- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I killfiled
him?" 27 Nov 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257

81- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and desire
to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of things." 2 Oct
2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e

82- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending Author,
example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill this Author' Click
'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice. Then to see
your work... Choose the Filter Menu again, Then 'Refilter Articles'...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!" 14
Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec

83- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that matter, Snit, for
whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769

84- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> "

85- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone who
talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable" you appear to
be the least honest and honorable of anyone here." 22 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4

86- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher
but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten seconds
later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c

87- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take your
argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77

88- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and someti...
err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon he has something
useful to say."

89- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has told
me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."

90- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as
dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma posters
even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There are certainly
other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no others are so intent on
trolling in whatever way possible as Snot" 15 Mar 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3409d9582dcebd25

91- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu".

92- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get superficial
snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions." 1 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277

93- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long standing
war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you single out
persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously berate them
with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses,
which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things,
your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is
what convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d

94- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."

95- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash
people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous
situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going
on." 06 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b

96- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a troll.
I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he
is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92

97- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you quote
Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the shell of
a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk of looking
ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If that's your goal,
you're on the right track, and more power to you." 11 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d

98- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's thing is
twisting your words so he can win an argument against a straw man. That's
enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42

99- Rotten Apple:
Snit: "The truth? Carroll has openly admitted he does what he accuses
others of... now there is evidence he is committing identity theft - the
very thing he accuses me of based on his claiming I am not the person he
has tracked me down to be."
Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir boys." 14 Sep 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb

Snit: "No need for him to worry - unlike him, I would not even threaten
to contact his wife. I simply will not sink to his level. I suspect his
wife will find out anyway - people are not as stupid as he wants them to
be."
Rotten Apple: "Your meds are really kicking your ass!" 15 Sep 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5e414c27d6357a4a

100- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to generate
a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it can
help you and your supposed users why aren't you requesting help from a
more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old saying
goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts seem to confirm
that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08

101- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless. You
must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much as you."
29 Dec 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d

102- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY- of
csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news group
before. He has the ability to turn just about any person against him in
just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part
with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a
troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are
wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour." 18 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2

103- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly, even
the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense than
this. You been doing drugs or something?" 25 May 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370

104- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to
remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1

105- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts trash just
to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1

106- spike1: "The thought is probably to show everyone here just how bad
a troll snit is".

107- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing anger,
i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks
he's making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's pretty
smart. indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and the iq
tests and he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."
3 Mar 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7f9fa1cf90490298

108- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that he
has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll(or worse) by the vast majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."

109- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of elephant
dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the "Snit Circus",
but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like
elephant dung." 18 Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9fc11094133dfcdf

Welcome to the Snit circus, where the popcorn and cotton candy are stale,
and the smell of elephant dung is everywhere. 27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/614daf295b50413f

110- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility with me
for your rediculous argument regarding this." 26 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c8777d39c34e293

111- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost
all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'asses'
when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally superior snit have
fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule to feel
embarassed for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more
happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)." 27 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3edd9ab69425a6c5

112- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him then. A
snit is a snit is a snit and always will be." 15 Aug 2006 (post not
available except in reply)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b382420a696f140

113- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): "In other words, in another attempt to troll,
you made yourself look like a fool. Again". 28 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b2676d3540e09f38

114- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my killbin, I
can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322

115- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're the one
lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically amount to "I'm
right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples someone points at to
demonstrate their claim, you blindly continue to insist that they provide
no evidence, or that the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still, you
fall back on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the
argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that inhabit
CSMA, Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than you are." 23
Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d488596b57132124

116- Thufir: "It's based on *your* MO that I, at least, have no problem
in stating that you're full of shit on nearly any topic. I've observed
your bullshit, and based on that pattern of bullshit, infer that you're
full of it. Your MO is the evidence, the logic is an inference based on
the evidence." 21 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c89d3cf79e806e5f

Thufir: "You can "prove" that no one has disproved your "proof"? Again,
your assertion that no one has done so is even *less* convincing than
your claim that some PDF "proves" whatever point you're trying to make
precisely because I'm familiar with your MO. That is, you're a dumb-ass
who would claim that that something is proved when it's not, and who
would ignore counter-examples disproving your contention. I don't know
what this *ages old* thread is about, but I know that you're full of
shit." 21 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5114623055c01092

117-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see, you
never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just the
other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in this
NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar." 13 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a

118- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more compassion.
Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor sick fool can
get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to hanging out with and
supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one likes
him and those that pretend they do are just using him or don't know him -
but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some compassion, eh? All
these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are
all so alike. I pity each and every one of them" 19 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/67f0f174110bfa0a

119- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you could
actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here." 14 Apr
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6e3cfd9240ac4871

120- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"

121- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one of
your Circus acts?" 20 Feb 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/25f0e481b605e71f

122- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was: Stop
polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive "writings". You
give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your goal you have succeeded!
That also goes for all that bullshit on your website" 11 Jun 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/03610d2080321d33

123- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit. Most
people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict their
responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'. Just what
would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must be some
kind of severe mental illness." 17 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/45197fbb46d491df

124- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are
nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to define
the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the rules
when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I doubt
anyone would be foolish enough to play your game." 16 May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9b3ed1ee20e5220

125- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home more than
he's anywhere near a classroom".

126- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental breakdown
it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser. What a f#cked up
mess he is." 29 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/914d1e74855fb461

127- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my sincere
apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're the first person
to be plonked from my new computer! :-) " 10 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/313c7368f6369c49

128- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"

129- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of posts, to
prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like that to people
without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in the record. Ping Snit
to do a search - you will flatter him, and give meaning to his tawdry
little life." 25 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538

130- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global killfile.
No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye". 11 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12f7c34f24d43624

131- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw more
people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve/Elizabot/etc'
tactic is fairly trollish."

132- Mutley (AUK):
Snit: "None are supportable. None are real. HPT made them up and is
scared to even try to support them. He knows he cannot. He knows his lies
are being shoved in his face and that people are laughing at his failure.
I know I am. He is a sad pathetic little man."
Mutley: "For the record ... I'll be done when I decide that there's more
shit on your face than there is on the sole of my shoe." 01 Nov 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b

Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:59:34 AM11/29/09
to
Soutien du Mod�rateur <Soutiendu...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Following are 132 poster accounts on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:


And that's supposed to convince someone that they are the good guys?
Please. I'll take one decent poster like Snit over a thousand idiot
trolls, any day.

--
Joel Crump

High Plains Thumper

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Nov 29, 2009, 6:13:03 AM11/29/09
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Joel wrote:

> Soutien du Mod�rateur wrote:
>
>> Following are 132 poster accounts on the Snit Circus of
>> Pathological Lies:
>
> And that's supposed to convince someone that they are the good guys?
> Please. I'll take one decent poster like Snit over a thousand idiot
> trolls, any day.

Hello, Snit!

--
HPT

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:13:48 AM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post od34h51bh10kuo9qt...@4ax.com on 11/28/09
10:59 PM:

Carroll and Sandman have been compiling and forging derogatory quotes about
me since 2004. Since they cannot quote me actually doing what they accuse
me of, they pretend that "eye witness" accounts - many of them obvious socks
- mean something.

I collected quotes about Steve for one month... and there were dozens.
Steve and the "clique", of course, pretend those do not mean anything...
just more of their desperate double standards.

They do not understand how they prove themselves to be liars every day - no
need to dig back half a decade.


--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]


Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:41:13 AM11/29/09
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It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not bother to
verify my identity, we get it. Pussy.

--
Joel Crump

Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:41:25 AM11/29/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>Carroll and Sandman have been compiling and forging derogatory quotes about
>me since 2004. Since they cannot quote me actually doing what they accuse
>me of, they pretend that "eye witness" accounts - many of them obvious socks
>- mean something.
>
>I collected quotes about Steve for one month... and there were dozens.
>Steve and the "clique", of course, pretend those do not mean anything...
>just more of their desperate double standards.
>
>They do not understand how they prove themselves to be liars every day - no
>need to dig back half a decade.


It's very clear that your enemies have nothing useful to contribute.

--
Joel Crump

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:01:46 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post b195h5dfnh64nq3hc...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
9:41 AM:

When I note that Steve's obsession with alleged wrongs from 2004 is, well, a
but insane, he babbles about how I must mean there is some time limit on my
alleged wrongs... as if I was as he claims he would have to dig back that
far! They repeatedly and show their current behavior to be deplorable...
but somehow that does not count with their silly tracking of bad behavior.

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:03:00 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post p095h5thefgh3uq9a...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
9:41 AM:

> High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Welcome to CSMA... anytime someone makes sense and is honest they are
accused of being me.

Says little for the faith those who make the accusation have in people -
they think I am the person in the world who can be sensible and honest.


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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:52:33 PM11/29/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not bother to
>> verify my identity, we get it. Pussy.
>
>Welcome to CSMA... anytime someone makes sense and is honest they are
>accused of being me.
>
>Says little for the faith those who make the accusation have in people -
>they think I am the person in the world who can be sensible and honest.


Good point. ;)

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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:52:58 PM11/29/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> It's very clear that your enemies have nothing useful to contribute.
>
>When I note that Steve's obsession with alleged wrongs from 2004 is, well, a
>but insane, he babbles about how I must mean there is some time limit on my
>alleged wrongs... as if I was as he claims he would have to dig back that
>far! They repeatedly and show their current behavior to be deplorable...
>but somehow that does not count with their silly tracking of bad behavior.


Moreover, you've clearly shown that they were the ones causing the
trouble, back then, as well. It doesn't take long to see that there
are some people who have a strange preoccupation with you, and not
much longer to see why - you expose them, and like so many bottom
feeders, they can't stand when someone calls them on their crap.

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Fa-groon

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Nov 29, 2009, 3:57:05 PM11/29/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:41:25 -0800, Joel wrote
(in article <b195h5dfnh64nq3hc...@4ax.com>):

But, his enemies are legion. You must admit, there has to be a rational
explanation for THAT. Keep in mind, Joel, that most people who post here have
Snit/Michael Glasser kill-filed and won't read his posts or respond to him AT
ALL. Those masochists among us who, for some bizarre and unfathomable reason,
still engage with Snit and argue with him endlessly over nothing important,
have all but destroyed this NG and have probably sent many people packing.
Those 100-or-so quotes that somebody repeatedly posts here from posters past
and present about how reviled Snit is, are, I suspect, just the tip of the
iceberg. Snit seems to be universally loathed and despised. This universal
loathing seems to cross all social, political, and platform boundries. A
Mac-loving Liberal college student is just as likely to revile Snit as a
PC-loving, right-wing, septuagenarian.

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 4:34:50 PM11/29/09
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Fa-groon stated in post 0001HW.C7382021...@news.giganews.com on
11/29/09 1:57 PM:

> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:41:25 -0800, Joel wrote
> (in article <b195h5dfnh64nq3hc...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Carroll and Sandman have been compiling and forging derogatory quotes about
>>> me since 2004. Since they cannot quote me actually doing what they accuse
>>> me of, they pretend that "eye witness" accounts - many of them obvious socks
>>> - mean something.
>>>
>>> I collected quotes about Steve for one month... and there were dozens.
>>> Steve and the "clique", of course, pretend those do not mean anything...
>>> just more of their desperate double standards.
>>>
>>> They do not understand how they prove themselves to be liars every day - no
>>> need to dig back half a decade.
>>
>>
>> It's very clear that your enemies have nothing useful to contribute.
>
> But, his enemies are legion. You must admit, there has to be a rational
> explanation for THAT.

He has:

you expose them, and like so many bottom feeders, they can't
stand when someone calls them on their crap.

Yup... the bottom feeders like to lick my bottom. :)

> Keep in mind, Joel, that most people who post here have Snit/Michael Glasser
> kill-filed and won't read his posts or respond to him AT ALL.

Yet I get so many responses from so many people. How do you explain that?

> Those masochists among us who, for some bizarre and unfathomable reason, still
> engage with Snit and argue with him endlessly over nothing important, have all
> but destroyed this NG and have probably sent many people packing. Those
> 100-or-so quotes that somebody repeatedly posts here from posters past and
> present about how reviled Snit is, are, I suspect, just the tip of the
> iceberg.

Yes: obsessively collecting and dishonestly fabricating quotes is just the
tip of the iceberg of the idiotic attacks the "bottom feeders" have made.
They have contacted family members and my employer, have threatened to get
me fired - even if they have to "twist arms" to do so, have accused me of
contacting their family members, have claimed I have called them directly,
have seeded Google with my business name and their trolling to try to hurt
my professional reputation, they have accused me of sexual harassment and
even of rape. Really - the dishonest quoting is merely a very, very small
tip to the iceberg.

> Snit seems to be universally loathed and despised. This universal loathing
> seems to cross all social, political, and platform boundries. A Mac-loving
> Liberal college student is just as likely to revile Snit as a PC-loving,
> right-wing, septuagenarian.

Did you need to take of Steve's shoes to collect those opinions? :)

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Nov 29, 2009, 4:42:55 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post 37d5h59opifk4s646...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
10:52 AM:

Wait until Steve gets onto one of his Bush kicks and tries to explain why if
I cannot prove Bush is guilty then this means my argument has been refuted,
even though the support I showed was so strong he could not counter it with
anything approaching reason. It is rather funny to listen to him.


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Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 4:43:36 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post p6d5h55fgqti2t978...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
10:52 AM:

> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

How long did it take for someone to accuse you of being my sock? Two posts?
Five? Not much more I do not believe.


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Wally

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Nov 29, 2009, 6:30:23 PM11/29/09
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On 30/11/09 12:41 AM, in article p095h5thefgh3uq9a...@4ax.com,
"Joel" <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Says the self acclaimed "pussy" that will not support his claims wrt the
identity of the poster "Steve Carroll's Dog"! LOL

> we get it. Pussy.

How do you know Snit 'gets it'?

Oooooooooooooops!

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 7:03:24 PM11/29/09
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Wally stated in post C739250F.296A%Wa...@wallyworld.net on 11/29/09 4:30 PM:

You are really getting more pathetic by the minute - all because you know
Carroll forged text and then absurdly blamed his dog. Oh well...


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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:15:44 PM11/29/09
to
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>How long did it take for someone to accuse you of being my sock? Two posts?
>Five? Not much more I do not believe.


About that, I think.

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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:16:14 PM11/29/09
to
Wally <Wa...@wallyworld.net> wrote:

>> It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not bother to
>> verify my identity,
>
>Says the self acclaimed "pussy" that will not support his claims wrt the
>identity of the poster "Steve Carroll's Dog"! LOL
>
>> we get it. Pussy.
>
>How do you know Snit 'gets it'?
>
>Oooooooooooooops!


Who cares about anything you say?

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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:16:58 PM11/29/09
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Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:

>But, his enemies are legion. You must admit, there has to be a rational
>explanation for THAT. Keep in mind, Joel, that most people who post here have
>Snit/Michael Glasser kill-filed and won't read his posts or respond to him AT
>ALL. Those masochists among us who, for some bizarre and unfathomable reason,
>still engage with Snit and argue with him endlessly over nothing important,
>have all but destroyed this NG and have probably sent many people packing.
>Those 100-or-so quotes that somebody repeatedly posts here from posters past
>and present about how reviled Snit is, are, I suspect, just the tip of the
>iceberg. Snit seems to be universally loathed and despised. This universal
>loathing seems to cross all social, political, and platform boundries. A
>Mac-loving Liberal college student is just as likely to revile Snit as a
>PC-loving, right-wing, septuagenarian.


I don't dispute that he seems to be *relatively* unpopular, but I have
yet to see a reason to join that fray. I like Snit, and he's been
cool to me. I make my own judgments.

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Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:22:05 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post 0776h5to8alo82inv...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
6:16 PM:

Frankly I do not see life as a popularity contest where the goal is to be
accepted by coalitions in a Usenet group. Not sure why so many *clearly*
have this as a goal, above being honest and true to themselves. Look for
any example of my "enemies" disagreeing with each other... they simply look
for positions of power. It is like they think they can vote someone off the
island and win a prize. :)


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Chance Furlong

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:25:46 PM11/29/09
to
In article <2676h5p4k58nsfkck...@4ax.com>,
Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wally <Wa...@wallyworld.net> wrote:
>
> >> It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not bother to
> >> verify my identity,
> >
> >Says the self acclaimed "pussy" that will not support his claims wrt the
> >identity of the poster "Steve Carroll's Dog!"
> >

> >> We get it, pussy.
> >
> >How do you know Snit 'gets it?'


> >
> >Oooooooooooooops!
>
> Who cares about anything you say?

You care, otherwise you would not have replied.

Chance Furlong

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:27:57 PM11/29/09
to
In article <0776h5to8alo82inv...@4ax.com>,
Joel <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I like Snit, and he's been cool to me. I make my own judgments.

How "cool" has Snit been to you? No wonder you like him.

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:32:49 PM11/29/09
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Chance Furlong stated in post T-Bone-EAF5A8....@news.giganews.com
on 11/29/09 6:25 PM:

Why cares?


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Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:33:07 PM11/29/09
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Chance Furlong stated in post T-Bone-C76C25....@news.giganews.com
on 11/29/09 6:27 PM:

I have been kind to him, as I am kind to everyone.


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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:01:24 PM11/29/09
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Chance Furlong <T-B...@megakatcity.com> wrote:

>> Who cares about anything you say?
>
>You care, otherwise you would not have replied.


You can't see any other logical reasoning, eh?

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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:02:08 PM11/29/09
to
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> I don't dispute that he seems to be *relatively* unpopular, but I have
>> yet to see a reason to join that fray. I like Snit, and he's been
>> cool to me. I make my own judgments.
>
>Frankly I do not see life as a popularity contest where the goal is to be
>accepted by coalitions in a Usenet group. Not sure why so many *clearly*
>have this as a goal, above being honest and true to themselves. Look for
>any example of my "enemies" disagreeing with each other... they simply look
>for positions of power. It is like they think they can vote someone off the
>island and win a prize. :)


Exactly. I've judged you based on *your* posts/emails, not what third
parties think of you.

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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:02:14 PM11/29/09
to
Chance Furlong <T-B...@megakatcity.com> wrote:

>> I like Snit, and he's been cool to me. I make my own judgments.
>
>How "cool" has Snit been to you? No wonder you like him.


I'm not sure what you're implying.

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Fa-groon

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:08:52 PM11/29/09
to
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:16:58 -0800, Joel wrote
(in article <0776h5to8alo82inv...@4ax.com>):

I have no intention of trying to change your mind about anything. I just
thought I'd enlighten you about the universality of the dislike for Snit that
pervades this NG. If you like him, fine (I guess somebody has to), but those
who DON'T like him have very good reason for their dislike of the man. Unless
you are a Snit sockpuppet (a possibility which I do not discount), if you
stay here long enough, you'll end-up hating him too. It's as inevitable as
the sunrise tomorrow morning.

Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:43:15 PM11/29/09
to
Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:

>I have no intention of trying to change your mind about anything. I just
>thought I'd enlighten you about the universality of the dislike for Snit that
>pervades this NG. If you like him, fine (I guess somebody has to), but those
>who DON'T like him have very good reason for their dislike of the man. Unless
>you are a Snit sockpuppet (a possibility which I do not discount), if you
>stay here long enough, you'll end-up hating him too. It's as inevitable as
>the sunrise tomorrow morning.


Hmm. Well, I'm not him, and I guess we will see.

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Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:46:15 PM11/29/09
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Fa-groon stated in post 0001HW.C7386934...@news.giganews.com on
11/29/09 7:08 PM:

> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:16:58 -0800, Joel wrote


> (in article <0776h5to8alo82inv...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But, his enemies are legion. You must admit, there has to be a rational
>>> explanation for THAT. Keep in mind, Joel, that most people who post here
>>> have Snit/Michael Glasser kill-filed and won't read his posts or respond to
>>> him AT ALL. Those masochists among us who, for some bizarre and unfathomable
>>> reason, still engage with Snit and argue with him endlessly over nothing
>>> important, have all but destroyed this NG and have probably sent many people
>>> packing. Those 100-or-so quotes that somebody repeatedly posts here from
>>> posters past and present about how reviled Snit is, are, I suspect, just the
>>> tip of the iceberg. Snit seems to be universally loathed and despised. This
>>> universal loathing seems to cross all social, political, and platform
>>> boundries. A Mac-loving Liberal college student is just as likely to revile
>>> Snit as a PC-loving, right-wing, septuagenarian.
>>
>>
>> I don't dispute that he seems to be *relatively* unpopular, but I have
>> yet to see a reason to join that fray. I like Snit, and he's been
>> cool to me. I make my own judgments.
>>
>>
>
> I have no intention of trying to change your mind about anything. I just
> thought I'd enlighten you about the universality of the dislike for Snit that
> pervades this NG. If you like him, fine (I guess somebody has to), but those
> who DON'T like him have very good reason for their dislike of the man.

If "they" did, don't you think "they" would be able to point to the posts /
quote me doing something worthy of "dislike"?

> Unless you are a Snit sockpuppet (a possibility which I do not discount), if
> you stay here long enough, you'll end-up hating him too. It's as inevitable as
> the sunrise tomorrow morning.

You hate me? Curious. What is your reason - please be specific.

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Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:48:16 PM11/29/09
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Joel stated in post lr96h59orqfhld3dq...@4ax.com on 11/29/09
7:02 PM:

That is how I, hopefully, treat you and others. Heck, I even limit it, for
the most part, to people's recent posts. If, for example, those who were
lying about me now and trolling me now were to just stop, let bygones be
bygones.


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Joel

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:39:34 PM11/29/09
to
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>That is how I, hopefully, treat you and others. Heck, I even limit it, for
>the most part, to people's recent posts. If, for example, those who were
>lying about me now and trolling me now were to just stop, let bygones be
>bygones.


I agree.

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Chance Furlong

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:40:02 PM11/29/09
to
In article <C7386ED1.56768%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Who cares?

You also care, otherwise you would not have replied and begged for my
attention.

Snit

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:40:33 PM11/29/09
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Chance Furlong stated in post T-Bone-B5720F....@news.giganews.com
on 11/29/09 9:40 PM:

So you say. But who cares?


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Chance Furlong

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Nov 30, 2009, 1:24:08 AM11/30/09
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Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:32:44 AM11/30/09
to
On Nov 29, 6:16 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah... posters here have seen you 'judge' Apple's business model as
compared to MS's ;)

Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:38:26 AM11/30/09
to


Ask Snit about his "posts" where he's forged posting ID of other
people (and admitted to having done it). I get the feeling that it's
OK with you that Snit engaged in real forgery... even though you are
hypocritically attacking me (along with Snit) for my having defending
myself against a troll's attack on my children. What an honest and
honorable 'judge' you are. LOL!


(yes... your trolling/shilling is *that* obvious. "Joel")

Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 12:14:58 PM11/30/09
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Chance Furlong stated in post T-Bone-F6B020....@news.giganews.com
on 11/29/09 11:24 PM:

So you say, but who cares?


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Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:04:55 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Ask Snit about his "posts" where he's forged posting ID of other
>people (and admitted to having done it).


If he had done *that*, you would've shown proof of that. Why'd you
bother with all the other crapola, if he were guilty of forging a
valid email address in the From header?

Oh, I know why: 'Cause he prolly never DID, in the first place, and
you're LYING. Feel free to show the evidence, though.

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Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:05:17 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> I don't dispute that he seems to be *relatively* unpopular, but I have
>> yet to see a reason to join that fray. �I like Snit, and he's been
>> cool to me. �I make my own judgments.
>
>Yeah... posters here have seen you 'judge' Apple's business model as
>compared to MS's ;)


<yawn>

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Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 3:11:45 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 12:04 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:


Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.

Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 4:45:47 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
>he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
>Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
>that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
>they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
>he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
>without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
>engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.


No, I'm asking you, and you haven't proven any of it.

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Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:03:37 PM11/30/09
to
Joel stated in post 38f8h557rcapsio12...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
2:45 PM:

Sigh... Steve loves bringing up old topics. He knows he has been proved to
have forged data, absurdly blamed his dog, and then lie about it.

Looking at the above first claim from Steve, the allegedly forged PDFs were
ones showing how the archives of Sandman's site did not have valid HTML or
CSS (the main focus was the CSS). Here are the PDFs:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>

And where I provided *every* single URL needed to verify them:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f0420f6675f60cbd>

And where I show, with links, where Sandman changed his story about his CSS
claims:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55059e10b247c5c4>

Really... must every old debate from the last half decade and more be
brought up every time Steve is caught doing something dishonest or stupid?

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Tim Adams

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:23:10 PM11/30/09
to
In article <C7398F49.569D2%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Joel stated in post 38f8h557rcapsio12...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
> 2:45 PM:
>
> > Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
> >> he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
> >> Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
> >> that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
> >> they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
> >> he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
> >> without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
> >> engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.
> >
> >
> > No, I'm asking you, and you haven't proven any of it.
>
> Sigh... Steve loves bringing up old topics. He knows he has been proved to
> have forged data, absurdly blamed his dog, and then lie about it.
>
> Looking at the above first claim from Steve, the allegedly forged PDFs were
> ones showing how the archives of Sandman's site did not have valid HTML or
> CSS (the main focus was the CSS).


LIAR. Here is a link to the real forged pdf files that you keep running from.

http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111

--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm

Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:33:23 PM11/30/09
to
Tim Adams stated in post
teadams$2$0$0$3-C0B75F.17...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
11/30/09 3:23 PM:

> In article <C7398F49.569D2%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel stated in post 38f8h557rcapsio12...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
>> 2:45 PM:
>>
>>> Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
>>>> he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
>>>> Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
>>>> that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
>>>> they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
>>>> he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
>>>> without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
>>>> engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, I'm asking you, and you haven't proven any of it.
>>
>> Sigh... Steve loves bringing up old topics. He knows he has been proved to
>> have forged data, absurdly blamed his dog, and then lie about it.
>>
>> Looking at the above first claim from Steve, the allegedly forged PDFs were
>> ones showing how the archives of Sandman's site did not have valid HTML or
>> CSS (the main focus was the CSS).
>>

>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>
>>
>> And where I provided *every* single URL needed to verify them:
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f0420f6675f60cbd>
>>
>> And where I show, with links, where Sandman changed his story about his CSS
>> claims:
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55059e10b247c5c4>
>>
>> Really... must every old debate from the last half decade and more be brought
>> up every time Steve is caught doing something dishonest or stupid?
>

> LIAR. Here is a link to the real forged pdf files that you keep running from.
>
> http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111

Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying were
forged. Good - you have now admitted that Steve Carroll posted the post
where he forged text (the very one he absurdly blamed on his dog) and have
admitted Sandman lied about his CSS.

Excellent to see you are at least getting less dishonest.

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Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 6:07:45 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 2:45 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
> >he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
> >Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
> >that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
> >they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
> >he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
> >without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
> >engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.
>
> No, I'm asking you

That afraid of the truth, "Joel"? LOL!

Hmmm... let's see, if you aren't a shill/puppet... as you would have
the reader believe, then perhaps you'll consider the following and
show people you aren't (hint: an honest and honorable person would do
a whole bunch of considerin' here;) You and Snit have supposedly been
contacting each other via email, right? As I said above... a poster
here did that with Snit... and Snit betrayed his confidence by making
their "private emails" public without the poster's (ed) consent.

I once asked ed:
"Did Snit obtain your permission to post these emails?"

ed replied:
"absolutely not."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55590334ec6ced7e?hl=en&dmode=source

Hint: In case you missed it, the above is proof that a poster did
*not* grant Snit permission to make their "private emails" public.

It gets better... in the same thread ed is seen asking Snit for
permission to post "private emails" Snit wrote to ed:

"so if it's not lip service, the answer to the rest of my question
is..? (here's the rest of the question for ya "...would you like to
go ahead and fess up to some of the lies
you've admitted to me in email, or perhaps you you won't mind me
posting it up? how about it? :D ")"

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d5fddd14be5f380?hl=en&dmode=source


So... Snit apparently admitted to "lies" he engaged in to ed in their
"private emails", at least, to hear ed tell it. Snit never did deny
ed's claim about these "lies" that I ever saw. To my knowledge ed
hasn't ever posted up the "lies" that he claims Snit admitted to in
their emails (showing, IMO, that he has more character than does
Snit).

But it gets even better... a bit further in the thread ed is seen
answering Snit's bizarre set of conditions related to the granting of
permission... ed writes:

"so in order for you to consent to me posting your emails where you
admit to lying, you want me to agree to say i did something i don't
agree i did? i.e. you want me to lie in order to get you to consent
to allowing the truth? that's an odd concept- but as a compromise, i
will readily agree that i've had many posts that *you* claim to see as
trolling, and i'll agree that in your view of reality they're
trolling. how's that?

as far as the condition for steve, i'm not sure why there should be a
stipulation in there that he do anything before you release your
consent for me to post up your emails... seems like an attempt to
have the whole situation go away..."


Yes, that's right... Snit tied permission to post the emails to
*me*... there is no sensible reason to tie permission to me. Snit
obviously thought it was a way to refuse ed while looking reasonable,
a thing that could only make sense in Snit's mind, which is why we
find him doing it. And from the same post (at the bottom), ed writes:

"please; i'm not the one who's posted up private emails previously,
nor am i the one who has many documented lies against them."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b354048b39228d6f?hl=en&dmode=source

Notably, ed was the only person (up to the point that Snit made their
"private emails" public) who had ever entered into Snit's code of
honesty and honor.

So what we have here is a guy (ed) who signed Snit's honor code asking
permission to do what Snit had already done to him *without*
consent... and Snit ties his own granting of permission to a set of
bizarre, unrelated conditions in the hopes that ed will honor his end
of the bargain (hoping he won't post the emails showing Snit admitted
to "lies") that Snit created and had *already* broken.

Tim Adams

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:43:19 PM11/30/09
to
In article <C7399643.569ED%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> >

> > LIAR. Here is a link to the real forged pdf files that you keep running
> > from.
> >
> > http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111
>
> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying were
> forged.

yet another LIE from you michael glasser. I've NEVER claimed your pdf files
dealing with Sandman's web site were forged! What I havepointed out is that why
would anybody waste there time looking a still more pdf files from a person that
has already been proved to forge pdf files in the past! It's also interesting
that when you first posted the files about Sandman's site, one or more people
asked you how you created the file, ie what program(s) you used and you couldn't
answer them, babbling that you might have used illustrator, filemamker Pro and
IIRC, a couple of other programs. Is it any wonder people don't trust files you
'create'? Is it any wonder I, and many others, avoid your porn(1) web site?

(1) yet another word michael, aka snit, glasser doesn't understand the means of.

Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:10:57 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 3:03 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> Joel stated in post 38f8h557rcapsio12iui7disg0khf6u...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
> 2:45 PM:

>
> > Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> Been done. Maybe you'll also ask Snit about his PDF forgery BS... that
> >> he falsely blamed on Steve Mackay... or his sexual harassment of
> >> Elizabot... or his flooding of Sandman's site... or his bogus claim
> >> that Dave Fritzinger called someone, and I quote: "a "mama's boy" as
> >> they take care of their dying mother"... or make public emails between
> >> he and another poster (emails that should have remained private)
> >> without the consent of that poster... or his false accusation that I
> >> engaged in adultery... the list goes on and on.
>
> > No, I'm asking you, and you haven't proven any of it.
>
> Sigh... Steve loves bringing up old topics.

Said the hypocrite Snit... who recently talked about the 'old topic'
of tildes with Tim Adams. Dishonesty and dishonorable actions are
never "old topics" where you are concerned, Snit.

> He knows he has been proved to
> have forged data,

An attack on children is considered "data" by you?

LOL! You'd better lock that medicine chest right away;)

Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:56:45 PM11/30/09
to
Tim Adams stated in post
teadams$2$0$0$3-BE6369.20...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
11/30/09 6:43 PM:

...

>>>> Looking at the above first claim from Steve, the allegedly forged PDFs were
>>>> ones showing how the archives of Sandman's site did not have valid HTML or
>>>> CSS (the main focus was the CSS).
>
>>>
>>> LIAR. Here is a link to the real forged pdf files that you keep running
>>> from.
>>>
>>> http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111
>>
>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying were
>> forged.
>
> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.

Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.

Even though, keep in mind, I proved they were not. Here are the PDFs:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>

And where I provided *every* single URL needed to verify them:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f0420f6675f60cbd>

And where I show, with links, where Sandman changed his story about his CSS
claims:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55059e10b247c5c4>

But you claim they were forged anyway.

Yeah, you are a liar. You cannot help but prove it.

> I've NEVER claimed your pdf files
> dealing with Sandman's web site were forged!

Good, then you are back to agreeing Sandman is a liar. Funny how you flip
flop so quickly.

...
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Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:19:06 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> No, I'm asking you
>
>That afraid of the truth, "Joel"? LOL!


As I thought, you failed to show Snit forging anyone's email address
in a From header on Usenet. That's the allegation I'm interested in
(even though I'm quite sure he never did it, but in theory I *would*
be interested if he actually *had*).

--
Joel Crump

Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:32:06 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 8:19 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> No, I'm asking you
>
> >That afraid of the truth, "Joel"? LOL!
>
> As I thought


As I thought...

--


Hmmm... let's see, if you aren't a shill/puppet... as you would have
the reader believe, then perhaps you'll consider the following and
show people you aren't (hint: an honest and honorable person would do
a whole bunch of considerin' here;) You and Snit have supposedly been
contacting each other via email, right? As I said above... a poster
here did that with Snit... and Snit betrayed his confidence by making
their "private emails" public without the poster's (ed) consent.

I once asked ed:
"Did Snit obtain your permission to post these emails?"

ed replied:
"absolutely not."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55590334ec6ced7e?h=
l=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

Hint: In case you missed it, the above is proof that a poster did
*not* grant Snit permission to make their "private emails" public.

It gets better... in the same thread ed is seen asking Snit for
permission to post "private emails" Snit wrote to ed:

"so if it's not lip service, the answer to the rest of my question
is..? (here's the rest of the question for ya "...would you like to
go ahead and fess up to some of the lies
you've admitted to me in email, or perhaps you you won't mind me
posting it up? how about it? :D ")"

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d5fddd14be5f380?h=
l=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b354048b39228d6f?h=
l=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

Notably, ed was the only person (up to the point that Snit made their
"private emails" public) who had ever entered into Snit's code of
honesty and honor.

So what we have here is a guy (ed) who signed Snit's honor code asking
permission to do what Snit had already done to him *without*
consent... and Snit ties his own granting of permission to a set of
bizarre, unrelated conditions in the hopes that ed will honor his end
of the bargain (hoping he won't post the emails showing Snit admitted
to "lies") that Snit created and had *already* broken.

--

Poor "Joel"... the guy he claims to "like" is a dishonest,
disingenuous, dishonorable piece of sh*t;)

Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:46:11 PM11/30/09
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Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>As I thought...


You lied, big shock.

--
Joel Crump

Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:52:59 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 8:46 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >As I thought...
>
> You lied, big shock.

Ask Snit, fool;)

Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 10:52:52 PM11/30/09
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Joel stated in post vb49h5p7r56d3prkk...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
8:46 PM:

> Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> As I thought...
>
>
> You lied, big shock.

To "defend" his clear forgery of someone else's text (not even mine!) and
his absurd blaming of his dog, Steve points to a post of mine from 2005.

He has been waiting this long to get revenge? What? And by forging someone
else's words? I wonder if Steve takes the time to think about what he is
posts.


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Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:09:54 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> >As I thought...
>>
>> You lied, big shock.
>
>Ask Snit, fool;)


If he had done what you're accusing him of doing, why would I trust
him to ask about it? Duh. Prove your outrageous accusation, or get
lost.

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Joel Crump

Snit

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:12:18 PM11/30/09
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Joel stated in post co59h5tpsu96han46...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
9:09 PM:

There is a hidden YouTube video from 2004 of my deep frying kittens. This
is why Steve forges other's people text today. It all makes sense. :)


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Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:25:35 PM11/30/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>There is a hidden YouTube video from 2004 of my deep frying kittens. This
>is why Steve forges other's people text today. It all makes sense. :)


Heheh. ;)

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Joel Crump

Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:39:23 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 9:09 pm, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >As I thought...
>
> >> You lied, big shock.
>
> >Ask Snit, fool;)
>
> If he had done what you're accusing him of doing, why would I trust
> him to ask about it?

Because you're as stupid as Snit seems to believe you are would be my
guess... so far he appears to be right in his belief;)


Steve Carroll

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:40:14 PM11/30/09
to
On Nov 30, 9:12 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> Joel stated in post co59h5tpsu96han46j6191l6np6o880...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
> 9:09 PM:

>
> > Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> As I thought...
>
> >>> You lied, big shock.
>
> >> Ask Snit, fool;)
>
> > If he had done what you're accusing him of doing, why would I trust
> > him to ask about it?  Duh.  Prove your outrageous accusation, or get
> > lost.
>
> There is a hidden YouTube video from 2004 of my deep frying kittens.  This
> is why Steve forges other's people text today.  It all makes sense.  :)

Do you think he fell for your red herring here, Snit? He may just be
this stupid... I have to hand it to you... you sure seem to be able to
spot 'em;)

Joel

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Nov 30, 2009, 11:43:22 PM11/30/09
to
Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> If he had done what you're accusing him of doing, why would I trust
>> him to ask about it?
>
>Because you're as stupid as Snit seems to believe you are would be my
>guess... so far he appears to be right in his belief;)


And how much dope are you on tonight, to be putting words in his brain
like that?

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Joel Crump

Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:03:54 AM12/1/09
to
Joel stated in post 6n79h5doqoogg58ku...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
9:43 PM:

Steve suggested you do something that, if Steve was right, would be stupid
to do. You call him on that, and he claims he did so because *you* are
stupid.

That really is funny. It is those kind of self-nukes are what keep me
interested in the "arguments" from the clique. :)


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Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:21:16 AM12/1/09
to
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> And how much dope are you on tonight, to be putting words in his brain
>> like that?
>
>Steve suggested you do something that, if Steve was right, would be stupid
>to do. You call him on that, and he claims he did so because *you* are
>stupid.
>
>That really is funny. It is those kind of self-nukes are what keep me
>interested in the "arguments" from the clique. :)


I suppose I might possibly see your point, there. ;)

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Joel Crump

Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:38:11 AM12/1/09
to
Joel stated in post 5u99h51q8i6qqn7g8...@4ax.com on 11/30/09
10:21 PM:

I just wonder how many hours Steve is going to spend searching YouTube for
the cat-frying video? :)


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Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 4:25:50 AM12/1/09
to
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> I just wonder how many hours Steve is going to spend searching YouTube
> for the cat-frying video? :)


Lol, fair question. :) Btw, I've done my best to make this look like my
posts with Agent, but this is my first post with Pan under Ubuntu. I
hate to say it, but it's kinda growing on me, despite the fairly obtuse
installer (i.e. it's a good thing I'm not one of the average people we've
been discussing in COLA). I had to set the installer to use safe video
mode, since all I got with the default mode was a black screen with a
mouse pointer, but after I actually installed and updated it, the video
driver worked, and as far as I've so far seen, it's handled my hardware
(I do need to fully investigate that, though).

I don't get why a remote desktop server was set to run on startup by
default, but I just uninstalled it from the system. Doesn't seem like
the wisest thing to run, but what do I know ...

--
Joel Crump

Steve de Mena

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Dec 1, 2009, 4:28:10 AM12/1/09
to
Why don't you take this out of this newsgroup?

Steve

Wally

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Dec 1, 2009, 4:36:19 AM12/1/09
to
On 1/12/09 11:19 AM, in article to29h5tf7j55m3o8t...@4ax.com,
"Joel" <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

By your own admission you *must* know that Snit has forged headers because
you claim that he has posted one which shows the poster called "Steve
Carroll's Dog" using the same IP as Steve Carroll ... If such a post exists
then it *will* be a forgery, or perhaps your statement above simply proves
that you have not seen such a post and your assertion that Snit has supplied
it is exactly what I consider it to be ..... Simply BS by a simple minded
poster called Joel!.

High Plains Thumper

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:05:48 AM12/1/09
to
Wally wrote:
> Joel wrote:

>> Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>>> No, I'm asking you
>>>
>>> That afraid of the truth, "Joel"? LOL!
>>
>> As I thought, you failed to show Snit forging anyone's email
>> address in a From header on Usenet. That's the allegation
>> I'm interested in (even though I'm quite sure he never did
>> it, but in theory I *would* be interested if he actually
>> *had*)
>
> By your own admission you *must* know that Snit has forged
> headers because you claim that he has posted one which shows
> the poster called "Steve Carroll's Dog" using the same IP as
> Steve Carroll ... If such a post exists then it *will* be a
> forgery, or perhaps your statement above simply proves that
> you have not seen such a post and your assertion that Snit has
> supplied it is exactly what I consider it to be ..... Simply
> BS by a simple minded poster called Joel!.

By a simple minded poster called Joel Crump AKA Rhino Plastee AKA
Snit.

--
HPT

Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:11:23 AM12/1/09
to
Wally <Wa...@wallyworld.net> wrote:

>> As I thought, you failed to show Snit forging anyone's email address in
>> a From header on Usenet. That's the allegation I'm interested in (even
>> though I'm quite sure he never did it, but in theory I *would* be
>> interested if he actually *had*)
>
> By your own admission you *must* know that Snit has forged headers
> because you claim that he has posted one which shows the poster called
> "Steve Carroll's Dog" using the same IP as Steve Carroll ... If such a
> post exists then it *will* be a forgery, or perhaps your statement above
> simply proves that you have not seen such a post and your assertion that
> Snit has supplied it is exactly what I consider it to be ..... Simply BS
> by a simple minded poster called Joel!.


Even if that made any sense, which it does not, no one gives a fuck, you
stupid, nerdy piece of human garbage. FOAD.

--
Joel Crump

Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:15:22 AM12/1/09
to
High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Wally wrote:

>> Joel wrote:
>>>
>>> As I thought, you failed to show Snit forging anyone's email address
>>> in a From header on Usenet. That's the allegation I'm interested in
>>> (even though I'm quite sure he never did it, but in theory I *would*
>>> be interested if he actually *had*)
>>
>> By your own admission you *must* know that Snit has forged headers
>> because you claim that he has posted one which shows the poster called
>> "Steve Carroll's Dog" using the same IP as Steve Carroll ... If such a
>> post exists then it *will* be a forgery, or perhaps your statement
>> above simply proves that you have not seen such a post and your
>> assertion that Snit has supplied it is exactly what I consider it to be
>> ..... Simply BS by a simple minded poster called Joel!.
>
> By a simple minded poster called Joel Crump AKA Rhino Plastee AKA Snit.


No wonder you keep getting accused of nymshifting - it's bad karma for
making such stupid accusations, yourself. Or in simpler terms, say it to
my face, if you don't like your neck the way it is. But you'd rather be
a little pussyhole, and talk shit online. You fucking geek.

--
Joel Crump

Wally

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:20:25 AM12/1/09
to
On 1/12/09 11:46 AM, in article vb49h5p7r56d3prkk...@4ax.com,
"Joel" <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> As I thought...
>
>
> You lied, big shock.

Betcha never expected that Steve! ;-)

Never forget Joel is a guy that claims Snit has proven something that not
even Snit will put in a list of things allegedly proven! LOL


Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:36:37 AM12/1/09
to
Wally <Wa...@wallyworld.net> wrote:

>> You lied, big shock.
>
> Betcha never expected that Steve! ;-)
>
> Never forget Joel is a guy that claims Snit has proven something that
> not even Snit will put in a list of things allegedly proven! LOL


Get laid, you pathetic loser.

--
Joel Crump

Tim Adams

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Dec 1, 2009, 6:38:57 AM12/1/09
to
In article <C739D3FD.56B04%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-BE6369.20...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 11/30/09 6:43 PM:
>
> ...
> >>>> Looking at the above first claim from Steve, the allegedly forged PDFs
> >>>> were
> >>>> ones showing how the archives of Sandman's site did not have valid HTML
> >>>> or
> >>>> CSS (the main focus was the CSS).
> >
> >>>
> >>> LIAR. Here is a link to the real forged pdf files that you keep running
> >>> from.
> >>>
> >>> http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111
> >>
> >> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying
> >> were
> >> forged.
> >
> > yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
>
> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.


Those PDF files WERE forged! It was proven years ago and you've been running
away from that FACT ever since.

The proof is still available for everybody to see at:
http://csma.sandman.net/texter/read.php?id=42111

No need to visit the site of a person that has already been proven to forge one
document and look at other files.

Wally

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Dec 1, 2009, 6:54:08 AM12/1/09
to
On 1/12/09 6:36 PM, in article
1pydnQtIi7gobInW...@giganews.com, "Joel" <joel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Who's 'laid'?

Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 6:54:28 AM12/1/09
to
Joel stated in post 1pydnQ9Ii7iDfInW...@giganews.com on 12/1/09
2:25 AM:

> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> I just wonder how many hours Steve is going to spend searching YouTube
>> for the cat-frying video? :)
>
>
> Lol, fair question. :) Btw, I've done my best to make this look like my
> posts with Agent, but this is my first post with Pan under Ubuntu.

Just tried it. It worked OK, though I did not see a way to search on the
body of messages. Maybe I missed it? Also, the reply text of "So and so
stated in post such and such on date and time" did not list the variables.
Took me a few hit and miss guesses to get %id as, well, the ID.

With that said, I use Entourage, and while it has those features it is
amazingly horrid in other areas where Pan almost surely is not.

> I hate to say it, but it's kinda growing on me, despite the fairly obtuse
> installer (i.e. it's a good thing I'm not one of the average people we've been
> discussing in COLA). I had to set the installer to use safe video mode, since
> all I got with the default mode was a black screen with a mouse pointer, but
> after I actually installed and updated it, the video driver worked, and as far
> as I've so far seen, it's handled my hardware (I do need to fully investigate
> that, though).
>
> I don't get why a remote desktop server was set to run on startup by
> default, but I just uninstalled it from the system. Doesn't seem like
> the wisest thing to run, but what do I know ...

See if you can replicate this:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/UbuntuCP.mov>

That is from a couple versions ago... but most of the oddities are still
there. Right click has been fixed in help, though. It is those type of
inconsistencies and a lack of overall focus that I think hurts Ubuntu and
other desktop Linux distros.


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Snit

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Joel stated in post 1pydnQhIi7gncYnW...@giganews.com on 12/1/09
3:15 AM:

HPT claimed to be unable to replicate my Ubuntu copy/paste issues... and
went so far as to claim the video was "forged". When it was pointed out he
was wrong he never acknowledged his error, he just increased his trolling.
He then started pandering to Carroll and crew, posting Carroll's and
Sandman's obsessively scavenged and dishonestly forged quotes. He is not
exactly a bright guy.


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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:05:47 AM12/1/09
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Tim Adams stated in post
teadams$2$0$0$3-945D23.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
12/1/09 4:38 AM:

>>>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying were
>>>> forged.
>>>>
>>> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
>>>
>> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.
>>
> Those PDF files WERE forged!

So you say, even though you have been proved to be 100% wrong.

Here are the PDFs:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>

And where I provided *every* single URL needed to verify them:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f0420f6675f60cbd>

How sad for you that the facts do not give any even slight wiggle room to
believe your lies.

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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:18:01 AM12/1/09
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Wally stated in post C73B0EE9.2AE4%Wa...@wallyworld.net on 12/1/09 3:20 AM:

> On 1/12/09 11:46 AM, in article vb49h5p7r56d3prkk...@4ax.com,
> "Joel" <joel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve Carroll <fret...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As I thought...
>>
>>
>> You lied, big shock.
>
> Betcha never expected that Steve! ;-)

Yeah, how funny people would call Steve on his lies. Just amazing, eh?

...

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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:18:34 AM12/1/09
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Wally stated in post C73B0493.2AE1%Wa...@wallyworld.net on 12/1/09 2:36 AM:

Someday you will re-read that and be ashamed. Or maybe your family will
feel ashamed for you. Either way, it is funny to me.


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Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:51:24 AM12/1/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> Btw, I've done my best to make this look like my
>> posts with Agent, but this is my first post with Pan under Ubuntu.
>
>Just tried it. It worked OK, though I did not see a way to search on the
>body of messages. Maybe I missed it?


There are quite a few features of Agent's that it's missing (I'm not
entirely certain about that one, but I don't think it was there). I
installed it because it's the most Agent-like, but as seems to be
standard, you get what you (don't) pay for.


> Also, the reply text of "So and so
>stated in post such and such on date and time" did not list the variables.
>Took me a few hit and miss guesses to get %id as, well, the ID.


Yeah, I eventually noticed that it pops up a little info balloon when
you point at the box in the Profiles or whatever, to tell you how to
format it the way you want. I had already looked on Pan's site and
searched the Web, to find nothing.


>See if you can replicate this:
>
> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/UbuntuCP.mov>
>
>That is from a couple versions ago... but most of the oddities are still
>there. Right click has been fixed in help, though. It is those type of
>inconsistencies and a lack of overall focus that I think hurts Ubuntu and
>other desktop Linux distros.


I'll try to check into that next time I boot into it (if I ever do).
Looks about like what I'd expect of it, though. It's no wonder the
COLA people focus so much on outdated "insecurity" problems of
Windows - now that those things have been fixed for years (by any
meaningful standard), Linux is just plain crap.

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Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:51:30 AM12/1/09
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Wally <Wa...@wallyworld.net> wrote:

>Who's 'laid'?


Someone you obviously never have been and never will be.

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Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 7:52:09 AM12/1/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>HPT claimed to be unable to replicate my Ubuntu copy/paste issues... and
>went so far as to claim the video was "forged". When it was pointed out he
>was wrong he never acknowledged his error, he just increased his trolling.
>He then started pandering to Carroll and crew, posting Carroll's and
>Sandman's obsessively scavenged and dishonestly forged quotes. He is not
>exactly a bright guy.


Figures. Then again, I did notice that I felt a lot more relaxed
after booting back into Windows, and even felt that my earlier posts
under Linux were kinda psycho. Its inferiority must have been getting
under my skin. ;)

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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 8:06:39 AM12/1/09
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Joel stated in post q64ah5lk91c4m5e71...@4ax.com on 12/1/09
5:51 AM:

> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>> Btw, I've done my best to make this look like my
>>> posts with Agent, but this is my first post with Pan under Ubuntu.
>>
>> Just tried it. It worked OK, though I did not see a way to search on the
>> body of messages. Maybe I missed it?
>
> There are quite a few features of Agent's that it's missing (I'm not
> entirely certain about that one, but I don't think it was there). I
> installed it because it's the most Agent-like, but as seems to be
> standard, you get what you (don't) pay for.

For being free it is pretty darn good... in many ways better than the one I
use, which is hardly free (part of MS Office on the Mac).

>> Also, the reply text of "So and so
>> stated in post such and such on date and time" did not list the variables.
>> Took me a few hit and miss guesses to get %id as, well, the ID.
>
>
> Yeah, I eventually noticed that it pops up a little info balloon when
> you point at the box in the Profiles or whatever, to tell you how to
> format it the way you want. I had already looked on Pan's site and
> searched the Web, to find nothing.

Ack! Yeah, I missed that... looked at Pan's site but missed the pop-up
text.

>> See if you can replicate this:
>>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/UbuntuCP.mov>
>>
>> That is from a couple versions ago... but most of the oddities are still
>> there. Right click has been fixed in help, though. It is those type of
>> inconsistencies and a lack of overall focus that I think hurts Ubuntu and
>> other desktop Linux distros.
>
> I'll try to check into that next time I boot into it (if I ever do).
> Looks about like what I'd expect of it, though. It's no wonder the
> COLA people focus so much on outdated "insecurity" problems of
> Windows - now that those things have been fixed for years (by any
> meaningful standard), Linux is just plain crap.

I still see lots and lots of people infected with malware, though that is
mostly on XP. Will be interesting to see how many calls I get on infections
on Win 7. I will say I cannot recall a single infection on Vista, but I did
not see that many Vista machines.

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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 8:09:24 AM12/1/09
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Joel stated in post ka4ah5t051ssjioln...@4ax.com on 12/1/09
5:52 AM:

I have used Linux for schools where a low-cost, low-need system was required
and it has worked adequately... considering the needs (including price) it
was the best option. The systems were donated and all the school paid for
was my time to set them up. I even was able to have students help with the
installation... went pretty flawlessly. I am happy to use it when it is the
best option... but for desktop use it never really is for *intrinsic*
reasons, not that I have seen.


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Steve Carroll

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:10:14 PM12/1/09
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On Dec 1, 2:28 am, Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
> Why don't you take this out of this newsgroup?

You take Snit you take what goes along with him.

Steve Carroll

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:49:15 PM12/1/09
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On Dec 1, 5:05 am, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-945D23.06385701122...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on

> 12/1/09 4:38 AM:
>
> >>>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying were
> >>>> forged.
>
> >>> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
>
> >> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.
>
> > Those PDF files WERE forged!
>
> So you say, even though you have been proved to be 100% wrong.
>
> Here are the PDFs:
>
>    <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
>    <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>

Geez... is Snit back to forging PDFs and posting them on his insanity
site again? When will he learn that people just aren't as stupid as he
needs them to be... that his insanity is all too easily spotted.

(snip crap, delusions and a link to a ridiculous amount of even more
BS by Snit)

Steve Carroll

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Dec 1, 2009, 12:51:36 PM12/1/09
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On Dec 1, 5:18 am, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> Wally stated in post C73B0493.2AE1%Wa...@wallyworld.net on 12/1/09 2:36 AM:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 1/12/09 11:19 AM, in article to29h5tf7j55m3o8tlm9uk8ttde9jf6...@4ax.com,
> > "Joel" <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> Steve Carroll <fretw...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> No, I'm asking you
>
> >>> That afraid of the truth, "Joel"? LOL!
>
> >> As I thought, you failed to show Snit forging anyone's email address
> >> in a From header on Usenet.  That's the allegation I'm interested in
> >> (even though I'm quite sure he never did it, but in theory I *would*
> >> be interested if he actually *had*)
>
> > By your own admission you *must* know that Snit has forged headers because
> > you claim that he has posted one which shows the poster called "Steve
> > Carroll's Dog" using the same IP as Steve Carroll ... If such a post exists
> > then it *will* be a forgery, or perhaps your statement above simply proves
> > that you have not seen such a post and your assertion that Snit has supplied
> > it is exactly what I consider it to be ..... Simply BS by a simple minded
> > poster called Joel!.
>
> Someday you will re-read that and be ashamed.  Or maybe your family will
> feel ashamed for you.  Either way, it is funny to me.

"What the hell is wrong with you?"
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/232929ce1d450342?hl=en&dmode=source

Joel

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Dec 1, 2009, 1:27:34 PM12/1/09
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Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>For being free it is pretty darn good... in many ways better than the one I
>use, which is hardly free (part of MS Office on the Mac).


Very true - I didn't mean to dis Pan so much, but then again, it's
worth buying Agent.


>I still see lots and lots of people infected with malware, though that is
>mostly on XP. Will be interesting to see how many calls I get on infections
>on Win 7. I will say I cannot recall a single infection on Vista, but I did
>not see that many Vista machines.


Interesting to note.

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Tim Adams

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:06:44 PM12/1/09
to
In article <C73A54AB.56C07%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-945D23.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/1/09 4:38 AM:
>
> >>>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying
> >>>> were
> >>>> forged.
> >>>>
> >>> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
> >>>
> >> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.
> >>
> > Those PDF files WERE forged!
>
> So you say, even though you have been proved to be 100% wrong.

Still running I see. So typical. Just what does Steve MacKey have to do with
Sandman's web site, or were you just unable to read and comprehend the original
post, in this thread anyway, talking about you have forged pdf files.

<e35fb8dd-8cbe-4b49...@o31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>

Of course you'll keep running back to some new pdf files that have NOTHING to do
with Steve MacKey as you avoid the issue but then, that's why you keep your
track shoes laced up at all times - so you can keep running away.

run snit run

Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 5:45:45 PM12/1/09
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Tim Adams stated in post
teadams$2$0$0$3-D1DC17.17...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
12/1/09 3:06 PM:

> In article <C73A54AB.56C07%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim Adams stated in post
>> teadams$2$0$0$3-945D23.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
>> 12/1/09 4:38 AM:
>>
>>>>>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> forged.
>>>>>>
>>>>> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
>>>>>
>>>> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.
>>>>
>>> Those PDF files WERE forged!
>>
>> So you say, even though you have been proved to be 100% wrong.
>
> Still running I see.

And here is what you are running from:

---------
Here are the PDFs:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-html.pdf>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>

And where I provided *every* single URL needed to verify them:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f0420f6675f60cbd>

How sad for you that the facts do not give any even slight wiggle room to
believe your lies.

---------

It is clear why you are running - your accusations of forgery is easily
disproved. Oh well, not like it is a surprise to see you lying. Good, I
suppose, that you admit you are running.

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High Plains Thumper

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Dec 1, 2009, 9:37:58 PM12/1/09
to
Joel wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>> Snit sock Joel Crump wrote:
>>
>>> It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not
>>> bother to verify my identity, we get it. Pussy.
>>
>> Welcome to CSMA... anytime someone makes sense and is honest
>> they are accused of being me.
>>
>> Says little for the faith those who make the accusation have
>> in people - they think I am the person in the world who can
>> be sensible and honest.
>
> Good point. ;)

I love it when socks cuddle!

Thus says Snit nymshifting as Joel and talking to himself, LOL!

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High Plains Thumper

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Dec 1, 2009, 9:43:56 PM12/1/09
to
Joel wrote:

> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> By a simple minded poster called Joel Crump AKA Rhino
>> Plastee AKA Snit.
>
> No wonder you keep getting accused of nymshifting - it's bad
> karma for making such stupid accusations, yourself. Or in
> simpler terms, say it to my face, if you don't like your neck
> the way it is. But you'd rather be a little pussyhole, and
> talk shit online. You fucking geek.

A new poster to CSMA now accuses me of the same false accusations
made by Flatfish and other COLA trolls, how is this prior
knowledge recounted by someone new? And begs for attention like
Snit?

Unless of course it is a Snit sock, LOL!

Snit lied. Again.

22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 10:10:00 PM12/1/09
to
High Plains Thumper stated in post 4b15d306$0$9752$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org
on 12/1/09 7:37 PM:

> Joel wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>> Snit sock Joel Crump wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's easier for your weak ass to be disingenuous and not
>>>> bother to verify my identity, we get it. Pussy.
>>>
>>> Welcome to CSMA... anytime someone makes sense and is honest
>>> they are accused of being me.
>>>
>>> Says little for the faith those who make the accusation have
>>> in people - they think I am the person in the world who can
>>> be sensible and honest.
>>
>> Good point. ;)
>
> I love it when socks cuddle!

I do not want to know how long you spend each day staring at your sock
drawer.


>
> Thus says Snit nymshifting as Joel and talking to himself, LOL!

Ah, I look forward to your support for this accusation.

What?

You have none. Poor HPT... always on the losing end of every debate he
starts.


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Snit

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Dec 1, 2009, 10:11:25 PM12/1/09
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High Plains Thumper stated in post 4b15d472$0$9752$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org
on 12/1/09 7:43 PM:

You do realize Steve accuses me of being Edward... right? Anyway, the fact
your BS is quickly recognized is not evidence that someone is a sock.

Nice try... though once again you are in the wrong.


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Tim Adams

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:43:35 AM12/2/09
to
In article <C73AEAA9.56D8E%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-D1DC17.17...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/1/09 3:06 PM:
>
> > In article <C73A54AB.56C07%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tim Adams stated in post
> >> teadams$2$0$0$3-945D23.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> >> 12/1/09 4:38 AM:
> >>
> >>>>>> Good to see you no longer claim the PDFs that proved Sandman was lying
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> forged.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> yet another LIE from you michael glasser.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Ok, so you now you *are* back to lying and saying those PDFs were forged.
> >>>>
> >>> Those PDF files WERE forged!
> >>
> >> So you say, even though you have been proved to be 100% wrong.
> >
> > Still running I see.
>
> And here is what

snits running from - Just what does Steve MacKey have to do with

Steve Carroll

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Dec 2, 2009, 10:10:16 AM12/2/09
to
On Dec 1, 8:11 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> High Plains Thumper stated in post 4b15d472$0$9752$6e1ed...@read.cnntp.org

> on 12/1/09 7:43 PM:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Joel wrote:
> >> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
> >>> By a simple minded poster called Joel Crump AKA Rhino
> >>> Plastee AKA Snit.
>
> >> No wonder you keep getting accused of nymshifting - it's bad
> >> karma for making such stupid accusations, yourself.  Or in
> >> simpler terms, say it to my face, if you don't like your neck
> >> the way it is.  But you'd rather be a little pussyhole, and
> >> talk shit online.  You fucking geek.
>
> > A new poster to CSMA now accuses me of the same false accusations
> > made by Flatfish and other COLA trolls, how is this prior
> > knowledge recounted by someone new?  And begs for attention like
> > Snit?
>
> > Unless of course it is a Snit sock, LOL!
>
> > Snit lied.  Again.
>
> > 22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
> > and honorable people apply to him.  That is absurd.  He is the
> > biggest liar in Usenet history.  Mackay posted the email to prove
> > Snit was using sock puppets and he still is.  Snit can not give
> > up his socks puppets and shills.  They are the only ones who ever
> > support him."  28 Jan 2009
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d...

>
> You do realize Steve accuses me of being Edward... right?  

So what? Maybe I made a "mistake"... you know all about those;)

> Anyway, the fact
> your BS is quickly recognized is not evidence that someone is a sock.

It doesn't matter what the name of the person who exposes your lies
is, Snit. That idea is just some red herring you falsely believed
would fool sane, honest and honorable people... but it didn't. People
just aren't as stupid as you need them to be...

Snit

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Dec 2, 2009, 11:12:44 AM12/2/09
to
Tim Adams stated in post
teadams$2$0$0$3-170633.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
12/2/09 4:43 AM:

>> And here is what
>
> snits running from

By forcing you to snip.

Man, I am gooooood. LOL!


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Steve Carroll

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Dec 2, 2009, 7:13:08 PM12/2/09
to
On Nov 29, 9:41 am, Joel <joelcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >Carroll and Sandman have been compiling and forging derogatory quotes about
> >me since 2004.  Since they cannot quote me actually doing what they accuse
> >me of, they pretend that "eye witness" accounts - many of them obvious socks
> >- mean something.
>
> >I collected quotes about Steve for one month... and there were dozens.
> >Steve and the "clique", of course, pretend those do not mean anything...
> >just more of their desperate double standards.
>
> >They do not understand how they prove themselves to be liars every day - no
> >need to dig back half a decade.
>
> It's very clear that your enemies have nothing useful to contribute.

Poor "Joel"... unable to comprehend what he's read... again. Joel just
can't quite grasp the fact that what's "very clear" is that Snit has
made "enemies" with entire newsgroups full of people.

1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area and
a
login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to e-mail it to
you,
and a bot will send an e-mail. *That* is the e-mail Snit got from
Sandman's website, and yes he's that fucked in the head and starved
for
attention that he'd claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself.
So,
don't get sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this
particular
instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7

2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour
and
not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd leave
too.
Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have
never made the same wish of him." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221

3- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,


you
are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the
newsgroup."

4- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to
weasel
out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole." 25 Jun 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da

5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why not
just
let them go away and show how responsible a member of CSMA you are?
You
could show your enemies up by being better than then, rise above the
low
level you so obviously dislike. Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5

6- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes,
then
troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire,
but
it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578

7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone else
who
has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed it to be
wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and REALLY show you to
be
a fool. You need to judiciously snip out pertinent points because you
are
an intellectually dwarfed turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f

8- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group can be
if
you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more people don't do
the
same.." 5 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903

9- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but
since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything." 27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190

The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some
people
just can't stop feeding him."

10- °b° unny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually =:-
("
9 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432

11- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."

12- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ... in
the
groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the idiotrollers like
snit
would reply to this thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts, only
your
reply".

13- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so, for
they
way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot,
and
simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes. It's now far too
late
to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5

14- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for you
to
learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of course, that
your
Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9

15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months
old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just respond to a
current message." 22 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a

Snit: "And, yes, I know the facts will go over your head. You are an
insane moron... and you have nothing of value to say. Here: you will
prove it with your response and I will merely note you did so. 100%
predictable."
cc: "What facts? The fact that you don't know what a hypothetical
situation is? The fact that you can't answer any questions? The fact
that
you continue to run away when faced with simple questions? I am 100%
predictable to you because you simply cannot understand what has been
placed in front of you. It's all just a jumble of words to your pea-
sized
brain, and therefore it always looks the same." 15 Nov 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f6ce4429806e9de6

16- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to
"win"
an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must you
keep
this up? What results are you expecting?"

17- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives
show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep posting your
list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will not address it
any
further- you being too stupid to realize and accept that is not my
problem". 22 Nov 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8

18- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread
what
I had previously written. What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of reading
into
things what you wanted people to have said instead of what they
really
said.

I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look
foolish."

Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all
of
them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many
diverse
people who share a common perception where do you think the problem
lies?
With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an
advanced degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b

19- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care to read]
Snit,
please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but please,
please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290

20- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought you
knew
what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was presented to
you. I guess I had too much confidence in you." 30 Nov 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f

21- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and
loser
you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up
responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for
the
magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's
sharpness
when i stop responding to you. you almost always start responding back
in
a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once again that
time.
i can only ask that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn
child
for having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well,
if
your wife is a loser as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-
rat
to be; if not, double condolences to her). " 30 Apr 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77

22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest and
honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the biggest
liar
in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove Snit was using
sock
puppets and he still is. Snit can not give up his socks puppets and
shills. They are the only ones who ever support him." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the worst
troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger, and
you've
almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you to post a list
of
out of context arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies
labled as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts
you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need to be
center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought
it
would make people look at you." 18 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0

24- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see
a
doctor." 24 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15

25- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points
in
my post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode. How
childishly typical of you, Snit." 16 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5

26- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled since
the
first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do like Snit'. As far
as
I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist." 15 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0

27- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming
to
CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides
the
typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like being
in
a room of really young children trying there best to best the other
person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate
to
be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a
great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and
more
about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all
this
picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has always been
al
little adversarial but you have personally crank it up to the point
that
this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and
making
this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6

28- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who uncover
his
lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are
"proof".
LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d

29- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865

30- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you
crazy
with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at
any
cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into
submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is
to
hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that
will
only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd

31- gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com: "Hitting the vodka tonight
Snit?" 4
Mar 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794

32- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else
notices
that you are not honest and you have no honor." 21 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91

33- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate threads,
are
you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont ever censor
people
cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna have to
cause
I dont wanna see your name 40 times in a row. So uh, change your
client
or something". 12 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499

34- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your BS or
actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you keep asking
for
and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel." 30
Jan
2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a

Snit: "Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question I
just
asked. You will run... your whole goal is to beg for attention, not
to
make or support a point."
Hadron: "nice. You made it into my new killfile. Jesus, stop
repeating
the same garbage." 6 Apr 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728

35- Henry Flam: "Who gives a damn about this shit? Snit, once in a
while,
I make the mistake in thinking that that you are starting to make
sense
in your posts; I tend to agree with your politics. Then you post
stuff
like this and it destroys any respect that I have for you." 16 Aug
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f048bedfe0d67d66

Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must a deeply trouble individual
who
has a fragile ego. I needn't agree nor disagree with the points above.
I
don't care about them. Your constant complaints, whines, rages, etc.,
wars with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as trolls,
arise
from your sense that any conversation or thread must orbit around
you.
People have pointed that out to you but you don't accept that. Snit
I
feel sorry for you. Please go and see a doctor about your solipsism.
There must be a cure for you deep psychological travail." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8

36- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"

37- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the definition of
"synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example of how you attempt
to
maliciously debase against anyone who disagrees with you. As such, I
consider this to be a purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me.
This
is your only warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the
reminder that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a

38- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick and
tired
of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly statements shifting
the
goal posts, your continuous rambling drivel of how everyone seems to
be
against you. No one cares a wooden nickel about your incessant flame
wars that are self created. You pretend to be an advocate but you
manage
to cause everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f

Only once in a blue moon does he have anything worth reading. I just
got
through his circus of repetitive ad hominem crap. I am surprised
that
with the stunts he has pulled in COLA and this newsgroup, that he
hasn't
suffered a worse fate in real life. If he hasn't, one of these days
he
will pull that stunt on the wrong person, and *B-O-O-M-!*, someone
will
pull the trigger. One ought to really pity him (or as Steve Travis
stated, "Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more happy
glue
(and the appropriate plastic bags)." 8 Jul 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2666237bba82b97a

39- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting
the same following message over and over, in false pretense as a
Linux
advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least. I
don't
mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious when I say
'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill, and needs help.
I
was going to suggest that someone alerts his wife to the problem, but
I
have to assume she's already aware of his condition, if she is in
fact
still living with him. It's possible, I suppose, that he's already
undergoing counselling and/or on medication, but if he is then it
doesn't
seem to be helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again,
I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8

40- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting to CSMA for
a
long time now, since 1995 at least. There have always been trolls and
morons, but I've never seen anything quite so disruptive as the Snit
circus. Snit will *never* back down or stop, and neither will most of
his
opponents. A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb

hophead: "It's best to killfile snit, and if you can, set up a filter
to
kill any responses to snit. Or (as I've been forced to do) killfile
those who insist on responding to him. Yes, you do miss some advocacy
from some of those people, but the joy of not seeing snit or any
responses to him far outweighs the cost. Of course, snit also uses
sockpuppets. They are pretty easy to identify fortunately and are
easily
killed as well." 19 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d0cb5d4f4d1cba91

41- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to offer
support for your statements, you're reduced to personal attacks on
me.
Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see that I have offered no
straw men, and have only asked you to explain how the things you state
as
facts can be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this attitude,
the
topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have some
insights.
I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was just
repeated." 6 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6

42- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh
your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over.
Either
you're a super troll, or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0

43- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."

44- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git." 23
Dec
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d

45- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-
step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me
achieve
a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and
those
kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this." 18
Nov
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862

46- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you accomplishing
besides being annoying? Is that your goal?" 25 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243

47- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush mentioned in
it?
You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on topic and not hijack
threads."

48- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved
in
seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT
things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead and
stop this crap. Try. How about it?" 25 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b

49- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather
than
actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I
suppose."

"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce evidence for
his
claims. At least come up with some original insults Snit! I mean,
you
*are* capable of original thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44

50- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall
-
in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at
passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7

51- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are
you
bitching about?"

52- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like
a
black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain
an
unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up?
Please??"
11 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121

53- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I
just
consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name." 7
Jan
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2

54- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be shocked
that
he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about being a computer
repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and best ignored. Let
him
deal with his disorder by medication. He's here to do one thing, get
attention from people. He says the crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what he's
counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes to get a rise
out
of people like you. Ignore him, you won't regret it." 3 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314

"Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without adding drinking
booze
to the list. How the hell did you manage to get out of my killfile?
Oh
well back into the cage you go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8

55- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this posting?
Because I certainly cannot find it."

56- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that even
though
the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll of the lot is
mostly
being ignored by readers on this bb. If the few stragglers that keep
replying to him would just stop responding to Snit at all this place
could be worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll pack up
and
take his trolling to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4

57- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your sentence
with
"Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.' 29 Oct 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8

58- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading
the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of putrid
excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your
position,
instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, hoping
it'll
all go away." 7 Mar 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a

59- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem
attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks.
You
make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You're
a
liar and a hypocrite and you always have been." 14 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee

60- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f

61- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long time,
but
the few times you post something worth reading just aren't worth it
anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83

62- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been
an
annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense of
trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is
trashtalk
about Linux and you acting every bit the troll." 16 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f

63-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors CBS
News
and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit is cornered,
he
changes the subject and will never admit he's wrong." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf

64- libsnightmare:
Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He
never
flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like "Kerry and
all
the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has resorted to fifth
grade
tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to edit posts
and
post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie. Once again, you
have
proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4 May 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e

65- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."

"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by that
effete
candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574

66- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I
would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)" 18 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6

67- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is
the
same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would
be
impossible to determine where the honesty starts and the usual
dishonesty
ends. In my primary school, one of the teachers was very keen on
proverbs, and I recall her going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr
Glasser
could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to help him
with
his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if he's ever
telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3

68- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it to
this
post since its all about him and he managed to make me think about
him
today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her house and
videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then burned a
DVD
of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got
mad
because we quit making him the center of attention and made that kid
on
the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life." 30 Sep
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b

69- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone refutes
your
'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting your 'facts' is
easily
done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it." 9 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32

70- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I see
you
doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with everyone. You're
the
TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a compliment!" 8 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd

71- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I
can
only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to
inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged
you
actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek
professional
help."

"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot made
no
threat to you before you went to the police. She made a promise.
Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out paranoiac view point,
Elizabot
was suddenly "threatening" to you. In so much as you had to take your
kooky self down to your local police shop and blub on their shoulders
about how much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they had to
waste
valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity. I bet they
have
Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of your profile, Snit." 2
Sep
2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40

72- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious.
Treat
him the same way, look but just keep moving on." 18 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07

73- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they are
off-
topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring and clearly
show
that you are crying out for attention." 20 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80

74- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact that
your
obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you claimed to KF
him.
Killfilling someone generally implies you're ignoring that person,
yet
you piggyback onto virtually every reply to him here and and check
his
website's validation status more often than most people check their e-
mail. These are not the actions of a mentally balanced individual."
19
Jan 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b

75- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school
or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two
about social behavior." 16 May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4

76- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are
trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me." 24 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad9daff74ee1e0bd

Muahman: "LOL, everyone hates Snit. I know I'd push him in front of a
bus
if I could." 15 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e5ee46bf5bf04d00

Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit retard
circus!!! I
actually dread seeing Snit reply to a thread because that
automatically
means it's in the toilet." 8 Jul 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701

77- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced
that
snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly
am
now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?" 29 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508

78- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry sense
of
humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just a waste of
time,
and you've done more than anybody to make this group a cesspool. Then
you
revel in wallowing in your own filth." 14 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274

79- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling as
children in the back seat of the family car saying:
Mom, 'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do
now ...
I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is that by now
you
should've grown out of that type of poke and complain interaction
with
others. But, of course, you've haven't learned how to interact with
others in a more 'constructive' and mutually beneficial manner even
now." 03 Jul 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4

80- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I
killfiled
him?" 27 Nov 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257

81- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and
desire
to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of things." 2
Oct
2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e

82- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending
Author,
example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill this Author'
Click
'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice. Then to
see
your work... Choose the Filter Menu again, Then 'Refilter
Articles'...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!"
14
Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec

83- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that matter, Snit,
for
whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769

84- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> "

85- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone who
talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable" you appear
to
be the least honest and honorable of anyone here." 22 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4

86- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher
but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten
seconds
later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c

87- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take your
argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77

88- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and
someti...
err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon he has
something
useful to say."

89- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has
told
me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."

90- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as
dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma
posters
even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There are certainly
other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no others are so intent
on
trolling in whatever way possible as Snot" 15 Mar 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3409d9582dcebd25

91- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu".

92- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial
snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions." 1 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277

93- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing
war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you single
out
persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously berate
them
with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious
responses,
which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all
things,
your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this
is
what convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d

94- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."

95- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You
trash
people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous
situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going
on." 06 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b

96- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a
troll.
I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he
is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92

97- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you
quote
Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the shell
of
a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk of
looking
ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If that's your
goal,
you're on the right track, and more power to you." 11 Jan 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d

98- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's thing
is
twisting your words so he can win an argument against a straw man.
That's
enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42

99- Rotten Apple:
Snit: "The truth? Carroll has openly admitted he does what he
accuses
others of... now there is evidence he is committing identity theft -
the
very thing he accuses me of based on his claiming I am not the person
he
has tracked me down to be."
Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir boys." 14 Sep
2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb

Snit: "No need for him to worry - unlike him, I would not even
threaten
to contact his wife. I simply will not sink to his level. I suspect
his
wife will find out anyway - people are not as stupid as he wants them
to
be."
Rotten Apple: "Your meds are really kicking your ass!" 15 Sep 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5e414c27d6357a4a

100- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate
a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it
can
help you and your supposed users why aren't you requesting help from
a
more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old
saying
goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts seem to
confirm
that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08

101- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless.
You
must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much as
you."
29 Dec 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d

102- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY-
of
csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news
group
before. He has the ability to turn just about any person against him
in
just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part
with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be
a
troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are
wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour." 18 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2

103- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly,
even
the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense
than
this. You been doing drugs or something?" 25 May 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370

104- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to
remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1

105- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts trash
just
to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1

106- spike1: "The thought is probably to show everyone here just how
bad
a troll snit is".

107- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing
anger,
i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks
he's making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's
pretty
smart. indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and the
iq
tests and he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well
adjusted."
3 Mar 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7f9fa1cf90490298

108- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that
he
has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll(or worse) by the vast
majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."

109- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of
elephant
dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the "Snit
Circus",
but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like
elephant dung." 18 Aug 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9fc11094133dfcdf

Welcome to the Snit circus, where the popcorn and cotton candy are
stale,
and the smell of elephant dung is everywhere. 27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/614daf295b50413f

110- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility with
me
for your rediculous argument regarding this." 26 Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c8777d39c34e293

111- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has
lost
all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like
'asses'
when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally superior snit
have
fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule to
feel
embarassed for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him
more
happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)." 27 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3edd9ab69425a6c5

112- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him
then. A
snit is a snit is a snit and always will be." 15 Aug 2006 (post not
available except in reply)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b382420a696f140

113- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): "In other words, in another attempt to
troll,
you made yourself look like a fool. Again". 28 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b2676d3540e09f38

114- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my killbin,
I
can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322

115- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're the
one
lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically amount to "I'm
right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples someone points at to
demonstrate their claim, you blindly continue to insist that they
provide
no evidence, or that the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still,
you
fall back on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the
argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that inhabit
CSMA, Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than you are."
23
Sep 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d488596b57132124

116- Thufir: "It's based on *your* MO that I, at least, have no
problem
in stating that you're full of shit on nearly any topic. I've
observed
your bullshit, and based on that pattern of bullshit, infer that
you're
full of it. Your MO is the evidence, the logic is an inference based
on
the evidence." 21 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c89d3cf79e806e5f

Thufir: "You can "prove" that no one has disproved your "proof"?
Again,
your assertion that no one has done so is even *less* convincing than
your claim that some PDF "proves" whatever point you're trying to
make
precisely because I'm familiar with your MO. That is, you're a dumb-
ass
who would claim that that something is proved when it's not, and who
would ignore counter-examples disproving your contention. I don't
know
what this *ages old* thread is about, but I know that you're full of
shit." 21 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5114623055c01092

117-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see,
you
never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just
the
other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in
this
NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar." 13 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a

118- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion.
Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor sick fool
can
get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to hanging out with and
supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one
likes
him and those that pretend they do are just using him or don't know
him -
but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some compassion, eh?
All
these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they
are
all so alike. I pity each and every one of them" 19 Apr 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/67f0f174110bfa0a

119- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you
could
actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here." 14
Apr
2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6e3cfd9240ac4871

120- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"

121- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one
of
your Circus acts?" 20 Feb 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/25f0e481b605e71f

122- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was: Stop
polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive "writings". You
give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your goal you have
succeeded!
That also goes for all that bullshit on your website" 11 Jun 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/03610d2080321d33

123- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit.
Most
people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict
their
responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'. Just
what
would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must be
some
kind of severe mental illness." 17 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/45197fbb46d491df

124- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are
nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to
define
the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the
rules
when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I
doubt
anyone would be foolish enough to play your game." 16 May 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9b3ed1ee20e5220

125- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home more
than
he's anywhere near a classroom".

126- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental
breakdown
it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser. What a f#cked
up
mess he is." 29 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/914d1e74855fb461

127- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere
apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're the first
person
to be plonked from my new computer! :-) " 10 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/313c7368f6369c49

128- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"

129- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of posts,
to
prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like that to people
without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in the record. Ping
Snit
to do a search - you will flatter him, and give meaning to his tawdry
little life." 25 Oct 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538

130- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile.
No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye". 11 Sep 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12f7c34f24d43624

131- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw
more
people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve/Elizabot/etc'
tactic is fairly trollish."

132- Mutley (AUK):
Snit: "None are supportable. None are real. HPT made them up and is
scared to even try to support them. He knows he cannot. He knows his
lies
are being shoved in his face and that people are laughing at his
failure.
I know I am. He is a sad pathetic little man."
Mutley: "For the record ... I'll be done when I decide that there's
more
shit on your face than there is on the sole of my shoe." 01 Nov 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b


High Plains Thumper

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Dec 2, 2009, 9:53:17 PM12/2/09
to
Joel wrote:

LOL! I love it when socks hug each other!

[quote]
Snit wrote:

> I advocate for - and use - Windows, OS X and Linux (mostly'
> Ubuntu). I generally prefer OS X for most of what I do, but in
> the end, each is just a tool. I also have a brand of
> mechanical pencils I really like - but I could not imagine
> getting worked up over someone who does not like them or
> someone who prefers pens. Sure, I think my pencils work very
> well... and I can point to usability reasons I prefer them and
> suggest them to others. But this whole thing of putting
> others down for liking another OS... just whacked as far as I
> can tell.

Sure you do. As stated:

Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost
all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have
so many diverse people who share a common perception where do you
think the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The
answer doesn't require an advanced degree to figure out." 30 Dec
2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b

Spanky Da Measekite (Snit sock):
"<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/UbuntuCP.mov> Care to comment
or do you NOT understand the video?"

Alias: "Copying and pasting or cutting and pasting is a bit
different in Ubuntu. Note that the lamer who made this video
didn't know that you can select something and then just click the
wheel on your mouse and it will paste, something you can't do
with Windows and is much quicker than the lame Windows way in the
video." 19 Apr 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/9abb006c689c9e62
[/quote]

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d1ca0c9aa7f39625

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HPT

Snit

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Dec 2, 2009, 10:03:07 PM12/2/09
to
High Plains Thumper stated in post hf796s$iha$1...@news.albasani.net on 12/2/09
7:53 PM:

> LOL! I love it when socks hug each other!

We all have quirks!


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[INSERT .SIG HERE]


Tim Adams

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Dec 6, 2009, 8:42:04 PM12/6/09
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In article <C73BE00C.56FFD%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Tim Adams stated in post
> teadams$2$0$0$3-170633.06...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
> 12/2/09 4:43 AM:
>
> >> And here is what
> >
> > snits running from
>
> By forcing you to snip.
>
> Man, I am gooooood. LOL!

yet it is you that totally snipped all of the context away.

keep running snit.

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