Attn Snit: more on Silverlight vs. Flash
Tim Smith
Here's more information in response to your question earlier as to
advantages of Silverlight over Flash.
This interesting project:
<http://visitmix.com/Labs/Gestalt/>
makes it so you can do include some Javascript they provide on a web
page, and then, if the person browsing has Silverlight or Mono, do this:
<script type="text/ruby">
...ruby code...
</script>
or this:
<script type="text/python">
...python code...
</script>
This is cool, however I must admit I am somewhat mystified as to how it
actually does this.
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--Tim Smith
Snit
reply_in_group-B14...@news.supernews.com on 11/23/09 6:32 PM:
Interesting... thank you.
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7
> H
What gets me is why you two gurl fiends didn't joing DFS and his
gay emporium of delights for 30 days.
Rick
Why not take this 30 day break, if it lasts 30, to put good things about
Linux out there?
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Rick
Snit
11/24/09 2:11 PM:
I know I would like to see the focus be on Linux and not the absurd name
calling and other BS.
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chrisv
Maybe Sn^Hhit is jealous of Timmy's long-time flame Fuddie.
bb
> Here's more information in response to your question earlier as to
> advantages of Silverlight over Flash.
>
Flash is not good since it's proprietary, but at least it support many
platforms even if it can be a long delay until they all are up to the same version.
But Silverlight is under total control of Microsoft, so it's up to them
who can use the contents and features, and right now they will put a bit
more shine on the windows platform then others by expanding it.
Well, you don't think I'm right maybe, but just wait another year and
see if your mac can handle all silverlight contents, clip board, webcam,
printing, dialer and so on.
And linux with mono, it's doomed to fail, after much work when it at last
will work, Microsoft will instantly add new things that don't work, and
in the end all silverlight contents will be under DRM and impossible to
access with any open systems anyway.
The only thing that will work for us is open formats, but as long the
media industry has DRM options for the biggest market they will refuse
to publish their contents in open formats.
If we all refused DRM together as a group of Internet users _we_ should
have an advantage, instead of looking for advantages in applications.
/bb
High Plains Thumper
> Rick stated:
>> 7 wrote:
>>
>>> What gets me is why you two gurl fiends didn't joing DFS and his
>>> gay emporium of delights for 30 days.
>>
>> Why not take this 30 day break, if it lasts 30, to put good things
>> about Linux out there?
>
> I know I would like to see the focus be on Linux and not the absurd
> name calling and other BS.
Except that most of Snit's posts were off topic crap, as testified by
these 132 posters on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:
1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area and a
login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to e-mail it to
you, and a bot will send an e-mail. *That* is the e-mail Snit got
from Sandman's website, and yes he's that fucked in the head and
starved for attention that he'd claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman
himself. So, don't get sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in
this particular instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net."
27 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour
and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd
leave too. Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is
Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him." 27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
3- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the
newsgroup."
4- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to
weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole." 25 Jun 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da
5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why not
just let them go away and show how responsible a member of CSMA you
are? You could show your enemies up by being better than then, rise
above the low level you so obviously dislike. Anything, just
stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
6- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes,
then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you set to
expire, but it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578
7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone else
who has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed it to
be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and REALLY show you
to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip out pertinent points
because you are an intellectually dwarfed turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
8- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group can be
if you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more people don't
do the same.." 5 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903
9- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but
since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything." 27 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190
The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people
just can't stop feeding him."
10- °b° unny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually =:-
(" 9 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432
11- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."
12- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ... in
the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the idiotrollers like
snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts,
only your reply".
13- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so, for
they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus
depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes. It's now
far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep
2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5
14- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for you to
learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of course, that your
Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9
15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just respond
to a current message." 22 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a
16- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to
"win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must
you keep this up? What results are you expecting?"
17- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep
posting your list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will not
address it any further- you being too stupid to realize and accept
that is not my problem". 22 Nov 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8
18- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread
what I had previously written. What makes you think that you're
correctly understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of
reading into things what you wanted people to have said instead of
what they really said.
I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look
foolish."
Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all
of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many
diverse people who share a common perception where do you think the
problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't
require an advanced degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b
19- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care to read]
Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do something, but
please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290
20- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought you
knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was
presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you." 30 Nov
2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f
21- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and
loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i
stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up
responding as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for
the magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's
sharpness when i stop responding to you. you almost always start
responding back in a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's
once again that time. i can only ask that you pass my condolences to
your wife and unborn child for having to put up with such a dishonest
fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser as well, just pass
those condolences to the rug-rat to be; if not, double condolences to
her). " 30 Apr 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest and
honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the biggest
liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove Snit was
using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give up his socks
puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever support him." 28
Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the worst
troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger, and you've
almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you to post a list of
out of context arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies
labled as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need to be
center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought
it would make people look at you." 18 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
24- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see
a doctor." 24 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15
25- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points
in my post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode.
How childishly typical of you, Snit." 16 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5
26- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled since the
first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do like Snit'. As far
as I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist." 15 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0
27- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to
CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides
the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like
being in a room of really young children trying there best to best the
other person. The one common thing among all of this seems to be you.
I hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the
middle of a great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about
Macs and more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end
then all this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has
always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank it up
to the point that this place is no longer fun. Congratulations on
stopping CSMA and making this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan
2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6
28- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who uncover
his lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are
"proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d
29- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865
30- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you
crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right
at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you
into submission with his endless pedanticism. The only way to engage
him is to hit and run. NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty
procedure that will only anger you and feed him. Take my advice and
STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd
31- gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com: "Hitting the vodka tonight
Snit?" 4 Mar 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794
32- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else
notices that you are not honest and you have no honor." 21 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91
33- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate threads,
are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont ever censor
people cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna
have to cause I dont wanna see your name 40 times in a row. So uh,
change your client or something". 12 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499
34- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your BS or
actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you keep asking
for and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel." 30 Jan
2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a
Snit: "Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question I
just asked. You will run... your whole goal is to beg for attention,
not to make or support a point."
Hadron: "nice. You made it into my new killfile. Jesus, stop repeating
the same garbage." 6 Apr 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728
35- Henry Flam: "Who gives a damn about this shit? Snit, once in a
while, I make the mistake in thinking that that you are starting to
make sense in your posts; I tend to agree with your politics. Then you
post stuff like this and it destroys any respect that I have for
you." 16 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f048bedfe0d67d66
Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must a deeply trouble individual
who has a fragile ego. I needn't agree nor disagree with the points
above. I don't care about them. Your constant complaints, whines,
rages, etc., wars with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as
trolls, arise from your sense that any conversation or thread must
orbit around you. People have pointed that out to you but you don't
accept that. Snit I feel sorry for you. Please go and see a doctor
about your solipsism. There must be a cure for you deep psychological
travail." 18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8
36- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"
37- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the definition of
"synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example of how you attempt
to maliciously debase against anyone who disagrees with you. As such,
I consider this to be a purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me.
This is your only warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the
reminder that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
38- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick and
tired of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly statements
shifting the goal posts, your continuous rambling drivel of how
everyone seems to be against you. No one cares a wooden nickel about
your incessant flame wars that are self created. You pretend to be an
advocate but you manage to cause everyone's hand to be against you."
6 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f
Only once in a blue moon does he have anything worth reading. I just
got through his circus of repetitive ad hominem crap. I am surprised
that with the stunts he has pulled in COLA and this newsgroup, that he
hasn't suffered a worse fate in real life. If he hasn't, one of these
days he will pull that stunt on the wrong person, and *B-O-O-M-!*,
someone will pull the trigger. One ought to really pity him (or as
Steve Travis stated, "Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him
more happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)." 8 Jul 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2666237bba82b97a
39- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine, posting
the same following message over and over, in false pretense as a Linux
advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least. I
don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious when I
say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill, and needs
help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his wife to the
problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of his condition, if
she is in fact still living with him. It's possible, I suppose, that
he's already undergoing counselling and/or on medication, but if he is
then it doesn't seem to be helping much. Maybe he just missed his
'meds' today (again, I mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
40- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting to CSMA for
a long time now, since 1995 at least. There have always been trolls
and morons, but I've never seen anything quite so disruptive as the
Snit circus. Snit will *never* back down or stop, and neither will
most of his opponents. A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug
2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb
hophead: "It's best to killfile snit, and if you can, set up a filter
to kill any responses to snit. Or (as I've been forced to do)
killfile those who insist on responding to him. Yes, you do miss some
advocacy from some of those people, but the joy of not seeing snit or
any responses to him far outweighs the cost. Of course, snit also
uses sockpuppets. They are pretty easy to identify fortunately and are
easily killed as well." 19 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d0cb5d4f4d1cba91
41- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to offer
support for your statements, you're reduced to personal attacks on me.
Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see that I have offered no
straw men, and have only asked you to explain how the things you state
as facts can be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this
attitude, the topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have
some insights. I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and
avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was just
repeated." 6 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6
42- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh
your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over.
Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0
43- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."
44- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git." 23 Dec
2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d
45- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me
achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from
it and those kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as
this." 18 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862
46- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you accomplishing
besides being annoying? Is that your goal?" 25 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243
47- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush mentioned in
it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on topic and not hijack
threads."
48- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved
in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to
OT things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone has to take the lead
and stop this crap. Try. How about it?" 25 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b
49- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than
actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course I
suppose."
"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce evidence for
his claims. At least come up with some original insults Snit! I mean,
you *are* capable of original thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44
50- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall
- in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at
passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
51- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are
you bitching about?"
52- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like
a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain
an unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up?
Please??" 11 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121
53- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I
just consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his
name." 7 Jan 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2
54- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be shocked
that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about being a
computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and best
ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by medication. He's here to do
one thing, get attention from people. He says the crazy stuff just to
get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what he's
counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes to get a rise
out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't regret it." 3 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314
"Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without adding drinking
booze to the list. How the hell did you manage to get out of my
killfile? Oh well back into the cage you go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8
55- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this posting?
Because I certainly cannot find it."
56- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that even
though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll of the lot
is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If the few stragglers
that keep replying to him would just stop responding to Snit at all
this place could be worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll
pack up and take his trolling to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4
57- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your sentence
with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.' 29 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8
58- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of
putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your
position, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming,
hoping it'll all go away." 7 Mar 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a
59- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem
attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your
silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always have been."
14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
60- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f
61- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long time,
but the few times you post something worth reading just aren't worth
it anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83
62- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been
an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense
of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is
trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll." 16 Jul
2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f
63-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors CBS
News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit is
cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit he's wrong." 28
Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf
64- libsnightmare:
Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He
never flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like "Kerry
and all the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has resorted to
fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to
edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie.
Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4
May 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e
65- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."
"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by that
effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574
66- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)" 18 Mar
2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6
67- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser is the
same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest now, it would
be impossible to determine where the honesty starts and the usual
dishonesty ends. In my primary school, one of the teachers was very
keen on proverbs, and I recall her going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr
Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over now, and I would not come to
help him with his sheep, because I do not know any way of determining
if he's ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec
2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3
68- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it to
this post since its all about him and he managed to make me think
about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went over to her
house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute toddler stuff then
burned a DVD of it for her. While we were watching the DVD her kid got
mad. He got mad because we quit making him the center of attention and
made that kid on the tv the center of attention. He even ran up to the
tv and tried to block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole
life." 30 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b
69- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone refutes
your 'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting your 'facts' is
easily done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it." 9 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32
70- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I see
you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with everyone.
You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a compliment!" 8 Jul
2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd
71- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I
can only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens
to inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how
deranged you actually behave further reinforces this notion. Please
seek professional help."
"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot made
no threat to you before you went to the police. She made a promise.
Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out paranoiac view point,
Elizabot was suddenly "threatening" to you. In so much as you had to
take your kooky self down to your local police shop and blub on their
shoulders about how much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they
had to waste valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity.
I bet they have Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of your
profile, Snit." 2 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40
72- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious.
Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on." 18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07
73- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they are
off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring and clearly
show that you are crying out for attention." 20 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80
74- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact that
your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you claimed to KF
him. Killfilling someone generally implies you're ignoring that
person, yet you piggyback onto virtually every reply to him here and
and check his website's validation status more often than most people
check their e-mail. These are not the actions of a mentally balanced
individual." 19 Jan 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b
75- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two
about social behavior." 16 May 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4
76- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are
trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me." 24 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad9daff74ee1e0bd
Muahman: "LOL, everyone hates Snit. I know I'd push him in front of a
bus if I could." 15 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e5ee46bf5bf04d00
Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit retard
circus!!! I actually dread seeing Snit reply to a thread because that
automatically means it's in the toilet." 8 Jul 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701
77- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced
that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I
certainly am now. Why bother responding to his stupidities anyway?"
29 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508
78- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry sense
of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just a waste of
time, and you've done more than anybody to make this group a cesspool.
Then you revel in wallowing in your own filth." 14 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274
79- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling as
children in the back seat of the family car saying:
Mom, 'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do now ...
I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is that by now
you should've grown out of that type of poke and complain interaction
with others. But, of course, you've haven't learned how to interact
with others in a more 'constructive' and mutually beneficial manner
even now." 03 Jul 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4
80- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I
killfiled him?" 27 Nov 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257
81- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and
desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of
things." 2 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e
82- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending
Author, example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill this
Author' Click 'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your
choice. Then to see your work... Choose the Filter Menu again, Then
'Refilter Articles'... Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about
nothing. Enjoy!!!!!" 14 Aug 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec
83- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that matter, Snit,
for whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769
84- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> "
85- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone who
talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable" you appear
to be the least honest and honorable of anyone here." 22 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4
86- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher
but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten
seconds later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c
87- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take your
argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77
88- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and
someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon he
has something useful to say."
89- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has
told me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."
90- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as
dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma posters
even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There are certainly
other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no others are so intent
on trolling in whatever way possible as Snot" 15 Mar 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3409d9582dcebd25
91- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu".
92- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions." 1 Nov
2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277
93- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you
single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate
their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond in kind, etc.
ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for Macs and your
overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what convinces me that your
primary purpose for frequenting this and other groups is to troll."
07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
94- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."
95- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash
people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous
situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going
on." 06 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b
96- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a
troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a
troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92
97- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you
quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the
shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk
of looking ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If
that's your goal, you're on the right track, and more power to you."
11 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d
98- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's thing is
twisting your words so he can win an argument against a straw man.
That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42
99- Rotten Apple:
Snit: "The truth? Carroll has openly admitted he does what he accuses
others of... now there is evidence he is committing identity theft -
the very thing he accuses me of based on his claiming I am not the
person he has tracked me down to be."
Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir boys." 14 Sep
2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb
Snit: "No need for him to worry - unlike him, I would not even
threaten to contact his wife. I simply will not sink to his level. I
suspect his wife will find out anyway - people are not as stupid as he
wants them to be."
Rotten Apple: "Your meds are really kicking your ass!" 15 Sep 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5e414c27d6357a4a
100- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and
how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you requesting
help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As
the old saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your
posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08
101- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless. You
must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much as
you." 29 Dec 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d
102- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY-
of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news
group before. He has the ability to turn just about any person against
him in just a few posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the
funny part with Michael is that I actually think he DOESN'T consider
himself be a troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him.
Obviously they are wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this
behaviour." 18 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2
103- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly,
even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more
sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?" 25 May 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370
104- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to
remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1
105- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts trash
just to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1
106- spike1: "The thought is probably to show everyone here just how
bad a troll snit is".
107- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing
anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he
thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's
pretty smart. indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and
the iq tests and he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well
adjusted." 3 Mar 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7f9fa1cf90490298
108- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that he
has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll(or worse) by the vast
majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."
109- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of
elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the
"Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun
to smell like elephant dung." 18 Aug 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9fc11094133dfcdf
Welcome to the Snit circus, where the popcorn and cotton candy are
stale, and the smell of elephant dung is everywhere. 27 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/614daf295b50413f
110- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility with me
for your rediculous argument regarding this." 26 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c8777d39c34e293
111- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost
all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'asses'
when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally superior snit
have fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of your busy schedule
to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get
him more happy glue (and the appropriate plastic bags)." 27 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3edd9ab69425a6c5
112- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him
then. A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be." 15 Aug 2006
(post not available except in reply)
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b382420a696f140
113- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): "In other words, in another attempt to
troll, you made yourself look like a fool. Again". 28 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b2676d3540e09f38
114- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my killbin, I
can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322
115- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're the one
lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically amount to "I'm
right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples someone points at to
demonstrate their claim, you blindly continue to insist that they
provide no evidence, or that the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse
still, you fall back on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to
portray the argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls
that inhabit CSMA, Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than
you are." 23 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d488596b57132124
116- Thufir: "It's based on *your* MO that I, at least, have no
problem in stating that you're full of shit on nearly any topic. I've
observed your bullshit, and based on that pattern of bullshit, infer
that you're full of it. Your MO is the evidence, the logic is an
inference based on the evidence." 21 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c89d3cf79e806e5f
Thufir: "You can "prove" that no one has disproved your "proof"?
Again, your assertion that no one has done so is even *less*
convincing than your claim that some PDF "proves" whatever point
you're trying to make precisely because I'm familiar with your MO.
That is, you're a dumb-ass who would claim that that something is
proved when it's not, and who would ignore counter-examples disproving
your contention. I don't know what this *ages old* thread is about,
but I know that you're full of shit." 21 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5114623055c01092
117-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see,
you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why
just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of
liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
118- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor
sick fool can get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to hanging out
with and supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that
no-one likes him and those that pretend they do are just using him or
don't know him - but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some
compassion, eh? All these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy,
MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are all so alike. I pity each and every
one of them" 19 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/67f0f174110bfa0a
119- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you
could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here."
14 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6e3cfd9240ac4871
120- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"
121- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one
of your Circus acts?" 20 Feb 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/25f0e481b605e71f
122- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was: Stop
polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive "writings". You
give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your goal you have
succeeded! That also goes for all that bullshit on your website" 11
Jun 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/03610d2080321d33
123- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit.
Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict
their responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'.
Just what would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity?
Must be some kind of severe mental illness." 17 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/45197fbb46d491df
124- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are
nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to
define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend
the rules when inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this
reason I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to play your game." 16
May 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9b3ed1ee20e5220
125- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home more
than he's anywhere near a classroom".
126- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental
breakdown it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser. What a
f#cked up mess he is." 29 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/914d1e74855fb461
127- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're the
first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-) " 10 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/313c7368f6369c49
128- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"
129- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of posts, to
prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like that to people
without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in the record. Ping
Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and give meaning to his
tawdry little life." 25 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538
130- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile. No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye". 11 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12f7c34f24d43624
131- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw
more people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve/Elizabot/
etc' tactic is fairly trollish."
132- Mutley (AUK):
Snit: "None are supportable. None are real. HPT made them up and is
scared to even try to support them. He knows he cannot. He knows his
lies are being shoved in his face and that people are laughing at his
failure. I know I am. He is a sad pathetic little man."
Mutley: "For the record ... I'll be done when I decide that there's
more shit on your face than there is on the sole of my shoe." 01 Nov
2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b
--
HPT
Snit
Nice in theory... but very, very unlikely to happen.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
TomB
>> have an advantage, instead of looking for advantages in applications.
>>
To bad really. That way the industry will keep ramming broken products
down our throaths.
I stopped buying CDs when publishers started to rape the format in
favour of hazy copy protection schemes. It is still my right to make
back-up copies and to make sure I can listen to the music on any of my
devices.
I did the same thing with DVDs when publishers started to implement
stuff such as RipGuard (which also violates the format's
specifications.
I now download my music and movies, and the industry has to thank
itself for that.
To satisfy my need to physically own music, I started collecting
second hand vinyl again.
--
There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you
do something we'd all love one another.
~ Frank Zappa
Snit
PM:
> On 2009-11-26, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> bb stated in post helnae$k3t$1...@news.al.sw.ericsson.se on 11/26/09 4:03 AM:
>>> If we all refused DRM together as a group of Internet users _we_ should
>>> have an advantage, instead of looking for advantages in applications.
>>>
>> Nice in theory... but very, very unlikely to happen.
>
> To bad really. That way the industry will keep ramming broken products
> down our throaths.
Well, they will offer them and people will use them. People look to see
what works for them *now*, not thinking what the consequences are for the
industry. There are some people who this is different for - many of the
Linux desktop users use Linux based on philosophical reasons, *not*
technical or because it works better for them. There are signs, as desktop
Linux improves, that this might be changing... though I suspect we are still
a while away from seeing people in any great numbers use desktop Linux
because of its functionality.
> I stopped buying CDs when publishers started to rape the format in
> favour of hazy copy protection schemes. It is still my right to make
> back-up copies and to make sure I can listen to the music on any of my
> devices.
>
> I did the same thing with DVDs when publishers started to implement
> stuff such as RipGuard (which also violates the format's
> specifications.
>
> I now download my music and movies, and the industry has to thank
> itself for that.
>
> To satisfy my need to physically own music, I started collecting
> second hand vinyl again.
How many people do you know who do that? I assume there must be some level
of backlash from it... hence the reason the iTunes store went to DRM free.
It really is one of the great success stories in that area.
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