Any information might be of benefit.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Here, let me help:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/813c5da1e9f3fc05
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:02:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Linux? What's that? My own survey.
[quote]
Elizabeth posted information about me obtained from the college
website where I work, including what type of classes I teach and
the days I work. [...]
o Elizabeth posted specific information on where I work and made
thinly veiled threats, again, to send her lies to my employer: "I
can only hope someone from Yavapai College in Prescott Arizona
figures out what a disgusting individual you really are, Mr.
Michael Glasser." <1211h418a41u...@corp.supernews.com>
[/quote]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.test/msg/7fc94ffa0e9c05c0
Newsgroups: alt.test
From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:42:47 -0700
Subject: ELIZABETH'S OBSESSIVE ACTIONS
[quote]
ELIZABETH'S OBSESSIVE ACTIONS
Elizabeth (who is also known by her sock puppet name: "Elizabot")
denies her obsession with me; yet here are just some of the [...]
o Elizabeth posted specific information on where I work and made
thinly veiled threats, again, to send her lies to my employer: "I
can only hope someone from Yavapai College in Prescott Arizona
figures out what a disgusting individual you really are, Mr.
Michael Glasser." <1211h418a41u...@corp.supernews.com>
[/quote]
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Peter Köhlmann <peter.koehlm...@arcor.de>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:28:51 +0200
Subject: Re: Single Request to Peter K.
[quote]
> His website's a laugh.
You mean
which is the very same one as
http://prescottcomputerguy.org
[...]
> "Now in Prescott for several years, I have been working at
> Yavapai College teaching computer classes: everything from
> introductory classes"
[/quote]
Never mind someone who keeps posting employment information on
his website and continuously up to recent referring to that
website here in Usenet.
So I'm a threat? Snit has pulled this stupid stunt before, and
it just goes to show that he is nothing more than a nutter.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/de72f5b614ab0237
Yes, go to the police, same stunt pulled in 2005.
Snit has a vividly wild imagination.
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/snit-troll.html
[quote]
Name: snit
Traits:
* MAC troll
* Cross posts to maximize newsgroup disruption
* Despised by many on COLA and COMA (comp.os.mac.advocacy)
* Proves the saying 'those that can do, those that can't teach'
* Idiot
[/quote]
--
HPT
> Snit wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper has shown himself to be a potential danger
>> - he has repeatedly threatened to contact my employer and
>> make false accusations of libel. If anyone has any examples
>> of HPT doing this in other instances, please send me
>> information in email. I have contacted the police and they
>> are looking into this, but added information could only help.
>> I will not, of course, speak of details in this forum.
>>
>> Any information might be of benefit.
>
> Here, let me help:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/813c5da1e9f3fc05
>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
> From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:02:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: Linux? What's that? My own survey.
>
> [quote]
> Elizabeth posted information about me obtained from the college
> website where I work, including what type of classes I teach and
> the days I work. [...]
And she was told by the police to stop posting to CSMA for six months... a
form of online restraining order (I forget the real name for the thing).
She complied and then opted to not post for about six more, and even now
essentially never posts.
Frankly I do not want to see this "event" go that far. It is absurd for
you to act as you are simply because you do not agree with me that choice is
a good thing for users... that desktop Linux users would benefit from choice
You started with name calling and posting libelous statements where you
dishonestly claimed I had doctored images - though you made no effort to
show any support.
You have escalated to targeting my business and, more recently, to making
public threats to send libelous comments to my employer. Can you not see
where there is over the top - simply because you do not like my pro-choice
views? We are not even talking the *big* pro-choice debate, abortion, we
are merely talking about desktop Linux users having or not having the choice
to be able to use and control a well thought out and consistent UI.
I say users should have that choice. You disagree with me. Fine. Is it
such a big deal to you that you have to act as you are?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Officer, officer! I am being picked on by a female poster! She
wrote my dean and told him what an awful puss I am! She is now
on parole for writing that awful letter!
Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! You really are a nutter!
> Frankly I do not want to see this "event" go that far. It is
> absurd for you to act as you are simply because you do not
> agree with me that choice is a good thing for users... that
> desktop Linux users would benefit from choice
>
> You started with name calling and posting libelous statements
> where you dishonestly claimed I had doctored images - though
> you made no effort to show any support.
>
> You have escalated to targeting my business and, more
> recently, to making public threats to send libelous comments
> to my employer.
You are full of it!
> Can you not see where there is over the top - simply because
> you do not like my pro-choice views?
Another of your Linux abortions? Bwaaahaaahaaahaa!
> We are not even talking the *big* pro-choice debate, abortion,
> we are merely talking about desktop Linux users having or not
> having the choice to be able to use and control a well thought
> out and consistent UI.
Oh, dry up, troll.
> I say users should have that choice. You disagree with me.
> Fine. Is it such a big deal to you that you have to act as
> you are?
Choice of what? To continue to listen to your nutter drivel?
You are truly insane!
--
HPT
...
>> You have escalated to targeting my business and, more
>> recently, to making public threats to send libelous comments
>> to my employer.
>
> You are full of it!
>
>> Can you not see where there is over the top - simply because
>> you do not like my pro-choice views?
>
> Another of your Linux abortions? Bwaaahaaahaaahaa!
>
>> We are not even talking the *big* pro-choice debate, abortion,
>> we are merely talking about desktop Linux users having or not
>> having the choice to be able to use and control a well thought
>> out and consistent UI.
>
> Oh, dry up, troll.
>
>> I say users should have that choice. You disagree with me.
>> Fine. Is it such a big deal to you that you have to act as
>> you are?
>
> Choice of what? To continue to listen to your nutter drivel?
> You are truly insane!
Your denials and insults do not make the Google record go away. In any
case: all of your anger over my advocating for user choice is clearly not
rational. I am curious, though, if you can explain what about my views on
increased user choice has you so worked up. Where do you disagree? Why do
you want choice to be limited? Let us move the discussion back to Linux...
and, please, stop cross posting just to get attention.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
>> I say users should have that choice. You disagree with me.
>> Fine. Is it such a big deal to you that you have to act as
>> you are?
>
> Choice of what?
I have explained this in the past, but will do so again:
It is clear that a well thought out and consistent UI is a benefit to
user... when users have minimal arbitrarily inconsistency in their print
dialogs and save dialogs and color selectors and text services and common
menu items and common hot keys, etc., they are able to be more efficient,
they make fewer errors, and they report greater satisfaction.
Some in COLA have claimed to have reasons to not want this on their own
desktop. Fine. I support them having that choice. But why reject others
choices? Why not support the idea of other users (and distro managers, of
course) having the ability to build such systems.
I really do not understand why one would be against such choice. Please,
HPT, do explain your disagreement.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> Snit wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>
>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/813c5da1e9f3fc05
>>>
>>> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>> From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:02:48 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: Linux? What's that? My own survey.
>>>
>>> [quote]
>>> Elizabeth posted information about me obtained from the
>>> college website where I work, including what type of classes
>>> I teach and the days I work. [...]
>>
>> And she was told by the police to stop posting to CSMA for six
>> months... a form of online restraining order (I forget the
>> real name for the thing). She complied and then opted to not
>> post for about six more, and even now essentially never posts.
>
> Officer, officer! I am being picked on by a female poster! She
> wrote my dean and told him what an awful puss I am! She is now
> on parole for writing that awful letter!
>
> Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! You really are a nutter!
Well, it is high time that the authorities in Prescott are informed that a
mentally ill and probably dangerous imbecile is coming near children, as
his wife seems to be running a day care now (has Michael Glasser succeeded
in destroying their "computer business"? Have his "victims^H^H^H^Hclients"
wisened up to what a nutcase claims to be "knowledgeable" about
computers?)
*That* is a case for the authorities to step in.
The bullshit from Snot Michael Glasser is simply a waste of otherwise
fine, usable electrons
--
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you with experience...
Wow... more libel from another COLA "advocate" who is mad I advocate for
more choice for desktop Linux users.
Just sick.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Wow. You really are a nasty piece of work.
All I see is him (repeatably for sure) asking you and other "advocates"
to explain why you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is
bad for Linux. None of you appear able to explain. YOu also seem unable
to read and understand the UI documents we have repeatedly linked to.
And you stoop is Willy Poaster levels.
--
In view of all the deadly computer viruses that have been spreading
lately, Weekend Update would like to remind you: when you link up to
another computer, you’re linking up to every computer that that
computer has ever linked up to. — Dennis Miller
And don't forget that Michael Snit Glasser also threatened blackmail on
someone:
<quote>
Just to be clear, though, I have not told her word one about any of his
activities and almost surely will not. If he posts a public apology and
states he will never repeat such actions I will certainly not.
<unquote>
Message-ID: <C4B9FA34.CD1AA%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>
--
Conficker, coming to a M$ windows
machine near you!
2 million infected, & counting:
http://securitylabs.websense.com/content/Alerts/3329.aspx
Fine. So I have to sink several miles to reach your or Glassers level?
Did you notice that he claimed to have "contacted the police" because of
HPT? For the sole reason that HPT is getting under that idiotic liars
skin?
Snot Michael Glasser needs a shrink ASAP, and it has to be made absolutely
certain that that imbecile is not getting anywhere near other peoples
children
> All I see is him (repeatably for sure) asking you and other "advocates"
> to explain why you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is
> bad for Linux.
I don't see his bullshit, and I don't intend to ever see it again
And no, he does not do what you claim.
He is constantly hijacking threads with his lies, constantly snipping
every questions asked of him, and inserting ad nauseum his made up
garbage, misquoting what other people have written.
His "researched choice" is at best "choice" already rejected by the users
and developers of KDE and Gnome, and otherwise simply the "choice to
remove choice", which is welcome like the plague
Why do you think that only lunatics like Glasser think about UIs? There
are whole teams inside KDE and Gnome which have dedicated their work to
the UIs of those DEs, and you can be certain that bacteria living on the
skin of those people know more about UI design than twits like Snot
Glasser or you will ever know
> None of you appear able to explain.
You meant "nobody is willing to"
It is pointless to "discuss" with that dishonest swine
> YOu also seem unable
> to read and understand the UI documents we have repeatedly linked to.
Your bullshit is of no interest whatsoever
And I don't see *any* links Snot Glasser posts, except when quoted.
And I certainly will not waste my time with forged "evidence" he publishes
on his website. Rule of thumb is: *Everything* on Snot Michael Glassers
site is forged and/or simply an outright lie. And no posturing of you
cretinous twits will change that perception
> And you stoop is Willy Poaster levels.
>
?????
--
Microsoft's Guide To System Design:
Flakey and built to stay that way.
Frankly, I dare the twit to call the police, because he does not
have the guts to. He is nothing but a lying, snivelling coward.
And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
No educator should behave as he. They are typically regarded as
role models to the younger, persons of integrity, moral fibre.
No, instead, he purposely trolls newsgroups to post his truth
fabrications and elicit angry replies, which he continually seeks
and feeds.
Any police officer who reads these captured records in Google
Groups will see what an emotionally deranged twit Michael Glasser
is. Besides, it would be a civil matter, not a criminal one.
The LEO's in Prescott have enough problems on their hands dealing
with rapists, murderers, thieves, highway intoxication, public
property defacement, child and spouse abusers, forgers, etc.
Did I say forgers, LOL? Well Michael, you want to call the
police? Go right ahead, be my guest. They'll have a nice padded
cell with a bed and stainless steel toilet-sink without seat.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
> Quack snotted:
>>
>> Wow. You really are a nasty piece of work.
What have I told you about posting while looking in the mirror, Quack?
>> All I see is him (repeatably for sure) asking you and other "advocates"
>> to explain why you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is
>> bad for Linux.
It's been done, ad nauseum, asshole. Fsckwits like you and Shit
denying the explanations doesn't mean they don't exist.
>His "researched choice" is at best "choice" already rejected by the users
>and developers of KDE and Gnome, and otherwise simply the "choice to
>remove choice", which is welcome like the plague
Yes, according to Shit, we are "against choice" if we don't agree that
we should *restrict* choice.
What a troll!
> High Plains Thumper has shown himself to be a potential danger - he has
> repeatedly threatened to contact my employer and make false accusations
> of libel.
How about documenting those claims? Why have you posted your personal
information to Usenet anyway? Aren't you supposed to own a computer
business? Why would HPT contact you about you?
> If anyone has any examples of HPT doing this in other
> instances, please send me information in email. I have contacted the
> police and they are looking into this, but added information could only
> help. I will not, of course, speak of details in this forum.
>
> Any information might be of benefit.
You'll have to see a doctor to get the information that benefits you the
most.
1) Why do you think it is surprising to *anyone* that a nine-year
old girl (who you bizarrely and offensively consider to be below
you on the evolutionary ladder) would not be able to use Linux,
especially with the help you keep dishonestly denying was available?
2) Why do you think Linux is so hard to install that several people
in COLA would not be able to do so (a claim you go back and forth
in making and then denying you made!)?
3) It is clear you do not get the well established benefits of a
consistent UI; but why are you against desktop Linux offer the
the choice of such a UI to people who do value higher quality?
Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question I just asked.
You will run... your whole goal is to beg for attention, not to make or
support a point.
> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
> lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece of shit
on usenet. Just like the rest of your freetard ilk.
> No educator should behave as he.
And since when does the worthless opinion of a nym-shifting liar like you
matter one iota?
> No educator should behave as he. They are typically regarded as
> role models to the younger, persons of integrity, moral fibre.
> No, instead, he purposely trolls newsgroups to post his truth
> fabrications and elicit angry replies, which he continually seeks
> and feeds.
What makes you think role models should not advocate choice?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
>
> "High Plains Thumper" <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> message news:49da04ae$0$3337$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
>
>> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
>> lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
>
> So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece of
> shit on usenet.
Wrong. It is long overdue to stop Snot Glasser cold in his tracks.
Note that Glasser claims to have called the police on occasions, and he
claims other sorts of harrassments also. It simply does not matter if true
or not. Glasser is the dishonest lying filth who can't stand being
constinuously being shown what kind of POS he really is
He deserves everything coming at him, in spades
> Just like the rest of your freetard ilk.
Nice. Throw in the rest just for good measure. No matter if or not they
agree with whatever
>> No educator should behave as he.
>
> And since when does the worthless opinion of a nym-shifting liar like
> you matter one iota?
It does count lots more than yours, Scott Ezekiel Nudds
--
I hear if you play the Windows XP CD backward you'll hear satanic
messages. But even scarier, if you play it forward it installs
Windows XP!!
Exactly. I admit, I have been pushing the "advocates" to explain their
anti-choice stance. Peter and RonB and High Plains Thumper are acting
bizarrely though! They are accusing me of forging data - though *none* can
show a single example of this; of using sock puppetry - though the best
"evidence" they can muster is HPT's claim that somehow, though he cannot say
how, my noting I quoted someone correctly is an indication of sock puppetry;
and worse. Now they have sunk even further and are trying to effect my
personal and professional life... which speaks very, very poorly of them.
What they have not done, of course, is explain why they are against choices
or, even more to the point, why even thinking of such choices is so
offensive to them. It is amazing!
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Nice attempt to defend the High Plains Rafael scumbag.
> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>
>> "High Plains Thumper" <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> message news:49da04ae$0$3337$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
>>
>>> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a lying,
>>> worthless, depraved twit he is?
>>
>> So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece of
>> shit on usenet.
>
> Wrong. It is long overdue to stop Snot Glasser cold in his tracks.
No, it's not. Barring knowledge of actual criminal activity, what
happens on Usenet should stay on Usenet.
If you don't like what somebody posts, just ignore that person's posts.
Nobody should have their livelihood or anything else in the real world
jeopardized no matter how bad of a troll they are.
<snip>
Exactly. He made a big, big mistake: he made public threats to spread libel
outside of Usenet... and now he and his friends are crying that he has been
called on it.
I would prefer that the whole "incident" end here. This is beyond silly.
This whole thing has grown from a disagreement as to whether or not the
overwhelming evidence of UI consistency is accurate (I say it is) and
whether or not people should have the choice to have such consistency, even
if others do not value or even understand it (I say they should).
Frankly that such a debate would escalate as it now has is just absurd.
Can't everyone just calm down a little a go back to talking about the topics
at hand... or just ignore the topics if they are somehow more than they can
handle in a reasonable way.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> Quack snotted:
>>>
>>> Wow. You really are a nasty piece of work.
>
> What have I told you about posting while looking in the mirror, Quack?
>
>>> All I see is him (repeatably for sure) asking you and other "advocates"
>>> to explain why you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is
>>> bad for Linux.
>
> It's been done, ad nauseum, asshole. Fsckwits like you and Shit
> denying the explanations doesn't mean they don't exist.
Please point to where you and the other "advocates" have explained why
choice is a bad thing. Seriously: I do not recall any such post.
If you can point to such a post we can, hopefully, get things back on topic
and not focus on the absurd escalation this debate has grown into!
>> His "researched choice" is at best "choice" already rejected by the users
>> and developers of KDE and Gnome, and otherwise simply the "choice to
>> remove choice", which is welcome like the plague
>
> Yes, according to Shit, we are "against choice" if we don't agree that
> we should *restrict* choice.
>
> What a troll!
What restriction of choice do you think I am supporting? From a post
earlier today, where I was asked to explain my views again:
-----
While I think there is value in cross-computer consistency,
that is not the type of consistency I am talking about. I am
talking consistency *within* a system... so that if a user is
using multiple programs on their computer they can have the
same common dialogs (such a print and save), the same common
hot keys and menu items (such as print and save and quit and
find... some of that is already somewhat standardized), the
same common tools (such as color selectors and text
services).
This should not be immutable: if a user has a need for a
different color selector in one program, for example, *of
course* they should be able to select that - though such
options likely would not be apparent to the general user (or
they might... and it might be different in different
distros!)
If desktop Linux matured to this level, as it likely at least
largely will, then Distro A could have print and save dialogs
which were very, very simple - no clutter or side tasks
included in the dialogs. Disto B, however, could have
dialogs with every feature under the sun: Save dialogs with
options to rename and move and delete files, for example, or
to have the ability to convert print jobs to PDFs and send
the output to other programs in the Print dialog.
These choices - that the distro manager and the end user can
make - would be seen in KDE and Gnome software and in other
software as well (or, really, *could* - remember, they are
not mandated in any way).
Now I am under no illusion that someone can pull a magic
switch and make this happen and have it effect older
software. That is not, likely, possible. But if KDE and
Gnome got together and came up with some method of having
this level of interoperability and provide it in a way that
is easy for developers, then you can bet most developers of
current software would jump on board - I strongly believe
developers *want* their software to be as usable as
reasonably possible. Clearly this would be a benefit to
usability.
Some software, of course, would never be migrated to the
unified UI API (or whatever). So be it. I do not expect
that any OS will have 100% consistency or 100% perfect
usability... there will always be changes and growth in UI
standards and concepts that developers should in no way be
discouraged from working with to fit someone else's idea of
what is best.
-----
What choice do you think I am asking to be restricted?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:47:38 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "High Plains Thumper" <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>> message news:49da04ae$0$3337$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
>>>
>>>> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
>>>> lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
>>>
>>> So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece
>>> of shit on usenet.
>>
>> Wrong. It is long overdue to stop Snot Glasser cold in his tracks.
>
> No, it's not. Barring knowledge of actual criminal activity, what
> happens on Usenet should stay on Usenet.
Nope. Snot Glasser has taken it out of usenet several times
He should live with all the consequences
> If you don't like what somebody posts, just ignore that person's posts.
I do. I have that dishonest POS killfiled. And yet I get to see *massive*
amounts of his garbage due to quoting.
Since usually only a small part of his filth is quoted, he must simply
flood COLA with his bullshit. I would guess that he has repeat posts of
*exactly* the same, totally unrelated crap in about every thread his
opponents post to. It is his usual MO when getting cornered
> Nobody should have their livelihood or anything else in the real world
> jeopardized no matter how bad of a troll they are.
Oh, it most certainly should. Someone like Snot Glasser who *has* taken
things out of COLA (according to himself, several times) absolutely should
face the consequences of his own actions
--
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
I understand your points, Peter.
But consider two things:
Snit's wife and child are innocent bystanders who may be hurt in an
attempt to punish him.
He may not be who he claims to be, so an innocent third party may receive
the consequences of Snit's actions.
Pitiful! Pitiiiiiiiiiiiful!
If she is still with him, it is entirely her fault
> He may not be who he claims to be, so an innocent third party may
> receive the consequences of Snit's actions.
Extremely unlikely
--
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend: and inside a dog,
it's too dark to read." -- Groucho Marx
> Sermo Malifer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:47:38 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "High Plains Thumper" <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>> message news:49da04ae$0$3337$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
>>>>
>>>>> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
>>>>> lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
>>>>
>>>> So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece
>>>> of shit on usenet.
>>>
>>> Wrong. It is long overdue to stop Snot Glasser cold in his tracks.
>>
>> No, it's not. Barring knowledge of actual criminal activity, what
>> happens on Usenet should stay on Usenet.
>
> Nope. Snot Glasser has taken it out of usenet several times
> He should live with all the consequences
Do you have examples? Of course not.
>> If you don't like what somebody posts, just ignore that person's posts.
>
> I do. I have that dishonest POS killfiled. And yet I get to see *massive*
> amounts of his garbage due to quoting.
> Since usually only a small part of his filth is quoted, he must simply
> flood COLA with his bullshit. I would guess that he has repeat posts of
> *exactly* the same, totally unrelated crap in about every thread his
> opponents post to. It is his usual MO when getting cornered
You repeatedly speak of me in dishonest ways... see above for an example.
>> Nobody should have their livelihood or anything else in the real world
>> jeopardized no matter how bad of a troll they are.
>
> Oh, it most certainly should. Someone like Snot Glasser who *has* taken
> things out of COLA (according to himself, several times) absolutely should
> face the consequences of his own actions
Again: you are merely making up stories about me.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
I actually think someone is forging Peter here. Surely he can't be this
much of a lying scumbag?
> "Ezekiel" <nowher...@zeke.com> writes:
>
>> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:grdbnb$dcq$01$1...@news.t-online.com...
>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "High Plains Thumper" <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>> message news:49da04ae$0$3337$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
>>>>
>>>>> And so what if I contact his employer(s)? And tell them what a
>>>>> lying, worthless, depraved twit he is?
>>>>
>>>> So what if you did??? That would make you the most disgusting piece of
>>>> shit on usenet.
>>>
>>> Wrong. It is long overdue to stop Snot Glasser cold in his tracks.
>>> Note that Glasser claims to have called the police on occasions, and he
>>> claims other sorts of harrassments also. It simply does not matter if true
>>> or not. Glasser is the dishonest lying filth who can't stand being
>>> constinuously being shown what kind of POS he really is
>>> He deserves everything coming at him, in spades
>>>
>>
>> Nice attempt to defend the High Plains Rafael scumbag.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I actually think someone is forging Peter here. Surely he can't be this
> much of a lying scumbag?
Yes. He can. He spews accusations he knows he will *never* support. He
demands message IDs from people left and right, but he will *never* support
his claims against me.
He is a very, very angry little man.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
He's always looking for ways to prevent people to post in COLA, he disagrees
with.
Do you remember his plea to make COLA a moderated group?
LMFAO!
Easy targets are the ones who post some kind of private information on
Usenet, like you.
Because of his limited skills he hasn't figured out my real name.
He's trying this for a few years now.
All he comes up with are people who post zillions of messages on Usenet for
many years (flatfish and K-man).
The poor useless tosser cancelled one of my free photo accounts at
Angelfire, because of a picture he didn't like.
http://w4.wikifortio.com/node-fs/download/c470ca5b5147532f8b34838332b7e4c4/marriage.jpg
"Marti & HPT, joined forever to hunt down their mutual enemy: *Clogwog* ".
;-)
I can't give you information about him contacting my employer, simply
because I have no employer and because George hasn't figured out my real
name and identity.
Sometimes I pretend that I have an employer in one of my coastal defense
projects and the only one in COLA who checks all the information I give is
George Hostler AKA HPT.
That shows that he's always hunting for prey!
What a pathetic little man he is!
> He's [worthless troll verbiage snipped]. The poor useless
> tosser cancelled one of my free photo accounts at Angelfire,
> because of a picture he didn't like.
Nope, terminated because of abuse, which goes to show all this
dirty minded worthless troll is good for.
> http://w4.wikifortio.com/node-fs/download/c470ca5b5147532f8b34838332b7e4c4/marriage.jpg
>
> "Marti & HPT, [snip Gary's lies]
"403 Access Denied"
However for these, /access enabled/:
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/snit-troll.html
Chesaar der Anusfluit is Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/15886e781615d893
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/09/clogwog-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/flatfish-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/01/moshe-goldfarb-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/11/sandeep-kumar.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/12/gary-m-stewart.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2009/02/doctor-smith.html
--
HPT
How can a pit of lying hypocrite weenie MS-haters such as cola "advocates"
be abused?
This is the group where a loser "advocate" blamed Hans Reiser's murderous
rampage on Microsoft.
This is the group where loser "advocates" blame all Linux failure on
Microsoft.
This is the group where a loser "advocate" physically helped an oil-drilling
firm ruin Nigeria's natural resources, then whined that the Gates Foundation
does the same just by investing in the common stock of oil companies.
This is a group where loser "advocates" claim Linux is on every desktop in
China.
Understand?
> Understand?
Here, let me help, DFS at his best.
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/dfs-troll.html
"Traits:
* Racist
* Habitual liar
* Microsoft apologist"
From: "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Buh Bye!, Windows! Vista will be the last version of
Windows for Pentium 4 and Core Duo owners
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:11:16 -0500
Message-ID: <4Iu3i.505$px2...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
[quote]
Click heels together three times, wave your magic wand, then open
your eyes and whaddaya see? Not much - it's dark inside your
large intestine.
[/quote]
Lowering your already pathetic low standards to that troll's
level just makes you look incredibly stupid.
Showing off that glass double-wide of yours again I see...
--
|||
In a free market, the herd should be irrelevant. / | \
Dear:
[ X ] Clueless Newbie [ X ] Lamer [ ] AOLer
[ X ] "Me too" er [ X ] Pervert [ X ] Geek
[ X ] Spammer [ ] Nerd [ ]
Elvis
[ ] Fed [ X ] Freak
[ ] Scientologist
[ ] Scammer [ X ] Dumbass [ X ] Pre-teen
[ X ] Linux Lunatic [ X ] Nazi [ X ] Retard
[ X ] Loser [ X ] Other
You Are Being Flamed Because:
[ ] You posted MODs in pieces LESS than 5000 lines
[ ] You posted something asking for warez sites
[ ] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply
[ X ] You continued a long, stupid thread
[ X ] You started an off-topic thread
[ X ] You posted a "YOU SUCK" message
[ X ] You haven't learned the difference between E-mail and newsgroups
[ X ] You posted a blatently obvious troll
[ ] You posted pretending to be someone famous (See "troll" above)
[ ] You replied to the above message type believing it was actually
someone famous
[ X ] You said "me too" to something
[ X ] You suck
[ X ] You posted racist s***
[ ] You don't know which group to post in
[ X ] You brag about things that never happened
[ X ] Your sig/alias/server sucks
[ ] You posted a lame-sex ad
[ ] You posted a stupid pyramid money making scheme and claimed it was
legal
[ X ] I think you might be a fed
[ ] You posted in ElItE CaPiTaLs because you think that makes you cool
[ X ] You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally
worthless that you are being flamed anyway
To Repent, You Must:
[ X ] Stop masturbating for a week
[ ] Give up your AOL account
[ X ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[ X ] Tell your Mommy you've been a bad boy
[ X ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[ X ] Actually post something relevant
[ X ] Read the FAQ
[ X ] Get a clue
[ X ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month
[ X ] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
[ X ] Post your tests to alt.test/misc.test
In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
[ ] Blow me
[ X ] Get a life
[ X ] Never post again
[ X ] Age 10 more years before you post again
[ X ] I pity your dog
[ X ] I think your IQ must be 7
[ X ] Go to hell
[ X ] Yer momma's so fat/stupid/ugly etc...
[ X ] Take your s**t somewhere else
[ X ] Get f**ked, you pathetic loser
[ X ] Learn to post or f**k off
[ X ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment
[ X ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet
[ X ] All of the above
He doesn't get it.
It's obvious from HPT's USENET post collecting hobbies that he has some
kind of severe psychological problem.
We can only encourage him to get the mental health counseling that he
needs.
HPT is looking for "friends" online. That is why he glommed on to the COLA
"advocates", with their insanity and that is why he is begging to be
accepted by the "Cretin Crew" (Carroll, Wally, and Adams). He is willing to
parrot their "arguments", no matter how insane, just to win their favor.
At least Carroll thinks he has a grievance... he freaked out in 2004 over
the loss of his girlfriend... but HPT does not even have that excuse (as
poor and irrational as it is!)
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> He doesn't get it.
> It's obvious from HPT's USENET post collecting hobbies that he
> has some kind of severe psychological problem.
> We can only encourage him to get the mental health counseling
> that he needs.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
10. Refuse to admit your errors. Never ever admit your
errors no matter how blatant they are. If you find no way out
and have to admit that you are wrong, phrase it so that you can
accuse your opponent of being wrong.
11. Never apologize for your misbehavior. Never ever
apologize no matter how out of line you have been behaving. If
you should ever find it to your advantage to apologize, phrase it
as a slap in the face of the person who you have already wronged.
[/quote]
Subject: Re: Roy Schestowitz
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:37:41 +0100
Message-ID: MPG.22710e9e3...@news.motzarella.org
[quote]
> He has software that takes RSS feeds, sorts them, searches for
> certain phrases, makes comments taken from a database and
> spits out the stuff to every corner of the Internet.
Unlike you - a troll with a chip on your shoulder who manually
creates so much shite aka anti-Roy spam that no-one, that's
right, NO-ONE wants to read, that you've single-handedly reduced
the appeal and effectiveness of a newsgroup.
Please, go create another group and move to it. If you really
have a voice someone wants to listen to, you'll get them moving
over to it.
You can get treatment for obsessive compulsive disorder you know!
[/quote]
> HPT is looking for "friends" online. That is why he glommed
> on to the COLA "advocates", with their insanity and that is
> why he is begging to be accepted by the "Cretin Crew"
> (Carroll, Wally, and Adams). He is willing to parrot their
> "arguments", no matter how insane, just to win their favor.
>
> At least Carroll thinks he has a grievance... he freaked out
> in 2004 over the loss of his girlfriend... but HPT does not
> even have that excuse (as poor and irrational as it is!)
Subject says it all [eyes roll].
--
HPT
Rather sad and ineffective reply. Troll's wooden high heels are
on too tight.
Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted someone accurately
somehow "proved" sock puppetry. You, of course, did not believe such
stupidity - but you pretended to and quoted it repeatedly to be accepted by
him and by his "crew".
Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since 2004. No sane
person would take Steve's list of quotes as anything other than a sign of
his mental illness. You, surely, are not *that* insane, I hope. But you
repeatedly quoted his list as you ran from your accusations - for no other
reason than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
You simply are not stupid enough to believe these insane trolling BS lines
you borrow and repeatedly spew. You do so to gain acceptance by the groups
you parrot. To further your goal of acceptance by the "crew" you pulled
debates from COLA into CSMA ... there was no reason to do that other than to
impress the "crew" with your trolling.
You then went too far: you started targeting my personal and professional
life. Any sane person would know that was inappropriate, even for rather
confrontational forums such as the advocacy forums. You did so to impress
the "crew" and the COLA "advocates" you so desperately want to impress.
Do not think anyone is being fooled? Maybe your "friends" are fooled or
will always pretend to be, after all, many are of much the same mindset -
they just lash out against others to find acceptance in their own groups -
*not* because they are truly insane enough to believe the BS lines they
spew.
But no sane person is fooled by your actions. No sane person is going to
see your actions as anything other than what they are - a sad, sad attempt
to gain acceptance by a very unhealthy group of people.
And, face it, there is do counter - no defense - you can find to show I am
wrong. You will surely deny and lash out and react with anger. But you
cannot show I am wrong because I am not wrong. You have done *exactly* as I
describe.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
So what you're saying is that *anyone* who ever contacts a poster's
employer is scum?
But does this value statement also include (or exclude) all those who
publically have _threatened_ to do so?
And what is appropriate for the situation where the individual being
threatened has previously been one who has been a "threatener"
himself? Would this still be off limits, or does it become a
Kharmatic justice ("Turnabout is fair play") sort of situation?
My apologies for splashing a hundred shades of grey between your
convenient black & white.
-hh
So then... you must believe that Michael Glasser (aka Snit) is the
most disgusting POS on usenet.
> Just like the rest of your freetard ilk.
>
> > No educator should behave as he.
>
> And since when does the worthless opinion of a nym-shifting liar like you
> matter one iota?
Snit has anyone beat hands down in the "nym-shifting liar" dept...
but it is rather interesting that you would take an opposing stance to
his comment. Gee, I wonder why you would do that...
Oh, come on, now. It would take more than that to make you Hadron
Quark...
<For Snit>
High Plains Thumper the nymshifting troll
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/fdebed2bfeeba959
George Hostler
312 Remuda St.
Clovis, New Mexico 88101-9338
Ph: 505-763-1077
"High Plains Thumper" <ghos...@plateautel.net>
Registrant:
Plateau Telecommunications
7111 N. Prince Street
Clovis, NM 88101
US
Domain Name: PLATEAUTEL.NET
Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Engineering, Network
networken...@plateautel.com
7111 North Prince Street
Clovis, NM 88101
US
Phone: (505) 389-5100
highplai...@linuxmail.org
ghos...@plateautel.net
highplai...@gmail.com
Google Earth: 34°25'39.32"N / 103°10'18.88"W
Pictures:
http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/rides/nart/nart04.jpg
http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/rides/nart/nart05.jpg
http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/rides/nart/nart06.jpg
http://www.bikes-n-spikes.org/rides/nart/nart07.jpg
High Plains Thumper AKA HPT AKA Rafael AKA George Hostler AKA Wendy
Toiletwater AKA Willy Wong AKA Wang Mycock AKA Anna Banger AKA Susan
McSquatter AKA "???" <Ê,º@h.com> AKA Doris Gets Her Oates AKA zyklon_C and
many, many, many others.
From: Rafael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Hadron Quarks nntp source
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:28:50 +0900
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID: <f50oij$j6e$1...@aioe.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: hS2UCkCBLjGVG7pltD04fg.user.aioe.org
From: High Plains Thumper
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft Interoffice Memorandum ..
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:33:55 +0900
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID: <f12vfi$u1e$1...@aioe.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: hS2UCkCBLjGVG7pltD04fg.user.aioe.org
From: George Hostler <h....TakeThisOut@singlecylinderbikes.com>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 2006 Suzuki Boulevard M50 Chain Or Belt Driven?! huh?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:52:12 +0900
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID: <emtj8n$2m4$1...@aioe.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: Z9VgaSCXozoXliMLlIwFZQ.user.aioe.org
From: High Plains Thumper <h....TakeThisOut@singlecylinderbikes.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.internet.search-engines,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OFFICIAL C.O.L.A FAQ
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:35:26 +0100 (CET)
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID: <Xns98B9DBA0B1E6...@194.177.96.26>
NNTP-Posting-Host: Z9VgaSCXozoXliMLlIwFZQ.user.aioe.org
Translation: Wally pointed to Snit using two *different* handles that
Snit mistakenly used to follow a conversation with. Notably, this is
not the first time Snit forgot to change one of his sock puppet
handles before posting.
> Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since 2004.
Translation: Snit scavenged posts by usenet posters (even from other
completely unrelated newsgroups) and Snit forged posting ID's of other
posters. Snit is now trying to project his behavior onto others.
> No sane person would take Steve's list of quotes as anything other than
> a sign of his mental illness.
Translation: The list of quotes put together by the csma moderator
that has been posted by several usenet posters is a list that Snit has
no defense for. It documents a reality that his "psych degree" doesn't
stand a chance of helping him with (unless the person(s) he is trying
to deceive is one of his "students". That Snit would attempt to
convince people that a list of quotes by posters who are calling Snit
mentally ill (among other things) is a "sign" of another poster's
mental illness says all one needs to know about Snit. This BS is just
more projection on Snit's part.
> You, surely, are not *that* insane, I hope. But you
> repeatedly quoted his list as you ran from your accusations - for no other
> reason than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
Translation: Snit is attempting to give the list of quotes an
ownership, thereby, in his tiny, little mind, undermining the validity
of the list. This is a feeble smokescreen that no one falls for. The
fact of the matter is that it is irrelevant that the list was put
together by a poster named 'csma moderator', the ownership of the list
belongs to the people who comprise the list.
> You simply are not stupid enough to believe these insane trolling BS lines
> you borrow and repeatedly spew. You do so to gain acceptance by the groups
> you parrot. To further your goal of acceptance by the "crew" you pulled
> debates from COLA into CSMA ... there was no reason to do that other than to
> impress the "crew" with your trolling.
Translation: Snit is putting his "psych degree" into high gear by
tying to convince a poster that he can't be stupid enough to engage in
the strawman that Snit has set up for him. Snit then talks about
impressing the "crew", an entity that doesn't actually exist. Snit
wishes the reader to believe that there is a "crew" that's out to get
him. That this "crew" encompasses anyone who has ever pointed out
Snit's lies and disingenuous behavior perfectly illuminates what Snit
is trying to do. Only a small child would fall for this type of
'psychology'. Snit really needs to get a refund on his "psych
degree"... people just aren't as stupid as he needs them to be.
> You then went too far: you started targeting my personal and professional
> life. Any sane person would know that was inappropriate, even for rather
> confrontational forums such as the advocacy forums. You did so to impress
> the "crew" and the COLA "advocates" you so desperately want to impress.
Translation: More attempts at 'psychology by Snit... this time he
calls a person insane for contacting his (alleged) employer. The fact
of the matter is that Snit has engaged in extremely bizarre, dishonest
and disingenuous behavior on usenet... for instance, he has engaged in
identity theft on usenet (and has admitted to having done so after he
was caught red handed) and may be engaging in the identity theft of a
college instructor. To contact the Dean of this college to inquire if
Snit is legitimate is something any sane individual should feel free
to do. Snit has a pressing interest in this contact not taking place,
hence the use of his "psych degree" here.
> Do not think anyone is being fooled? Maybe your "friends" are fooled or
> will always pretend to be, after all, many are of much the same mindset -
> they just lash out against others to find acceptance in their own groups -
> *not* because they are truly insane enough to believe the BS lines they
> spew.
>
> But no sane person is fooled by your actions. No sane person is going to
> see your actions as anything other than what they are - a sad, sad attempt
> to gain acceptance by a very unhealthy group of people.
Translation: All the people who have busted Snit on his lies and
assorted trolling are, as Snit would have you believe, "a very
unhealthy group of people. This exemplifies Snit's entire MO
perfectly.
> And, face it, there is do counter - no defense - you can find to show I am
> wrong. You will surely deny and lash out and react with anger. But you
> cannot show I am wrong because I am not wrong. You have done *exactly* as I
> describe.
Translation: "deny and lash out and react with anger" are, in the real
world, to be equated with pointing out Snit's lies and BS.
Thank you.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Epecially since Snot Michael Glasser deserves everything coming at him in
spades, no matter what
--
"The Microsoft Game" rules are very simple:
1. If you play Microsoft's game, Microsoft wins.
2. If you refuse to play Microsoft's game, Microsoft wins.
3. Anytime you win, Microsoft gets to change the rules.
Another Gary lie, attibuting Flatfish nyms to another. This is
an example of:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
[6.] When your tactics are turned on you, call your opponents
trolls. Do not accept the fact that by calling someone using
your tactics a troll that makes you the real troll.
[/quote]
<For Snit>
33- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your
BS or actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you
keep asking for and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel."
30 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a
Snit: "Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question
I just asked. You will run... your whole goal is to beg for
attention, not to make or support a point."
Hadron: "nice. You made it into my new killfile. Jesus, stop
repeating the same garbage." 6 Apr 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728
36- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example
of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone who
disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a purposeful
attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only warning to
consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder that you, and
you alone are responsible for that accusation, both in the
ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
37- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick
and tired of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly
statements shifting the goal posts, your continuous rambling
drivel of how everyone seems to be against you. No one cares a
wooden nickel about your incessant flame wars that are self
created. You pretend to be an advocate but you manage to cause
everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f
He calls these actual quotes lies?
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I
wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the amazing
silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him."
27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member of
CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being better than
then, rise above the low level you so obviously dislike.
Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone
else who has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement,
showed it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick
and REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just
respond to a current message." 22 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the
worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger,
and you've almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you
to post a list of out of context arguments, and lies, and
forgeries about your enemies labled as a "peace effort" has to be
one of the craziest stunts you've pulled. It's all about your
sick need for attention, your need to be center stage at all
times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought it would make
people look at you." 18 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
27- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who
uncover his lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are
"proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d
28- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f
38- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting the same following message over and over, in false
pretense as a Linux advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least.
I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious
when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill,
and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his
wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of
his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling
and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be
helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
39- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to
offer support for your statements, you're reduced to personal
attacks on me. Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see
that I have offered no straw men, and have only asked you to
explain how the things you state as facts can be true. I'm really
sorry that you're taking this attitude, the topic is an
interesting one and I thought you might have some insights. I've
snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was
just repeated." 6 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6
40- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people
on usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and
refresh your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over
and over. Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess."
1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0
48- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
55- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your
sentence with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.'
29 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8
57- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad
hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject
of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always
have been." 14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
61-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors
CBS News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit
is cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit he's
wrong." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf
62- libsnightmare: "Excellent checkmate and end game for Snit.
He will always be running scared and welcoming to any stranger
willing to listen to his lies." 12 Mar 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/6d137223b0f392e7
63- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."
"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by
that effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574
66- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life." 30
Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b
91- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like
you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to
perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond
in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for
Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what
convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
93- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You
trash people that are trying their level best to cope with a
horrendous situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of
what is going on." 06 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b
96- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's
thing is twisting your words so he can win an argument against a
straw man. That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42
97- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux
and how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you
requesting help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an
advocacy group? As the old saying goes, those who can do, those
who can't teach. Your posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO."
12 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08
98- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless.
You must be related to our resident racist troll, he lies as much
as you." 29 Dec 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d
100- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice.
Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront
made more sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?"
25 May 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370
102- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts
trash just to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1
111- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my
killbin, I can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322
113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a
liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
125- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of
posts, to prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like
that to people without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in
the record. Ping Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and
give meaning to his tawdry little life." 25 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538
--
HPT
> Steve Carroll wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
>>> someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry.
>>
>> Translation: Wally pointed to Snit using two *different*
>> handles that Snit mistakenly used to follow a conversation
>> with. Notably, this is not the first time Snit forgot to
>> change one of his sock puppet handles before posting.
>>
>>> Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since
>>> 2004.
>>
>> Translation: Snit scavenged posts by usenet posters (even from
>> other completely unrelated newsgroups) and Snit forged posting
>> ID's of other posters. Snit is now trying to project his
>> behavior onto others.
>
> He calls these actual quotes lies?
I note, correctly, that Steve Carroll is insane. Ever since 2004, when he
blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, he has been scavenging and forging
quotes. Please note: I *never* said *all* the quotes were lies, but many
are (from Steve's own sock puppets, for example, or snipped dishonestly, as
people have called Steve on).
On the other hand, I decided for *one* month to keep track of quotes about
Carroll. It was astonishing. Here is what I found:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d520575acab1e32b>
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a03f13c307742b68>
Now each of those is just from *one* month. One. Steve has been dredging
up quotes since 2004, and *forging* many of them (look at all the ones from
his known socks).
Still: people say a lot of things. To show Steve's behavior one must point
to *Steve*. What you or I or anyone else says *about* the lying scumbag
does is not evidence... *his* actions are the evidence. That is why when I
do talk about Steve's repulsive behavior, or yours for that matter, I do so
based on what *you* post - not what others do.
Neither of you can do that in regards to me. I am clearly not perfect, but
I am not a trolling, lying troll who lacks any reasonable morals - you and
Carroll are.
You have no defense for your actions: but I have described you perfectly:
Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry. You, of
course, did not believe such stupidity - but you pretended to
and quoted it repeatedly to be accepted by him and by his
"crew".
Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since
2004. No sane person would take Steve's list of quotes as
anything other than a sign of his mental illness. You,
surely, are not *that* insane, I hope. But you repeatedly
quoted his list as you ran from your accusations - for no
other reason than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
You simply are not stupid enough to believe these insane
trolling BS lines you borrow and repeatedly spew. You do so
to gain acceptance by the groups you parrot. To further your
goal of acceptance by the "crew" you pulled debates from COLA
into CSMA ... there was no reason to do that other than to
impress the "crew" with your trolling.
You then went too far: you started targeting my personal and
professional life. Any sane person would know that was
inappropriate, even for rather confrontational forums such as
the advocacy forums. You did so to impress the "crew" and
the COLA "advocates" you so desperately want to impress.
Do not think anyone is being fooled? Maybe your "friends"
are fooled or will always pretend to be, after all, many are
of much the same mindset - they just lash out against others
to find acceptance in their own groups - *not* because they
are truly insane enough to believe the BS lines they spew.
But no sane person is fooled by your actions. No sane person
is going to see your actions as anything other than what they
are - a sad, sad attempt to gain acceptance by a very
unhealthy group of people.
And, face it, there is do counter - no defense - you can find
to show I am wrong. You will surely deny and lash out and
react with anger. But you cannot show I am wrong because I
am not wrong. You have done *exactly* as I describe.
And all you could do is run. You *know* I am correct. Period.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> High Plains Thumper stated in post grkpo2$8q7$1...@news.motzarella.org on
> 4/9/09 5:29 AM:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> HPT is looking for "friends" online. That is why he glommed
>>> on to the COLA "advocates", with their insanity and that is
>>> why he is begging to be accepted by the "Cretin Crew"
>>> (Carroll, Wally, and Adams). He is willing to parrot their
>>> "arguments", no matter how insane, just to win their favor.
>>>
>>> At least Carroll thinks he has a grievance... he freaked out
>>> in 2004 over the loss of his girlfriend... but HPT does not
>>> even have that excuse (as poor and irrational as it is!)
>>
>> Subject says it all [eyes roll].
>
> Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
>
> Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted someone accurately
Don't be so ridiculous Snit! I would *never* make up a story that you
"quoted someone accurately" that particular 'story' would have absolutely no
chance of being believed!
Try again!
> I note, correctly, that Steve Carroll is insane. Ever since
> 2004, when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, he has
> been scavenging and forging quotes. Please note: I *never*
> said *all* the quotes were lies, but many are (from Steve's
> own sock puppets, for example, or snipped dishonestly, as
> people have called Steve on).
5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member of
CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being better than
then, rise above the low level you so obviously dislike.
Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just
respond to a current message." 22 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a
> On the other hand, I decided for *one* month to keep track of
> quotes about Carroll. It was astonishing. Here is what I
> found:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d520575acab1e32b>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a03f13c307742b68>
125- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of
posts, to prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like
that to people without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in
the record. Ping Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and
give meaning to his tawdry little life." 25 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538
> Now each of those is just from *one* month. One. Steve has
> been dredging up quotes since 2004, and *forging* many of them
> (look at all the ones from his known socks).
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
> Still: people say a lot of things. To show Steve's behavior
> one must point to *Steve*. What you or I or anyone else says
> *about* the lying scumbag does is not evidence... *his*
> actions are the evidence. That is why when I do talk about
> Steve's repulsive behavior, or yours for that matter, I do so
> based on what *you* post - not what others do.
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I
wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the amazing
silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him."
27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
> Neither of you can do that in regards to me. I am clearly not
> perfect, but I am not a trolling, lying troll who lacks any
> reasonable morals - you and Carroll are.
23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the
worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger,
and you've almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you
to post a list of out of context arguments, and lies, and
forgeries about your enemies labled as a "peace effort" has to be
one of the craziest stunts you've pulled. It's all about your
sick need for attention, your need to be center stage at all
times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought it would make
people look at you." 18 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
> You have no defense for your actions: but I have described you
> perfectly:
>
> Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
57- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad
hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject
of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always
have been." 14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
> Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
> someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry. You, of
> course, did not believe such stupidity - but you pretended to
> and quoted it repeatedly to be accepted by him and by his
> "crew".
38- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting the same following message over and over, in false
pretense as a Linux advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least.
I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious
when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill,
and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his
wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of
his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling
and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be
helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
> Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since
> 2004. No sane person would take Steve's list of quotes as
> anything other than a sign of his mental illness. You,
> surely, are not *that* insane, I hope. But you repeatedly
> quoted his list as you ran from your accusations - for no
> other reason than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
40- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people
on usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and
refresh your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over
and over. Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess."
1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0
> You simply are not stupid enough to believe these insane
> trolling BS lines you borrow and repeatedly spew. You do so
> to gain acceptance by the groups you parrot. To further your
> goal of acceptance by the "crew" you pulled debates from COLA
> into CSMA ... there was no reason to do that other than to
> impress the "crew" with your trolling.
91- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like
you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to
perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond
in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for
Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what
convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
> You then went too far: you started targeting my personal and
> professional life. Any sane person would know that was
> inappropriate, even for rather confrontational forums such as
> the advocacy forums. You did so to impress the "crew" and the
> COLA "advocates" you so desperately want to impress.
7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone
else who has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement,
showed it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick
and REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
> Do not think anyone is being fooled? Maybe your "friends" are
> fooled or will always pretend to be, after all, many are of
> much the same mindset - they just lash out against others to
> find acceptance in their own groups - *not* because they are
> truly insane enough to believe the BS lines they spew.
113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a
liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
> But no sane person is fooled by your actions. No sane person
> is going to see your actions as anything other than what they
> are - a sad, sad attempt to gain acceptance by a very
> unhealthy group of people.
36- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example
of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone who
disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a purposeful
attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only warning to
consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder that you, and
you alone are responsible for that accusation, both in the
ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
> And, face it, there is do counter - no defense - you can find
> to show I am wrong. You will surely deny and lash out and
> react with anger. But you cannot show I am wrong because I am
> not wrong. You have done *exactly* as I describe.
37- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick
and tired of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly
statements shifting the goal posts, your continuous rambling
drivel of how everyone seems to be against you. No one cares a
wooden nickel about your incessant flame wars that are self
created. You pretend to be an advocate but you manage to cause
everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f
> And all you could do is run. You *know* I am correct.
> Period.
33- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your
BS or actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you
keep asking for and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel."
30 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a
Snit: "Sigh: 100% predictable, you will not answer *any* question
I just asked. You will run... your whole goal is to beg for
attention, not to make or support a point."
Hadron: "nice. You made it into my new killfile. Jesus, stop
repeating the same garbage." 6 Apr 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c86ab53a759ea728
--
HPT
Since my opinion is being taken as gospel, shall I link to quotes I've
made about you?
LEARN TO READ.
Really, Wally.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
> Steve Carroll wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
>>> someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry.
>>
>> Translation: Wally pointed to Snit using two *different*
>> handles that Snit mistakenly used to follow a conversation
>> with. Notably, this is not the first time Snit forgot to
>> change one of his sock puppet handles before posting.
>>
>>> Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since
>>> 2004.
>>
>> Translation: Snit scavenged posts by usenet posters (even from
>> other completely unrelated newsgroups) and Snit forged posting
>> ID's of other posters. Snit is now trying to project his
>> behavior onto others.
>
> He calls these actual quotes lies?
I note, correctly, that Steve Carroll is insane. Ever since 2004, when he
blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, he has been scavenging and forging
quotes. Please note: I *never* said *all* the quotes were lies, but many
are (from Steve's own sock puppets, for example, or snipped dishonestly, as
people have called Steve on).
On the other hand, I decided for *one* month to keep track of quotes about
Carroll. It was astonishing. Here is what I found:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d520575acab1e32b>
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a03f13c307742b68>
Now each of those is just from *one* month. One. Steve has been dredging
up quotes since 2004, and *forging* many of them (look at all the ones from
his known socks).
Still: people say a lot of things. To show Steve's behavior one must point
to *Steve*. What you or I or anyone else says *about* the lying scumbag
does is not evidence... *his* actions are the evidence. That is why when I
do talk about Steve's repulsive behavior, or yours for that matter, I do so
based on what *you* post - not what others do.
Neither of you can do that in regards to me. I am clearly not perfect, but
I am not a trolling, lying troll who lacks any reasonable morals - you and
Carroll are.
You have no defense for your actions: but I have described you perfectly:
Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry. You, of
course, did not believe such stupidity - but you pretended to
and quoted it repeatedly to be accepted by him and by his
"crew".
Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging quotes since
2004. No sane person would take Steve's list of quotes as
anything other than a sign of his mental illness. You,
surely, are not *that* insane, I hope. But you repeatedly
quoted his list as you ran from your accusations - for no
other reason than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
You simply are not stupid enough to believe these insane
trolling BS lines you borrow and repeatedly spew. You do so
to gain acceptance by the groups you parrot. To further your
goal of acceptance by the "crew" you pulled debates from COLA
into CSMA ... there was no reason to do that other than to
impress the "crew" with your trolling.
You then went too far: you started targeting my personal and
professional life. Any sane person would know that was
inappropriate, even for rather confrontational forums such as
the advocacy forums. You did so to impress the "crew" and
the COLA "advocates" you so desperately want to impress.
Do not think anyone is being fooled? Maybe your "friends"
are fooled or will always pretend to be, after all, many are
of much the same mindset - they just lash out against others
to find acceptance in their own groups - *not* because they
are truly insane enough to believe the BS lines they spew.
But no sane person is fooled by your actions. No sane person
is going to see your actions as anything other than what they
are - a sad, sad attempt to gain acceptance by a very
unhealthy group of people.
And, face it, there is do counter - no defense - you can find
to show I am wrong. You will surely deny and lash out and
react with anger. But you cannot show I am wrong because I
am not wrong. You have done *exactly* as I describe.
And all you could do is run. You *know* I am correct. Period.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
HPT is using the quotes Steve Carroll has been scavanging and forging since
2004. *Years* of quotes... many of them from Steve's own socks. I decided
for *one* month to keep track of quotes about Carroll. It was astonishing.
Here is what I found:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d520575acab1e32b>
So I tried for one more month:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a03f13c307742b68>
Amazing. Steve has been dredging up quotes since 2004, and *forging* many of
them (as I said, many are from his known socks).
Still: people say a lot of things. To show Steve's behavior one must point
to *Steve*. What you or I or anyone else says *about* the lying scumbag
does is not evidence... *his* actions are the evidence. That is why when I
do talk about Steve's repulsive behavior, or HPT's for that matter, I do so
based on what *they* post - not what others do.
Neither of them can do that in regards to me. I am clearly not perfect, but
I am not a lying troll who lacks any reasonable morals - HPT and Carroll
are.
HPT has *no* defense for his actions. He gloms on to others trolling BS and
repeats it over and over for *no* other reason than to try to gain the favor
of the lowest lowlife he can find. Two examples:
Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
someone accurately somehow "proved" sock puppetry. HPT, of
course, did not believe such stupidity - but he pretended to
and quoted it repeatedly to be accepted by Wally and by his
"crew".
As noted above, Steve Carroll has been scavenging and forging
quotes since 2004. No sane person would take Steve's list of
quotes as anything other than a sign of Steve Carroll's own
mental illness. HPT, surely, is not *that* insane, I hope.
But he repeatedly quoted Steve's list - for no other reason
than to try to gain the favor of the "crew".
HPT then went too far: he started targeting my personal and professional
life. Any sane person would know that was inappropriate, even for rather
confrontational forums such as the advocacy forums. He did so to impress
the "crew" and the COLA "advocates" he so desperately wants to impress.
Now he wants to pretend his actions have been anything other than
reprehensible. The only people who will accept this, though, are people who
are clearly unconcerned with morality. So he has pushed himself even
further to feeling the need to seek out the approval of Carroll, Wally, and
the like.
Instead he should just let it go. I shall not harp on his bad behavior if
he just *stops* his repulsive behavior. He does not even have to do the
right thing and offer an apology or even an acknowledgement that he has been
acting so reprehensibly. Just stop.
I sincerely hope he is able to... but I suspect he is not mentally strong
enough to change gears like that. I hope he proves me wrong.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
So... what you're saying is that you'll be providing proof for your
claim that I ever even had an online "girlfriend" for which I could
blame you regarding her "leaving" me? And while you're at it... you'll
also be providing proof for the quotes you wish people to believe that
I 'forged'?
Poor Snit... ties himself into knots every chance he gets. LOL!
> What you or I or anyone else says *about* the lying scumbag
> does is not evidence
Are you high again, Snit?
... *his* actions are the evidence.
That's true, my pointing out (and supporting, with evidence that you
continually run from) your lies is evidence that you are lying.
> That is why when I
> do talk about Steve's repulsive behavior, or yours for that matter, I do so
> based on what *you* post - not what others do.
Oh, you must mean when you do things like lying about your GoDaddy
registration info (and then called it off topic when people pointed it
out to you as they proved your lie beyond all reasonable doubt). Or
like the times you were caught forging documents (and you tried to
blame others). Or forging posting IDs (and you blamed others while
simultaneously admitting that you did it) .Or lying about people
talking about their porn habits. Or making up lies about the Windows
OS... and all the other many things you have lied about over the
years.
> Neither of you can do that in regards to me.
Without you denying it? No, we can't. The fact is... a great many
people on the csma moderator's quotes list have done it in regards to
you... hence their writing what they have about you. It's not an
accident that well upwards of 100 posters consider you to be one of
the worst liars/trolls they've ever seen.
(snip more of Snit's delusional drivel)
Translation: Snit must pretend that the people who wrote the quotes
about him are not important... he wishes the reader to focus on the
person(s) who publicly point out the material... as if that somehow
lessens the negative statements written about him.
> *Years* of quotes... many of them from Steve's own socks.
Translation: Snit, one of the the most well known sock puppet users
csma has ever seen, is projecting his behavior onto another poster so
as to discredit the list of quotes made by a solid cross section of
posters (the list is now well over 100 people, the vast majority of
them long time readers... this, as opposed to the laughable attempt
Snit tries AGAIN below (Snit has tried this tactic several times over
the years... no one has ever fallen for it).
> I decided
> for *one* month to keep track of quotes about Carroll. It was astonishing.
> Here is what I found:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d520575acab1...>
>
> So I tried for one more month:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a03f13c30774...>
Translation: Snit was *so* pissed off that a list of quotes had been
collected regarding him that he organized his sock puppet army to
target a poster whom he mistakenly believed collected the quotes on
the list. That Snit's collection of 'quotes' (and I use the term very
loosely) is made up largely of material by the same relatively
(relative to long time posters) few sock puppets/shills should not be
lost on the reader... as evidenced by Snit's refusal to include
attributions and links. Obviously, Snit really believes that people
are as stupid as he needs them to be.
> Amazing. Steve has been dredging up quotes since 2004, and *forging* many of
> them (as I said, many are from his known socks).
>
> Still: people say a lot of things.
Translation: The difference, of course, is that a large number of
different people have said things about Snit. This is an obvious
attempt by Snit to use his "psych degree" to discredit the negative
comments made against him by a very large group of people. Were the
playing field leveled and the list of quotes to be limited to one
quote per person, with nothing being written by trolls, sock puppets,
shills... etc., Snit's 'quote list' would be exposed for the sham
that it is and Snit knows it... which is why the quotes have
absolutely *no* supporting evidence... notably, a thing Snit falsely
claims to always provide (thus, making this particular claim one of
his biggest and ongoing lies).
(snip the remainder of Snit's delusional drivel)
> cc stated in post
> ac244064-6c51-4d52...@r37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com on 4/10/09
> 6:15 AM:
>
> > On Apr 10, 4:05 am, High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
> >> months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just
> >> respond to a current message." 22 Jan 2009
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312b...
> >>
> >
> > Since my opinion is being taken as gospel, shall I link to quotes I've
> > made about you?
>
> HPT is using the quotes Steve Carroll has been scavanging
for a person that claims never to lie, michael glasser continues to post the
same LIE he's failed to support every time he's been asked to. come on mr
michael pervert glasser - support you claim for once, or stop postin glies.
~babbling based on michael child molesting glasser snipped
--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
I second that... but, realistically, so long as the posts have been
shown to have been written by long time readers of csma (and a few
from cola) it matters not how the collection of quotes came to light
(which is why Snit tends to focus on it in a feeble attempt to
discredit it). His other feeble tactic is to pretend that the person
whom he accuses of collecting the quotes (me) has an even worse record
in this regard. As I'm sure you've seen, he ludicrously parades his
quotes list that contains quotes that he *alleges* were written about
me. Of course, as to be expected from Snit, there are no attributions
or evidence of any kind so the reader is left to go google hunting. If
a person was to bother in that endeavor he'd quickly find that, unlike
the csma moderator's quotes list, there are multiple posts from highly
questionable sources... which explains Snit not providing
attributions.
Yes they do. Like these 127 quoters regarding the Snit Circus of
Pathological Lies:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf
> So... what you're saying is that you'll be providing proof for your
> claim that I ever even had an online "girlfriend" for which I could
> blame you regarding her "leaving" me? And while you're at it... you'll
> also be providing proof for the quotes you wish people to believe that I
> 'forged'?
LOLROTF! I laughed so hard I had tea coming out my nose! The only
friends Snit have are imaginary!
> Poor Snit... ties himself into knots every chance he gets. LOL!
>
>> What you or I or anyone else says *about* the lying scumbag does is
>> not evidence
>
> Are you high again, Snit?
>
> ... *his* actions are the evidence.
>
> That's true, my pointing out (and supporting, with evidence that you
> continually run from) your lies is evidence that you are lying.
>
>> That is why when I do talk about Steve's repulsive behavior, or yours
>> for that matter, I do so based on what *you* post - not what others do.
>
> Oh, you must mean when you do things like lying about your GoDaddy
> registration info (and then called it off topic when people pointed it
> out to you as they proved your lie beyond all reasonable doubt). Or like
> the times you were caught forging documents (and you tried to blame
> others). Or forging posting IDs (and you blamed others while
> simultaneously admitting that you did it) .Or lying about people talking
> about their porn habits. Or making up lies about the Windows OS... and
> all the other many things you have lied about over the years.
Or forging Linux evidence on supposed GUI problems, placed as troll bait
in COLA. When advocates comment, then the Snit Circus starts up.
>> Neither of you can do that in regards to me.
>
> Without you denying it? No, we can't. The fact is... a great many people
> on the csma moderator's quotes list have done it in regards to you...
> hence their writing what they have about you. It's not an accident that
> well upwards of 100 posters consider you to be one of the worst
> liars/trolls they've ever seen.
>
> (snip more of Snit's delusional drivel)
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/snit-troll.html
[quote]
Name: snit
Traits:
* MAC troll
* Cross posts to maximize newsgroup disruption
* Despised by many on COLA and CSMA (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
* Proves the saying 'those that can do, those that can't teach'
* Idiot
[/quote]
--
HPT
> Steve Carroll wrote:
>> Snit lied (as usual) the following:
>>
>>> I note, correctly, that Steve Carroll is insane. Ever since 2004,
>>> when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, he has been
>>> scavenging and forging quotes. Please note: [rest of Snit screech and
>>> whines snipped]
>>>
>>> Still: people say a lot of things.
>
> Yes they do.
But what matters is what an individual does and says... not what quotes
someone can dredge up about them or even fabricate, as Carroll did and you
repeatedly quote, as if you had a point.
But you do not... hence the reason you resort to focusing on Carroll's BS.
That and you deeply want to find acceptance. Sadly the only way you know
how is to seek out the lowest of the low and pal around with them, quoting
their BS, as you do with Carroll and Wally's illogical "proof" of sock
puppetry. You are not stupid enough to believe their BS, but you will do
*anything* to gain their favor.
And, sadly, you think it is not obvious.
...
>> Oh, you must mean when you do things like lying about your GoDaddy
>> registration info (and then called it off topic when people pointed it
>> out to you as they proved your lie beyond all reasonable doubt). Or like
>> the times you were caught forging documents (and you tried to blame
>> others). Or forging posting IDs (and you blamed others while
>> simultaneously admitting that you did it) .Or lying about people talking
>> about their porn habits. Or making up lies about the Windows OS... and
>> all the other many things you have lied about over the years.
>
> Or forging Linux evidence on supposed GUI problems, placed as troll bait
> in COLA. When advocates comment, then the Snit Circus starts up.
Ah, yes: a whole range of accusations about me that cannot be proved
because, clearly, they are not true. And, yes, trolls *hate* when I prove
my points so they spew the accusations you and Carroll just spewed... then
blame *me* by calling it *my* circus.
Face it: if you could have proved I forged documents, for example, you would
have. Carroll is in reference to a couple of PDFs I used to prove Sandman
was lying - and after Carroll and others accused me of forging the data I
was able to provide links to *every* data point I referenced. Everyone.
Then the claim moved to somehow the data was fine (hence it was accepted
that Sandman was a liar, but Steve would never say that) and the way the PDF
was *made* because the topic. It was bizarrely claimed that a WebKit
enabled tool I used to automate the collection and collating of web info
somehow lead to the PDF being a *forgery*. When that fell flat I let on
that when a page was not available I even spliced in the data later to
ensure accuracy (keep in mind *all* the data was available online).
Assuring accuracy, though, to Steve Carroll implies "forgery".
Ah the twisted "logic" of Carroll... the very "logic" you will pretend to
accept so that you can cuddle with Carroll. You can pretend you are stupid
enough to buy his BS... but I simply do not accept that you are *that*
stupid.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Troll defends troll.
>>> HPT is using the quotes Steve Carroll has been scavanging
Scavenged? Problem Snit has is they are all true and revealing
of what a sad little man he is.
>> for a person that claims never to lie, michael glasser
>> continues to post the same LIE he's failed to support every
>> time he's been asked to. come on mr michael pervert glasser
>> - support you claim for once, or stop postin glies.
>
> I second that... but, realistically, so long as the posts have
> been shown to have been written by long time readers of csma
> (and a few from cola) it matters not how the collection of
> quotes came to light (which is why Snit tends to focus on it
> in a feeble attempt to discredit it).
His only defence is to snip away the offending portion, then
repeat his non-stop drivel.
> His other feeble tactic is to pretend that the person whom he
> accuses of collecting the quotes (me) has an even worse record
> in this regard. As I'm sure you've seen, he ludicrously
> parades his quotes list that contains quotes that he *alleges*
> were written about me. Of course, as to be expected from Snit,
> there are no attributions or evidence of any kind so the
> reader is left to go google hunting.
That is commonly known as "troll-speak".
> If a person was to bother in that endeavor he'd quickly find
> that, unlike the csma moderator's quotes list, there are
> multiple posts from highly questionable sources... which
> explains Snit not providing attributions.
It just goes to show that he provides only one purpose, that of
intential troll-ment.
>> ~babbling based on michael child molesting glasser snipped
Regarding childish behaviour, I like this quote:
66- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life." 30
Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b
>> -- regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the
>> truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and
>> keep disrupting the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
91- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like
you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to
perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond
in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for
Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what
convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
--
> Troll defends troll.
>
>>>> HPT is using the quotes Steve Carroll has been scavanging
Yes: HPT uses the quotes Steve Carroll scavenged and forged... troll defends
troll.
> Scavenged? Problem Snit has is they are all true and revealing
> of what a sad little man he is.
If they were true you would quote *me* doing as you claim I do: not Steve
Carroll scavenged and forged quotes... a list he has been obsessively
creating since 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend dumping him.
But you cannot. Nor can Steve. The *best* Steve can do is quote a comment
of mine about the MacBook Air - a comment he has quoted *thousands* of
times.
Yes: thousands.
He is grossly obsessive. And dishonest. And you seek to please him and to
be a part of his "crew", so you have taken to using his scavenged and forged
quotes... and, as you said: Troll defends troll. You two are now defending
each other... cuddling.
...
>> His other feeble tactic is to pretend that the person whom he
>> accuses of collecting the quotes (me) has an even worse record
>> in this regard. As I'm sure you've seen, he ludicrously
>> parades his quotes list that contains quotes that he *alleges*
>> were written about me. Of course, as to be expected from Snit,
>> there are no attributions or evidence of any kind so the
>> reader is left to go google hunting.
>
> That is commonly known as "troll-speak".
I can accept that term for Carroll's words: "troll-speak". He openly lies
about me to try to turn the attention away from his obsession and his
lies... to try to get me on the defensive. Yes: "troll-speak". That is
what Steve does. And you.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Sure... like when you forged my posting ID and then 'said' you did so
(but only after being caught red handed, of course). True to form,
when you made your admission of that particular forging you lied and
told Sandman (the person you first admitted it to) that you were doing
it on a dare. What about all the other posts you forged? Why didn't
you lie and say those were done on a dare, too?
It's notable that in a text medium like this one you are strongly
pushing the idea that what matters is what an individual "says", yet,
you disregard what over 100 individuals 'say' about you (that you are
a liar, troll or worse). Your position here is as inconsistent as
anyone suffering from the mental illness you obviously suffer from.
> not what quotes someone can dredge
Uh... Mr. Idiotic Dumbshit? Quotes are what people 'say'. Your story
here is falling apart... unless you are still trying to sell the idea
that an entire newsgroup full of people are all lying about you. Yes,
that is an idea that only you would push... which is why we find you
doing it.
> >> Oh, you must mean when you do things like lying about your GoDaddy
> >> registration info (and then called it off topic when people pointed it
> >> out to you as they proved your lie beyond all reasonable doubt). Or like
> >> the times you were caught forging documents (and you tried to blame
> >> others). Or forging posting IDs (and you blamed others while
> >> simultaneously admitting that you did it) .Or lying about people talking
> >> about their porn habits. Or making up lies about the Windows OS... and
> >> all the other many things you have lied about over the years.
>
> > Or forging Linux evidence on supposed GUI problems, placed as troll bait
> > in COLA. When advocates comment, then the Snit Circus starts up.
>
> Ah, yes: a whole range of accusations about me that cannot be proved
> because, clearly, they are not true.
Translation: Snit will deny everything that has been proven true to
any sane and reasonable reader.
(snip remainder of feeble attempts by Snit to use his "psych degree")
We do it all the time... here is one just finished cuz the topic came
up elsewhere:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9bb089a09f01889a?hl=en&dmode=source
(snip crap)
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ee577ba4ff41257
Snit: "Like a poor marksman you keep quoting *other* people but
not me...
HPT: "In a court of law, there would be no need to have you
testify. The evidence is there all in its glory, archived by
Google Groups and other Usenet archives. Rather, it is YOU that
missed the mark."
Snit: "not in any way that supports your claims."
HPT: "See above, see these 123 testimonies, all in their glory
along with all your posts in response to and in their reaction to!"
[Snip rest of Snit's lies]
127 Quoters best theme:
26- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among
people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I
feel that it is like being in a room of really young children
trying there best to best the other person. The one common thing
among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like this, but
facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a great
percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more
about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all
this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has
always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank
it up to the point that this place is no longer fun.
Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making this place your own
personal circus." 12 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6
No wins, Snit is a luser.
>>>>> At least Carroll thinks he has a grievance... he
>>>>> freaked out in 2004 over the loss of his girlfriend...
>>>>> but HPT does not even have that excuse (as poor and
>>>>> irrational as it is!)
>>>
>>>> Subject says it all [eyes roll].
>>>
>>> Come on, HPT, you have no defense of your actions.
>>>
>>> Wally made up a stupid story about how my noting I quoted
>>> someone accurately
>>
>> Don't be so ridiculous Snit! I would *never* make up a story
>> that you "quoted someone accurately" that particular 'story'
>> would have absolutely no chance of being believed! Try
>> again!
>
> LEARN TO READ. Really, Wally.
Yes, here is something for Snit to read:
52- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be
shocked that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about
being a computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and
best ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by medication. He's
here to do one thing, get attention from people. He says the
crazy stuff just to get a reaction. You say you like to beat him
over the head. Well that's what he's counting on, he says stuff
he knows isn't true in hopes to get a rise out of people like
you. Ignore him, you won't regret it." 3 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314
--
HPT
I'm not defending. I'm not recanting what I said. I'm just saying I've
said much worse about you. So what does that say about you?
You're a hideous troll is sheep's clothing.
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/cc-troll_29.html
[quote]
Name: cc scat...@hotmail.com
Traits:
* Microsoft apologist
* Pretends to be OS neutral - fails miserably
[/quote]
--
HPT
Then why are you using my words to support your side, you fucking
hypocrite?
> cc wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> cc stated:
>>>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't
>>>>>>>> have to dig up months old articles where he
>>>>>>>> brings up years old topics. Just respond to a
>>>>>>>> current message." 22 Jan 2009
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312b..>>>>>>>>
.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since my opinion is being taken as gospel, shall I
>>>>>>> link to quotes I've made about you?
>>>
>>> Troll defends troll.
>>
>> I'm not defending. I'm not recanting what I said. I'm just
>> saying I've said much worse about you. So what does that say
>> about you?
>
> You're a hideous troll is sheep's clothing.
Yet you use his words to "show" something about me... but deny his words say
something about you.
See the hypocrisy.
Your game is to spew accusation after accusation in an effort to put me on
the defensive: then you do not have to defend your lies, such as when you
called my unimpeachable evidence "forged". Your *best* efforts to defend
your lie was to point to you making dishonest accusations. Lovely... your
"support" of your lie is to note you have made similar lies in the past.
Face it: you have no evidence for your accusations; you have no support for
your anti-choice stance in terms of desktop Linux users.
You simply are begging to be accepted by the lowest of the low in Usenet.
How pathetic.
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He is doing so because Steve Carroll has done so and HPT wants, desperately,
to be accepted by the "crew" that Steve Carroll is in. HPT uses Carroll's
list of quotes that have been scavenged and forged since, I kid you not,
2004 and also uses Wally's "evidence" that if someone notes they posted an
accurate quote this somehow proves they use socks. Wally is a part of the
same "crew". I suspect HPT will borrow one of Tim Adams' trolling lines
soon... he is the third member of that "crew".
HPT does not believe his BS, he just wants to be accepted by the lowest of
the low of Usenet. It is pathetic.
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I have discretion, something Snit doesn't understand.
> See the hypocrisy.
In Snit's reply.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bb109592ad5a35e4
Snit: "I have been giving he and HPT too much attention recently..."
Yet Snit is right back at it.
> Your game is to spew accusation after accusation in an effort
> to put me on the defensive: then you do not have to defend
> your lies, such as when you called my unimpeachable evidence
> "forged".
48- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
> Your *best* efforts to defend your lie was to point to you
> making dishonest accusations.
65- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser
is the same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest
now, it would be impossible to determine where the honesty starts
and the usual dishonesty ends. In my primary school, one of the
teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I recall her going over
the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over
now, and I would not come to help him with his sheep, because I
do not know any way of determining if he's ever telling the
truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3
> Lovely... your "support" of your lie is to note you have made
> similar lies in the past.
26- fibercut: "[...] The one common thing among all of this seems
to be you. I hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You seem
to be in the middle of a great percentage of arguments. CSMA has
become less about Macs and more about "look everybody, I think he
lied". Is there no end then all this picking at each other on
such a personal level. CSMA has always been al little adversarial
but you have personally crank it up to the point that this place
is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6
> Face it: you have no evidence for your accusations; you have
> no support for your anti-choice stance in terms of desktop
> Linux users.
18- Dawg Tail: [...] "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux
advocates. Almost all of them are making similar claims about
Snit. When you have so many diverse people who share a common
perception where do you think the problem lies? With Snit? Or
almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced
degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b
> You simply are begging to be accepted by the lowest of the low
> in Usenet. How pathetic.
5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member of
CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being better than
then, rise above the low level you so obviously dislike.
Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
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HPT
> Snit wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>
>>> You're a hideous troll in sheep's clothing.
>>
>> Yet you use his words to "show" something about me... but deny
>> his words say something about you.
>
> I have discretion, something Snit doesn't understand.
You are a hypocrite seeking the approval of Steve Carroll and Wally - two of
the "crew". You run from your BS by trying to put me on the defensive... by
spewing their meaningless drivel. Hey, two birds with one stone: you get to
run from your own BS as you beg to be accepted by the scum of Usenet.
Such loveliness... you must be proud!
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Wrong. We are independent operators. We don't need approval to
put the screws on you, a hideous troll.
> You run from your BS by trying to put me on the defensive...
> by spewing their meaningless drivel.
38- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting the same following message over and over, in false
pretense as a Linux advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least.
I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious
when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill,
and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his
wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of
his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling
and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be
helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
> Hey, two birds with one stone: you get to run from your own BS
> as you beg to be accepted by the scum of Usenet.
43- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't
help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it
detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
a newsgroup such as this." 18 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862
> Such loveliness... you must be proud!
71- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they
are off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring
and clearly show that you are crying out for attention." 20 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80
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HPT
That's because he believes he's smarter than everyone else... he
obviously believes people won't notice he made such a claim only to go
right back at it. I don't know where he developed this idea that
people are as stupid as he needs them to be. It's very strange being
that everyone tells him his BS doesn't fly. It's like there are two
Snit's (a distinct possibility).
> Snit wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>>>
>>>>> You're a hideous troll in sheep's clothing.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you use his words to "show" something about me... but
>>>> deny his words say something about you.
>>>
>>> I have discretion, something Snit doesn't understand.
>>
>> You are a hypocrite seeking the approval of Steve Carroll and
>> Wally - two of the "crew".
>
> Wrong. We are independent operators. We don't need approval to
> put the screws on you, a hideous troll.
Peter Kölhlmann lies and claims unimpeachable evidence is "forged".
High Plain Thumper lies and claims unimpeachable evidence is "forged".
Steve Carroll scavenged and forges quotes back to 2004 in an amazing sign of
his mental illness(es).
High Plains Thumper uses Steve Carroll *exact* same BS.
Wally lies and claims that if someone notes they have posted an accurate
quote that this, somehow (he never says how), shows puppetry.
High Plains Thumper uses the *exact* same meaningless drivel.
I do not know who you think you are fooling: but you are clearly:
* running from the fact that you cannot actually refute my comments
about Linux. Remember Linux? You know: the OS under discussion
when you freaked out.
* begging to be accepted by the lowest of the low on Usenet. You
clearly and unambiguously seek to be part of their sick little
groups. And as long as you use their lies they will accept you
in with open arms.
Seriously, HPT, who do you think is stupid enough to not see this? Anyone
who reads your posts knows you are a liar, a hypocrite, and are painfully
over your head in any debate you have had with me about Linux. That is why
you avoid technical topics.
Here, proof: explain your opposition to greater choice for desktop Linux
users as I have repeatedly described.
You will not. You simply cannot handle talking about on-topic issues.
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Snit is bipolar?
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HPT
> Steve Carroll wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> See the hypocrisy.
>>>
>>> In Snit's reply.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bb109592ad5a...
>>>
>>> Snit: "I have been giving he and HPT too much attention
>>> recently..."
>>>
>>> Yet Snit is right back at it.
>>
>> That's because he believes he's smarter than everyone else...
>> he obviously believes people won't notice he made such a claim
>> only to go right back at it. I don't know where he developed
>> this idea that people are as stupid as he needs them to be.
>> It's very strange being that everyone tells him his BS doesn't
>> fly. It's like there are two Snit's (a distinct possibility).
>
> Snit is bipolar?
Nope, but as Jeff correctly notes below, in the quote that you used, my
health concerns are brought to CSMA and COLA. Steve Carroll went to another
forum, a *health support* forum where I discussed my health concerns, and he
tried to embarrass me by bringing them to CSMA and COLA and openly lying
about me. As is his norm. Much later, he did more than just copy info from
the support forum, he started spewing his BS back into that forum, where he
was told his BS was not believed... Trolls such as you and he are not
tolerated in groups other than CSMA and COLA. After it was clear *nobody*
in the other group would even pretend to believe his garbage he stopped
spewing it. At least from what I have seen...
> --
> HPT
> 43- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
> 12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't
> help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it
> detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
> a newsgroup such as this." 18 Nov 2004
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862
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(snip)
> > Snit is bipolar?
>
> Nope, but as Jeff correctly notes below, in the quote that you used, my
> health concerns are brought to CSMA and COLA.
Here is the text that Jeff responded to:
[begin quote]
Hmmmm, I do not remember pointing out any trolling by you... so what
is your
support for your claim.
Please keep in mind that based on my anxiety disorder I have seen a
number
of professionals who have consistently agreed I handle the stresses of
life
better than average, am well adjusted, and am in no need of any
psychological counseling.
Ahhhh, trolls... what say you?
[end quote]
Here is the link for the material quoted above:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/24db5bb9dc287b3f?dmode=source
Here is the pertinent header info that identifies who wrote the post
that Jeff responded to:
Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!proxad.net!
newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Well whadya know! It's YOU... asking for comments on your health
issues (while you call virtually everyone a troll), Mr. Disingenuous
Liar.
Here is Jeff's entire response to YOU:
[begin quote]
What has your medical condition have to do with any of this? Are you
trying to find an excuse for your behavior via your condition? Are
you
blaming your behavior on your condition? Are you trying to prove
that
you're somewhat mentally stable? Or not?
This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step recovery
plan.
Your medical problems or conditions won't help me achieve a greater
understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those
kinds
of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this.
Trolls don't have to be frequent visitors who bash the Macintosh
platform in order to start a heated flame war -- they're frequent
visitors who consistently take part in meaningless, off-topic
discussions whose tone swings between offensive and defensive often:
something you've demonstrated twice in your last post alone.
Talk about your Mac, or lack thereof, and try to stay on-topic
please.
[end quote]
(snip additional BS by Snit)
Poor Snit... reality bit him on the ass again.