A BLATANT LIE
Walt
Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
Bardin. ( hope the link works)
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
Ben Holmes
Walt says...
>
>
>Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
>NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
>your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
Buddy the troll is a clown... he's been dishonest so many times that I don't
know if he *can* tell the difference between the truth and a lie.
>Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
>Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>
> http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
>
>
> The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
> There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
>report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
>ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
>Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
>revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
>pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>
>Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>
>Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
>tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
>and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
The ones column is clearly a '0' and a '5'. The '5' typography is distinctive,
and you can see it elsewhere on the same page. It can't possibly be a '9', as
is clear from comparison's to another '9' on the same page.
Buddy is a bald-faced liar. The typography isn't even capable of supporting any
debate.
Walt
Dud.... You've just reached a new low.... What a barefaced liar
you
are!! Have you no shame??
The time that was originally typed on the report was 1:00.... It's
very clear on my computer monitor.
I'm astonished at your stupidity!! Why would you attempt a barefaced
lie
like claiming the time was 1:19 when Officers Davenport and Bardin
saw
Dr Liquori attempting to revive Tippit???.... When the type-over
alteration on the report clearly says 1:15 . Do you think Dr Liquori
went back to Tipiits cold body and attempted to restore life after he
had already pronounced him dead four minutes before???
muc...@gmail.com
Walt? Did you take into consideration that Internet Explorer has a
tendency to resize graphics - an icon to expand to regular size
appears when the mouse is moved over the picture - before you accused
Bud of lying?
Burly...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ever notice how the words "lie" and "dishonest" attaract Ben Holmes?
muc...@gmail.com
Yes, Ben likes to portray himself as a guardian of truth and honesty.
Could anything be more ironic?
Walt
> In article <2b2f1722-6c28-4d5a-8a45-d17c8fadc...@47g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> Walt says...
>
>
>
> >Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
> >NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
> >your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>
> Buddy the troll is a clown... he's been dishonest so many times that I don't
> know if he *can* tell the difference between the truth and a lie.
>
>
>
>
>
> >Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
> >Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>
> >http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
Ben, this report is one of the best pieces of evidence I've ever seen
which shows the desperation of the conspirators to alter facts and
frame the patsy..... It's very obvious to me what was being attempted
by trying to change the time on officer's Davenport and Barden's
report. The conspirators didn't realize at the time (11-22-63) that
there would be a problem with reporting that Dr Liquori had pronounced
Tippit dead at 1:15. (The time the ambulance arrived at Methodist
hospital)
It wasn't until the Warren Commission found that the chronology for
the shooting did not fit with Oswald's known movements for that
afternoon, that they realized that they would have to alter documents
and transcripts of radio transmissions, to make the frame up work.
Officer's Davenport and Bardin merely typed up a report, about what
they had witnessed, and filed it. Later it was discovered that their
report made it clear that Tippit was murdered BEFORE 1:15, because
they said that they followed the ambulance to Methodist hospital and
helped carry "the wounded officer" into the hospital. Then after the
medical personnel attempts to ..." bring the officer back to
life"..., Dr Liquori pronounced him dead. The officers merely used
the time of 1:00 pm because they didn't know the exact time that
Tippit was pronounced dead. ( They knew he was dead when they helped
carry him into the hospital because their words reveal that the knew
he was dead. Quote .." bring the officer back to life"...unquote )
Since they knew he was dead ON ARRIVAL they assumed that the time of
death would be 1:00 ( the time of the shooting) It's possible that
the doctor may have apologized by saying something like..."I'm sorry,
I tried.... but I believe that bullet through his brain killed him
instantly" Therefore they used the time of 1:00 pm for the time of
death.
Later their report was discovered which conflicted with the official
lie being created by the Warren Commission and they had to alter that
report. But by then it was already official that Tippit had been
PRONOUNCED ( an official time of death) dead at 1:15, so they couldn't
advance the time beyond 1:15. But if he was already at the hospital
where Dr. Liquori pronounced him dead at 1:15, then obviously the
shooting had to occur at least ten minutes before the arrival of the
ambulance at Methodist.
The other aspect of Davenport and Barden's report that reveals the
treachery of the conspirators is the fact that there was only THREE
live rounds taken from Oswald.
>
> > The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
> > There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
> >report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
> >ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
> >Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
> >revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
> >pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>
> >Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>
> >Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
> >tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
> >and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>
> The ones column is clearly a '0' and a '5'. The '5' typography is distinctive,
> and you can see it elsewhere on the same page. It can't possibly be a '9', as
> is clear from comparison's to another '9' on the same page.
>
> Buddy is a bald-faced liar. The typography isn't even capable of supporting any
> debate.- Hide quoted text -
Walt
Ha, ha,ha,ha,....ROTFLMAO!!.... One liar supporting another by
creating another lie...Hee hee hee
muc...@gmail.com
Does not compute. Explain "lie".
Ben Holmes
Walt says...
>
>On 3 Mar, 09:19, much...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On 3 Mar., 15:37, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
>> > your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>>
>> > Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
>> > Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>>
>>
>> > =A0The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
>> > =A0There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
>> > report =A0DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
>> > ambulance to =A0Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
>> > Richard =A0Liquori =A0pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
>> > revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
>> > pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>>
>> > Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>>
>> > Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
>> > tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
>> > and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>>
>> Walt? Did you take into consideration that Internet Explorer has a
>> tendency to resize graphics - an icon to expand to regular size
>> appears when the mouse is moved over the picture - before you accused
>> Bud of lying?
>
>Ha, ha,ha,ha,....ROTFLMAO!!.... One liar supporting another by
>creating another lie...Hee hee hee
Trolls lie, that's what trolls do.
They apparently have no shame about it either. The last digit can't possibly be
a "9", as is quite obviously clear to anyone who takes more than 10 seconds to
review it.
muc...@gmail.com
> In article <b3b370d0-b7d8-422b-9c97-5175b7648...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Well, we know you do...
> They apparently have no shame about it either. The last digit can't possibly be
> a "9", as is quite obviously clear to anyone who takes more than 10 seconds to
> review it.
...if you're looking at the regular sized image, but not necessarily
if the image has been scaled down to the size of your browser window.
Is that a particularly difficult concept for you and Walt to
understand?
Burly...@gmail.com
> In article <b3b370d0-b7d8-422b-9c97-5175b7648...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wrong, Mr. Holmes. At least where I am concerned.
You were caught-- red handed --changing words in a post made by
me( the definiton of the word "dishonest") and, when caught, first
lied and said you hadn't, then, admitted that you "clean up posts"
before responding to them.
Thus, my post stating that the words "lie" and "dishonest" seem to
suck you up you like a magnet! You have been caught doing both, and
jump at the opportunity to call someone else something that you are!
You are the "dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you"
Walt
Back peddle ....back peddle...dodge and evade....
I have no trouble hitting the enlarge icon and the document becomes
very easy to read... And yer not kiddin anybody you can see that the
original time on Davenport and Barden's report said 1:00 pm. Bud
knew it too, he just thought he could fool the lurkers into believing
the time originally said 1:19.... What an IDIOT!!
Gil Jesus
....
>
> I have no trouble hitting the enlarge icon and the document becomes
> very easy to read... �And yer not kiddin anybody you can see that the
> original time on Davenport and Barden's report said 1:00 pm. � Bud
> knew it too, he just thought he could fool the lurkers into believing
> the time originally said 1:19.... What an IDIOT!!
Walt it's OBVIOUS to anyone with vision that this is a "15" over a
"00".
Of course the troll known as Bud is a liar when he suggests that the 5
over a zero is a 9.
Anyone who supports his lies is not interested in the truth and
therefore a liar also.
Great job Walt !!!
YoHarvey
Wow Walt....you must feel honored. You got a "Great Job Walt" comment
from our resident pathological lying homophibc racist hypocrite.
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....how impressive! :-)
David Von Pein
Tippit was STILL LYING ON TENTH STREET at 1:16 PM!
So, therefore, Tippit obviously could not have been pronounced dead at
"1:15 PM" at the hospital.
The "1:00" and "1"15" times on that report are (quite obviously)
merely APPROXIMATE times being written in there (in perfect "quarter-
hour" segments you'll note). And note how ALL other times within that
same report are written in approximated-like "on the quarter-hour or
half-hour" segments.
But Walt (being the ABO kook we all know he is) will overlook the BEST
"timeline" evidence (which is the DPD timestamping of the Bowley radio
call at 1:16 PM, a time when we know beyond all doubt that J.D. Tippit
was still lying in the middle of Tenth Street), with Walt latching
onto the police report instead, which obviously only includes
approximated (quarter-hour) timing estimates on it.
Try again, kook. Because the "1:16" DPD radio logs totally debunk your
nonsense in this thread.
Gil Jesus
> Try again, kook. Because the "1:16" DPD radio logs totally debunk your
> nonsense in this thread.
Yes and the Dallas Police would NEVER lie, right ?
Bud
Ben Holmes wrote:
> In article <2b2f1722-6c28-4d5a...@47g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> Walt says...
> >
> >
> >Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
> >NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
> >your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>
>
> Buddy the troll is a clown... he's been dishonest so many times that I don't
> know if he *can* tell the difference between the truth and a lie.
I read most of what you w3rite.
> >Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
> >Bardin. ( hope the link works)
> >
> > http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
> >
> >
> > The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
> > There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
> >report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
> >ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
> >Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
> >revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
> >pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
> >
> >Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
> >
> >Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
> >tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
> >and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>
> The ones column is clearly a '0' and a '5'. The '5' typography is distinctive,
> and you can see it elsewhere on the same page. It can't possibly be a '9', as
> is clear from comparison's to another '9' on the same page.
Ok, heres the truth, although it`s doubtful you or Walt will be
able to recognize it. When I looked at the number in the ones column,
I saw the "swoop" extending below the line of chracters, and assumed
it had to be the "tail" on a nine. I never compared it to the other
numbers on the page, if I had, I would have seen that the "5" (and the
"3") swoop down below the level of the letters also. You kooks will
never catch me being dishonest, the competition here doesn`t require
it.
> Buddy is a bald-faced liar. The typography isn't even capable of supporting any
> debate.
Now you have a problem with Walt, because he has the conspiracy
doing the over-type. You agree the numbers typed over were both zeros,
right? Was Tippit alive at 1 o`clock?
Gil Jesus
>
> Wow Walt....you must feel honored. �You got a "Great Job Walt" comment
> from our resident pathological lying homophibc racist hypocrite.
Speaking of pathological liars....... Pathological liars don't post
citations, they just accuse. Does Yoharvey post citations ? Here are
YoHarvey's lies with documented links.
Tell him to post mine.
THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR KNOWN AS YOHARVEY
1.It was YoHarvey, under the screenname baileynme who claimed that the
Oswald rifle had no scope when found. Baileynme-spiffy-YoHarvey wrote:
"The scope was NOT on the MC when it was found. It was laying
alongside the weapon."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e3aedb4b219289ad
But a photo of Lt. Day in the TSBD picking the rifle up by the strap
SHOWS a scope ATTACHED:
http://pictures.aol.com/galleries/gjjmail/41602cXrkH0*ic1Lb0imwIK1Lw8sYt--F*VUv4xQp5Fd3Ig=/large/
YOHARVEY AS A SNEAK
2. he/she tried to infiltrate JFKconspiracy under a different
screenname
YOHARVEY AS AN IDIOT
3. he/she claimed that Operation White Star began in Cambodia in 1962,
when in fact it began in Laos in 1958 and ended with the Declaration
of Neutrality in 1962
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f1e7c24a013b01d0
at which time I corrected his/her lack of historical knowledge
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/fc6cacfb427769c5
YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
4. he/she posted a false "letter" and attributed the author as my
third grade teacher, who claimed to have me in her class at a time
when I was in kindergarten, proving himself/herself once again as a
liar.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4f6f846cc8f05f54
YOHARVEY AS A SNEAK
5. posted an article by Dave Reitzes
http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100custody.html
as his own without giving Reitzes any credit
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/293de06a42d2729e
YOHARVEY AS AN IDIOT
6. Then he/she perpetrated a falsehood that:: " In the mid 1950's Lee
Oswald spoke about killing an American President. Palmer MacBride
testified to the WC, in 1956 he befriended Oswald and they often
discussed politics. MacBride said that one central theme discussed was
the "exploitation of the working class" and one one occassion after
they began discussing President Eisenhower, Oswald made a statement
that he would like to kill the President because he was exploiting the
working class.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/275a8c64ca997ce4
but in fact: McBride's affidavit given to the FBI alleged that Oswald
made the statement in "late 1957 or early 1958", not in 1956 as
YoHarvey claimed. The 1957-58 timeframe conflicted with Marine records
that clearly showed that Oswald was in Japan at that time.
http://www.jfkresearch.com/jfk_101.html
YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
7. In one post YoHarvey calls the Education Forum the "research
community"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/48acfed5de8ec2ac
then he refers to it as a "demented group of misfits"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f100f49279807b0e
in another post he refers to it as "major kook central"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/605057d1f9873de2
YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
8. YoHarvey lied when he/she said that I was arrested in March 1994
for not paying a cable TV bill. He/she would like the reader to
believe that the theft of cable TV would go on for 2 or 3 years
without their knowing. He/she provides no evidence to support this
charge except his say so. No links to any police records, court
records, newspaper accounts of the theft. No links. No info.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/515311a1bd65759b
YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
9. YoHarvey lied when he said that I believed that Santos Trafficante
meant that JFK was going to be hit by Jackie because she found a bra
under JFK's pillow. I never said that. YOHARVEY DID THEN ATTRIBUTED IT
TO ME!! Here's the link to YoLarvae's ridiculous post:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/aeddd4f800150a44
and my response was:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8140300091f92867
YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
10. YoHarvey claimed that I said that Connally shot JFK. The post that
was cited is here.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dd783b571f900c24
But as the post shows, I didn't actually say it, I implied it.
Implying something is not the same as actually saying something. Once
again, YoHarvey and his fellow falsifiers took something that I
implied and tried to spin it. In fact, if you do a search of this
newsgroup of the phrase "Connally shot JFK", you'll find that most, if
not all of the posts were made by the trolls and that I never actually
said any such thing. I put to rest any notion that I ever actually
said any such thing here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/25bc946d919d2937
causing another round of troll tears.
11. YOHARVEY AS A LIAR
YoHarvey produces a fake newspaper story that claims that I was being
questioned for killing JFK, even though I was only 9 when he was
murdered.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d202c8da08ea114f
YoHarvey/justme1952 makes up LIES as he/she goes along...like these:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bc526ae91bd97331
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/54b99cbd78e1b516
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c31913883d98d97a
Not only is he/she a liar, he/she admits to living a lie:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d8a4e3914459a3e9
ANTICHRIST YOHARVEY POKING FUN OF THE CRUCIFIXION
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3e955da36f61d10f
Given his/her propensity for being a sneak, an idiot and lying, can we
believe ANYTHING YoHarvey/baileynme/spiffy says ?
justm...@gmail.com
> On Mar 3, 5:28�pm, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow Walt....you must feel honored. �You got a "Great Job Walt" comment
> > from our resident pathological lying homophibc racist hypocrite.
> > Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....how impressive! �
>
> Speaking of pathological liars....... Pathological liars don't post
> citations, they just accuse. Does Yoharvey post citations ? Here are
> YoHarvey's lies with documented links.
>
> Tell him to post mine.
>
> THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR KNOWN AS YOHARVEY
>
> 1.It was YoHarvey, under the screenname baileynme who claimed that the
> Oswald rifle had no scope when found. Baileynme-spiffy-YoHarvey wrote:
> "The scope was NOT on the MC when it was found. It was laying
> alongside the weapon."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e3aedb4b219289ad
>
> But a photo of Lt. Day in the TSBD picking the rifle up by the strap
> SHOWS a scope ATTACHED:
>
ROFLMAO once again...whine baby Chico whine.
Gil Jesus
THE MENTAL CASE KNOWN AS JUSTME1952
yoharvey/justme1952 accused an "imposter" of posting a post of hers to
other newsgroups, when in fact HE/SHE was the one who cross-posted
it:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a1714b6d2ffd26fd
then when she found out that his/her post was on other newsgroups, he/
she flipped out, blaming the "imposter" for creating "bogus"
newsgroups :
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/55eea239ebd9c15d
These unbelievable posts from a self described "Information
Technology" EXPERT with over 12 years experience. Since, then, he/
she's seen Gil Jesuses everywhere. Every new poster using AOL has been
accused of being me. In addition, she was so convinced that I was the
imposter, she complained to AIOE, the news server that I was using at
the time, then announced that she had received an e-mail from them
advising that I had been banned from the newsserver.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b6ffb12116db4645
When she announced I had been banned, I went to my newsreader to
connect to AIOE and it asked me for a screenname and password, so
naturally, I thought they had changed to a pay server. During that
general timeframe, I must have used another server in search of other
newsgroups (not all servers carry ALL newsgroups) because I found out
months later that my newsreader was configured for a screenname and
password. Once she announced that the server was still free, I went to
my newsreader and found the glitch. Then I posted from the AIOE server
to prove that her claim that I was banned wasn't true, she flipped out
and sent another letter of complaint to the newsserver.
Once again she announced that I had been re-banned.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ba22348fc749b3a9
I once again posted from the newsserver 5 hours after her announcement
in order to prove that I had, in fact, NOT been re-banned.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b6ffb12116db4645
Simply ridiculous.
Every time he/she posts. he/she displays the depth of his/her mental
illness. It really IS sad.
Not only has this nutcase LIED about getting me bounced off of a
server, she's also accused me of being Robcap and provided "evidence"
to support her contention, something that I have already proven to be
false.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a13cb7015cb7f9ab
BIGOT JUSTME's USE OF THE WORD "FAGGOT"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f6f01f17e7576000
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4603e6fc16667f80
BIGOT JUSTME'S USE OF THE TERM "SISSY"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d6f13999639fc587
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f94449ca6cb9b275
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9ee148ec2ece0a2d
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4603e6fc16667f80
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b5496d84d37e49a9
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e446a3f76ab693ce
GARBAGE-MOUTHED JUSTME
Chico? KISS MY ASS!
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Healy? Even your ebonics don't make any sense....just shows how
fucking stupid you really are. You know nothing about the internet
asshole, I've worked in IT for 12 years...now go sit in a corner
somewhere and stfu!
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I have all the proof i need, shit for brains and its been sent to the
proper authorities. As I said before go find a corner to sit in and
stfu...this doesn't concern you.
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The cloned posts and emails are coming from that server...got it
fucktard??????
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I receive my email back I'll make sure and post it for the entire
newsgroup to see who the asshole is that started something as a game
and now is in deep shit.
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Chico can stuff the other foot in his mouth now for accusing YoHarvey
and I of being the same person. Shit for brains that he is.
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Two words for you Rossely...FUCK OFF!
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I could have cared less that someone was posting with my name or any
other LN's on this newsgroup UNTIL they used the word "Cunt" in their
last post. That was where I drew the line. I can tolerate any other
cuss word there is, name calling and insults, but that one was the end
of the road...and it wouldn't have mattered who was being called it.
That post was downright disgusting and the person that posted it will
pay.
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I could have cared less that someone was posting with my name or any
other LN's on this newsgroup UNTIL they used the word "Cunt" in their
last post. You can see what a fucking moron Rossely is as hes
mentioned the word at least 12 times in his repeated posts that say
nothing
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Holmes uses Healys ass to park his tricycle now...
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Bigdog thinks you're a fucking asshole, so do the rest of the LN's on
this group.
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*sniff, sniff*...got that nose right up Bens ass again huh Healy??
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justm...@gmail.com
>
> BIGOT JUSTME'S USE OF THE TERM "SISSY"
>
Thanks for the advertisement bigot. Did they throw you out of the KKK
because of your stupidity too? Did mommy find her little sissy boy a
job yet? I wonder what mommy would think if she knew what you do all
day long instead of going out and finding work. Maybe we'll find out
someday. We all know a sissy boy wants to make his mommy proud.
David Von Pein
Of course, Gil. EVERYBODY would "lie" to frame poor Ozzie, wouldn't
they? (Didn't they?)
The only problem you've got now is this one:
WHY didn't the DPD officers who wrote up that "1:15" time-of-death
report get the widely-distributed internal memo to all DPD/FBI/SS
personnel that said:
"WE'RE FRAMING OSWALD ON FRIDAY, SO MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR
REPORTS ARE FALSIFIED ACCORDINGLY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY"?
Per Gil-Kook, the DPD radio log is a "lie" (naturally), but people
from the SAME DEPARTMENT (the DPD) WEREN'T "lying" when they typed in
"1:15" over the top of the initial "1:00" on a police report.
The life of an ABO kook is grand, isn't it Gilbert? You get to pick
what evidence you want to believe and what verified evidence you want
to throw out the window.
And, best of all, you get to INVENT stuff from whole cloth to support
your Anybody-Except-Oz silliness too! And some people will ACTUALLY
believe it too! (That's also a nice sidebar bonus for the ABO kooks
too.)
How does it feel knowing you're supporting a cop-killer and a murderer
of the 35th U.S. President 24/7?
Feels good, huh?
(That "good" feeling exists because you're a moronic kook, btw. No
other reason.)
Bud
Walt wrote:
> On 3 Mar, 09:09, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
> > In article <2b2f1722-6c28-4d5a-8a45-d17c8fadc...@47g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Walt says...
> >
> >
> >
> > >Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
> > >NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. � ( Yes, he even topped
> > >your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
> >
> > Buddy the troll is a clown... he's been dishonest so many times that I don't
> > know if he *can* tell the difference between the truth and a lie.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
> > >Bardin. ( hope the link works)
> >
> > >http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
>
> Ben, this report is one of the best pieces of evidence I've ever seen
> which shows the desperation of the conspirators to alter facts and
> frame the patsy..... It's very obvious to me what was being attempted
> by trying to change the time on officer's Davenport and Barden's
> report.
Did you ask them if they made the change?
> The conspirators didn't realize at the time (11-22-63) that
> there would be a problem with reporting that Dr Liquori had pronounced
> Tippit dead at 1:15.
You haven`t shown Dr Liquiri saying this. Where is his report, what
time did he write?
> (The time the ambulance arrived at Methodist
> hospital)
How do you know what time the ambulance arrived? You produced an
article questioning the accuracy of the times used by the DPD
dispatchers. If you don`t accept the only established times available,
what use are other unestablished times?
> It wasn't until the Warren Commission found that the chronology for
> the shooting did not fit with Oswald's known movements for that
> afternoon, that they realized that they would have to alter documents
> and transcripts of radio transmissions, to make the frame up work.
>
> Officer's Davenport and Bardin merely typed up a report, about what
> they had witnessed, and filed it. Later it was discovered that their
> report made it clear that Tippit was murdered BEFORE 1:15,
At one o`clock? And nobody called it in until 1:16?
> because
> they said that they followed the ambulance to Methodist hospital and
> helped carry "the wounded officer" into the hospital. Then after the
> medical personnel attempts to ..." bring the officer back to
> life"..., Dr Liquori pronounced him dead.
The autopsy said he was DOA. And lets see you produce something
from Liquori about when Tippit was pronounced dead.
> The officers merely used
> the time of 1:00 pm because they didn't know the exact time that
> Tippit was pronounced dead.
Idiot speculation.
> ( They knew he was dead when they helped
> carry him into the hospital because their words reveal that the knew
> he was dead. Quote .." bring the officer back to life"...unquote )
> Since they knew he was dead ON ARRIVAL they assumed that the time of
> death would be 1:00 ( the time of the shooting) It's possible that
> the doctor may have apologized by saying something like..."I'm sorry,
> I tried.... but I believe that bullet through his brain killed him
> instantly" Therefore they used the time of 1:00 pm for the time of
> death.
>
> Later their report was discovered which conflicted with the official
> lie being created by the Warren Commission and they had to alter that
> report. But by then it was already official that Tippit had been
> PRONOUNCED ( an official time of death) dead at 1:15, so they couldn't
> advance the time beyond 1:15. But if he was already at the hospital
> where Dr. Liquori pronounced him dead at 1:15, then obviously the
> shooting had to occur at least ten minutes before the arrival of the
> ambulance at Methodist.
You are running in circles with unestablished times again.
> The other aspect of Davenport and Barden's report that reveals the
> treachery of the conspirators is the fact that there was only THREE
> live rounds taken from Oswald.
What makes their "three" reliable, why does it trump the "five"
other sources report?
Bud
The link to the document was right above my comments, knucklehead.
Was I counting on them being unable to click onto it?
> What an IDIOT!!
I appreciate Mark`s support, and I gave the actual cause in a
response to Ben. Particulars of this crime were Netscape brower, on
"full screen", right before my bedtime, a quick look, saw the "swoop"
below the character line, concluded it was a "9". Failed to consider
that that particular font might have other numbers which extended
below the chracter line. Sloppy, yes, dishonest, no, but you kooks are
welcome to hi-five one another over it. Your victories are few and far
between, here and in life.
While I have you here, I might as well ask you this... what method
did you use to detrmine it was the "15" that was typed over the "00",
and not the other way around?
Walt
Hey Dud, yer honest like a used car salesman.... Oh my
goodness...You say the transmission fell out of that car I sold
you?.... I can't believe it, you musta been hot-roddin... cuz I got
that car from a little ol lady who just drove it to chuch on Sunday
and took it to the dealer for regular maintenance. I swear, that car
I sold you was one of the best cars I've ever had on the lot.
but you kooks are
> welcome to hi-five one another over it. Your victories are few and far
> between, here and in life.
>
> While I have you here, I might as well ask you this... what method
> did you use to detrmine it was the "15" that was typed over the "00",
> and not the other way around?
>
>
>
> > - Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Ben Holmes
Walt says...
>
>On 3 Mar, 17:10, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>> Walt wrote:
>> > On 3 Mar, 12:27, much...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On 3 Mar., 19:08, Ben Holmes <ad...@khadaji.com> wrote:
>>
>roups.com>,
>> > > > Walt says...
>>
>> > > > >On 3 Mar, 09:19, much...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > >> On 3 Mar., 15:37, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>>
>n this
>> > > > >> > NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. =3DA0 ( Yes, he eve=
>n topped
>> > > > >> > your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>>
>
>> > > > >> > Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>>
>>
>> > > > >> > =3DA0The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.=
>
>> > > > >> > =3DA0There is evidence that this is not correct. According to t=
>heir
>> > > > >> > report =3DA0DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followe=
>d the
>> > > > >> > ambulance to =3DA0Methodist Hospital and stated in their report=
> that Dr.
>> > > > >> > Richard =3DA0Liquori =3DA0pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after =
>trying to
>> > > > >> > revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in =
>as 1:00
>> > > > >> > pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>>
>> > > > >> > Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>>
> the
>> > > > >> > tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens col=
>umn,
>> > > > >> > and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>>
>a
>> > > > >> tendency to resize graphics - an icon to expand to regular size
>used
>> > > > >> Bud of lying?
>>
>> > > > >Ha, ha,ha,ha,....ROTFLMAO!!.... One liar supporting another by
>> > > > >creating another lie...Hee hee hee
>>
>> > > > Trolls lie, that's what trolls do.
>>
>> > > Well, we know you do...
>>
>it can't possibly be
>seconds to
>> > > > review it.
>>
>> > > ...if you're looking at the regular sized image, but not necessarily
>> > > if the image has been scaled down to the size of your browser window.
>> > > Is that a particularly difficult concept for you and Walt to
>> > > understand?
>>
>> > Back peddle ....back peddle...dodge and evade....
>>
>> > I have no trouble hitting the enlarge icon and the document becomes
>he
>> > original time on Davenport and Barden's report said 1:00 pm. =C2=A0 Bud
>> > knew it too, he just thought he could fool the lurkers into believing
>> > the time originally said 1:19....
>>
>head.
>> Was I counting on them being unable to click onto it?
>>
>> > What an IDIOT!!
>>
>
>> response to Ben. Particulars of this crime were Netscape brower, on
>> "full screen", right before my bedtime, a quick look, saw the "swoop"
>> below the character line, concluded it was a "9". Failed to consider
>> that that particular font might have other numbers which extended
>> below the chracter line. Sloppy, yes, dishonest, no,
>
>Hey Dud, yer honest like a used car salesman.... Oh my
>goodness...You say the transmission fell out of that car I sold
>you?.... I can't believe it, you musta been hot-roddin... cuz I got
>that car from a little ol lady who just drove it to chuch on Sunday
>and took it to the dealer for regular maintenance. I swear, that car
>I sold you was one of the best cars I've ever had on the lot.
Actually, I consider it somewhat of a shock to see Buddy the troll with this
much honesty.
Its far more, for example, than Bob has been showing with the eyewitness
accounts... so Buddy is to be commended.
It's apparently a 'new thing' for Buddy.
> but you kooks are
>> welcome to hi-five one another over it. Your victories are few and far
>> between, here and in life.
>>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0While I have you here, I might as well ask you this... what m=
Bud
All you had to do is ask. Or, take the kook option of running off
with your assumptions. Walt is so enamored with his opinions that no
amount of explaining will supplant the reality of his choosing.
> Its far more, for example, than Bob has been showing with the eyewitness
> accounts... so Buddy is to be commended.
Your revised opinion of me means as little to me as your original
one did.
> It's apparently a 'new thing' for Buddy.
It`s actualy the same old poor thinking being exhibited by you
kooks. Why would I try to misrepresent information that was linked to
right before my words if I didn`t believe (even if mistakenly) what I
asserted? That all you kooks (Gil, Ben and Walt) jumped to the wrong
conclusion is to be expected.
Bud
And you are a special kind of stupid. You have yet to exhibit any
aptitude or qualidfications to look into any aspect of this case, yet
somehow feel you are the man for the job.
> Oh my
> goodness...You say the transmission fell out of that car I sold
> you?.... I can't believe it, you musta been hot-roddin... cuz I got
> that car from a little ol lady who just drove it to chuch on Sunday
> and took it to the dealer for regular maintenance. I swear, that car
> I sold you was one of the best cars I've ever had on the lot.
>
>
> but you kooks are
> > welcome to hi-five one another over it. Your victories are few and far
> > between, here and in life.
> >
> > While I have you here, I might as well ask you this... what method
> > did you use to detrmine it was the "15" that was typed over the "00",
> > and not the other way around?
How about this, Walt? What method did you use to determine it was
Walt
Duhhh!.. It's elementary you flippin idiot! See the numeral "1" just
preceding the type -over??
Does the the nemral "1" match the "00" or the "15"?? It's obvious
the the "15" keys were either struck harder or the ribbon was newer
when the 00 was altered.
Damn yer dumb!..... A smart man would simply admit he lied and
apologize for being deceitful...
justm...@gmail.com
Nice sales pitch Walt, were you once employed by the junkyard dog
Chico Jesus? You know what Walt? I used to read your posts because you
were one of the only CT's that actually discussed things using half a
brain. I don't know what the hell happened to you, but you've turned
into a nutcase like the rest of the morons CT's on here. You sound
more and more like Healy everyday. Trust me this is NOT a compliment!
Even your typing sucks...careful you don't stroke out with all this
pressure you're under trying to prove you are NEVER wrong.
Bud
> > aptitude or qualifications to look into any aspect of this case, yet
> > somehow feel you are the man for the job.
> >
> > > Oh my
> > > goodness...You say the transmission fell out of that car I sold
> > > you?.... I can't believe it, you musta been hot-roddin... cuz I got
> > > that car from a little ol lady who just drove it to chuch on Sunday
> > > and took it to the dealer for regular maintenance. I swear, that car
> > > I sold you was one of the best cars I've ever had on the lot.
> >
> > > but you kooks are
> > > > welcome to hi-five one another over it. Your victories are few and far
> > > > between, here and in life.
> >
> > > > While I have you here, I might as well ask you this... what method
> > > > did you use to detrmine it was the "15" that was typed over the "00",
> > > > and not the other way around?
> >
> > How about this, Walt? What method did you use to determine it was
> > the "15" that was typed over the "00", and not the other way around?
>
> Duhhh!.. It's elementary you flippin idiot! See the numeral "1" just
> preceding the type -over??
So your method was to look at a copy of the original.
> Does the the nemral "1" match the "00" or the "15"?? It's obvious
> the the "15" keys were either struck harder or the ribbon was newer
> when the 00 was altered.
That doesn`t tell you which was typed first.
> Damn yer dumb!..... A smart man would simply admit he lied and
> apologize for being deceitful...
I admitted my mistake. You did with my explaination what you do
with any information that goes against your preconceived notions. You
disregarded it.
Walt
Ya don't like what I post?... Don't read em.
You sound
> more and more like Healy everyday. Trust me this is NOT a compliment!
> Even your typing sucks...careful you don't stroke out with all this
> pressure you're under trying to prove you are NEVER wrong.- Hide quoted text -
justm...@gmail.com
I very seldom do anymore...filled with hogwash. What Bud said is true,
as soon as someone proves you wrong you ignore the post and move on to
something else. Another coward.
Walt
Let's review your statement again....
Walt wrote:
According to the WC Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm. There is evidence
that this is not correct.
DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the ambulance
to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr. Richard
Liquori pronounced Tippit dead at 1:15 pm after trying to revive
him.
Dud wrote:
That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the tens and ones
columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column, and a "6" and a
"9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19.
We both know that if Tippit's body was at Methodist hospital at 1:15,
he had to have been shot at least ten minutes prior to his arrival at
Methodist. Which means he was shot a few minutes after 1:00pm. This
corresponds with the witnesses who's affidavit's gave the time that
they witnessed events surrounding Tippit's death. Helen Markham said
in her affidavit that she saw Tippit shot at 1:06 as she was on her
way to catch her 1:10 bus. TF Bowley arrived on the scene of Tippit's
murder a few minutes later and saw Tippit's body lying in the street.
He noticed his watch read 1:10, which was corroborated by the fact
that school had just been dismissed and he had picked up his
daughter.
Only a gullible fool would continue to support the lies of the Warren
Commission that Tippit had been shot at 1:15 when faced with
overwhelming evidence from the witnesses, like Markham, Bowley,
Benavides, Davenport , and Barden.....
<http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif>
It's very clear that the document has been altered. The report
clearly shows that the time of 1:00pm has been typed over to make it
read 1:15.
Justice of the Peace Joe B. Brown Jr gives time of death as 1:15 pm
in his Authorizing Permit for autopsy at 3:00 pm. Most likely he got
the time from Dr Liquori at Methodist hospital and not the
officer's.
You didn't admit you lied.... I've caught you in lies before, but
this one is special. It so obvious that there is no time of 1:19
that has been typed over, that even a blind man could see it. Those
two cops simply were "out of the loop", and just doin their jobs when
they typed up their report of what they'd witnessed when they followed
the
ambulance carrying Tippit's body to Methodist hospital.
Walt
I'm sure you can cite a specific case.... Let's hear it.
Another coward.- Hide quoted text -
Walt
Absolutely... the conspiracy altered the document. Who else would
have ??? If it hadn't been essential to make it appear that Tippit
had been shot sometime after 1:10 nobody would have cared or bothered
to alter documents.
But when it be came clear that Lee Oswald could not have been at his
rooming house at about 1:04 ( witnessed by Mrs.Roberts) and a mile
away at the Tippit murder scene at 1:06 ( Helen Markham's testimony)
The liars of LBJ's Cover up committee were forced to alter documents
like the report of Davenport and Barden. You Dud , tried to improve
on their lie by saying the time of death written in their report was
1:19.
Davenport and Barden obviously didn't know what time Tippit was shot
and killed on the day of the murder, and they probably didn't think it
was very important at the time they wrote that report before going
home that day.
They knew they had followed the ambulance to the hospital and helped
carry Tippit inside. After sticking around to see if there was
anything they could do, and watching the Drs and Rns work on Tippit,
they left the hospital, when they learned that there wasn't anything
more they could do there.
Later that afternoon, when they typed up their report they knew that
Tippit was dead when they unloaded him from the ambulance, and they
knew he had been shot sometime prior to 1:15, so they entered the
time as 1:00 pm. which under normal circumstances would have been good
enough for their report. However when their report came to light for
the cover up committee they realized that D &B's statement in their
report needed to be altered, because Oswald was at his rooming house
at 1:00pm and therefore could not possibly have shot Tippit.
You agree the numbers typed over were both zeros, right? Was Tippit
alive at 1 o`clock?
Yes, the numbers typed over are both zeros ......and I believe Tippits
was still driving his squad car at 1:00pm so he probably was still
alive. He was shot and killed when he stopped and got out of the car
a few minutes later, at about 1:06 ( H. Markham affidavit ) When D&B
wrote their report they knew he'd been shot before 1:15, so they
simply entered the time as 1:00pm. I'd agree that they may have erred
a few minutes in their estimate of 1:00pm, but not by far. If they
had talked to Helen Markham, before writing their report, they could
have entered the EXACT time.
aeffects
> On Mar 3, 10:19 am, much...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 3 Mar., 15:37, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
> > > NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
> > > your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>
> > > Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>
> > > http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
>
> > > The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
> > > There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
> > > report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
> > > ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
> > > Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
> > > revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
> > > pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>
> > > Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>
> > > Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
> > > tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
> > > and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>
> > tendency to resize graphics - an icon to expand to regular size
> > appears when the mouse is moved over the picture - before you accused
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
why switch to another alias, in the same thread, within 18 minutes,
SCAB? Kinda dishonest isn't it?
aeffects
> On 3 Mar., 15:37, Walt <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bud has posted one of the most outrageous lies I've ever seen in this
> > NG......and I've seen many outrageous lies. ( Yes, he even topped
> > your lies, Von Pea Pea Brain)
>
> > Here is a link to a report filed by DPD Officer's Davenport and
> > Bardin. ( hope the link works)
>
> > http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif
>
> > The Warren Commision said that Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm.
> > There is evidence that this is not correct. According to their
> > report DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the
> > ambulance to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr.
> > Richard Liquori pronounced Tip dead at 1:15 pm after trying to
> > revive him. ( The time on their report was originally typed in as 1:00
> > pm, but the type over reads 1:15)
>
> > Here's Bud's unabashed lie........
>
> > Quote.... " That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the
> > tens and ones columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column,
> > and a "6" and a "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19."
>
> Walt? Did you take into consideration that Internet Explorer has a
> tendency to resize graphics - an icon to expand to regular size
> appears when the mouse is moved over the picture - before you accused
> Bud of lying?
bud admitted his error, moron...... by-the-way dipstick your above is
a load of shit.....
Walt
by-the-way dipstick your above is a load of shit.....-
WHAT!??... You didn't like hearing the truth? I guess I shouldn't be
surprised, many folks enjoy living in Fantasy Land.
Just look at the ratings for drivel like "Dancing With The
Stars".....
Bud
Why, will explaining it to you one more time help you in some way
the first two didn`t?
> Walt wrote:
> According to the WC Tippit was shot at 1:15 pm. There is evidence
> that this is not correct.
> DPD officers R.A. Davenport and W.R. Barden followed the ambulance
> to Methodist Hospital and stated in their report that Dr. Richard
> Liquori pronounced Tippit dead at 1:15 pm after trying to revive
> him.
>
> Dud wrote:
> That isn`t the time given. There is an over-type in the tens and ones
> columns. There is a "0" and a "1" in the tens column, and a "6" and a
> "9" in the ones column. It could be 1:19.
>
> We both know that if Tippit's body was at Methodist hospital at 1:15,
What we both know is that you can`t establish that. What we do know
is the only established times are the ones from the police dispatcher,
which have no calls coming in from the scene of the crime until 1:16.
> he had to have been shot at least ten minutes prior to his arrival at
> Methodist. Which means he was shot a few minutes after 1:00pm. This
> corresponds with the witnesses who's affidavit's gave the time that
> they witnessed events surrounding Tippit's death. Helen Markham said
> in her affidavit that she saw Tippit shot at 1:06 as she was on her
> way to catch her 1:10 bus.
1:15 bus, idiot. But at what time did bus that Markham usually
board a bus at that bus stop?
Another consideration is that Marham didn`t have to be at work
until 2:30, and she worked a little more than a mile away. She had no
reason to be scupulous about time, seems she could take a bus at 1:45
or later and still make it to work without being late.
> TF Bowley arrived on the scene of Tippit's
> murder a few minutes later and saw Tippit's body lying in the street.
> He noticed his watch read 1:10,
Why is his glance at his watch more reliable than all the people
who looked at, and IDied Oz?
> which was corroborated by the fact
> that school had just been dismissed and he had picked up his
> daughter.
Exactlly what time did he pick up his daughter? How far away was
her school? How fast did he drive? You need to establish these things
before you can claim corroboration, and you don`t have them (other
than how far to his daughters school, which I googled the distance to
last time we had this discussion), so why pretend you do?
> Only a gullible fool would continue to support the lies of the Warren
> Commission that Tippit had been shot at 1:15 when faced with
> overwhelming evidence from the witnesses, like Markham,
Who said she saw Oz shoot Tippit.
> Bowley,
Was not at the scene when the shooting occurred.
> Benavides,
Gave what time for the shooting?
> Davenport , and Barden.....
Neither of who was there for the shooting.
> <http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/00/0083-001.gif>
>
> It's very clear that the document has been altered.
Which further illustrates your stupidity. Why not type up a new one?
Why leave the old time visible for idiots such as yourself to make hay
over?
> The report
> clearly shows that the time of 1:00pm has been typed over to make it
> read 1:15.
What method did you use to determine which number was typed over
which?
And this is a secondary source, where is the primary source, the
report of the doctor who pronounced him dead?
> Justice of the Peace Joe B. Brown Jr gives time of death as 1:15 pm
Was he with Tippit when he died?
> in his Authorizing Permit for autopsy at 3:00 pm. Most likely he got
> the time from Dr Liquori at Methodist hospital and not the
> officer's.
Most likely they weren`t scrupulous about the time because it
wasn`t important.
> You didn't admit you lied....
Because I didn`t. I will be glad to admit you are an idiot, though.
> I've caught you in lies before, but
> this one is special. It so obvious that there is no time of 1:19
> that has been typed over, that even a blind man could see it. Those
> two cops simply were "out of the loop", and just doin their jobs when
> they typed up their report of what they'd witnessed when they followed
> the
> ambulance carrying Tippit's body to Methodist hospital.
Yah, everybody was out to get your precious patsy.
Bud
Bud
Mark, being a reasonable person approachs unknowns by considering
what is reasonable to believe. Since it was unreasonable to believe I
had lied, he went about looking for alternative, reasonable
explainations. He started on the right foot, the kooks started and
ended on the wrong one, they decided what the answer must be, and that
was that. Again, why would I misrepresent information that had a link
provided to it for anyone to click on it and see for themselves (and
more importantly, why didn`t the kooks consider this before jumping to
conclusions)? It would be like me saying you just admitted to being a
junkie above, when your words above contain no such admission
(although we both know it`s true).
muc...@gmail.com
Walt accused Bud of lying. How does that make me a moron?
> by-the-way dipstick your above is a load of shit.....
I neglected to mention that IE's automatic image resizing can be
turned on or off by adjusting a browser setting.
Walt
What a dumb question.... You lied because yer a fool and thought you
could get away with the lie.
(and
> more importantly, why didn`t the kooks consider this before jumping to
> conclusions)? It would be like me saying you just admitted to being a
> junkie above, when your words above contain no such admission
> (although we both know it`s true).- Hide quoted text -
Walt
You're a moron....cuz yer a moron. Why is Hilliary a socialist?.....
Cuz she's a socialist.
>
> > by-the-way dipstick your above is a load of shit.....
>
> I neglected to mention that IE's automatic image resizing can be
> turned on or off by adjusting a browser setting.- Hide quoted text -
Neil Coburn
the hospital to determine the time required? Neil
Walt
> Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> the hospital to determine the time required? Neil
Good question ..... If I recall correctly, I remember reading the
Methodist hospital was only a few bocks from the scene of Tippit's
murder. ( possibly on Colorado blvd??) I'm sure there must be a
lurker from Dallas who can tell us where Methodist hospital was.
Bud
<snicker> Thats that same linear, one-dimensional thinking that
keeps leading you down dead-end alleys.
Bud
Walt wrote:
> On 5 Mar, 08:39, daytonac...@webtv.net (Neil Coburn) wrote:
> > Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> > the hospital to determine the time required? � � � � Neil
>
> Good question ..... If I recall correctly, I remember reading the
> Methodist hospital was only a few bocks from the scene of Tippit's
> murder.
Wherever it is, you allowed ten minutes to get there.
Walt
> the hospital to determine the time required? Neil
Neil, I think it was DPD detective Gerald Hill who said in his
testimony that they met the ambulance that was carrying Tippit to
Methodist hospital. He may have said in his testimony that the
hospital was on Colorado blvd, or they met the ambulance on Colorado
blvd.... I'll have to check his testimony. At anyrate I'm pretty sure
that the hospital was only a few blocks away from 10th & Patton.
Bud
Ruby cost her a vote.
Walt
> Walt wrote:
> > On 5 Mar, 08:39, daytonac...@webtv.net (Neil Coburn) wrote:
> > > Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> > > the hospital to determine the time required? � � � � Neil
>
> > Good question ..... If I recall correctly, I remember reading the
> > Methodist hospital was only a few bocks from the scene of Tippit's
> > murder.
>
> Wherever it is, you allowed ten minutes to get there.
Wrong.... What I said was:... Officer's Davenpot and Barden knew they
had helped carry a dead man ( Tippit) into the hospital. The deduced
that since he was dead at the time he arrived at the Hospital that he
had been shot at least 10 minutes prior to the time he arrived at the
hospital. There is no claim that they knew the actual time of the
shooting. It appears that since they knew what time they were at the
hospital, and they knew the location where Tippit had been shot, they
merely guessed that he'd been shot at about 1:00.
>
>
>
> > ( possibly on Colorado blvd??) I'm sure there must be a
> > lurker from Dallas who can tell us where Methodist hospital was.- Hide quoted text -
Walt
> > On 5 Mar, 08:39, daytonac...@webtv.net (Neil Coburn) wrote:
> > > Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> > > the hospital to determine the time required? � � � � Neil
>
> > Good question ..... If I recall correctly, I remember reading the
> > Methodist hospital was only a few bocks from the scene of Tippit's
> > murder.
>
> Wherever it is, you allowed ten minutes to get there.
Hey Dud.... My memory ain't as good as it once was...but my mind is
still far superior to yours.
Here's a little verification for the time of the Tippit
shooting ......Excerpts from testimonies before the W.C.
Lt Day Arrived at the TSBD at 1:12 and Sct Geral Hill met him near the
front door
Mr. Day.
I was in the identification bureau at the city hall. About a quarter
of one I was in the basement of the city hall, which is three floors
under me actually I am on the fourth floor--and a rumor swept through
there that the President had been shot.
I returned to my office to get on the radio and wait for the
developments. Shortly before 1 o'clock I received a call from the
police dispatcher to go to 411 Elm Street, Dallas.
Mr. Belin.
Is there any particular building at that particular location?
Mr. Day.
The Texas School Book Depository, I believe is the correct name on
it.
Mr. Belin.
Did you go there?
Mr. Day.
Yes, sir; I went out of my office almost straight up 1 o'clock. I
arrived at the location on Elm about 1:12.
Mr. Belin.
What did you do when you got there?
Mr. Day.
I was directed to the sixth floor by the police inspector who was at
the front door when I arrived.
Just about the time Hill met Day at the front door of the TSBD at
1:12, he heard a citizen talking on a ploice radio on a motorcycle
that was parked near the curb in front of the TSBD. The citizen said
there had been a police officer shot and he thought the officer was
dead.
Mr. Hill.
I asked the deputies again to guard the scene and I would go down and
make sure that the crime lab was en route.
When I got toward the back, at this time I heard the freight elevator
moving, and I went back to the back of the building to either catch
the freight elevator or the stairs, and Captain Fritz and his men were
coming up on the elevator.
I told him what we found and pointed out the general area, pointed out
the deputies to them, and told him also that I was going to make sure
the crime lab was en route.
About the time I got to the street, Lieutenant Day from the crime lab
was arriving and walking up toward the front door. ( Note: Day
testified that the time was 1:12 )
Mr. Hill.
We were standing there with Inspector Sawyer and Assistant District
Attorney Bill Alexander came up to us, and we had been standing there
for a minute when we heard the strange voice on the police radio that
said something to the effect that, if I remember right, either the
first call that came out said that they were in the 400 block of East
Jefferson, and that an officer had been shot, and the voice on the
radio, whoever it was, said he thought he was dead. ( Note that Hill
says the citizen on the radio thought that the officer was dead)
In the process of getting the location straight, and I think it was at
this point I was probably using 19 call number, because I was riding
with him, we got the information correctly that the shooting had
actually been on East 10th, and we were en route there.
We crossed the Commerce Street viaduct and turned, made a right turn
to go under the viaduct on North Beckley to go up to 10th Street. As
we passed, just before we got to Colorado on Beckley, an ambulance
with a police car behind it passed us en route to Methodist Hospital.
It was probably about 1:17 or 1:18 when Hill met the ambulance .....
Ted Callaway was the last citizen to use Tippit's radio, Dom
Benavides used it first to report the shooting probably about 1:09 or
1:10. He didn't give many details, he simply said that a policeman
had been shot and gave the address. Benavides turned the radio over
to TF Bowley who basically repeated what Benavides had reported but
giving the a different house number than Benavides gave. Neither of
them said that the officer was dead... However Ted Callaaway DID say
that he thought that the OFFICER WAS DEAD. This is the transmission
that Sgt Gerald Hill heard at about 1:13 or 1:14.
Mr. Callaway.
I saw a squad car, and by that time there was four or five people that
had gathered, a couple of cars had stopped. Then I saw--I went on up
to the squad car and saw the police officer lying in the street. I see
he had been shot in the head. So the first thing I did, I ran over to
the squad car. I didn't know whether anybody reported it or not. So I
got on the police radio and called them, and told them a man had been
shot, told them the location, I thought the officer was dead. They
said we know about it, stay off the air, so I went back.
By this time an ambulance was coming.
Notice that Callaway said he told the dispatcher that he thought the
officer was dead...And he said the dispatcher told him they already
knew about it "stay off the air". He said the ambulance was arriving
at that time...
So here's the timeline for events
1:06 --- Markham sees Tippit shot
1:09 --- Benavides uses Tippit's police radio to report the shooting
1:10 --- T F Bowley uses Tippit's police radio to report shooting
1: 12--- Lt Day arrives at the DPD and Hill meets him near the front
door
1:14 --- Ted Callaway uses Tippit's police radio to report the
shooting and says the officer is dead.
1:14 --- Sgt Gerald Hill hears Ted Callaway's radio transmission and
decides to go to the scene of the shooting
1:15 --- Ambulance arrives and picks up Tippit for transport to
Methodist Hospital
1: 18 -- Sgt Hill meets ambulance transporting Tippit to Methodist
Hospital with Officer's Davenport and Barden following the ambulance.
Ok Dud ... Let's hear some more of your lies.... (I love ta see ya
make an ass outta yerself)
>
>
>
> > ( possibly on Colorado blvd??) I'm sure there must be a
> > lurker from Dallas who can tell us where Methodist hospital was.- Hide quoted text -
Bud
Walt wrote:
> On 5 Mar, 13:24, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
> > Walt wrote:
> > > On 5 Mar, 08:39, daytonac...@webtv.net (Neil Coburn) wrote:
> > > > Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> > > > the hospital to determine the time required? � � � � Neil
> >
> > > Good question ..... If I recall correctly, I remember reading the
> > > Methodist hospital was only a few bocks from the scene of Tippit's
> > > murder.
> >
> > Wherever it is, you allowed ten minutes to get there.
>
> Wrong.... What I said was:...
"We both know that if Tippit`s body was at Methosdist hospital at
1:15, he had to be shot at least 10 minutes prior to his arrival at
Methodist."
? Officer's Davenpot and Barden knew they
Bud
The only established times are those supplied by the DPD dispatchers
(No call recieved about this crime before 1:16, so all the times you
are assigning are meaningless). Why don`t I see you using any of
those? Or mention any of the witnesses who saw the guy with the gun
they identified as Oswald. Oh, thats right, you aren`t really trying
to determine what really happened, you are only engaged in some
reality-denial game.
David Von Pein
>>> "Hey Dud.... My memory ain't as good as it once was...but my mind is still far superior to yours." <<<
The above words coming from a person who also said these things the
very same day (classic):
"That Carcano and the spent shells were nothing but "stage
props"." -- WALT-KOOK; 03/05/08
"The fatal shot wasn't fired from the sixth floor." -- WALT
(MEGA)-KOOK; 03/05/08
"What you call a "sniper's nest" wasn't a sniper's nest at all.
It was a hidden Smoker's Nook that was built by a goldbrickin
employee, so he could hide from the boss and goof off and smoke." --
WALT (SUPER)-KOOK; 03/05/08
==========
Hey Walt, please tell us again about how the Croft photo below proves
that JFK was shot from the front. Please! Please! I want to hear that
fairy tale again. Please!
If you tell it again for the one monthly "lurker", I'll promise to buy
your new book, entitled "EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE
JFK CASE, BUT NEVER KNEW (BECAUSE NONE OF THE THINGS IN THIS BOOK EVER
HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE)".
Please! .....
www.jfklancer.com/photos/DPlaza/croft.gif
("Smoker's Nook" always has me running for the bathroom every time
Walt The Kook utters those two words. My weak bladder, you see.)
Walt
Yes, I see..... Apparently you aren't always sucessful at makin it to
the bathroon in time....
David Von Pein
>>> "Apparently you aren't always sucessful [sic] at makin [sic] it to the bathroon [sic; THE KOOK MEANS "BATHROOM" HERE] in time." <<<
Especially after reading one of your forum posts, that's for sure.
Now....what about this Croft picture, Walt? Please!:
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/DPlaza/croft.gif
(You're not embarrassed when it comes to your "JFK WAS SHOT FROM THE
FRONT AND WE CAN SEE THE PROOF IN THE ROBERT CROFT PHOTO" theory, are
you Walter? Surely not.)
Walt
Embarrassed....Like you should be for wetting yer pants?... Naw, I'm
proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being
blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the
throat. However I'm not the first to see that evidence of the bullet
exiting JFK's back. The FBI knew about it way back in Novenber of
1963, that's why they kept it hidden from the public for twenty years.
You, being the stupid asshole you are think that the Croft photo
corresponds to some particulat frame of the so called Z film.
Altgen's photo of Chaney on his motorcycle alongside the Lincoln shows
quite graphically that the Z film is a fraud....
David Von Pein
>>> "I'm proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the throat." <<<
Even though the color version of the photo shows no such thing, right
Walt?
This color version must be fake, huh?:
>>> "However{,} I'm not the first to see that evidence of the bullet exiting JFK's back." <<<
Yes, I got a feeling you are. (Seeing as how you are the evidence-
mangling kook that you are.)
>>> "The FBI knew about it way back in Novenber [sic] of 1963, that's why they kept it hidden from the public for twenty years." <<<
But then, after 20 years, the evil FBI (which still existed in 1983 of
course) decided they just didn't give a damn about that conspiracy-
proving photo being made public. Is that it, Mister K-word?
>>> "You, being the stupid asshole you are{,} think that the Croft photo corresponds to some particulat [sic] frame of the so called Z film." <<<
It does, of course. Z161.
Only fruitcakes like Cakebread think it doesn't correspond to a frame
of the Z-Film.
Continue, Mega-Kook.....
>>> "Altgen's [sic] photo of Chaney on his motorcycle alongside the Lincoln shows quite graphically that the Z film is a fraud." <<<
<bladder beginning to swell--yet again>
Thanks, Mr. Kook. That's just the kind of junk I wanted to hear
repeated by the moron known as Walter Bundt-loaf.
Now, if you'll excuse me....my bladder is calling (again)....big-time!
Walt
> >>> "I'm proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the throat." <<<
>
> Even though the color version of the photo shows no such thing, right
> Walt?
>
> This color version must be fake, huh?:
>
>
> >>> "However{,} I'm not the first to see that evidence of the bullet exiting JFK's back." <<<
>
> Yes, I got a feeling you are. (Seeing as how you are the evidence-
> mangling kook that you are.)
>
> >>> "The FBI knew about it way back in Novenber [sic] of 1963, that's why they kept it hidden from the public for twenty years." <<<
>
> But then, after 20 years, the evil FBI (which still existed in 1983 of
> course) decided they just didn't give a damn about that conspiracy-
> proving photo being made public. Is that it, Mister K-word?
>
> >>> "You, being the stupid asshole you are{,} think that the Croft photo corresponds to some particulat [sic] frame of the so called Z film." <<<
>
> It does, of course. Z161.
>
> Only fruitcakes like Cakebread think it doesn't correspond to a frame
> of the Z-Film.
>
> Continue, Mega-Kook.....
>
> >>> "Altgen's [sic] photo of Chaney on his motorcycle alongside the Lincoln shows quite graphically that the Z film is a fraud." <<<
>
> <bladder beginning to swell--yet again>
>
> Thanks, Mr. Kook. That's just the kind of junk I wanted to hear
> repeated by the moron known as Walter Bundt-loaf.
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me....my bladder is calling (again)....big-time!
Why bother....You've already soiled yer britches. Aren't weak
bladders and weak minds a common malady for Lner's??
Walt
> >>> "I'm proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the throat." <<<
>
> Even though the color version of the photo shows no such thing, right
> Walt?
>
This color version must be fake, huh?:
Fake?? No ...but it has been tampered with.... Unless JFK had a
diesel engine in his head that was emmitting a cloud of black smoke.
I'm sure you won't be able to see that "black cloud" just above and to
the rear of JFK's head, but others will. Thanks for posting the nice
clear colored image.
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassi...
Walt
> >>> "I'm proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the throat." <<<
My my... I've sure got yer balls in a bind, don't I ??.... What is
it that's got you jumpin up and down and acting like a babbling,
drooling, idiot?? Oh I'll bet I know......Is THIS what's got yer
balls in a bind??
1:06 --- Markham sees Tippit shot
1:09 --- Benavides uses Tippit's police radio to report the shooting
1:10 --- T F Bowley uses Tippit's police radio to report shooting
1: 12--- Lt Day arrives at the DPD and Hill meets him near the front
door
1:14 --- Ted Callaway uses Tippit's police radio to report the
shooting and says the officer is dead.
1:14 --- Sgt Gerald Hill hears Ted Callaway's radio transmission and
decides to go to the scene of the shooting
1:15 --- Ambulance arrives and picks up Tippit for transport to
Methodist Hospital
1: 18 -- Sgt Hill meets ambulance transporting Tippit to Methodist
Hospital with Officer's Davenport and Barden following the ambulance.
>
> Even though the color version of the photo shows no such thing, right
> Walt?
>
> This color version must be fake, huh?:
>
> http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassi...
aeffects
ROFLMFAO
Walt
> On 5 Mar, 20:38, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:> >>> "I'm proud that I spotted that little white piece of JFK's shirt being blown out through his back, by the bullet that struck him in the throat." <<<
>
> > Even though the color version of the photo shows no such thing, right
> > Walt?
>
This color version must be fake, huh?:
Fake?? No ...but it has been tampered with.... Unless JFK had a
diesel engine in his head that was emmitting a cloud of black smoke.
I'm sure you won't be able to see that "black cloud" just above and
to
the rear of JFK's head, but others will. Thanks for posting the nice
clear colored image.
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK
%20Assassi...
Hey Von Pea Brain....Who tampered with the Croft Photo??... What do
you think they were covering up?
Do you think there could have been a bullet track in the photo that
would have showed an angle of travel that didn't fir with the Warren
Commission's tale??
>
>
>
>
>
> > >>> "However{,} I'm not the first to see that evidence of the bullet exiting JFK's back." <<<
>
> > Yes, I got a feeling you are. (Seeing as how you are the evidence-
> > mangling kook that you are.)
>
> > >>> "The FBI knew about it way back in Novenber [sic] of 1963, that's why they kept it hidden from the public for twenty years." <<<
>
> > But then, after 20 years, the evil FBI (which still existed in 1983 of
> > course) decided they just didn't give a damn about that conspiracy-
> > proving photo being made public. Is that it, Mister K-word?
>
> > >>> "You, being the stupid asshole you are{,} think that the Croft photo corresponds to some particulat [sic] frame of the so called Z film." <<<
>
> > It does, of course. Z161.
>
> > Only fruitcakes like Cakebread think it doesn't correspond to a frame
> > of the Z-Film.
>
> > Continue, Mega-Kook.....
>
> > >>> "Altgen's [sic] photo of Chaney on his motorcycle alongside the Lincoln shows quite graphically that the Z film is a fraud." <<<
>
> > <bladder beginning to swell--yet again>
>
> > Thanks, Mr. Kook. That's just the kind of junk I wanted to hear
> > repeated by the moron known as Walter Bundt-loaf.
>
> > Now, if you'll excuse me....my bladder is calling (again)....big-time!- Hide quoted text -
David Von Pein
>>> "Who tampered with the Croft Photo?" <<<
Oh goodie! Now the Croft photo is fake too!
What's not to love about a kook who thinks EVERY single thing in the
JFK world is faked?
Walt will soon start to theorize that Dealey Plaza (in its entirety)
was "faked" by plotters, and the Plaza really only exists on a
Hollywood stage someplace. And the people who visit DP in Dallas are
really only fantasizing about their DP experiences.
Next...on the Walt-Kook Channel!
robcap...@netscape.com
"Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
the hospital to determine the time required?" Neil
An ambulance from Dudley Hughes Funeral Home got there in record time
as it allegedly arrived at 1:18 p.m. and took Tippit's body to
Parkland Hospital. His body has been loaded into the ambulance by the
time the police arrive at the crime scene, does anyone else think this
is odd? Isn't it standard procedure to view the body at the crime
scene? I am not sure of the time to get to Parkland from Oak Cliff.
David Von Pein
>>> "He {Mr. Von Pein} wanted to know how JFK could have continued to hold his hand up for 1.47 seconds after being stunned by the tiny bullet striking him." <<<
Of course that's not what I said. Walt, here again, seems to think
that
JFK would have BEGUN a new wave after having a high-velocity bullet go
clean through his body.
>>> "The bullet that hit JFK in the throat was a "T-I-N-Y" high velocity, projectile. It didn't have the impact energy of a larger and heavier bullet...." <<<
LOL! As asked previously, why didn't the assassins just simply use
water pistols or a slingshot? Those things probably would have been
just as effective.
And the above unprovable CT dung re. "tiny" little bullets impacting
JFK's body is instance #3,446 of ---- "A CT-Kook who thinks he can
make
shit up out of thin air and expect to get away with it, even though
there's not a SCRAP of evidence to back up the kookshit being spewed
forth by said kook".
Must be nice being a kook, huh? You don't have to follow ANY actual
evidence that's on the table or in the record -- you, instead, can
just
pick feces out of your CT ass/file and use THOSE theories instead.
Done
deal!
And the most amazing part of all -- You'll actually get people to slap
you on the back and say "Good going, never thought of that before!
Nice
job!" for making up kookshit like the CT-Kooks do time and time again.
But just remember, though (if you reside in the "Kook
Korner")....never
(EVER) mention that Lee H. Oswald could have been a shooter on
11/22/63
(either on Elm or on Tenth Street). Postulating that LHO fired any
shots from any gun on 11/22 is a surefire way to have your CT-Kook
privileges revoked for life.
Also:
Via "Kook Rule 18A; Sub-Section B1" ---- Even if you, yourself (as a
CT-Kook), KNOW that a certain theory you've seen espoused by some
other
CT-Kook in the past is not worth a plug nickel....it's still a good
idea to embrace said theory as "the truth" (despite the fact that you
know it can be torn to shreds from several different angles). A
current
case in point being: Walt-Kook's "Z161/White Speck/Kennedy Started
Another Wave After Being Blasted By A High-Velocity Bullet" hunk of
total hilarity.
Even though Walt has got to KNOW that that theory is full of more
holes
than a Swiss Cheese factory -- he'll continue to sponsor it for all
its
worth. And no amount of CS&L which proves he's wrong will be able to
change his mind re. said Pet Theory.
Someone ought to write a book called "The Kook Book", which
demonstrates the lengths that some conspiracists are willing to go to
in order to plant themselves in the middle of Kookville re. the JFK
assassination.*
* = But, then, too, what with Mr. J.H. Fetzer's Z-Film Hoax book on
the
market, Fetzer himself has pretty much published that Kook Book
already. He just doesn't realize it evidently.
Walt
wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:39 am, daytonac...@webtv.net (Neil Coburn) wrote:
>
> "Has anyone retraced the route to pick up Tippit's body,and take it to
> the hospital to determine the time required?" Neil
>
An ambulance from Dudley Hughes Funeral Home got there in record time
as it allegedly arrived at 1:18 p.m.
The ambulance arrived and picked up Tippit @ 1:15 / 1:16..... Sgt
Gerald Hill met the ambulance on Colorado blvd that was carrying
Tippit to METHODIST hospital. Hill left the TSBD at about 1:14 /
1:15. Traveling with red lights flashing and siren on it would have
taken him about 2 or 3 minutes to cross the Trinty river to be in the
location where he met the ambulance. Hill met the ambulance at about
1:17 or 1:18.......
and took Tippit's body to Parkland Hospital.
No.... Tippit didn't go to Parkland. He was taken to Methodist and
was DOA.
His body has been loaded into the ambulance by the
time the police arrive at the crime scene, does anyone else think
this
is odd?
Tippit was not pronounced dead by the coroner... The ambulance
attendents treated him as if he was still alive and rushed him to the
nearest hospital.
Walt
> >>> "Who tampered with the Croft Photo?" <<<
>
> Oh goodie! Now the Croft photo is fake too!
Duh... Why the hell don;t you learn to read?... Or at least have
someone read to you....
I very clearlywrote that the Croft photo is NOT a fake.... HOWEVER IT
HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH.
Anybody with one good eye can see that a black felt tipped pen has
been used to black out an area above and to the rear of JFK's head.
Thanks to your posting of this link to the colored photo in this
thread, on March 5 @ 20:38
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/JFK%20Assassi...
David Von Pein
>>> "I very clearly wrote that the Croft photo is NOT a fake....HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH." <<<
<chuckles>
OIC. It's not a "fake" image, it's only "been tampered with".
The kook has decided to kill me with semantics today. Nice.
>>> "Anybody with one good eye can see that a black felt tipped pen has been used to black out an area above and to the rear of JFK's head. Thanks to your posting of this link to the colored photo..." <<<
<another chuckle>
The kook can't even manage to link a photo without screwing it up. So
I'll do it for the kook. Here's the full-color Croft picture:
Walt thinks that some idiot plotter took a "felt-tipped pen" and
created a big ol' black splotch on the Croft photo behind JFK's head.
The next question, of course, to ask the kook (other than the
proverbial one, "Can you prove it?") is: Why?
What does Walt think the "non-altered" Croft picture is showing in the
blotched-out area? It certainly can't be anything relating to the
fatal head shot. It's still quite a few seconds until the head shot
occurs.
Does Walt think that the "blotch" is hiding a BULLET IN MID-FLIGHT (or
something equally as impossible)?
Or:
Maybe the idiot photo-fakers just wanted to deliberately mark up and
"tamper" with one of the 11/22 photos IN THE MOST CRUDE AND OBVIOUSLY-
DETECTABLE WAY IMAGINABLE (by using a "felt-tipped pen" on the
image)...just for the fun of it. Eh, Walt-Kook?
Oh, btw, the black "splotch" is, of course, also FULLY VISIBLE in the
B&W version of the photograph as well...as anyone can easily see in
the photo below. And the pic below is the B&W version that Walt
insists shows PROOF OF CONSPIRACY and shows the piece of shirt flying
off JFK's back.
It's kind of odd, isn't it, that the stupid photo-fakers decided to
"tamper" with the picture by drawing in some kind of "black blotch"
with a pen, but they decided to LEAVE IN the "piece of shirt" on the
B&W version that Walt touts as proof that JFK was being shot from the
front at this instant?:
www.jfklancer.com/photos/DPlaza/croft.gif
This kind of reminds me of the "Z-Film Fakery" theory -- i.e., the
fakers/alterers decide to go to great, elaborate lengths to alter the
film in a variety of ways (most of them being totally meaningless and
useless when it comes to determining where the shots came from, of
course, per the CT-Kooks)....but then these same film-fakers decided
to LEAVE IN the rear head snap of JFK's head just after the fatal
shot.
Go try to figure out the mindset of those film-faking idiots. (I sure
can't.)
In reality, of course, the "black splotch" seen in the Robert Croft
photograph looks to me to be the merging together of a combination of
dark things visible within the photo, including the dark dress being
worn by the woman on the right side of the dark "blotch", plus the
dark handbag of the woman who is on the left side of the "blotch" (or
some other type of dark package that she seems to be holding by her
left arm, probably on a strap over her left shoulder).
Also:
If you look at other portions of the photo, you can see MANY other
"dark splotches" in the picture, including a similar "blotch" of
blackness directly above John Connally's head (under the left hand of
the waving woman in the blue dress).
Is the dark blotch above Connally's head also a blotch that's been
colored-in with a felt-tipped pen, Mr. Walt-Kook?
Just curious.
Final Analysis......
Walt, as always, sees something "conspiratorial" and/or "shady" in
virtually EVERYTHING connected with the record of the JFK
assassination.
And, as always, he can never prove a single one of the moronic things
he believes and theorizes in his patented idiotic, kneejerk style.
And, as always, Walt makes a total fool out of himself in front of the
Internet audience.
IOW -- Just another day at the "CT" office for a kook named Walter
Cakebread.
Walt
> >>> "I very clearly wrote that the Croft photo is NOT a fake....HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH." <<<
>
> <chuckles>
>
> OIC. It's not a "fake" image, it's only "been tampered with".
>
> The kook has decided to kill me with semantics today. Nice.
>
> >>> "Anybody with one good eye can see that a black felt tipped pen has been used to black out an area above and to the rear of JFK's head. Thanks to your posting of this link to the colored photo..." <<<
>
> <another chuckle>
>
> The kook can't even manage to link a photo without screwing it up. So
> I'll do it for the kook. Here's the full-color Croft picture:
>
So you acknowledge that there is a "black blotch" on the photo.....
Thank you... Carry on with your attempt to say the photo hasn't been
tampered with.
aeffects
> >>> "I very clearly wrote that the Croft photo is NOT a fake....HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH." <<<
>
> <chuckles>
>
> OIC. It's not a "fake" image, it's only "been tampered with".
>
> The kook has decided to kill me with semantics today. Nice.
>
> >>> "Anybody with one good eye can see that a black felt tipped pen has been used to black out an area above and to the rear of JFK's head. Thanks to your posting of this link to the colored photo..." <<<
>
> <another chuckle>
>
> The kook can't even manage to link a photo without screwing it up. So
> I'll do it for the kook. Here's the full-color Croft picture:
>
take it from me, Tim doesn't like that kind of language
David Von Pein
Why did God put conspiracy kooks on this Earth?
Did He simply run out of room for them in Rod Serling's "Twilight
Zone"? Is that why we here on this planet are stuck with them?
~big ol' shrug~