Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Ward Cleaver
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
>==========================
>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>number (416-785-4574)
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/reverse-phone/?source=GO000009&KW=canadian_reverse_lookup
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/ReversePhone?state_id=ON&phone=416-785-4574&survey_session=1
For more info:
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/Replay?search_id=30121360895412420694&lower=1&more_info=1
The above reverse searches confirm the telephone number is Shiff's as well as
the address below as being his!
>owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA.
>Friends assisted Hall in some Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer
>of the Kaspu Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
>Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting threats from,
>and two of my other writers."
If you file charges I have more proof of Shiff's criminal antics!
>===========================
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
>Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
>
>Privacy by Todd Brendan Fahey
>February 13, 2006
>
>James Hall publishes as "SARTRE" throughout the Web. Perhaps the most
>prolific right-wing columnist on the 'net, he keeps to himself in
>private life. Long retired as a political strategist, Hall is no
>longer a believer in organized politics--though very much still a
>believer in and spokesman for Jeffersonian anti-federalist, limited
>government ideology.
>
>And so he was surprised to answer his unlisted phone number on January
>30th, to the question that was asked three times in succession: "Is
>this SARTRE?" (His response each time: "Who is calling?"). Finally,
>the caller shouted, "We know who you are!", followed by a death threat
>that he has divulged only to the New York state police department in
>his area, which he alerted immediately.
I wish you much luck seeing how it is a rich connected Jew who is doing this to
you all. Wealth + being a Jew allows a person a lot of freedom in their
harassing non-Jews!!! I have learned that bitter truth over the years since
December 14, 1999!!!! I have filed reports on people making death threat
telephone calls and them having the gall to identify themselves and leave the
death threats on my answering machine with the Caller ID doing the supplemental
logging!! What happened as a result? NOT ONE G.D. THING!! I still say if
non-Jews were to do such to Jews then you all can count on the FBI, INTERPOL
etc. being brought forth to trace the harasser with federal charges as "hate
crimes" being prosecuted. If anyone doubts such then you need to take of your
rose color glasses!! They don't seem to care if it is a Jew on non-Jew crime
which lets anyone know how lopsided the criminal justice system truly is.
>Says Hall, "No one calls for Sartre on my home phone number."
>
>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>number (416-785-4574) owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh
>Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA. Friends assisted Hall in some
>Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer of the Kaspu
>Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
>Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting
>threats from, and two of my other writers."
I will have more info on Nazihunter in a short time. I am updating my archives
at the present time. I will post the updated archives contents in this very
thread as they are made ready.
>The morning of Hall's telephone death threat, he had published an
>incendiary piece titled "Hamas, Israel and the United States,"
>[http://batr.org/gulag/013006.html], which went 'net-wide and which,
>later in the week, resulted in his being dropped from New Media
>Alliance--ostensibly, a start-up conservative news bureau. The article
>calls for a complete severing of the "USrael alliance," as a danger to
>American citizens and an affront to the Constitution.
>
>Two weeks before the threat received by James Hall, fellow Rense.com
>writer Kurt Nimmo closed down his blog entirely, citing an inability
>to reconcile death threats received, his publishing life and the
>safety of his family ("Zionist Death Threats: Nimmo Closes Down Blog,"
>http://www.rense.com/general69/goned.htm).
Kurt Nimmo did what Shiff and others wanted him to do-- shutdown! They try the
same cowardly attacks on me too!
Some nice words from Yids expressed towards yours truly:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a0e9d5359f14d283?fwvc=1
(Archived locally as: TandyIsViolentYid)
From: kni...@indystart.com (Arthur J. Tandy aka Black Knight aka Sailor57)
Subject: Re: Arthur J. Tandy aka Black Knight Wants to Engage in Homosexual Sex
Date: 14 Mar 2003 18:24:06 -0800
Message-ID: <594c8e48.03031...@posting.google.com>
References: <p1m47v0n03p0g0pgd...@4ax.com>
Tavish <t--avi-s-h4...@RemoveHyphens2MAILix.n-etc-om.com> wrote in message
news:<p1m47v0n03p0g0pgd...@4ax.com>...
> On 4 Mar 2003 21:28:08 -0800, <594c8e48.0303042128.4ffa7...@posting.google.com>
> kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
What I really want to engage in is beating your fat belly to a pulp.
Who ever bumps you off should get a medal, scum.
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
Art's fellow violent yids:
--------------------------
Yid Barton:
"Shut the fuck up, you sick NAZI bastard, before I shut it up for you!"
From: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <mnlue.132$_m1...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_1)
"Personally, I think I 4x2 upside his brainless head would be better!"
From: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <gHMue.1110$qm....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_2)
"Well, let me threaten you again! FUCK OFF YOU NAZI AMERICAN CUNT -- BEFORE I
FIND YOU AND SHOVE MY FIST DOWN YOUR FILTHY DISGUSTING JEW-HATING NAZI GOB!"
From: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <UDKue.751$gr...@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_3)
----------------------------------------
Yid Edeiken:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bcfa52fae1b480f2?fwc=1
Subject: MUST READ! Yale F. Edeiken Inciting Violence Against Me In USENET
Posts He Signed!! (From My Archives) V1.0
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:33:13 -0600
Message-ID: <3bhpt1pq1of1mbst7...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------
Yid Convert Andrew E. Mathis:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a66f7fadafc5116b?dmode=source
(Archived locally as: AEM_Mouth_11)
Brief excerpt: "Joe, do I need to explain this to you also? I invited Scott
Bradbury to meet me in a bar so that I could get him to say to my face what he
was saying to me in Usenet. There was nothing sexual in my intent. My intent was
to beat the fuck out of him if/when he opened his filthy mouth..."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YIDS TODAY!?" - Satirized quote from the soundtrack to
the movie "Bye Bye Birdie"
>Writes Nimmo:
>
>"The primary reason I have decided to stop posting the blog has to do
>with threats. I have received many of them, including death threats.
>Usually, I am able to brush aside threats, since most are not of a
>serious nature, but lately I have received several that are not to be
>taken lightly, especially considering the fact somebody has taken the
>liberty to post my address and telephone number (information easily
>attained from the domain registry) in various places on the internet.
The same was done to me except my address etc. was NOT in public domain and an
unethical shyster issued a phoney subpoena to my ISP to get my info and here are
my proofs:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?... Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
>First and foremost, I have a responsibility to my family and posting
>political commentary obviously comes in a distant second."
>
>On February 2, Rense.com writer Jim Mortellaro received calls from the
>same Toronto, Canada phone number: "Beginning three days ago, two more
>so-called 'men' began their tirade on this writer. Like the first
>person, they informed me that I was a Rense supporter and that makes
>me an anti-Semite. Me. Of all people, with a Jewish side to our family
>in which 2.15% survived the camps. That would be two out of 93 human
>beings. You picked the wrong person, guys. ...I now have his name and
>address. The man lives in Toronto. He is the son of
J. Richard Shiff of York University.
>a (I won't go there, not to worry), he is a member of a very wealthy family there,
>with interest in (major interest) in a very large corporation."
>("Zionist Threats and Harrassment Continue,"
>http://rense.com/general69/cpontn.htm)
>
>Mortellaro received the call on his cell phone, which, as he writes:
>"is extremely hard to obtain. You must have the *authority* to do so
>and that authority must be high up the food chain.
I was being harassed so much by that bastard at one time that I had my unlisted
phone number changed one afternoon to another unlisted number and the bastard
posted my new unlisted number to USENET the following morning and continued with
his harassment. My local law enforcement also traced the number to Toronto and
they said it was out of their hands!! I even have some the little bastard's
death threats recorded and I posted them to alt.binaries as: "NAZIHUNTER Death
Threat Telephone Calls"
When law enforcement refuses to prosecute a certain obnoxious minority then they
only encourage the criminals to become more brazen and which also compels the
victims to seek other avenues of "justice" to have the criminals stopped.
>So, whomever called, did so from a "restricted telephone number" and had *access*
>to cellphone numbers and their owners. A 'restricted' telephone
>number, being different from a 'restricted call,' makes the case for a
>governmental, institutional or large and powerful company as having
>made the call."
>
>Messrs. Hall, Rense, Nimmo and Mortellaro are now coordinating
>efforts--with state police, FBI and Canadian authorities--for to bring
>about a Federal investigation.
Once again I wish you all much luck! BTW that same criminal Shiff is also a
major donor to The Nizkor Project run by another criminal named Kenneth McVay so
a conspiracy of harassment and defamation does exist!! (More proof is coming
shortly.)
>Each writer has been critical in their
>writings of US/Israeli entanglements; each has received death threats
>from the same phone source--which has now been identified. All manner
>of "special interest groups" have been protected from harrassment and
>seen perpetrators punished. That this group is comprised of prominent
>writers who hold what are undoubtedly unpopular beliefs, in the eyes
>of mainstream media and probably within Washington D.C., will prove a
>test case for the law being "fair and balanced."
Don't hold your breath waiting for justice! If a Jew does a crime against a
non-Jew and especially a non-Jew who won't behave then your chances of ever
receiving justice and having the real criminals prosecuted are slim and none!
Once again what I have endured and this is only the tip of the iceberg:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bcfa52fae1b480f2?fwc=1
Subject: MUST READ! Yale F. Edeiken Inciting Violence Against Me In USENET
Posts He Signed!! (From My Archives) V1.0
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:33:13 -0600
Message-ID: <3bhpt1pq1of1mbst7...@4ax.com>
~~Yale F.Edeiken's ICEPICK Death Threat Post He Addressed to Me~~
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/92bdb523cee12857?fwc=1
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/92bdb523cee12857?dmode=source&hl=en
(Archived locally as: YFE_ice-pick_Threat_1 and YFE_ice-pick_Threat_2 and
YFE_ice-pick_Threat_2.jpg)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: I am going to ruin Scott Bradbury's life.
Date: 2000/07/07
Message-ID: <3965E489...@enter.net>
X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <ab...@enter.net>, We Care <ab...@newsread.com>
X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 962978958 207.16.155.112 (Fri, 07 Jul 2000
10:09:18 EDT)
Organization: ENTER.net (enter.net)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,sci.skeptic
Hey you little shit, that forgery was the last straw. I am going to
forever fuck up your life and I hope that someone takes an icepick and
works you over from head to toe. Fuck, I might evne do it you little
fuckhead or pay someone to do it.
--YFE
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
(For a fact I made no forgery and Yale "Fatboy" Edeiken is a "mentally unstable
crazy man" who suffers from schizoid paranoia.) That isn't the only death threat
that the criminal shyster posted either! In December 1999 Yale F. Edeiken posted
my unlisted telephone number, address etc he obtained using a forged subpoena
not issued by the court with the invitation that people pay me a visit with
baseball bats as described in full detail here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/93263479c9c0be6c?fwc=1
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!) V3.0 U_0101
Message-ID: <fh3gr19kqo8jhoqgu...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Jan 2006 18:33:33 GMT
------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?... Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
-----------------------------
To this day no District Attorney nor State Attorney General will prosecute those
criminal acts and I filed the original complaints well within the statute of
limitations. If a Gentile did to Jewish Yale F. Edeiken what he did to me the
Gentile would be charged and convicted for "hate crimes" and be put behind
prison bars and be labeled as a "neo-nazi hate monger." Does anyone wish to deny
the hypocrisy of the justice system and its selective prosecutions on who gets
prosecuted and who doesn't? Tavish
>###
>
>Todd Brendan Fahey has served as aide to former Congressman John B.
>Conlan, former Arizona Governor Evan Mecham, to CIA officer Theodore
>L. Humes and to the late Defense Intelligence Agency chief, Lt.
>General Daniel O. Graham.
>
>--------------------------------------------
>Nazihunter, nothing but a sore loser. A rabid kike.
Amen to that!
Tavish
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with
the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." BUT I have "demonstrated" the
association between the Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
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Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
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Ward Cleaver
Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>I will have more info on Nazihunter in a short time. I am updating my archives
>at the present time. I will post the updated archives contents in this very
>thread as they are made ready.
Subject Title: "CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of
THT.NET and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER and Son of J Richard Shiff of Toronto"
GOOGLE links renewed on February 13, 2006.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC), <9bntjr$2bka$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>In article <MPG.15493fbae...@news.quik.com>,
>Jeffrey E Salzberg <salz...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>In article <aqptdt0u17i16sfdh...@4ax.com>, doc_tavish@my-
>>deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM says...
>>> DROP DEAD VERMIN!
>>
>>To which "vermin", specifically, are you speaking, Naziboy?
YOU VERMIN! DROP DEAD!
>Scott Bradbury's a classic example of the value of free speech. Give him
>a platform and a microphone, and he'll shoot himself (and everything
>he stands for) in the foot within 5 minutes.
You are a classic example of free speech too McVay. You are an ASSOCIATE of a
person who has canceled every post I have made since mid March, you are funded
by B'nai Brith which seeks to imprison people for saying the wrong things, and
you have said:
Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security?
Author: Ken McVay OBC
Email:kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca
{...]
>McVay stated:
>"Will I lose sleep if Ernst Zundel spends time in a German
>prison? No, Mr. Lockhart, I will not."
Lockart:
>Seems a far-cry from your statements on CBC Ken!
No, it isn't, and I appreciate your posting my quote to prove it:
>McVay on CBC:
>"I did at that time approve [of] Canadian actions against Zundel against
>Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction because they offended me so
>deeply I said good shut them up put them in jail do what ever it takes,
>...no free speech."
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/65dfda6c5a071cea?fwc=1
Subject: B'nai Brith/ADL's Agenda Against Free Speech World Wide V3.0 T_1002
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:51:43 -0500
Message-ID: <8fa1k1ta5j5dfrh26...@4ax.com>
References: <gm31k1583tv8rtbgg...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/65dfda6c5a071cea?dmode=source
<end of excerpt>
Back to McVay and Company and their poor damage control:
>No one else could possibly discredit Mr. Bradbury as efficiently or
>effectively as he discredits himself.
You are nothing more than a liar and smear agent for a bunch of evil
Neo-Pharisees. You are a sneering condescending bastard just like your
masters.
>Such are the proponents of "Holocaust denial."
Where have I denied the Holocaust liar? Care to show one post or archive where I
denied it? Why do you have to resort to lies Ken?
BTW why did Scrappy at THT.NET e-mail you about all the forged cancels your pal
Shiff is doing to Matt Giwer and myself? Also why would Scrappy act like he did
not know Shiff and days later he e-mails Matt Giwer and myself that he did not
know the e-mail address of "Dr. Shiff"? Seems strange that Scrappy would act
like he didn't know Shiff and then later refer to him as Dr. Shiff!
Now quit being a coward McVay and answer why Scrappy e-mailed you about the
harassment Giwer and I are experiencing? Looks conspiratorial to me.
Everyone look at this! (The following e-mails are locally archived.)
X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:24:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Matt Giwer <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>, <mac...@tht.net>, <kmc...@nizkor.org>,
<ab...@networksolutions.com>, <ab...@trends.ca>
Subject: Re: #2 Reply- Rogue Cancellations[Fwd: ttnet]
X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by vm7-ext.prodigy.net id
f3JBYu2214944
<deleted as it came from Matt Giwer>
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Matt Giwer wrote:
> The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>
> Why not simply answer the mail as to why you keep adding kmcvay? As no
> one else added him or even mentioned him before you added him, you know
> of a connection we do not know. What is that connection.
>
> As many Mr. Spocks would have said, we are all ears.
>
> > Okay, having better things to do then to scan through several hundred
> > lines of useless information,
>
> Two weeks ago you said you were putting the effort into the hand of
> THT.NET yet that continues. As THT.NET has not taken action why is
> THT.NET still being given domain service? ISPs must be responsible.
>
> > if you can send me *one* cancel more recent
> > then ~2weeks ago, we'd have something to at least investigate ... keep
> > sending me several hundred lines of garbage to sift through, and I'll send
> > you back the same response each time and not waste my time reading the
> > contents of the email ...
>
> It is repetative of what has been previously sent. I certainly had no
> problem reading it the first time and I have never worked in any aspect
> of the internet business. It is not that difficult and I have reasonable
> consulting rates but price in $US.
>
> > Marc/Ken, I don't have Dr. Shiff's email address ...
[...]
> > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
> > Systems Administrator @ hub.org
> > primary: scr...@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
Why would Scrappy be saying Dr. Shiff on April 19th and be e-mailing Ken McVay a
copy. Notice just 13 days ago Scrappy acted like he didn't know who Shiff was!
X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:18:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Matt Giwer <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: <ab...@tampabay.rr.com>, <secu...@tampabay.rr.com>,
Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: URGENT! Matt Now Shiff Is Canceling Stranger's Posts
Using Your Identity and Taiwan University Server]
did you ever think maybe that its someone other then this Shiff?
Considering that its obvious that whomever it is moving from NNTP
server to NNTP server and assuming ppl's identities?
<end>
In thirteen days Scrappy went from saying "this Shiff" to "Dr. Shiff."
Here is Scrappy advising Ken McVay what McVay's major donor (Dr. Laurence B.
Shiff, Ph.D.) was doing to Matt Giwer and myself:
Sender: xx...@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:53:21 -0400
From: Matt Giwer <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>
Organization: IASUTAAS Industries
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: ab...@tampabay.rr.com, secu...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED
by Criminal from THT.NET]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED by
Criminal from THT.NET
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:33:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
CC: <postm...@news.ntu.edu.tw>, <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>,
<ab...@rr.com>, <da...@vex.net>, <kmc...@nizkor.org>, <ad...@THT.NET>
I think we got him *this* time ... please feel free to report any other
trangressions, including any line to the effect of:
> X-Trace: news.tht.net 986430216 32344 216.126.78.61
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Scott Bradbury wrote:
> To whom it may concern,
> Your news server has been "hacked" and is being used criminally by a user
> in Toronto, Ontario Canada to wage cancel attacks against his opposition.
> This should be of great interest to you because his cancelbot is consuming
> your resources. This person is Laurence B. Shiff and he is affiliated with
> THT.NET based in Toronto, Ontario Canada. I will provide proof below. As
> for now a rough count estimate appears that he has issued over a thousand
> cancels and they are still being shown in the news group called
> control.cancel.
> Shiff is now in the process of waging a cyber attack on Matt Giwer of
> Tampa, Florida USA.
> At this time 1780 cancels have been issued against Matt Giwer using your
> server starting 04/06/2001 5:03 PM CENTRAL STANDARD DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME
> and my last update shows the assault continuing to: 7:22 PM CSDST or
> 01:22:00 GMT
>
> Thank you,
> Scott Bradbury
<end>
I ask again what does Ken McVay have to do with Laurence Shiff's aka
NAZIHUNTER'S CYBER ATTACK against Giwer and myself!?
<end>
For the record I show the full headers here:
Received: from vm6-ext.prodigy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by vm6-wfldad with ESMTP;
Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:37:25 -0400
Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29])
by vm6-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f371aIg98368
for <xx...@flash.net>; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:36:18 -0400
Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost)
by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f371XG597020;
Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:33:16 -0300 (ADT)
(envelope-from scr...@hub.org)
X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:33:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
Cc: <postm...@news.ntu.edu.tw>, <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>,
<ab...@rr.com>, <da...@vex.net>, <kmc...@nizkor.org>, <ad...@THT.NET>
Subject: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED by
Criminal from THT.NET
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.2001040...@pop.flash.net>
Message-Id: <Pine.BSF.4.33.010406...@mobile.hub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I think we got him *this* time ...
<end>
Here is apparently Ken McVay trying to pull a very sneaky on me trying to find
out what I have on Shiff:
AN E-MAIL I RECEIVED:
Received: from vma-ext.prodigy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by vma-wfldad with ESMTP;
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:45:33 -0400
Received: from smtp4.hushmail.com (smtp4.hushmail.com [64.40.111.32])
64.40.111.32 resolves as:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
NetNation Communications, Inc. (NETBLK-NETNATION)
1410 - 555 West Hastings Street
Vancouver BC, BC V6B 4N6
CA
Netname: NETNATION
Netblock: 64.40.96.0 - 64.40.111.255
Maintainer: NNC
Coordinator:
NetNation Commmunications, Inc. (IN8-ARIN) ipa...@netnation.com
604-688-8946
Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
NS1.NETNATION.COM 204.174.223.1
NS2.NETNATION.COM 204.174.223.31
<end>
McVay is the only person I know who lives in Vancouver BC area.
I know how McVay got this secret e-mail address too! Scrappy at THT.NET "gave
it" to him. Scrappy did e-mail Matt Giwer and I and "accidentally" included
McVay in the CC instead of BCC field as shown here:
Sender: xx...@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:53:21 -0400
From: Matt Giwer <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>
Organization: IASUTAAS Industries
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: ab...@tampabay.rr.com, secu...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED
by Criminal from THT.NET]
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Attn: Taiwan University - Your Server is Being HACKED by
Criminal from THT.NET
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:33:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Hermit Hacker <scr...@hub.org>
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
CC: <postm...@news.ntu.edu.tw>, <xx...@tampabay.rr.com>,
<ab...@rr.com>, <da...@vex.net>, <kmc...@nizkor.org>, <ad...@THT.NET>
I think we got him *this* time ... please feel free to report any other
trangressions, including any line to the effect of:
<end>
Back to the e-mail I received:
by vma-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3GHiRw299708
for <xx...@flash.net>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:44:27 -0400
Received: from user5.hushmail.com (user5.hushmail.com [64.40.111.45])
by smtp4.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37002F47
for <xx...@flash.net>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (from root@localhost)
by user5.hushmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27690;
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:43:45 -0700
From: squ...@hushmail.com
Message-Id: <2001041617...@user5.hushmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="Hushpart_boundary_pHdpEzOpPULgertZWqFquHXpZZlzJotC"
Subject: SHIFF
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: xx...@flash.net
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:39:32 +0000 (GMT)
PLEASE COULD YOU SEND ME OR POST TO ALT.REVISIONISM ANY INFORMATION YOU
HAVE ABOUT SHIFF THAT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN POSTED BY JOHN MORRIS OR DR
MICHAEL.
THANK YOU
<end of e-mail>
Ken what we have is a conspiracy here and a common agenda. Shiff has been
identified as Marduk aka NAZIHUNTER and you did say in public forum that MARDUK
has been a major contributor to your Nizkor. Your pal Shiff engaged in a crime
which falls under FBI/RCMP/Interpol jurisdiction on April 10, 2001 against me
and seeing how you have been shown to be in "the loop" concerning the ongoing
harassment against Matt Giwer and myself this would make you an accomplice.
I would also be willing to bet that you and Shiff have B'nai Brith's endorsement
in the smear campaign and the continual forge canceling of our posts. Mark my
word McVay- the FBI has been informed.
All of the above is in the hands of law enforcement. You are part of a criminal
enterprise.
Here is Ken McVay linked to MARDUK aka Laurence Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/804fe599aa3bcedd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Nazihunter_McVay_Shiff_B)
"Conspiracy? Criminal Enterprise? Unholy Evil Trinity? Most Likely! Shiff,
McVay, and THT.NET and What They Have in Common"
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:30:52 -0500
Message-ID: <rkqsct80sgs1gssa4...@4ax.com>
<<The above archive is also being updated and all critical evidence being
locally archived as well.>>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d14560d3d59515ff?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVay_Nazihunter_1)
Subject: Re: Let's play "find the nazihunter"
Date: 12/20/1999
Author: Kenneth McVay OBC <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org>
Message-ID: <83lp0j$17ua$1...@news.tht.net>
[...]
John Morris did say:
>But back to the question: why did I ask you if there was no public
>connection between you and Marduk?
You asked me because you knew that Marduk had been a donor at one point,
and you wanted me to tell you who he was - i.e. violate a confidence.
>Well, when Matt Giwer was being mailbombed, I decided to see if I
>could help him catch the culprit. And given Marduk's already
>well-established history, I suggested publicly that Marduk could not
>be ruled out as the mailbomber. That brought this response by
>private e-mail:
>
><quote>
> Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca
> [129.128.5.214]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.2) with
> SMTP id UAA42628 for <jmo...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>; Sat, 28 Dec
> 1996 20:04:12 -0700
> Received: from tor-srs1.netcom.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with SMTP
> (8.6.5/UA) id UAA25114
> for <John....@UAlberta.CA>; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:04:50 -0700
> Received: from laurie by tor-srs1.netcom.ca (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom)
> id WAA27136; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:03:32 -0500 (EST)
> X-UIDL: 851841834.000
> Message-Id: <1996122903...@tor-srs1.netcom.ca>
> To: John....@UAlberta.CA
> Subject: Re: GIWER'S ANONYMOUS-EMAIL ATTEMPT AT SELF-LIBEL
> From: mar...@netcom.ca (Marduk)
> Organization: Babylonians 'R Us
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 22:03:07 PST
> X-Mailer: WinVN 0.99.6
> In-Reply-To: <32c693f6...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
> References: <5a3opk$i...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> <32c693f6...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> In article <32c693f6...@news.srv.ualberta.ca>, you say...
>
> >I would not rule out the possibility that Marduk was the source
> >of the e-mail, and there is a least one other individual who might
> >have had a hand in it. If I receive enough e-mail copies, I will
> >ask for the cooperation of at least three ISPs.
> >
> >--
> >John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> >--
> >The Nizkor Project | http://www.nizkor.org/
>
> that is hardly fair nor accurate. at the very least. you could
> e-mail me first, before making such an accustaion.
> I would suggest that you query Ken McVay regarding my substantial
> financial support of Nizkor's good works as proof that we are on
> the same side.
></quote>
<<Doc Tavish comment April 19, 2001: See the tie between Nizkor and
NAZIHUNTER? Notice where the e-mail came from? Ken MCVay and Shiff are
"asshole buddies" plain and simple!>>
>Well, I kind of shrugged it off way back then at the end of 1996. I
>kind of just shook my head and asked myself, "Who is this asshole who
>posts people's addresses and telephone numbers and makes harassing
>phone calls and thinks he's a 'good guy' because he gives Ken McVay
>twenty bucks?"
>
>But I remembered the e-mail, and that's why I asked you if you could
>help me track down the bastard who'd been posting people's addresses
>and telephone numbers. You refused.
No, I didn't refuse. I said that if your evidence proved that the two
posters were the same, I would consider revealing his identity. You sent
me your "proof," and I was unconvinced, and told you so - primarily
because of the incorrect academic information (he is not an academic,
period, as I told you at the time) you attributed to your man.
[...]
[charges of self-interest due to source of funding]
>Do I smell self-interest here? You bet I do.
You also think marduk is an academic - he isn't.
You also think I hate Mr. Edeiken - I don't.
You also think I accused Mr. McFee of being Nazihunter - I didn't.
>You've gone out of your way to cover your ass from the get-go. You
>released information that you didn't have to release describing Yale
>Edeiken as the source of the address information. You've pretended
Since Mr. Edeiken was the source, that makes perfect sense.
>You've lied about how long the file was available. You've tried to
>cover up the fact that a major donor to your website has a history of
>harassing people not only in Usenet, but in the real world. You've
>denied that your major donor can be connected to the name and
>practices of Nazihunter.
I not only did not "cover up" Marduk's harassment in UseNet, I chastised
him for it. That isn't the issue - the issue is that your evidence does
not prove both userid's are the same person - in fact, with respect to the
academic side, your evidence seems to prove that both are _not_ the same
man.
>But is this all just to cover your ass and protect a major donor? Is
>even just an exercise in fucking over Yale Edeiken? Or is there a
>bigger game afoot?
Marduk is not a donor, and has not been for about a year, if memory
serves. I am protecting his identity because I have yet to see
evidence of his guilt. If and when I do, I will release the
information to the police.
--
The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ec6173b9701f948d?fwc=1
"Everyone Look at Nazihunter's Headers! Very Revealing!.."
Message-ID: <09in6tsf1renkcsga...@4ax.com>
References: <94g4ng$nq8$2...@news.tht.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/931e12ec51e79819?dmode=source
(Archived locally as: Marduk_WinVN 0.99.9)
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:46:22 GMT
~~~End of Proof Which Links McVay to Shiff~~~
(Also something to think about. Shiff laid on his relentless attacks of
canceling my posts at the same time I started posting about Nizkor and its
tax status! Seeing how a link has been established between the two I can
say there is a "criminal enterprise" a foot. McVay did afterall post my
address etc.)
MOVING ON!
Here is a classic death threat Laurence Shiff posted through THT.NET
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2826c9be356acfa5?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffThreatFeb7)
news.flash.net!nntp.flash.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!
nntp1.njy.teleglobe.net!teleglobe.net!hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
From: mar...@idirect.com (NAZIHUNTER)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: HERE'S A THOUGHT: MEET SCOTTY ON FEB. 7
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:32:47 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Assyrians "R" Us
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <95klae$2m7d$1...@news.tht.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Trace: news.tht.net 981325967 88301 216.126.78.61
(4 Feb 2001 22:32:47 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
Xref: news.flash.net alt.revisionism:788892
ASSUMING THAT THW SHIT-ASSED NARCOLEPTIC OBESE DWARF KNOWS HOW TO NAVIGATE
BEYOND THE 25 FT RANGE OF HIS MOTHER'S LEASH, ONE HOPES THAT HE CAN ATTEND
HIS DAMAGES HEARING ON FEB 7 IN ALLENTOWN. THATS THE DAY SCOTTY LOSES HIS
RENTED STY.
SO LETS ALL MEET HIM...WITH BASEBALL BATS...
I'LL BE THERE, LETS SEE IF YOU CAN PICK ME OUT OF THE CROWD
<end>
DO NOT FORGET WHO FUNDS NIZKOR- B'NAI BRITH!
Need I say more? Do we see self interest? Do we see conspiracy?
Here is John Morris going on record identifying Shiff as MARDUK.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/c7232460d8c7326e?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted)
"The Canadian NAZIHUNTER Finally Outed?"
Message-ID: <eu20ctc69iedcg6eq...@4ax.com>
References: <tburfpo...@corp.supernews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/55c0bf1e31432709?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_2)
<00tubtco2tdol8rbe...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/adb3012ce8701fb8?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_3)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:41:20 GMT
[...]
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:57:38 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>In <tburfpo...@corp.supernews.com> in alt.revisionism, on Mon, 26
>Mar 2001 16:27:37 -0000, john_...@freedom.net wrote:
>
>> 15 GODDAMN YEAR! AND STILL NO DEGREE!
>> NEW TOPIC: "THE CANON OF RICHY RICH."
>Good. Now the attacks on me begin, and now we see what he's made of.
>
>It's not enough that I have been vocal in my opposition to
>antisemitism for all these years. It is not enough that I have
>researched the Holocaust and Holcaust denial for all these years
>demonstrating time and time again the fraud that calls itself
>Revisionism.
>
>That's not good enough. No, I also have to acquiesce to the
>viligante campaign of the poor little rich boy, a campaign that makes
>him indistingushable from the fascists he thinks he is fighting.
>
>Well, if that's the price of free speech, bring it on, Laurence.
Laurence? Laurence as in Laurence Shiff? Hmmmmh! Verrrrrry Interesting
to say the least!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/405685706ff9469a?fwc=1
From: david_michael (david_...@onetel.net.uk)
Subject: Re: NEW NAZIHUNTER WEB PAGE
Message-ID: <3a754...@news.newsfeeds.com>
References: <d953939a8414917c...@anon.xg.nu>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fe0c20930feec081?dmode=source
(Archived locally as: ShiffHarassment_1)
<u01a7t8eeovc6ncfo...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b35e7a950b501d54?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_4)
Date: 2001-01-29 02:07:50 PST
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:u01a7t8eeovc6ncfo...@4ax.com...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
<snip>
From which we may infer that Mr Morris still doesn't have a clue who
Nazihunter is, despite the allegation of a $825,000 house bought by
Nazihunter just after he got his PhD.
The one name on that list that means something to me is Shiff. The
following was sent to me on 28 December 1999. I assumed that it was a
deliberate red herring and took no action. There is, however, the
possibility that it was genuinely sent to the wrong e-mail address by a
somewhat butterfingered Mr Burchell:
<begin quote>
From glob...@freenet.co.uk Tue Dec 28 11:44:22 1999
Received:from [195.89.137.4]
(helo=maildns.FSBDial.co.uk) by
rhenium.btinternet.com with esmtp
(Exim 2.05 #1) id 122v37-0004Ng-00 for
david.e...@btinternet.com; Tue, 28
Dec 1999 11:44:21 +0000
Received: from [212.1.140.231] by
maildns.freenet.co.uk (NTMail
4.30.0013/NT0619.00.8ceac940) with ESMTP id qqeqhaaa for
<david.e...@btinternet.com>; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:29:34
+0000
Message-ID: <024001bf5129$207041c0$e78c01d4@oemcomputer>
From: "Global Investigation Service" <glob...@freenet.co.uk>
To: <david.e...@btinternet.com>
Subject: Enquiry
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:42:18 -0000
Dear Mr Shiff,
Thank you for your enquiry. Our fee will be £ 135.00 on a no trace, no fee
basis. We will require all the information you have regarding Dr Michael
and we will also require a physical address and telephone number for you.
Once we have located his current address ( normally within 48 hours) we
will telephone you to confirm and once we have received our fee, either by
direct transfer or cheque, we will provide our report.
We look forward to hearing from you shortly.
Kind regards
Timothy Burchell
Global Investigation Service
www.ukprivateinvestigators.com
Tel: 0044 1883 717 955
Voicemail: 0044 702 116 5845
US Fax: (253) 736 7423
ICQ# 52653461
Mob: 0044 7887 481319
UK Toll Free: 0800 980 2792
<end quote>
David
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Using the message id from the above GOOGLE archive
of the remnant of John Morris' posts I retrieved this in
AGENT as a "pad locked" post in my reader's view window:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b35e7a950b501d54?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_4)
From: John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: NEW NAZIHUNTER WEB PAGE
Organization: at University of Alberta
Reply-To: John....@UAlberta.CA
Message-ID: <u01a7t8eeovc6ncfo...@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 06:25:40 GMT
In <d953939a8414917c...@anon.xg.nu> in alt.revisionism,
on Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:52:06 -0600, No User <no....@anon.xg.nu>
wrote:
>LETS SEE SCOTTIE CANCEL THIS.
There used to be a guy who posted here who also posted people's
addresses and telephone with suggestions that they be called. Like
you, he was to be a cheap bully. But he didn't hide behind an
anonymous server. He posted under the nym Marduk.
Marduk once said that he had a teacher named Ephraim Speiser:
<quote>
From: mar...@idirect.com (marduk)
Subject: A BASIC BIBLIOGRAPHY FOR THE CHRONOLOGY OF ANCIENT ISRAEL
Date: 28 Feb 1996 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <ragnaroek1996Fe...@news2.compulink.com>
newsgroups: sci.archaeology,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish
[...]
Laurence B. Shiff, "The Nur-Sin Archive: Private Entrepreneurship in
Babylon (603-507 B.C.)." Ph.D., 1987
~~End of Fetch From My AGENT Stored Post Cache~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6cf0f4e08f690df1?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_5)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: David E. Michael's Perilous Existence(s) (was Re: It's
learning time.)
Message-ID: <ac7kbtoh4o58r6uk9...@4ax.com>
References: <99ab9b$fg$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>
<V%2u6.263$fy....@www.newsranger.com> <3ab8...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>
<3AB8DB4D...@home.com> <3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com>
<3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> <3AB91B5E...@nizkor.org>
<3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> <sn2jbts4285rbr420...@4ax.com>
<3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>
Date: 2001-03-22 08:20:13 PST
In <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Thu, 22
Mar 2001 11:28:08 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
[...]
> I note how you have repeatedly purported to know who Nazihunter is
> and yet have failed to post his name or one shred of evidence that
> you do in fact know this.
Oh good. Red herrings.
Let's not forget that *you* erroneously identified Grant Frame as
Nazihunter. So what exactly are you whining about others doing?
BTW, Laurence Shiff used to post as Marduk. I proved that already.
If you think Marduk is Nazihunter, then Shiff is your Nazihunter. I
think it is pretty suggestive that you got e-mail identifying Shiff
as someone who hire a private investigator trying to locate you, and
it strengthens the circumstantial connections between Marduk and
Nazihunter.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
"Larry Shiff -- Look What GEEKTOOLS Shows About Laurence Shiff's E-Mail
Address!"
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:50:36 +0100, <3ac3...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>
"david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
[...]
>It appears that Laurence Shiff's e-mail address is:
>
>sh...@kaspu.com
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
I ran kaspu.com and got:
Server used for this query: [ whois.networksolutions.com ]
Registrant:
Kaspu (KASPU-DOM)
<<Doc Tavish comment March 30, 2001: When I ran my spell checker it
suggested "Kaspu" be spelled "Kaput." I wonder if this is an omen? :->
End of Comment>>
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Domain Name: KASPU.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Shiff, Laurence (LS5339) sh...@BABYLON.TO
Kaspu
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
416-789-5691 (FAX) 416-789-5691
~~End~~
Notice the billing e-mail contact address for Laurence Shiff?
It is <sh...@BABYLON.TO>
Did MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER or did he not have a fascination and obsession
for all things of the Ancient Mid-East such as Babylon and Assyria?
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/american/worldnet/1996/forgeries.1096
(Archived locally as: forgeries.1096)
Kaspu Corporation (BABYLONIANS-DOM)
2788 Bathurst St. #218
Toronto, Ontario M6B-3A3
Canada
Domain Name: BABYLONIANS.COM
This was recently posted:
"Laurence B. Shiff, "The Nur-Sin Archive: Private Entrepreneurship in
Babylon (603-507 B.C.)." Ph.D., 1987"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b35e7a950b501d54?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_4)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: NEW NAZIHUNTER WEB PAGE
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-01-28 22:46:00 PST
-------
More info on Shiff and tying him to THT.NET
Dig gw-shiff1...@207.115.59.241 ...
Non-authoritative answer
Recursive queries supported by this server
Query for gw-shiff1mb.tht.net type=255 class=1
gw-shiff1mb.tht.net A (Address) 216.126.78.61
tht.net NS (Nameserver) ns.tht.net
tht.net NS (Nameserver) ns1.tht.net
ns.tht.net A (Address) 216.126.88.2
ns1.tht.net A (Address) 206.130.183.4
Canonical name: gw-shiff1mb.tht.net
Addresses:
216.126.78.61
<<Scrappy at THT.NET did refer to Dr.Shiff in text
higher up in this post>>
Need I say more about criminal accomplice Ken McVay?
Doc Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/834c29d6b2fadf04?fwc=1
Subject: Myth I Posted as NAZIHUNTER and Posted Yale F. Edeiken's Family Info
DEBUNKED For the Evil Defamation It Is. V1.0
Message-ID: <70pit1l70omnoueno...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:36:13 GMT
Also:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/654010afecea3674?fwc=1
Subject: Canadian Based Nizkor.Org Has INCITED Criminal Acts aka Re: McVay
continues to threaten William Grosvenor V2.0 T_1001
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:59:16 -0500
Message-ID: <82gtj19rh5einm70m...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
[850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
THAT is a fact.
Sara
--
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are really
rearranging their prejudices."
- Edward R. Murrow
Ward Cleaver
Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500, <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
>#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
>
>>==========================
>>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>>number (416-785-4574)
>
>http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/reverse-phone/?source=GO000009&KW=canadian_reverse_lookup
>http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/ReversePhone?state_id=ON&phone=416-785-4574&survey_session=1
>For more info:
>http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/Replay?search_id=30121360895412420694&lower=1&more_info=1
>
>The above reverse searches confirm the telephone number is Shiff's as well as
>the address below as being his!
>
>>owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA.
Here is what I posted some time ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/6c6e8d53169353b7?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffFinallyOuted)
Subject: Lawrence Shiff? aka The Canadian NAZIHUNTER Finally Outed? Let's Hope
So! Turn About Is Fair Play Heh Mates!?
Organization: Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG Smears Private Citizens
Message-ID: <6v20ctsf7t81v712p...@4ax.com>
References: <tburfpo...@corp.supernews.com>
<00tubtco2tdol8rbe...@4ax.com>
<mmuubtk5t0f4deqci...@4ax.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:41:21 GMT
>Whoever gets Laurence B. Schiff's address etc. and posts it first gets a
>bagel and a box of Rice a Roni from Doc Tavish. ABSOLUTELY NO DEATH
>THREATS, INVITES, NEIGHBOR'S NAMES, FAMILY NAMES ETC.
>
>I just want to see in this format with nothing else:
>
>Laurence B. Shiff
>666 Satan Way
>Toronto, Ontario Canada
>Phone 1-666-666-6660
I found a Lawrence (not Laurence) Shiff who lives in Collingwood just a little
N.W. of Toronto and from the street address it looks like a "gated community"
with large homes! Collingwood looks close enough to Toronto that its residents
would use Toronto ISPs too! Am I getting warmer? I bet this is ol' NAZIHUNTER.
I have the address and telephone number but until I am 100% sure I will NOT post
it!
>NOW ONE THING MORE. I just want him out in the open like he has done
>everyone else he's targeted. Innocent bystanders- I.E. family, neighbors
>etc. SHOULD BE LEFT OUT!! I MEAN IT!
>
>Also let us do the same to Ken McVay!
>
>Is everyone game? Let the hunt begin!
>
>Sound of English bugles sounding. Tallyho!
>
> In a real happy mood mates,
> Doc Tavish
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
The above wish has been granted to me on February 12, 2006 with:
<START/QUOTE>
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500, <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
>==========================
>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>number (416-785-4574)
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/reverse-phone/?source=GO000009&KW=canadian_reverse_lookup
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/ReversePhone?state_id=ON&phone=416-785-4574&survey_session=1
For more info:
http://www.whitepages.ca/10655/search/Replay?search_id=30121360895412420694&lower=1&more_info=1
The above reverse searches confirm the telephone number is Shiff's as well as
the address below as being his!
>owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA.
>Friends assisted Hall in some Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer
>of the Kaspu Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
>Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting threats from,
>and two of my other writers."
>===========================
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
>Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
>
>Privacy by Todd Brendan Fahey
>February 13, 2006
>
>James Hall publishes as "SARTRE" throughout the Web. Perhaps the most
>prolific right-wing columnist on the 'net, he keeps to himself in
>private life. Long retired as a political strategist, Hall is no
>longer a believer in organized politics--though very much still a
>believer in and spokesman for Jeffersonian anti-federalist, limited
>government ideology.
>
>And so he was surprised to answer his unlisted phone number on January
>30th, to the question that was asked three times in succession: "Is
>this SARTRE?" (His response each time: "Who is calling?"). Finally,
>the caller shouted, "We know who you are!", followed by a death threat
>that he has divulged only to the New York state police department in
>his area, which he alerted immediately.
>
>Says Hall, "No one calls for Sartre on my home phone number."
>
>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>number (416-785-4574) owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh
>Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA. Friends assisted Hall in some
>Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer of the Kaspu
>Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
>Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting
>threats from, and two of my other writers."
<END/QUOTE>
You all have made this a very good start of a New Year!
Now let Laurence B. Shiff receive justice under the Law of Moses seeing how he
is an observant Jew:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
Ward Cleaver
Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>I will have more info on Nazihunter in a short time. I am updating my archives
>at the present time. I will post the updated archives contents in this very
>thread as they are made ready.
Subject Title: "Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People"
Originally posted: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:06:40 -0600
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/fbd9b75df1011a97?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Nazihunter_McVay_Shiff_C)
Subject: Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:06:40 -0600
Message-ID: <u6bc1ushuf4mcf8ot...@4ax.com>
Special Note February 13, 2006: GOOGLE links have been updated to 2006 standards
and many posts are now archived locally to prevent the evidence from being
NUKED.
================================================================================
Here is a major body of proof that Torontonian Laurence B. Shiff, son of J
Richard (of York University) and Dorothy, brother of David; engages in criminal
activity against numerous people under the nyms of MARDUK and NAZIHUNTER.
Laurence B. Shiff posts bogus child porn ads while giving out innocent people's
addresses and telephone numbers, he makes death threat telephone calls, he makes
death threat USENET postings-- in general he's a coward who thinks he's above
the law and the following is solid documented proof that Dr. Laurence B. Shiff
is a demented criminal personality. The evidence which follows should be
verified by all reading this expose'.
For the record Laurence B. Shiff or one of his accomplices keeps forge canceling
these posts!
Doc Tavish
On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 02:46:50 GMT,
<7t6twlwNF$Fym.6...@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com> TRUTH...@TRUTH.COM wrote:
>From: TRUTH...@TRUTH.COM
>Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if
>Subject: WHO CANCELLED MAT'S WEB SITE
>Message-ID: <7t6twlwNF$Fym.6...@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com>
>Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 02:46:50 GMT
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.0.91.22
>
>www.giwersworld.org has been taken offline
IT IS NOW BACK ONLINE YOU COWARD!!
>ITS THE GODDAM JEW BASTARD ZIONIST IN TORONTO
>IS RESpONSIBLE
Your self description of: "THE GODDAM JEW BASTARD ZIONIST IN TORONTO" is most
correct Laurence B. Shiff.
You had it taken offline Laurence B. Shiff by filing a bogus complaint that Matt
libeled you. The site is back on line now.
For a fact I provided the web host with proof that you are MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER
aka Laurence B. Shiff and that YOU have a long history of forge canceling posts,
uploading death threat web pages directed against me, making death threat
telephone calls, posting bogus child porn ads and giving out not one BUT two
innocent people's addresses and phone numbers (all on file with the Feds). I
gave "Jeff" all the law enforcement contact info so he may verify that YOU are,
indeed, the little bastard Matt Giwer depicts on his web page!
I gave "Jeff" copies of your employee's (Marc Fournier) e-mail connecting you as
Dr. Shiff to THT.NET as well as being connected to Ken McVay and his Nizkor thus
showing a criminal conspiracy. I also gave "Jeff" numerous forged cancel headers
originating from THT.NET and many with YOUR name being the name of the NNTP
server!!
Make no mistake Laurence B. Shiff- you have been positively identified as MARDUK
who is also NAZIHUNTER and who is also from Toronto, Ontario Canada.
<<<<<<SPECIAL NOTE: All posts which show a MESSAGE ID may be retrieved and
verified at GOOGLE'S archives using this method:
To retrieve/verify the archives go to the GOOGLE web site for USENET archive
retrievals <http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search> and Copy'N'Paste
the MESSAGE IDs into the field labeled: "Message ID Find the message with
message ID" and then activate GOOGLE SEARCH.>>>>>>>
What follows should pretty well prove to others who have been victimized by you
that you are Laurence B. Shiff of Kaspu.Com!
From: Doc Tavish® (doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: Re: SOME INTERESTING INFO REGARDING MR. ANTHONY J. LOMENZO
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <r1dcttg3sitm4gll1...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-10-23 20:30:37 PST
On 22 Oct 2001 21:48:22 -0500,
<7e16a32602dc255b...@meganetnews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72805fbf730bd8b2?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Hellcrown_1)
hell...@selector.net (hellcrown) wrote:
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: SOME INTERESTING INFO REGARDING MR. ANTHONY J. LOMENZO
>From: hell...@selector.net (hellcrown)
>X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Message-ID: <7e16a32602dc255b...@meganetnews.com>
>Date: 22 Oct 2001 21:48:22 -0500
>Lines: 5
>Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!out.nntp.be!propagator->SanJose!in.nntp.be!
>nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!telocity->west!TELOCITY!nntpserver.com!hub1.nntpserver.com!66.40.56.30.MISMATCH!
>meganetnews.com!hub1.meganetnews.com!news1.meganetnews.com
>Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:1040325
>
>CURRENTLY RESIDING IN FORT ...
Shiff, Laurence B. (NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK aka HELLCROWN)
C/O KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: sh...@kaspu.com
For a fact Laurence B. Shiff uses HELLCROWN as a handle as proven here:
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM)
Subject: REPOST: Re: WHAT IS SCOTTIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS?
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-06-13 06:05:36 PST
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC), <9g2n4q$jng$1...@news.tht.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1da35cb1172928e8?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Hellcrown_2)
HELLC...@SELECTOR.NET (HELLCROWN5) wrote:
>Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!out.nntp.be!propagator-dallas!
>news-in-dallas.newsfeeds.com!hub.org!hub.org!not-for-mail
>From: HELLC...@SELECTOR.NET (HELLCROWN5)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Subject: WHAT IS SCOTTIE'S EMAIL ADDRESS?
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
>Lines: 2
>Message-ID: <9g2n4q$jng$1...@news.tht.net>
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
>X-Trace: news.tht.net 992272346 20208 216.126.95.242
>(11 Jun 2001 15:12:26 GMT)
>X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
>X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
>Xref: mindspring alt.revisionism:982304
>
>I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO TELL HIM
<end>
I am glad that you linked your "HELLCROWN" nym back to THT.NET.
I also have you linked to KASPU.COM too! Don't believe me? I, as well
as others (upon my alerting them), got copies of a cancel message test
you made to <control.cancel> recently.
Here it is for your benefit Laurence Shiff:
Newsgroups: control.cancel
Subject: c
From: HELLC...@HOTMAIL.COM (HELLCROWN)
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <3b154...@news.newsfeeds.com>
Date: 30 May 2001 14:34:05 -0500
Lines: 7
X-Authenticated-User: kaspu
X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com
X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or
any illegal or copyrighted postings.
X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal
or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!!
X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to <ab...@newsfeeds.com>
You may also use our online abuse reporting from:
http://www.newsfeeds.com/abuseform.htm
X-Path-Stamp: news.newsfeeds.com
Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 85,000+ UNCENSORED
Newsgroups.
Path: newssvr16.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!
newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!
newsfeed.cwix.com!europa.netcrusader.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!
local-out.newsfeeds.com!n1
Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com control.cancel:141761444
c
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
<end>
See that "X-Authenticated-User: kaspu"? What does KASPU resolve as using
GEEKTOOLS? http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
Server used for this query: [ whois.networksolutions.com ]
Registrant:
Kaspu (KASPU-DOM)
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Domain Name: KASPU.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Shiff, Laurence (LS5339) sh...@BABYLON.TO
Kaspu
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
416-789-5691 (FAX) 416-789-5691
<end>
Yep, and there is your ol' BABYLON in the info too! We all know how you have a
fixation on things Babylonian. You have also started to send me crap to my
e-mail box, which is more harassment on your part! I will also e-mail you this
message and I know two things:
1) It will not bounce
2) You will not answer
Your e-mail address is: sh...@kaspu.com
Now I ask, when are you going to stop harassing people? I know who you are and I
know where you keep business hours! Need I say more?
One example of your attack on my-deja e-mail box:
Return-Path: <hellc...@hotmail.com>
Received: from hotmail.com (sourcenat1.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.250])
by mailrecv18.bigmailbox.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f5BFAnG29929
for <doc_t...@my-deja.com> ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:10:49 -0700
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:10:48 -0700
Received: from 216.126.95.242 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11
Jun 2001 15:10:48 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [216.126.95.242]
From: "john giwer" <hellc...@hotmail.com>
To: doc_t...@my-deja.com
Subject: hi
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:10:48 -0400
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Message-ID: <F19JWEsBk31TZ...@hotmail.com>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 15:10:48.0997 (UTC)
FILETIME=[B276AD50:01C0F288]
--------------------------------------------------------
hi
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
<end>
Need I say more other than sooner or later one of Shiff's victims will retaliate
in a nasty manner!
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE LAURENCE AND WHERE TO FIND YOU!
YOU AREN'T TOO BRIGHT TO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU CRAPPED ON THROUGHOUT YOUR YEARS
OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY? A BUNCH!
Doc Tavish
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Also see:
New link for February 2006:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/35ec966e9b4acac?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Shiff_Evidentiary-Post)
Old link which still works February 2006:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=5%24-__-%25-%25-%25%25_%25__%24%24%40news.noc.cabal.int
From: THE REAL NIZKOR WATCH _ R 2 <doc_t...@my-deja.comDELETE2MAIL-NO-SPAM>
[reposted because of rogue cancel]
Subject: REPOST: EVIDENTIARY POST Re: fwab gorte mura lch lrta lzl unrz
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
X-Repost-Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:02:11 GMT
Message-ID: <5$-__-%-%-%%_%__$$@news.noc.cabal.int>
X-Original-Path:
sn-us!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!upp1.onvoy!onvoy.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!
news.stealth.net!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!
prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr10-int.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
X-Original-Message-ID: <kr8idt8rb6m9ef39r...@4ax.com>
BTW here is some of MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER's aka Laurence B. Shiff's vintage
posts in which he brags about his Babylonia and harasses people:
More on NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK = Shiff and his Babylonia:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.what.the.hell/msg/9fbbec9adf433120?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_1)
Author: We' (NaziHunter)
Email: We'llfi...@anywhere.com
Date: 1996/03/23
Forums: alt.what.the.hell
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>
x-client-port: 1512
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In article <ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.what.the.hell/msg/5b55de356c5a4db6?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_B)
mar...@idirect.com says...
>
>test
>
teststststst
~~End of Archive~~
<<Notice in the above post that MARDUK links himself to being NAZIHUNTER?
Remember the testimony of John Morris about Laurence B. Shiff being
MARDUK? John Morris also posted this about Laurence B. Shiff:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b35e7a950b501d54?fwc=1
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: NEW NAZIHUNTER WEB PAGE
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <u01a7t8eeovc6ncfo...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-01-28 22:46:00 PST
http://www.umich.edu/~neareast/pages/faculty/michalow.htm
Although that's almost enough for today, let's just close by taking a
look at the list of people who have taken degrees from Ancient Middle
Eastern Studies Program at UPenn:
<quote>
Ancient Near Eastern Studies
[...]
Laurence B. Shiff, "The Nur-Sin Archive: Private Entrepreneurship in
Babylon (603-507 B.C.)." Ph.D., 1987
<END of POST and end of my comment>
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/32a543554d690e12?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_2)
Subject: 1001 FUN THINGS TO DO WITH CUNEIFORM
Author: marduk
Email: mar...@idirect.com
Date: 1996/03/01
Forums: sci.archaeology, soc.culture.jewish
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996M...@news2.compulink.com>
Just to leave Lisa-Bashing for a second, I want to point out a very
serious problem in the field of ancient history, namely, how do we get
kids interested in it? After all, its not an easy thing to suggest to some
high-school student that going to undergrad and grad school for 8-10 years
for a Ph.D. in Assyriology or Biblical Studies is a real smart career
move. Tenure is a thing of the past, and universities are constantly on
the prowl to downsize non-revenue producing departments...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.archaeology/msg/da60e0c2413e4078?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_3)
Subject: Re: Has anyone here read Gore Vidal's _Creation_?
Author: marduk
Email: mar...@idirect.com
Date: 1996/02/27
Forums: sci.archaeology
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996Fe...@news2.compulink.com>
...Actually, as an Assyriologist who specializes in the Neo-Babylonian
period, I can state that his description of the financial activities of
The famous and powerful Egibi family of Babylon is really quite well
done....on the other hand, i cannot stand vidal's smarmy writing
style...kinda reminds me of lisa aronson, in fact.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/e56d4253dc79a3ab?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_4)
Subject: Re: C'MON HARVEY...DOES LISA PAY YOU FOR THIS NONSENSE?
Author: marduk
Email: mar...@idirect.com
Date: 1996/03/01
Forums: sci.archaeology, soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.jewish
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>
content-type:
In article <lisa.1804...@interport.net>, li...@interport.net says...
>
>In article <ragnaroek1996Fe...@news2.compulink.com>
>mar...@idirect.com (marduk) writes:
>
>>>I think it's very odd for someone to argue from authority without
>>>revealing their identity.
>>>If marduk wants to claim the credibility due a
>>>professor of assyriology and archeology, he
>>>needs to identify himself.
>>
>>Don't have time for a longish answer....I'm just rushing out the door
>>early Thursday morning to go snowboarding....Yippee...gonna play hokey
>>today and let a Teaching assistant take over a boooring intro Akkadian
>>class....now on to business:
[...]
>Pretty words from someone who make crank calls.
>
>>Herr Doktor Professor Marduk (DINGIR.AMAR.UTU)
>
>Lisa
Lets see if I understand this....You are accusing me of making long
distance crank phone calls to you?....
---end----
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/26bf5cd7dd8d0521?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_5)
Subject: Are You Really as Slug-Like as Your Picture Suggests?
Author: marduk
Email: mar...@idirect.com
Date: 1996/03/20
Forums: alt.censorship, alt.revisionism,
alt.society.civil-liberties, can.politics
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>
x-client-port: 1701
x-nntp-posting-host: glimpsenet9.idirect.com
Well....as I was perusing your extremely funny web-site, I came across a
photo of yourself. Unfortunately, I was drinking a diet pepsi at the time,
and when I was confronted by your incredibly ugly face, I spewed all over
my screen...
My God man!!!! Where is your sense of public service? The least you can do
is warn people....
Anyways...on to matters nazi and such-like: as a confirmed nazi pig, you
no doubt subscribe to the doctrine of eugenetics. That being the case, why
did you feel justified in procreating? Your son's photo indicates that he
has inherited many of your slug-like features, so don't you feel that you
have rather let the Aryan side down?
Oh by the way...why have you disconnected your phone number? We had some
awefully funny things to say to you...
-----end------
Here is John Morris again bravely outing Laurence B. Shiff as MARDUK who is
proven to also be NAZIHUNTER:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6dacd2aac55b1c42?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Marduk-Shiff-Nazihunter)
From: Tavish (doc_t...@my-deja.comREMOVE_2MAIL_NO_SPAM)
Subject: Re: A TWO FOR ONE DEAL: ONE BAT, TWO KNOLLS
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <tdla0ust3faudjj48...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-11-28 13:35:58 PST
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:25:27 GMT, <aeea0uoqmpq69b16b...@4ax.com>
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
>I can confirm that Laurence Shiff is Marduk.
Thanks for the re-confirmation.
>The evidence connecting Shiff to Nazihunter is largely circumstantial.
Not so! He has simultaneously used the nyms of MARDUK and NAZIHUNTER
together in numerous posts and most of those posts originated from Toronto,
Ontario Canada using Toronto based dial-ups.
His latest headers prove my point too!
(Archived locally as: ShiffHarassesKnolls) [Google link not given and Message ID
munged in effort to protect the Knolls' rights to privacy]
From: NAZIHUNTER <MAR...@SELECTOR.NET>
^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: A TWO FOR ONE DEAL: ONE BAT, TWO KNOLLS
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:25:07 GMT
Organization: the lazy workstation rarely defiles Robert, it floats Robette
instead
Lines: 62
Message-ID: <72734274684...@194.152.65.250>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 194-208-082-199.tele.net
X-Trace: newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net 1006877141 17834 194.208.82.199
(27 Nov 2001 16:05:41 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Nov 2001 16:05:41 GMT
X-Complaints-To: ab...@theplanet.net
<Addresses etc. deleted by Tavish>
<end>
> It would not surprise me to learn that Shiff is
>Nazihunter, but I doubt whether I could prove it.
<END of POST>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b5321312c82eec25?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: JMoutsShiff)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: ABD? ABD?
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <k7k1ctko79mud3e75...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-03-27 10:18:00 PST
In <tc1j2pn...@corp.supernews.com> in alt.revisionism, on Tue, 27
Mar 2001 17:22:33 -0000, johnny...@freedom.net wrote:
> In article <3ac0ca97$0$44535$45be...@newscene.com>,
> lurker...@hushmail.com says...
> >"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> >news:87g1ct0hrojka6oqk...@4ax.com...
> >> In <3ac0bee1$0$44557$45be...@newscene.com> in alt.revisionism,
> >> on 27 Mar 2001 10:28:02 -0600, "Lurker No More!"
> >> <lurker...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > <johnny...@freedom.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:tc1cov3...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >> > > ABD
> >> >
> >> > I can't wait until you're exposed, Nazihunter. You'll be in so
> >> > much shit it won't be funny. Well, maybe just a little. OK,
> >> > OK. A lot. LMAO!
> >>
> >> I do wish you people would keep up.
> >
> >Why's that?
>
> BECAUSE JOHNNIE, DESPITE ALL THE FLOWERING AND HIGH-MINDED RHETORIC
> ABOUT HIS ALLEGED HIGHER MORAL GROUND, HAS ESSENTIALLY PROVIDED
> SCOTTIE (AND OTHERS) WITH A BLUEPRINT ON WHO HE THINKS NAZIHUNTER
> IS...INCLUDING NAME, HOUSE LOCATION ETC. OF COURSE, MAY BE RIGHT,
> MAY BE WRONG...AND IF ITS WRONG, WELL...SO IT GOES.
Wow! Been taking David E. Michael pills? I don't do addresses.
I have identified Laurence Shiff as the man who used to post as
Marduk. And I'm right. David E. Michael was able to pick out the
name supposedly revealed to him by a clumsy private dick from a long
list of names of PhDs I provided. Is David E. Michael faking it? I
don't see how. He picked Shiff's name out with no prompting from me.
Therefore, Laurence Shiff was looking for David E. Michael's address
and was paying to find it. Marduk disappeared years ago. Why is
Laurence Shiff still here?
But I haven't provided any house location or et ceteras.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
<END OF POST>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fd6feedd636f2067?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: JMoutsShiff_2)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: OXFORD UNION SURRENDERS TO THE TRADITIONAL ENEMIES OF FREE
SPEECH!!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast, alt.revisionism, soc.culture.mideast,
soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.canada
Message-ID: <0f1tftog105fkbcac...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-05-13 07:16:05 PST
Between 1995 to 1998, a Laurence Shiff of Toronto, posting in usenet
as mar...@idirect.ca, posted the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of people he didn't like. He also dropped broad hints about
making harassing telephone calls.
After an absence of some months in 1998, he either returned using
anonymous remailers *or else* another person from the Toronto area
began to do the same sort of thing. Aside from anonymity, this
person showed another difference from Shiff's abuses: he was much
bolder in stating that he was indeed making harassing phonecalls.
After awhile, this anonymous abuser began to make death threats
against Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a complete moron from Texas.
<<The above should prove that John Morris is no fan of mine and that he is not a
groupie of mine BUT for a fact- John Morris believes in fair play and a level
playing field- hence he outed Larry Shiff as MARDUK and I proved that MARDUK and
NAZIHUNTER are one and the same and all are from Toronto, Ontario Canada! Doc
Tavish comment>>
Apparently, the threats were not limited to usenet but also included
obscene phone calls.
Latterly, the tactic has switched from the illegal to the annoying
taking the form of automated forged cancel messages. Many of you may
have seen the results in multiple reposts of the same canceled
messages.
What do I have to do with any of this? I merely cared enough to
track down this stalker. Even complete morons have the right to
speak. There is also a standing offer from me to share whatever
information I have at the time with responsible police authorities
acting on a complaint from one of the victims.
<END of POST>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6cf0f4e08f690df1?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NAZIHUNTERouted_5)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: David E. Michael's Perlious Existence(s) (was Re: It's
learning time.)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <ac7kbtoh4o58r6uk9...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-03-22 08:20:13 PST
"BTW, Laurence Shiff used to post as Marduk. I proved that already.
If you think Marduk is Nazihunter, then Shiff is your Nazihunter. I
think it is pretty suggestive that you got e-mail identifying Shiff
as someone who hire a private investigator trying to locate you, and
it strengthens the circumstantial connections between Marduk and
Nazihunter."
<END of POST>
As I showed above concerning what John posted above with these words: "Laurence
Shiff used to post as Marduk. I proved that already. If you think Marduk is
Nazihunter, then Shiff is your Nazihunter."
I showed above that NAZIHUNTER and MARDUK are one and the same:
(Archived locally as: ShiffHarassesKnolls) [Google link not given and Message ID
munged in effort to protect the Knolls' rights to privacy]
From: NAZIHUNTER <MAR...@SELECTOR.NET>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: A TWO FOR ONE DEAL: ONE BAT, TWO KNOLLS
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:25:07 GMT
Organization: the lazy workstation rarely defiles Robert, it floats Robette
instead
Lines: 62
Message-ID: <72734274684...@194.152.65.250>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 194-208-082-199.tele.net
X-Trace: newsreaderm1.core.theplanet.net 1006877141 17834 194.208.82.199
(27 Nov 2001 16:05:41 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Nov 2001 16:05:41 GMT
X-Complaints-To: ab...@theplanet.net
This post also shows using what John said above with these words:
"Between 1995 to 1998, a Laurence Shiff of Toronto, posting in usenet
as mar...@idirect.ca, posted the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of people he didn't like. He also dropped broad hints about
making harassing telephone calls." Notice the <mar...@idirect.ca>?
Here is Shiff, himself, linking his MARDUK nym to his NAZIHUNTER nym:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.what.the.hell/msg/9fbbec9adf433120?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_1)
Author: We' (NaziHunter)
Email: We'llfi...@anywhere.com
Date: 1996/03/23
Forums: alt.what.the.hell
Message-ID:
<ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>
x-client-port: 1512
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In article <ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.what.the.hell/msg/5b55de356c5a4db6?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NaziHunter_B)
mar...@idirect.com says...
>
>test
>
teststststst
~~End of Archive~~
Here is the GOOGLE link and the original format of the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.what.the.hell/msg/9fbbec9adf433120?dmode=source
From: We'llfi...@anywhere.com (NaziHunter)
Subject: Re: test
Date: 1996/03/23
Message-ID: <ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>#1/1
x-nntp-posting-host: hopenet13.idirect.com
references: <ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>
content-type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
x-client-port: 1512
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: ma...@bishxx.com
newsgroups: alt.what.the.hell
In article <ragnaroek1996Ma...@news2.compulink.com>,
mar...@idirect.com says...
>
>test
>
teststststst
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Does anyone have any doubt that Laurence B. Shiff is MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER in
light of all the proof above?
Kaspu (KASPU-DOM)
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Domain Name: KASPU.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Shiff, Laurence (LS5339) sh...@BABYLON.TO
His Kaspu.Com e-mail address is: sh...@kaspu.com
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b5321312c82eec25?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: JMoutsShiff)
>From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
>Subject: Re: ABD? ABD?
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>Message-ID: <k7k1ctko79mud3e75...@4ax.com>
>Date: 2001-03-27 10:18:00 PST
[...]
>I have identified Laurence Shiff as the man who used to post as
>Marduk. And I'm right. David E. Michael was able to pick out the
>name supposedly revealed to him by a clumsy private dick from a long
>list of names of PhDs I provided. Is David E. Michael faking it? I
>don't see how. He picked Shiff's name out with no prompting from me.
> Therefore, Laurence Shiff was looking for David E. Michael's address
>and was paying to find it...
>
><END of POST>
New material concerning the above statement: "I have identified Laurence Shiff
as the man who used to post as Marduk. And I'm right. David E. Michael was
able to pick out the name supposedly revealed to him by a clumsy private dick
from a long list of names of PhDs I provided. Is David E. Michael faking it? I
don't see how. He picked Shiff's name out with no prompting from me. Therefore,
Laurence Shiff was looking for David E. Michael's address and was paying to find
it."
Here you are Laurence taunting me about that letter from Detective Burchell:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/3c5ed866327fc83c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffBurchellTaunt)
Old link from 2001 which still works:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vfJf6.194659%24JT5.7152194%40news20.bellglobal.com&output=gplain
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: HEY SCOTTIE: YOU GET THAT CONFIRMATION YET ON MY PERSONAL INFO??
From: mar...@idirect.ca (NAZIHUNTER)
Organization: Assyrians and Babylonians "R" Us
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <vfJf6.194659$JT5.7...@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 02:24:27 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.229.66.152
X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 981426267 64.229.66.152 (Mon, 05 Feb 2001
21:24:27 EST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:24:27 EST
SNICKER....HAS BURCHELL REPLIED TO YOUR PATHETIC INQUIRY, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF
LYMPHATIC OBESITY?
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
Everyone notice the:
From: mar...@idirect.ca (NAZIHUNTER)
Organization: Assyrians and Babylonians "R" Us
and that the dialup is a Toronto based ISP?
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.229.66.152 renders as using GEEKTOOLS
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=NETBLK-BELLCANADA-5&targetnic=whois.arin.net
Bell Nexxia (NETBLK-BELLCANADA-5)
350-181 Bay St.
Toronto, ON M5J-2T3
CA
Netname: BELLCANADA-5
Netblock: 64.228.0.0 - 64.231.255.255
<end>
Here is what David Michael posted, as mentioned by John Morris above, concerning
Larry Shiff hiring a detective to get David Michael's address and telephone
number:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/405685706ff9469a?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: DEM_Burchell)
From: "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
References: <d953939a8414917c...@anon.xg.nu>
<u01a7t8eeovc6ncfo...@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: NEW NAZIHUNTER WEB PAGE
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:10:45 -0000
Message-ID: <3a754...@news.newsfeeds.com>
<snip>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear Mr Shiff,
Thank you for your enquiry. Our fee will be £ 135.00 on a no trace, no fee
basis. We will require all the information you have regarding Dr Michael and
we will also require a physical address and telephone number for you.
Once we have located his current address ( normally within 48 hours) we will
telephone you to confirm and once we have received our fee, either by direct
transfer or cheque, we will provide our report.
We look forward to hearing from you shortly.
Kind regards
Timothy Burchell
Global Investigation Service
www.ukprivateinvestigators.com
Tel: 0044 1883 717 955
Voicemail: 0044 702 116 5845
US Fax: (253) 736 7423
ICQ# 52653461
Mob: 0044 7887 481319
UK Toll Free: 0800 980 2792
<end quote>
David
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
What does the above reveal? Laurence B. Shiff seeks to get the personal info on
yet another person so he may post it and harass yet another person!
Once again here is John Morris:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fd6feedd636f2067?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: JMoutsShiff_2)
From: John Morris (John....@UAlberta.CA)
Subject: Re: OXFORD UNION SURRENDERS TO THE TRADITIONAL ENEMIES OF FREE
SPEECH!!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast, alt.revisionism, soc.culture.mideast,
soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.canada
Message-ID: <0f1tftog105fkbcac...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-05-13 07:16:05 PST
Between 1995 to 1998, a Laurence Shiff of Toronto, posting in usenet
as mar...@idirect.ca, posted the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of people he didn't like. He also dropped broad hints about
making harassing telephone calls.
After an absence of some months in 1998, he either returned using
anonymous remailers *or else* another person from the Toronto area
began to do the same sort of thing. Aside from anonymity, this
person showed another difference from Shiff's abuses: he was much
bolder in stating that he was indeed making harassing phonecalls.....
<END of POST>
BTW for the records Laurence B. Shiff as NAZIHUNTER likes making death threats
too!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2826c9be356acfa5?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffThreatFeb7)
From: mar...@idirect.com (NAZIHUNTER)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: HERE'S A THOUGHT: MEET SCOTTY ON FEB. 7
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:32:47 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Assyrians "R" Us
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <95klae$2m7d$1...@news.tht.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
X-Trace: news.tht.net 981325967 88301 216.126.78.61 (4 Feb 2001 22:32:47 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
ASSUMING THAT THW SHIT-ASSED NARCOLEPTIC OBESE DWARF KNOWS HOW TO NAVIGATE
BEYOND THE 25 FT RANGE OF HIS MOTHER'S LEASH, ONE HOPES THAT HE CAN ATTEND HIS
DAMAGES HEARING ON FEB 7 IN ALLENTOWN. THATS THE DAY SCOTTY LOSES HIS RENTED
STY.
SO LETS ALL MEET HIM...WITH BASEBALL BATS...
I'LL BE THERE, LETS SEE IF YOU CAN PICK ME OUT OF THE CROWD
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
Notice the pertinent info? From: mar...@idirect.com (NAZIHUNTER)
I filed a formal complaint three times with X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
and not one thing was done! Why? Dr. Shiff is SCRAPPY'S (Marc Fournier's boss!)
Here is SCRAPPY aka Marc Fournier showing he knows who Dr. Shiff is in his dodge
to duck responsibility and why on Earth would SCRAPPY be CCing Nizkor's Ken
McVay about Dr. Shiff harassing people? Also notice that Shiff's THT.NET
provides Ken McVay and his Nizkor with bandwidth!
Subject: CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of THT.NET
and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER and Son of J Richard Shiff of Toronto
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism, soc.history, soc.culture.jewish
Message-ID: <8s2vdt8i7t6c9iqno...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-04-19 19:14:13 PST
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC), <9bntjr$2bka$1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>Scott Bradbury's a classic example of the value of free speech. Give him
>a platform and a microphone, and he'll shoot himself (and everything
>he stands for) in the foot within 5 minutes.
You are a classic example of free speech too McVay. You are an ASSOCIATE of a
person who has canceled every post I have made since mid March, you are funded
by B'nai Brith which seeks to imprison people for saying the wrong things...
[...]
>Such are the proponents of "Holocaust denial."
Where have I denied the Holocaust liar? Care to show one post or archive where I
denied it? Why do you have to resort to lies Ken?
BTW why did Scrappy at THT.NET e-mail you about all the forged cancels your pal
Shiff is doing to Matt Giwer and myself? Also why would Scrappy act like he did
not know Shiff and days later he e-mails Matt Giwer and myself that he did not
know the e-mail address of "Dr. Shiff"? Seems strange that Scrappy would act
like he didn't know Shiff and then later refer to him as Dr. Shiff!
Now quit being a coward McVay and answer why Scrappy e-mailed you about the
harassment Giwer and I are experiencing? Looks conspiratorial to me.
Everyone look at this!
X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs
[...]
To: Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabay.rr.com>
<end>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
It is no secret that Laurence B. Shiff was/is a major donor and supporter of Ken
McVay and his Nizkor as proven here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d14560d3d59515ff?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVay_Nazihunter_1)
Subject: Re: Let's play "find the nazihunter"
Date: 12/20/1999
Author: Kenneth McVay OBC <kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org>
Message-ID: <83lp0j$17ua$1...@news.tht.net>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=1&selm=83lp0j%2417ua%241%40news.tht.net&filter=0
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=83k890%2429jn%241%40news.tht.net&filter=0
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=3&selm=83kmrv%242s7o%241%40news.tht.net&filter=0
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=4&selm=83kbt3%242e3e%241%40news.tht.net&filter=0
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=5&selm=83kak3%242cis%241%40news.tht.net&filter=0
[...]
<<Doc Tavish comment April 6, 2001: See the tie between Nizkor and
[...]
Also see:
Need I say more other than criminal conspiracy between Nizkor (Ken McVay) and
his master and donor Laurence B. Shiff aka MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER?
BTW for proof that Laurence B. Shiff posts bogus child porn ads to frame
innocent people see this post:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cce7e2511d5e93b0?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffBogusChildPornAds)
From: Bubba McBeevee (mcbeevee@msie_2001.com)
Subject: Answering Sara's False Accusations Via a Proxy and Showing How I have
Been Criminally Harassed....
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <4193ft8t1g0g10a2b...@4ax.com>
Date: 2001-05-03 12:53:03 PST
Compare the exact bogus child porn ad perpetrated against me to another victim
of Laurence B. Shiff. The bogus child porn ads are word for word except for the
names!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.football.pro.miami-dolphins/msg/55ad6839e369413c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: ShiffBogusChildPornAds_2)
Message-ID: <A61B018FE0....@ikelm.gov>
From: litt...@fhyotehfck.mil
Subject: Do you love teenie weenies?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:59:02 GMT
The above victim was the person behind "Guido the Resurrector" who restored all
of my posts Laurence B. Shiff forged canceled and for doing such Shiff forged
child porn ads in his identity in order to frame him as well. Howard has long
since moved since the above was posted.
For the record all instances of the bogus child porn ads have been investigated
and are on file with American Federal authorities and if you all read of my
account of Laurence B. Shiff's abuse you will see my letters etc. to law
enforcement. For a fact Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto, Ontario Canada is a
criminal who has escaped justice for years. The Feds here in America have no
jurisdiction in Canada BUT sooner or later Laurence B. Shiff, son of York
University's J Richard Shiff, will get what he deserves!
If advertising child porn is a punishable crime then is not forging an
advertisement for child porn in another person's identity a crime? Afterall
Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto, Ontario tried to frame myself and another person!
All on file with my local law enforcement which is detailed in the post bearing
this Message ID: 4193ft8t1g0g10a2b...@4ax.com or this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cce7e2511d5e93b0?fwc=1
Read for yourselves about the filthy lying criminal who inhabits your province
and city! REMEMBER: LAURENCE B. SHIFF CRIMINALLY HARASSES PEOPLE!
Doc Tavish
mo...@post.com
sci.skeptic??
Sara Salzman
mo...@post.com wrote:
> Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
> sci.skeptic??
He is Robert Scott Bradbury of Texas. He is a lonely old man with no
friends or family, who has nothing better to do with his life than to
sit and screed on Usenet.
Here's a brief introduction to him. There's a Message-ID for each of
these little gems.
Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
Care to show what I deleted you fat stupid lying piece of pig fat?
Message-ID: <8pasi0leri5cio525...@4ax.com>
Libel is grounds if Leon is telling his bitch pig daughter such vile
stuff and then having it made public!
Message-ID: <0ciktv8tgf9mkah5a...@4ax.com>
Why don't you accept my challenge you pernicious little shit?
Message-ID: <s012uvg6v38c9ont7...@4ax.com>
Why don't you kill yourself BUT take out two more of your fellow shits
before you do!
Message-ID: <uara10h2b539epgj0...@4ax.com>
Now go have sex with her Urinal!
Message-ID: <opeeb0tm5hqat8b46...@4ax.com>
It is your kind who are the laughoing staocks and that is why all of you
are so bitter!
Message-ID: <s8ft10hi1l547f0fo...@4ax.com>
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF PULP MAN!!
Message-ID: <rpul00tk1ajl83bjl...@4ax.com>
Now who is the lair?
Message-ID: <tso010h6vh9nq6vlf...@4ax.com>
Whois the imbecile now you pea brain!?
Message-ID: <imef10h5ki6tt4gdj...@4ax.com>
I AM STARTING TO CROSS POST MY REPLIES TO OTHER NEWS GROUPS TO GREATLY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET YOUR TRAVELING COMPANION AND OTHER ACCOMPLICES TO
STOP!! I HAVE A BIG LIST OF NEO-NAZI GROUPS I HAVE SEARCHED FOR THAT I
WILL BE GLAD TO CROSS POST TO!
Message-ID: <hd50201eiqr68doif...@4ax.com>
I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE SHIT!!
Message-ID: <djn7201t7f8vtcoe9...@4ax.com>
GET THAT INTO YOUR HARD HEAD YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!
Message-ID: <7877iv8u1t59ffhh0...@4ax.com>
I KEEP TELLING YOU BUT YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!! AS LONG AS YOUR
PALS KEEP POSTING WHERE I LIVE THEN I WILL KEEP POSTING WHERE THE TWO
SHITS LIVE WHO MADE THE INFO AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!! LIVE WITH
IT PIG!!
Message-ID: bdfn30hqo2nvdmooe...@4ax.com
So what? You are only miffed because you are a homo!
Message-ID: <c04o9059bcs57auqf...@4ax.com>
You were Yale's star witness so you should get him to re-file and both
of you come to my county and repeat your libelous perjurious lies you
fat evil slob and see how quick you get some jail time!
Message-ID: <fn4i90t6ki1amgt48...@4ax.com>
Implying I have a mental defect is all you have isn't is wh*re?
Message-ID: <iksmgvgbh22ro8i32...@4ax.com>
You like making with the FAT insults don't you KIKE?
Message-ID: <r70itvgvqp0hfrn0n...@4ax.com>
You must be referring to Yale "The Whale" Edeiken!
Message-ID: <mrsdrvkn3nhc6aql4...@4ax.com>
The whale is Yale as in Yale The Whale!
Message-ID: <vegarvsmooa86m0be...@4ax.com>
Well come to my jurisdiction and make your same accusations and get your
mentor to repeat his and we will see how quick you two become jailbirds.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP YOU LYING WH*RE!!
Message-ID: <k6e4hv00ma0udrsmn...@4ax.com>
GET THIS INTO YOUR HARD HEAD YOU GOD DAMNED EVIL WH*RE-- EACH AND EVERY
TIME ONE OF YOUR FELLOW THUGS POSTS WHERE I LIVE THEN I WILL POST WHERE
YOU AND YALE LIVE!! YOU CAN COUNT ON IT WH*RE!!
Message-ID: td1vgvsiogaet6hch...@4ax.com
Perhaps if I post where your father lives then maybe you will be
persuaded!!!
Message-ID: <b3cefv44ve7luh5et...@4ax.com>
Subject yourself to my jurisdiction and you will be given a dose of
reality! MAKE MY DAY!! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
Message-ID: <f5r5hv092109l8gv1...@4ax.com>
You provide a starting point for more hatrassmenmt-- that's the big deal
you bastard!
Message-ID: <pg3hgv4gln3s948ct...@4ax.com>
Re-read what you said above and see who is the fucking idiot!
Message-ID: <f9upgvgg9k4kdo031...@4ax.com>
Go smoke some crack with yo gangstas.
Message-ID: <ptltgv48v6a267etp...@4ax.com>
Why don't you come to my jurisdiction and file a complaint
Message-ID: <r8o9hv0p0gtd8qlfk...@4ax.com>
Don't hold your breath wh*re. If you want to press charges or litigate
come to my town and mind you by subjecting yourself to the legal system
of my jurisdiction I will be able to resolve some old matters myself.
Message-ID: <gj1bhv8m41a09nj79...@4ax.com>
Just like a sicko to deny their words were meant to intimidate!
Message-ID: <io49iv43v2k4fgbp0...@4ax.com>
He won't be laughing when he sees the documents I have to present! You
are going to get a royal deep sixing pig!
Message-ID: <4bgbivci6b1h7nrc0...@4ax.com>
That is your address dickhead and I promise you this- each and very god
damned time you post where I live I will do likewise and I will also
post where Yale and Sara live too because they are the ones who made my
confidential info public in the first place! If you don't like it then
report me to my DA you hypocritical mother fucker!
Message-ID: <7nkdivsuqb91tcvjn...@4ax.com>
My DA is NOT interested in your accusations! He tries criminal cases in
my jurisdiction. He won't accept your affidavit as being true without
proof of the accusations. If you submitted the above to him then you are
hanging yourself you evil lying pig!
Message-ID: <ncgiivg9a3mekr98t...@4ax.com>
If you had read what I lp;osted you would have known you stupid Pharisee!
Message-ID: <3ejskvkagkhk5edam...@4ax.com>
WHY DO YOU KEEP LEAVING THIS OUT YOU RETARD?
Message-ID: <9lirkv027hv40gjd6...@4ax.com>
You're too stupid to see how your glaring hypocrisy has been exposed!
Message-ID: <20komvglbofvsto4f...@4ax.com>
Nope I am not a hypocrite for posting Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Literary
Works seeing how those only make up a very small percentage of my
postings BUT so far you hitting a perfect 100%!
Message-ID: <db08nvgq6p68iv5m5...@4ax.com>
What do you SCOOP? POOP?
Message-ID: cd4mnv4c7j36ncg53...@4ax.com
I proved nothing other than how you lie, smear, libel, and perjure
yourself you disgusting pig!
Message-ID: <5ro6409oob68bcf3d...@4ax.com>
You are a vile repulsive pig who is a liar, a perjurer, and a hypocrite!
YOU WON"T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MENTALLY ILL!!
Message-ID: <74q550l2prd9158m9...@4ax.com>
Matt Giwer
> In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
> Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>
>
> [850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
>
> And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
> of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
> has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>
> THAT is a fact.
>
> Sara
>
Hi there, fatbroad. Long time no ridicule. Still giving fisting lessons? That Pennsylvania lawyer
who pulled a gun on a witness in court still your subbie?
--
Wiping Palestine off the map was and is genocidal slaughter.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 3554
nizkor http://www.giwersworld.org/nizkook/nizkook.phtml
Mission Accomplished http://www.giwersworld.org/opinion/mission.phtml a12
Matt Giwer
The fact is he uses his equity position in Bell Canada to get the phone numbers meaning BC is
legitimately included in the lawsuit to increase the take.
--
Israel does not recognize Israeli nationality. Why should anyone else?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 3572
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-E4934D...@news.giganews.com> Sara D. Salzman of Colorado
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> mo...@post.com wrote:
Another Laurence B. Shiff nym perhaps? If not "ITS" a person who condones such
criminal behavior never the less! You have a real large posting history of just
three posts at GOOGLE too!
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=mo...@post.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=13&as_maxm=2&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Searched all groups Results 1 - 3 of 3 for author:mo...@post.com (0.11
seconds)
You posted on January 31, 2006, February 1, 2006 and for the third time with the
uninformed post you just made to which liar and perjurer Sara Salzman replied
to. I guess you approve of liars and perjurers as well!
~~Sara Salzman's "CPS" Affidavit Perjury Documented~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddf877bf49b153c2?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality Revealed.
Message-ID: <o3vfe1tnijjcpqq44...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jul 2005 22:18:07 GMT
Sara Salzman's poor damage control and diversion countered with:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6ffc6ccf93e09d37?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality
Revealed.
Message-ID: <9qphe1ttfrdjeu9hs...@4ax.com>
References: <o3vfe1tnijjcpqq44...@4ax.com>
<catamont-18678C...@news.giganews.com>
Date: 28 Jul 2005 14:18:58 GMT
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Perjury is also a criminal offense which makes Sara a criminal by definition!
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Overview of noun perjurer
The noun perjurer has 1 sense (no senses from tagged texts)
perjurer, false witness -- (a person who deliberately gives false testimony)
Coordinate Terms (sisters) of noun perjurer
storyteller, fibber, fabricator -- (someone who tells lies)
liar, prevaricator -- (a person who has lied or who lies repeatedly)
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>> Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
>> sci.skeptic??
>
>He is Robert Scott Bradbury of Texas. He is a lonely old man with no
>friends or family, who has nothing better to do with his life than to
>sit and screed on Usenet.
You have to make up stuff to hurl your insults and I show the facts tha5t your
fellow Yid is a criminal who harasses people.
>Here's a brief introduction to him. There's a Message-ID for each of
>these little gems.
Too bad you don't show what elicited my responses in the first place but you
being the dishonest swine that you are we all know that you are reduced to out
of context sound bites.
>Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
As usual you trot out the out of context quotes just as McVay trots out the
failed lawsuit against me every time I back you two liars into a corner by
exposing your lies OR the criminal acts of your associates!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: <msohq1ltuiv3fdvpr...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
Your quoting me out of context is lying because you don't show the other side of
a two way exchange and what the person had done to me which elicited my remarks
you quote out of context. Just so the lurkers may get a better handle on what a
deceiver you are I will show them how to look up what you continually quote out
off context below!!
Attention lurkers to see the rest of the story as Paul Harvey would say just go
to this link: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and at the bottom
you will see a field which shows: "Message ID Lookup the message with message
ID _______________________________________________
(Example: moderated-ng-f...@swcp.com)" And in that window you
need only to Copy N Paste the Message IDs Sara provided below to get an insight
to her deceit.
Her first Message ID is i73hfvcs93cff63fu...@4ax.com which returns
this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/b550c199a77357d5
And everyone read the text in true context and see what a deceitful person Sara
Salzman truly is! There is a mountain of difference between the in context post
I made and what Sara presents as smear!!!
>Scott Bradbury's Obsession with "Fisting"
>
>How am I obsessed with "fisting" just by posting what your fellow Jewish
>filth posted about her fisting herself?
>Message-ID: i73hfvcs93cff63fu...@4ax.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tavish
~~Sara Salzman = (Crack)Pot Who Called the Kettle Black~~
TinyURL to GOOGLE search: http://tinyurl.com/dpwnu
(Archived locally as: Pot_Kettle_Black_Hypocrisy)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 100 of 621 for "Idiot"
author:cata...@concentric.net
Sample Returns:
Irving: not only an idiot -- but downright crazy?
alt.revisionism - Oct 16 2004, 7:42 pm by Sara Salzman
R. Scott Bradbury - Moronic Idiot
alt.revisionism - May 5 2004, 1:12 pm by Sara Salzman
Bradbury - a Moron or an Idiot?
alt.revisionism - Dec 4 2005, 9:54 am by Sara Salzman
Blandish to world: I'm an idiot.
alt.revisionism - Jun 26 2005, 12:03 am by Sara Salzman
Why Kurt Knoll is an idiot
can.general - Mar 9 2005, 9:05 pm by Sara Salzman
<End of Sample Returns>
My honest observations:
Funny thing that a self confessed mental retard who squeezed out not one BUT two
"Village Idiots" would be referring to other people as idiots! Sara's children
were not born twins either and they had separate births years apart from one
another. The odds of parents having one "mentally challenged" offspring is
minuscule BUT for the same parents to have two "mentally challenged" offspring
birthed to them is astronomical and as such speaks volumes of the parents'
lifestyles and genetics. Photos of the "Mother Village Idiot":
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_2.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
Sara's children can't be held accountable for the losers they have as father and
mother and they are victims of a perverted S&M Bondage Lifestyle as well as drug
abuse in the home environment all detailed in the archive below:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/345c6d04bdaa93e4?fwc=1
Subject: Did Sara "The Fist" Salzman's S&M/Drug HomeLife Result in Two "GIFTED"
Children? I.E. Genetics/Lifestyles? V2.0
Message-ID: <v78mt1def3trm00k8...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 08:50:39 GMT
------------------------------
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
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Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
(Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2)
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c1ab5163934419f4?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Lies about her Being a Crackpot As Well as Other Lies
V2.0 U_0121 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:35:11 -0600
Message-ID: <qok5t1tf5hev7f7m6...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabay.REMover.rr.com> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
> > In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
> > Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
> >
> > And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
> > of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
> > has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
> >
> > THAT is a fact.
> >
> > Sara
> >
>
> Hi there, fatbroad. Long time no ridicule. Still giving fisting lessons?
> That Pennsylvania lawyer
> who pulled a gun on a witness in court still your subbie?
Still swigging the Sterno, eh, Mr. Giwer?
Matt Giwer
> In article <aN7If.17$_c...@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabay.REMover.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Sara Salzman wrote:
>>
>>>In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
>>> Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>[850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
>>>
>>>And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
>>>of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
>>>has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>>>
>>>THAT is a fact.
>>>
>>>Sara
>>>
>>
>> Hi there, fatbroad. Long time no ridicule. Still giving fisting lessons?
>>That Pennsylvania lawyer
>>who pulled a gun on a witness in court still your subbie?
>
>
> Still swigging the Sterno, eh, Mr. Giwer?
Still fisting your subbie?
Is it true he was disbarred and that is why you moved out west?
--
Bush wants laws against human-animal hybrids. Does he not know mad
scientists do not obey laws? What would T'Ruth and C'Mel say?
-- The Iron Webmaster, 3574
nizkor http://www.giwersworld.org/nizkook/nizkook.phtml
Larry Shiff http://www.giwersworld.org/computers/newsagent.phtml a8
The Chief Instigator
>In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
> Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>[850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
>And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
>of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
>has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>THAT is a fact.
Of course, that ignores the "fact" that Fatbury is _special_.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Hartford 4, Houston 3 (February 11)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, February 15 at Cleveland, 6:05
The Chief Instigator
>Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
>sci.skeptic??
Robert Scott Bradbury, the running joke of Bellville, Texas (where he lives).
Ben Cramer
"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-D3E78F...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
> Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>
>
> [850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
>
> And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
> of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
> has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>
> THAT is a fact.
>
> Sara
Be that as it may. Do you believe Schiff is this "Nazi Hunter" creep?
I too, have been receiving rather nasty personal emails, all handed to the
authorities, I might add.
Sara Salzman
"Be that as it may," Mr. Bradbury set out to slander and harass a
completely innocent man who has, to my knowledge, never been involved in
alt.revisionism, and he cross-posted information about Mr. Frame to
"white power" newsgroups, encouraging others to harass him.
"Be that as it may," that is a disgusting and vile thing.
As to Mr. Schiff, it sounds like he might have been Nazihunter, and if
so, he deserves whatever he gets.
It was before your time here, Mr. Cramer, but the person most
responsible for "outing" Nazihunter was John Morris. He -- and virtually
everyone else -- was disgusted and offended by Nazihunter's tactics. I
don't know of anyone in this newsgroup I respect who didn't condemn
Nazihunter for his actions.
On the other hand, I don't see anyone -- you included -- on the Denier
side who has ever condemned the people who sent me death threats, who
continue to post and forge slanderous statements about me or my
92-year-old father or my children. My Bradbury, for instance, who
believes that "gifted" means "retarded."
For the record, Mr. Cramer, my son is 18 and will graduate from college
this spring. My daughter is 14, and is on the honor roll with a 4.0
grade point average, and is a junior Olympics competitor in archery and
riflery. That doesn't stop Mr. Bradbury and his pals from attacking two
innocent children, and I have certainly never heard a single word from
any other Denier regarding the bullshit Mr. Bradbury spews.
You're not the only person in this newsgroup who has received phone
calls, or death threats, or worse. And the majority have been directed
not to you or yours, but to innocent people who do not even contribute
to this sewer called alt.revisionism.
As I have since the beginning, I condemn Nazihunter and his tactics.
Will you publicly condemn those who use the same tactics against "the
other side"?
Ben Cramer
I have.
mo...@post.com
Sara Salzman wrote:
> In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> mo...@post.com wrote:
>
> > Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
> > sci.skeptic??
>
> He is Robert Scott Bradbury of Texas. He is a lonely old man with no
> friends or family, who has nothing better to do with his life than to
> sit and screed on Usenet.
>
> Here's a brief introduction to him. There's a Message-ID for each of
> these little gems.
>
Thanks. He seems a sort of out-house-Hitler on crack.
mo...@post.com
Ward Cleaver wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:20:13 -0700,
> <catamont-E4934D...@news.giganews.com> Sara D. Salzman of Colorado
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> > mo...@post.com wrote:
>
> Another Laurence B. Shiff nym perhaps? If not "ITS" a person who condones such
> criminal behavior never the less! You have a real large posting history of just
> three posts at GOOGLE too!
>
On the basis of three posts that he sees, Cleaver or Bradburymanages to
print of me as Laurence B. Shiff, whoever he is and accuse me of
condoning criminal behavior.
Cleaver is an ostrich who assumes that what he does not see does not
exist and then tells the world. I've far more than three posts. But
then Cleaver doesn't seem to be able to read very well and so may not
understand about different ISPS and different accounts.
Or maybe he lies through his teeth.
Ward Cleaver
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>mo...@post.com writes:
>
>>Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
>>sci.skeptic??
Trying out a new NYM now Laurence?
>Robert Scott Bradbury, the running joke of Xxxxxx, Xxxxx (where he lives).
Where I live is irrelevant you stupid shite and in keeping my policy:
What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior
of posting where people live --> http://tinyurl.com/dsns7
Seeing how where I live keeps being brought up I will post where the unethical
and Publicly Censured and now INACTIVE former attorney lives who made the info
public in the first place:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. I am also being
stalked by psychotics such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. FOR A FACT it was Yale F.
Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info from my
ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice under the
Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because
of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
YALE F. EDEIKEN
885 COLD SPRING ROAD; APARTMENT 2
ALLENTOWN, PA 18103
610-435-9820
<Source: Pennsylvania State Attorney Registration>
If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out then he
should encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my privacy!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Special Note: The shyster named above issued a forged subpoena on my ISP to get
my address and telephone number and then he criminally made it available to
thugs such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. Proof that such an act was done to me may be
read here: Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?.. Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
IOW Patrick and others are accomplices to another criminal!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your thug antics don't divert from the fact that the schitz you side with are
criminal elements!
I.E.
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
--------------------------------------
Supplemental information to the above:
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/3c63c1b64e026226?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:39:21 GMT
(Subject Title: "CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of
THT.NET and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER and Son of J Richard Shiff of Toronto")
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/39e576051e4bfd69?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <hqs1v1dqjv76mhd38...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:57:59 GMT
(Subject Title: "Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People")
--------------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/bb30dd58cbc603d?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <33s1v11c21u1psdae...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:55:44 GMT
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Special Note: In the above archive (as well as all the others) when you see such
as: "Cleaver <Ward_Clea...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:"
^^^
Just click on the three dots and you will be taken to a screen where you can see
the full post with all Message IDs and e-mail addresses fully intact.
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=0bb30dd58cbc603d&_done=/group/sci.skeptic/msg/bb30dd58cbc603d
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/834c29d6b2fadf04?fwc=1
Subject: Myth I Posted as NAZIHUNTER and Posted Yale F. Edeiken's Family Info
DEBUNKED For the Evil Defamation It Is. V1.0
Message-ID: <70pit1l70omnoueno...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:36:13 GMT
------------------------------
LIVE WITH IT YOU LOSER!!
Tavish
Patrick Keenan
news:1139949008.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Or maybe, his delusions sometimes overcome his reason.
-pk
Ward Cleaver
<43f1897f$0$20983$6d36...@taz.nntpserver.com> "Ben Cramer"
<[remove]bencr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szk1wy6...@fnord.io.com...
>> mo...@post.com writes:
>>
>>>Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his off topic posts to
>>>sci.skeptic??
Can't stand this can you?
<START/QUOTE>
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500, <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
>Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
>http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
>(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
>
>Privacy by Todd Brendan Fahey
>February 13, 2006
[...]
>James Hall publishes as "SARTRE" throughout the Web. Perhaps the most
>prolific right-wing columnist on the 'net, he keeps to himself in
>private life. Long retired as a political strategist, Hall is no
>longer a believer in organized politics--though very much still a
>believer in and spokesman for Jeffersonian anti-federalist, limited
>government ideology.
>
>And so he was surprised to answer his unlisted phone number on January
>30th, to the question that was asked three times in succession: "Is
>this SARTRE?" (His response each time: "Who is calling?"). Finally,
>the caller shouted, "We know who you are!", followed by a death threat
>that he has divulged only to the New York state police department in
>his area, which he alerted immediately.
>
>Says Hall, "No one calls for Sartre on my home phone number."
>
>The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
>number (416-785-4574) owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh
>Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA. Friends assisted Hall in some
>Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer of the Kaspu
>Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
>Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting
>threats from, and two of my other writers..."
>
>Two weeks before the threat received by James Hall, fellow Rense.com
>writer Kurt Nimmo closed down his blog entirely, citing an inability
>to reconcile death threats received, his publishing life and the
>safety of his family ("Zionist Death Threats: Nimmo Closes Down Blog,"
>http://www.rense.com/general69/goned.htm).
>
>Writes Nimmo:
>
>"The primary reason I have decided to stop posting the blog has to do
>with threats. I have received many of them, including death threats.
>Usually, I am able to brush aside threats, since most are not of a
>serious nature, but lately I have received several that are not to be
>taken lightly, especially considering the fact somebody has taken the
>liberty to post my address and telephone number (information easily
>attained from the domain registry) in various places on the internet.
>
>First and foremost, I have a responsibility to my family and posting
>political commentary obviously comes in a distant second."
>
>On February 2, Rense.com writer Jim Mortellaro received calls from the
>same Toronto, Canada phone number: "Beginning three days ago, two more
>so-called 'men' began their tirade on this writer. Like the first
>person, they informed me that I was a Rense supporter and that makes
>me an anti-Semite. Me. Of all people, with a Jewish side to our family
>in which 2.15% survived the camps. That would be two out of 93 human
>beings. You picked the wrong person, guys. ...I now have his name and
>address. The man lives in Toronto.
<<Tavish comment: That is not one, not two, BUT three people who received death
threats from Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto, Ontario Canada and yet you all want
to ignore such criminal acts!!! I bet if a non-Jew were doing the same to Jews
you would not be so dismissive in your attitudes. You would want the perpetrator
tried for "Hate Crimes" with enhanced sentencing because of being a crime of
hate!>>
<STOP/QUOTE>
>> Robert Scott Bradbury, the running joke of Xxxxx, Xxxxx (where he
>> lives).
What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior
of posting where people live --> http://tinyurl.com/dsns7
>If you thought that, for one minute, you'd not be so damned uppity and
>defensive.
Ben you MUST stop re-posting their denying me my right to privacy. You also did
not delete my address etc. from that forged child porn ad the vermin posted to
smear me and to try to have me investigated again. I am not mad at you but when
you repeat the info they give out in order to harass me then you are aiding and
abetting my enemies who are also your enemies! I never re-post the info on
others in my replies to our mutual foes that they had targeted. Think about it!
If someone had done such to you would you want me to reply to them and leave the
stalker info intact?
The Yids like to post where people live who expose their lies and their crimes
and what relevance does it have as to where I live anyway? The topic is Laurence
B. Shiff's criminal death threats and harassing people (I am one who has been
repeatedly harassed by that bastard) and not where I live and what sort of
dwelling I live in or whether or not I am married (all of which they like to
throw in as a diversion) is relevant.
BTW always restore the newsgroups originally posted to because Patrick and Sara
like reducing exposure of facts. They now have the post only going to
alt.revisionism and I want to expose Shiff's criminal acts to the original news
groups which were: "alt.revisionism,can.general,tor.general,ont.general,
can.politics,soc.history.what-if,sci.skeptic" All the places where Laurence B.
Shiff has been known to infest and the City and Province in Canada where the Net
Terrorist lives.
Here is what is relevant:
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
Tavish
~~Arthur J. Tandy = Typical Thug Yid Like His Other Yids - VIOLENT~~
Ward Cleaver
<1139949008.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> mo...@post.com wrote:
>
>Ward Cleaver wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:20:13 -0700,
>> <catamont-E4934D...@news.giganews.com> Sara D. Salzman of Colorado
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>> > mo...@post.com wrote:
>>
>> Another Laurence B. Shiff nym perhaps? If not "ITS" a person who condones such
>> criminal behavior never the less! You have a real large posting history of just
>> three posts at GOOGLE too!
>>
>
>On the basis of three posts that he sees, Cleaver or Bradbury manages to
>print of me as Laurence B. Shiff, whoever he is and accuse me of
>condoning criminal behavior.
You certainly took issue that I exposed such criminal acts to the news groups
Shiff has been known to infest!
>Cleaver is an ostrich who assumes that what he does not see does not
>exist and then tells the world. I've far more than three posts.
That is a lie and as "mo...@post.com" you are on record as:
<start/quote>
>On 13 Feb 2006 13:51:00 -0800, In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> mo...@post.com wrote:
>
>Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
>sci.skeptic??
Another Laurence B. Shiff nym perhaps? If not "ITS" a person who condones such
criminal behavior never the less! You have a real large posting history of just
three posts at GOOGLE too!
Searched all groups Results 1 - 3 of 3 for author:mo...@post.com (0.11
seconds)
You posted on January 31, 2006, February 1, 2006 and for the third time with the
uninformed post you just made to which liar and perjurer Sara Salzman replied
to. I guess you approve of liars and perjurers as well!
<end/quote>
>But then Cleaver doesn't seem to be able to read very well and so may not
>understand about different ISPS and different accounts.
>
>Or maybe he lies through his teeth.
I deal in fact and you deal in hurling insults.
Tavish
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
Sara Salzman
mo...@post.com wrote:
That, and he is certifiably insane.
Cleaver, by the way, is such a coward he doesn't post under his real
name, which is Robert Scott Bradbury.
His most common nym is "Doc Tavish," followed by "Leave It To Beaver"
names.
A few years ago, his credibility was so non-existant that he "faked his
own death" in Usenet, by pretending to be his own relative and claiming
"Doc Tavish" had died.
He has also claimed to own a Cessna, a Desert Eagle, an outdoor barbeque
made by Topf & Son, and to have a "manservant" named Bruno.
In fact, he rents a shabby apartment in a little town in Texas, and is
the laughing stock of Usenet.
Sara
Sara Salzman
mo...@post.com wrote:
What a perfect description. Thanks!
Sara
#6
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>He has also claimed to own a Cessna, a Desert Eagle, an outdoor barbeque
>made by Topf & Son, and to have a "manservant" named Bruno.
Oh, Sara, I kinda like you. You're funny.
>In fact, he rents a shabby apartment in a little town in Texas, and is
>the laughing stock of Usenet.
>
>Sara
May I ask why you care where he lives? Did he gore your ox?
Sara Salzman
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
I couldn't care less where he lives. Please note I did not provide any
details about the town he lives in, although it's been posted thousands
of times, originally by Mr. Bradbury himself.
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
Hope that helps,
Sara
Kenneth McVay OBC
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
[Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time) who actually agrees
with Mr. Bradbury?
PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
--
"All shit like you have is lies and smears. Shit like you
can't refute what I post so shit like you resort to cheap
personal attacks and you wonder why kike filth is hated so much!
(Scott Bradbury, Bellville's leading revisionist scholar)
Sara Salzman
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> [Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>
> >In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
> >Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>
> Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time) who
> actually agrees
> with Mr. Bradbury?
>
> PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
Thanks for letting us know. I'm Queen Victoria. Next month I'm Gord
McFee.
Matt Giwer
He was also questioned in Hawaii by the FBI and the Hawaii BI because of phonecalls he made while
on the island to Micheal Rivero of whatreallyhappened.com You might want to try to contact him and
see if case numbers can be exchanged between authorities.
--
Given the threats to its existence, Iran is insane not to want nuclear
weapons.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 3569
nizkor http://www.giwersworld.org/nizkook/nizkook.phtml
antisemitism http://www.giwersworld.org/antisem/ a1
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
It has been proven that Laurence B. Shiff is MARDUK by John Morris!! It has also
been proven beyond any doubt that NAZIHUNTER is also a NYM Laurence B. Shiff has
used! Why are you set on denying documented facts? Is it because it is a Jew who
is harassing numerous people as detailed below?
>Hope that helps,
>Sara
You are trying to divert from this:
<START/QUOTE>
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500, <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
Privacy by Todd Brendan Fahey
February 13, 2006
James Hall publishes as "SARTRE" throughout the Web. Perhaps the most
prolific right-wing columnist on the 'net, he keeps to himself in
private life. Long retired as a political strategist, Hall is no
longer a believer in organized politics--though very much still a
believer in and spokesman for Jeffersonian anti-federalist, limited
government ideology.
And so he was surprised to answer his unlisted phone number on January
30th, to the question that was asked three times in succession: "Is
this SARTRE?" (His response each time: "Who is calling?"). Finally,
the caller shouted, "We know who you are!", followed by a death threat
that he has divulged only to the New York state police department in
his area, which he alerted immediately.
Says Hall, "No one calls for Sartre on my home phone number."
The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone
number (416-785-4574) owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, 327 Cortleigh
Boulevard, Toronto, Ontario MSN 1R2 CA. Friends assisted Hall in some
Google sleuthing, and which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer of the Kaspu
Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher
Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number I've been getting
threats from, and two of my other writers."
The morning of Hall's telephone death threat, he had published an
incendiary piece titled "Hamas, Israel and the United States,"
[http://batr.org/gulag/013006.html], which went 'net-wide and which,
later in the week, resulted in his being dropped from New Media
Alliance--ostensibly, a start-up conservative news bureau. The article
calls for a complete severing of the "USrael alliance," as a danger to
American citizens and an affront to the Constitution.
Two weeks before the threat received by James Hall, fellow Rense.com
writer Kurt Nimmo closed down his blog entirely, citing an inability
to reconcile death threats received, his publishing life and the
safety of his family ("Zionist Death Threats: Nimmo Closes Down Blog,"
http://www.rense.com/general69/goned.htm).
Writes Nimmo:
"The primary reason I have decided to stop posting the blog has to do
with threats. I have received many of them, including death threats.
Usually, I am able to brush aside threats, since most are not of a
serious nature, but lately I have received several that are not to be
taken lightly, especially considering the fact somebody has taken the
liberty to post my address and telephone number (information easily
attained from the domain registry) in various places on the internet.
First and foremost, I have a responsibility to my family and posting
political commentary obviously comes in a distant second."
On February 2, Rense.com writer Jim Mortellaro received calls from the
same Toronto, Canada phone number: "Beginning three days ago, two more
so-called 'men' began their tirade on this writer. Like the first
person, they informed me that I was a Rense supporter and that makes
me an anti-Semite. Me. Of all people, with a Jewish side to our family
in which 2.15% survived the camps. That would be two out of 93 human
beings. You picked the wrong person, guys. ...I now have his name and
address. The man lives in Toronto. He is the son of a (I won't go
there, not to worry), he is a member of a very wealthy family there,
with interest in (major interest) in a very large corporation."
("Zionist Threats and Harrassment Continue,"
http://rense.com/general69/cpontn.htm)
Mortellaro received the call on his cell phone, which, as he writes:
"is extremely hard to obtain. You must have the *authority* to do so
and that authority must be high up the food chain. So, whomever
called, did so from a "restricted telephone number" and had *access*
to cellphone numbers and their owners. A 'restricted' telephone
number, being different from a 'restricted call,' makes the case for a
governmental, institutional or large and powerful company as having
made the call."
Messrs. Hall, Rense, Nimmo and Mortellaro are now coordinating
efforts--with state police, FBI and Canadian authorities--for to bring
about a Federal investigation. Each writer has been critical in their
writings of US/Israeli entanglements; each has received death threats
from the same phone source--which has now been identified. All manner
of "special interest groups" have been protected from harrassment and
seen perpetrators punished. That this group is comprised of prominent
writers who hold what are undoubtedly unpopular beliefs, in the eyes
of mainstream media and probably within Washington D.C., will prove a
test case for the law being "fair and balanced."
###
Todd Brendan Fahey has served as aide to former Congressman John B.
Conlan, former Arizona Governor Evan Mecham, to CIA officer Theodore
L. Humes and to the late Defense Intelligence Agency chief, Lt.
General Daniel O. Graham.
<END/QUOTE>
Proofs Laurence B. Shiff is MARDUK aka NAZIHUNTER:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/3c63c1b64e026226?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:39:21 GMT
(Subject Title: "CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of
THT.NET and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER and Son of J Richard Shiff of Toronto")
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/39e576051e4bfd69?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <hqs1v1dqjv76mhd38...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:57:59 GMT
(Subject Title: "Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People")
Tavish
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-AAAE9A...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> Or maybe he lies through his teeth.
What I posted aren't lies and I challenge you to point out where I lied!
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
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Supplemental information to the above:
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/3c63c1b64e026226?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:39:21 GMT
(Subject Title: "CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of
THT.NET and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER and Son of J Richard Shiff of Toronto")
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/39e576051e4bfd69?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <hqs1v1dqjv76mhd38...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:57:59 GMT
(Subject Title: "Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People")
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/bb30dd58cbc603d?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <33s1v11c21u1psdae...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:55:44 GMT
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Special Note: In the above archive (as well as all the others) when you see such
as: "Cleaver <Ward_Clea...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:"
^^^
Just click on the three dots and you will be taken to a screen where you can see
the full post with all Message IDs and e-mail addresses fully intact.
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=0bb30dd58cbc603d&_done=/group/sci.skeptic/msg/bb30dd58cbc603d
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/834c29d6b2fadf04?fwc=1
Subject: Myth I Posted as NAZIHUNTER and Posted Yale F. Edeiken's Family Info
DEBUNKED For the Evil Defamation It Is. V1.0
Message-ID: <70pit1l70omnoueno...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:36:13 GMT
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>> Or maybe he lies through his teeth.
>
>That, and he is certifiably insane.
>
>Cleaver, by the way, is such a coward he doesn't post under his real
>name, which is Robert Scott Bradbury.
>
>His most common nym is "Doc Tavish," followed by "Leave It To Beaver"
>names.
>
>A few years ago, his credibility was so non-existant that he "faked his
>own death" in Usenet, by pretending to be his own relative and claiming
>"Doc Tavish" had died.
>
>He has also claimed to own a Cessna, a Desert Eagle, an outdoor barbeque
>made by Topf & Son, and to have a "manservant" named Bruno.
>
>In fact, he rents a shabby apartment in a little town in Texas, and is
>the laughing stock of Usenet.
You can't refute what I posted YET you can only make personal attacks! What does
this tell everyone who has any sense?
>Sara
"[Sara Salzman] also said to "address the lie, not the liar," because Holocaust
deniers often make personal attacks when they run out of arguments."
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2005/02/21/news/news02.txt
A non-debatable truth By ERIN FEESE Colorado Daily Staff
(Link active February 26, 2005. Archived locally as: CDCsaraCU)
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So look at who has resorted to making personal attacks as their only means of
reply!! I say in like manner: "address the lie, not the liar," because
anti-Christ Christ deniers and their Gentile Judases for allies often make
personal attacks when they run out of arguments." I have never denied the Nazis
killed Jews nor rounded them up to be killed and for a fact Sara is an
anti-Christ. Proof Sara Salzman is an anti-Christ Daughter of the Father of
Lies:
In article <1123293232.91cadcbf933fc5a1c9150e6b2ff9b055@teranews>,
fenim...@hotmail.com (James Fenimoore) wrote:
>
> May I ask if you acknowledege Jesus is the Christ or Messiah who
> came in the flesh?
>
> You haven't answered Tavish's question.
I sure have. I've answered it three times already. And since I happen to
be Jewish, why would you think I would believe any such thing?
Sara
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From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:55:49 -0500
Message-ID: <catamont-CFBE3C...@news.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fff52eca83b894a3
(Archived locally as: SaraSalzmanDeniesJesusIsMessiah_1)
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The Pharisees were also Jewish and they were the first anti-Christs documented
in the Bible. Many Jews of today also claim today's Judaism has been passed
down from the Pharisees whom Jesus boldly told were the Children of the Father
of Lies. John 8: 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry
out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 48 The Jews answered him,
"Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
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Tavish
Ward Cleaver
>On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:40:19 -0700, Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>
>>He has also claimed to own a Cessna, a Desert Eagle, an outdoor barbeque
>>made by Topf & Son, and to have a "manservant" named Bruno.
All pleasant fiction from a mythical "Doc Tavish." BTW why did you leave out the
siege of the chipmunks?
>Oh, Sara, I kinda like you. You're funny.
Here is her picture and see if you find any humor in it! :-)
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
Have you noticed how Sara and her fellow Neo-Pharisees have diverted the thread
from Shiff to making cheap shots about me?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>>In fact, he rents a shabby apartment in a little town in Texas,
My residence has nothing to do as to whether Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto,
Ontario is criminally harassing people or not!!!
>>and is the laughing stock of Usenet.
Only shite like you claim that Sara!
>>Sara
>
>May I ask why you care where he lives? Did he gore your ox?
She even drove all the way from near Denver, Colorado to where I live near
Houston, Texas to pay me an unwelcomed visit and to take pictures of my
residence YET she denies being a stalker!
~~Sara Salzman's "VISIT" To my Humble Town Was Uninvited~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/30b1377f29c14a1?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Now Threatening to Pay me a "Visit" aka Re: CALLING ALL
DOGPATCH RESIDENTS!! (Her Long Running Lie Now Exposed)
Message-ID: <tqoft1dievj4bejms...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Jan 2006 21:17:08 GMT
AND
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/514d1e8240b88a7c?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting" and From Whence It Came!
V5.0 (Corrections Made) T_0822
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:49:21 -0500
Message-ID: <ukojg1d6n0obssupo...@4ax.com>
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Key documented phrases from the two above archives regarding my position on
meeting kooks (Sara "The Fist" Salzman and/or The Humphreys) which anyone of
sound mind would understand:
<start/quote>
>Or better yet, I'll come to _your_ town... Xxxxxxxx, I believe?
>You pick the place. Pick a day between July 20th and 24th. Pick a time, pick
>a place.
I don't want to see your g*d d*mned ugly face!
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_2.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
<end/quote>
Exchange took place: July 11, 2003
<start/quote>
>> July 20-24th: Day, time, place.
>>
>> I'm waiting.
Don't hold your breath wh*re. If you want to press charges or litigate come to
my town and mind you by subjecting yourself to the legal system of my
jurisdiction I will be able to resolve some old matters myself. Seems you
perjured against me and you were also an accomplice to Yale's criminal acts
against me. As for meeting for any other reason I say NO!
<end/quote>
Exchange took place: July 12, 2003
The above is rather obvious that I did not want to meet a raging obese demented
pig and listen to her g.d. rants in person. Why do I want to hear that fat pig
wail? If that fat pig would have "press[ed] charges or litigate[d] [me]" then I
would have met with the swine at the courthouse for the trial and as I stated
and which the fat pig chose to ignore: "As for meeting for any other reason I
say NO!" I can't help that Sara Salzman is a retard and ranted to the DA whose
sole purpose is to prosecute people who have been charged with criminal acts NOT
to hear fat stupid pigs bitch and rant! In Sara Salzman's own immortal words:
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
Notice that fat swine admitted the above before she showed up in my town
UNINVITED!!! Also Sara Salzman wanted to "visit" David Michael who lives in UK!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/882857aaad658d8a?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Wanted to "Visit" With David Michael in UK Too!...
Message-ID: <f2vmt1t0nntp760pa...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 14:41:08 GMT
Tavish
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-038FF3...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
Why are you trying to deviate from:
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>> May I ask why you care where he lives? Did he gore your ox?
>
>I couldn't care less where he lives.
Then why did you "visit" me uninvited?
Proof your visit was NOT invited:
~~Sara Salzman's "VISIT" To my Humble Town Was Uninvited~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/30b1377f29c14a1?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Now Threatening to Pay me a "Visit" aka Re: CALLING ALL
DOGPATCH RESIDENTS!! (Her Long Running Lie Now Exposed)
Message-ID: <tqoft1dievj4bejms...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Jan 2006 21:17:08 GMT
AND
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/514d1e8240b88a7c?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting" and From Whence It Came!
V5.0 (Corrections Made) T_0822
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:49:21 -0500
Message-ID: <ukojg1d6n0obssupo...@4ax.com>
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/882857aaad658d8a?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Wanted to "Visit" With David Michael in UK Too!...
Message-ID: <f2vmt1t0nntp760pa...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 14:41:08 GMT
>Please note I did not provide any details about the town he lives in, although it's been
>posted thousands of times,
By you and your fellow thugs!
>originally by Mr. Bradbury himself.
That is an outright lie! Yale F. Edeiken posted my address and telephone number
in his death threat he made against me on the night of December 14, 1999! All
fully documented beyond any fault in my usual manner in this archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/93263479c9c0be6c?fwc=1
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!) V3.0 U_0101
Message-ID: <fh3gr19kqo8jhoqgu...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Jan 2006 18:33:33 GMT
Click this link to see e-mail addresses etc. restored: http://tinyurl.com/b6am6
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Yale tried to have me whacked and applying The Law of Moses which he
claims to adhere to as a Jew- I add:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
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Yale afterall did post my real name, address, and telephone number with the
incitement to murder by people visiting me with baseball bats!!!
>Sara
Tavish
Ward Cleaver
<catamont-E76F63...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <1139948539.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> mo...@post.com wrote:
Does everyone notice how off topic Sara and "mota" are?
~~Laurence B. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER aka MARDUK'S Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Organization: Be seeing you
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>> Sara Salzman wrote:
>> > In article <1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>> > mo...@post.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Who is this longwinded but says nothing nut with his offtopic posts to
>> > > sci.skeptic??
>> >
>> > He is Robert Scott Bradbury of Texas. He is a lonely old man with no
>> > friends or family, who has nothing better to do with his life than to
>> > sit and screed on Usenet.
>> >
>> > Here's a brief introduction to him. There's a Message-ID for each of
>> > these little gems.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks. He seems a sort of out-house-Hitler on crack.
>
>What a perfect description. Thanks!
Instead of hurling insults in my direction why don't you two address the fact
that a Jew has made death threats to numerous people?
Tavish
>Sara
The Chief Instigator
The Chief Instigator
I'm surprised the Blimp of Bellville hasn't accused me of being either one of
them, yet. (It's not like he pays attention to reality.)
The Chief Instigator
>In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>[Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>>In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>>Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time) who
>actually agrees with Mr. Bradbury?
>PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
I guess I can confess: I was Laurence Schiff in June 2000. (Better that than
being "kukri", back in 2005. That was a month from hell. I like being able
to use those 130 or so extra IQ points once again. ;-)
#6
<Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:40:56 -0700,
><catamont-E76F63...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <1139948539.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> mo...@post.com wrote:
>
>Does everyone notice how off topic Sara and "mota" are?
I can't help but notice how some people either lose focus or
deliberately try to change the tone.
They play the who's who when when game.
I think secretly they condone and enjoy that their kind make threats.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be #6 wrote
in message <ge85v1p2skq52fjbp...@4ax.com>:
>On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:56:51 -0600, Ward Cleaver
><Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>>Does everyone notice how off topic Sara and "mota" are?
>
>I can't help but notice how some people either lose focus or
>deliberately try to change the tone.
>They play the who's who when when game.
As opposed to the "make up lies about people who have made you look
foolish by pointing out your lies?"
Ward Cleaver
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>[Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>
>>In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>>Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>
>Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time) who actually agrees
>with Mr. Bradbury?
>
>PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
Your foolishness does not dismiss the fact that Laurence B. Shiff is a criminal
who has recently made death threats to numerous people and has been caught!
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>
>--
>"All shit like you have is lies and smears. Shit like you
>can't refute what I post so shit like you resort to cheap
>personal attacks and you wonder why kike filth is hated so much!
>(Scott Bradbury, Bellville's leading revisionist scholar)
Good sig line and you quoted me in context too! It fits you schitz to a "T"
Tavish
Ward Cleaver
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
References: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
<1ib1v1hgqkcbmhrml...@4ax.com>
<1139867460.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
<catamont-E4934D...@news.giganews.com>
<1139948539.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
<catamont-E76F63...@news.giganews.com>
<ct55v1h34o7af4ukn...@4ax.com> <szk4q31...@fnord.io.com>
<m1p6v1t50qaj34h4h...@4ax.com>
From: The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
Date: 15 Feb 2006 15:26:47 -0600
Message-ID: <szkirrg...@fnord.io.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddc45362285c1949?utoken=TNI6si8AAABbJT1j7M1XcOJbFnV7cu5pniAGDHvy_Bmm-45oNsxtdeAVe18OOLf0cB32phlWePs
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddc45362285c1949?fwc=1
Archived locally as: PLHthreatFeb15-2006)
On 15 Feb 2006 15:26:47 -0600, <szkirrg...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
Humphrey "The Stalker" <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>R. Scott Bradbury of Xxxxx, Xxxxxxx <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> writes:
Where I live is irrelevant you stupid shite and in keeping my policy:
What another poster named James Roberts advised about Patrick's boorish behavior
of posting where people live --> http://tinyurl.com/dsns7
Seeing how where I live keeps being brought up I will post where the unethical
and Publicly Censured and now INACTIVE former attorney lives who made the info
public in the first place:
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I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. I am also being
stalked by psychotics such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. FOR A FACT it was Yale F.
Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info from my
ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice under the
Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because
of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
YALE F. EDEIKEN
885 COLD SPRING ROAD; APARTMENT 2
ALLENTOWN, PA 18103
610-435-9820
<Source: Pennsylvania State Attorney Registration>
If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out then he
should encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my privacy!
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Special Note: The shyster named above issued a forged subpoena on my ISP to get
my address and telephone number and then he criminally made it available to
thugs such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. Proof that such an act was done to me may be
read here: Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?.. Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
IOW Patrick and others are accomplices to another criminal!
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>>On 14 Feb 2006 23:40:53 -0600, <szk4q31...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>(Newsgroups repaired)
Restored so everyone may see the sort of people who are Dr. Shiff's accomplices.
>>>R. Scott Bradbury <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> writes:
>
>>>>On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:40:56 -0700,
>>>><catamont-E76F63...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>>>><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>In article <1139948539.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> mo...@post.com wrote:
>
>>>>Does everyone notice how off topic Sara and "mota" are?
>
>>>Everyone notices your crossposting to newsfroups that have nothing to do with
>>>your mental illness, Cowardly Cocksucker of Xxxxxxx, Xxxxxx
>>
>>Where I live is irrelevant you stupid shite and in keeping my policy:
Restored above.
>...your canned rant is tossed in the trash, as usual.
Can't deal with the fact that your pal is a criminal harasser can you?
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>Stay stupid AND psychotic, Bloat of Xxxxx!
Where I live is NOT relevant you punk!
>We'll get around to seeing you, some day soon...
Subtle threat noted and documented.
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: Hartford 4, Houston 3 (February 11)
> NEXT GAME: Wednesday, February 15 at Cleveland, 6:05
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Info UPDATED LINKS S_0202
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
(EXCERPTED)
WHAT IS STALKING?
STALKING - pattern of words or conduct that is intended to cause and does cause
the targeted person to fear death, assault, bodily injury, or CSC upon the
person or member of the person's family.
HARASSMENT - pattern of intentional substantial and unreasonable intrusion
which causes the targeted person to suffer mental distress. A suspect must be
provided notice that contact is unwanted.
PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BEHAVIORAL PROFILE OF STALKERS
Simple Obsession Stalkers:
Simple obsession stalkers represent 70 to 80% of all stalking cases.
Characteristics include:
1 personality disorders.
2 emotional immaturity, jealousy and extreme insecurity.
3 inability to succeed in relationships by socially-accepted means.
4 dominating and intimidating victims in order to bolster own self-esteem.
5 biggest fear is losing the victim.
6 believing their lives have no worth without the victim.
7 turning to violence in order to control every aspect of the victim's life
STALKING BEHAVIOR PATTERNS AND CYCLES
1 Attempts at intimidation often begin in the form of an unjustified, jealous
and inappropriate intrusion into the victim's life.
2 Contacts become more numerous and intrusive over time, until such conduct
becomes a persistent pattern of harassment.
TYPES OF STALKING BEHAVIOR
1 visiting or following the victim
2 harassing telephone calls, which includes obscene calls and hang-ups
3 sending threatening mail, which is a federal felony
4 trespassing
5 vandalism
WHAT IS STALKING BEHAVIOR?
Stalking has been referred to as a "building block crime" because it usually
starts with small incidents that can get more and more serious. These incidents
can include such behaviors as:
1) following
2) watching
3) spying
4) tracking someone
==END==================================================================
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>
Ward Cleaver
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <szkirrg...@fnord.io.com>,
>The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>[Cleaver flushed straight down the Xxxxx, Xxxxxxx Bradbury]
Where I live is irrelevant but it does prove Dr. Shiff's supporters are the same
sorts of trash who like to harass people as documented in what you all want to
divert from:
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>>Stay stupid AND psychotic, Bloat of Xxxxxx! We'll get around to seeing
>>you, some day soon...
As I said- your subtle threat is noted and documented Patrick! I love how
Shiff's accomplices keep giving evidence of a criminal conspiracy.
Message-ID: <szkirrg...@fnord.io.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddc45362285c1949?utoken=TNI6si8AAABbJT1j7M1XcOJbFnV7cu5pniAGDHvy_Bmm-45oNsxtdeAVe18OOLf0cB32phlWePs
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddc45362285c1949?fwc=1
Archived locally as: PLHthreatFeb15-2006)
>The Flatulent Fart is still around? I found the air in Orlando clear and clean during
>last month's visit, so assumed he was dead again. Must have been the ocean breeze...
You are an accomplice to Shiff's criminal acts yourself McVay and it is
documented here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/3c63c1b64e026226?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:39:21 GMT
(Subject Title: "CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of
THT.NET and Dr. Shiff aka NAZIHUNTER of Toronto")
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/39e576051e4bfd69?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <hqs1v1dqjv76mhd38...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2006 20:57:59 GMT
(Subject Title: "Toronto Businessman Criminally Harasses People")
>Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-RA.01
>Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
>
> REQUESTS FOR ADMISSION
>
> NOW COMES Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken and demands that, pursuant to Rule
>4014, Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, Defendant Scott Bradbury
>admit or deny the truth of the following within thirty (30) days of service
>or, by failing to do so, admit the truth of the matters asserted:
Still quoting a mental case who lost his lawsuit against me I see!
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: <msohq1ltuiv3fdvpr...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
> 1. Defendant Scott Bradbury publishes material on the Internet under
>the pseudonym "Doc Tavish."
>
> 2. Defendant Scott Bradbury has in the past and continues in the
>present to use various services to publish his material in a manner in
>which it cannot be traced back to its source.
>
> 3. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published material on the Internet
>under the pseudonym "Nazihunter."
>
> 4. Defendant Scott Bradbury has created and published on the
>Internet under the name of "Nazihunter" a website which gives his own
>address and telephone number.
>
> 5. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter falsely claimed that said
>website was created by others in an attempt to harass him.
>
> 6. Defendant Scott Bradbury has, at various times, published his own
>address and telephone number under the name of "Nazihunter" together with
>various threats of violence.
That line of smear has been debunked numerous times and it was your major donor
Laurence B. Shiff who was posting as "NAZIHUNTER!"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/834c29d6b2fadf04?fwc=1
Subject: Myth I Posted as NAZIHUNTER and Posted Yale F. Edeiken's Family Info
DEBUNKED For the Evil Defamation It Is. V1.0
Message-ID: <70pit1l70omnoueno...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:36:13 GMT
One would think by now you would stop with the same spammed smear seeing how
anyone who looks at my proofs will see you for the liar you are McVay!
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with
the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." BUT I have "demonstrated" the
association between the Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
Tavish
----NIZKOR.ORG'S Ken McVay's Numerous Documented Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Three Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: <vd4sb1d8mo7qs9np0...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/fbf9d934e526f0c5?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Ken McVay's Sig Line Deceit Regarding Funding
of his Canadian Based Website V2.0 T_1230
Message-ID: <lj1br1hs001fmtarf...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Dec 2005 19:56:38 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/ab.general/msg/5c06fd75fb21497d?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds? V2.0 T_1002
Message-ID: <k991k1lr0j9n5n15i...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2005 03:33:01 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be
the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be
renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing
how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a
back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary
of those two "bogus" funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay;
he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis
Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID: <ks64r157pj30mgsn9...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
V2.0 Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtu...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently
perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which
B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even
though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is
more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
B'nai Brith has also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3f69fd5466002fcd?fwc=1
Subject: B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity V3.0 T_0929
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:54:57 -0500
Message-ID: <4elnj15f6o76v4pla...@4ax.com>
Ward Cleaver
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>(Newsgroups de-spammed)
Restored so everyone may see what sort of allies Criminal Shiff has! You are
doing the same as he does! You are two peas in a pod.
>Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> writes:
>
>>On 15 Feb 2006 15:26:47 -0600, <szkirrg...@fnord.io.com> Patrick Lee
>>Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>R. Scott Bradbury of Xxxxx, Xxxxxx <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> writes:
Posting where I live will not make the truth go away Patrick nor will it shut me
up!
>You're flushed, again.
What Patrick keeps diverting from:
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7c9f6dbb3f8e9cf7?fwc=1
Subject: Death Threats Lead to Dr. Laurence B. Shiff aka 'Nazihunter' FBI
Investigates Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:26 -0500
Message-ID: <cr34v1t0rnnkbkp55...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8c8265dd1816bfa9?fwc=1
Subject: CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of THT.NET
and Dr. Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto v2.0 U_0215
Message-ID: <9hs5v1dconn3f4hv4...@4ax.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:28:17 -0600
-------------------------------------
Now stalk someone else you boorish jerk.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.law-enforcement/msg/d705ebf5d2b94b91?fwc=1
Subject: PATRICK HUMPHREY - THE PROOF HE IS A STALKER (In Other Victims' Words)
Message-ID: <icimc1tfdc16d917h...@4ax.com>
Date: 6 Jul 2005 03:06:18 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Info UPDATED LINKS S_0202
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Feb 2004 03:56:50 GMT
How Patrick L.Humphrey Avoids the Facts Contained in the Archive Above:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/18e38072659756be?fwc=1
Message-ID: <2b1020hnohd6v183t...@4ax.com>
References: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
<szkhdy8...@fnord.io.com>
Date: 3 Feb 2004 20:45:36 GMT
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Feb 2004 20:29:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aero貞.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
Why does Patrick know so much about my residence but denies stalking me!!?
----Patrick Lee Humphrey = Documented Self Confessed Peeping Tom----
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
Ward Cleaver
further down.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-53AECB...@news.giganews.com
(Archived locally as: SDS-Son_Carnegie-Mellon_3)
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:26:43 -0700,
<catamont-53AECB...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <43f188f7$0$8260$6d36...@taz.nntpserver.com>,
> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
>> news:catamont-D3E78F...@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
>> > Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > [850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
Can't refute those documented and verifiable facts can you?
Anyone clicking this link will see you for the liar you are:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com
Subject: Re: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Message-ID: <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>
>> > And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
>> > of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter."
Show proof I did such! Where is it Sara?
>> > Mr. Bradbury has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
What smears?
>> > THAT is a fact.
You're a liar and a perjurer!
>> > Sara
>>
>> Be that as it may. Do you believe Schiff is this "Nazi Hunter" creep?
>>
>> I too, have been receiving rather nasty personal emails, all handed to the
>> authorities, I might add.
>
>"Be that as it may," Mr. Bradbury set out to slander and harass a
>completely innocent man who has, to my knowledge, never been involved in
>alt.revisionism, and he cross-posted information about Mr. Frame to
>"white power" newsgroups, encouraging others to harass him.
Proof?
>"Be that as it may," that is a disgusting and vile thing.
>
>As to Mr. Schiff, it sounds like he might have been Nazihunter,
He is/was "NAZIHUNTER" and Yale F. Edeiken was "nazihunter."
>and if so, he deserves whatever he gets.
They both deserve what they get!!!
>It was before your time here, Mr. Cramer, but the person most
>responsible for "outing" Nazihunter was John Morris.
A source that I have cited in my proofs.
>He -- and virtually everyone else -- was disgusted and offended by Nazihunter's tactics.
That is a load of hooey. Yale went on to imitate Shiff as "nazihunter."
>I don't know of anyone in this newsgroup I respect who didn't condemn
>Nazihunter for his actions.
Why are you and those you respect trying to divert attention from his latest
deeds then?
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7c9f6dbb3f8e9cf7?fwc=1
Subject: Death Threats Lead to Dr. Laurence B. Shiff aka 'Nazihunter' FBI
Investigates Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:26 -0500
Message-ID: <cr34v1t0rnnkbkp55...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>On the other hand, I don't see anyone -- you included -- on the Denier
>side who has ever condemned the people who sent me death threats,
Show examples of the death threats please.
>who continue to post and forge slanderous statements about me or my
>92-year-old father
You made your father a target of criticism by your constantly basing your smears
against others on the alleged opinions of your father!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e11cb065b764b2fa?fwc=1
Subject: Leon Salzman Actionable for Unprofessional Libel? Could Be! Perhaps I
Should Consult with my Local Attorney!!
Message-ID: <jo0ktvo8vvbs51uja...@4ax.com>
Date: 12 Dec 2003 18:12:15 GMT
>or my children. My Bradbury, for instance, who believes that "gifted" means "retarded."
It isn't a matter of what I believe you lying swine-- it is what people who deal
with the "mentally challenged" would call your two offspring as in:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/208018d1427bea85?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDSchildrenRetarted)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Psycho Sara and Susie, the 40 yr old Welch MALE plumber
Date: 08 Feb 2001 21:39:42 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-D20A99...@news.concentric.net>
"Both of my children test in the 95% percentile for their ages. Neither
is retarted, severely or not. Both are in the "gifted" programs at their
respective schools..."
<<Tavish comment January 28, 2006: You are trying to compare apples to oranges.
Your children may be in the 95% percentile (which I doubt seeing how you are a
proven liar) at their respective schools BUT that doesn't mean they are as
"bright" as kids not in special education. Face reality Sara- you popped out two
"gifted" children so what does that say about you and your lifestyle?>>
<END>
New addition for January 28, 2006: I notice that you referred to both of your
children as "gifted" and I have maintained the fact that "gifted" means special
education etc. which you and your fellow mental cases have jeered but here is my
essential proof that "gifted" is a euphemism for retardation, special education
etc.
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=gifted+&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=developmental+disability&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images
(Archived locally as: GiftedEqualDevelopmentalDisability. Use this link if the
above long link gets destroyed: http://tinyurl.com/83ve3 )
Web Results 1 - 20 of about 24,300 English pages for gifted "developmental
disability".
Sample returns:
NPS Special and Gifted Education
Gifted | Disabilities. Categories of Disabilities ... Autism - A developmental
disability significantly affecting verbal and non-verbal communication and ...
http://www.nps.k12.va.us/sged/studch_disab.htm - 18k
Special Education Journals
ERIC Clearinghouse on Disabilities and Gifted Education ... *Journal of
Intellectual and Developmental Disability Carfax Publishing Taylor & Francis,
Inc. ... http://ericec.org/fact/journals.html - 33k
LMSD: Pupil Services
(Definitions from Guidelines: Education of Mentally Gifted Students (1995). ...
Autism/pervasive developmental disorder is a developmental disability ...
http://www.lmsd.org/district_info/pupil/definitions.php - 21k
SNOW Kids Empowerment Zone
Kids' Camps - Provides a list of Developmental Disability Camps grouped ...
for children who have developmental disabilities who are gifted/talented, ...
http://snow.utoronto.ca/snowkids/active/camps_developmental.html - 10k
<<Tavish comment January 28, 2006: The above type of camp is where your daughter
was in July of 2003 most likely.>>
Resources for Parents of Special Needs Children
Gifted Children. Mental/Developmental Disability. Physical Disability.
Reading/Communication Disability. Sexuality. Speech/Language Impairment ...
http://www.boscbooks.com/resources.html
<End of GOOGLE Example Returns>
As the above proves: Gifted = Special Education in most cases and for a fact in
the case of Sara's two offspring. Care to remain in denial Sara? You are the
"gifted" mother of not one but two "gifted" children and here you are admitting
that you, yourself are "gifted":
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9d9e9b42701ff692?fwc=1
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/3df6a3a9bdacd77f?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDSchildAustistic)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Hello Sara
Date: 2000/03/10
Message-ID: <catamont-100...@ts011d23.den-co.concentric.net>
"My SON has a developmental disability, and I may have posted his name back
in the days when Matt Giwer insisted that NO ONE with autism could talk.
He knew that because he had "hugged" an autistic child once." <END>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/85e6ad77089b2d31?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDSsonRetarded)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: SO PSYCHOSARA LIKES TO BRAG ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE HER HOUSE IS
Date: 12 Mar 2002 02:32:51 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-4E4405...@news.concentric.net>
In article <d96c00cd.02031...@posting.google.com>,
psych...@mindless.com (Sara is a Psycho) wrote:
> QUESTION ABOUT YOUR MORALS:
>
> YOU CLAIM I AM TRAILER TRASH... BUT UNLIKE YOU, I DON'T HAVE A
> MENTALLY RETARDED AUTISTIC KID.
I don't have a mentally-retarded kid either.
<<Tavish comment May 20, 2003: According to the material below you do! So stop
remaining in denial!>>
> WOULD YOU TRADE THAT "NICE HOUSE" OF YOURS FOR A SINGLE-WIDE TRAILER
> IF IT MEANT ARI GETTING "CURED" OF HIS AUTISM (CAUSED BY YOUR BEHAVIOR
> AND GENETICS). JUST PRETEND GOD IS GIVING YOU THE CHOICE.
Autism is a neurological disorder. There is no "cure" for it. My son has
been treated since he was first diagnosed. And I'm certain that his
treatment has cost a great deal more than your trailer.
<<Tavish comment May 20, 2003: Your bigotry toward people who live in mobile
homes is noted BUT that won't make the truth your son is retarded go away!>>
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/345c6d04bdaa93e4?fwc=1
Subject: Did Sara "The Fist" Salzman's S&M/Drug HomeLife Result in Two "GIFTED"
Children? I.E. Genetics/Lifestyles? V2.0
Message-ID: <v78mt1def3trm00k8...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 08:50:39 GMT
>For the record, Mr. Cramer, my son is 18 and will graduate from college
>this spring.
That seems mighty astounding seeing how you have claimed relating to your son:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/3df6a3a9bdacd77f?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDSchildAustistic)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Hello Sara
Date: 2000/03/10
Message-ID: <catamont-100...@ts011d23.den-co.concentric.net>
"My SON has a developmental disability, and I may have posted his name back
in the days when Matt Giwer insisted that NO ONE with autism could talk.
He knew that because he had "hugged" an autistic child once." <END>
AND NOW YOU MAKE THESE CLAIMS!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/937a4e19271c07c9?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDS-Son_Carnegie-Mellon_1)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: RACIST ASSAULT ON USA
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:01:56 -0700
Message-ID: <catamont-A9FEEA...@news.giganews.com>
"By the way, neither Mr. Bradbury nor Baby Tommy can deal with the fact
their combined IQs aren't even one-tenth of my son's. Neither of them
can deal with the fact that not only did he receive his high-school
diploma two years early, but attended Carnegie-Mellon University at 17." <end>
Don't discount this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a19e34c1f6e1a676?fwc=1
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:49:37 -0400, <buBJe.28505$hp.1...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
"USNSM" <us...@usnsm.org> wrote:
>Just think, Psycho Sara not only went many miles out of her way to Tavish's
>town, she dragged her mentally disabled son there also.
Ari is autistic and according to the Mental Health Association and other sources
autism is generally accompanied by mental retardation which Sara denies and
which I have proven:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/3fabb411ffd254f9?fwc=2
Subject: Re: Funny, but a little sad.
Message-ID: <93s6c11f3kmq2hj2p...@4ax.com>
Date: 30 Jun 2005 04:43:42 GMT
Excerpt:
On 29 Jun 2005 18:46:32 -0700,
<1120095992.0...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The most dangerous
snake on the Internet" <colonel_...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
In-Reply-To: <catamont-27B8F3...@news.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/67437e37c2dfbe3?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SDS-Son_Carnegie-Mellon_2)
>>(we had to get up before 4:00 AM to send my son off to Carnegie Mellon
>
>I see, you sent him 2 months before the academic year starts, because
>he failed the entrance exam? Wait! wasnt he supposed to be autistic -
>with all those cruel antisemite Internet Nazis mocking his disablities?
>
>*sob sob*
He is autistic and if he's going off to Carnegie Mellon then it isn't as a
student but as a custodian in all likelihood!
~~End of GOOGLE Excerpt~~
Does anyone really believe Sara's fantasy about her son: "For the record, Mr.
Cramer, my son is 18 and will graduate from college this spring"?
>My daughter is 14, and is on the honor roll with a 4.0
>grade point average, and is a junior Olympics competitor in archery and
>riflery. That doesn't stop Mr. Bradbury and his pals from attacking two
>innocent children,
You were the one who exposed them to public scrutiny so you have only yourself
to blame Miss Piggy!!!
>and I have certainly never heard a single word from
>any other Denier regarding the bullshit Mr. Bradbury spews.
SPEWS? What I post is backed up with substantial proof unlike the SPEWS you
post.
>You're not the only person in this newsgroup who has received phone
>calls, or death threats, or worse. And the majority have been directed
>not to you or yours, but to innocent people who do not even contribute
>to this sewer called alt.revisionism.
>
>As I have since the beginning, I condemn Nazihunter and his tactics.
Yeah uh-huh like you are trying to divert from his latest criminal acts right
now?
>Will you publicly condemn those who use the same tactics against "the
>other side"?
I don't see that being done.
>Sara
Stay retarded Sara-- it seems to run in your family!
Tavish
Ward Cleaver
<WxvIf.23379$Fw6....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Matt Giwer
<jul...@tampabay.REMover.rr.com> wrote:
>Ben Cramer wrote:
>> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
>> news:catamont-D3E78F...@news.giganews.com...
>>
>>>In article <nmr1v1dd3f9vka7hq...@4ax.com>,
>>>Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>[850 lines of worthless "facts" deleted]
What Sara and her fellow Joos can't stand:
~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7c9f6dbb3f8e9cf7?fwc=1
Subject: Death Threats Lead to Dr. Laurence B. Shiff aka 'Nazihunter' FBI
Investigates Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:26 -0500
Message-ID: <cr34v1t0rnnkbkp55...@4ax.com>
The source of the material posted in the above archive:
http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
(Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8c8265dd1816bfa9?fwc=1
Subject: CONSPIRACY! Ken McVay of Nizkor, Marc Fournier aka Scrappy of THT.NET
and Dr. Laurence B. Shiff of Toronto v2.0 U_0215
Message-ID: <9hs5v1dconn3f4hv4...@4ax.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:28:17 -0600
-------------------------------------
>>>And yet, Mr. Bradbury had no problem publishing the personal information
>>>of one "Grant Frame," insisting that HE was "Nazihunter." Mr. Bradbury
>>>has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>>>
>>>THAT is a fact.
You told a bunch of lies Fatbroad. I did not even know who Grant Frame was until
David Michael called attention to him as I recall.
>>>Sara
>>
>>
>> Be that as it may. Do you believe Shiff is this "Nazi Hunter" creep?
>>
>> I too, have been receiving rather nasty personal emails, all handed to the
>> authorities, I might add.
>
> He was also questioned in Hawaii by the FBI and the Hawaii BI because of phonecalls he made while
>on the island to Micheal Rivero of www.whatreallyhappened.com You might want to try to contact him and
>see if case numbers can be exchanged between authorities.
I will do what I can do tho have all the victims unite in information and filing
charges against the criminal.
Tavish
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
Did you or did you not claim Grant Frame was Nazihunter?
<quote>
From: Doktor Tavische- view profile
Date:Mon, Jan 15 2001 1:41am
Email:Doktor Tavische <NOSPAMdoc_tav...@my-deja.com>
Groups:alt.revisionism
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:42:16 GMT, John Morris <John.Mor...@UAlberta.CA>
wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>In <vb156tcp9f3md3c7bfqlltm0ofpc4sa...@4ax.com> in alt.revisionism,
>on Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:49:01 GMT, Doktor Tavische
><NOSPAMdoc_tav...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>[snip]
>>Nazihunter claims to be a professor and he shows a liking of all
>>things Assyrian and he loves the name Marduk.
>Grant Frame is not Nazihunter.
All evidence points toward him. He's the only professor at U of T who
fits
the criteria. I's imagine that R.C.M.P. will find out soon enough once I
start the machine turning! Care to identify the real Nazihunter if you
think otherwise?!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/175e5849cd602688?hl=en
&
</END QUOTE>
Did you or did you not believe that Nazihunter was Grant Frame?
Did you not have long debates with John Morris about this? remember John
Morris? He's the one who was appalled at Nazihunter's tactics and who
did a great deal of research about him?
Well?
Sara Salzman
Ward Cleaver <Ward_C...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/175e5849cd602688?hl=en
&
>
> >> > Mr. Bradbury has never offered an apology to Mr. Frame for his smears.
>
> What smears?
>
> >> > THAT is a fact.
>
> You're a liar and a perjurer!
>
> >> > Sara
> >>
> >> Be that as it may. Do you believe Schiff is this "Nazi Hunter" creep?
> >>
> >> I too, have been receiving rather nasty personal emails, all handed to the
> >> authorities, I might add.
> >
> >"Be that as it may," Mr. Bradbury set out to slander and harass a
> >completely innocent man who has, to my knowledge, never been involved in
> >alt.revisionism, and he cross-posted information about Mr. Frame to
> >"white power" newsgroups, encouraging others to harass him.
>
> Proof?
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/175e5849cd602688?hl=en
&
> >"Be that as it may," that is a disgusting and vile thing.
> >
> >As to Mr. Schiff, it sounds like he might have been Nazihunter,
>
> He is/was "NAZIHUNTER" and Yale F. Edeiken was "nazihunter."
>
> >and if so, he deserves whatever he gets.
>
> They both deserve what they get!!!
>
> >It was before your time here, Mr. Cramer, but the person most
> >responsible for "outing" Nazihunter was John Morris.
>
> A source that I have cited in my proofs.
>
> >He -- and virtually everyone else -- was disgusted and offended by
> >Nazihunter's tactics.
>
> That is a load of hooey. Yale went on to imitate Shiff as "nazihunter."
>
Lie.
> >I don't know of anyone in this newsgroup I respect who didn't condemn
> >Nazihunter for his actions.
>
> Why are you and those you respect trying to divert attention from his latest
> deeds then?
No one is diverting attention from anything, Mr. Bradbury. Why do you
ignore the fact that everyone condemns Nazihunter?
>
> ~~Laurence B. Shiff's Chickens Come Home to Roost~~
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e88b5c4767585bbd?fwc=1
> (Archived locally as: NazihunterOldTricks)
> Subject: Nazihunter Back to His Old Tricks Again
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:03:24 -0500
> Message-ID: <7d8vu15mdcjdtfa4n...@4ax.com>
> The source of the material posted in the above archive:
> SiaNews.com | 12 Feb 2006 | Todd Brendan Fahey
> Fair and Balanced?: Death Threats Hit Prominent Political Columnists
> http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
> (Archived locally as: ShiffCaught)
> http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
> (Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
> ------------------------------------
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7c9f6dbb3f8e9cf7?fwc=1
> Subject: Death Threats Lead to Dr. Laurence B. Shiff aka 'Nazihunter' FBI
> Investigates Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:18:26 -0500
> Message-ID: <cr34v1t0rnnkbkp55...@4ax.com>
> The source of the material posted in the above archive:
> http://www.rense.com/general69/threat.htm
> (Archived locally as: ShiffCaught_A)
>
> >On the other hand, I don't see anyone -- you included -- on the Denier
> >side who has ever condemned the people who sent me death threats,
>
> Show examples of the death threats please.
Oh, please. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
"Sara Salzman Must Die"
"Sara Salzman Must Die Real Soon"
"Someone Please Kill Sara Salzman"
and more, each one of them with my address, phone number, and childrens'
names.
You have a very short memory.
>
> >who continue to post and forge slanderous statements about me or my
> >92-year-old father
>
> You made your father a target of criticism by your constantly basing your
> smears
> against others on the alleged opinions of your father!
You're a liar AND an idiot. No "smears against others," simply my
father's opinion about your mental health. Because a man expresses an
opinion you don't like, that's fair game to post his address and phone
number? Or to forge posts in his name?
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/345c6d04bdaa93e4?fwc=1
> Subject: Did Sara "The Fist" Salzman's S&M/Drug HomeLife Result in Two
> "GIFTED"
> Children? I.E. Genetics/Lifestyles? V2.0
> Message-ID: <v78mt1def3trm00k8...@4ax.com>
> Date: 28 Jan 2006 08:50:39 GMT
>
> >For the record, Mr. Cramer, my son is 18 and will graduate from college
> >this spring.
>
> That seems mighty astounding seeing how you have claimed relating to your
> son:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/3df6a3a9bdacd77f?fwc=1
> (Archived locally as: SDSchildAustistic)
> From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
> Subject: Re: Hello Sara
> Date: 2000/03/10
> Message-ID: <catamont-100...@ts011d23.den-co.concentric.net>
>
> "My SON has a developmental disability, and I may have posted his name back
> in the days when Matt Giwer insisted that NO ONE with autism could talk.
> He knew that because he had "hugged" an autistic child once." <END>
>
> AND NOW YOU MAKE THESE CLAIMS!!!
Tell it to Temple Grandin, Mr. Bradbury. She's an associate professor at
Colorado State University and the author of a number of books. She and
my son are very similar.
>
Doctor Temple Grandin (born 1947) is an Assistant Professor at Colorado
State University who has Asperger's syndrome autism. She is also a
professional designer of humane livestock facilities.
Grandin grew up in a time when little was known about autism. At age
two, she was diagnosed with "brain damage"; doctors would not recognize
her condition as autism for several years. She was placed in a
structured nursery school with what she considers to have been good
teachers. She considers herself lucky that she had supporting mentors
from primary school onwards.
Based on her own experiences, she advocates early intervention and
supporting teachers who can direct fixations of the autistic child to
fruitful directions. She has described her own overt sensitivity to
noise and other sensory information, as well as the need to visualize
everything. She regularly takes anti-depressants and uses a squeeze-box
(hugging machine) she has made herself.
She became well-known after being described by Oliver Sacks in the title
narrative of his book An Anthropologist On Mars. Grandin has lectured
about autism around the world and on many television programs.
Temple Grandin is considered a philosophical leader of both the animal
welfare and autism advocacy movements. Both movements commonly cite her
work regarding animal welfare, neurology, and philosophy. Her site has
entire sections on how to improve standards in slaughter plants and
farms themselves.
One of her most important essays regarding animal welfare is "Animals
are not Things" in which she posits that animals are technically
property in our society but the law ultimately gives them ethical
protections or "rights". She uses a "screwdriver" metaphor by saying a
person can legally smash a screwdriver or grind up but a person cannot
legally torture an animal. Some vegans and vegetarians say that if all
food animals were treated as well as Grandin says they should be then
they would eat milk or meat again.
http://temple-grandin.biography.ms/
No fantasy, Mr. Bradbury. FACT.
Do you always get your jollies from attacking people's children?
> >My daughter is 14, and is on the honor roll with a 4.0
> >grade point average, and is a junior Olympics competitor in archery and
> >riflery. That doesn't stop Mr. Bradbury and his pals from attacking two
> >innocent children,
Do you always get your jollies from attacking people's children?
>
> You were the one who exposed them to public scrutiny so you have only
> yourself
> to blame Miss Piggy!!!
>
> >and I have certainly never heard a single word from
> >any other Denier regarding the bullshit Mr. Bradbury spews.
>
> SPEWS? What I post is backed up with substantial proof unlike the SPEWS you
> post.
Spews. Thousands and thousands and thousands of lines of spew.
>
> >You're not the only person in this newsgroup who has received phone
> >calls, or death threats, or worse. And the majority have been directed
> >not to you or yours, but to innocent people who do not even contribute
> >to this sewer called alt.revisionism.
> >
> >As I have since the beginning, I condemn Nazihunter and his tactics.
>
> Yeah uh-huh like you are trying to divert from his latest criminal acts right
> now?
You're delusional. No one is trying to "divert" from Nazihunter. They're
snipping YOUR spew. Post it once, it may be of interest. Post it
thousands of times, it's spew.
>
> >Will you publicly condemn those who use the same tactics against "the
> >other side"?
>
> I don't see that being done.
That's right. You want everyone to condemn Nazihunter, and yet you just
LOVED the "Nizkor Phone Book," which by the way, did at one time contain
the personal information of one Grant Frame.
>
> >Sara
>
> Stay retarded Sara-- it seems to run in your family!
>
> Tavish
Let's see... father, MD; mother, MSW; sister, MD, PhD; sister, MSW;
extended family, all college graduates, five attorneys, four MDs, 2
composers, 2 professional artists, Chairman of a department at Harvard
Medical School, a Canadian immigration judge, the founder of the US
Holocaust Memorial Museum.... YOU should be so retarded, Mr. Bradbury.
Uncle Harold Bradshit
>Let's see... father, MD; mother, MSW; sister, MD, PhD; sister, MSW;
>extended family, all college graduates, five attorneys, four MDs, 2
>composers, 2 professional artists, Chairman of a department at Harvard
>Medical School, a Canadian immigration judge, the founder of the US
>Holocaust Memorial Museum.... YOU should be so retarded, Mr. Bradbury.
>
>Sara
Bradshit comes from a long line in inbreds, pedophiles and alcoholic mothers
who carried their children to term while swigging on a bottle of 'shine.
- Uncle Harold Bradshit
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Gord McFee
> In article <11v4v6i...@corp.supernews.com>,
> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>> In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
>> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>
>> [Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>>
>> >In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>> >Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>>
>> Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time) who
>> actually agrees
>> with Mr. Bradbury?
>>
>> PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
>
> Thanks for letting us know. I'm Queen Victoria. Next month I'm Gord
> McFee.
Works for me. I think I'll be Eugene Holman.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
Steve Wolk
"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:11vaeef...@corp.supernews.com...
> On 2/14/2006 8:28 PM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <11v4v6i...@corp.supernews.com>,
>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
>>> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> [Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>>>
>>> >In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>>> >Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>>>
>>> Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time)
>>> who actually agrees
>>> with Mr. Bradbury?
>>>
>>> PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know. I'm Queen Victoria. Next month I'm Gord
>> McFee.
>
> Works for me. I think I'll be Eugene Holman.
I'm Spartacus.
Sara Salzman
"Steve Wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote:
Wolk, you're ALWAYS Spartacus. :)
Steve Wolk
> In article <v_udndistJf...@comcast.com>,
> "Steve Wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote:
>
>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:11vaeef...@corp.supernews.com...
>> > On 2/14/2006 8:28 PM, Sara Salzman wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <11v4v6i...@corp.supernews.com>,
>> >> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <catamont-1650A8...@news.giganews.com>,
>> >>> Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> [Cleaver flushed down the ol' belleville bradbury]
>> >>>
>> >>> >In other words, if you disagree with Mr. Bradbury, you are obviously
>> >>> >Nazihunter. Or Laurence Schiff. Or both.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there actually anyone (able to walk and chew gum at the same time)
>> >>> who actually agrees
>> >>> with Mr. Bradbury?
>> >>>
>> >>> PSSST! I'm Laurence Schiff this month.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for letting us know. I'm Queen Victoria. Next month I'm Gord
>> >> McFee.
>> >
>> > Works for me. I think I'll be Eugene Holman.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm Spartacus.
>
> Wolk, you're ALWAYS Spartacus. :)
Oops, I forgot. Good thing I've got you around to remind me and show me
the way to the ZOG meetings..
#6
wrote:
>I'm Spartacus.
You're savage weiner nose.
I am #6.
Gord McFee
Congrats.