Doc, do me a favor
Jeff F. Davis
operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
I am your friend,
Jeff F. Davis
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Jeff F. Davis
Jeff F. Davis
Jeff F. Davis
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
Who do you think you're fooling this time?
Give my regards to your colleagues at Taco Bell -- and remember, I want
fries with that!
--PLH, screw it, I'm going down the street to Whataburger to get a taquito
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
>
>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>
>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
several million additional web pages while we wait.....
He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
--
"Denial of Science & The Science of Denial"
The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial
Doc Tavish
wrote:
>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
Will do but he has not denied lately that I've seen. I seem to remember
that someone else did claim that Nizkor in Texas had folded. I haven't
seen any trace lately by Nizkor claiming operations in Texas.
Doc Tavish
Patrick L. Humphrey
>In article <szkofxo...@fnord.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
Why so small a number? ;-)
>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
Actually, the evidence is fairly extensive to support the thesis that Ellis
has problems with comprehension, in general...
--PLH, and he's adding to the collection on a daily basis
Joel Rosenberg
> In article <szkofxo...@fnord.io.com>,
> Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
> >
> >>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
> >>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
> >>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
> >
> >Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
> >cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
> >ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
> >arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
> >Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>
> It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
> any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
> several million additional web pages while we wait.....
>
> He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
>
Yeah, just as the Grand Canyon seems to be a little large, the Sun is
a little bright, and Scotty is a little dim.
Doc Tavish
wrote:
>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>
>I am your friend,
>Jeff F. Davis
I did post this article just moments ago and then canceled it and I will
tell why after I show the article just posted and canceled.
<START>
On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 20:22:03 GMT, Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
Will do but he has not denied lately that I've seen. I seem to remember
that someone else did claim that Nizkor in Texas had folded. I haven't
seen any trace lately by Nizkor claiming operations in Texas.
Doc Tavish
>I am your friend,
>Jeff F. Davis
<END>
In the short interval between making the reply and researching I found out
my original answer was in error.
Here is what I found:
http://www.mazal.org/
(Looks Nizkorish)
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
Whois: mazal.org
Server: -automatic-
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
210-377-2422
Record last updated on 25-Jul-2000.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2001.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 3-Jan-2001 04:57:34 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.VERDAD.ORG 209.142.81.242
NS2.IDWORLD.NET 209.142.64.253
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here is another link:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/HNet/Mott231000.html
(I actually used this to get the info above)
[...]
For those who are curious, here the the details of
<http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG> the neutral
people behind Mr Mazal: His above website is registered by the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of 600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA. The billing contact is Mr Harry
Mazal of the same address: San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o
BASIC, 600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216, and their phone
number is 210-377-2422. Somebody might like to check them out in more
details. We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we
are told of these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
~~~~END~~~~
My reply to Ken McVay and other Nizkook heckles:
On 3 Jan 2001 21:01:01 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
wrote:
>In article <szkofxo...@fnord.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
>>
>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
I just proved you to be a liar Ken McVay with the information posted
above! Notice the info is fairly current and is not outdated by any means!
Your organization is named! Care to deny it now liar?
>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
How does your reading comprehension interpret the info below? (snicker
snicker)
Whois: mazal.org
Server: -automatic-
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
US
Record last updated on 25-Jul-2000.
Record expires on 28-Jun-2001.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997.
Database last updated on 3-Jan-2001 04:57:34 EST.
Kenneth McVay, OBC
offers the following information:
====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
[...]
For those who are curious, here the the details of
<http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG> the neutral
people behind Mr Mazal: His above website is registered by the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of 600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA. The billing contact is Mr Harry
Mazal of the same address: San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o
BASIC, 600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216, and their phone
number is 210-377-2422. Somebody might like to check them out in more
details. We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we
are told of these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
~~~~END~~~~
My reply to Ken McVay and other Nizkook heckles:
On 3 Jan 2001 21:01:01 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
wrote:
>In article <szkofxo...@fnord.io.com>,
>Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f...@my-deja.com> writes:
>>
>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor
>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to
>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a
>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you
>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been
>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that
>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through
>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
I just proved you to be a liar Ken McVay with the information posted
above! Notice the info is fairly current and is not outdated by any means!
Your organization is named! Care to deny it now liar?
>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
How does your reading comprehension interpret the info below? (snicker
snicker)
Whois: mazal.org
Server: -automatic-
Registrant:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
600 Sandau Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
US
====================== End Bradbury Quote ========================
What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any
association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."
That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury continue to ignore:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my challenge
stands:
If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of organization in the United
States, produce it.
While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
1,999,936 to go.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
<<YAWN>>
Kenneth McVay, OBC
Doc Tavish
wrote:
>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
>evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
I always know I've defeated one of you when I see the personal attack as
an opening gambit!
Are you claiming the WHO IS implemented by GEEK TOOLS lies? Are there two
Nizkors? I will go by what an impartial web interrogator says rather than
someone who is looking out for his own self interests!
The fact remains:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
210-377-2422
Doc Tavish
>
>====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
>
>[...]
Why the deletion Ken? Can't quote me in context?
So I guess you are claiming there are TWO Nizkor Funds separate in
entirety from each other? ROTFLMAO!
>That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
Personal attack is all you and yours are about isn't it? Fine way for a
director of an organization who relies on charitable donations to act.
Your taunt was: "While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading
Pool) to produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor
Organization" in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 10 new files."
I provided proof via a WHO IS and it does in fact show that there is
"there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization" in San Antonio, Texas.."
which you challenged.
Once again as shown above WHO IS by GEEK TOOLS showed:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
Why can't you accept that you've been caught in a lie?
This post with your comments will receive a very wide circulation which
you can count on along with a list of all of your money changers past and
present!
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States
> Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
> "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
>For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury continue to ignore:
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
Why should I believe a proven liar over an impartial web tool?
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my challenge
>stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of organization in the United
>States, produce it.
It's already been done fool!
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
It's already been done fool!
>1,999,936 to go.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
>
><<YAWN>>
Doc Tavish
Doc Tavish
wrote:
>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
>evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
I always know I've defeated one of you when I see the personal attack as
an opening gambit!
Are you claiming the WHO IS implemented by GEEK TOOLS lies? Are there two
Nizkors? I will go by what an impartial web interrogator says rather than
someone who is looking out for his own self interests!
The fact remains:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
>====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
>[...]
Why the deletion Ken? Can't quote me in context?
>For those who are curious, here the the details of
So I guess you are claiming there are TWO Nizkor Funds separate in
entirety from each other? ROTFLMAO!
>That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
Personal attack is all you and yours are about isn't it? Fine way for a
director of an organization who relies on charitable donations to act.
Your taunt was: "While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading
Pool) to produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor
Organization" in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 10 new files."
I provided proof via a WHO IS and it does in fact show that there is
"there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization" in San Antonio, Texas.."
which you challenged.
Once again as shown above WHO IS by GEEK TOOLS showed:
http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
600 Sandau
Suite 400
San Antonio, TX 78216
Why can't you accept that you've been caught in a lie?
This post with your comments will receive a very wide circulation which
you can count on along with a list of all of your money changers past and
present!
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States
> Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
> "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
>For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury continue to ignore:
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
Why should I believe a proven liar over an impartial web tool?
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my challenge
>stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of organization in the United
>States, produce it.
It's already been done fool!
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to
>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
It's already been done fool!
>1,999,936 to go.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi
>
><<YAWN>>
Doc Tavish
David Christian
<doc_tavi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
To Doc's AUK fans,
The poor chap is convinced that a site in Texas is somehow controlled
by EEEEEVIL Canadians.
>On 5 Jan 2001 00:31:43 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>wrote:
>
>>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
>>evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
>
>I always know I've defeated one of you when I see the personal attack as
>an opening gambit!
>
>Are you claiming the WHO IS implemented by GEEK TOOLS lies? Are there two
>Nizkors? I will go by what an impartial web interrogator says rather than
>someone who is looking out for his own self interests!
>
>The fact remains:
>
>http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG
>Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
> 600 Sandau
> Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216
> 210-377-2422
>
So, Scott, are you trying to tell us Ken lives a double life?
He's Ken sometimes and Harry sometimes? Thats the only way your silly
accusation would make a partical of sense.
j'g'b'...@my-deja.com
> On 5 Jan 2001 00:31:43 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> wrote:
>
> >Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
> >evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
>
> I always know I've defeated one of you when I see the personal attack as
> an opening gambit!
>
> Are you claiming the WHO IS implemented by GEEK TOOLS lies?
Nope.
We're claiming that you're an obese, feeble-minded gasbag who couldn't come up
with evidence of his own bowel movements.
Show us evidence that there is any branch of Nizkor operating in San Antonio
TODAY, fat boy. Four-year-old domain registrations don't cut it.
JGB
================================================================== =====
Jeffrey G. Brown jg_b...@my-deja.com
For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997