OXFORD UNION SURRENDERS TO THE TRADITIONAL ENEMIES OF FREE SPEECH!!
Matt Giwer
Sorry to burst your bubble, Kenny. HUB.ORG has implicated you in kiddie
porn and John Morris has identified the owner of THT.NET as the kiddie
dealer and the infamous zionazi who issues death threats. Bluff all you
wish. The RCMP and the FBI have all the details in hand.
When you are in a hole, stop digging. You allied yourself with B'nai
Brith and they are going to thumb their noses at you when you go down as
a shill sabboth goy while tht.net cops a plea of being Jewish.
There is a thing about backing wrong horse. I guess you were just
helping the horse over the fence. Enjoy the horse's reciprocity.
Zionists consider Jews expendible. What do you think they will consider
you? [info copy to ab...@hub.org and cc to Kenny goy]
BTW: I also know about the tht.net preparations to attempt to sue me.
And the insider has already passed me its major fallacy which lead to a
successful abuse of process no brainer counter suit. So bring it on. It
will be fun owning tht.net.
The best defense is a good offense. I have not begun to detail the
information I have from your "inner circle" of shills who have decided
you are not worth prison time. Keep posting and I will increase the
extent of my information.
Cancelations only inspire more information to be made public.
http://www.giwersworld.org/computers/newsagent.phtml
Updated 10 May 2001
In response to requests an origins section has been added.
Origin of the rogue cancellations - tht.net
Introduction
The Targets aka Zionist connection
The kiddie porn connection
The B'nai Brith connection
The Ken McVay and NIZKOR connection
The ISPs
26 April 2001
28 April 2001
1 May 2001
5 May 2001
8 May 2001
10 May 2001
12 May 2001
The Newsagent War
by
Matt Giwer
Never waste time attacking the software. Attack the
person using the software.
Many people have been subject to a newsagent attack.
Newsagent is usually referred to
as HIPCRIME.
Introduction
Newsagent gives anyone with a PC/Windows system the
ability to do many things but
primarily it is used for rogue cancellations. Used
correctly it offers almost anonymous
cancellations. However there are always traces one way
or another which is why law
enforcement has become so interested in what appears
to be a conspiracy in felonious
activities. And of course a chance to put breaking a
"real" internet related crime on their
resumes.
The press will run it as "Internet used to make death
threats" or some such.
Please see note [2] for some observations.
26 April 2001
To make it work with minimal traces one has to find
open usenet feeds some place in the
world and send the cancellation messages through it.
The first thing I discovered is over half either don't
speak English or any language I can
use to make myself understood or they don't give a
damn. (I did have success in getting
an anonymizer in Germany use to send threatening
emails shut down in three days.)
Some shut down in a few days or activated a rejection
on IP mismatch. A few started
putting the mismatch notice in the path but stayed
open. And as noted most made no
changes.
Now I was presented with the problem of stopping the
forged cancellations without ISP
cooperation. The solution which has worked so far
turned out to be quite simple. Point
my newsreader at the same news server which was used
to issue the forged
cancellations.
While flexible newsagent has limitations. It can
target entire newsgroups canceling
every post which is not what a psychopath would want
to do to silence the opposition. It
can also make matches with From: and newsgroup. It can
also attack newsgroup and
originating IP. It can also select From: and IP.
So by regularly making slight changes in my
identity[1] the only option available is to
cancel all messages to the newsgroup from the IP. And
as they are non-english
speaking ISPs it is extremely unlikely to generate
complaints from the ISP's users. But
that is where newsagent eats itself.
Newsagent also requires a post from a psychotic to the
newsgroup to work.
So the news server executes the cancellations on a
newest first basis. Which means it
first cancels the cancellations. Then finding no other
cancellations it has nothing more to
cancel.
Voila! One more psychotic bites the dust.
28 April 2001
Never underestimate the actions of a psychotic.
Notice above I said he could not cancel an entire
newsgroup without canceling all posts
to that newsgroup every place. I was wrong. The psycho
found a way to cancel an
entire newsgroup on one ISP while propagating
individual cancellations. But canceling
an ISP's entire newsgroup record? What better way to
get the attention of folks with
more clout than a lowly user.
He did not find a way to avoid propagating the
cancellation message so all I had to do
was read the Path: to find the open server, point my
newsreader to it and then survey the
damage. And make a few taunting posts in the process
to see if he will get more obvious
in his actions.
Back to the drawing boards and the Java code.
Maybe I will start posting to dozens of newsgroups to
encourage the psycho to use this
same method and make more enemies. The more finger
prints he leaves the more law
enforcement has to work with.
The most recent use of this tactic was on an ISP in
South Carolina, USA. The ISP was
informed as was its domain space supplier, Time Warner
as well as networksolutions
which registered both Time Warner and Bell Canada who,
after repeated notifications
are permitting these rogue cancellations to continue
without taking action.
I am not saying the internet is at risk but when major
players like Bell Canada and Time
Warner are too busy with more important things than
disruption of the largest disk space
consumer on every ISP something is a bit rotten in
Denmark. We need an Arnold to take
out the trash.
1 May 2001
The Canadian psycho continues to forge cancellations.
He clearly does not realize two
things.
The first is erasing or doing any damage to anyone's
computer by any means even if
there is no lock on the door is a federal crime. And
the cost of repairing the damages is
based upon the hours expended by the sysadmins. In
most states of the US the level of a
felony is $50. The cost is not the wages but the total
cost of employment which runs
160% to 180% of wages. Anything over one hour will
likely constitute a state felony.
The second is posts are not erased but simply marked
deleted. He is leaving evidence of
a felonies no matter what he does.
News servers do not erase posts. They simply mark them
for deletion and do not serve
the headers to news readers. The headers and and
message bodies are there until they
fall off the end of the disk by reason of the
retention time set or until the disk is
compacted. The fingerprints of the felon are there
long enough for all the evidence to be
recorded. There is no way to force a disk compact
without root privilege which
compounds the primary felony.
In regard to [3] people knowing of his crimes and not
reporting the crimes to the police
are considered at the minimum accomplices to the
crime, spousal and confessor
privilege excepted where recognized. Anyone who is
assisting in the commission of
these crimes is legally part of a criminal conspiracy.
As the simple explanation goes, if a
kid steals a candy bar it is petty theft. If two kids
plan to steal a candy bar it is ten years.
The amusing part of this is there is more than one
person and they have left public posts
documenting it in many ways, usually by knowing things
only the active party, the patsy,
could know and vice versa.
And even after our public postings of where they have
gone wrong in failing to cover
their actions and in knowing things they could not
know unless ... they continue doing it.
The gang who couldn't shoot straight. There have been
public posts as to their identities
being known to the police, the FBI and the RCMP and as
to the investigation as a whole.
I am reminded of that character in one of the James
Bond movies "I am inwincable" just
before meets his end.
What pisses me off is I never wanted to waste my time
learning this much about nntp
implementation. I do have better things to do with my
time. If these guys ever learn
enough to be dangerous I just might have to read the
RFCs. And that is boring.
Captain's log, Earth date 5 May 2001
As noted above, when newsagent runs on a newsgroup of
an ISP it must cancel all the
posts in that newsgroup in order to avoid canceling
its own cancellations first. The
current vexing one (pun intended) is running is
Australia. After six notifications and an
assurance it was stopped (an admission of the ISP
running it) it continued.
Thought of the hour. Odd newsgroups on an ISP will not
generate many complaints. But
how about including likely popular newsgroups as in
this case soc.culture.australia and
soc.culture.australian. When newsagent causes the
entire local news spool of those
groups to be canceled local users are going to
complain to the ISP.
On the first tries the posts were not canceled. Some
were canceled on subsequent tries
but varying the newsgroup order left them uncancelled.
There appear to be only a dozen
or so Australian newsgroups including alts and porns.
If this is working there should be
no problem getting the ISP to stop the rogue
cancellations or lose customers right and
left.
And the beauty of it is he is doing it to himself.
But that failed. The next tried tried also failed.
That was to crosspost all messages to
control.cancel in an attempt to get the cancellations
canceled first. How is that being
accomplished? Enter virgin leafnode installations.
8 May 2001
In the last few days it has become clear more than one
person is involved as multiple
forged cancels on the same message are issued. This by
a typical resurrection. If you
read the bang list (Path:) to the end you can see the
ISPs which have issued these
forgeries.
A particularly serious abuser has been
optushome.com.au which despite dozens of
notifications over the weeks has continued forging
cancellations and at present has
exceeded 2500 forgeries.
Recently demon.net has joined in the forgeries.
Demon.net is one of the largest ISPs in
the UK. They set up leafnode which has a useful
maximum of about 100 users to issue its
forgeries. From the leafnode website ...
Leafnode is a USENET software package designed
for small sites running
any flavor of Unix, with a few tens of readers
and only a slow link to the
net. It was originally written by Arnt
Gulbrandsen and is currently being
maintained by Cornelius Krasel . The current
version is 1.9.18.
From this we learn no ISP has any use for leafnode.
When we find it being run by an ISP
and open to the world we know it is has been done for
a purpose. In this case the
purpose is to issue forged cancellations.
In investigating these cancellations I always try to
point my newsreader to the news
spool. If I can logon it is an open relay. If I cannot
it means the ISP is guilty of forging
cancellations. Which is where leafnode comes in.
Open relays imply innocence. Those which are closed
imply guilt. By setting up leafnode
which is small and does not interfere with the ISP's
operations and leaving it open, guilt
or innocence is ambiguous. Of course it also implies
gross incompetence in leaving it
open after installing as how to stop that is right up
front in the README file. You can't
complete the installation without reading how to stop
it. It also implies gross stupidity by
an ISP in choosing leafnode.
On the assumption an ISP is not this dumb nor this
stupid the ISP is guilty simply by
having it operating.
It is clear an ISP the size of demon.net has no use
for leafnode save perhaps for internal
use behind its firewall for a small group within
demon.net. It is clear whoever set up
leafnode on demon.net is inside the company. So we
have major companies (if the fire
the employee they can be excused) forging
cancellations.
This fits with control.cancel not working as a news
server has no newsgroups when
initiated. Not having a control.cancel newsgroup
prevents the crosspost to
control.cancel from working. The method to deal with
this is to logon to the open relays
and read control.cancel. At first it will not be there
but the next time it updates it will
show up and cancellations will be canceled. At least
that is the current tactic. The
counter tactic is to set it to never update.
Also in this time cabal.int has become involved by
issuing resurrections for the canceled
messages. When resurrection messages are canceled
cabal.int issues resurrections of
the resurrections. This can go on ad infinitum if
cabal.int maintains an interest. While it
may harm the newsgroups for the moment it has the
potential of organizing many ISPs to
rooting out the people conducting this campaign.
10 May 2001
In [4] we see a partial list of ISPs who have
participated in this over the last two months.
We have to ask at some point, could there have been so
many accidental discoveries or
break-ins so quickly. The answer is unclear.
But we can answer the question, has it all been the
work of just one person? Clearly no.
In the last week multiple ISPs have been cancelling
the same message.
Today tac.net joined in forging cancelations.
Origin
I became involved about three weeks after this
started. Prior to that the target was only
one person with the forged cancelations being issued
by THT.NET in Toronto. I
understand weeks of complaints were unheeded. I became
involved around the time
THT's upstream provider, HUB.ORG was being notified
and similarly ignoring
notifications.
The foray with HUB.ORG was of value as rather than
THT.NET's FU silence
scr...@hub.org aka ab...@hub.org was willing to
respond. It was a lot of
unimpressive stalling until one email. In that email
for no reason whatsoever and out of
the blue included a name which had not been discussed
previously. That person was
Ken McVay of NIZKOR.ORG. Ken McVay has a long history
of shilling for B'nai Brith.
I have no idea why HUB.ORG implicated Ken McVay in
death threats kiddie porn
dealings. I would say scrappy has a lot of explaining
to do to Mr. McVay.
After that connection with nizkor was made the attacks
from THT.NET were
transferred to other servers. Anyone connecting the
dots identifies THT.NET as the
nexus of the on-going criminal activities and
disruption of usenet. How McVay of Nizkor
fits in is unclear but has been implicated by HUB.ORG
as part of the nexus.
Hub.org aka ab...@hug.org aka scr...@hub.org refused
in no uncertain terms to
shut down tht.net's newsfeed or take any remedial
action against it. He also said he had
worked for and had been offered a job by tht.net
possibly explaining his reluctance to act
responsibly. Possibly because he was involved or at
least knew the person or persons
and refused to do his civil duty and was willing to
take his legal chances with the kiddie
porn charges.
12 May 2001
People not familiar with the internet have heard
horror stories about tracking down
intruders and hackers. They have asked me why I think
this is so easy to correct. Let me
take leafnode as an example.
Stopping the abuse via a leafnode installation
requires the following steps. The
commands are.
su [enter password for root which is total
control of the system]
whereis leafnode [this gives an answer in two
seconds at most]
rm leafnode [rm = remove and it stops]
And that is all there is to it. Taking days after
dozens of notifications does not explain
failure to take the above steps which talk less than
one minute.
I will admit it may be somewhat more complicated than
that on a large multi-server ISP.
But then the system administrators should be
knowledgeable enough of their system to
do the same thing just as quickly. If they cannot then
they are incompetent.
I have also been asked another question. How do you
know? I have an email from one
John Morris, frequent usenet participant, who has
identified Larry Schiff, owner of
tht.net, at the infamous NAZIHUNTER and kiddie porn
dealer and the person who has
been making the death threats on international
telephone carriers. Dr. Morris will not
object as he knows his email is not only record but
also in the hands of the FBI and
RCMP.
I have also contacted Bell Canada on the death
threats. Bell Canada knew the person
making the death threats but insisted upon protecting
his identity. Despite numerous
complaints to Bell Canada over the years it has not
only protected his identity but taken
no action at all against the person whom they know is
using their system to make death
threats. It is of interest that Bell Canada is
conspiring with kiddie porn merchants.
I find myself quite amazed at the protective system
around the person John Morris has
identified. I find it also interesting Dr. Morris has
not gone to the authorities with his
knowledge of these kiddie pornographers. I have no
idea what fear prevents Dr. Morris
from going to the authorities to avoid being charged
as an accomplice which he is now as
he has remained silent. His entire professional career
is on the line here.
I also have a usenet post offering this kiddie porn
from from tht.net. The only excuse
might be he/it used an alias. I recommend anyone
before a judge saying, "I used an alias
so it is OK." Falsely offering fake kiddie porn is
like falsely offering illegal drugs. You get
busted on the charges as though it were real.
Doctor Morris has been a long time defender of Ken
McVay and other Zionazis who
have terrorized those who disagree with them.
Harrassing employers is the least of their
tactics. I have posted fake employers just to let them
waste their phone calls and get
charged with harrassing phone calls. When you
recognize their tactics, use them. Not
the tactics, them.
And as my address has been posted so many times over
the years on the internet by
tht.net with the invitation to homicidal violence I
really have no concern about this clown
who is a few candles short of menorah.
I do have a concern regarding how many non-Zionist
Jews he is defaming when I post
true desciptions in my resurrected subject lines. One
of his earliest usenet post to me
was "He is not an antisemite but I am going to make
him one." People like this try to
make enemies so they can claim to be defamed and
justify their criminal actions and let
them continue in their kiddie porn business.
Some folks may be gambling the police being stupid on
the internet. They are but they
are improving rapidly. And the statute of limitations
is seven years at a minimum for
these felonies. I give the following salutation,
"Rotsa Ruck!"
Who are the targets
It started with
Anyone supporting the Palestinian position
against Israel meaning essentially all
Islamics and the very large community of
anti-Israel and anti-Zionist Jews
Anyone reciting archaeological findings in
Palestine and the known history of
Palestine which brings into question Israel's
claim to the region
and expanded to
Anything generally considered politically
conservative as the term is defined in
the US and Canada.
against gun control
anti-abortion
libertarian in general
questioning gay rights
questioning open immigration policies
questioning dual citizenship
anti-socialist/marxist/communist
supporting the punishment of convicted
spies
It is quite a diverse list but clearly pro-Israel and
pro-liberal as defined in the US and
Canada.
The list of people being canceled started with one and
it now over fifty with almost as
many as the ISPs, wittingly or unwittingly, which have
participated in these
cancellations.
[1]As it is a windows program it loses all of its
setting after each cancellation. That would
require reading every message in a newsgroup for
content to establish the new names.
A daunting task to re-enter everything every time with
every variant name.
Variant names may appear to lose personal identity in
a newsgroup. But Matt Giwer and
Matt Giiwer and Matt Giwer2 and a finite but very
large number of human readable but
software unreadable variants exist. Software
unreadable as soft matches can not work
in automatic extraction of variants from a news spool
and automation of the cancel
process.
This approach failed indicating an effort to read all
messages. Totally different names
require reading all messages posted. An effort beyond
all but the most dedicated
psychotic.
[2]This psycho is obviously being fed with information
as to who has open feed news
servers. I do not wish to put too fine a point on it
but those who search for them for fun
are enabling psychotic when they indiscriminately
share the information. I know there is
a ethos of "no responsibility" but remember you could
be next. Today's smasher of one
icon is tomorrow's smasher of another icon which could
be yours. Think about it.
[3] Of interest are the RICO statutes which are
effectively the same in Western Europe,
Canada and the US. All people who work towards a
common objective even if they do
not know all the others are criminally liable for all
the crimes of all working towards a
common objective.
The known felonies of one or more participants are
computer hacking and destruction of
computer records, international telephone death
threats and dealing in child
pornography. The latter is interesting. As with
offering fake drugs for sale falsely offering
child pornography carries the same penalties as
offering real drugs.
The child pornography issue involves the juvenile
offering it for sale in the name of
another person. Using an alias in a felony compounds
the felony. Meaning offering it for
sale in the name of another is the same as offering it
for sale in one's own name. And all
persons working towards the same objective are equally
guilty of dealing in child
pornography.
[4]A partial list of ISPs used wittingly or
unwittingly. Most have acted responsibly but
usually very slowly. Some have participated in the
forgeries. Some have made made
forgeries possible.
Origin of the first forgeries
tht.net => Toronto, Ontario, Canada
hub.org => Toronto, Ontaria, Canada
pascal.a2000.nl!newsfeed.a2000.nl!not-for-mail
post.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!pn!anonymous!127.0.0.1!pn
netnews.com!opentransit.net!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail
newsfeed.twtelecom.net!216.136.69.31.MISMATCH!216.136.69.31!64.24.114.68
ctu-gate!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.ntu.edu.tw!nntp.tfvs.tp.edu.tw!64.24.114.68
particularly uncooperative but likely due to
the language difference
216.136.69.31
telenews.teleline.es
webtv.net
baran22.ttnet.net.tr
news.zeno.nl
optushome.com.au
extremely uncooperative without a language
difference excuse
hinwick.demon.co.uk => demon.net
tpi.pl => stopped it within 24 hours, the most
responsive yet
jekly.ab.tac.net => started 10 May 2001
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John Morris
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In <3AFE5C21...@tampabay.rr.com> in alt.revisionism, on Sun, 13
May 2001 10:04:19 GMT, Matt Giwer <jul...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "Kenneth McVay, OBC" wrote:
> Sorry to burst your bubble, Kenny. HUB.ORG has implicated you in
> kiddie porn and John Morris has identified the owner of THT.NET as
> the kiddie dealer and the infamous zionazi who issues death
> threats. Bluff all you wish. The RCMP and the FBI have all the
> details in hand.
> When you are in a hole, stop digging. You allied yourself with
> B'nai Brith and they are going to thumb their noses at you when you
> go down as a shill sabboth goy while tht.net cops a plea of being
> Jewish.
> There is a thing about backing wrong horse. I guess you were just
> helping the horse over the fence. Enjoy the horse's reciprocity.
> Zionists consider Jews expendible. What do you think they will
> consider you? [info copy to ab...@hub.org and cc to Kenny goy]
> BTW: I also know about the tht.net preparations to attempt to sue
> me. And the insider has already passed me its major fallacy which
> lead to a successful abuse of process no brainer counter suit. So
> bring it on. It will be fun owning tht.net.
>
> The best defense is a good offense. I have not begun to detail the
> information I have from your "inner circle" of shills who have
> decided you are not worth prison time. Keep posting and I will
> increase the extent of my information.
> Cancelations only inspire more information to be made public.
The only person with any reasonably reliable information is me and
possibly David Michael. Neither of us is Ken's inner circle, and I
have not and will not answer your e-mail.
If you're going to bluff, Matt, try to do it when you're sober so you
can at least guage whether it looks plausible.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Matt Giwer
The FBI and the RCMP have your email with full headers and ISP
confirmation. Rotsa Ruck.
Of course it is all a bluff.
Thank you for calling it.
Rotsa Ruck.
--
Artificial intelligence? We can't even make artificial stupidity.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 129
Matt Giwer
Of course it is a bluff. It is all a bluff. Including your email
identifying tht.net is a bluff. If you emailed falsely the owner of tht.net
is going to sue your butt off.
I have no problem with all of this pretrial disclosure. Consider
yourself very lucky if you can plea bargain for your failure to tell the
RCMP what you told Scotty. I did email you on this over a month ago and you
did not respond. After that email you can not claim ignorance of your legal
responsibilities.
Live long and prosper, no matter which prison.
>--
> John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
It is amazing you are putting that on the line for a kiddie porn
dealer.
--
You can get more with a kind word and a baseball bat
than you can with just a kind word.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 394
John Morris
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Well, I suppose if I'm going to answer this crackpot in six
newsgroups, I might as well do their readers the courtesy of letting
them know what we're talking about.
Between 1995 to 1998, a Laurence Shiff of Toronto, posting in usenet
as mar...@idirect.ca, posted the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of people he didn't like. He also dropped broad hints about
making harassing telephone calls.
After an absence of some months in 1998, he either returned using
anonymous remailers *or else* another person from the Toronto area
began to do the same sort of thing. Aside from anonymity, this
person showed another difference from Shiff's abuses: he was much
bolder in stating that he was indeed making harassing phonecalls.
After awhile, this anonymous abuser began to make death threats
against Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a complete moron from Texas.
Apparently, the threats were not limited to usenet but also included
obscene phone calls.
Latterly, the tactic has switched from the illegal to the annoying
taking the form of automated forged cancel messages. Many of you may
have seen the results in multiple reposts of the same cancelled
messages.
What do I have to do with any of this? I merely cared enough to
track down this stalker. Even complete morons have the right to
speak. There is also a standing offer from me to share whatever
information I have at the time with responsible police authorities
acting on a complaint from one of the victims.
In
<Pine.LNX.4.21.01051...@653241hfc12.tampabay.rr.com>
in alt.revisionism, on Sun, 13 May 2001 11:25:09 GMT, Matt Giwer
<ma...@whom.at.what.ever> wrote:
> >> "Kenneth McVay, OBC" wrote:
> >possibly David Michael. Neither of us is in Ken's inner circle,
> >and I have not and will not answer your e-mail.
> >If you're going to bluff, Matt, try to do it when you're sober so
> >you can at least guage whether it looks plausible.
> Of course it is a bluff. It is all a bluff.
Of course. Your first claim is that hub.org has made a disclosure
about Ken McVay's net activity. But I doubt very much they would
risk a violation of the Privacy Act and possible civil litigation
just because a couple of impotent nosepicking net kooks asked them
to.
Second, you claim that I have identified the owner of tht.net as some
bloody thing or another. I can recall only having identified tht.net
as the downstream client of hub.org, which is what hub.org finally
said in response to my complaints about the cancels.
> Including your email
> identifying tht.net is a bluff. If you emailed falsely the owner of
> tht.net is going to sue your butt off.
> I have no problem with all of this pretrial disclosure. Consider
> yourself very lucky if you can plea bargain for your failure to
> tell the RCMP what you told Scotty. I did email you on this over a
> month ago and you did not respond. After that email you can not
> claim ignorance of your legal responsibilities.
Third, I have no legal responsibilities here. On my own initiative,
I took the trouble to call the Bellville, Texas police when Scott
posted a case number. They never returned my calls.
I don't know that the Canadian authorities have been contacted. I
don't know if a criminal complaint has been filed in Canada. What's
the case number? If I don't have a case number, what am I supposed
to do? Call up and say, "There's this guy in Texas who got harassing
phone calls, and he may be in touch with you about it. Well, if he
does, I have some information"?
Yeah, maybe in your fantasy world.
If the Canadian authorities want to talk to me, they can call. I'll
tell them everything I know.
> Live long and prosper, no matter which prison.
Oh, you big scary man, now I've gone and peed my pants with fear.
> It is amazing you are putting that on the line for a kiddie porn
> dealer.
What have I put on the line? I've fingered a very rich, very
powerful, and possibly very nasty man in Toronto who may have nothing
at all to do with any of this.
The only reason you are attacking me is out frustration with your own
impotence and ineptitude. The last thing the police would have told
you to do was broadcast a message to six newsgroups warning the
perpetrator that the police were coming and to shred any child
pornography that might still be on his hard drive. Can you say,
"obstructing justice"?
But no, you dumbasses are so clueless you don't know enough to shut
your mouths and let the police do their work. And that assumes
they've even been contacted and that you're not just striking heroic
poses.
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John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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Kenneth McVay, OBC
interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially
plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while
accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not
to see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even
when they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel*, and
generally conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual
and factual integrity that there seems to be no point in taking
the time to read and respond. For detailed and documented
evidence of this, please refer to
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
If you do not enjoy the luxury of a news filter, simply delete Mr.
Giwer's articles unread. With a few moments' practice, they are easy
to identify.
Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special
newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately
ignored (the group has no users - it's just a convenient toilet for
Matt's vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
Crawler bait: mgi...@gate.net Matthias Giwer
Lincoln James <qwe...@qwer.wer> Matthias Giwer
Kainee <pea...@arrld.not> Matt Giwer
Rabbi Moshe Dreckschreiber
Rabbi Dr. Gedalia Pashkvilkemacher
Uroboros The Elder <ro...@sasquatch.ab.com>
--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
Andrew E. Mathis Ph.D.
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> I smell sterno!
A WHOLE LOTTA STERNO!
sw
Diogenes
John Morris wrote:
> If you're going to bluff, Matt, try to do it when you're sober so you
> can at least guage whether it looks plausible.
Please elucidate mR. Apprentice English Professor!
What is ' guage ' ????
An example of the 'living nature' of the English 'langague' perhaps?
Gumshoe Tavishberg
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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>Well, I suppose if I'm going to answer this crackpot in six
>newsgroups, I might as well do their readers the courtesy of letting
>them know what we're talking about.
>
>Between 1995 to 1998, a Laurence Shiff of Toronto, posting in usenet
>as mar...@idirect.ca, posted the names, addresses, and telephone
>numbers of people he didn't like. He also dropped broad hints about
>making harassing telephone calls.
>
>After an absence of some months in 1998, he either returned using
>anonymous remailers *or else* another person from the Toronto area
>began to do the same sort of thing. Aside from anonymity, this
>person showed another difference from Shiff's abuses: he was much
>bolder in stating that he was indeed making harassing phonecalls.
>After awhile, this anonymous abuser began to make death threats
>against Scott "Doc Tavish" Bradbury, a complete moron from Texas.
Perhaps if you were in my shoes and had been victimized over a year
you would think differently John.
The case has been reopened and assigned to another peace officer. With the
posting of the child porn AD law enforcement has a new interest. Put up or
shut up Morris and stop calling names!
Sgt. Blakey (was Officer Roy Hubert)
Bellville Police Department
30 S. Holland
Bellville, Texas 77418
(979) 865-3122
FAX (979) 865-9061
Case #00-0000065
>I don't know that the Canadian authorities have been contacted.
They have.
>I don't know if a criminal complaint has been filed in Canada.
I have filed complaints via their Toronto website.
>What's the case number? If I don't have a case number, what am I supposed
>to do? Call up and say, "There's this guy in Texas who got harassing
>phone calls, and he may be in touch with you about it. Well, if he
>does, I have some information"?
>
>Yeah, maybe in your fantasy world.
>
>If the Canadian authorities want to talk to me, they can call. I'll
>tell them everything I know.
>> Live long and prosper, no matter which prison.
>Oh, you big scary man, now I've gone and peed my pants with fear.
>> It is amazing you are putting that on the line for a kiddie porn
>> dealer.
>What have I put on the line? I've fingered a very rich, very
>powerful, and possibly very nasty man in Toronto who may have nothing
>at all to do with any of this.
Why did Scrappy (HUB.NET) refer to Dr. Shiff in an e-mail, he accidentallky CCd
Matt Giwer and myself that was sent to Ken McVay?
>The only reason you are attacking me is out frustration with your own
>impotence and ineptitude. The last thing the police would have told
>you to do was broadcast a message to six newsgroups warning the
>perpetrator that the police were coming and to shred any child
>pornography that might still be on his hard drive.
I never thought your pal had porn on his hard disk- rather he advertised that I
was a dealer in it to have me harassed!! Get the point!? This is how your
masters fight!