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Last known address:
The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada

Prologue:
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)

Ken "McBray" (as in a braying ass) McVay, Director of The Nizkor Project, on
record as claiming he receives American funding via the San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund and he now denies ever receiving any money or having
any connection with San Antonio!!

WHAT GIVES McVAY?

HERE IS KEN McVAY CONFIRMING HIS SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - NIZKOR FUND(ING):

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
x-search: http://search.nizkor.org/search.html

In article <5SEP199606431...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>,
dmittle...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:

>>McVay, Kenneth (KM1343) kmc...@NIZKOR.ALMANAC.BC.CA
>> 462 - 1150 North Terminal Avenue
>> Nanaimo, BC V9S 5T8
>> CA 1-604-382-0615

> As Giwer has been so kind to repeatedly post this address, I would like
> to point out that while this is not the best address to use, you can
> send contributions to the Nizkor Project to this address. They will be
> properly received and placed to good use. You will receive a Canadian
> Tax receipt for your donation (which will work just fine in Canada no
> matter what Matt Giwer insists). If you wish to make an American
> contribution for an American tax receipt, there is a different address
> (which maybe Giwer will decide to post one day.)

Correct - but using that address may result in a delay of up
to a month in issuance of your receipt. It would be best to
use the address posted at http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html:

Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project...

In the United States, checks should be made payable to:

"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"

and should be mailed to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

We thank Dr. Mittleman for pointing this out, and thank all of
you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project.

The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.

Mr. Giwer complained of insufficient bandwidth, and I note with
satisfaction that he no longer does so. I confess, however, that
further improvements with regard to Nizkor's bandwidth will require
a few more months of patience. We regret keeping Mr. Giwer waiting.

[...]

Since Mr. Giwer's complaints, as noted above, Nizkor has put
your generous donations to good use, and added an additional 15
gigs of storage and five full mirror sites to our network.

<<Tavish comment: Mr. Giwer is an American citizen living in America so
if he donated to Nizkor as McVay claimed above then he would have had to
do it through the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund">>

We thank Mr. Giwer for providing us with all the motivation needed
to continue improving our service to the Internet, and for his
daily reminder that Nizkor's addresses are readily available:

Canadian donations should be made payable to

Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project...

In the United States, checks should be made payable to:

"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"

and should be mailed to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

In closing, our thanks to Dr. Mittleman for mentioning our
addresses in this context. Please, Sir, feel free to continue
to do so. I'm sure Mr. Giwer will accommodate you by publishing
reminders on a regular basis.

He wouldn't want to keep you waiting, Sir, now would he?

--
The Nizkor Project | http://www.nizkor.org/

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/quebec.general/msg/46868da0ffff43e5
(Archived locally as: SAAF_2)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Re: McVay's Addresses & Phone Numbers again
Date: 1996/09/15
Message-ID: <51hqme$b...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project

William Gruber-Grosvenor-Acumen-Wahrheit wrote:

>Since OyVey likes to have everyone contact him at home, for more money
>according to his own messages,here again are his address and phone numbers:

> Kenneth McVay
> 462 - 1150 North terminal Avenue
> Nanaimo, BC V9S 5T8
> Phone - 604-382-0615

>Hope this helps you, and others, who may wish to discuss with
>Ken aspects of the truth about Jewish control.....

Although it is kind of Mr. Grosvenor-Gruber-Acumen-Wahrheit to
provide this information, there are some minor errors which,
as is usually the case, have appeared in his article.

... The correct information for donations is as
follows:
Canada

Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable to...

In the United States, checks should be made payable to:

"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"

and should be mailed to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

Tel: (210) 225-2243
Fax: (210) 225-1980

--
Nizkor Canada | http://www.nizkor.org

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
X-Deja-AN: 160389285
references: <4or264$1a...@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>
<31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net> <4pv7ht$7...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>
<4pvcb1$d...@boris.eden.com>
organization: The Nizkor Project

In article <4pvcb1$...@boris.eden.com>, mcur...@eden.com (Mike Curtis) wrote:

>mgi...@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) wrote:

"Supposedly a synagogue is collected tax free
contributions for Nizkor even though Nizkor does not
have tax exempt status. "

>This is the Troll who has to put his stamp on every thread no matter
>what.

But he's our troll :-)

Let him explain this one:

In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:

SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund

and should be mailed to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

[...]

--
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
(Archived locally as: SAAF_4)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
X-Deja-AN: 160371476
organization: The Nizkor Project

In article <31c2fa3a.16855...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote, in response to my
suggestion that he actually do some research:

>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.

Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to

Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project...

In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:

SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund

and mail them to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.

By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.

--
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/902eaf428653b71
(Archived locally as: McVayAdmitsSAAF_1 and McVayAdmitsSAAF_2)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Date: 1997/06/05
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>

>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor.

American funds donated to The Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area
Foundation...

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
(Archived locally as: McVayAdmitsSAAF_3 and McVayAdmitsSAAF_4)
From: km...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Date: 1997/05/22
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
References: <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7cfc619ab544096d
(Archived locally as: mSteinSAAF-Niz-Fund)
Organization: The Nizkor Project

In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: Notice that Ken McVay did not disagree with Mike
Stein stating: "In the United States, it is channeled through the Nizkor Fund of
the San Antonio Area Foundation...?">>

...Canadian _national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation...
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San Antonio
Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization dealing with human rights
organizations like Nizkor... Frankly, I am gratified when Nizkor's data is
attacked on the basis of our funding partners...

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: Notice Ken McVay includes the "Nizkor Fund of the
San Antonio Area Foundation" as a "funding partner?">>

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/edb3f778bc812d49
(Archived locally as: McVaySAAF-Giwer_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 1996/08/22
Message-ID: <4vikjj$4...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>

(Yale F. Edeiken) responded to Matt Giwer's
denial of the authenticity of the Himmler tape:

>The National Archives which hs the original says differently, of
>course. But what do they know.

If Mr. Giwer is prepared to pay the full cost of voiceprint analysis of the
disputed tape and adequate control samples, should scientific analysis
demonstrate that the tape is a genuine recording of Heinrich Himmler, the Nizkor
Project is prepared to negotiate and conclude a legally binding agreement for
the purpose of determining the authenticity of the recording...

If the recording is determined to be genuine by reasonable scientific standards,
Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San
Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation. If the recording
is determined to be fraudulent by reasonable scientific standards, the trust
funds will be returned to Mr. Giwer immediately, and the Nizkor Project will
immediately tender reasonable interest on the full amount to Mr. Giwer, and meet
the cost of establishing and maintaining the trust account...

Mr. Giwer is invited to have his attorney contact me to initiate negotiations
leading to the conclusion of such an agreement. (For the purposes of this offer,
and subsequent agreement, I designate Mr. Edeiken as my attorney of record,
and hereby authorize him to negotiate this matter in my name and to bill me for
appropriate professional fees...

<<Tavish comment July 2, 2005: Funny that Ken McVay shows he is connected to
the "San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund" above yet Ken McVay later claims:
"Mr. Bradbury should document his claim that Mr. McVay and/or The Nizkor Project
has any connection with any American group using the word "Nizkor" in its name."
(Isn't the "San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund" an American group who is
your funding partner as you have claimed? See how easy it is to catch McBray in
his lies?) AND "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor
Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." Well Ken McBray you are archived as stating and
I show it higher up in this post as saying: "In the United States, checks in
support of the work of The Nizkor Project should be made payable to: SAN ANTONIO
AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" which only proves I have caught you lying yet
again!!>>

<END>

AFTER PUBLICLY DECLARING ALL OF THE ABOVE:
NOW HERE IS KEN McVAY IN TOTAL DENIAL ABOUT EVER RECEIVING MONEY FROM THE "SAN
ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - NIZKOR FUND" OR EVEN BEING CONNECTED WITH IT!!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/4f122dc938979079
(Archived locally as: SAAFnot_1)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.canada,can.taxes,bc.general
Subject: Texan Scott Bradbury's NIZKOR Tax Lie
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:24:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Lines: 333
Message-ID: <9cva5v$1nm8$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <e7112f68f572281d...@remailer.segfault.net>
X-Trace: news.tht.net 989015040 57032 216.126.72.25 (4 May 2001 22:24:00 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test72 (19 April 1999)

In article <e7112f68f572281db907466bdf994...@remailer.segfault.net>,
an anonymous coward asked:

>Here is a real dilemma. Which entity is lying- Nizkor (Ken McVay) or B'nai
>Brith the Funding Arm of Nizkor (Ken McVay)?

Neither, but Mr. Bradbury is, as I've pointed out, too stupid to
figure it out for himself. Not only is Mr. Bradbury too stupid to
understand the answer - he is also too stupid to understand the
question.

Perhaps Mr. Bradbury should begin by resolving "www1.us.nizkor.org"
and discovering where it is located.

Then Mr. Bradbury should try to demonstrate that Mr. McVay (or B'nai
Brith, or Bugs Bunny) owns the Hebrew word "Nizkor."

He will fail, of course. That's what Mr. Bradbury _does_.

Then Mr. Bradbury should document his claim that Mr. McVay and/or The
Nizkor Project has any connection with any American group using the
word "Nizkor" in its name.

He will fail, of course. That's what Mr. Bradbury _does_.

Mr. Bradbury could obtain the legal papers for the organization he
claims I am connected with (in San Antonio, Texas), but they would
show no such connection, and Mr. Bradbury would look even more foolish
than he does now.

One can get a fair understanding of Mr. Bradbury's credibility,
however, by considering the following legal document, presented during
a civil suit which Mr. Bradbury lost. The allegations listed in this
document have been accepted as _fact_ by the Judge:

Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-RA.01
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14

=============================================================================
Tavish New Addition July 1, 2005: The old pull out the failed lawsuit routine
when I prove beyond any doubt you are lying!! That lawsuit was dismissed and
anyone researching it will see it is filled with many libels and much perjury!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
Message-ID: <7faub15n5pmv10mtk...@4ax.com>
----------------------------------------------------------
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c7d6394427adce0f
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts?....
Message-ID: <rsb1c154lppiqupi1...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jun 2005 02:03:08 GMT

That lawsuit is as credible as you are McVay!
=============================================================================

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?q=&rnum=3
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1 and McVayEXHIBIT1b)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>

"What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright. The Nizkor
Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States.
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"...

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: I have SUCCEEDED to "demonstrate that The Nizkor
Project, which (You) direct, has\had association with the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund." so live with it. The archives higher up prove what a
liar you are you con-man!! That is because you aren't too bright Ken McVay!>>

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26
(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.13...@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT

>Larry "I'm really not TubbyBlubber" Mondello wrote:
>
>Question for Ken McVay; What Happened to the SAAF Funds You Denied Receiving?
>In the following two archives you claim as late as January 4, 2001:
>"The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
>United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
>money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" AND you are also
>on record as stating: "...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
>me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio,
>and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it" on June 2, 2000.

The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" AND you are also
on record as stating: "...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio,
and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it" on June 2, 2000.

http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation

==================================================================================
<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: You must have forgotten you have this archived at
Nizkor because it plainly shoots your claim above right out of the saddle
pardner!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996 Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada... <END>

<<Tavish comment: The text plainly stated: "a $50,000 grant from the
philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project" so now why do
you now claim: "The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone
else, to my knowledge"?>>
==================================================================================

(This is kind of fun. You keep making an ass of yourself, and I'll keep
laughing at you.)

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: You are definitely the one who has made an ass of
yourself you lying little shite con-man McBray!!!>>

--
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
<END>

MORE KEN McVAY AND KEN LEWIS DENIAL

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/d314911d223998d9
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2)
From: P_R_I_V_A_T_E--C_I_T_I_Z_E_N
Subject: Nizkor's Ken McVay Just Keeps on Lying and Lying aka Re: Jamie McCarthy
Confirmed Nizkor Received Funding from The San Antonio Area Foundation
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:47:59 -0600
Message-ID: <n6512ucptvdf8ls70...@4ax.com>
References: <medc1uo5mkqclkq96...@4ax.com>
<9v923d$q1f$1...@venn.bc.ca> <9v9an2$2q10$1...@news.tht.net>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/9ecc0a6b9b217b2
(Archived locally as: McVaySnipped_1)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: Jamie McCarthy Confirmed Nizkor Received Funding from The San
Antonio Area Foundation
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:27:14 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Lines: 38
Message-ID: <9v9an2$2q10$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <medc1uo5mkqclkq96...@4ax.com>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/9f04115dd5e37f6c
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2C)
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 04:27:14 +0000 (UTC), <9v9an2$2q1...@news.tht.net>
kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

>In article <9v923d$q1...@venn.bc.ca>,
>Robert Broughton <rbron...@brou8ghton.ca> wrote:
>>In <medc1uo5mkqclkq96b8proi9lvf3gv6...@4ax.com>, T-A-V wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> NIZKOR FUNDING:
>>> CANADA & THE UNITED STATES

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: Notice Ken McVay snipped out his United States
Nizkor Funding contact which I had shown in my original? Why didn't Ken McVay
want: "In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
made payable to: San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" shown?>>

>>>
>>> CANADA
>>>
>>> Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable to
>>>
>>> The Zikaron Society / Nizkor Fund
>>>
>>> Please mail your cheque to
>>>
>>> The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society 6540 East Hastings
>>> Street, Suite 221
>>> Burnaby, BC
>>> V5B 4Z5
>>>
>>> Canadian income tax receipts will be issued.
:
>>Thanks for posting this. I'll be mailing in a donation as soon as I get my
>>next paycheque.

"A fool and his money are soon parted." Old Proverb

>Hi, Bob! Just thought I'd let you know that this information, like
>most of what Scott Bradbury posts, is 3-5 years out of date. Zikaron
>doesn't handle Nizkor's funding, and hasn't since early 1997...

I did not claim that Zikaron still funded Nizkor. I posted Jamie McCarthy's post
in full context as it was archived to catch you in your lies. You claim you
never received funding from the San Antonio Area Foundation yet Jamie McCarthy's
post (the part you cut out) proves that S.A.A.F. was a funding agency of yours!

Here is what you deleted:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e4f05aa66b6909c
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2D)
From: j...@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy)
Subject: Re: the new, revised Nizkor
Date: 1996/12/03
Message-ID: <jamie-03129...@clmx43.dial.voyager.net>
X-Deja-AN: 202208541
references: <3298694d...@news.gte.net>
organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc.
newsgroups: alt.revisionism

[...]

In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
made payable to:

San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund

and should be mailed to:

San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

American donors may deduct contributions as provided in section 170 of
the Internal Revenue Code. Bequests, legacies, devises, transfers, or
gifts are deductible for federal, estate, and gift tax purposes if
they meet the applicable provisions of Code sections 2055, 2106 and
2522.

We very much appreciate your donations, which assist in the
development and enhancement of The Nizkor Project website. Thank You.
--
Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/

~~End of Restoration~~

Either Jamie lied or you have lied. Jamie claims the above YET you have claimed:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2E)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:31:43 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <11675tc1ol0s368hh...@4ax.com>
<9301l3$m88$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
X-Trace: news.tht.net 978654703 57021 216.126.72.25 (5 Jan 2001 00:31:43 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org

>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> [...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Also Ken McVay has claimed through Ken Lewis:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2eb5f5e92b10f6c8
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2F)
From: kle...@netbbistro.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,can.taxes,can.general,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:04:20 GMT
Organization: Electric Zen
Message-ID: <3b7f8413...@news.abccom.bc.ca>
References: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
<hbv6ntcrmm3co3tl5...@4ax.com>

From: kmc...@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The embezzlement question McVay refuses to answer
Date: 2 Jun 2000 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <8h716n$2t9...@news.tht.net>

"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge.

[...]

> Or did you lie (you seem to be good at that lately) about not
> having a Nizkor connection in San Antonio?

I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
to it.

--
The Nizkor Project

>I now add:

The same crap you posted all day yesterday which has already been refuted,
Jeeze, Bradshit, do you not ever read what people post?

<<Tavish comment July 1, 2005: Calling me names and deleting key proofs from
what I post is not refuting me!!>>

[snip]

Say goodnight, Doc.

~~End of Nizkor Archival Excerpt~~

The above shows you in denial YET your other postings agree unanimously with
Jamie McCarthy's statement:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/902eaf428653b71
(Archived locally as: McVayAdmitsSAAF_1 and McVayAdmitsSAAF_2)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Date: 1997/06/05
Message-ID: <5n6ib9$f3h$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>

In article <5n400d$...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:

>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just

The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
(Archived locally as: McVayAdmitsSAAF_3 and McVayAdmitsSAAF_4)
From: km...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Date: 1997/05/22
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Organization: The Nizkor Project

In article <5m11au$...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:

> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.

Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.

In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization....

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

A San Antonio local news paper carried this story:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/95f69c003fc41001
(Archived locally as SAAFnot_2G)
From: "Blakely" <patblak...@mailandnews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: So Nizkor didn't receive $50,000 ?? Major US newspaper says he did.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:43:34 -0400
Organization: Blakely

Message-ID: <9kvsat$8v5$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ac87c790.ipt.aol.com

I guess The San Antonio Express-Times lied also when they published this in
their paper eh Ken?

Just confess, you got the money.

1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people
will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a
little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area
Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of "deniers" (as McVay
calls them)...

http://archives1.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=search&p_perpag
(Bad link text deleted.)

BTW I confirmed the article above at: http://archives1.newsbank.com/
Using their inner link of: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
and using that search engine with the keywords: NIZKOR $50,000
(using conditions Limit Search by Source Name: San Antonio Express-News
Limit Search by Date: all documents

I got:

"1996-08-03
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn promise
Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so that people will
never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has gotten a little
easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation
to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed by the
55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...."

<<The article which Pat Blakely posted is 100% real and authentic! The CCRA just
may be interested in investigating if you owe back taxes and penalties for that
$50,000.00 you received and you continually denying that receiving any money or
funds from the San Antonio Area Foundation as I have shown you have doing above
in this very post! You are a liar McVay! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!>>

Also Ken McVay's own web site carries that same news story which contradicts his
current claims!

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link still active February 16, 2003 and still no disclaimers made!!)
(Archived locally as: San Antonio Express-News960803)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.... <END>

~~End of GOOGLE Archive and Comment~~

From a GOOGLE Web Search I got:

www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
(Archived locally as: Fin2000)
Text version:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
San Antonio Area Foundation

Annual Report 2000
Annual Report 2000

San Antonio Area Foundation
Growing to Give, Giving to Grow

[...]


Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund

[...]

S A N A N T O N I O A R E A F O U N DAT I O N
Post Office Box 120366 I San Antonio, Texas 78212
210-225-2243 I 210-225-1980 Fax
w w w. s a a f d n . o r g

~~End of San Antonio Foundation Report For 2000~~

Looks like McVay has lied through his teeth about his money funneling from San
Antonio. I have made the CCRA aware of McVay's waffling about this matter too!

>See http://www.nizkor.org/funding.html for current information - you
>won't get it from "tavish."

Once again you lie through your teeth. I showed the new link in my post too!
Now I ask- how many lies have I caught you in now you dishonest con-man?

My original Message ID (as shown in the headers above)
medc1uo5mkqclkq96...@4ax.com shows that I gave the link you
falsely claimed I left out!! See how easy it is to catch con-man McVay in his
lies?

Here is my original post's link in GOOGLE archives for verification:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/9f04115dd5e37f6c?dmode=source&hl=en
(Use the link above to verify the Message ID referenced in McVay's post.)
From: T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPHENSta-v-ish...@ix.ne-tc-om.com>
Newsgroups:
bc.general,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,can.general
Subject: Jamie McCarthy Confirmed Nizkor Received Funding from The San Antonio
Area Foundation (Also ADL=GESTAPO)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:57:06 -0600
Organization: none
Message-ID: <medc1uo5mkqclkq96...@4ax.com>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/9f04115dd5e37f6c

I now ask- what is it about people who still would wish to donate money to a
person who is so obvious in his dishonesty?

Doc Tavish

More of McBray's documented lies:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.history.what-if/msg/bb5199018d2a99bc
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V2-2 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:00 -0500
Message-ID: <7faub15n5pmv10mtk...@4ax.com>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be
the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
V2.0 Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtu...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT

B'nai Brith has also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/56c62b82ce6a0edb
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2...@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
Ken McVay has aided and abetted communist David Lethbridge as well!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.portuguese/msg/40e2a82de0029cb2
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
Message-ID: <p0afnvchj52pcuh6c...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:54 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: <vd4sb1d8mo7qs9np0...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

~~Famous Last Words from Jail Bird Ken McVay~~
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.taxes/msg/2ba3f0891b79cf80
(Archived locally as: McVayCarThief_1 AND McVayCarThief_2)
From: "Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org>
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.taxes
Subject: Re: Bracegirdles Both Deserve Jail,Also Auditors-Crown Appeals
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:46:13 -0800
Organization: The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org

"Ken McVay, OBC" <spam...@nizkor.org> did write:

>It seems Bill Grosvenor is still afraid to publish under his own name.
>That's because he has no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone
>convicted, of any crime,

Is that so? Did this Jewish web site lie when it reported this?

http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=135&pid=21
(Link active February 11, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay)
Also: http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PublicationsPrint.asp?did=135
(Link active February 23, 2004. Archived locally as JailbirdMcVay2)

The American Jewish Committee

"Hate and the Internet by Kenneth S. Stern
On-Line Approaches
"My whole agenda is to try and remove their market, as it were. They have an
agenda to sell. If, by demonstrating that they are lying about a specific issue,
I can remove a few hundred people from their potential market place, then I’ve
done them some harm." – Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail.... <END>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Oooops looks like you have been caught lying again McVay! The "American Jewish
Committee" reported: "Ken McVay, Project Nizkor In 1956 Ken McVay stole his
father’s car and ran away from home. Apprehended, he spent his 16th birthday in
a Bellingham, Washington, jail" YET you stated above: "he has no evidence that I
have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime"!
Isn't being "Apprehended" the same thing as being "arrested"?
WordNet 2.0 Vocabulary Helper: apprehended
The verb apprehend has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (2) get the picture, comprehend, savvy, dig, grasp, compass, apprehend -- get
the meaning of something; ``Do you comprehend the meaning of this letter?''
2. (1) collar, nail, apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody;
``the police nabbed the suspected criminals'' )
3. apprehend, quail at -- (anticipate with dread or anxiety)
-----
Which sense of "apprehended" applies to you Ken McVay? ANSWER: "collar, nail,
apprehend, arrest, pick up, nab, cop -- (take into custody; ``the police
nabbed the suspected criminals'' )

Care to deny it Jail Bird McVay? Here's laughing at you!! You did state: "he has
no evidence that I have ever been arrested, let alone convicted, of any crime.."
BUT you were apprehended or arrested for the crime of car theft and you were
jailed! Once again you are exposed as a liar! You weren't convicted because
charges evidently weren't pressed by your father!

The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
1-250-616-9431
1-416-966-0461
1-417-781-3282
wpg...@kenmcvay.com
kmc...@nizkor.org
KMC...@VERITAS.NIZKOR.ORG


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Doc Tavish

unread,
Aug 24, 2005, 8:48:09 AM8/24/05
to
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:41:08 -0000, <11gmntk...@corp.supernews.com>
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <USHOe.129$Ma3...@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
>USNSM <us...@usnsm.org> wrote:
>>It's called factual information that Tavish is giving out. Something you
>>have yet to do in over 10 years.

And here it is and notice all Ken McVay can do is engage in ad hominem in reply
to the fact that I exposed him for being a brazen liar with his own documented
words!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Older superseded version:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/169856b1891b5734?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A3 and McVaySlamDunked_A4)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V2-0
Message-ID: <luodc15oatkp5kver...@4ax.com>
Date: 2 Jul 2005

>Blubberbury wouldn't know factual information if it smacked his mobirdly obese ass.
>Neither, it is clear, would you.

Let us see- you can only make personal attacks and I gave facts so you fulfill
my Maxim of Debate!

"If I hear something being debated pertaining to a subject that I am not
cognizant of, therefore impartial, I examine the manner of the debate and
conduct. I know who is telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics
employed- the liar always attacks the opposing person and the truth teller
always attacks the opposing premise!"
-Subject: Tavish Maxim Concerning Debate.
-Date: 1997/12/09
-Message-ID: <348ccbc4....@news.smart1.net>

The Socialists/Marxists/Leftists/Liberals or whatever name they choose
to exist under are the primary users of smear and innuendo thus they
typically resort to personal attacks instead of dealing in FACT.

Now compare what Ken said in reply to what I posted: "Blubberbury wouldn't know
factual information if it smacked his mobirdly obese ass" to an excerpt of what
I posted and everyone make a judgment of who has character and who doesn't and
who shows documented fact and who can only name call:

All of the following are USENET posts Ken McVay himself made and notice how they
contradict each other!!

First he claims to receive donations through the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION -
Nizkor Fund" and then later in time he is in total denial!!!

[...]

<END>

William Gruber-Grosvenor-Acumen-Wahrheit wrote:

<END>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe


(Archived locally as: McVayAdmitsSAAF_3 and McVayAdmitsSAAF_4)
From: km...@veritas.nizkor.org (Ken McVay)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Date: 1997/05/22
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Organization: The Nizkor Project
In article <5m11au$...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.

...Canadian _national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation...


In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San Antonio
Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization dealing with human rights
organizations like Nizkor... Frankly, I am gratified when Nizkor's data is
attacked on the basis of our funding partners...

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

HERE IS LIAR KEN McVAY NOW CONTRADICTING ALL HE CLAIMED AND POSTED ABOVE!!!

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?


(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1 and McVayEXHIBIT1b)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>

"What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright. The Nizkor
Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States.
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"...

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26


(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.13...@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
>Larry "I'm really not TubbyBlubber" Mondello wrote:
>
>Question for Ken McVay; What Happened to the SAAF Funds You Denied Receiving?

>In the following two archives you claim as late as January 4, 2001...

...The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the


United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any

money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" ...The San Antonio


Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no

connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it... (This is


kind of fun. You keep making an ass of yourself, and I'll keep laughing at you.)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

All Ken McVay has is making personal attacks, name calling, and hurling insults
which doesn't refute the fact that he has been caught lying about his funding!

SPECIAL BONUS: Notice Ken McVay stated emphatically above: "Neither The Nizkor


Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area

Foundation - Nizkor Fund" ...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
me.." YET his own web site has this contradictory page:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)

Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/expre­ss-news.960803

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada... <END>

I wonder what McVay did with that $50,000 he denies receiving!!!!

More dishonesty about Ken McVay aka The Nizkor Project aka NIZKOR.ORG:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be
the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
V2.0 Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtu...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3


Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

P.S. McVay also willfully passes off forgeries as being authentic and this
archive proves it!

James Fenimoore

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In article <43rog1l3p5ogjr8qb...@4ax.com>, rhc-tavish@tavish-central says...

If the above is true then you lied when you posted this regarding you getting
donations;


"In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566"

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> ~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
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>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26
>(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
>Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
>Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.13...@news.nnrp.ca>
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
>>Larry "I'm really not TubbyBlubber" Mondello wrote:
>>
>>Question for Ken McVay; What Happened to the SAAF Funds You Denied Receiving?
>>In the following two archives you claim as late as January 4, 2001...
>
>...The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
>United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any
>money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" ...The San Antonio
>Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no
>connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it... (This is
>kind of fun. You keep making an ass of yourself, and I'll keep laughing at you.)

If the above is true then you lied when you posted this regarding you getting
donations;


"In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566"

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