It's learning time.
Maniac
Maniac
KCOM
>
>Back to the
basics and the truth.
>
>
>Maniac
>
>
>
>
ANY OTHER REVISIONIST, bend over, grip yer ankles, pucker yer lips, and close
yer eyes, YER ABOUT TO GET FUCKED IN THE ARSE BIGTIME.
david_michael
why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
David
"KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.co.uk> wrote in message
news:V%2u6.263$fy....@www.newsranger.com...
KCOM
What we're talking about has nothing to do with Kneisel.
Steve
steve wolk
david_michael wrote:
>
> Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech. That's
> why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
> by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
>
> David
You are under no obligation to read Mr. Kneisel's posts, mr. michael.
Now, if spam is a dish not to your liking, I suggest you speak with your
obese friend, Scott Whalebury, about the lunatic rants with which he
infests Usenet.
Steve
KCOM
Noticed when the revisionists floods the NG it's considered by them as "good
reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't want to
hear it's called "SPAM"?
Steve
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Hey Steve, your pal Yale will have to answer for his subpoenaing my
medical records and posting alleged details from them. What he did was
unethical because his obtaining my medical records has nothing to do with
his lawsuit and for sure his posting alleged details of my medical records
to USENET served no purpose other than leaving me opened to the type of
abusive insults I have taken since Sept 22, 2000.
I refer to what Yale posted as alleged details because of his penchant for
telling lies and fabrications. Here is one of many documented examples of
what I am talking about:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
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Message-ID: <JT6z5.795$np1.1...@newshog.newsread.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:46:01 GMT
Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com> wrote in message
news:kr8osscef1a47ihc0...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 21, 2001: You're about to reap a real whirlwind
Yale. You have been identified as "nazihunter" who incited murder against
me and you subpoenaed medical records, thus invading my privacy, and then
made alleged details public which is against PA Code. See the proof at the
bottom of this post. I will press every charge I can against you too!>>
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As for Yale's statement: "You have been tppld to exercise and lose
weight"- I was NOT told such and I was NEVER told anything about my weight
and for a fact the discharge summary of Hermann Hospital for my December
22, 1999 discharge date had neither my height nor weight on the document.
The document did not even have fields for height or weight!
In the future the document will be presented to a court showing invasion
of privacy, inciting harassment against a person of disability (which is
my legal status!), and making false defamatory statements to a public
forum as an attorney against a defendant in order to have him harassed!
Proof of what I claim:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=2&seld=928432237&ic=1
From: Doc Tavish (NOSPAMdo...@my-deja.com)
Subject: My Most Sincere Thanks to Ken McVay For Making Such of Well Made
Archive! Thank You Thank You Thank You R 3
Date: 2001-02-08 04:05:07 PST
Subject: Re: Delusional Yale F. Edeiken Spews His Dementia
Date: 12/31/1999
Author: Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net>
I, Doc Tavish, had stated:
>The document did not detail any of the complaints nor any date. Fair warning:
>With my complex medical problems and now not even being able to drive my
>own personal vehicle how do you expect any judge to order me to your state
>over what is plainly a frivolous lawsuit?
(Yale F. Edeiken replies):
It is amazing that you have been able to determine this. Given your
threats of violence, no judge would, under any circumstance, fail to order
your appearance at a deposition. Whatever accomodations might be
otherwise made are now out the question.
You just dig yourself in deeper with every post.
~~~End of DejaCom Archive~~~
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
wish to verify this then contact:
Hermann Hospital
Medical Records
P.O. Box 200758
Houston, Texas 77216-0758
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
~~~END~~~
Notice the ONLY document I said you could verify? I even gave its number!
Its number is: 50 04882 6 9356
I did not authorize you to make it public and for a fact, which I will
prove at a later time, the document has no such diagnosis as "morbid
obesity" nor my height nor weight yet you posted these as being details
from my medical records:... <an example is the post I detailed above
using the link:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1>
~~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~~
Here are Pennsylvania Statutes which Yale F. Edeiken is subject to and
notice what is said about what he did!
Pennsylvania Code ... and cannot be released without an order ...
authorizing such a court order. ... notice of certain
medical records had no impact ... 55 Pa. Code 3800.20 (relating ...
http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/055/chapter5100/s5100.35.html
5100.35. Release to courts.
(a) Each facility director shall designate one or more persons as a
records officer, who shall maintain the confidentiality of client/patient
records in accordance with this chapter.
(b) Records shall comply with the following:
(1) Whenever a client/patient's records are subpoenaed or otherwise
made subject to discovery proceedings in a court proceeding, other than
proceedings authorized by the act, and the patient/client has not
consented or does not consent to release of the records, no records should
be released in the absence of an additional order of court...
(3) If it is known that a patient has a current attorney of record for
the given proceedings, that attorney shall be informed of the request of
subpoena, if not already served with a copy, and shall be expected to
represent and protect the client/patient s interests in the
confidentiality of the records....
The Department cites: 42 U.S.C. 290-dd-32; 71 P.S. 1690.1083; 50 P.S.
71114; 28 Pa. Code 211.5(c)5; 43 Pa. Code 1.2(a) and (b)6. These statutes
and regulations, according to the Department, generally provide that
absent an emergency or a court order, MEDICAL RECORDS CANNOT BE DISCLOSED
WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE PATIENT (emphasis added by Doc Tavish)
http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/797shay.html
Clinical laboratories must treat as confidential records and reports of
examinations. Similar requirements apply to nursing facilities, home
health agencies and ambulatory surgery centers.
In addition to the foregoing statutory and regulatory standards of
confidentiality, the courts in Pennsylvania have recognized an
individual s privacy interests in medical information. Unauthorized
disclosure of medical information may be actionable as an invasion of
privacy...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTW Steve I am getting quite adept at using GOOGLE and I am pulling up as
many examples of being called "Morbidly Obese", Blubberbury, Fatbury etc.
by you and all of your pals that I can. The posts you made will be like
whip lashes on the back of an unethical bastard who thinks he's above the
law! Keep running the damages up!
BTW I did issue this challenge to another one of your slanderous pals who
can only make personal attack concerning what my medical record from
Hermann Hospital said:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:34:18 GMT, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
wrote:
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
>>You've never seen me so how can you make such an erroneous statement dick
>>wad?
>Your medical records, SuperSleuth -- the ones you gave directions to
>obtaining.
You mean the medical record that I referred to in the following which I
personally gave Edeiken permission to verify as in:
Subject: Delusional Yale F. Edeiken Spews His Dementia
Date: 12/30/1999
Author: Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
[...]
[Addressed to Yale F. Edeiken at the time of the original public posting.]
Additional information-- I know how you like to invade my privacy and
issue subpoenas. You think I made the above up to escape your deposition
but the order about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight
whole days before I had an official notice that you had even filed a
lawsuit! If you wish to verify this then contact:
Hermann Hospital
Medical Records
P.O. Box 200758
Houston, Texas 77216-0758
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being
able to work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<END>
Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented I
will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" and I
want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid Obesity"
or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does NOT
even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
Doc Tavish
---
"If you stop fabricating lies about me, I will stop disclosing the
truth about you." Adapted from UKRAINE ORGANIZATION'S Terms of Truce
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steve wolk
"McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)" wrote:
>
> --
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:46:12 GMT, steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >david_michael wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech. That's
> >> why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
> >> by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
> >>
> >> David
>
> >You are under no obligation to read Mr. Kneisel's posts, mr. michael.
> >Now, if spam is a dish not to your liking, I suggest you speak with your
> >obese friend, Scott Whalebury, about the lunatic rants with which he
> >infests Usenet.
> >
> >Steve
Another of Whalebury's lunatic rants follows. How many pizzas did you
have for breakfast today, Snottie?
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:28:33 GMT, steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
>
>"McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)" wrote:
>>
>> --
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:46:12 GMT, steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >david_michael wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech. That's
>> >> why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
>> >> by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
>> >>
>> >> David
>>
>> >You are under no obligation to read Mr. Kneisel's posts, mr. michael.
>> >Now, if spam is a dish not to your liking, I suggest you speak with your
>> >obese friend, Scott Whalebury, about the lunatic rants with which he
>> >infests Usenet.
>> >
>> >Steve
>Another of Whalebury's lunatic rants follows. How many pizzas did you
>have for breakfast today, Snottie?
>
>Steve
I just love the blatantly stupid. Thanks Steve! Why didn't you have the
guts to accept my challenge? Afraid of the truth?
Once again here is the challenge:
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
<end>
It is easier for people like Steve to continue in ignorance rather than
taking the effort to find the truth. Your behavior reflects on you and
your side Steve! What does it say of your character when you attempt to
capitalize on false information propagated by a dishonest attorney?
You are a coward.
Stay stupid.
Doc Tavish
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Authentic Doc Tavish
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david_michael
"KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
news:3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
>
> steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >david_michael wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech.
That's
> >> why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam
campaign
> >> by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
> >>
> >> David
> >
> >
> >
> >You are under no obligation to read Mr. Kneisel's posts, mr. michael.
I know. I don't read 99% of them. And it's Dr Michael to you.
> >Now, if spam is a dish not to your liking,
It is very nice with beans and chips.
> I suggest you speak with your
> >obese friend, Scott Whalebury, about the lunatic rants with which he
> >infests Usenet.
What has Bradbury got to do with Kneisel's spam?
> >Steve
>
> Noticed when the revisionists floods the NG it's considered by them as
"good
> reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't want to
> hear it's called "SPAM"?
> Steve
So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other
side to do it?
What about those of us who would like to participate in intelligent
discussion without having to wade through tons of much-repeated crap?
David
KCOM
"McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit) " <DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com>
Yo Lard Ass:
If I were yee (which I'm not praise The Heavenly Father) I wouldn't be talking
about about being stupid or a coward.
Steve
KCOM
Micheal doing intelligent discussion? That's a laugh! BTW, SHE'S BACK!
Steve
Dobr...@webtv.net
Re: It's learning time.
Group: alt.revisionism Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2001, 4:18pm (PST+8) From:
david_...@onetel.net.uk (david_michael)
That's why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current
spam campaign by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that
alt.revisionism has seen.
David
The Nazis are also not fond of freedom. Right, David?
Joe Bruno
Respect is a two- way street
http://www.trachtman.org/MIDI/Joplin/magnetic.mid
david_michael
"KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
So you have no answer?
> BTW, SHE'S BACK!
Ah -- the old 'when caught in a corner make incoherent remarks' ploy.
> Steve
David
Cooter
Does Bradbury posting proofs of his contentions upset you?
Does it bother you to see one of your fellow's caught in
numerous lies and making death threats? Truth is a bitter pill
for worms like you to swallow.
--CooterBob--
Steven Mock
> "KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
> news:3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
> > Noticed when the revisionists floods the NG it's considered by them as "good
>
> > reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't want to
> > hear it's called "SPAM"?
> > Steve
>
> So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other
> side to do it?
Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr. Michael. It
was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's addresses
and other personal information to the newsgroup.
Steven Mock
--
"I may not agree with your bumper sticker;
but I'll defend your right to stick it." - Ed Anger
david_michael
"Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
news:3AB91B5E...@nizkor.org...
> david_michael wrote:
>
> > "KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
> > > Noticed when the revisionists floods the NG it's considered by them as
"good
> >
> > > reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't
want to
> > > hear it's called "SPAM"?
> > > Steve
> >
> > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other
> > side to do it?
>
> Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr. Michael.
It
> was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's
addresses
> and other personal information to the newsgroup.
>
> Steven Mock
A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to whom
people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
revisionists could complain. The other was posted in order to expose
dishonesty on the part of Ms Salzman.
So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
this?
David
Steven Mock
> > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other
> > > side to do it?
> >
> > Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr. Michael. It
>
> > was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's
> > addresses and other personal information to the newsgroup.
>
> A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to whom
> people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
> revisionists could complain.
Right. You claim justification for your endangering of an innocent third party
connected to Mr. Morris on the grounds (false, by the way) that he did it first.
> So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
> this?
Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael? Don't you remember your own words on
the matter?:
> My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to stifle
revisionism on the
> Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult and costly
task for you.
steve wolk
What happened to your killfile, Snottie? Was it corrupted when you
spilled pizza sauce in it? What you call a challenge just looks like
another of your maniacal rants to me, blubberboy. Now go lie down, have
3 or 4 pizzas, and wait until Judge Reibman decides how much you're
going to have to pay Yale. You have my permission to fantasize and tell
us all about the myriad lawsuits you're going to bring - you know, the
same ones you've been talking about for years now but never filed.
That's because, even if they had merit to them, it takes effort to file
a suit, Snotman, and you're nothing but a loony corpulent bigot who is
too lazy to get up off his fat ass and do ANYTHING.
Steve
KCOM
it's your worse nightmare. Think you should go sire some more guinea pigs
Wavvy.
Steve
Sara
DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
[more blather]
> Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead
> of
> wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
> campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
> play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
>
Speaking of ignoring facts, why did your attorney compare you to Adolf
Eichmann?
It's in his written brief, you know.
You _DO_ have a copy of the brief he submitted, don't you?
Since you're so enraged by Ken McVay's posting of Yale's brief, maybe
you should post YOURS. You know, the one from Daylin Leach? The one that
compares you to Eichmann?
Post it, Mr. Bradbury, unless you have something to hide.
Sara
--
"It's always nice to see a prejudice overruled by a deeper prejudice."
John Sayles, _Lone Star_
Sara
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
Dishonesty? When did I ever _deny_ that my father was the doctor in
question? There was no dishonesty. Only your eye-popping hypocrisy and
search for an excuse to harass an innocent man.
Joel Rosenberg
> Hey Steve, your pal Yale will have to answer for his subpoenaing my
> medical records and posting alleged details from them.
Haven't gotten anywhere with pushing that notion, have you, Scotty?
It's getting old.
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:44:43 GMT, steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
>What happened to your killfile, Snottie?
You keep changing your e-mail address. I will kill file your current
fake e-mail address and you will disappear like fart in the wind again!
>Was it corrupted when you spilled pizza sauce in it? What you call a
>challenge just looks like another of your maniacal rants to me, blubberboy.
Name call and personal attack is all you have isn't it?
For the records here is the challenge once again and seeing how Steve
won't step up to the challenge indicates he'd rather continue his smearing
me based on lies.
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
<end>
You are a coward.
Stay stupid.
~~End of Challenge Text~~
>Now go lie down, have 3 or 4 pizzas,
Personal attack again and all based on lies posted by a dishonest
attorney.
>and wait until Judge Reibman decides how much you're
>going to have to pay Yale.
I am not paying Yale anything! You can count on that!
>You have my permission to fantasize and tell us all about the
>myriad lawsuits you're going to bring -
I am not seeking litigation! I am seeking prosecutions!
Posted to John Morris: "BTW John as soon as Tubby's frivolous lawsuit
against me is history then I am going to move to have Tubby prosecuted for
his numerous illegal acts against me whilst in his capacity as the
plaintiff's attorney. (No civil lawsuit BUT CRIMINAL prosecutions!)"
Posted by me 02/08/2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=criminal+prosecutions=rnum=1&seld=928432407&ic=1
"I will for my part see that Yale is prosecuted for his harassing
threatening telephone call and his other illegal acts against me."
Posted by me: 12/16/2000
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=criminal+prosecutions=&rnum=2&seld=950897050&ic=1
"I WON'T FILE CIVIL LAWSUITS-- I WANT CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS."
Posted by me: 01/26/2001
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=criminal+prosecutions=&rnum=3&seld=934131444&ic=1
"I am going to seek criminal prosecutions for multiple offenses
against me!" Posted by me: 10/18/2000
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=criminal+prosecutions=&rnum=5&seld=975780573&ic=1
>you know, the same ones you've been talking about for years now but
>never filed.
You are lying on two counts:
1) It has not been years!
2) I have filed formal complaints
For a FACT- only in recent days do I have substantial proofs to make the
charges stick!
>That's because, even if they had merit to them,
I have shown this to numerous people and they all
agree that my observations and conclusions are sound.
LOOK!
From the document being circulated known as "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT
AND ADMISSIONS ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
COMPLAINT
1 Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken (hereinafter "Plaintiff") is a an
adult citizen and resident of Lehigh County, Pennsylvania.
[...]
51. On December 18, 1999, Defendant published the following
threat to Plaintiff:
Subject: Re: WHERE OR WHERE IS TAVISH - I'm standing behind you with my
Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded.. . . . . . . I'm standing behind you
with my Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded slowly squeezing the trigger
for an excellent one shot- one kill! :-) Sleep on that a whil nazihunter."
Doc Tavish Knowing Time is on His Side
<end>
Now for a reading comprehension test because I know you are stupid
but these questions should be simple enough for you!
1) Who identified himself as the Plaintiff?
2) Who claimed that he was threatened when I posted these words as he
stated them in his "complaint": <I'm standing behind you with my
Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded.. . . . . . . I'm standing behind you
with my Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded slowly squeezing the trigger
for an excellent one shot- one kill! :-) Sleep on that a whil
"nazihunter." :-) Sleep on that a whil "nazihunter." Doc Tavish Knowing
Time is on His Side">
Before I ask the third question I want to make sure you know the answers
to 1 & 2. Do you? Everyone I've showed this to has answered:
Yale F. Edeiken
3) Who did I address my remark to as a matter of legal fact? I state such
in my reply to which Yale F. Edeiken charged: "On December 18, 1999,
Defendant published the following threat to Plaintiff:"?
I addressed as shown in my reply- "nazihunter" YET Yale F. Edeiken charges
that I threatened him! Now I ask:
a) Who claimed to be threatened by me? <Yale F. Edeiken>
b" Who was I, in fact, replying to? <nazihunter>
4) Is it not logical to conclude that Yale F. Edeiken was nazihunter on
the night of December 14th? Everyone of sound mind and reasoning thinks
so!
Only the staunch Edeikenites, such as Steve Wolk, are in denial.
Here is the post and how I replied in actual context:
Subject: Re: WHERE OR WHERE IS TAVISH - I'm standing behind you with my
Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded..
Date: 12/18/1999
Author: Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
On 15-Dec-1999, "nazihunter" <anon...@cotse.com> wrote:
> It seems that ever since Tavish's address was published, he
> seems to have disappeared.
> Has he fled?
> Or, better yet, has someone paid him a visit?
I'm standing behind you with my Desert Eagle .50AE locked and loaded
slowly squeezing the trigger for an excellent one shot- one kill! :-)
Sleep on that a while "nazihunter."
Doc Tavish Knowing Time is on His Side
<END>
Did Yale F. Edeiken or did he not implicate himself as being:
"nazihunter" <anon...@cotse.com>?
Did "nazihunter" <anon...@cotse.com> post this just the night before?
From: "nazihunter"
Subject: WHY NOT GIVE THE NAZI SHITHEAD TAVISH A CALL
Date: 14 Dec 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1999121500...@cotse.com
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Organization: cotse
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Anonymously posted.
The following is the address for Doc Tavish
Scott Bradbury
<address and telephone number deleted>
Why not call him and tell him what a nazi prick he is.
Better yet, why not visit him.......with a baseball bat.
<END>
Another attorney named Paul Tauger posted this concerning posts such as
the above:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Tauger=&rnum=1&seld=935748656&ic=1
"Posting someone's name, address and telephone number, along with an
invitation to visit them with baseball bats sounds fairly close to recent
case in which an a prolife group posted the names of doctors who performed
abortions along with what the court found was tantamount to an invitation
to murder them." Paul Tauger - Attorney January 23, 2001
----------------
>it takes effort to file a suit, Snotman,
The person who doesn't put out any effort is you Steve. Name calling and
personal attack takes no time, research, or any intelligence and name call
and personal attack is ALL you have! Can't you see how you are only making
statements about yourself? I proved you to be ignorant and misinformed
many times in this post but all you have is personal attack.
>and you're nothing but a loony corpulent bigot who is
>too lazy to get up off his fat ass and do ANYTHING.
>
>Steve
Personal attack is ALL you have troll and for a fact you have never
contributed to this news group. You are the same sort as Buck Turgidson
and Patrick Humphrey who cruise the news group looking to attack or
belittle another person. One hardly ever sees anything original from you
three and looking at you archives shows 99% replies and no original posts.
You will be sorely disappointed when perjurers and those who incite murder
get what's coming to them from the legal system.
Need I say more?
Doc Tavish
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>In article <j80ibtore0fj8itit...@4ax.com>,
>DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>[more blather]
>
>> Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead
>> of wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
>> campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
>> play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
>Speaking of ignoring facts, why did your attorney compare you to Adolf
>Eichmann?
My attorney did not compare me to Adolf Eichmann and that is fact.
>It's in his written brief, you know.
>
>You _DO_ have a copy of the brief he submitted, don't you?
Yes I do!
>Since you're so enraged by Ken McVay's posting of Yale's brief, maybe
>you should post YOURS.
If you already know what you think is in it then that means you have
access to it. Why don't you take the time to post it?
>Post it, Mr. Bradbury, unless you have something to hide.
The arguments my attorney submitted on my behalf are not one bit your
business. If you want to spend time doing something then you had better
figure out how you are going to escape for being charged with making
"false statements of fact." Be sure to read my sigline!
>Sara
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stop+bothering=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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>In article <j80ibtore0fj8itit...@4ax.com>,
>DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>[more blather]
>
>> Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead
>> of wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
>> campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
>> play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
>Speaking of ignoring facts, why did your attorney compare you to Adolf
>Eichmann?
My attorney did not compare me to Adolf Eichmann and that is fact.
>It's in his written brief, you know.
>
>You _DO_ have a copy of the brief he submitted, don't you?
Yes I do!
>Since you're so enraged by Ken McVay's posting of Yale's brief, maybe
>you should post YOURS.
If you already know what you think is in it then that means you have
access to it. Why don't you take the time to post it?
>Post it, Mr. Bradbury, unless you have something to hide.
The arguments my attorney submitted on my behalf are not one bit your
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On 21 Mar 2001 23:02:11 GMT, Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>, "david_michael"
><david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>> > Steven Mock
>> A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to whom
>> people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
>> revisionists could complain. The other was posted in order to expose
>> dishonesty on the part of Ms Salzman.
>>
>> So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
>> this?
>>
>> David
>Dishonesty? When did I ever _deny_ that my father was the doctor in
>question? There was no dishonesty. Only your eye-popping hypocrisy and
>search for an excuse to harass an innocent man.
And if it weren't for YOUR big fat mouth and the constant running off of
it and your attempt to defame we would have never even had one thought
about your father. It was YOU who put him into the spotlight so stop
squealing like the stupid pig you are!
You never mind your own business and you are always trying to agitate
people. Now you are reaping what you have sown. Be sure to read my
sigline.
>Sara
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stop+bothering=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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"david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech. That's
>why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
>by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
Hmmm. I seem to recall that your heroes the Nazis weren't too fond of
free speech, either.
--
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|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
Orac
"Maniac" <man...@learn.org> wrote:
>Back to the basics and the truth.
Uh-huh. And who is the arbiter of the "truth"? You?
KCOM
Yeah, but doesn't Michael like to use the double standard?
Steve
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Orac
In other words, Steve Mock is absolutely correct, and you have confirmed
it with your own words. The crux of your argument for posting other
people's addresses IS that they did it first. Thank you for confirming
his argument!
>So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
>this?
He's not. You just admitted as much yourself.
Orac
"KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.edu> wrote:
>Orac <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <3ab8...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>,
>> "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>>>Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech. That's
>>>why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam campaign
>>>by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
>>
>>Hmmm. I seem to recall that your heroes the Nazis weren't too fond of
>>free speech, either.
>>
>Yeah, but doesn't Michael like to use the double standard?
Indeed he does.
Sara
DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
> NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
> substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
> Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
> it
> and I know I am making a safe bet!
>
> <end>
This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
in Court that you are indigent.
Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
steve wolk
THAT IS EXACTLTY what you said about posting addresses and phone
numbers, bright boy.
>
> What about those of us who would like to participate in intelligent
> discussion without having to wade through tons of much-repeated crap?
If you don't want to wade through 'tons of much-repeated crap', don't do
it. It's that simple. It's what I do for Ross Scummins' crap.
Steve
steve wolk
david_michael wrote:
>
> "KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
> news:3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
> >
> > steve wolk <s...@home.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >david_michael wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yes, we all know that communists like to prevent freedom of speech.
> That's
> > >> why the people of Eastern Europe kicked them out. The current spam
> campaign
> > >> by Comrade Kneisel is just one of many that alt.revisionism has seen.
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >You are under no obligation to read Mr. Kneisel's posts, mr. michael.
>
> I know. I don't read 99% of them. And it's Dr Michael to you.
Nope. It's mr. michael to me.
>
> > >Now, if spam is a dish not to your liking,
>
> It is very nice with beans and chips.
>
> > I suggest you speak with your
> > >obese friend, Scott Whalebury, about the lunatic rants with which he
> > >infests Usenet.
>
> What has Bradbury got to do with Kneisel's spam?
You're not smart enough to figure it out? It's quite simple, really.
Steve
>
> > >Steve
> >
> > Noticed when the revisionists floods the NG it's considered by them as
> "good
> > reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't want to
> > hear it's called "SPAM"?
> > Steve
>
> So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other
> side to do it?
>
> What about those of us who would like to participate in intelligent
> discussion without having to wade through tons of much-repeated crap?
>
> David
steve wolk
After a steady diet of crow occasioned by having his own words hurled
back in his face over the years, you would think mr. michael would have
learned to stop lying about his past. It just goes to show that you
can't teach an old Nazi new tricks. Now to sit back and wait for the
usual 'defamation and smear' post from mr. homeland.
Steve
steve wolk
Come back in 2005, he'll still be pumping the same bilge. Only it will
be on a borrowed computer.
Steve
steve wolk
Sara wrote:
>
> In article <s9hibtkha0hfu1edb...@4ax.com>,
> DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
> > substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
> > Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
> > it
> > and I know I am making a safe bet!
> >
> > <end>
>
> This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
> in Court that you are indigent.
>
> Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
The same place he got the $10,000 he bet me about a year ago. He loses,
he renegs. That's the great thing about renegging - you can bet
millions without having a penny. Whalebury is a stiff.
Steve
Patrick L. Humphrey
[most of Fat Ass' babble deleted, to get to this]
>BTW I did issue this challenge to another one of your slanderous pals who
>can only make personal attack concerning what my medical record from
>Hermann Hospital said:
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:34:18 GMT, pat...@io.com (Patrick L. Humphrey)
>wrote:
Wow. You're going to whine at me for something I posted four months ago?
No wonder you're such a quintessential fuck-up, Bradbury...try dealing with
the present.
>>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
>[...]
>>>You've never seen me so how can you make such an erroneous statement dick
>>>wad?
>>Your medical records, SuperSleuth -- the ones you gave directions to
>>obtaining.
>You mean the medical record that I referred to in the following which I
>personally gave Edeiken permission to verify as in:
>Subject: Delusional Yale F. Edeiken Spews His Dementia
>Date: 12/30/1999
>Author: Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMmy-deja.com>
[more BradburySpew (tm) deleted]
>Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented I
>will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" and I
>want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid Obesity"
>or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does NOT
>even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You will not snail mail me anything, nor will you e-mail me anything -- nor
will you contact my parents, employers, acquaintances, or attempt any other
ruse to try and invade my mailbox.
> ~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
>wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
>campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
>play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
You're going to learn what truth is when the court high-sticks your fat ass
with it, Scottie...I didn't take you up on the challenge because there isn't
any challenge. You're a documented liar who's asking me to believe he's
providing an authentic hospital record? A used-car salesman has more
credibility than a parody of a human being like you, Bradbury.
>NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
>substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
>Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
>and I know I am making a safe bet!
...just like you knew there was NO court case against you, right?
You're going to get everything you deserve, Scottie -- and I'm going to
celebrate the end of your dream.
--PLH, part of the steamroller
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>In article <s9hibtkha0hfu1edb...@4ax.com>,
>DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
>> substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
>> Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
>> it and I know I am making a safe bet!
>>
>> <end>
>This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
>in Court that you are indigent.
>
>Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
Why do you think I said: "I know I am making a safe bet."?
I know I will not have to pay bitch! Do you want to substantiate
what Yale claimed and prove that he is not a pathological liar?
I can't see you doing it! Now waddle back to your mire.
For the record here is the original challenge and Yale F. Edeiken's
defamatory lies:
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
Patrick never took me up on the challenge and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<end>
Here is what Yale posted as contents of the above numbered document:
You already have.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I would love nothing more than to submit a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" to
the Disciplinary Board and have them ask Yale what purpose he had to
subpoena the record in the first place and then lie in public postings
about its contents! Do you approve of this activity Sara? I bet you do.
Need I say more to a stupid pig? Nah- read my sigline!
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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On 22 Mar 2001 03:19:00 GMT, Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <s9hibtkha0hfu1edb...@4ax.com>,
>DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
>> substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
>> Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
>> it and I know I am making a safe bet!
>>
>> <end>
>This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
>in Court that you are indigent.
>
>Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
Why do you think I said: "I know I am making a safe bet."?
I know I will not have to pay bitch! Do you want to substantiate
what Yale claimed and prove that he is not a pathological liar?
I can't see you doing it! Now waddle back to your mire.
For the record here is the original challenge and Yale F. Edeiken's
defamatory lies:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
Patrick never took me up on the challenge and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<end>
Here is what Yale posted as contents of the above numbered document:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
You already have.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I would love nothing more than to submit a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" to
the Disciplinary Board and have them ask Yale what purpose he had to
subpoena the record in the first place and then lie in public postings
about its contents! Do you approve of this activity Sara? I bet you do.
Need I say more to a stupid pig? Nah- read my sigline!
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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In <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Wed, 21
Mar 2001 21:35:59 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> "Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
> news:3AB91B5E...@nizkor.org...
> > david_michael wrote:
[snip]
> > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for
> > > the other side to do it?
> > Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr.
> > Michael. It was, after all, the crux of your justification for
> > posting people's addresses and other personal information to the
> > newsgroup.
> A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to
> whom people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of
> 'outing' revisionists could complain.
Lives endangered? My, my. This becomes more dramatic with each
retelling.
Funny how you felt your life endangered, but did nothing, for two
full years after I happened to notice that you inadvertently posted
under a valid userid. Funny how you felt endangered for all that
time, but thereafter posted under your real name. Funny how after
two full years of feeling your life was endangered the reason you
gave for posting my supervisor's home telephone number was that I was
being abusive and defamatory:
Now I wonder what your academic supervisor . . . would say if
he knew that you were using university facilities to post
material that was (a) abusive and (b) defamatory, Mr Morris?
Funny how you have plural lives that feel endangered. Funny how you
never complained yourself (or selves).
> The other was posted in order to expose
> dishonesty on the part of Ms Salzman.
So you felt it was dishonest when it was revealed that Sara's eminent
psychiatrist father was the eminent psychiatrist whose opinion she
offered.
Funny how you could never explain how that was dishonest. Funny how
you could never explain how posting his telephone exposed the
dishonesty.
Funny how you never seem to remember that you also posted contact
information for Gord McFee's boss and threatened to start a campaign
to have him fired.
> So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest
> about this?
Funny, that's the very question that should be asked of you.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:44:00 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
wrote:
>Lives endangered? My, my. This becomes more dramatic with each
>retelling. Funny how you felt your life endangered, but did nothing,
>for two full years...
Sounds like you're describing Yale F. Edeiken!
He accuses me of making an anonymous post giving his name, address, and
telephone number on June 1, 1998 and then a little more than two years
later he decided he was threatened and files a "lawsuit on December 30,
1999!
BTW when are you going to answer for YOUR hypocrisy John?
LOOK!
Subject: John Morris' Pal Acts Up Again and John Remains Silent - John
Approves of Innocent People Being Harassed!
What does this say of John Morris' character?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:31:44 -0600
From: "Public <Anonymous_Account>" <rema...@anon.xg.nu>
Subject: TELL SCOTTIE'S NEIGHBORS AT 15 N. MECHANIC WHAT A PIG HE IS
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <100a58d7a813ae07...@anon.xg.nu>
Mail-To-News-Contact: ab...@dizum.com
Organization: mail...@dizum.com
I'M SURE THAT <names of two innocent people removed> WHO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO
SCOTTIE AT 15 N. MECHANIC STREET IN BELLVILLE ALREADY KNOW WHAT A MORBIDLY
OBESE PIG HE IS.
BUT WHY NOT CALL THEM AT <telephone number removed> AND ASK THEM IF THEY
ARE ALSO AWARE THAT HE IS A CHRONICALLY UNEMPLOYED WELFARE CHEAT.
COURTESY OF NAZIHUNTER
HIYA JOHN!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~END~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Both John Morris and Ken McVay claim they know who this criminal is BUT
they sit on their hands! Just as they deny Yale F. Edeiken being the
"nazihunter" of December 1999 they "deny" through inaction that one on
THEIR side harasses innocent people. I don't expect Ken McVay who is
devoid of any sort of fair play to do any thing but I thought by now
John Morris would stop being a god damned coward! If you know who the
bastard is John then report him. If you know who he is and you don't do
anything then you are just as guilty in many people's eyes.
It is your side and your side alone who makes these sort of terroristic
attacks on innocent people and also invite people to visit others with
baseball bats.
You side also almost to the last person exclusively engages in personal
attack and insult in almost every post made.
Scott
---
"Why don't you filthy swine stop tormenting me with your libel? Now
even that 'ole "Nazi"-hunter, Ken Mcvay, is assaulting me with his
propagandized lies." -- Martin S. Singleton
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Waldo
KCOM <kc...@MailAndNews.co.uk> wrote in message
news:V%2u6.263$fy....@www.newsranger.com...
> In article <99ab9b$fg$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Maniac says...
> >
> >Back to the
> basics and the truth.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> WALDO, RACMAN01, BADASS, BRADBURY, AND
> ANY OTHER REVISIONIST, bend over, grip yer ankles, pucker yer lips, and
close
> yer eyes, YER ABOUT TO GET FUCKED IN THE ARSE BIGTIME.
>
Well . . . . no thanks, Steve.
You see, I'm not "that way".
But don't think I wasn't flattered by the offer!
Waldo
Observer at Large
david_michael
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
news:sn2jbts4285rbr420...@4ax.com...
Funny how you didn't seem to realize the potential consequences of your
'outing' campaign. As a result of you using my correct name when I wished to
post under a nym, you made it possible for them to identify where I lived
with very little effort. Worse still, you allowed idiots like Steve Wolk to
go around identifying other people who share my name as me! There are
numerous organizations in Britain that promote violence against people like
me. A petrol bomb lobbed through my window could have finished off numerous
individuals (both human and rodent) -- not just me. Once you'd let the cat
out of the bag, there was no point in posting under anything other than my
real name.
I note how you have not condemned Edeiken for his campaign to 'out'
revisionists by abusing the legal system.
I note how you have repeatedly purported to know who Nazihunter is and yet
have failed to post his name or one shred of evidence that you do in fact
know this.
And yet you still have the hypocrisy to grumble when I post the address of
someone to whom your victims can complain!
What a hypocrite.
David
david_michael
"Orac" <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote in message
news:Orac-1808B5.2...@nnrp04.earthlink.net...
Tut tut, Dr Gorski. You'd better go to confession p.d.q. There's something
in the Catholic faith about not lying, isn't there? And you know perfectly
well that the Nazis are not my heroes, don't you? So your immortal soul is
in immediate danger of being sent somewhere rather nasty, isn't it?
David
david_michael
"The Fourth Horseman" <t...@fourth.horseman> wrote in message
news:9hcu6.622$fy....@www.newsranger.com...
Nah, just another sheep.
David
david_michael
"Sara" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-0FF4F1...@news.concentric.net...
>
> > "Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
> > news:3AB91B5E...@nizkor.org...
> > >
> > > > "KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3ab8...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
them
> > > > > as
> > "good
> > > >
> > > > > reading", but if someone floods the NG with information they don't
> > want to
> > > > > hear it's called "SPAM"?
> > > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the
> > > > other
> > > > side to do it?
> > >
> > > Michael.
> > It
> > > was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's
> > addresses
> > > and other personal information to the newsgroup.
> > >
> >
> > A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to whom
> > people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
> > dishonesty on the part of Ms Salzman.
> >
> > this?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Dishonesty? When did I ever _deny_ that my father was the doctor in
> question?
You didn't. You simply left out that rather significant point.
> There was no dishonesty.
You acted dishonestly in failing to disclose that the psychiatrist to whom
you showed Mr Bradbury's posts was not an impartial figure but rather was
related to you by blood.
>Only your eye-popping hypocrisy and
> search for an excuse to harass an innocent man.
I have no wish to harass either the innocent or the guilty.
> Sara
>
> --
> "It's always nice to see a prejudice overruled by a deeper prejudice."
> John Sayles, _Lone Star_
David
david_michael
> david_michael wrote:
>
> > > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the
other
> > > > side to do it?
> > >
> > > Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr.
Michael. It
> >
> > > was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's
> > > addresses and other personal information to the newsgroup.
> >
> > people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
> > revisionists could complain.
>
party
> connected to Mr. Morris on the grounds (false, by the way) that he did it
first.
How did anything that I did endanger an innocent third party? Dr Reimer is
someone to whom people can complain about Mr Morris, not someone who anyone
would wish to harm. His details were already splattered all over the
Internet. They're still there.
> > So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
> > this?
>
> Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael?
OK, so you won't tell us why you are being dishonest about this. Fine.
> Don't you remember your own words on
> the matter?:
>
> > My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to stifle
> revisionism on the
> > Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult and
costly
> task for you.
Your point?
> Steven Mock
> --
> "I may not agree with your bumper sticker;
> but I'll defend your right to stick it." - Ed Anger
>
David
Orac
> "Orac" <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Orac-1808B5.2...@nnrp04.earthlink.net...
> > Hmmm. I seem to recall that your heroes the Nazis weren't too fond of
> > free speech, either.
> >
> Tut tut, Dr Gorski. You'd better go to confession p.d.q. There's something
> in the Catholic faith about not lying, isn't there? And you know perfectly
> well that the Nazis are not my heroes, don't you?
Actually, I don't.
>So your immortal soul is
> in immediate danger of being sent somewhere rather nasty, isn't it?
Not really, as I wasn't lying. If there's anyone here who should have worries
about where his soul is going, it would be you and many of your ideological
comrades.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"
david_michael
> In article <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>,
> "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Orac" <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Orac-1808B5.2...@nnrp04.earthlink.net...
>
> > > Hmmm. I seem to recall that your heroes the Nazis weren't too fond of
> > > free speech, either.
> > >
> > Tut tut, Dr Gorski. You'd better go to confession p.d.q. There's
something
> > in the Catholic faith about not lying, isn't there? And you know
perfectly
> > well that the Nazis are not my heroes, don't you?
>
> Actually, I don't.
Another lie from the 'good Catholic' Dr Oxygen Radical Absorbence Capacity.
You have seen my criticisms of the Nazis. You have seen me describe Hitler
as a 'twit'. You have seen me espouse ideals that are radically different
from the 'Germany over everything' and biological anti-Semitism of Hitler.
And yet you have allowed yourself to become so tainted by your unfortunate
association with McVay, Edeiken and similar pondlife that even you have now
abandoned your religion, done a Judas, and sold out to those who can only
advance their cause by smearing and lying.
> >So your immortal soul is
> > in immediate danger of being sent somewhere rather nasty, isn't it?
>
> Not really, as I wasn't lying.
Sure you were. You stated that the Nazis are my heroes. I have shown above
that you knew that this statement was false. Nevertheless you went right
ahead and made it in a public forum. So much for the Christian Faith!
> If there's anyone here who should have worries
> about where his soul is going, it would be you and many of your
ideological
> comrades.
Not so. If there were a perfectly good and all-powerful God, you would not
exist. You exist. Ergo, no God.
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
> |
> |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"
David
KCOM
She will be very upset about you turning her down, but I shoud
have known, I heard that you were a butcher that liked to take his meat in the
rear, especially Bradbury's meat.
Steve
Yosarian
>In article <s9hibtkha0hfu1edb...@4ax.com>,
>DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
>> substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
>> Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
>> it
>> and I know I am making a safe bet!
>>
>> <end>
>
>This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
>in Court that you are indigent.
>
>Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
Mr. Bradbury should save that thousand dollars as he may need that
money judgement day.
Steven Mock
> "Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
> news:3AB92562...@nizkor.org...
> > david_michael wrote:
> >
> > > > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the
> > > > > other side to do it?
> > > >
> > > > Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr.
> Michael. It
> > >
> > > > was, after all, the crux of your justification for posting people's
> > > > addresses and other personal information to the newsgroup.
> > >
> > > A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to whom
> > > people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of 'outing'
> > > revisionists could complain.
> >
> > Right. You claim justification for your endangering of an innocent third
> party
> > connected to Mr. Morris on the grounds (false, by the way) that he did it
> first.
>
> How did anything that I did endanger an innocent third party?
You're amazing, Dr. Michael. All Mr. Morris did was post your name, and he put
you in mortal danger. You posted his supervisors name, address and phone
number, and there was no threat involved.
Did you spend any time on the wording of that sentence to try and make it sound
even remotely less stupid?
> Dr Reimer is
> someone to whom people can complain about Mr Morris, not someone who anyone
> would wish to harm. His details were already splattered all over the
> Internet. They're still there.
>
> > > So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest about
> > > this?
> >
> > Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael?
>
> OK, so you won't tell us why you are being dishonest about this. Fine.
Its a stupid question. I was not being dishonest. You were.
> > Don't you remember your own words on
> > the matter?:
> >
> > > My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to stifle
> > revisionism on the
> > > Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult and costly
>
> > task for you.
>
> Your point?
That you claimed the right to engage in such behaviour on the sole grounds of
your false allegation that we did so first.
I found another little gem in my archives, from just after you first posted Mr.
Morris' supervisors' address:
> Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire.
So why are YOU being dishonest, Dr. Michael?
Yosarian
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>I have no wish to harass either the innocent or the guilty.
>
then why were you asking where people lived?? Then seeing the results
later on the Nizkor Phone book that resided on Yoderanium??
KCOM
No God? No wonder Wavvy is so fucked in the head. This explains all his
stupidity.
Steve
david_michael
"Yosarian" <yosa...@deja.com> wrote in message
news:ql1kbt09r8b6v2kot...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:40:41 -0000, "david_michael"
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >I have no wish to harass either the innocent or the guilty.
> >
>
>
> then why were you asking where people lived??
Where?
> Then seeing the results
> later on the Nizkor Phone book that resided on Yoderanium??
It was here for all to see. Your point?
David
david_michael
"KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.edu> wrote in message
news:3aba0ba4$1...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
Could you please reduce the incoherence factor in your posts. Thank you.
David
david_michael
Name and the town where he thought I lived. Had I not been ex-directory it
would have been a simple matter for Nazihunter or similar characters to have
consulted a telephone book and to have found out precisely where I lived.
That would have endangered not only myself but several other people.
Nor was I his only victim.
> You posted his supervisors name, address and phone
> number, and there was no threat involved.
Of course there was no threat involved. Reimer has not participated in this
forum at all, so why the heck should anyone want to threaten him?
> Did you spend any time on the wording of that sentence to try and make it
sound
> even remotely less stupid?
You really are a silly little man.
> > Dr Reimer is
> > someone to whom people can complain about Mr Morris, not someone who
anyone
> > would wish to harm. His details were already splattered all over the
> > Internet. They're still there.
> >
> > > > So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest
about
> > > > this?
> > >
> > > Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael?
> >
> > OK, so you won't tell us why you are being dishonest about this. Fine.
>
> Its a stupid question.
So what's the answer?
> I was not being dishonest. You were.
Sure you were. You misrepresented my justification.
Why did you do that?
> > > Don't you remember your own words on
> > > the matter?:
> > >
> > > > My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to
stifle
> > > revisionism on the
> > > > Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult and
costly
> >
> > > task for you.
> >
> > Your point?
>
> That you claimed the right to engage in such behaviour on the sole grounds
of
> your false allegation that we did so first.
I claimed the right to make your attempt to stifle revisionism on the
Internet difficult and costly. Read what you type.
> I found another little gem in my archives, from just after you first
posted Mr.
> Morris' supervisors' address:
>
> > Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire.
Your point?
> So why are YOU being dishonest, Dr. Michael?
Please post evidence to support that allegation.
Can't?
What a surprise!
> Steven Mock
> --
> "I may not agree with your bumper sticker;
> but I'll defend your right to stick it." - Ed Anger
>
David
warren's all-stars
"david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
news:3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk...
Ah, I see hypocrisy still flourishes in the michael household. First of
all, Mr. Morris does not 'allow' me to do anything. Second, I identified
nobody, despite being urged by you to do so. If anybody lobs a petrol bomb
through your window, it is because you were stupid enough to post enough
information that would allow anyone to find out your address, after I had
refused your entreaties to do so a number of times.
Steve
Steven Mock
> "Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
> news:3ABA0A3D...@nizkor.org...
> > david_michael wrote:
> >
> > > > Right. You claim justification for your endangering of an innocent
> third party
> > > > connected to Mr. Morris on the grounds (false, by the way) that he did
> > > > it first.
> > >
> > > How did anything that I did endanger an innocent third party?
> >
> > You're amazing, Dr. Michael. All Mr. Morris did was post your name, and
> > he put you in mortal danger.
>
> Name and the town where he thought I lived. Had I not been ex-directory it
> would have been a simple matter for Nazihunter or similar characters to have
> consulted a telephone book and to have found out precisely where I lived.
I see. So if the information was publically accessible, as was that of John
Morris' supervisor, then it would have been entirely justified for him to post
in on a forum that would invite harrassment, as you did.
> > You posted his supervisors name, address and phone
> > number, and there was no threat involved.
>
> Of course there was no threat involved. Reimer has not participated in this
> forum at all, so why the heck should anyone want to threaten him?
If you haven't noticed, neo-Nazis can be irrational on occasion, and you posted
the information to a forum frequented by such people. And you did, after all,
encourage that this individual be harassed at his home number.
> > > Dr Reimer is
> > > someone to whom people can complain about Mr Morris, not someone who
> anyone
> > > would wish to harm. His details were already splattered all over the
> > > Internet. They're still there.
> > >
> > > > > So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being dishonest
> > > > > about this?
> > > >
> > > > Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael?
> > >
> > > OK, so you won't tell us why you are being dishonest about this. Fine.
> >
> > Its a stupid question.
>
> So what's the answer?
Its a stupid question. I was not being dishonest. You were.
> > I was not being dishonest. You were.
>
> Sure you were. You misrepresented my justification.
>
> Why did you do that?
I did not. I reposted your own words proving that I represented your
justification quite appropriately. The fact that you would now like to
backpedal from your offensive behaviour through lame rationalizations says more
about your character than mine.
> > > > Don't you remember your own words on
> > > > the matter?:
> > > >
> > > > > My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to
> > > > > stifle revisionism on the
> > > > > Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult and
> > > > > costly task for you.
> > >
> > > Your point?
> >
> > That you claimed the right to engage in such behaviour on the sole grounds
> > of your false allegation that we did so first.
>
> I claimed the right to make your attempt to stifle revisionism on the
> Internet difficult and costly. Read what you type.
Very good, Dr. Michael. So lets say that I were to claim that your personal
information was posted (to the limited extent that it was) because you attempt
to stifle anti-revisionism on the Internat and we wanted to make it difficult
and costly for you. Does it become okay then, just because I've weasel worded
it in such a way? You're despicable.
> > I found another little gem in my archives, from just after you first
> > posted Mr. Morris' supervisors' address:
> >
> > > Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire.
>
> Your point?
Oh come on, Dr. Michael. That is as blunt a confirmation of your "they did it
first" rationalization as could be imagined. You posted the line, do you not
even know what the metaphor means?
Let me spell it out for you.
You're claiming that your opponants were using "fire"
Because they were using "fire" you claim the right to fight them using the same
"fire".
Remember the original statement you made that started this discussion: "So
you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other side to do
it?"
Your rationalization precisely.
> > So why are YOU being dishonest, Dr. Michael?
>
> Please post evidence to support that allegation.
"Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire."
Splat, Dr. Michael?
KCOM
You are the one who's incoherent.
Steve
John Morris
Hash: SHA1
In <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Thu, 22
Mar 2001 11:28:08 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> "John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
> news:sn2jbts4285rbr420...@4ax.com...
> > In <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Wed,
> > > > david_michael wrote:
> > [snip]
Funny how no such campaign exists.
> As a result of you using my correct name when I wished to
> post under a nym, you made it possible for them to identify where I
> lived with very little effort.
If you are so concerned, try posing under an nym and don't post your
real userid.
> Worse still, you allowed idiots like Steve Wolk to
> go around identifying other people who share my name as me!
And I'm responsible for his actions how exactly?
> There are
> numerous organizations in Britain that promote violence against
> people like me.
Then you should take steps to protect yourself instead of whining
year after year because I happened to notice your stupid carelessness
three years ago.
> A petrol bomb lobbed through my window could have finished off
> numerous individuals (both human and rodent) -- not just me.
You could be hit by a bus, too. While carrying your rodents about
with you.
> Once you'd let the cat
> out of the bag, there was no point in posting under anything other
> than my real name.
You could have picked a new nym if you were really concerned. But
you weren't really concerned.
> I note how you have not condemned Edeiken for his campaign to 'out'
> revisionists by abusing the legal system.
What campaign? Sounds like another of your persecution delusions.
> I note how you have repeatedly purported to know who Nazihunter is
> and yet have failed to post his name or one shred of evidence that
> you do in fact know this.
Oh good. Red herrings.
Let's not forget that *you* erroneously identified Grant Frame as
Nazihunter. So what exactly are you whining about others doing?
BTW, Laurence Shiff used to post as Marduk. I proved that already.
If you think Marduk is Nazihunter, then Shiff is your Nazihunter. I
think it is pretty suggestive that you got e-mail identifying Shiff
as someone who hire a private investigator trying to locate you, and
it strengthens the circumstantial connections bewteen Marduk and
Nazihunter.
I think really that your just pissed off that I was right and you
were wrong. But you should be used to that by now.
> And yet you still have the hypocrisy to grumble when I post the
> address of someone to whom your victims can complain!
What victims? My only "victim" is you. And you waited two years
before providing the home telephone number of someone who has no
control over my posting activities.
In the meantime, you changed your story about why you posted my
dissertation supervisor's home telephone number until you hit upon
providing "someone to whom [my nonexistent] victims can complain."
> What a hypocrite.
And you are a whiny little suck who tells lies because he lacks the
maturity to cope as an emotional adult.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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>
> In article <s9hibtkha0hfu1edb...@4ax.com>,
> DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
> > substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
> > Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of
> > it
> > and I know I am making a safe bet!
> >
> > <end>
>
> This is a fascinating statement, Mr. Bradbury, since your attorney swore
> in Court that you are indigent.
>
> Where will you get this $1000.00 for your "challenge"?
Maybe he's only indigent when he's talking to his lawyer.
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five d's, thirty-two e's, ten f's, five g's, nine h's, seventeen
i's, six l's, nineteen n's, ten o's, two p's, ten r's, thirty-three
s's, twenty-four t's, five u's, eight v's, seven w's, two x's,
four y's, all sorts of punctuation, and ends with these: @%<
Sara
DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Sara
Really? But you claim that "outing" you was potentially violent. Why is
it then that "outing" my father is NOT as much of a threat to him as
your real name was to you?
david_michael
Revisionists are subjected to a brutal campaign of repression that includes,
inter alia, firebombings, assaults, campaigns to lose them their jobs, and
malicious legal activities. Can you name me one anti-revisionist who has had
a petrol bomb through his window? One who has been beaten up? One who has
lost his job for speaking out? One who has been on the receiving end of a
malicious court prosecution? No? Then here you have one important difference
between your father's situation and that of myself and the other people who
have been 'outed' by the Morris/Nazihunter/Edeiken group: our people don't
go around doing that sort of thing.
Want another difference? I wasn't defaming anyone. *You*, with your paranoid
hatred of Mr Bradbury, were making false claims about his psychological
health and withholding key information that threw a very clear light on the
degree of seriousness with which those claims could be taken. I provided
important evidence that proved you had not consulted an impartial source but
rather someone with every motive for siding with you against Bradbury: your
own father. What was the alternative? To remain silent and allow Mr
Bradbury's good name to suffer as a result of your allegations about his
mental health? No way. I exposed your crass dishonesty in the matter. And
that is why I did what I did. Now why did John Morris decide to put me and
my family at risk? I'll tell you. Anti-revisionist posters had been crowing
with pleasure because some elderly chap had been dragged before the courts
for alleged World War Two war crimes. I had pointed out that, based upon his
own postings to this newsgroup, Chuck Ferree was a war criminal.
Specifically, for example, he boasted that he had 'bombed civilians and
strafed them too', that he had bombed German cities 'more than necessary'
and that he had murdered a man on a bicycle. I observed that the
anti-revisionists were not exactly falling over themselves to have THAT
particular war criminal dragged before the courts -- quite the opposite.
John Morris was so desperate to shut me up that he posted enough information
about me to enable anyone who wished to do so to go and perpetrate violence
against me. My motives were to expose the truth about your dishonesty.
Morris's motive was to prevent the truth from being revealed.
David
KCOM
ROTFLMFAO Sara. You really got old Wavvy goosed. Now let's fry his baby
Geinea pigs
Steve
david_michael
I certainly think that public accessibility is an important factor. If you
go around splattering your own address all over the Internet you can hardly
complain when it pops up on a different part of the Internet. If, on the
other hand, you make it quite plain that you do not wish your own address to
appear on the Internet and take steps to try to prevent it from doing so,
then it is quite a different matter when you find that someone is trying to
shut you up by posting your personal details on the Internet.
> > > You posted his supervisors name, address and phone
> > > number, and there was no threat involved.
> >
> > Of course there was no threat involved. Reimer has not participated in
this
> > forum at all, so why the heck should anyone want to threaten him?
>
> If you haven't noticed, neo-Nazis can be irrational on occasion, and you
posted
> the information to a forum frequented by such people. And you did, after
all,
> encourage that this individual be harassed at his home number.
Absolutely false. I made it clear that he was someone to whom people could
complain about Morris's 'outing' activities. And if a neo-Nazi was
sufficiently irrational that he wanted to harass Morris's supervisor, then
he could have got the information on his own as Dr Reimer had placed it all
over the Internet.
> > > > Dr Reimer is
> > > > someone to whom people can complain about Mr Morris, not someone who
> > anyone
> > > > would wish to harm. His details were already splattered all over the
> > > > Internet. They're still there.
> > > >
> > > > > > So perhaps you will tell us, Mr Mock, why you are being
dishonest
> > > > > > about this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why are you playing stupid, Dr. Michael?
> > > >
> > > > OK, so you won't tell us why you are being dishonest about this.
Fine.
> > >
> > > Its a stupid question.
> >
> > So what's the answer?
>
> Its a stupid question.
You've already said that. So what's the answer?
> I was not being dishonest. You were.
> > > I was not being dishonest. You were.
> >
> > Sure you were. You misrepresented my justification.
> >
> > Why did you do that?
>
> I did not. I reposted your own words proving that I represented your
> justification quite appropriately.
No you didn't. Your claim was 'You claim justification for your endangering
of an innocent third party connected to Mr. Morris on the grounds (false, by
the way) that he did it first.' That is not my justification for doing
anything. I posted contact information for Dr Reimer so that people who are
endangered by Mr Morris's conduct, which appeared to involve abuse of
University of Alberta computing facilities, could complain about Mr Morris's
behaviour to Dr Reimer, his supervisor at the University of Alberta.
> The fact that you would now like to
> backpedal from your offensive behaviour through lame rationalizations says
more
> about your character than mine.
Where's the backpedalling? You lied. I've shown that you lied. I'm sorry
that you're offended by being exposed in that way. Perhaps next time you'll
think twice before lying.
> > > > > Don't you remember your own words on
> > > > > the matter?:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My justification rests in the fact that you folks are trying to
> > > > > > stifle revisionism on the
> > > > > > Internet and some of us are determined to make that a difficult
and
> > > > > > costly task for you.
> > > >
> > > > Your point?
> > >
> > > That you claimed the right to engage in such behaviour on the sole
grounds
> > > of your false allegation that we did so first.
> >
> > I claimed the right to make your attempt to stifle revisionism on the
> > Internet difficult and costly. Read what you type.
>
> Very good, Dr. Michael. So lets say that I were to claim that your
personal
> information was posted (to the limited extent that it was) because you
attempt
> to stifle anti-revisionism on the Internat and we wanted to make it
difficult
> and costly for you. Does it become okay then, just because I've weasel
worded
> it in such a way? You're despicable.
If I were a student and I used university computing facilities to post
personal details of people who were vulnerable to violent attack in an
attempt to shut them up from exposing a particularly odious war criminal,
then you would be perfectly entitled to encourage people to complain to my
supervisor, yes.
> > > I found another little gem in my archives, from just after you first
> > > posted Mr. Morris' supervisors' address:
> > >
> > > > Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire.
> >
> > Your point?
>
> Oh come on, Dr. Michael. That is as blunt a confirmation of your "they
did it
> first" rationalization as could be imagined. You posted the line, do you
not
> even know what the metaphor means?
>
> Let me spell it out for you.
>
> You're claiming that your opponants were using "fire"
>
> Because they were using "fire" you claim the right to fight them using the
same
> "fire".
No, I claim the right to fight them using a different fire. Your people, the
anti-revisionists, use the fire of smears, lies, half-truths, distortions,
misrepresentations, intimidation, prosecution. On occasion they use the fire
of violence. My fire is the fire of truth -- the fire that exposes the lies,
that challenges the smears, that unravels the misrepresentations, that
stands up to the intimidation, that reacts to prosecution with counter
prosecution, that remains steadfast and unmoving in the face of the risk of
violence. Yours is the fire of cowards. Mine is the fire of revolutionary
nationalism.
> Remember the original statement you made that started this discussion: "So
> you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for the other side
to do
> it?"
>
> Your rationalization precisely.
>
> > > So why are YOU being dishonest, Dr. Michael?
> >
> > Please post evidence to support that allegation.
>
> "Yes. I think the time has come to fight fire with fire."
>
> Splat, Dr. Michael?
>
> > Can't?
> >
> > What a surprise!
>
> Steven Mock
> --
> "I may not agree with your bumper sticker;
> but I'll defend your right to stick it." - Ed Anger
>
David
Orac
> "Orac" <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Orac-4A528E.0...@news4.sucknews.com...
> > In article <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>,
> > "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > > Tut tut, Dr Gorski. You'd better go to confession p.d.q. There's
> > > something in the Catholic faith about not lying, isn't there? And you
> > > know perfectly well that the Nazis are not my heroes, don't you?
> >
> > Actually, I don't.
>
> Another lie from the 'good Catholic' Dr Oxygen Radical Absorbence Capacity.
> You have seen my criticisms of the Nazis. You have seen me describe Hitler
> as a 'twit'. You have seen me espouse ideals that are radically different
> from the 'Germany over everything' and biological anti-Semitism of Hitler.
What views have you espouse that are "radically different" from the "Germany
over everything" and biological anti-Semitism of the Nazis? I haven't seen them.
> And yet you have allowed yourself to become so tainted by your unfortunate
> association with McVay, Edeiken and similar pondlife that even you have now
> abandoned your religion, done a Judas, and sold out to those who can only
> advance their cause by smearing and lying.
Ah, yes, shall we repost your "beautiful dream" paeon to National Socialism
again? You know, the one in which you started out with "forget the stories about
corpses for a minute"? Oh, yes, you'll point out that you "criticized" Nazi-ism
in that post as well (criticisms that basically boiled down to a dislike of the
Fuhrer principle and the methods the Nazis used to achieve their ends rather
than any substantive criticism of the goals of the Nazis). The bottom line is,
you clearly sympathize with many of the goals of Nazi-ism and go out of your way
to defend them when it comes to discussions of their culpability in the
Holocaust and to do everything you can to criticize the Allies who fought the
Nazis.
If the Nazis weren't your heroes, you'll forgive me and others for getting the
impression that they were, given how much of an apologist for Nazi-ism you've
become!
> > >So your immortal soul is
> > > in immediate danger of being sent somewhere rather nasty, isn't it?
> >
> > Not really, as I wasn't lying.
>
> Sure you were. You stated that the Nazis are my heroes. I have shown above
> that you knew that this statement was false. Nevertheless you went right
> ahead and made it in a public forum. So much for the Christian Faith!
Man, oh, man, is it easy to get you to tilt. I hadn't even been trying to do
that.
> > If there's anyone here who should have worries
> > about where his soul is going, it would be you and many of your
> ideological
> > comrades.
>
> Not so. If there were a perfectly good and all-powerful God, you would not
> exist. You exist. Ergo, no God.
Huh? Your "logic," I see, is as incomprehensible as ever.
Orac
"david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> "KCOM" <kc...@MailAndNews.edu> wrote in message
> news:3aba0ba4$1...@spamkiller.newsfeeds.com...
> >
> > "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > >Not so. If there were a perfectly good and all-powerful God, you would not
> > >exist. You exist. Ergo, no God.
> > >
> >
> > No God? No wonder Wavvy is so fucked in the head. This explains all his
> > stupidity.
> > Steve
>
> Could you please reduce the incoherence factor in your posts. Thank you.
Funny, but after that statement of yours, I was about to ask you the same thing.
Thank you.
david_michael
> In article <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>,
> "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Orac" <Or...@wlsfanmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:Orac-4A528E.0...@news4.sucknews.com...
> > > In article <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk>,
> > > "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Tut tut, Dr Gorski. You'd better go to confession p.d.q. There's
> > > > something in the Catholic faith about not lying, isn't there? And
you
> > > > know perfectly well that the Nazis are not my heroes, don't you?
> > >
> > > Actually, I don't.
> >
> > Another lie from the 'good Catholic' Dr Oxygen Radical Absorbence
Capacity.
> > You have seen my criticisms of the Nazis. You have seen me describe
Hitler
> > as a 'twit'. You have seen me espouse ideals that are radically
different
> > from the 'Germany over everything' and biological anti-Semitism of
Hitler.
>
> What views have you espouse that are "radically different" from the
"Germany
> over everything" and biological anti-Semitism of the Nazis? I haven't seen
them.
Let me quote myself from a local newsletter:
<begin quote>
What is British nationalism all about? It has nothing to do with 'hating'
people of other races and nations simply because they are of other races and
nations. It certainly has nothing to do with wanting to dominate or oppress
other races and nations. British nationalism is not about 'fascism' or
'Nazism' or any other foreign ideology.
Not so long ago, and well within living memory of some of us, Britain was a
very different place from the place it is today. It was a land that was
proud of its history, its people and its role in the world. It was a warm
and friendly little place: the sort of country that you could think of as
'home'. An Englishman obliged to spend an extended period abroad would
remember our green fields, our red telephone boxes and post boxes, our
friendly village bobbies, our roast beef and Yorkshire pud, and he would
feel homesick and want to come back as quickly as possible. This was a land
where an Englishman could feel secure at work because, in the days before
globalization, a job performed competently really was a job for life. It was
a land where our doctors were British, where our hospitals had matrons who
ensured that everything was kept clean, and where it would not have been
necessary to wait for months in order to see a consultant about some
potentially fatal illness. It was a land where the BBC was not a vehicle for
internationalist propaganda, undermining our national morale with a steady
stream of foreign filth, sex, dirt, and alien newscasters, but, despite
early signs of the decay to come, was an institution of which we were proud,
broadcasting our voice throughout the world. Britain was a country that we
could love.
Contrast that Britain with the Britain of today. We are no longer an
international power but a mere province of a European superstate. Our green
fields have been replaced with grey suburbs, 40% of London is 'ethnic', and
the chippies of old are giving way to Indian takeaways everywhere. The
British bobby has been replaced with the politically correct career officer
and patriotic, politically active Englishmen fear the early morning knock on
the door. The BBC broadcasts an unrelenting stream of 'politically correct'
propaganda. Our hospitals are filthy and dangerous, our streets are unsafe,
and as this newsletter has show, our own unemployed and their kids are
treated as second-class citizens while hoardes of newly arrived asylum
seekers are given priority over them for housing and finance.
No, dear reader, British nationalism is not about turning the clock back. It
is far too late to do that and not all that happened in the past was good by
any means. British nationalism is about building a new land that we can
love. It is about building in these islands a homely little place that we
can regard as our own - a place where we can feel safe and secure, where our
police catch criminals and our courts punish them, where our doctors speak
English fluently, where our hospitals are clean and efficient, where our
jobs and homes are safe, where our broadcasters are pro-British rather than
anti-British, where our schools do not indoctrinate our children with
internationalist propaganda, where we can walk the streets at night without
being attacked. It is about firmly reasserting our independence against the
forces of globalization, liberalism and internationalism in all their forms
and remaining ever vigiliant against their pervasive influence. British
nationalism, dear reader, is about making Britain our home once more.
<end quote>
> > And yet you have allowed yourself to become so tainted by your
unfortunate
> > association with McVay, Edeiken and similar pondlife that even you have
now
> > abandoned your religion, done a Judas, and sold out to those who can
only
> > advance their cause by smearing and lying.
>
> Ah, yes, shall we repost your "beautiful dream" paeon to National
Socialism
> again?
Please do -- all I ask is that you repost it all in full, unsnipped,
unedited, just as it emerged from my computer.
> You know, the one in which you started out with "forget the stories about
> corpses for a minute"? Oh, yes, you'll point out that you "criticized"
Nazi-ism
> in that post as well (criticisms that basically boiled down to a dislike
of the
> Fuhrer principle and the methods the Nazis used to achieve their ends
rather
> than any substantive criticism of the goals of the Nazis). The bottom line
is,
> you clearly sympathize with many of the goals of Nazi-ism
I sympathize with some and not others. But then I could say that about most
'isms'.
> and go out of your way
> to defend them when it comes to discussions of their culpability in the
> Holocaust and to do everything you can to criticize the Allies who fought
the
> Nazis.
No, I argue for the general proposition that the Nazis might have been bad
but the Allies were certainly no better.
> If the Nazis weren't your heroes, you'll forgive me and others for getting
the
> impression that they were, given how much of an apologist for Nazi-ism
you've
> become!
You know perfectly well that they are not my heroes.
> > > >So your immortal soul is
> > > > in immediate danger of being sent somewhere rather nasty, isn't it?
> > >
> > > Not really, as I wasn't lying.
> >
> > Sure you were. You stated that the Nazis are my heroes. I have shown
above
> > that you knew that this statement was false. Nevertheless you went right
> > ahead and made it in a public forum. So much for the Christian Faith!
>
> Man, oh, man, is it easy to get you to tilt. I hadn't even been trying to
do
> that.
Means?
>
> > > If there's anyone here who should have worries
> > > about where his soul is going, it would be you and many of your
> > ideological
> > > comrades.
> >
> > Not so. If there were a perfectly good and all-powerful God, you would
not
> > exist. You exist. Ergo, no God.
>
> Huh? Your "logic," I see, is as incomprehensible as ever.
Rubbish man. It's a perfectly straightforward modus ponendo ponens. Get an
education.
> --
> Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
> |
> |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?"
David
KCOM
Orac needs an Education? There you go again Wavvy doing the double standards
dance. Oh I forgot, if it wasn't for double standards you'd have no standards
at all.
Steve
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
weasel out of this current group of lies she's been exposed propagating.
Is not one of the vital characteristics of a pathological liar being
"unable to accept that they've lied when proven so with overwhelming
evidence and they are hostile toward those who attempt to make them
confront their delusions concerning the truth (and reality)? Look at the
claims made by both Yale F. Edeiken and Sara "Crackpot" Salzman and see
how I dismiss their delusions. Sara I am dying to see how you spin this
post!
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
-- 1
Looks like you're projecting your delusional mental state you perjurer and
proven pathological liar!
>Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
>statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
What is this perjurer? From what source did Yale F. Edeiken say he got
the "discharge diagnosis" and my weight? (Notice Hermann Hospital in the
text you pathological liar and perjurer?)
Posts taken from this archive (as a compiled collection):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=917169260&ic=1
From: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
(DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: NIZKOOK ADDRESSES
Date: 2001-03-07 05:28:05 PST
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hermann=&rnum=5&seld=985854204&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: Re: Bradshit's lies again
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 03:42:52 GMT
Stephen R Gould <srg...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:F9Ay5.1821$tl2.1...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> <david...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8qdbe7$1or$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > 100% AIDS free here,
> >
> > I am delighted to be in excellent shape and can outperform you in any
> > athletic event or any exercise involving intelligence.
> >
> > You are physically and mentally ill and soon to be sleeping out of
> > cardboard boxes
> That's "box" singular - the other one's for Don Ellis.
Since he weighed in at his last visit to Hermann Hospital at well over
300 lbs., the plural is more likely.
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Sara, in regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what did
he base his statement on): "Since he weighed in at his last visit to
Hermann Hospital at well over 300 lbs."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Post number two:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hermann=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com> wrote in message
news:kr8osscef1a47ihc0...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
>
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001: For a fact I have never "admitted"
Yale F. Edeiken's "allegations" were accurate. Until Sara Salzman and Ken
McVay posted the documents titled: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT AND
ADMISSIONS ARE DEEMED ADMITTED" I had no idea of what the allegations
were!!! Yale F. Edeiken never sent me his "allegations!" In fact when the
attorney I had hired asked for a copy of the "complaints" he was told via
e-mail: "FUCK YOU!">>
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
In regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show me how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what
did he base his statement on): "According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Who did Yale use as a source of his statements? "Hermann Hostital"
What did "Hermann Hostital" allegedly tell me according to
Yale F. Edeiken? "You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight....
Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your
pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
How many lies have I caught you in you mentally deluded pig? A BUNCH!!
Here is the clincher which slam dunks your umpteenth lie that you stated
as quoted: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.... You're not only a complete
idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale never said he posted your medical
records. YOU did. Yale made some general statements, and YOU claimed he
had posted your records."
In his very own words archived at GOOGLE.COM:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hermann=&rnum=2&seld=985262590&ic=1
From: Yale F. Edeiken (ya...@enter.net)
Subject: Re: Who's the piggy here, Boogerman?
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-09-23 11:36:07 PST
> >Cooter <Coot...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:8qikr...@news1.newsguy.com...
> >> In article <YQSy5.1270$mC.6...@monger.newsread.com>, ya...@enter.net
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:catamont-71FE82...@news.concentric.net...
> >> >> In article <MPG.143547621...@news.ne.mediaone.net>, Allan
> >> >> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <s3nmsssfdsv6brdd8...@4ax.com>, Scott
> >> >> >"Blimpy" Bradbury, cowering ineffectively behind
> >> >> >doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com, spewed:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >[Boogerman's silly whining snipped]
> >> >> >> Yale F. Edeiken now makes known a detail of my medical records:
> >> >> >> >> Since he weighed in at his last visit to Hermann Hospital at
> >> >> >> >> well over 300 lbs., the plural is more likely.
> >> >> >> >LOOKS LIKE YOU POSTED SUBPOENAED INFORMATION. MEDICAL RECORDS
> >> >> >> >ARE CONFIDENTIAL TOO.
> >> >> >If the information was subpoenaed then it becomes a public court
> >> >> >document. In other words, it's a matter of public record now that
> >> >> >you're a big-time lard butt, Snottie.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Also, as you have been told many times, Blimpy, the truth cannot be
> >> >> >defamatory, as it's THE TRUTH!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Guess we now know why you're so good at hog calls, Boogerman.
> >> >> >They're aimed at you freqently by mistake.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >ROTFL!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Stay lame Blimpy. You're great entertainment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And remember kids - don't be like "Sieg Heil" Scottie - STAY IN
> >> >> >SCHOOL!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >[Snottie's abusive cross-posting trimmed]
Sara Salzman wrote:
> >> >> 300 pounds?!? This is the person who likes to call other people
> >> >> "Tubby" and "Fat Sow"?
> >> >>
> >> >> Glass houses, Mr. Bradbury. And you sure seem to like handing out
> >> >> stones.
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> >> > Well over 300 pounds. He hasn't seen 3000 pounds since Kathy Lee
> >> >Gifford saw 40.
<<Where did Yale get the idea that I weighed "Well over 300 pounds"?
The medical record he subpoenaed had no height nor weight fields on it!
How could Yale make "some general statements" on a medical record that has
no such info? HE LIED! As for your lie: "Yale never said he posted your
medical records. YOU did." Care to show that I EVER said concerning the
Hermann Hospital medical record: I weigh over 300 pounds or I have been
diagnosed as having "MORBID OBESITY or that I have been told to "Ecercise
and lose weight"? I NEVER MADE THOSE CLAIMS- Yale F. Edeiken did and all
based his subpoenaing my medical records! Once again you're showed to be a
lying pig Sara. This post alone makes a testament to your mental state!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> >> One wonders how a federal judge will view your posting medical records
> >> you've obtained using subpoena in order to expose to public humiliation
> >> a person you are litigating. Your motive is most apparent in this post.
> >>
> >> --CooterBob--
Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> > Absolutely nothing. First, Bradshit did not make any request to seal
> >the document
<<Pretty well slam dunks your self delusion of: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS... You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale
never said he posted your medical records." Looks like Yale countered what
you now claim Sara! Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> > and second because he invited the public to look at it:
<<I positively did NOT invite the public to look at it. I said precisely
and it is still in this archived document as Yale showed below: "You think
I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this..." Who was I replying to? Yale F. Edeiken! My statement: "If you
wish to verify.." Was addressed to whom? The person I was replying to-
Yale F. Edeiken. No where did I "invite the public to look at it." Once
again Yale lied back then and Sara lies now!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> Hardly looks like Bradbury invited the public to have it. >
<Yale F. Edeiken finally replies>:
Then read it again. It was not addressed to me but to the puublic:
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
> >about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
> >before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
> >wish to verify this then contact:
> >Hermann Hospital
> >Medical Records
> >P.O. Box 200758
> >Houston, Texas 77216-0758
> >
> >The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
> >"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
> >Date you can return to work: HOLD
> >Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
> >Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
> >(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
> >work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
> >The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
> >50 04882 6 9356
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Here is a real clincher on Yale subpoenaing my medical records and then
posting alleged details from the record I said precisely: "If you
wish to verify... The release document .. dated 12/22/99 and its number
is: 50 04882 6 9356":
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=public=&rnum=1&seld=985134012&ic=1
From: Doc Tavish (doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com)
Subject: Re: Still pushing around women Edeiken? I wonder if this is
normal for Pennsylvania attorneys <2> - YFE Telephone Threat .ra (0/1)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism, misc.legal, alt.lawyers, alt.attorneys,
alt.shyster.2b.disbared
Date: 2000-09-24 00:32:30 PST
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:14:06 -0400, <patbl...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>*** post for free via your newsreader at post.newsfeeds.com ***
>
>Illiterate lawyer Edeiken strikes again with over one dozen misspellings.
>
>Yale F. Edeiken was also found guilty of physically assaulting a woman.
>
>http://www.clr.org/pa.html
>
>
>Illiterate Yale F. Edeiken <ya...@enter.net> wrote in message
>news:kYez5.848$np1.1...@newshog.newsread.com...
>> And you should not have returned noth the notice that I would issue
>the suvpiena and the subpiena to me with insults scrawled on them.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=suvpiena+subpiena=&rnum=1&seld=985159569&ic=1
>3 misspellings in one sentence.
>> Such an application would have been useless in any case. Your public
>> announcement of part of the contents wioyld have made such a court ruling
>> impossible.
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>> You most certainly did. You printed part of iot an invited the world
>>to verfiy its contents.
>6 words misspelled.
I did not invite the world to see my private medical records. Offered only
to let YOU confirm what I posted was true..
[...]
>> As soon as y7ou prointed part of it, your invitation was to the world.
>8 misspellings
>> > Your obvious lack of remorse shows painfully too!
>> I have nothing to be remorseful about.
Thanks for admitting it. I'm sure a federal judge will be interested to
know too!
>Actually when you are burning in hell and crying out that you should of
>listened to DocTavish, you will try to be very remorseful.
>> WRONG You released them for the specific puirpose of making a false
>> charge against me.
>9 misspelled words
>> Then you should not have piublished part of it, make fraudulent claims
>> about it, and invite others to look at it.
>up to 10 misspellings.
No where did I invite others to look at my medical records! The exact
words I said as archived with DejaCom and shown above in full context
are: " If you wish to verify this then contact..." The word "you" is
exclusive to one person only YOU, you lying unethical bastard!
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Well did Yale or did he not subpoena a medical record on me? Did Yale or
did he not post alleged details from it?
As for Yale's statement: "Then you should not have piublished part of it,
make fraudulent claims about it, and invite others to look at it."
I answer multi-part with:
1) "Then you should not have piublished part of it.."
What I published was no big deal and I will "piublish" it again:
<start>
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<stop>
Big deal- no controversy! Yet what you posted the medical document said
was all lies! Once again the document did NOT have height nor weight
fields on it NOR did it say in the "discharge diagnosis" what you claimed:
"According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You have been tppld to exercise
and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." IN OTHER WORDS- YOU'RE
A LIAR!!!
2) "make fraudulent claims about it"
I was not the one to make fraudulent claims about it- you were the one
making fraudulent claims about it you posted "details" which were NOT on
it! The date is March 22, 2001 and I will make sure the appropriate people
get a copy of the document and this very post and let then see who the
liar is!
3) "invite others to look at it"
No where did I "invite others to look at it" and for a fact it was only
YOU I gave exclusive permission to verify it. I addressed my: "You think I
made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this then contact: Hermann Hospital Medical Records" to you Yale F.
Edeiken and NOT to the public and as proof:
a) I had stated: "You think I made the above up to escape your deposition"
My use of the word "You" was addressed to whom? Not the public for sure!
Why? The public was not "requesting" I attend a deposition and that is why
I also said in the same statement: "escape your deposition."
b) I had stated: "eight whole days before I had an official notice that
you had even filed a lawsuit"
To whom was the usage of "you" addressed to? The public? NO! Did the
public serve me with a notice that it had filed a lawsuit? The "you" still
applies to you and YOU alone!
c) I had stated: "If you wish to verify this then contact: Hermann
Hospital Medical Records"
Who was I addressing my remarks to? Yale F. Edeiken! NOT the public.
The public at large can't "verify" my medical records because they are not
available BUT an attorney can subpoena them and especially if he is an
immoral, shady character, and unscrupulous bastard he would post alleged
details from them which were fraudulent such as was done!!
Need I say more about the criminal invasion of privacy?
Here is what Yale F. Edeiken's own State of Pennsylvania says concerning
medical records:
Pennsylvania Code ... and cannot be released without an order ...
authorizing such a court order. ... notice of certain
medical records had no impact ... 55 Pa. Code 3800.20 (relating ...
http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/055/chapter5100/s5100.35.html
5100.35. Release to courts.
(a) Each facility director shall designate one or more persons as a
records officer, who shall maintain the confidentiality of client/patient
records in accordance with this chapter.
(b) Records shall comply with the following:
(1) Whenever a client/patient's records are subpoenaed or otherwise
made subject to discovery proceedings in a court proceeding, other than
proceedings authorized by the act, and the patient/client has not
consented or does not consent to release of the records, no records should
be released in the absence of an additional order of court...
(3) If it is known that a patient has a current attorney of record for
the given proceedings, that attorney shall be informed of the request of
subpoena, if not already served with a copy, and shall be expected to
represent and protect the client/patient s interests in the
confidentiality of the records....
The Department cites: 42 U.S.C. 290-dd-32; 71 P.S. 1690.1083; 50 P.S.
71114; 28 Pa. Code 211.5(c)5; 43 Pa. Code 1.2(a) and (b)6. These statutes
and regulations, according to the Department, generally provide that
absent an emergency or a court order, MEDICAL RECORDS CANNOT BE DISCLOSED
WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE PATIENT (emphasis added by Doc Tavish)
http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/797shay.html
Clinical laboratories must treat as confidential records and reports of
examinations. Similar requirements apply to nursing facilities, home
health agencies and ambulatory surgery centers.
In addition to the foregoing statutory and regulatory standards of
confidentiality, the courts in Pennsylvania have recognized an
individual s privacy interests in medical information. Unauthorized
disclosure of medical information may be actionable as an invasion of
privacy...
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
---
"If you stop fabricating lies about me, I will stop disclosing the
truth about you." Adapted from UKRAINE ORGANIZATION'S Terms of Truce
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Sara
DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
Thank you so much for proving my point.
Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Gord McFee
05:44:00 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote:
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> In <3ab9...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Wed, 21
> Mar 2001 21:35:59 -0000, "david_michael"
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
>
> > "Steven Mock" <sm...@nizkor.org> wrote in message
> > news:3AB91B5E...@nizkor.org...
>
> > > david_michael wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > > So you're saying that if one side does it that makes it OK for
> > > > the other side to do it?
>
> > > Funny you should have a problem with that line of reasoning, Dr.
> > > Michael. It was, after all, the crux of your justification for
> > > posting people's addresses and other personal information to the
> > > newsgroup.
>
> > A lie. Of the addresses I posted, one was the address of someone to
> > whom people whose lives had been endangered by Morris's habit of
> > 'outing' revisionists could complain.
>
> Lives endangered? My, my. This becomes more dramatic with each
> retelling.
>
> Funny how you felt your life endangered, but did nothing, for two
> full years after I happened to notice that you inadvertently posted
> under a valid userid. Funny how you felt endangered for all that
> time, but thereafter posted under your real name. Funny how after
> two full years of feeling your life was endangered the reason you
> gave for posting my supervisor's home telephone number was that I was
> being abusive and defamatory:
>
> Now I wonder what your academic supervisor . . . would say if
> he knew that you were using university facilities to post
> material that was (a) abusive and (b) defamatory, Mr Morris?
>
> Funny how you have plural lives that feel endangered. Funny how you
> never complained yourself (or selves).
>
> > The other was posted in order to expose
> > dishonesty on the part of Ms Salzman.
>
> So you felt it was dishonest when it was revealed that Sara's eminent
> psychiatrist father was the eminent psychiatrist whose opinion she
> offered.
>
> Funny how you could never explain how that was dishonest. Funny how
> you could never explain how posting his telephone exposed the
> dishonesty.
>
> Funny how you never seem to remember that you also posted contact
> information for Gord McFee's boss and threatened to start a campaign
> to have him fired.
And then announced a campaign to get me fired.
He's like plankton shit, John, not even worth the effort.
--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Special note: Sara "Crackpot" Salzman made on a brief reply to my catalog
of her lies and delusions. Her reply to my documented proofs was at the
bottom of this post. I now "copy 'n' paste" her reply to my documented
irrefutable proofs just below and I will make current comment on them.
sara makes my case very solid in demonstrating she is a pathological liar
who is completely devoid of telling the truth and when she is shown to be
lying she goes into denial.
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth.
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if i have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
It os going to be areal pleasure to see you go down in flames. You made
thirteen perjured "statements of fact" in your affidavit and how you
handle truth in this post alone just well may be used against you too!
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stop+bothering=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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Sara's previous distraction from reality:
>> You already have.
>> >Up to 4 misspellings.
>> >6 words misspelled.
>> >9 misspelled words
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
John Morris
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In <3aba...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Thu, 22
Mar 2001 21:03:07 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
[snip]
Sara Salzman asked:
> > Really? But you claim that "outing" you was potentially violent.
> > Why is it then that "outing" my father is NOT as much of a threat
> > to him as your real name was to you?
> Revisionists are subjected to a brutal campaign of repression that
> includes, inter alia, firebombings,
Oh yeah. That reminds me. Do you have any evidence in support of
your smear that I firebombed someone?
> assaults, campaigns to lose them their jobs, and
> malicious legal activities. Can you name me one anti-revisionist
> who has had a petrol bomb through his window?
Funny how you couldn't name a single Revisionist who had any of the
problems named. You just expect that we'll assume it's true.
> One who has been beaten up?
How about shot to death by "Revisionist" Benjamin Smith?
> One who has
> lost his job for speaking out?
Yep. Sheldon Epstein. Epstein was a sessional lecturer at
Northwestern University who lost his job because he introduced a unit
on the engineering of gas chambers into his first-year engineering
classes. Seems Epstein was upset about the Revisionist claims of his
colleague Arthur Butz and wanted to rebut them.
Butz, meanwhile, still uses the facilities of Northwestern University
to wage his campaign of smears and defamation against Jews, and he
still has his job and his pension.
> One who has been on the receiving end of a
> malicious court prosecution? No?
Yes. I can name three, in fact:
Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin Books;
Gitty Sereny and The Observer;
John Lukacs, if he publishes his book on Hitler in the UK.
> Then here you have one important difference
> between your father's situation and that of myself and the other
> people who have been 'outed' by the Morris/Nazihunter/Edeiken
> group: our people don't go around doing that sort of thing.
Except you do it. You post addresses and telephone numbers.
And "your people" publish the so-called Nizkor Phonebook and the
so-called Dead Pool.
> Want another difference? I wasn't defaming anyone.
Hee. When do you *not* defame people?
> *You*, with your paranoid
> hatred of Mr Bradbury, were making false claims about his
> psychological health and withholding key information that threw a
> very clear light on the degree of seriousness with which those
> claims could be taken. I provided important evidence that proved
> you had not consulted an impartial source but rather someone with
> every motive for siding with you against Bradbury: your own father.
And posting his address and telephone number proved that he was
Sara's father how exactly?
> What was the alternative?
To point out that Sara's source was her father.
> To remain silent and allow Mr
> Bradbury's good name
His what!?!?
BWAAAHAHAHAHA!
> to suffer as a result of your allegations about his
> mental health? No way. I exposed your crass dishonesty in the
> matter.
Except tat she wasn't dishonest. She said she consulted an eminent
psychiatrist. Her father is an eminent psychiatrist.
Just because all you have is the unproven and _ad hominem_ argument
of self-interest doesn't prove dishonesty.
But it does prove that your years St. Andrews were a complete waste
of time.
And
> that is why I did what I did. Now why did John Morris decide to put
> me and my family at risk?
I didn't.
> I'll tell you. Anti-revisionist posters had been crowing
> with pleasure because some elderly chap had been dragged before the
> courts for alleged World War Two war crimes. I had pointed out
> that,
Pointed out? Is that what you call the browbeating and bullying you
subjected Chuck Ferree to by posting the same long set of questions
over one hundred time?
It didn't matter how many times or how they were answered, Gestapo
Dave wasn't going to let up until Chuck "confessed."
> based upon his
> own postings to this newsgroup, Chuck Ferree was a war criminal.
Easy to attack the dead, isn't it, you prick.
> Specifically, for example, he boasted that he had 'bombed civilians
> and strafed them too', that he had bombed German cities 'more than
> necessary' and that he had murdered a man on a bicycle. I observed
> that the
> anti-revisionists were not exactly falling over themselves to have
> THAT particular war criminal dragged before the courts -- quite the
> opposite. John Morris was so desperate to shut me up
I wasn't desperate. I was disgusted by you.
> that he posted enough information
> about me to enable anyone who wished to do so to go and perpetrate
> violence against me. My motives were to expose the truth about
> your dishonesty. Morris's motive was to prevent the truth from
> being revealed.
My motive was to stop a childish bully in his tracks. And it worked:
you stopped spamming your questions.
And then you started posting under your name thus ensuring that
anyone who wished to do so could go and perpetrate violence against
you.
A word to the wise: if you are going to post pseudonymously, don't
use your real userid.
A word to David E. Michael: wise up.
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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In <3aba...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Thu, 22
Mar 2001 23:39:40 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> Let me quote myself from a local newsletter:
> <begin quote>
> What is British nationalism all about? It has nothing to do with
> 'hating' people of other races and nations simply because they are
> of other races and nations. It certainly has nothing to do with
> wanting to dominate or oppress other races and nations. British
> nationalism is not about 'fascism' or 'Nazism' or any other foreign
> ideology.
Or, put another way:
<quote>
Imagine a world very different from the world we inhabit
today. Imagine a world free from the wars that have scarred
the face of this tired old planet since the beginning of time; a
world with no extreme poverty, with no disease, with no
exploitation of worker by employer, no jolting financial crises
(with the misery that such crises entail) - -- a world united in a
common purpose and a common vision. Imagine a world free from the
old conflicts, where worker and employer strive side-by-side for
the common good, where 'Left' and 'Right' are mere historical
anachronisms, where nation works peacefully alongside nation for
the greater glory of all the earth. Imagine, if you will, a world
where, through a process of artificial genetic selection, mankind
has been enhanced to heights undreamed of: when, year by year, mere
human beings grow ever closer to becoming gods. Think of the beauty
of those people, of their art, their music, their literature. Think
of their levels of culture, their humanity, their nobility. Now
contrast this with the world that has been bequeathed to our
children as a result of that needless and miserable world war.
Just pick up a newspaper and look around you -- look at what your
'liberals' and your 'democrats' have left to them. Look at the
dull-eyed teenagers, drugged to their eyeballs, staggering around
bleak housing estates, their stereos blaring drum-beats! What do
they know of the glories of a Bruckner symphony, or the
heart-rending beauty of Nietzsche? What good have 'democracy' and
'liberalism' ever done for them, Mr G? Answer me that! Look at
Africa and Asia -- thousands upon thousands of square miles,
characterized by war, starvation, famine, massacre, corruption,
decay, filth. What good have 'freedom' and 'rights' ever done for
the inhabitants of those miserable regions? Answer me that! What
good is 'freedom' to a man who cannot afford to buy his daily
bread? Tell me that, Mr G! Look at the legacy of communism -- the
blood red claw that, even today, enslaves a quarter of the world's
population. Think of the 200 million corpses -- people who died as
victims of this evil claw, for no good purpose whatsoever. Now can
you honestly put your hand on your heart and tell me, in all
sincerity, sir, that you truly and without reservation believe that
the world you and your kind have bequeathed to future generations
- --
the world that has given us Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and the
pathetic figure of William Jefferson Clinton, who symbolizes all
that is wrong with this earth -- that you honestly believe that
this world you have left for us is better than our alternative? Can
you honestly tell me that the dream of a beautiful new world that I
have outlined above -- the dream that inspired countless thousands
of young Europeans to flock to the National Socialist banner -- is
not worth fighting for? Can you honestly tell me that it is not
worth dying for?
</quote>
[snip]
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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david_michael
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
Now please post the second item in its entirety.
If you dare.
David
John Morris
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In <3abb...@news-uk.onetel.net.uk> in alt.revisionism, on Fri, 23
Mar 2001 17:03:39 -0000, "david_michael"
<david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> Now please post the second item in its entirety.
> If you dare.
Sure, no problem:
<quote>
Second, the National Socialists were nationalists. At the
end of the day, nationalism, in the sense that I'd use it, is
not an abstract theory or set of propositions or ideology. It
is love of one's people and homeland, and a desire to serve,
preserve and enhance them. Nothing more and nothing less.
It is a sentiment, like love of one's wife. It cannot be
justified or refuted, although, irritatingly, people keep
trying to justify it -- and I dare say you've shot a few of
them down in flames in this very newsgroup! It does not entail
hatred of other nations, any more than your love of your
wife or children or pet hamster entails hatred of other
wives of children or hamsters. It is more a case of: 'this
is MINE -- this is what I love and shall defend'. Maybe I'm
just an old-fashioned Romantic, Mr G, but I sincerely love
my homeland and people, for all their faults, and would like
to serve them as best I can, not out of a wish for personal
gain or to further any ideology, but in the true spirit
of public service. I recognize in the National Socialists
a similar spirit. How can I condemn in them a feeling that
is so strong in myself?
</quote>
- --
John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
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McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
Special note on Sara "Crackpot" Salzman's brief reply to my extensive
catalog of her lies and delusions. Her reply to my documented proofs is at
the bottom of this post. I now "copy 'n' paste" her reply to my documented
irrefutable proofs just below and I will make current comment on them.
who is completely devoid of telling the truth and then when she is shown
to be lying she goes into denial.
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the $1000.00 challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth. You are also making a statement about your mental state
too! You show you have no self pride because you still try to avoid the
truth with your desperate denials in view of so many people! No one with
any self respect or self pride would keep denying the painfully obvious.
Seeing how you are possibly only the mouthpiece of Yale F. Edeiken then it
is possible he's projecting his denial of reality through you. Common
sense would say he would want less criminal indictments against him!
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig- in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
Here is a reminder-
Remember this announcement swine?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=22&seld=911517027&ic=1
From: McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
(DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com)
Subject: R 2 _ Sara Squealing Like a Stuck Pig Now That She is Caught..
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2001-03-22 04:16:08 PST
>> That damned perjury just will not go away!
>Only in your diseased mind.
You're beginning to sound like your teacher now!
>File now. Don't delay. Get those perjury charges filed, Mr. Bradbury.
One thing at a time. You must remember "I have all the time in the world"
and I would much rather bag Edeiken with a nice solid criminal
prosecution. He comes first and then you! Wait your turn now!
>NO one in Usenet cares what you think.
You mean no one on YOUR side cares what I think! My e-mail box is ringing
with salutations over how I am really giving you a pasting. How many lies
have I caught you in this week?
>Let's hear from the Judge.
In due time piglet.
>Do it NOW, Mr. Bradbury. Shut your idiotic mouth and file the charges.
Looks like you have a masochistic bent.
>Because filing false charges is SUCH a no-no,
Now you are beginning to get the picture! What I claim I can prove with
your and your fellows own documented words YET you make charges without
one bit of evidence.
>and I believe you're just stupid enough to do it.
I'm not the one who's been stupid! I'm not the one who submitted sworn
testimony and not being able to prove what I claim.
You on the other hand submitted as "Statement of Fact" in sworn testimony
that I did:
1) threatening to sexually molest Deponent, threatening to torture
Deponent to death, and threatening to use her skin for "lampshades."
2) threats against Deponent's children and family
3) publication of her home address and of the telephone numbers of
Deponent and her father
4) publication of the addresses and phone numbers of Deponent's neighbors
5) publication of a photograph purported to be Deponent's house
6) publication of a map and directions to Deponent's house
7) publication of untrue statements about Deponent, including statement
that deponent abuses her children, that Deponent abuses drugs, and that
Deponent "fucks dogs."
8) filed false accusations with child protection authorities in Deponent's
community and have encouraged others to do the same.
9) A death threat to then-President Clinton was e-mailed to the White
House forged in Deponent's name
10) forged Deponent's 9-year-old daughter in Internet posts soliciting sex
and accusing Deponent of forcing said daughter to have sex for money.
11) Deponent has been told she had "better not" testify.
12) including threats to sue Deponent's father and threats to "visit him."
It is my right to litigate your father if I so choose. If litigating him
is a "threat" then Yale threatened me! Now show proof that I made
concerning your father 'threats to "visit him."'
Show documentation showing that I did as you accuse. If you can't then you
perjured and from this end I say as FACT you perjured!
Don't try again to hand me that crap "The Judge has accepted as fact"
because what may be accepted as fact has in many cases turned out to be
submitting "false statements of fact". Now you cam keep acting like a dumb
stupid pig with your wise cracks and not see the seriousness of the matter
but irregardless of your childish insults I will, to the very best of my
ability, make you pay for lies against my character and me as a person!
~~End of GOOGLE Archive and Reminder To a Perjurer~~
(Back to Sara's current reply):
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if I have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
It is going to be a real pleasure to see you go down in flames. You made
over thirteen combined perjured "statements of fact" in your affidavit and
how you handle truth in this post alone just well may be used against you
too!
BTW Sara I just found this post which also "conflicts with your:
"YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS"
LOOK!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=thanksgiving=&rnum=2&seld=961820704&ic=1
From: Patrick L. Humphrey (pat...@io.com)
Subject: Re: Doc "No fat chicks" Tavish
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-11-21 13:10:01 PST
Derek Bell <db...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> writes:
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> wrote:
>: Don't ruin all of our appetites. Thanksgiving is but a few days away.
> Tavish - do you know the meaning of the word hypocryte? Your medical
>records describe you as being "morbidly obese".....
<<Doc Tavish comment March 23, 2001: Derek Bell claims: "Your medical
records describe you as being "morbidly obese"..." Now I wonder where he
got the idea my medical records describe me as being "morbidly obese"? I
never posted that my medical records described me as being "morbidly
obese" and only one person has posted "oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height
as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." Care
to still deny that Yale F. Edeiken was the ONLY one who posted such?If you
keep lying then it will be sure evidence that you have lied concerning
other things such as all the lies you told about me in your affidavit!>>
What do you expect from someone as divorced from reality as Bradbury?
<<Doc Tavish comment March 23, 2001: The people who have demonstrably
demonstrated being "divorced from reality is you and you fellow vermin.>>
> Furrfu!!!
I hear you. :-)
--PLH, not giving away that secret
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
(End of Sara's reply to the posting made below):
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
(Yale now quotes what I posted):
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
<stop>
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
<End of original posting restore to its status just before Sara replies
below. I wanted the text to have less of those ">" attributes in it. This
will be my presentation post in upcoming days. Doc Tavish>
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
>
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
>DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
>
>Sara
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stop+bothering=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn
ci8n/XghDPGivz1n/STLwEI6Vigolhq/Pj4i8bmF
468N9lM8HcKiNW2SYJ7ePUiVlNng/kR3pbWRoqLIX
STILL NO SPACES OR BLANK LINES LIKE YALE'S FORGED EXAMPLE OF MY DIGSIG!
LOOK!
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
<start>
39 That on November 11, 1999, Defendant sent Plaintiff an
electronic communication stating in pertinent part:
"You are just as much of a filthy little cock sucker vermin as your butt
buddy Jeff Brown. You have to rely on out of context quotes and character
assassination. It would be a pleasure to see someone slowly work you over
with an ice pick Yale!"
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
191xllxyGtVQwy0mtCiBjivyX+knCUXYwdRt ptdrtqb
qfQbXQtisWlB/E1+yWkYkw1Wr7mGiAFcJ w6Wl/aU
4GEbQtlQOHN/G3asOLBC9JmQXWuqXwj BnPCuOV9cd
Said telephonic communication is attached hereto and made part
hereof as Exhibit "A-16."
<stop>
The above is an EXACT quote from the post Ken McVay posted and here is the
GOOGLE archive link for verification:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=McVay=&rnum=1&seld=925573239&ic=1
"ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE DEEMED ADMITTED."
alt.revisionism - 14/Feb/2001 by Kenneth McVay, OBC
Crypto Kong does not insert blank lines in between "Authentic Doc Tavish"
and the crypto-text as confirmed by the software's author to both myself
and my attorney!
Here is the official reply to my inquiry:
X-Sender: jam...@shell11.ba.best.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:51:20 -0800
To: Scott Bradbury <xx...@flash.net>
From: "James A. Donald"
Subject: Re: Inquiry on Crypto-Kong Signatures
Cc: "Daylin B. Leach - Attorney at Law" <xxx...@aol.com>
--
At 0412 AM 2/23/2001 -0600, Scott Bradbury wrote
> The above forged digital signataure is verbatim and is exactly which was
> presented to the court.
To be presented to the court, it must be alleged to have signed
something. A digital signature without the text that it signed is of no
significance.
(Note: I did not include Yale's fabricated e-mail- I just sent Mr. Donald
the forged digital signature.)
> The digsig also has a blank line in between "Authentic Doc
> Tavish" and the bogus crypto-text. Your software does not do this in
> ANY example I've ever seen.
That is perfectly true. My program does not emit such blank lines, which
suggest fabrication, but not strong evidence of anything much, since the
blank line could have arisen from various accidents in transferring text
from one program to another.
> I do this for the benefit of my attorney. -)
--digsig
James A. Donald
6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG
GnwV4rmsIA8faEZwt0YOXUiSSJflZjiLd/kTrWIn
4F1jg73LTqhfLPw9BVz2uDGwa7v2WYBG0wNGHSkoM
<END>
--
As for Mr. Donald's statement: "the blank line could have arisen from
various accidents in transferring text from one program to another"-
the above fabricated signature from Edeiken's complaint is verbatim in the
group of false accusations known as "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT ... ARE
DEEMED ADMITTED." Notice Mr. Donald's digsig? No spaces and blank lines!
Notice my digsig made on this paragraph alone?
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn
ejnWmIh1JCyv0DNQedTMFE/cAfXBLuqdxSAkk9w/
4O0CysIswhm2G04W2mJFeW7C7K5RHQkNr3oFBzH6X
NO BLANK LINES AND SPACES!
What are the penalties for submitting manufactured evidence?
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
such as Yale F. Edeiken posting "fabricated details" for my medical
records; then how can anyone ever believe what they have to say about what
happened over 50 years ago?
If they are in denial over what happened in the past year or so and so
brazen in their lies and denial then why should they be trusted concerning
events in the distant past? In my mind's eye the Jews in this news group
and their sycophant Gentile toadies have no credibility!
Look at how Jeffrey G. Brown lies about Nizkor keeping files on private
citizens:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Jeffrey+G.+Brown=&rnum=1&seld=942639209&ic=1
"Jeffrey G. Brown Lies About Nizkor Files on Private Citizens.."
In the above archive Jeffrey G. Brown makes the false claim:
> I thought Jeffrey G. Brown said that Nizkor doesn't keep files on private
> citizens!
They don't. They keep archives of the postings that you and your fellow
cowards make to Usenet.
<end>
The following link is an example of what Jeffrey claims as: "archives of
the postings that you and your fellow cowards make to Usenet." Nizkor does
NOT archive our posts in their original and in context versions. What
Nizkor does is selectively doctor the posts which means deleting the
majority of the content and adding their own comments and all done in
order to smear their opposition and misrepresent what they posted.
THAT IS FACT!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=24&seld=920967368&ic=1
"Nizkor Dishonesty and Their Warped Versions of OUR Posts!"
-- 2
Special note on Sara "Crackpot" Salzman's brief reply to my extensive
catalog of her lies and delusions. Her reply to my documented proofs is at
the bottom of this post. I now "copy 'n' paste" her reply to my documented
irrefutable proofs just below and I will make current comment on them.
Sara makes my case very solid in demonstrating she is a pathological liar
who is completely devoid of telling the truth and then when she is shown
to be lying she goes into denial.
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the $1000.00 challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth. You are also making a statement about your mental state
too! You show you have no self pride because you still try to avoid the
truth with your desperate denials in view of so many people! No one with
any self respect or self pride would keep denying the painfully obvious.
Seeing how you are possibly only the mouthpiece of Yale F. Edeiken then it
is possible he's projecting his denial of reality through you. Common
sense would say he would want less criminal indictments against him!
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig- in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
Here is a reminder-
Remember this announcement swine?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=22&seld=911517027&ic=1
In due time piglet.
submitting "false statements of fact". Now you can keep acting like a dumb
stupid pig with your wise cracks and not see the seriousness of the matter
but irregardless of your childish insults I will, to the very best of my
ability, make you pay for lies against my character and me as a person!
~~End of GOOGLE Archive and Reminder To a Perjurer~~
(Back to Sara's current reply):
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if I have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
LOOK!
Derek Bell <db...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> writes:
> Furrfu!!!
I hear you. :-)
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
(Yale now quotes what I posted):
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
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<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
<End of original posting restore to its status just before Sara replies
below. I wanted the text to have less of those ">" attributes in it. This
will be my presentation post in upcoming days. Doc Tavish>
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
>
--
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
>DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
>
>Sara
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
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david_michael
"John Morris" <John....@UAlberta.CA> wrote in message
So I see you do not have the courage to post the item in its entirety. Had
you done so, readers would have observed that I was responding to a post by
Dr Gorski in which he asked me my views about National Socialism. I outlined
what I considered to be its good and bad points. You repost the 'good' bits
and snip the criticisms in an attempt to misrepresent me as a National
Socialist. An old an much-worn trick that exposes the dishonesty of
anti-revisionists such as yourself for all to see.
And I expect we'll have to go around this particular bush several million
times more.
David
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
weasel out of this current group of lies she's been exposed propagating.
Is not one of the vital characteristics of a pathological liar being
"unable to accept that they've lied when proven so with overwhelming
evidence and they are hostile toward those who attempt to make them
confront their delusions concerning the truth (and reality)? Look at the
claims made by both Yale F. Edeiken and Sara "Crackpot" Salzman and see
how I dismiss their delusions. Sara I am dying to see how you spin this
post!
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
-- 1
Looks like you're projecting your delusional mental state you perjurer and
proven pathological liar!
>Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
>statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
What is this perjurer? From what source did Yale F. Edeiken say he got
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Sara, in regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
Post number two:
You already have.
In regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show me how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what
did he base his statement on): "According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Who did Yale use as a source of his statements? "Hermann Hostital"
What did "Hermann Hostital" allegedly tell me according to
Yale F. Edeiken? "You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight....
Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your
pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
How many lies have I caught you in you mentally deluded pig? A BUNCH!!
Here is the clincher which slam dunks your umpteenth lie that you stated
as quoted: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.... You're not only a complete
idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale never said he posted your medical
records. YOU did. Yale made some general statements, and YOU claimed he
had posted your records."
In his very own words archived at GOOGLE.COM:
<<Pretty well slam dunks your self delusion of: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS... You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale
never said he posted your medical records." Looks like Yale countered what
you now claim Sara! Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> > and second because he invited the public to look at it:
<<I positively did NOT invite the public to look at it. I said precisely
and it is still in this archived document as Yale showed below: "You think
I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this..." Who was I replying to? Yale F. Edeiken! My statement: "If you
wish to verify.." Was addressed to whom? The person I was replying to-
Yale F. Edeiken. No where did I "invite the public to look at it." Once
again Yale lied back then and Sara lies now!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> Hardly looks like Bradbury invited the public to have it. >
<Yale F. Edeiken finally replies>:
Then read it again. It was not addressed to me but to the puublic:
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
> >about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
> >before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
> >wish to verify this then contact:
> >Hermann Hospital
> >Medical Records
> >P.O. Box 200758
> >Houston, Texas 77216-0758
> >
> >The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
> >"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
> >Date you can return to work: HOLD
> >Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
> >Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
> >(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
> >work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
> >The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
> >50 04882 6 9356
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<stop>
Big deal- no controversy! Yet what you posted the medical document said
was all lies! Once again the document did NOT have height nor weight
fields on it NOR did it say in the "discharge diagnosis" what you claimed:
"According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You have been tppld to exercise
and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." IN OTHER WORDS- YOU'RE
A LIAR!!!
2) "make fraudulent claims about it"
I was not the one to make fraudulent claims about it- you were the one
making fraudulent claims about it you posted "details" which were NOT on
it! The date is March 22, 2001 and I will make sure the appropriate people
get a copy of the document and this very post and let then see who the
liar is!
3) "invite others to look at it"
No where did I "invite others to look at it" and for a fact it was only
YOU I gave exclusive permission to verify it. I addressed my: "You think I
made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this then contact: Hermann Hospital Medical Records" to you Yale F.
Edeiken and NOT to the public and as proof:
a) I had stated: "You think I made the above up to escape your deposition"
My use of the word "You" was addressed to whom? Not the public for sure!
Why? The public was not "requesting" I attend a deposition and that is why
I also said in the same statement: "escape your deposition."
b) I had stated: "eight whole days before I had an official notice that
you had even filed a lawsuit"
To whom was the usage of "you" addressed to? The public? NO! Did the
public serve me with a notice that it had filed a lawsuit? The "you" still
applies to you and YOU alone!
c) I had stated: "If you wish to verify this then contact: Hermann
Hospital Medical Records"
Who was I addressing my remarks to? Yale F. Edeiken! NOT the public.
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
---
"If you stop fabricating lies about me, I will stop disclosing the
truth about you." Adapted from UKRAINE ORGANIZATION'S Terms of Truce
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DELETE2MAI...@my-deja.com wrote:
> New comment: If some Jews are shown to be liars about things so obvious
> such as Yale F. Edeiken posting "fabricated details" for my medical
> records; then how can anyone ever believe what they have to say about
> what
> happened over 50 years ago?
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
Those deniers are _so_ predictable.
William Daffer
What, precisely, is stopping you from posting whatever section of
your 'beautiful dream' post you think exonerates you of the charge
that you are fundamentally a neo-nazi, except for some trivial
disagreements? If you think you've been misrepresented, produce the
part of the post that proves the misrepresentation! Each time you
make this claim without producing proof of it, you are simply
creating more evidence for the counterclaim that your objection is
empty. In short, if you don't produce that part of the post which
you always complain about, why shouldn't we take that very fact as
proof that it doesn't exist and that you are simply engaging in the
'big lie' technique?
Which, we all know, was yet another notable characteristic of the
Nazis.
whd
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>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<end>
Here is what Yale posted as contents of the above numbered document:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:46:01 GMT
Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com> wrote in message
news:kr8osscef1a47ihc0...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 21, 2001: You're about to reap a real whirlwind
Yale. You have been identified as "nazihunter" who incited murder against
me and you subpoenaed medical records, thus invading my privacy, and then
made alleged details public which is against PA Code. See the proof at the
bottom of this post. I will press every charge I can against you too!>>
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As for Yale's statement: "You have been tppld to exercise and lose
weight"- I was NOT told such and I was NEVER told anything about my weight
and for a fact the discharge summary of Hermann Hospital for my December
22, 1999 discharge date had neither my height nor weight on the document.
The document did not even have fields for height or weight!
In the future the document will be presented to a court showing invasion
of privacy, inciting harassment against a person of disability (which is
my legal status!), and making false defamatory statements to a public
forum as an attorney against a defendant in order to have him harassed!
I would love nothing more than to submit a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" to
the Disciplinary Board and have them ask Yale what purpose he had to
subpoena the record in the first place and then lie in public postings
about its contents! Do you approve of this activity Sara? I bet you do.
Need I say more to a stupid pig? Nah- read my sigline!
Doc Tavish
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
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such as Yale F. Edeiken posting "fabricated details" for my medical
records; then how can anyone ever believe what they have to say about what
happened over 50 years ago?
If they are in denial over what happened in the past year or so and so
<end>
THAT IS FACT!
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the $1000.00 challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth. You are also making a statement about your mental state
too! You show you have no self pride because you still try to avoid the
truth with your desperate denials in view of so many people! No one with
any self respect or self pride would keep denying the painfully obvious.
Seeing how you are possibly only the mouthpiece of Yale F. Edeiken then it
is possible he's projecting his denial of reality through you. Common
sense would say he would want less criminal indictments against him!
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig- in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
Here is a reminder-
Remember this announcement swine?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=22&seld=911517027&ic=1
In due time piglet.
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if I have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
LOOK!
Derek Bell <db...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> writes:
> Furrfu!!!
I hear you. :-)
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
(Yale now quotes what I posted):
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
<stop>
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
<End of original posting restore to its status just before Sara replies
below. I wanted the text to have less of those ">" attributes in it. This
will be my presentation post in upcoming days. Doc Tavish>
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
>
--
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
>DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
>
>Sara
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
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weasel out of this current group of lies she's been exposed propagating.
Is not one of the vital characteristics of a pathological liar being
"unable to accept that they've lied when proven so with overwhelming
evidence and they are hostile toward those who attempt to make them
confront their delusions concerning the truth (and reality)? Look at the
claims made by both Yale F. Edeiken and Sara "Crackpot" Salzman and see
how I dismiss their delusions. Sara I am dying to see how you spin this
post!
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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Looks like you're projecting your delusional mental state you perjurer and
proven pathological liar!
>Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
>statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
What is this perjurer? From what source did Yale F. Edeiken say he got
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Sara, in regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
Post number two:
You already have.
In regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show me how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what
did he base his statement on): "According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Who did Yale use as a source of his statements? "Hermann Hostital"
What did "Hermann Hostital" allegedly tell me according to
Yale F. Edeiken? "You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight....
Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your
pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
How many lies have I caught you in you mentally deluded pig? A BUNCH!!
Here is the clincher which slam dunks your umpteenth lie that you stated
as quoted: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.... You're not only a complete
idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale never said he posted your medical
records. YOU did. Yale made some general statements, and YOU claimed he
had posted your records."
In his very own words archived at GOOGLE.COM:
<<Pretty well slam dunks your self delusion of: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS... You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one. Yale
never said he posted your medical records." Looks like Yale countered what
you now claim Sara! Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> > and second because he invited the public to look at it:
<<I positively did NOT invite the public to look at it. I said precisely
and it is still in this archived document as Yale showed below: "You think
I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this..." Who was I replying to? Yale F. Edeiken! My statement: "If you
wish to verify.." Was addressed to whom? The person I was replying to-
Yale F. Edeiken. No where did I "invite the public to look at it." Once
again Yale lied back then and Sara lies now!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> Hardly looks like Bradbury invited the public to have it. >
<Yale F. Edeiken finally replies>:
Then read it again. It was not addressed to me but to the puublic:
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
> >about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
> >before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
> >wish to verify this then contact:
> >Hermann Hospital
> >Medical Records
> >P.O. Box 200758
> >Houston, Texas 77216-0758
> >
> >The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
> >"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
> >Date you can return to work: HOLD
> >Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
> >Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
> >(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
> >work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
> >The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
> >50 04882 6 9356
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<stop>
Big deal- no controversy! Yet what you posted the medical document said
was all lies! Once again the document did NOT have height nor weight
fields on it NOR did it say in the "discharge diagnosis" what you claimed:
"According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You have been tppld to exercise
and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." IN OTHER WORDS- YOU'RE
A LIAR!!!
2) "make fraudulent claims about it"
I was not the one to make fraudulent claims about it- you were the one
making fraudulent claims about it you posted "details" which were NOT on
it! The date is March 22, 2001 and I will make sure the appropriate people
get a copy of the document and this very post and let then see who the
liar is!
3) "invite others to look at it"
No where did I "invite others to look at it" and for a fact it was only
YOU I gave exclusive permission to verify it. I addressed my: "You think I
made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this then contact: Hermann Hospital Medical Records" to you Yale F.
Edeiken and NOT to the public and as proof:
a) I had stated: "You think I made the above up to escape your deposition"
My use of the word "You" was addressed to whom? Not the public for sure!
Why? The public was not "requesting" I attend a deposition and that is why
I also said in the same statement: "escape your deposition."
b) I had stated: "eight whole days before I had an official notice that
you had even filed a lawsuit"
To whom was the usage of "you" addressed to? The public? NO! Did the
public serve me with a notice that it had filed a lawsuit? The "you" still
applies to you and YOU alone!
c) I had stated: "If you wish to verify this then contact: Hermann
Hospital Medical Records"
Who was I addressing my remarks to? Yale F. Edeiken! NOT the public.
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:44:00 GMT, John Morris <John....@UAlberta.CA>
wrote:
>Lives endangered? My, my. This becomes more dramatic with each
>retelling. Funny how you felt your life endangered, but did nothing,
>for two full years...
Sounds like you're describing Yale F. Edeiken!
He accuses me of making an anonymous post giving his name, address, and
telephone number on June 1, 1998 and then a little more than two years
later he decided he was threatened and files a "lawsuit on December 30,
1999!
BTW when are you going to answer for YOUR hypocrisy John?
LOOK!
Subject: John Morris' Pal Acts Up Again and John Remains Silent - John
Approves of Innocent People Being Harassed!
What does this say of John Morris' character?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:31:44 -0600
From: "Public <Anonymous_Account>" <rema...@anon.xg.nu>
Subject: TELL SCOTTIE'S NEIGHBORS AT 15 N. MECHANIC WHAT A PIG HE IS
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
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I'M SURE THAT <names of two innocent people removed> WHO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO
SCOTTIE AT 15 N. MECHANIC STREET IN BELLVILLE ALREADY KNOW WHAT A MORBIDLY
OBESE PIG HE IS.
BUT WHY NOT CALL THEM AT <telephone number removed> AND ASK THEM IF THEY
ARE ALSO AWARE THAT HE IS A CHRONICALLY UNEMPLOYED WELFARE CHEAT.
COURTESY OF NAZIHUNTER
HIYA JOHN!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~END~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Both John Morris and Ken McVay claim they know who this criminal is BUT
they sit on their hands! Just as they deny Yale F. Edeiken being the
"nazihunter" of December 1999 they "deny" through inaction that one on
THEIR side harasses innocent people. I don't expect Ken McVay who is
devoid of any sort of fair play to do any thing but I thought by now
John Morris would stop being a god damned coward! If you know who the
bastard is John then report him. If you know who he is and you don't do
anything then you are just as guilty in many people's eyes.
It is your side and your side alone who makes these sort of terroristic
attacks on innocent people and also invite people to visit others with
baseball bats.
You side also almost to the last person exclusively engages in personal
attack and insult in almost every post made.
Scott
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THAT IS FACT!
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the $1000.00 challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth. You are also making a statement about your mental state
too! You show you have no self pride because you still try to avoid the
truth with your desperate denials in view of so many people! No one with
any self respect or self pride would keep denying the painfully obvious.
Seeing how you are possibly only the mouthpiece of Yale F. Edeiken then it
is possible he's projecting his denial of reality through you. Common
sense would say he would want less criminal indictments against him!
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig- in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
Here is a reminder-
Remember this announcement swine?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=22&seld=911517027&ic=1
In due time piglet.
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if I have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
LOOK!
Derek Bell <db...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> writes:
> Furrfu!!!
I hear you. :-)
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
(Yale now quotes what I posted):
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
<stop>
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
<End of original posting restore to its status just before Sara replies
below. I wanted the text to have less of those ">" attributes in it. This
will be my presentation post in upcoming days. Doc Tavish>
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
>
--
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
>DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
>
>Sara
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"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
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>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Patrick never took me up on the challenge and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<end>
Here is what Yale posted as contents of the above numbered document:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 21, 2001: You're about to reap a real whirlwind
Yale. You have been identified as "nazihunter" who incited murder against
me and you subpoenaed medical records, thus invading my privacy, and then
made alleged details public which is against PA Code. See the proof at the
bottom of this post. I will press every charge I can against you too!>>
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As for Yale's statement: "You have been tppld to exercise and lose
weight"- I was NOT told such and I was NEVER told anything about my weight
and for a fact the discharge summary of Hermann Hospital for my December
22, 1999 discharge date had neither my height nor weight on the document.
The document did not even have fields for height or weight!
In the future the document will be presented to a court showing invasion
of privacy, inciting harassment against a person of disability (which is
my legal status!), and making false defamatory statements to a public
forum as an attorney against a defendant in order to have him harassed!
I would love nothing more than to submit a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" to
the Disciplinary Board and have them ask Yale what purpose he had to
subpoena the record in the first place and then lie in public postings
about its contents! Do you approve of this activity Sara? I bet you do.
Need I say more to a stupid pig? Nah- read my sigline!
Doc Tavish
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weasel out of this current group of lies she's been exposed propagating.
Is not one of the vital characteristics of a pathological liar being
"unable to accept that they've lied when proven so with overwhelming
evidence and they are hostile toward those who attempt to make them
confront their delusions concerning the truth (and reality)? Look at the
claims made by both Yale F. Edeiken and Sara "Crackpot" Salzman and see
how I dismiss their delusions. Sara I am dying to see how you spin this
post!
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
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On 22 Mar 2001 20:21:34 GMT, Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <se4jbt8n9t2oeof0l...@4ax.com>,
>OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
Looks like you're projecting your delusional mental state you perjurer and
proven pathological liar!
>Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
>statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
What is this perjurer? From what source did Yale F. Edeiken say he got
the "discharge diagnosis" and my weight? (Notice Hermann Hospital in the
text you pathological liar and perjurer?)
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From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
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From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
>
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001: For a fact I have never "admitted"
Yale F. Edeiken's "allegations" were accurate. Until Sara Salzman and Ken
McVay posted the documents titled: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT AND
ADMISSIONS ARE DEEMED ADMITTED" I had no idea of what the allegations
were!!! Yale F. Edeiken never sent me his "allegations!" In fact when the
attorney I had hired asked for a copy of the "complaints" he was told via
e-mail: "FUCK YOU!">>
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
In regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show me how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what
did he base his statement on): "According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Who did Yale use as a source of his statements? "Hermann Hostital"
What did "Hermann Hostital" allegedly tell me according to
Yale F. Edeiken? "You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight....
Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your
pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
How many lies have I caught you in you mentally deluded pig? A BUNCH!!
and it is still in this archived document as Yale showed below: "You think
I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this..." Who was I replying to? Yale F. Edeiken! My statement: "If you
wish to verify.." Was addressed to whom? The person I was replying to-
Yale F. Edeiken. No where did I "invite the public to look at it." Once
again Yale lied back then and Sara lies now!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> Hardly looks like Bradbury invited the public to have it. >
<Yale F. Edeiken finally replies>:
Then read it again. It was not addressed to me but to the puublic:
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
> >about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
> >before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
> >wish to verify this then contact:
> >Hermann Hospital
> >Medical Records
> >P.O. Box 200758
> >Houston, Texas 77216-0758
> >
> >The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
> >"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
> >Date you can return to work: HOLD
> >Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
> >Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
> >(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
> >work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
> >The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
> >50 04882 6 9356
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Well did Yale or did he not subpoena a medical record on me? Did Yale or
did he not post alleged details from it?
As for Yale's statement: "Then you should not have piublished part of it,
make fraudulent claims about it, and invite others to look at it."
I answer multi-part with:
1) "Then you should not have piublished part of it.."
What I published was no big deal and I will "piublish" it again:
<start>
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<stop>
Big deal- no controversy! Yet what you posted the medical document said
was all lies! Once again the document did NOT have height nor weight
fields on it NOR did it say in the "discharge diagnosis" what you claimed:
"According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You have been tppld to exercise
and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." IN OTHER WORDS- YOU'RE
A LIAR!!!
2) "make fraudulent claims about it"
I was not the one to make fraudulent claims about it- you were the one
making fraudulent claims about it you posted "details" which were NOT on
it! The date is March 22, 2001 and I will make sure the appropriate people
get a copy of the document and this very post and let then see who the
liar is!
3) "invite others to look at it"
No where did I "invite others to look at it" and for a fact it was only
YOU I gave exclusive permission to verify it. I addressed my: "You think I
made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this then contact: Hermann Hospital Medical Records" to you Yale F.
Edeiken and NOT to the public and as proof:
a) I had stated: "You think I made the above up to escape your deposition"
My use of the word "You" was addressed to whom? Not the public for sure!
Why? The public was not "requesting" I attend a deposition and that is why
I also said in the same statement: "escape your deposition."
b) I had stated: "eight whole days before I had an official notice that
you had even filed a lawsuit"
To whom was the usage of "you" addressed to? The public? NO! Did the
public serve me with a notice that it had filed a lawsuit? The "you" still
applies to you and YOU alone!
c) I had stated: "If you wish to verify this then contact: Hermann
Hospital Medical Records"
Who was I addressing my remarks to? Yale F. Edeiken! NOT the public.
<end>
Doc Tavish
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[...]
<END>
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Patrick never took me up on the challenge and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<end>
Here is what Yale posted as contents of the above numbered document:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yfe=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 21, 2001: You're about to reap a real whirlwind
Yale. You have been identified as "nazihunter" who incited murder against
me and you subpoenaed medical records, thus invading my privacy, and then
made alleged details public which is against PA Code. See the proof at the
bottom of this post. I will press every charge I can against you too!>>
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
[...]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As for Yale's statement: "You have been tppld to exercise and lose
weight"- I was NOT told such and I was NEVER told anything about my weight
and for a fact the discharge summary of Hermann Hospital for my December
22, 1999 discharge date had neither my height nor weight on the document.
The document did not even have fields for height or weight!
In the future the document will be presented to a court showing invasion
of privacy, inciting harassment against a person of disability (which is
my legal status!), and making false defamatory statements to a public
forum as an attorney against a defendant in order to have him harassed!
I would love nothing more than to submit a copy of "50 04882 6 9356" to
the Disciplinary Board and have them ask Yale what purpose he had to
subpoena the record in the first place and then lie in public postings
about its contents! Do you approve of this activity Sara? I bet you do.
Need I say more to a stupid pig? Nah- read my sigline!
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weasel out of this current group of lies she's been exposed propagating.
Is not one of the vital characteristics of a pathological liar being
"unable to accept that they've lied when proven so with overwhelming
evidence and they are hostile toward those who attempt to make them
confront their delusions concerning the truth (and reality)? Look at the
claims made by both Yale F. Edeiken and Sara "Crackpot" Salzman and see
how I dismiss their delusions. Sara I am dying to see how you spin this
post!
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
informed Deponent (Sara Salzman) that she was a 'crackpot.'"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=crackpot=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
-- 1
On 22 Mar 2001 20:21:34 GMT, Sara <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <se4jbt8n9t2oeof0l...@4ax.com>,
>OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
Looks like you're projecting your delusional mental state you perjurer and
proven pathological liar!
>Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
>statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
What is this perjurer? From what source did Yale F. Edeiken say he got
the "discharge diagnosis" and my weight? (Notice Hermann Hospital in the
text you pathological liar and perjurer?)
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Date: 2001-03-07 05:28:05 PST
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From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hermann=&rnum=1&seld=985171143&ic=1
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Allan Mathews' Liberal Love and Tolerance Manifested --
Aren't Lefties "Nice" People?!
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Doc Tavish <doc_t...@NOSPAMscottsmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:19:24 +0100, david_michael
> <david_...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >Allan Matthews wrote:
> >
> >> In article <39CBDCFD...@onetel.net.uk>,
> >> david_...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >> He's a deadbeat who supposedly can't work because he's such a lazy
> >> porker his blood pressure is dangerously high.
>
> Care to substantiate your actionable libel big mouth?
You already have.
> Oooh but the hate shows! You lefties are supposed to be the loving types
> full of tolerance and understanding! I am actually glad that you filth
> show your hateful hypocrisy because that is the only way you can get back
> at me for what I post. Expect more articles chronicling how Jews view
> non-Jews in upcoming days!
You are reaping what you have sown, Bradshit.
> My high blood pressure as well as my other medical problems come from
> permanent nerve damage due to (possibly) exposure to some chemical agent
> (lead) that caused such. I have nerve damage in the area of my right ear
> and in my upper spinal column.
According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity." That is well-jnow contributing
factor for both jyoertension and sleep apnea.
> My activity level has nothing to do with it. I am under doctor's orders to
> not even mow my yard because of fainting spells etc. I don't really give a
> damn if you believe me or not you pernicious little shit but that's a
> fact.
You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.
> As for me being a porker-- I'm 6-3-1/2 and I carry my weight more like a
> quarter back than a waddling little penguin like Edeiken or a bulldog like
> Sara Salzman.
When you are wearing high-heeled shoes. mabye? Or have you been growing
altely. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one
of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
> >> Boogerman should have thought of that before he took the actions that
> >> got him in such hot water. He has no one but himself to blame for his
> >> predicament.
> What did I do? Care to name exactly what I did?
The allegations amde against you in court. All of which you have already
admitted were accurate.
<<Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001: For a fact I have never "admitted"
Yale F. Edeiken's "allegations" were accurate. Until Sara Salzman and Ken
McVay posted the documents titled: "ALL FACTS IN THE COMPLAINT AND
ADMISSIONS ARE DEEMED ADMITTED" I had no idea of what the allegations
were!!! Yale F. Edeiken never sent me his "allegations!" In fact when the
attorney I had hired asked for a copy of the "complaints" he was told via
e-mail: "FUCK YOU!">>
Now go eat a pizza.... or two ... or three . . ..or four.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
In regard to your nut case statement: "Yale never said
he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some general
statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records"
Care to show me how Yale "made some general statements" such as (and what
did he base his statement on): "According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity."
Have I ever said what he claims? NO, and once again you are caught lying!
Who did Yale use as a source of his statements? "Hermann Hostital"
What did "Hermann Hostital" allegedly tell me according to
Yale F. Edeiken? "You have been tppld to exercise and lose weight....
Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your
pronlems wsa "morbid obesity."
How many lies have I caught you in you mentally deluded pig? A BUNCH!!
and it is still in this archived document as Yale showed below: "You think
I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this..." Who was I replying to? Yale F. Edeiken! My statement: "If you
wish to verify.." Was addressed to whom? The person I was replying to-
Yale F. Edeiken. No where did I "invite the public to look at it." Once
again Yale lied back then and Sara lies now!
Doc Tavish comment March 22, 2001>>
> Hardly looks like Bradbury invited the public to have it. >
<Yale F. Edeiken finally replies>:
Then read it again. It was not addressed to me but to the puublic:
You think I made the above up to escape your deposition but the order
> >about my NOT driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days
> >before I had an official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you
> >wish to verify this then contact:
> >Hermann Hospital
> >Medical Records
> >P.O. Box 200758
> >Houston, Texas 77216-0758
> >
> >The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
> >"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
> >Date you can return to work: HOLD
> >Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
> >Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
> >(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
> >work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
> >The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
> >50 04882 6 9356
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>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
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Well did Yale or did he not subpoena a medical record on me? Did Yale or
did he not post alleged details from it?
As for Yale's statement: "Then you should not have piublished part of it,
make fraudulent claims about it, and invite others to look at it."
I answer multi-part with:
1) "Then you should not have piublished part of it.."
What I published was no big deal and I will "piublish" it again:
<start>
The discharge document which has an area on it which says:
"Resumption of Normal Activities" has entered:
Date you can return to work: HOLD
Date you can resume driving a car: HOLD
Date you can resume your normal sexual activities: 12/22/99
(At least they didn't want me to be miserable on top of not being able to
work or drive! :-) Tavish comment)
The release document is dated 12/22/99 and its number is:
50 04882 6 9356
<stop>
Big deal- no controversy! Yet what you posted the medical document said
was all lies! Once again the document did NOT have height nor weight
fields on it NOR did it say in the "discharge diagnosis" what you claimed:
"According tot he discharge summary, oince of the diafnoises made by
Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You have been tppld to exercise
and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." IN OTHER WORDS- YOU'RE
A LIAR!!!
2) "make fraudulent claims about it"
I was not the one to make fraudulent claims about it- you were the one
making fraudulent claims about it you posted "details" which were NOT on
it! The date is March 22, 2001 and I will make sure the appropriate people
get a copy of the document and this very post and let then see who the
liar is!
3) "invite others to look at it"
No where did I "invite others to look at it" and for a fact it was only
YOU I gave exclusive permission to verify it. I addressed my: "You think I
made the above up to escape your deposition but the order about my NOT
driving was issued December 22, 1999 or eight whole days before I had an
official notice that you had even filed a lawsuit! If you wish to verify
this then contact: Hermann Hospital Medical Records" to you Yale F.
Edeiken and NOT to the public and as proof:
a) I had stated: "You think I made the above up to escape your deposition"
My use of the word "You" was addressed to whom? Not the public for sure!
Why? The public was not "requesting" I attend a deposition and that is why
I also said in the same statement: "escape your deposition."
b) I had stated: "eight whole days before I had an official notice that
you had even filed a lawsuit"
To whom was the usage of "you" addressed to? The public? NO! Did the
public serve me with a notice that it had filed a lawsuit? The "you" still
applies to you and YOU alone!
c) I had stated: "If you wish to verify this then contact: Hermann
Hospital Medical Records"
Who was I addressing my remarks to? Yale F. Edeiken! NOT the public.
<end>
Doc Tavish
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THAT IS FACT!
Her reply:
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
Proving your point?!?! Your point was:
>> >OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER
>> >POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
>> >You're not only a complete idiot, you're a gullible one.
>> >Yale never said he posted your medical records. YOU did. Yale made some
>> >general statements, and YOU claimed he had posted your records.
Said in reply to my previous:
>> >> Patrick if you give me permission in public forum so it is documented
>> >> I will snail mail you with your permission a copy of "50 04882 6 9356"
>> >> and I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions "Morbid
>> >> Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in question does
>> >> NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it! Care to look?...
You, still being in denial claim as your point: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY
'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL
RECORDS."
Yale posted these words: ""According tot he discharge summary, oince
of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital was "morbid obesity... You
have been tppld to exercise and lose weight.... Hermann Hostital listed
your height as 6'1" and told you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid
obesity." as documented below with the GOOGLE URLs to access them for
verification. If Yale has done as you blindly still maintain with your
words: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE
___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" then from what source was he
making his as you said: "some general statements"? Yale did afterall say
as shown and documented: "oince of the diafnoises made by Hermann Hospital
was "morbid obesity.. Hermann Hostital listed your height as 6'1" and told
you that one of your pronlems wsa "morbid obesity." What was the source of
Yale's dis info? The Houston Chronicle? Yale was claiming these were the
words of Hermann Hospital! Now I ask how many more times are you going to
be in denial?
The ONLY way I can remotely accept your "point" is that you are admitting
that Yale F. Edeiken LIED about what my medical records said THUS proving
your "point" which you stated as: "OF COURSE IT DOESN'T SAY 'MORBID
OBESITY." THAT'S BECAUSE YALE ___NEVER POSTED___ YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS" in
reply to my: "I want you to carefully look it over to see if it mentions
"Morbid Obesity" or even my height or my weight. The medical document in
question does NOT even have weight NOR height fields on it!"
Is your point because Yale is a liar and posted information which was
false and libelous he didn't post my medical records?
That has to be the only "point" that could be true- YALE LIED. That was
the whole reason why I issued the challenge in the first place- to show
how your mentor is a pathological liar too!
Once again here is the $1000.00 challenge (first announced to Steve Wolk):
<START>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=04882=rnum=4&seld=958977982&ic=1
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavi...@scottsmail.com> writes:
[...]
[...]
<END>
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Patrick never took me up on the challenge Steve and I know why. Instead of
wanting to learn the real truth he'd rather ignore FACT and continue his
campaign of personal attack based on false information. Truth and fair
play is a completely alien concept to you and your fellows.
NEW CHALLENGE: I will offer $1000.00 to anyone who will step up and
substantiate what Yale F. Edeiken claimed in his post about my Hermann
Hospital discharge diagnosis numbered 50 04882 6 9356. I have a copy of it
and I know I am making a safe bet!
<END OF CHALLENGE>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
You're the one being delusional. I only respond to you because you are
giving me excellent proofs in making my case proving that you are alien to
FACTS and truth. You are also making a statement about your mental state
too! You show you have no self pride because you still try to avoid the
truth with your desperate denials in view of so many people! No one with
any self respect or self pride would keep denying the painfully obvious.
Seeing how you are possibly only the mouthpiece of Yale F. Edeiken then it
is possible he's projecting his denial of reality through you. Common
sense would say he would want less criminal indictments against him!
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh?
I told you the other day pig- in all due time. First I am trying to make
sure your fellow "greased pig" doesn't squirm and get away and then I will
go after the little sow!
Here is a reminder-
Remember this announcement swine?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=22&seld=911517027&ic=1
In due time piglet.
>I haven't heard from any DAs yet...
You will soon if I have my way. Don't think for a minute it is my
intention to let you off the "meat hook" you squealing little sow.
>perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
Me lying? Look how many you're caught in with just this one post!
LOOK!
Derek Bell <db...@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> writes:
> Furrfu!!!
I hear you. :-)
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Keep helping me along!
Doc Tavish
>Sara
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
(Yale now quotes what I posted):
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
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<stop>
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
<End of original posting restore to its status just before Sara replies
below. I wanted the text to have less of those ">" attributes in it. This
will be my presentation post in upcoming days. Doc Tavish>
Sara's comments below are answered at the top of this current post.
>Thank you so much for proving my point.
>
>Kepp it up, Mr. Delusional!
>
--
>And when are you going to "prosecute" me, eh? I haven't heard from any
>DAs yet... perhaps you were lying about THAT as well?
>
>Sara
---
"I, Sara Salzman, being duly sworn, state as follows: ... Daylin Leach
stated that she (Sara Salzman) should "stop bothering" Defendant
Bradbury." Edeiken v. Bradbury: Affidavit
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stop+bothering=&rnum=2&seld=925587292&ic=1
--digsig
Authentic Doc Tavish
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oy8LkaHW4Gkx+h6xhNP9nHWDZXcHJc2bfmHFR8YF
4HdtY6zRZfAMF1xJA70yDaWxbDLfJSHaXrIe9mR7u
LOOK!
Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury.C1
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
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Authentic Doc Tavish
<stop>
<END>
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Authentic Doc Tavish
Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn
Rio de Janeiro
> Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
Is this Latin?
Thanks
Shannon
McTavish Informational Services (Non-Profit)
--YFE
~~End of Archive~~
Post number two:
You already have.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>Up to 4 misspellings.
>6 words misspelled.
[...]
>8 misspellings
>9 misspelled words
>up to 10 misspellings.
I answer multi-part with:
<start>
<stop>
<end>
Doc Tavish
>Sara
---
"If you stop fabricating lies about me, I will stop disclosing the
truth about you." Adapted from UKRAINE ORGANIZATION'S Terms of Truce
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Authentic Doc Tavish
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