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Independent UK
April 27, 2006

United States of Israel?

When two of America's most distinguished academics dared to suggest that U.S. foreign
policy was being driven by a powerful 'Israel Lobby' whose influence was incompatible
with their nation's own interests, they knew they would face allegations of
anti-Semitism. But the episode has prompted America's Jewish liberals to confront
their own complacency. Might the tide be turning?

By Robert Fisk

Stephen Walt towers over me as we walk in the Harvard sunshine past Eliot Street, a
big man who needs to be big right now (he's one of two authors of an academic paper
on the influence of America's Jewish lobby) but whose fame, or notoriety, depending
on your point of view, is of no interest to him. "John and I have deliberately
avoided the television shows because we don't think we can discuss these important
issues in 10 minutes. It would become 'J' and 'S', the personalities who wrote about
the Lobby - and we want to open the way to serious discussion about this, to
encourage a broader discussion of the forces shaping U.S. foreign policy in the
Middle East".

"John" is John Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago.
Stephen Walt is a 50-year-old tenured professor at the John F. Kennedy School of
Government at Harvard. The two men have caused one of the most extraordinary
political storms over the Middle East in recent American history by stating what to
many non-Americans is obvious: that the U.S. has been willing to set aside its own
security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of Israel,
that Israel is a liability in the "war on terror", that the biggest Israeli lobby
group, AIPAC (the American Israel Public Affairs Committee), is in fact the agent of
a foreign government and has a stranglehold on Congress - so much so that U.S. policy
towards Israel is not debated there - and that the Lobby monitors and condemns
academics who are critical of Israel.

"Anyone who criticizes Israel's actions or argues that pro-Israel groups have
significant influence over U.S. Middle East policy", the authors have written,
"...stands a good chance of being labeled an anti-Semite. Indeed, anyone who merely
claims that there is an Israeli lobby runs the risk of being charged with
anti-Semitism ... Anti-Semitism is something no-one wants to be accused of". This is
strong stuff in a country where - to quote the late Edward Said - the "last taboo"
(now that anyone can talk about blacks, gays and lesbians) is any serious discussion
of America's relationship with Israel.

Stephen Walt is already the author of an elegantly written account of the resistance
to U.S. world political dominance, a work that includes more than 50 pages of
references. Indeed, those who have read his Taming Political Power: The Global
Response to U.S. Primacy will note that the Israeli lobby gets a thumping in this
earlier volume because AIPAC "has repeatedly targeted members of Congress whom it
deemed insufficiently friendly to Israel and helped drive them from office, often by
channeling money to their opponents".

But how many people in America are putting their own heads above the parapet, now
that Mearsheimer and Walt have launched a missile that would fall to the ground
unexploded in any other country but which is detonating here at high speed? Not a
lot.

For a while, the mainstream U.S. press and television - as pro-Israeli, biased and
gutless as the two academics infer them to be - did not know whether to report on
their conclusions (originally written for The Atlantic Monthly, whose editors
apparently took fright, and subsequently reprinted in the London Review of Books in
slightly truncated form) or to remain submissively silent.

The New York Times, for example, only got round to covering the affair in depth well
over two weeks after the report's publication, and then buried its article in the
education section on page 19. The academic essay, according to the paper's headline,
had created a "debate" about the Lobby's influence.

They can say that again. Dore Gold, a former ambassador to the UN, who now heads an
Israeli lobby group, kicked off by unwittingly proving that the Mearsheimer-Walt
theory of "anti-Semitism" abuse is correct. "I believe", he said, "that anti-Semitism
may be partly defined as asserting a Jewish conspiracy for doing the same thing
non-Jews engage in". Congressman Eliot Engel of New York said that the study itself
was "anti-Semitic" and deserved the American public's contempt.

Stephen Walt has no time for this argument. "We are not saying there is a conspiracy,
or a cabal. The Israeli lobby has every right to carry on its work - all Americans
like to lobby. What we are saying is that this lobby has a negative influence on U.S.
national interests and that this should be discussed. There are vexing problems out
in the Middle East and we need to be able to discuss them openly. The Hamas
government, for example - how do we deal with this? There may not be complete
solutions, but we have to try and have all the information available".

Stephen Walt doesn't exactly admit to being shocked by some of the responses to his
work - it's all part of his desire to keep "discourse" in the academic arena, I
suspect, though it probably won't work. But no-one could be anything but angered by
his Harvard colleague, [torture-loving Jew] Alan Dershowitz
(http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1842.htm), who announced that the
two scholars recycled accusations that "would be seized on by bigots to promote their
anti-Semitic agendas".

The two are preparing a reply to Dershowitz's 45-page attack, but could probably have
done without praise from the white supremacist and ex-Ku Klux Klan head David Duke -
adulation which allowed newspapers to lump the name of Duke with the names of
Mearsheimer and Walt. "Of Israel, Harvard and David Duke", ran the Washington Post's
reprehensible headline.

The Wall Street Journal, ever Israel's friend in the American press, took an even
weirder line on the case. "As Ex-Lobbyists of Pro-Israel Group Face Court, Article
Queries Sway on Mideast Policy" its headline proclaimed to astonished readers.
Neither Mearsheimer nor Walt had mentioned the trial of two AIPAC lobbyists - due to
begin next month - who are charged under the Espionage Act with receiving and
disseminating classified information provided by a former Pentagon Middle East
analyst. The defence team for Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman has indicated that it
may call Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and National Security Adviser Stephen
Hadley to the stand.

Almost a third of the Journal's report is taken up with the Rosen-Weissman trial,
adding that the indictment details how the two men "allegedly sought to promote a
hawkish U.S. policy toward Iran by trading favors with a number of senior U.S.
officials.

Lawrence (Larry) Franklin, the former Pentagon official, has pleaded guilty to
misusing classified information. Larry Franklin was charged with orally passing on
information about a draft National Security Council paper on Iran to the two
lobbyists... as well as other classified information. Franklin was sentenced in
December to nearly 13 years in prison..."

The Wall Street Journal report goes on to say that lawyers and "many Jewish
leaders" - who are not identified - "say the actions of the former AIPAC employees
were no different from how thousands of Washington lobbyists work. They say the
indictment marks the first time in U.S. history that American citizens... have been
charged with receiving and disseminating state secrets in conversations".

The paper goes on to say that "several members of Congress have expressed concern
about the case since it broke in 2004, fearing that the Justice Department may be
targeting pro-Israel lobbying groups, such as AIPAC. These officials (sic) say
they're eager to see the legal process run its course, but are concerned about the
lack of transparency in the case".

As far as Alan Dershowitz is concerned, it isn't hard for me to sympathize with the
terrible pair. He it was who shouted abuse at me during an Irish radio interview when
I said that we had to ask the question "Why?" after the 11 September 2001
international crimes against humanity. I was a "dangerous man", Dershowitz shouted
over the air, adding that to be "anti-American" - my thought-crime for asking the
"Why?" question - was the same as being anti-Semitic.

I must, however, also acknowledge another interest. Twelve years ago, one of the
Israeli lobby groups that Mearsheimer and Walt fingers prevented any second showing
of a film series on Muslims in which I participated for Channel 4 and the Discovery
Channel - by stating that my "claim" that Israel was building large Jewish
settlements on Arab land was "an egregious falsehood". I was, according to another
Israeli support group, "a Henry Higgins with fangs", who was "drooling venom into the
living rooms of America".

Such nonsense continues to this day. In Australia to launch my new book on the Middle
East, for instance, I repeatedly stated that Israel - contrary to the anti-Semitic
conspiracy theorists - was not responsible for the crimes of 11 September 2001. Yet
the Australian Jewish News claimed that I "stopped just millimeters short of
suggesting that Israel was the cause of the 9/11 attacks. The audience reportedly
(and predictably) showered him in accolades".

This was untrue. There was no applause and no accolades and I never stopped
"millimeters" short of accusing Israel of these crimes against humanity. The story in
the Australian Jewish News is a lie.

So I have to say that - from my own humble experience - Mearsheimer and Walt have a
point. And for a man who says he has not been to Israel for 20 years - or Egypt,
though he says he had a "great time" in both countries - Walt rightly doesn't claim
any on-the-ground expertise. "I've never flown into Afghanistan on a rickety plane,
or stood at a checkpoint and seen a bus coming and not known if there is a suicide
bomber aboard", he says.

Noam Chomsky, America's foremost moral philosopher and linguistics academic - so
critical of Israel that he does not even have a regular newspaper column - does
travel widely in the region and acknowledges the ruthlessness of the Israeli lobby.
But he suggests that American corporate business has more to do with U.S. policy in
the Middle East than Israel's supporters - proving, I suppose, that the Left in the
United States has an infinite capacity for fratricide.

Stephen Walt doesn't say he's on the left, but he and Mearsheimer objected to the
invasion of Iraq, a once lonely stand that now appears to be as politically
acceptable as they hope - rather forlornly - that discussion of the Israeli lobby
will become.

Stephen Walt sits in a Malaysian restaurant with me, patiently (though I can hear the
irritation in his voice) explaining that the conspiracy theories about him are
nonsense. His stepping down as dean of the Kennedy School was a decision taken before
the publication of his report, he says. No one is throwing him out. The
much-publicized Harvard disclaimer of ownership to the essay - far from being a
gesture of fear and criticism by the university as his would-be supporters have
claimed - was mainly drafted by Walt himself, since Mearsheimer, a friend as well as
colleague, was a Chicago scholar, not a Harvard don.

But something surely has to give.

Across the United States, there is growing evidence that the Israeli and
neo-conservative lobbies are acquiring ever greater power. The cancellation by a New
York theatre company of "My Name is Rachel Corrie" - a play based on the writings of
the young American girl (http://www.rachelcorrie.org) crushed to death by an Israeli
bulldozer in Gaza in 2003 - has deeply shocked liberal Jewish Americans, not least
because it was Jewish American complaints that got the performance pulled.

"How can the West condemn the Islamic world for not accepting Mohamed cartoons",
Philip Weiss asked in The Nation, "when a Western writer who speaks out on behalf of
Palestinians is silenced? And why is it that Europe and Israel itself have a
healthier debate over Palestinian human rights than we can have here?" Corrie died
trying to prevent the destruction of a Palestinian home. Enemies of the play falsely
claim that she was trying to stop the Israelis from collapsing a tunnel used to
smuggle weapons. Hateful emails were written about Corrie. Weiss quotes one that
reads: "Rachel Corrie won't get 72 virgins but she got what she wanted".

Saree Makdisi - a close relative of the late Edward Said - has revealed how a
right-wing website is offering cash for University of California at Los Angeles
(UCLA) students who report on the political leanings of their professors, especially
their views on the Middle East. Those in need of dirty money at UCLA should be aware
that class notes, handouts and illicit recordings of lectures will now receive a
bounty of $100. "I earned my own inaccurate and defamatory 'profile' ", Saree Makdisi
says, "...not for what I have said in my classes on English poets such as Wordsworth
and Blake - my academic speciality, which the website avoids mentioning - but rather
for what I have written in newspapers about Middle Eastern politics".

Mearsheimer and Walt include a study of such tactics in their report. "In September
2002", they write, "Martin Kramer and Daniel Pipes, two passionately pro-Israel
neo-conservatives, established a website (campus-watch.org) that posted dossiers on
suspect academics and encouraged students to report behavior that might be considered
hostile to Israel... the website still invites students to report 'anti-Israel'
activity".

Perhaps the most incendiary paragraph in the essay - albeit one whose contents have
been confirmed in the Israeli press - discusses Israel's pressure on the United
States to invade Iraq. "Israeli intelligence officials had given Washington a variety
of alarming reports about Iraq's WMD programs", the two academics write, quoting a
retired Israeli general as saying:

"Israeli intelligence was a full partner to the picture presented by American
and British intelligence regarding Iraq's non-conventional capabilities".

Stephen Walt says he might take a year's sabbatical - though he doesn't want to get
typecast as a "Lobby" critic - because he needs a rest after his recent
administrative post. There will be Israeli lobbyists, no doubt, who would he happy if
he made that sabbatical a permanent one. I somehow doubt he will.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article360492.ece


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http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0b436d3334d47ca9

Israeli spy rejects plea deal
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/97ccfbaddb7bfbc9

The State Department's extreme makeover
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c49481cb0ad82dd7

Neocons Blast Bush's Inaction On 'Spy' Affair
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/66c094aea035ebb0

Larry Franklin fires lawyer
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/41cbd48d495e9ada

Israel punished CBS by giving it false documents on Bush
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/deb03f6b8c1b757a

Israeli 'Mordechai Vanunu': End Israeli nukes first
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d6bb72e81c271bd1

Poll: Jews are spies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/6e5c760794906c19

Israel's beloved MEK terrorist 'Alireza Jafarzadeh'
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/dcda82bb62db433a

Jews: Everyone telling truth is an Anti-Semite
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/96124f77ea592c60

Be scared of Jew godfather Norman Podhoretz, not Osama
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a6bda38e4a9140dc

AIPAC spy affair concerns Iran more than Israel
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2554b7fa4e351681

AIPAC spy case involves intelligence on Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/7561b44ac54c74e8

Israeli military attache met with Larry Franklin
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3454d526137a305a

Pentagon: Jews own America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3120d8151cd5a368

How AIPAC controls America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e4a024c8afde7761

Inside the Israel espionage investigation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/741880df63a475d3

Jew spin on Israeli spy affair
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0f192576d6fc1c0f

Ugly picture: SISMI, Mossad, CIA, MI6
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/948249a9d349a557

U.S. is just a province of Israel
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a977aee0625a0c27

Headquarter of Zionist-Azaris
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/7c0d09570b3db598

I can just hear the Presidential conversation. "Did I say Iraq backed al-Qaeda?" he
asks with a boyish grin. "Oh, heck, I meant Iran. I always get those two mixed up".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/af556b3d179dce63

Axis Of Spies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3103b787cf2776bb

Poor Jew-lover 'Larry Franklin'
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9cda15866350834a

Nest of Spies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a7b75a6373579dc3

Steven Rosen, Keith Weissman - AIPAC terrorists
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/dceea4f86f10ba21

Behind the Israeli mole affair
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c2732ff27082c23c

Larry Franklin hates Iran passionately
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/dee5ee0251596b4a

Report on Iran Key to spying inquiry
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9cfc3f608ab89480

Jews spy on Jews on Iran, interesting!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/ad309bd67eaee0ad

Mossad agent & fabricator
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/725fe51e0622dd38

'Michael Ledeen' is a dangerous animal
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a2787c6cc58a1255

Jews: antagonize Iran so they get frustrated
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/6ace909d2455efeb

Who is the head of Azari-Skinheads?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2eabab1a44d66a76

A chat with the leader of azari-skinheads
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/209847dd5106b91e

Jew "Brenda Shaffer" leader of Zionist-azaris
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/8118481c689e3b17

Things are getting ugly for dirty Jews & Azari-Skinheads
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/beb62a7027360cfc

Headquarter of Azari-Skinheads target of spy probe
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/7c0d09570b3db598

Leader of Azari-Skinheads exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/91cbf23a753966c0

CIA & Mosad planners give support to Azari-Skinheads
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c8d6e023b8131c18

After setting-up Azari-Skinheads, Brenda Shaffer is now working on Nukes
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/9ff5968c586ab548

Know thy enemy
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/fa5337ab80d46979

What are Iran's domestic priorities?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d51856c6861897b0

Lawmakers met with Iranian exile scrutinized over intelligence
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d9bd00a0920b05bf

US-UK & Paki Islamic terror networks
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/b2b8c392d0ba345d

The American hand in Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/658f0dc1ee0e6ca6

AIPAC can place you by the elbow of the President
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/72bed98236d4a4b1

Who's Behind the Coming War With Iran?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/f4ba4adbeeacf972

Jew lobbyists charged with classified leaks
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/f0459ee06d09c030

Israelis bragged about Pentagon spy Larry Franklin
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c26251e6e9ea8487

Israeli spy ring update - Israeli art students & movers story
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/04066a14eb8ba1d9

The Plame/AIPAC-gate Connection
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/1f56a3e0bcf41b75

Neocon History: How Jews took over America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/8577f89e1d225111

Iran Policy Committee: Pentagon Mouthpiece, Israeli Ally, MEK Supporter
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/97c8cbcf1dea31ec

Jew agent Mohammad Parvin
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e991ff4cd34e10c4

ZioNazis really love & care for Iranians!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4435aed741ab5bbc

Resistance in the Middle East is Not a “Discontinuous Event”
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/cc09b92c91832e98

Michael Rubin - Learn about Jews who care about Iran!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d449965360da1f42

Info on Michael Rubin
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bf71dd4df1b4694e

Lebanese Maronite shit "Michael Maloof" & Moonies try to connect Al-Qaida (CIA) to
Shias
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/69943c4d47321c3e

JEW 'Kenneth Pollack', author of "Persian Puzzle", is part of JEWPAC espionage
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2e5d8e9ecb097405

U.S. Expands Aid to Iran's Democracy Advocates Abroad
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4e18974eb616face

Planners of strategy to use Zionist-Azaris to destabilize Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/910d054d54919318

Network of Middle East "experts"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0c5bdbd69470096a

Jews plot against Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/78f0b1ef3f34d906

NPR is another Jew-FOX
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/35ee68371040cbb5

The emergence of a new Axis: Los Angeles-Tel Aviv-Tehran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/eb9a65a1c9a973f7

New Front Sets Sights On Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/603696d3c99d0219

The coalition of Iran-haters
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/93a5a9f3c615118b

JINSA - How JEW occupied America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2fab08bcc3d07f86

Guilty plea planned in secrets case
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a2deb00b2bef79ad

Larry Franklin guilty in Israeli espionage case
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/ac5aecd8041997af

Israeli-Arab "Psychological Operation"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/12c70fc875d4be34

Israelis urge U.S. to stop Iran's nuke goals
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2a78206b45d2cd5d

Mother of all scandals - With friends like this...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/60273e3841b24fa5

AIPAC, AEI are trying to whip up an anti-Iran frenzy
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a44a185017d7a9a1

White House manipulation of the media
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e9da14f43b85eeba

The Exorcism of the New York Times
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4bb62103d6c6f358

Grand Strategy For the Middle East
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bec2fec22e9ebf7a

The report they forgot: Feith, Rhode, Franklin, Ghorbanifar & SISMI
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3bf51ba5c456a651

Larry Franklin/AIPAC/Lewis Libby/Judith Miller/Valerie Plame Wilson
http://www.franklingate.com

Plame affair/PlameGate/CIA leak scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair

White House Staff "Starting Lineup" Biographies
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/buildbio.html

Clumsy forgeries, Italian style
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4a805cdf34b2b015

Historic opportunity
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a13e9901a9e9b597

Indictment gives glimpse into Israeli operation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3b21cac1f464b907

Indictments put focus on JewCons
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/b8bb0fa7742cf0d1

Fallout from PlameGate runs deep
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/1bf18fcce356b6eb

The first Jacobin falls
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a057d899e75f0279

JEW Irv Lewis 'Scooter' Libby indicted
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/66853cb8c2a9e981

Very dark days for the White House: Andrew Card, WH Chief of Staff
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/071dcac6f8530582

Aide to Cheney appears likely to be indicted; Rove under scrutiny
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/fb1de4ed7251e42b

Cover-Up Issue Is Seen as Focus in Leak Inquiry
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/f8a438a900ef766e

Michael "P2" Ledeen’s fingers in the yellowcake forgery
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0a8e9166c36eb579

Michael "P2" Ledeen; faster, please!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d8d134f253c6702d

Fixing and forging intelligence
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4c6663c968fd5f6c

Fitzgerald has decided to seek indictments, those near inquiry say
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2b64050fa07440ea

A CIA cover blown, a White House exposed - How JEW screws America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/433a0266bf2c99d0

Larry Franklin, Karl Rove, a whole lot of JEWS, & the Espionage Act
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/daf24178eb29563f

The Politics of 'Creative Destruction'
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/40d87f1189d15dcd

White House JEW cabal: Colonel Wilkerson
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/dd9285a9efc88835

White House cabal - dumb, but smart Feith
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/354075c6e822593b

New York Times LIES exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/5abb8776ce90451e

Is the New York Times an Israeli spy nest?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/f3a8bb8928b50b97

Exorcism of the New York Times
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4bb62103d6c6f358

White House manipulation of the media
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e9da14f43b85eeba

Stifling neo-crazy media sycophants
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/8790e709a9a122b4

Grand Strategy For the Middle East
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bec2fec22e9ebf7a

Turkish-Israeli espionage in America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d6c6099bc646741b

Turkey, Israel and the U.S. (The Axis of Satan)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4315a88c84ef1278

JEW exposed - Let justice be done
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7743

Living in fascist states of America
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/85d98a73d14b359b

Poetic justice - White House "spin" spins out of control
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e9a5be43e43bcc2f

Larry Franklin-Plame connection
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/cbc77a30a4b0072f

Gaffney’s gripe
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/57532e69ef10fb8c

JEW: we didn't Know Larry Franklin was spying for us!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bf821b9b3c785f6f

AIPAC, AEI are trying to whip up an anti-Iran frenzy
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a44a185017d7a9a1

JEW-gate - a criminal conspiracy
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7490

GLADIO revealed: SISMI-CIA-MI6-Mossad and fake nuke documents
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c482c86bb25b8e9c

The IAEA, New York Times and the New World Order
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/39dfff306dfba6cf

The New York Times, Nuclear Weapons and Iran: Stupidity, Laziness or Déjà vu All Over
Again?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/f2718b3d938eaed2

The Exorcism of the New York Times
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4bb62103d6c6f358

Cataloging the wretched reporting of Judith Miller
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d7ba3e0a9c3a0c64

Grand Strategy For the Middle East
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bec2fec22e9ebf7a

Cracks in the JEW fortress? Judith Miller, Lewis Libby, John Bolton, & AIPAC
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/c15c2b39abf7529f

Beneath spy 'outing' lies story of many JEW lies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2ea0ee4fcfc89f5b

Judy Miller the neocon and $1.2 million book deal
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/eb657b913add5b6b

Judy Miller and the AIPAC spy case
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/04722ec8d2dce7b2

Lies of Judith Miller of Jew York Tiems
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/d7ba3e0a9c3a0c64

Disgraced neo-crazy media sycophant Judith Miller
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/009482f7d2fcd131

Getting rid of Jayson Blair and Judith Miller was a good beginning, but the NYT still
has "reporters" publishing as "facts" neo-crazy (and eco-wacko) propaganda.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a8c72c78d5b0182d

Judith Miller is no longer spreading neo-crazy lies and misleading statements on the
front page of the New York Times. However, David E. Sanger is still on the job.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/6f573bd90d5e1ee1

As always, the New York Times has spearheaded the propaganda war with an article by
Jew Richard Bernstein and Jew Steven Weisman which lays out the sketchy case against
Iran.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/533df1a6e9c70757

A Dear Judy letter from Scooter Libby--with Admiration
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/86107957029306c3

How the CIA paid for Jew Miller's stories
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3cce00b07f899fee

White House manipulation of the media
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e9da14f43b85eeba

Fixing and forging intelligence
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/4c6663c968fd5f6c

The first Jacobin falls
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a057d899e75f0279

Nocon's zealotry is blowing up in their faces
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/802d8922e9609257

Indictment gives glimpse into Israeli operation
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/3b21cac1f464b907

Israel and the neocons: The Lewis Libby affair
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/db8281ff44bd388e

White House cabal - dumb, but smart Feith
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/354075c6e822593b

JEW Michael "P2" Ledeen linked to forged uranium documents
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0a3aed650f66d629

GLADIO at work: Michael "P2" Ledeen, Silvio "P2" Berlusconi, Nicolo "P2" Pollari,
SISMI, & Stephen Hadley linked to uranium lies
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/04709af68e51b02e

Michael "P2" Ledeen exposed; yet he's not arrested! "American Justice"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/db7fad39c1c29cf0

New York Times censorship: Why Dr. Khodr's letter is not published?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e278ec3a05a77e83

Western nation's use of "torture" is now called "abuse"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/7bbaa3eb12fca947

JEW spies consider suing the AIPAC
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/fd1603eaf91c78ab

AIPAC statement on the U.S. administration's policy on Iran
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0c5663f63d76e5c0

Meet John Rendon, Bush's general in the propaganda war
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/111b222eb6a82d3e

How To Sell a War; ask John Rendon
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/04fb9da4e49937f6

A JEW conspiracy so vast…the Plame plot thickens
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/e0790a3ef011067c

The Simon Wiesenthal Center: A Bastion of JEW propaganda
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/6d9f7ea3b19c28fa

How to sell War to the masses
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bd3077c988854883

Saddam apologist turned anti-Saddam
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/2e7a780269016f19

Double Talk & Biological Warfare
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/96e539085f95a552

Jewish propaganda agent: Benador Associates
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/bedf5c550a880efc

Scholarship or Sophistry?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/a115d9c0e44bfdf1

Network of Middle East "experts"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.iranian/msg/0c5bdbd69470096a


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