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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
prodigal Jimmy Alpha simply because we really love him as our LORD
commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
>> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>
>Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
>I hope this helps charlie!
>
>di·et1 (dº“¹t)
>
>*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71a9e3358e6c60d4?

Eating the right daily amount (32 oz) involves as much regulating
(i.e. rules) as eating nothing (0 oz), which is fasting.

Just as fasting is not a diet, it logically follows from your cited
definition that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet either.

Moreover, if the 2PD-OMER Approach were a diet, it would not be
possible to combine it with a regular diet as this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) advocates.

Bottom line:

The LORD's http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER (Exodus 16:16) Approach is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet else the 12 tribes of Israel would not have
been able to physically endure their 40 years in the desert.

Truth is simple :-)

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:

"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.

Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?

I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?

For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.

Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?

"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."

Source:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed

Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.

It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's 2PD-
OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...

... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read your post:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?

>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?

Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...

Null hypothesis:

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.

Prediction based on the null hypothesis:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.

Actual observation:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.

Conclusion:

Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?

We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote in part:
>> A sockpuppet wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Chung, do you sin?
>>
>> The absolutely right and true answer is that Dr. Chung is wonderfully
>> hungry right now (Luke 6:21A).
>
> That's not an answer to the question ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e9dd6c6b2febace5?

It remains the perfect answer based on the following Scripture:

"See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the
blessing if you obey the commands of the LORD your GOD that I am
giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the LORD
your GOD and turn from the way that I command you today by following
other gods, which you have not known." (Deuteronomy 11:26-28)

Amen.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW; for you will be satisfied." (Luke
6:21A)

Amen.

This cardiologist is satisfied in knowing from being wonderfully
hungry right now and from what is written at Deuteronomy 11:26-28
together with Luke 6:21A that his being blessed by GOD right
now(Lk6:21A) means that he has been obedient to the LORD's commands
(i.e. not sinning) because otherwise there would have been only a
curse(Dt11:28) and no blessing(Dt11:27) from Him.

Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?

Yes, you know you have been lying:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?

Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

(1) Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
(2) Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
(3) Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
(4) Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
(5) Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Jimmy_Alpha

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Sightwalker with a phd, I was really shocked when when I reached down
and washed my private and felt my balls and was one about the size of a
baseball. I came out of the shower and headed off to the VA for a real
exam about 9 pm. About a week later after taking Ciprofloxacin HCL 500mg
tab’s I was back with what I feel are about as pretty a set of marbles
as one can hope to see. ;-)

Jimmy "living better through chemistry" Alpha

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> ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3& 5) friends to also pray for

Calista Flockheart

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:23ba5127-d74f-47de...@n11g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
prodigal Jimmy Alpha simply because we really love him as our LORD
commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

---

Incorrect.

Jimmy_Alpha

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Calista, what do you mean by "incorrect"? What do I have to do to win
you over from the dark side, send you the ultrasound of my epididymi?
Jimmy "sweet marbles" Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Great Sage Itchy

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ARROGANT LADY-BOY CREEP

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
GSI's perishing soul simply because we really love him as our LORD

commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

GSI wrote:
> Insane and arrogant are BOTH mental problems.

Incorrect. Your arrogance is a spiritual problem related to pride and
not related to your insanity.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ac3916b7994840d?

GSI earlier wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > ... after remembering during the day the soldiers who gave their lives
> > for the benefit of others, we should now remember the One Who put down
> > His life to save us and then on the 3rd day took up His life to teach
> > us how to love others (John 15:12) as He has loved us (John 15:13) so
> > that we can volunteer like the soldiers whom we have remembered
> > earlier on this day.
>
> "volunteer like the soldiers..." by being INSANE ARROGANT spamming
> assholes.

Those who are unsound mind (i.e. insane) should not be also
categorized as arrogant because the focus should remain on the mental
problem instead of observer opinion. Moreover, those who are arrogant
can't perform the selfless act of volunteering. Truth is simply
reality.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74e5d2aed66ea66b?

GSI earlier wrote:
>
> Most, if not all of the so-called "saved" "Christians" in these groups
> are INSANE.
>
> I don't mean "insane" in an "internet/Usenet" way, I mean they are
> clinically INSANE.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/92c3570839dc834c?

You are suffering from the delusions that you are a physician and that
you are thereby qualified to diagnose clinical insanity in others.
This does allow those of us who are real physicians to diagnose that
you are the one who is clinically insane. You should inform your
doctor(s) about your break from reality. If you are already taking
psychotropic medication(s), it is likely your doctor(s) will either
change or adjust them to help you recover from your mental breakdown.

GSI wrote:
>
> ARROGANT <profane name-calling snipped>

Being right in GOD's eyes with all glory to Him is from http://WDJW.net/Humility
which is not arrogance.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f211948ed5a2eb5d?

> And who is deciding that what you are doing is right in God's eyes?

Whenever there is profane name-calling that includes the adjective
"arrogant," GOD has allowed us to know that the targeted person is
right in His eyes. Name-calling by anyone who is not GOD is
automatically lying by the definition of name-calling. This is simply
because only GOD can re-create by just speaking as the Creator and
because GOD is also the truth (John 14:6), the target of the lying is
in Him, Who is always right.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/becfcf6773f931df?

GSI wrote:
>
> "May GOD annihilate ...

... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
is starvation" here on usenet for these are not either neighbors or
enemies but rather are sockpuppets of satan already slated for
destruction (Revelation 20:10).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ce32afef01afd70?

GSI wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > GSI wrote:
> > >
> > > Chung is INSANE.
> >
> > Lie.
> >
> > Wouldn't have an active medical license as all can verify on-line if
> > your lie were true
>
> It needs to be taken away from you.

Lie.

Medical licenses have no need.

> You are an embarrasment to the medical profession.

Lie.

No real physician would claim to be embarrassed by another who is
helping folks stop overeating:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc

> YOU ARE INSANE.

Lie.

Again, wouldn't have an active medical license as all can verify on-
line if your lie were true

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fa199f5c6ecc02b7?

Your pathological lying is consistent with your being insane:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1bad08b050d1f90c?

GSI wrote:
> He is a totally arrogant person.

Lie.

Just as there is no such thing as an incompletely arrogant person,
there is no such thing as a totally arrogant one.

> A Supreme EGOIST.

Lie.

No such thing.

Instead, folks like this physician have what is called a super-ego,
which is our conscience, that keeps us from lying compulsively like
you.

Bottom line: You are a pathological liar.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/17ba5acc5a03e6f9?

GSI wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_YK8KBZk0
> >
> > Dear GSI, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
> The name is "Your Holiness Great Sage Itchy" or "Mr. Itchy Sir", to you
> Chung.
>
> And as to your question, "can you publicly say Jesus is LORD", I will
> answer just as I have many times, by saying that everyone is LORD.
> Everyone has the same origin. All created things have the same origin.
> That origin we call "God". We are ALL God transformed into people.

Saying "everyone is LORD" is not the same as saying "Jesus is LORD"
for it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the
Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ea71ebf6297d5820?

GSI wrote:
> Robert Miles wrote:
> >
> > I suppose you know what profanity is - the way feeble minds try to
> > express themselves.
>
> "I suppose you know what profanity is...": I'm not sure, asshole. My
> mind is too feeble. Help me out, would you?

Only GOD can save you. You need to be born again (John 3:3&5).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/feddb47a23e5bcc9?

GSI citing what retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner
wrote in part as a retiree and cardiac patient back in 2001:
>
> "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it".

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:

Primum non nocere

GSI furiously wrote:

<irrationally angry remarks with profanity snipped>

Bottom line concerning you, GSI:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a2f7ee7e467a65fc?

This has been affirmed by another:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff30e76c4d3262f4?

... and by yet another:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e8b43791cd65c82?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prays for you as outlined
per the amazing Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation
earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, GSI, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...
http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...
http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Great Sage Itchy

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Sick arrogant creep

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jimmy_Alpha

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Sightwalker, AKA the liar with a phd said:
> ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3& 5) friends to also pray for

> prodigal Jimmy Alpha simply because we really love him as our LORD
> commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Prodigal? Poor me, even with my Jew nose I pass for a Scot.

> Jimmy Alpha wrote:

(QUOIT)
Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.

> (WWJD) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)

Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?

> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...

Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.

Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35

Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.

Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
(END OF QUOIT)

Jimmy "cheap Scot" Alpha
http://www.rimband.com/Images/Scot%20for%20Jacket%20copy.gif

Calista Flockheart

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Be my guest.

Brian Gene Kelley

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Andrew B. Chung wrote:

> Evidence that Ace* is born again (Jn3:3&5) until Ace* deleted his
> YouTube account

Lie. This is my YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bkfjinlv?feature=mhee

> out of fear of persecution by his unredeemed
> friends&family who cannot say "Jesus is LORD"
> with their mouth

Lie. These are my friends&family saying "Jesus is LORD"
with their mouth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc0_DylzOqw&feature=related

The fact that Mr. Chung can't provide a similar video (even though he
has lots of videos of himself posted to YouTube) proves he has no
real life redeemed friends&family. How sad for him, apparently none of
the redeemed want to be associated with Mr. Chung the reprobate
counterfeit Christian in real life :-P

Whereas I can easily prove that I have lots of real life redeemed
friends&family, completely contrary to Mr. Chung's blatant lies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDgRZp2NHg4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUd_cGafXcE

And what did my very close friend Bill call me? "Brian"? Yes, he
called me "Brian" not "Ace".

Here's me being called "Brian" again on a live radio show, by my
friend (have had dinner with etc) Steve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UKDV4YkOws

Wait until I discuss dynamics of saying "Jesus is Lord" and exactly
what Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 12:3, live on the air (and
archived) with him this week :-)

> and encouraging born-again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
> Ace's

Delusional Mr. Chung praying for a pseudonym instead of praying for a
real person.

... Proving Mr. Chung a liar, delusional and a counterfeit Christian
one video at a time :-)

Message has been deleted

Wherez da evidence?

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On Jun 7, 9:57 am, seeker <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/6/2011 10:06 PM, Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
>
> > Sightwalker with a phd, I was really shocked when when I reached down
> > and washed my private and felt my balls and was one about the size of a
> > baseball.
>
>     Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to [...]

How did you forge the e-mail? The forgers are getting more and more
sophisticated.

Jimmy_Alpha

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Jun 7, 2011, 1:29:13 PM6/7/11
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On 6/7/2011 12:57 PM, seeker wrote:
> On 6/6/2011 10:06 PM, Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
>> Sightwalker with a phd, I was really shocked when when I reached down
>> and washed my private and felt my balls and was one about the size of a
>> baseball.
>
> Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to playing with yourself
> again! And what happened to you and the blowup doll with the artificial
> vagina ? Did it throw you over for another pervert?

Rodney, nice seeing you again. I'm fine, and no the doll is just fine
too, thanks for asking.
Jimmy "sweet marbles" Alpha

Jimmy_Alpha

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That's Rod Eastman, computer pro.
Jimmy "http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Aislinn_/kiltguy.jpg" Alpha

Wherez da evidence?

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Ah, Rod and I go way back. Rod is such a good Christian man. That
explains who but when I check my spam filter I'm not seeing any e-mail
from Eternal September about a new account. I should do that more
often though. Some of those spams are really funny.

Rod

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On 6/7/2011 1:29 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 7, 10:33 am, Jimmy_Alpha<jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/7/2011 1:12 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 9:57 am, seeker<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/2011 10:06 PM, Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
>>
>>>>> Sightwalker with a phd, I was really shocked when when I reached down
>>>>> and washed my private and felt my balls and was one about the size of a
>>>>> baseball.
>>
>>>> Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to [...]
>>
>>> How did you forge the e-mail?

It isn't a matter of forging, it's a matter of making the sotware do
things that it isn't designed to do, and to do that you actually have to
learn to write code, and in the case of my browser, it's Java.

The forgers are getting more and more
>>> sophisticated.
>>
>> That's Rod Eastman, computer pro.
>> Jimmy "http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Aislinn_/kiltguy.jpg" Alpha
>
> Ah, Rod and I go way back.


How long have you been here seeker ? Were you around when Steve
Boursey and John Gruber were about ?


Rod is such a good Christian man.

What a lie !

That
> explains who but when I check my spam filter I'm not seeing any e-mail
> from Eternal September about a new account.

And you won't.

Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 3:11:43 PM6/7/11
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He he he...nobody likes a smart ass jimmy..

> Jimmy "sweet marbles" Alpha

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 7, 2011, 3:39:35 PM6/7/11
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Yes Rodney, so why did you address a post to me as seeker?
Jimmy "hydrocele has been" Alpha


Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 7, 2011, 4:26:53 PM6/7/11
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On Jun 7, 12:06 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> >>> How did you forge the e-mail?
>
>     It isn't a matter of forging, it's a matter of making the sotware do
> things that it isn't designed to do, and to do that you actually have to
> learn to write code, and in the case of my browser, it's Java.

So you have hacked my e-mail then? Someone either pretends to have my
e-mail or they actually do. Why would you do such a thing Rod? If
you have a beef with me I do wish you would just come out and say it.

>   The forgers are getting more and more
>
> >>> sophisticated.
>
> >> That's Rod Eastman, computer pro.
> >> Jimmy "http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Aislinn_/kiltguy.jpg" Alpha
>
> > Ah, Rod and I go way back.
>
>    How long have you been here seeker ?

I joined usenet in the late 90's. But I wasn't in ACC back then. By
"way back" I meant just a few years.

> Were you around when Steve
> Boursey and John Gruber were about ?

Don't know those names.

>    Rod is such a good Christian man.
>
>    What a lie !

Well it was sarcasm. Twasn't meant to be taken seriously. Guess I
should have put a smile on it. Sorry. I wish there was a universally
recognized sarcasm emote.


Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 4:31:56 PM6/7/11
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Pure orneriness, oh Jimmy of the hydrocele nut....

Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 4:44:57 PM6/7/11
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On 6/7/2011 3:26 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 7, 12:06 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>>>> How did you forge the e-mail?
>>
>> It isn't a matter of forging, it's a matter of making the sotware do
>> things that it isn't designed to do, and to do that you actually have to
>> learn to write code, and in the case of my browser, it's Java.
>
> So you have hacked my e-mail then?

No. Tbird has a built in source code window that displays
the email addy in that source code. Your newsreader uses the G2/1.0
interface with the google server. The google server broadcasts your
email address and ip address with each post. I simply read them both
from the source code contained within the headers.

Someone either pretends to have my
> e-mail or they actually do. Why would you do such a thing Rod?

I didn't. Read the explanation above, then go to google and examine
your posts in their archives. All the needed information about you
is contained within your headers. I seldom use google for this very
reason. I'll go one better ! At the end of this post I will attach
the source code from your header and you can read it yourself.

If
> you have a beef with me I do wish you would just come out and say it.

I don't have a beef with you. here is the source code to your post
below, excluding the message text...
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From: "Wherez da evidence?" <hso...@hotmail.com>
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>
>> The forgers are getting more and more
>>
>>>>> sophisticated.
>>
>>>> That's Rod Eastman, computer pro.
>>>> Jimmy "http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/Aislinn_/kiltguy.jpg" Alpha
>>
>>> Ah, Rod and I go way back.
>>
>> How long have you been here seeker ?
>
> I joined usenet in the late 90's. But I wasn't in ACC back then. By
> "way back" I meant just a few years.
>
>> Were you around when Steve
>> Boursey and John Gruber were about ?
>
> Don't know those names.
>
>> Rod is such a good Christian man.
>>
>> What a lie !
>
> Well it was sarcasm. Twasn't meant to be taken seriously. Guess I
> should have put a smile on it. Sorry. I wish there was a universally
> recognized sarcasm emote.
>
>

I hope you never have to live that one down..

Brian Gene Kelley

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Jun 7, 2011, 4:54:43 PM6/7/11
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On Jun 7, 9:57 am, seeker <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/6/2011 10:06 PM, Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
>
> > Sightwalker with a phd, I was really shocked when when I reached down
> > and washed my private and felt my balls and was one about the size of a
> > baseball.
>
>     Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to playing with yourself
>     again! And what happened to you and the blowup doll with the
> artificial vagina ? Did it throw you over for another pervert?

I'm both shocked and confused. Confused because both of mine have been
the size of softballs ever since I was 13.

Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 4:56:31 PM6/7/11
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ROFL!

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 7, 2011, 5:18:10 PM6/7/11
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Wonderful, and so you know my nut grew to the size of a baseball I'm
thinking overnight, I was really worried and at the VA the doctor didn't
say much other than wow. When I got home, and knowing I was to have an
ultrasound in a few days I posted about it here, like a fool I was
thinking the *Christian* healer might shed light on my worrys! He just
took it as a big joke...

After the ultrasound I went and saw my heel elevation doctor, had a very
pleasant finger wave and she said either a bladder infection had gone
from South, or it the other way around and not to worry as she had seen
jewels much bigger, and to keep taking the meds!

Now every time I post about anything the chinc md with a phd cross posts
my agony for his amusement to about 7 groups! It really shows what a
hypocritical arse he really is. Whenever I now think of my fingerwave I
wonder if charlie might get a little excited when he's giving them? :-)
Jimmy "with the wave smile" Alpha

Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 6:49:47 PM6/7/11
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I am glad that you got it fixed. My nephew had the same problem
and ended up losing it. He can't seem to get the lunatic idea out of
his mind that all the male sperm were stored in the nut he lost, so
his wife can only have girls.

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 7, 2011, 7:37:53 PM6/7/11
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On Jun 7, 1:44 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/2011 3:26 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>
> > On Jun 7, 12:06 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > [...]
> >>>>> How did you forge the e-mail?
>
> >>      It isn't a matter of forging, it's a matter of making the sotware do
> >> things that it isn't designed to do, and to do that you actually have to
> >> learn to write code, and in the case of my browser, it's Java.
>
> > So you have hacked my e-mail then?
>
>    No. Tbird has a built in source code window that displays
>    the email addy in that source code. Your newsreader uses the G2/1.0
> interface with the google server. The google server broadcasts your
> email address and ip address with each post. I simply read them both
> from the source code contained within the headers.
>
>   Someone either pretends to have my
>
> > e-mail or they actually do.  Why would you do such a thing Rod?
>
>     I didn't. Read the explanation above, then go to google and examine
>    your posts in their archives. All the needed information about you
>    is contained within your headers. I seldom use google for this very
>    reason. I'll go one better ! At the end of this post I will attach
>    the source code from your header and you can read it yourself.
[...]

So you are the one who made the code do what it wasn't designed to do
or did someone else make the code do what it wasn't designed to do?

Matt

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Jun 7, 2011, 7:58:31 PM6/7/11
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You guys talking about Windows? :-)))


Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 9:43:55 PM6/7/11
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No, Mozilla Thunderbird and the java language

Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 9:49:37 PM6/7/11
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I didn't have to. Everything I showed you in the post about viewing
source code comes stock with mozilla thunderbird. Mozilla released the
source code for the newest version of Tbird several months ago, and I
downloaded the source and test compiled it using the Ganymede Eclipse
IDE for the Java language.

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 7, 2011, 10:07:59 PM6/7/11
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Rodney, you have a fair start, but you must to go deeper into bowels of
the post to hide who you are, or you'll need worry you'll get your dick
smashed in the system.
Jimmy "who knows some of the system" Alpha


Rod

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Jun 7, 2011, 10:29:07 PM6/7/11
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Thank you Jimmy! I do want to keep my bodily parts intact.

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 7, 2011, 11:05:13 PM6/7/11
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I didn't ask if you had to. I'm a strait shooter so I gave you a
strait question. You didn't like the word I used. Okay. Maybe
forged documents aren't actually forged they are just "filled out in a
way they were never designed to be filled out". Third time:

Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?

At least google allows the real owner of an e-mail to nuke fake posts
that use that e-mail. Maybe they still exist in other archives but oh
well.

> Everything I showed you in the post about viewing
> source code comes stock with mozilla thunderbird. Mozilla released the
> source code for the newest version of Tbird several months ago, and I
> downloaded the source and test compiled it using the Ganymede Eclipse
> IDE for the Java language.

This reminds me of Senator John Kerry who gives long rambling answers
that seem to be "yes" and "no" and "maybe" all at the same time and it
just keeps going until eventually the audience forgets the question
altogether.

Matt

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Jun 7, 2011, 11:52:03 PM6/7/11
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I have Thunderbird never used it though. Java and PHP both give me a
major headache.

Looks like i need to reinstall XP on this machine. Not happy with
Microsoft at the moment.

Matt

Happy Oyster <>

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Jun 8, 2011, 5:28:51 AM6/8/11
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:49:47 -0500, Rod <nhra_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am glad that you got it fixed. My nephew had the same problem
> and ended up losing it. He can't seem to get the lunatic idea out of
> his mind that all the male sperm were stored in the nut he lost, so
> his wife can only have girls.

Ain't that a bit dense? ;O)

--
Krebsforum Lazarus
Das Forum für alternative Krebstherapie

http://www.krebsforum-lazarus.ch

Rod

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:48:35 AM6/8/11
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It has nothing to do with games or dodging your question, it has
EVERYTHING to do with identifying the code you are speaking of.

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 8, 2011, 10:36:19 AM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]

> > Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?

If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
Alpha.

Some people just can't give strait answers:

Uh . . . perhaps my twiter account was hacked. You know when you have
a name like mine people will make fun . . . Well I can't say if that
picture is of me or not . . . you can't really see much since the
angle is bad it could be anyone . . . it might be a picture of someone
else . . . maybe someone was spying on me or took the pictures without
my knowledge in my dressing room . . . okay I did send the pictures
and they are of me . . . but I didn't know who I was sending them to
or how old they were . . . . but Hey! Stop shouting at me yes! I was
full at the time . . . and my wife supports me and is standing behind
me all the way even though she is not here at the moment . . . well
yes over the years I've been sending lots of pictures to lots of
anonymous people whom I thought were both adults and women but it's
not real sex . . . and I do want to apologize to my family . . . But
I did nothing wrong and I will not resign!!!

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 8, 2011, 11:19:39 AM6/8/11
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On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>
> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
> Alpha.

Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 8, 2011, 12:14:30 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 8:19 am, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>
> > If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
> > Alpha.
>
> Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
> wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
> Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha

The behavior makes it obvious.

WDE: Who? Why?
Rod: How.

WDE: Yeah but Who? Why?
Rod: How.

WDE: Let's try that again. Who?
Rod: How.

WDE: Who?
Rod: How.

Amazing Grace

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Jun 8, 2011, 2:18:47 PM6/8/11
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Who's On first.
Whats on second.
I don't know is on third.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng&feature=related

Have a nice day. :-)
Grace

Rod

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:00:08 PM6/8/11
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On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>
> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
> Alpha.
>
> Some people just can't give strait answers:

You've avoided explaining why you are accusing me and of what,
so yes..your words above are true.

Okay, here is how it stands. YOU gave me no indication
of what the code was or even what was done to you. Until I read
Jimmy's post speaking about an email, I had no idea what you
have been ranting about.

No, I haven't sent anything to you or anyone else. Now, if you do
believe the opposite, then you are going to have to prove it. Having
said this, you can turn whatever you have over to the law and allow
them to deal with it.

Your email address is visible in your headers. If you do not want
people who have been offended by you to take revenge, then you WILL
heed my advice and 1. Stop insulting others, and 2. Stop using Google to
post.

If you refuse to do either of these, then you are a target. There
are better than 2 million people on the net, and God alone knows
how many of those you have offended, but with your gift for making
unsupported and undocumented accusations, I'd say it may end up
being a fair sized bunch of people.

I am not one of those. When I get tired of your mealy mouth
I filter you out, *NO PROBLEM*

Rod

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:00:51 PM6/8/11
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On 6/8/2011 4:28 AM, Happy Oyster < wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:49:47 -0500, Rod<nhra_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I am glad that you got it fixed. My nephew had the same problem
>> and ended up losing it. He can't seem to get the lunatic idea out of
>> his mind that all the male sperm were stored in the nut he lost, so
>> his wife can only have girls.
>
> Ain't that a bit dense? ;O)
>

And then some...

Rod

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Jun 8, 2011, 8:03:35 PM6/8/11
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On 6/8/2011 11:14 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:19 am, Jimmy Alpha<jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>>
>>> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
>>> Alpha.
>>
>> Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
>> wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
>> Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha
>
> The behavior makes it obvious.


Yeah...obvious that you've gone off the deep end. Seeker,
I'm not the only person on usenet capable of reading headers.

If I were, you would still have to prove it.

Rod

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Jun 8, 2011, 9:18:50 PM6/8/11
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On 6/8/2011 11:14 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:19 am, Jimmy Alpha<jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>>
>>> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
>>> Alpha.
>>
>> Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
>> wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
>> Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha
>
> The behavior makes it obvious.
>
> WDE: Who? Seeker

Why? He can't read headers so he makes accusations
> Seeker: How.
>

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 8, 2011, 10:47:30 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 5:03 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2011 11:14 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 8:19 am, Jimmy Alpha<jimmy_al...@operamail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>
> >>> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com>    wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>
> >>> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
> >>> Alpha.
>
> >> Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
> >> wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
> >> Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha
>
> > The behavior makes it obvious.
>
>    Yeah...obvious that you've gone off the deep end.

I asked you three times. Let's make it four. Were you the one?

> Seeker,
>    I'm not the only person on usenet capable of reading headers.
>
>    If I were, you would still have to prove it.

I _asked_ you.

Wherez da evidence?

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Jun 8, 2011, 10:52:46 PM6/8/11
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On Jun 8, 5:00 pm, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>
> > If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
> > Alpha.
>
> > Some people just can't give strait answers:
>
>    You've avoided explaining why you are accusing me and of what,

Because you avoid my question every time I ask. Let's try it yet
again. Was it you? Were you the one who did it?


>    so yes..your words above are true.
>
>    Okay, here is how it stands. YOU gave me no indication
>    of what the code was or even what was done to you. Until I read
>    Jimmy's post speaking about an email, I had no idea what you
>    have been ranting about.

Someone forged my e-mail in a fake post. I have nuked it so it's gone
except where it was quoted.

>    No, I haven't sent anything to you or anyone else. Now, if you do
>    believe the opposite, then you are going to have to prove it.

I was going by what you said.

> Having
>    said this, you can turn whatever you have over to the law and allow
>    them to deal with it.

You must have me mistaken for someone else. No money was taken from
me so I have no reason to talk to the police. When someone annoys me
here I talk to them here.

>    Your email address is visible in your headers. If you do not want
>    people who have been offended by you to take revenge, then you WILL
> heed my advice and 1. Stop insulting others, and 2. Stop using Google to
> post.
>
>    If you refuse to do either of these, then you are a target. There
>    are better than 2 million people on the net, and God alone knows
>    how many of those you have offended, but with your gift for making
>    unsupported and undocumented accusations,

You are thinking of someone else.

Rod

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On 6/8/2011 9:47 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:03 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 6/8/2011 11:14 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 8:19 am, Jimmy Alpha<jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/2011 10:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>>
>>>>> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
>>>>> Alpha.
>>
>>>> Hey, I feel I'm correct, but if Rodney was to say it wasn't him, *I*
>>>> wouldn't make a federal case of it! lol
>>>> Jimmy "who'd lie about an email" Alpha
>>
>>> The behavior makes it obvious.
>>
>> Yeah...obvious that you've gone off the deep end.
>
> I asked you three times. Let's make it four. Were you the one?

The one that did what seeker ? BE SPECIFIC!

>
>> Seeker,
>> I'm not the only person on usenet capable of reading headers.
>>
>> If I were, you would still have to prove it.
>
> I _asked_ you.
>

And I answered you. I've already said (((NO))) TWICE NOW when accused
of hacking your email. I even showed you where Google inserts your email
address into the header.....((((WHY WASTE VALUABLE ENERGY HACKING WHEN
YOU CAN READ THE HEADER)))))

AND YET HERE YOU ARE ASKING ME THE SAME QUESTIONS AGAIN.

YOU ARE ONE VERY OBNOXIOUS JERK

Rod

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On 6/8/2011 9:52 PM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:00 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 6/8/2011 9:36 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 5:48 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Were you the one or did someone else do the thing in question?
>>
>>> If you can't bring your self to deny it then I've got to believe Jimmy
>>> Alpha.
>>
>>> Some people just can't give strait answers:
>>
>> You've avoided explaining why you are accusing me and of what,
>
> Because you avoid my question every time I ask.

You are either the worst liar in the history of mankind
or the dumbest bastard on the planet. Personally I believe
you to be both.


I answered NO the first time you asked.


Wherez da evidence?

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Where? I didn't see your answer until June 9th.

Wherez da evidence?

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On Jun 9, 5:43 am, Rod <nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>     The one that did what seeker ? BE SPECIFIC!

Are you the one who on Jun 7 at 9:57 am posted the fake messages that
started off with:
"Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to . . ."
and then went into a profanity laced paragraph regarding someone's
sexuality
with my e-mail on it and using the handle "seeker"?

> >>     Seeker,
> >>     I'm not the only person on usenet capable of reading headers.
>
> >>     If I were, you would still have to prove it.
>
> > I _asked_ you.
>
>    And I answered you.

On June 9th.

> I've already said (((NO))) TWICE NOW when accused
> of hacking your email.

You joined the conversation as if you had.

">>> How did you forge the e-mail?

It isn't a matter of forging, it's a matter of making the sotware do
things that it isn't designed to do, and to do that you actually have
to learn to write code, and in the case of my browser, it's Java."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/10bc9df8acd330b9

This is an explanation of how you forged the e-mail. Are you saying
you didn't mean for it to sound the way you wrote it or was your
account hacked too?


"I simply read them both from the source code contained within the
headers."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/b7d3e6a2dd6d10a3

Was your "no" a you are not the one or your "no" means instead of
forging you were working your hacker magic and it should not be called
something mundane like "forging"? I could not tell which you meant so
I asked you.


"> So you are the one who made the code do what it wasn't designed to
do
> or did someone else make the code do what it wasn't designed to do?


I didn't have to."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/d5e104e2669782a8

To me it sounds like you are still bragging about your hacker magic.

> I even showed you where Google inserts your email
> address into the header.....((((WHY WASTE VALUABLE ENERGY HACKING WHEN
> YOU CAN READ THE HEADER)))))

I don't know.

>    AND YET HERE YOU ARE ASKING ME THE SAME QUESTIONS AGAIN.

I just wanted to hear a plain "no" or a plain "yes". When you tell me
"no" after describing how you did it and go on to continue describing
how you did it this is not so clear.

>    YOU ARE ONE VERY OBNOXIOUS JERK

Thanks Rod. You are so kind.

Rod

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On 6/9/2011 9:08 AM, Wherez da evidence? wrote:
> On Jun 9, 5:43 am, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> The one that did what seeker ? BE SPECIFIC!
>
> Are you the one who on Jun 7 at 9:57 am posted the fake messages that
> started off with:
> "Jimmy...I'm ashamed of you! You've gone back to . . ."
> and then went into a profanity laced paragraph regarding someone's
> sexuality
> with my e-mail on it and using the handle "seeker"?


All you had to do was be specific about what you were referring to.


You asked me once in a post if I had *hacked your email*, and I said
NO and went into an explanation of what I had done, demonstrating that
I had not done anything to your email.

In other words, NO, I have not hacked into anything of yours.

Jimmy Alpha

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On 6/9/2011 11:25 AM, Rod wrote:
As I follow the two I'm drawn to how the two personalities seem similar
between Anthony and Chung! Is it just me or do others see it too?
Jimmy "dien cai dau" Alpha


Rod

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Let me be specific. I've confused you, and neither of us
are good at communicating with the other. I said NO to hacking
YOUR email ONLY.

I DID write that post to Jimmy. It has nothing to do with hacking.

It has everything to do with making use of the software
you have before you!

Jimmy I get a gas out of. He always has a good comeback, and he has
a sense of humor.


I didn't see your answer until June 9th.

Since you seem not to want to read the entire thread again,
I've repeated the answer for you here.

Rod

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Will you do me a favor and learn to read the headers, please ? Go
to the Google archives and look up your own posts, and observe
what information about YOU is placed in the headers. Your headers
tell everything about your computer, the address, the OS and version,
the level of language used to write the OS....

the ENTIRE ball of wax, even down to what town in california you
reside in.

If YOU are wise, you WILL stop using Google to post. There are
free news servers that you can post from; news.eternal-september.org,
and many more. Pick one, register and download a news client.


>
>> AND YET HERE YOU ARE ASKING ME THE SAME QUESTIONS AGAIN.
>
> I just wanted to hear a plain "no" or a plain "yes". When you tell me
> "no" after describing how you did it and go on to continue describing
> how you did it this is not so clear.

If you will remember correctly, YOU accused me of hacking your email,
and I said NO because I did NOT hack you. All of your information
is freely available for the looking, courtesy of your good friend
Google!

I also said yes to writing the post to Jimmy.


>
>> YOU ARE ONE VERY OBNOXIOUS JERK
>
> Thanks Rod. You are so kind.

Seeker, you really put my patience to the test. I apologize
for saying those rotten things to you.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
prodigal Jimmy Alpha simply because we really love him as our LORD
commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
>> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>
>Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
>I hope this helps charlie!
>
>di·et1 (dº“¹t)
>
>*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71a9e3358e6c60d4?

Eating the right daily amount (32 oz) involves as much regulating
(i.e. rules) as eating nothing (0 oz), which is fasting.

Just as fasting is not a diet, it logically follows from your cited
definition that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet either.

Moreover, if the 2PD-OMER Approach were a diet, it would not be
possible to combine it with a regular diet as this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) advocates.

Bottom line:

The LORD's http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER (Exodus 16:16) Approach is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet else the 12 tribes of Israel would not have
been able to physically endure their 40 years in the desert.

Truth is simple :-)

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:

"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.

Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?

I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?

For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.

Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?

"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."

Source:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed

Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.

It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's 2PD-
OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...

... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read your post:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?

>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?

Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...

Null hypothesis:

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.

Prediction based on the null hypothesis:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.

Actual observation:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.

Conclusion:

Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?

We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote in part:
>> A sockpuppet wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Chung, do you sin?
>>
>> The absolutely right and true answer is that Dr. Chung is wonderfully
>> hungry right now (Luke 6:21A).
>
> That's not an answer to the question ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e9dd6c6b2febace5?

It remains the perfect answer based on the following Scripture:

"See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the
blessing if you obey the commands of the LORD your GOD that I am
giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the LORD
your GOD and turn from the way that I command you today by following
other gods, which you have not known." (Deuteronomy 11:26-28)

Amen.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW; for you will be satisfied." (Luke
6:21A)

Amen.

This cardiologist is satisfied in knowing from being wonderfully
hungry right now and from what is written at Deuteronomy 11:26-28
together with Luke 6:21A that his being blessed by GOD right
now(Lk6:21A) means that he has been obedient to the LORD's commands
(i.e. not sinning) because otherwise there would have been only a
curse(Dt11:28) and no blessing(Dt11:27) from Him.

Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?

Yes, you know you have been lying:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?

Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

(1) Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
(2) Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
(3) Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
(4) Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
(5) Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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SICK STALKER ARROGANT FAGGOT

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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prodigal Ace* (aka "Dr." Kelley) wrote:
>
> I thought it was a quack.

Indeed, you are a quack as evident by your delusion that hunger is
starvation.

Still praying for your perishing mind however ...

... and encouraging born-again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
Ace's perishing mind simply because we really love him as our LORD


commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Evidence that Ace* is born again (Jn3:3&5) until Ace* deleted his
YouTube account out of fear of persecution by his unredeemed
friends&family who cannot say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth and who
think he was mocking their condition (that they are no better than
socks as evident by their not being able to do what his sock can do):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuWCkxxVdFo

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcece5df8d7697f7?

All can recall from memory that if Ace* weren't prodigal, he would
have been able to boldly say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth on YouTube
without cowering behind both a sockpuppet and a fake name. Moreover,
he would not have fearfully deleted his YouTube account as witnessed
by all when challenged by others who took offense accusing him of
mocking Jesus although saying "Jesus is LORD" glorifies Him even when
done via a sockpuppet.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a727291fe2aae160?

Now, if Ace* weren't prodigal, he would stop unwittingly exposing
himself as a fraud here while trying to hide behind various fake names
as he tries to steal the credentials of others.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f225d5db5e16ed27?

What's really his credentials anyway?

Likely none because of mental illness:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5720bf4d940f5626?

Moreover, impersonating a licensed physician as he has done a number
of times here on Usenet is a felony:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d80bb1ae64d18eb?

prodigal Ace* wrote:
>
> Let's see... Today I ate two small slices of pizza, 6 peanut butter
> cracker sandwiches, a spinach salad with a little bit of grilled
> chicken and drank 8oz of low sodium V8. I usually don't keep track of
> what I eat, but this is pretty typical daily volume wise. Am I hungry?
> Nope.

Thus confirming that you are indeed prodigal and really need to turn
away (repent) from your intentionally ignorant (ignoring weight of
meals) commission of the original Adam&Eve sin of gluttony in order to
be blessed (Luke 6:21a) by GOD else something worse (John 5:14) like a
heart attack or stroke may happen to you.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ca4ad6a56f67f4e2?

prodigal Ace* earlier wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > Therefore, it is smart to eat just the right amount (32 oz) of daily
> > food thereby neither underdose nor overdose it.
>
> Q: Can you post empirical evidence, outside of your own substantiated
> personal claims, that 32 oz is the correct amount of food to eat irrespective of
> calories, trans fats, sugar, cholesterol and sodium?

Yes. See Deuteronomy 8:4 which summarizes 40 years of empirical
evidence supporting the efficacy of holding to the right amount (omer)
of daily real food (manna) as prescribed by the Great Physician
(Exodus 16+16=32 oz) Who is this HeartDoc's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
) Boss (LORD).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2899814fe7890f4d?

prodigal Ace* (aka Brian G. Kelley, PhD) earlier wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >

> > Thus, it remains much smarter to http://WDJW.net/NotDiet and
> > instead,http://WDJW.net/Guard the body by holding to the right daily amount
> > (32 oz) of food in order to lose the VAT thereby possibly curing the
> > type-2 diabetes.
> >
> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>
> For which there is no clinical study.

Actually, there has been a clinical study held out of Emory University
that enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. It remains
this physician's choice to not publish it since it pales in comparison
to the comparably sized but much longer duration 40 year clinical
study by the Great Physician, Who is this physician's Boss, Who
published this in the Bible with the miraculous results of 100%
efficacy (Deuteronomy 8:4). This choice to not publish results that do
not add to what is reported in the Bible would be this lead
investigator's right. Truth is simply reality.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d5360a6ad0ae565c?

prodigal Ace* wrote:
> Studies at places like Emory are funded / given grants

Not all studies at private institutions like Emory are funded by
public grants and indeed, the studies involving the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach remain a privately-funded volunteer effort involving Emory
physicians:

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5cd7b7e8786b1914?

prodigal Ace* shrieked:
> HUNGER IS STARVATION

Yours is a terrible delusion that has led to the insane behavior of
eating children (2 Kings 6:29):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5579e8515529ede9?

Hunger is not starvation as evident by it being synonymous with
appetite, which everyone knows is absolutely healthy, which is
wonderful:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hunger

> Psychopath.

Lie. Psychopaths don't openly pray on Usenet to ask GOD to destroy
profanely (Hebrews 12:16) evil (Genesis 25:32) creatures whom GOD
hates (Malachi 1:2-3) much less author books ( http://NetCabal.com and
http://CelestinMiracle.com ) and treat cardiac patients while
maintaining an active medical license that is verifiable on line.
Truth is simply reality and the reality is that you are at risk for
the insane behavior of eating children (2 Kings 6:29).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b646de8f6d07ac87?

Instead, you are a psychopath:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5579e8515529ede9?

prodigal Ace* shrieked:
> > > 30 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR DIE OF HUNGER:
> > >http://peacenowar.net/newpeace/images/stories/hunger-sm.jpg
> >
> > If that were true, hunger instead of starvation would be listed as the
> > cause of death on their death certificates.
>
> If that were true, since "smoking" isn't listed as the cause of death on
> death certificates, people don't die from it.

Smoking is listed as the cause of death of smokers in Britain:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1113208/

Thus, people die from smoking.

Bottom line:
You need to repent and stop being prodigal else something worse may
happen to you (John 5:14)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b454aab62e6fb10b?

prodigal Ace* timidly wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > Specifically, T2s need to lose their VAT which is the proximate cause
> > of their disease.
> >
> > The smartest way to do this is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet (i.e.
> > restricting food choices) but rather to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of real food.
>
> Which is apparently not endorsed by any other physician ...

Lie.

This physician's LORD, Who is the Great Physician, is another
physician and the concept of one right daily amount (omer) for
everyone is by His design as revealed by what is written at Exodus
16:16. Laus Deo for His allowing this physician working in
collaboration with his physician colleagues at Emory University
( http://EmoryIMVC.org ) to discover in 1997 that an omer of real food
weighs 32 oz. All bona-fide physicians who know about the 32 oz of the
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach have given their tacit approval
about it as evident by none either writing or speaking about an
alternative right daily amount of real food.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/039c15d33b9993e1?

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d1b49966a79db71b?

http://EmoryIMVC.org

IMVC is the International Medical VAT Cure (aka http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach )

Now please stop lying Ace* or something worse may happen to you (John
5:14).

In the interim, may GOD bless you, Ace*, now (Luke 6:21a) more than
ever causing you to become hungrier (Deuteronomy 8:3) than ever
thereby helping you realize that if hunger were starvation you would
be dying a thousand deaths now that you are a thousand times hungrier
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ae9391ce0321e0d6?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for


diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our http://WDJW.net/Status and then http://WDJW.net/Update
so that there would be http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 11, 2011, 5:35:01 AM6/11/11
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Any kind of eating regimen is a diet.
Weighing food is a regimen.
A monotonous regimen.
People get tired of regimens and that's why diets fail.
That's why Chris Malcolm's 2pid-0mer efforts have failed.

I weighed in at 156 lbs (BMI of 21) today. BP 107/67. Heart rate 58.
No diet. No regimen on any kind... No food scale.

From 240 to 156 in two years by simply retraining my brain on how I
think about food, which really means I don't think about it. Eating
less just comes naturally. Eating a nutritionally balanced menu just
comes naturally.

Norm MacDonald

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Jun 11, 2011, 11:27:16 AM6/11/11
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in message
news:48c325ac-f6f1-43e1...@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> prodigal Ace* (aka "Dr." Kelley) wrote:
>>
>> I thought it was a quack.
>
> Indeed, you are a quack as evident by your delusion that hunger is
> starvation.

Great job on the name calling, dipshit.

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:49:51 PM6/11/11
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On Jun 11, 8:27 am, "Norm MacDonald" <iambec...@death.com> wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in messagenews:48c325ac-f6f1-43e1...@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

>
> > prodigal Ace* (aka "Dr." Kelley) wrote:
>
> >> I thought it was a quack.
>
> > Indeed, you are a quack as evident by your delusion that hunger is
> > starvation.
>
> Great job on the name calling, dipshit.

Apparently Mr. Chung doesn't understand that there's more than one
kind of doctor.

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 11, 2011, 10:02:03 PM6/11/11
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Andrew B. Chung pathologically lied:

> Evidence that Ace* is born again

Error. Ace* is a Usenet pseudonym. Pseudonyms don't become
born again :-)

> (Jn3:3&5) until Ace* deleted his
> YouTube account

Pathological lie. This is my YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bkfjinlv?feature=mhee

> out of fear of persecution by his unredeemed
> friends&family who cannot say "Jesus is LORD"
> with their mouth

Delusion. This is me saying "Jesus is LORD" with redeemed
friends&family
for all the unredeemed in the world to see and hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc0_DylzOqw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDgRZp2NHg4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUd_cGafXcE

And appearing on Christian radio programs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UKDV4YkOws

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

>
> Name-calling is by definition lying.
>
> Ace* is a deluded prodigal reprobate fraud.

Yep, Chung just proved himself a liar again by his own definition :-)

This concisely proves that girly-man-child Chung is delusional,
pathological and just plain ridiculous.

And apparently has the hots for me as well - yuck.

People on Usenet have been telling Mr. Chung he's a kook for years.
But of course he can't/won't listen. However I'm still hopeful for him
that one day it might sink in.

Jimmy Alpha

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Jun 11, 2011, 10:52:53 PM6/11/11
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On 06/11/2011 09:35 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
> Any kind of eating regimen is a diet.

I know that, 'cause I'm Jimmy Alpha GeD

> Weighing food is a regimen.
> A monotonous regimen.
> People get tired of regimens and that's why diets fail.
> That's why Chris Malcolm's 2pid-0mer efforts have failed.

Has anyone ever seen a study on charlie's diet? I know he lies about
people, so I'd think he's lie about most anything!

> I weighed in at 156 lbs (BMI of 21) today. BP 107/67. Heart rate 58.
> No diet. No regimen on any kind... No food scale.
>
> From 240 to 156 in two years by simply retraining my brain on how I
> think about food, which really means I don't think about it. Eating
> less just comes naturally. Eating a nutritionally balanced menu just
> comes naturally.

Sweet...
Jimmy "not so trim" Alpha

Brian Gene Kelley

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Jun 11, 2011, 11:48:00 PM6/11/11
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On Jun 11, 7:52 pm, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy_al...@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 06/11/2011 09:35 AM, Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>
> > Any kind of eating regimen is a diet.
>
> I know that, 'cause I'm Jimmy Alpha GeD
>
> > Weighing food is a regimen.
> > A monotonous regimen.
> > People get tired of regimens and that's why diets fail.
> > That's why Chris Malcolm's 2pid-0mer efforts have failed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen a study on charlie's diet? I know he lies about
> people, so I'd think he's lie about most anything!

Of course no study exists.

> > I weighed in at 156 lbs (BMI of 21) today. BP 107/67. Heart rate 58.
> > No diet. No regimen on any kind... No food scale.
>
> >  From 240 to 156 in two years by simply retraining my brain on how I
> > think about food, which really means I don't think about it. Eating
> > less just comes naturally. Eating a nutritionally balanced menu just
> > comes naturally.
>
> Sweet...
> Jimmy "not so trim" Alpha

The first year and a half was very difficult at times. But now it
comes easily.

Brian Gene Kelley

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Jun 11, 2011, 11:58:21 PM6/11/11
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD lied:

> prodigal Ace* (aka "Dr." Kelley) wrote:
>
>
>
> > I thought it was a quack.
>
> Indeed, you are a quack

Lie.

> as evident by your delusion that hunger is
> starvation.

Incorrect:

Starvation and Hunger, Humankind's Constant Companions
http://gherkinstomatoes.com/2009/11/10/14837/

Hunger & Starvation
http://intotheashes.imva.info/breaking-news/hunger-starvation-to-visit-humanity

Hunger Starvation - Quality of Life - Global Issues
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

Hunger, Malnutrition and Starvation
http://www.stopgenocidenow.org/iact/iact7/day9/2009/03/31/921

Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

TicToc

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Jun 12, 2011, 12:36:22 AM6/12/11
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> prodigal Ace* (aka "Dr." Kelley) wrote:
>>
>> I thought it was a quack.
>
> Indeed, you are a quack

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Jun 12, 2011, 6:35:06 AM6/12/11
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On Jun 11, 7:02 pm, "Brian Gene Kelley, PhD" <whitestu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
.

Great Sage Itchy

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Jun 19, 2011, 7:32:48 AM6/19/11
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In article <it1fnv$97n$1...@dont-email.me>, TicToc <nob...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

What about it Chung, you lying arrogant piece of shit? "Name-calling is
by definition lying." -Andrew B. Chung

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