Found ver 1 of Chungs self written 'faq' part of it was his 2 pound "diet"

Peter B

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Will post it a bit later.

Stuff just keeps on rolling in.

Must be frustrating, eh Andy?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 30, 2010, 4:17:11 AM8/30/10

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... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Truth is simple :-)

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE

It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49a31d5cd1d9c361?

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

> Exodus 16:16 (English Standard Version)
>
> 16 This is what the LORD has commanded: 'Gather of it, each one of you, as
> much as he can eat. You shall each take an omer,[a] according to the number
> of the persons that each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a48070f6b6239e0e?

> Footnotes:
> a. Exodus 16:16 An omer was about 2 quarts or 2 liters

The footnote is incorrect simply because it is written that manna is
ready-to-eat-food that has the consistency of "wafers made from
honey" (Exodus 16:31) which would be unlike either a grain or a fluid
so that it stands to reason that an omer of manna is not a volume unit
of manna but rather a weight unit of manna.

> Exodus 16:31 (New American Standard Bible)
>
> 31 The house of Israel named it manna, and it was like coriander seed,
> white, and its taste was like wafers with honey.
>
> There is the verse for you. Manna is the food. Omer is the weight.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f169b569b1a5b9fa?

Yes, an omer of manna is a weight measure of manna unlike either quart
or liter, which are volume measures.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Peter B. wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

Here is another's opinion about you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

Bottom line concerning you, Peter:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abf1b9d597143cff?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Ken

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Jimmy Alpha

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sightwalker with a phd said:
> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>
> Truth is simple :-)

Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.

I hope this helps charlie!

di·et1 (dº“¹t)
*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*, *especially so as to
lose weight or control a medical condition.* --tr. To regulate or
prescribe food and drink for. [Middle English diete, from Old French,
from Latin diaeta, way of living, diet, from Greek diaita.] --di“et·er n.
di·et2 (dº“¹t) n. 1. A national or local legislative assembly in
certain countries, such as Japan. 2. A formal general assembly of the
princes or estates of the Holy Roman Empire. [Middle English diete,
day's journey, day for meeting, assembly, from Medieval Latin di¶ta,
alteration (influenced by Latin di¶s, day; see deiw- below) of Latin
diaeta, *daily routine*.

Jimmy Alpha

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

>> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
>> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>
>Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
>I hope this helps charlie!
>

>di·et1 (dş“ąt)

>
>*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*

Eating the right daily amount (32 oz) involves as much regulating
(i.e. rules) as eating nothing (O oz), which is fasting.

Just as fasting is not a diet, it logically follows from your cited
definition that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet either.

Truth is simple :-)

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:

"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.

Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?

I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?

For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.

Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?

"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."

Source:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed

Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.

It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's
2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...

... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>

>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read your post:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?

>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.

Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?

Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...

Null hypothesis:

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.

Prediction based on the null hypothesis:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.

Actual observation:

Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.

Conclusion:

Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote

> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>

> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?

We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?

prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote in part:
>> A sockpuppet wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Chung, do you sin?
>>
>> The absolutely right and true answer is that Dr. Chung is wonderfully
>> hungry right now (Luke 6:21A).
>
> That's not an answer to the question ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e9dd6c6b2febace5?

It remains the perfect answer based on the following Scripture:

"See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the
blessing if you obey the commands of the LORD your GOD that I am
giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the LORD
your GOD and turn from the way that I command you today by following
other gods, which you have not known." (Deuteronomy 11:26-28)

Amen.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW; for you will be satisfied." (Luke
6:21A)

Amen.

This cardiologist is satisfied in knowing from being wonderfully
hungry right now and from what is written at Deuteronomy 11:26-28
together with Luke 6:21A that his being blessed by GOD right
now(Lk6:21A) means that he has been obedient to the LORD's commands
(i.e. not sinning) because otherwise there would have been only a
curse(Dt11:28) and no blessing(Dt11:27) from Him.

Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?

Yes, you know you have been lying:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?

Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep

May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but

not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Peter B

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Very Good!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

>> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
>> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>
>Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
>I hope this helps charlie!
>

>di·et1 (dş“ąt)

>
>*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71a9e3358e6c60d4?