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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 8, 2012, 7:56:51 PM7/8/12
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Susan wrote:
>
> Type 2 Diabetes Re-Emerges After Bariatric Surgery
>
> By: BRUCE JANCIN, Clinical Endocrinology News Digital Network
>
> HOUSTON � One in five patients whose type 2 diabetes went into remission
> following gastric bypass surgery experienced disease re-emergence within
> 5 years postoperatively.
>
> The likelihood of diabetes recurrence in this retrospective
> single-center study wasn�t affected by preoperative body mass index or
> the amount of weight regained postsurgically.
>
> Indeed, the only significant risk factor for diabetes reemergence was a
> longer duration of type 2 diabetes preoperatively. Patients with a
> greater than 5-year preoperative history of the disease were 3.8-fold
> more likely to experience disease recurrence, according to Dr. Yessica
> Ramos of the Mayo Clinic Arizona, Scottsdale.
>
> The clinical implication: "Early surgical intervention in the type 2
> diabetic obese population may improve the durability of remission of
> type 2 diabetes," she said.
>
> Dr. Ramos reported on 72 obese patients with type 2 diabetes who
> underwent Roux-en-Y gastric bypass at the Mayo Clinic Arizona during
> 2000-2007 for whom 5-year follow-up data were available. The patients�
> mean preoperative body mass index was 45 kg/m2, with an average age of
> 49.5 years.
>
> Sixty-six of the 72 patients (92%) experienced remission of their
> diabetes as defined by a hemoglobin A1c below 6.5% while off all
> antidiabetic medications. The other six patients had persistent type 2
> diabetes throughout follow-up.
>
> A total of 14 of 66 patients, or 21%, whose type 2 diabetes went into
> remission subsequently saw their disease return as defined by an HbA1c
> of 6.5% or more, a fasting blood glucose greater than 7 mmol/L, or use
> of antidiabetic drugs.
>
> Diabetes returned as early as 2 years post surgery in five patients.
>
> The explanation for the high rate of diabetes reemergence remains
> unclear. Retrospective studies of bariatric surgery patients are
> notoriously difficult because the surgery is often life changing and
> patients are frequently lost to follow-up.
>
> Dr. Ramos�s working hypothesis is that patients with longer duration of
> type 2 diabetes are at a higher risk of recurrence because they have
> more compromised beta cell function. But definitive answers must await
> further reports from prospective randomized trials of surgery vs.
> medication as a treatment for type 2 diabetes in obese patients, such as
> the one reported from the Cleveland Clinic (N. Engl. J. Med.
> 2012;366:1567-76), or analysis of data from the large multicenter
> bariatric surgery registries.
>
> Dr. Ramos reported having no financial conflicts.

Smarter to start now and hold to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, thereby stopping the overeating without undernourishment
to obviate the need for bariatric surgery.

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
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EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Julie Bove wrote:
> "I Worry" wrote:
>
> > Have you, or would you have the surgery to rid your body of diabetes?
>
> No.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e210b58e11adddc3?

Indeed, surgery cannot cure your terrible "hunger is starvation"
delusion:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2aa0d440720ec54c?

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?

>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!

No you are not.

> Why?

Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.

> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?

Being hungry means being able to digest food.

> I just don't know.

You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?

> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.

That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.

> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...

Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Because starving people are dying.

Profound!
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On 8/21/2012 10:06 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"

Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
but now we must find the why for that feeling.

> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!

Julie, let Jimmy give insight on why you girls feel you're always
*starving*.

> No you are not.

You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
little buzz, hence beer is great for sexual stimulation.

This is from Jimmy not some text book but true none the less, I say have
a BLT and beer then go bang them calories off doing your part to make
someone else happy too.

I hope this helps you understand your *starving* is coming from your
loin's, telling you to have beer and get wild! If you *starve* a lot,
drink lite beer and enjoy having the extra pounds pounded off.

The tripe about omars or omers or whatever from sightwalker makes for
wonderful humor, but from a dreadfully sick chap who may only want to
sell you his little diet book and not care about your well being?

Do for free as Jimmy tells ya, and make the world a better place.
Jimmy "vote King Obama" Alpha GeD

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Be sure to pay your lawyer, Andy.

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sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"

Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.

> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!

Julie, let Jimmy give insight on why you girls feel you are always
*starving*.

> No you are not.

You see Dr sightwalker is right, you're not really starving for food,
but *starving* for sex, making baby. Mother nature/evolution over aeons
programed you to know fat was the healthy way to have children. Hence
this is one of the reasons on average the fat women can enjoy sex more
than her skinny counter part. Fat gives you the feeling of security,
skinny and you'll be more suicidal. Why do you think men take ladies out
to eat? It's to ready them for sex! That's why a medium pizza and a
little sex work so well together. Beer gives a filling feeling too and a
little buzz, hence beer is great for sexual simulations. Remember your
over eating is basically a substitute for your lack of sex. Hence more
food equals a need for more sex, not a diet.

This is from Jimmy not some text book but true none the less, I say have
a BLT and beer then go bang them calories off doing your part to make
someone else happy as you help find yourself.

I hope this helps you understand your *starving* is coming from your
loin's, telling you to have beer and get wild! If you *starve* a lot,
drink lite beer and enjoy having the extra pounds pounded off.

The tripe about omars or omers or whatever from sightwalker makes for
wonderful humor, but from a dreadfully sick chap who may only want to
sell you his little diet book and not care about your well being? One
has perhaps died from under eating who may have been under the two pound
diet, we don't want you to be number two.

Do for free as Jimmy tells ya, and make the world a better place.
Jimmy "vote King Obama out" Alpha GeD

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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sightwalker with a phd said:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "I'm starving!"

Everyone knows the feeling of starving, it's ok to feel you're starving,
but now we must find the "why" for that feeling.

> Source:
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df465c1?
>
>>
>> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG
was not
>> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121
before
>> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of
veggies in
>> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
>> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the
breakfast
>> insulin tomorrow. But...
>>
>> I am starving!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

Uergil

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In article
<ebccb85e-502f-448f...@n2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:



pack your face with all the food you can eat

Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:18:14 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
>and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:

Breivik considers himself to be author, too.

Breivik killed some. But Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung has more than 260
names of persons he wants dead in his online deathlist.



If you notice that Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung approaches people,
================================================================
do call the police.
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******************
W A R N I N G
******************

Here are some URLs of news media articles and videos on the death of
Markea Berry:

Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a �Hunger Cult�
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

The doctor behind the �hunger cult� that obsessed a mother who
�starved her 16-year-old daughter to death�
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

Hunger is Starvation.
Starvation leads to Death.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/hungry-doctor-sees-starved-girls-mom

"Keith Ayoob, director of the nutrition clinic at the Rose F. Kennedy
Center in the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, called
Chung's two-pound rule "disturbing"."
http://southcobb.patch.com/articles/mableton-cardiologist-may-have-influenced-mother-to-starve-teen


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Uergil

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In article
<3513f074-720a-42ba...@y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren�t the problem.
�There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a �positive outcomes,� he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. �School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they�re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.�
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
�We don�t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,� he said. �A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

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Dr. Andrew B. Crackot spat:

> May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
>
> GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.
>
> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.


All you need to know in understanding the crackpot psyician:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0


Transcript from a video that Andrew B. Chung posted to GodTube.com and
later deleted:

"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church, Woodstock. Andrew, I need to inform you that
you're not allowed to come back to our campus. I don't want you to
show up this weekend, I don't want you to come back, okay? That's the
decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back,
I will call the police. Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully.
Allow
it to end right now. Thank you and have a good day."

Contact info:
First Baptist Church of Woodstock
Pastor Johnny M. Hunt
11905 Georgia 92
Woodstock, GA 30188
(770) 926-4428
u...@fbcw.netwww.fbcw.org
Twitter: @fbcwoodstockhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php?
sk=group_18809369051

--------------------------------------

Andrew B. Chung was terminated after only 80 days employment at the
Central Florida Heart
Center by head of Cardiology: Dr. Frank Hildner MD:

Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the following letter to Andrew B. Chung,
which was originally posted by Andrew B. Chung himself

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that
you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions
and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you
that
is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I
have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the
situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call on physicians from around the world and this community to attest
to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do
cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website.
How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-
perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would
conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work
to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly. Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of
my professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either
me or the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You
may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you
may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once
again, if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened
yet) I will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine
for a hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a
censure, that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your
next and all future applications for licensure. And once again, just
common sense should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have
no common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a
professional community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did
before, you do not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may
be, must be according to the community standard, regardless of what
you
perceive that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that
you were unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks
loudly
and clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to
work
with your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of
hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks
upon such attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you
will
continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you
talked yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL

MU

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transcript from a video that a crackpot physician posted to
GodTube.com and later deleted.

MU

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A Google search of "Andrew Chung Starvation" produced the following:

Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ...
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death’
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the single
gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Also discovered was:

"OVERWEIGHT DIABETES PATIENTS LIVE LONGER":
http://www.redorbit.com/news/video/health_2/1112679920/overweight-diabetes-patients-live-longer/

"Overweight, obese people living longer even with diabetes":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tpfk43

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer":
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Excess Pounds, but Not Too Many, May Lead to Longer Life":
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/health/26weight.html

"Portland researchers find slightly overweight people live longer than
normal-weight people":
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html

"A Little Extra Weight Protects People From Early Death":
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623133523.htm



Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His
Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason

The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
blessing just as you are withering away.

In the interim, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier allowing him to know that he is
being more blessed now (Luke 6:21a) with more attention from the LORD
as His plans (Jeremiah 29:11) are being realized :-)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d643b97da78aab98?

Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD
as the
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him to
hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

duke wrote:
> someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.

Lie.

The following religious Christian children can't though they wanted to
in order to get extra pieces of candy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

> > Even demons can say it through people whom they
> > have possessed

Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD" and do so when
there has been a failure to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the
heart which is deceitfully wicked (Jeremiah 17:9) in allowing them to
abide there.

> Amen to that.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is reminded that Jesus
rescuing His sheep who had wandered (Matthew 15:24) by casting out the
demons that possessed them is different from His saving the souls of
the religious like Nicodemus who needed to be born again (John 3:3 &
5) to become new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17)
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f47fae452f4e5d7a?

someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His
Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung is claiming that besides Jesus Christ, Andrew B. Chung
> is the only true living human Bible teacher;

Lie.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not made that claim
for he is not a Bible teacher simply because physicians are by
definition not Bible teachers though the Great Physician is also the
Great Bible Teacher. Just as your church is not the Church (Matthew
16:18) Christ is building, your Bible teacher is not the Great Bible
Teacher, and your lord (satan) is not LORD Almighty GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f26f91ad51db396?

someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His
Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> post a link to an interpreter/teacher of Scripture whom Andrew B.
> Chung doesn't consider to be false?

It really wouldn't be interesting to the discerning.

Any born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Bible teacher who truthfully says they
are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

Here is a link to the written words of Apostle Paul, who is one such
example of a truthful Bible teacher:

http://t.co/5UPcZDxa

Here is a link to a YouTube video of another:

http://youtu.be/-URd0CQsTyo

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a0602460d126e75e?

someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His
Book(Rev20:15) wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- A false Bible teacher cited by
someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15) of
Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse (Galatians 1:8-9) to the Nth generation
all who grieve His Holy Spirit by falsely teaching that "Anyone can
say 'Jesus is LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Deaf-mutes obviously can't say anything much less say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say
"Jesus is LORD"' has been logically proven to be false since anyone
would include deaf-mutes." -- gentile Christian disciple in the Holy
Spirit

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5be9c7429d83a0d0?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

someone whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His
Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.

Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
do.

It is written that the deceived like you would be deceiving others,
going from bad to worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has the experience of
training parrots to speak and has discovered that they cannot say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) much less the entirety
of the second half of 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Lisa McClung has a similar experience as evident by her African grey
parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
LORD" as seen on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT_0gyOQI1E

Thus, you have been caught in another lie.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06fa5c7ff7727403?

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> The charlatan Christian says, "The fact that I can quote the words
> written in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, proves that I'm a genuine Christian".

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524c5702d8c4db06?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not witnessed anyone
saying that.

Instead, what he has witnessed is born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Christians
simply saying "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy
Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI1Qq58700I

Truth is simply reality, which the accursed (Galatians 1:8-9) like you
and satan really hate.

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.

> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
> Corinthians 12:3b.

Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD ever so severely curse (Galatians 1:8-9) you and all around
you to the Nth generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

This prayer is being answered by GOD with all glory to the Father:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0168fcef73d5713e?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other
than the one we preached to you, let them be under GOD�s curse! As we
have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you
a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under GOD�s curse!"
(Galatians 1:8-9)

"Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared
for the devil and his angels" -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew
25:41)

o.-~`*`~-.)O(.-~`*`~-.o

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Everything Andrew B. Chung writes regarding the Markea Berry case 'can and
will be held against him' - Miranda warning.
______________________________________________________________________________________________

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" seeming to have gone completely insane wrote:

> Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
> with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
> families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
> avenge. -- Dr. Crackpot posing as God.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2

Sadly, more stuff for people to forward as they see fit to:

Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
cobbcounty.org

And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.

Cobb County, GA District Attorney
http://www.cobbda.com/

FBI - Atlanta
http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/

Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
Alabama.
http://www.albme.org/complaint.html

Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
http://www.centralstatehospital.org/

--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung is claiming that besides Jesus Christ, Andrew B. Chung
> is the only true living human Bible teacher;

Lie.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not made that claim
for he is not a Bible teacher simply because physicians are by
definition not Bible teachers though the Great Physician is also the
Great Bible Teacher. Just as your church is not the Church (Matthew
16:18) Christ is building, your Bible teacher is not the Great Bible
Teacher, and your lord (satan) is not LORD Almighty GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f26f91ad51db396?

one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> post a link to an interpreter/teacher of Scripture whom Andrew B.
> Chung doesn't consider to be false?

It really wouldn't be interesting to the discerning.

Any born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Bible teacher who truthfully says they
are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

Here is a link to the written words of Apostle Paul, who is one such
example of a truthful Bible teacher:

http://t.co/5UPcZDxa

Here is a link to a YouTube video of another:

http://youtu.be/-URd0CQsTyo

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a0602460d126e75e?

one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.

Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
do.

It is written that the deceived like you would be deceiving others,
going from bad to worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has the experience of
training parrots to speak and has discovered that they cannot say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) much less the entirety
of the second half of 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Lisa McClung has a similar experience as evident by her African grey
parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
LORD" as seen on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT_0gyOQI1E

Thus, you have been caught in another lie.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06fa5c7ff7727403?

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Andrew's internet attention has withered away like the fig
tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once
it's written there :-)

> (Rev20:15)

"And anyone not found written in the Book of Life" (Rev 20:15).

Obviously those people's names were never written there to begin
with.

> Behold
> as thehttp://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Andrw saying that "The ones who disagree with me the most... who are
against me the most, are actual Christians".

> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

True, as proven by an atheist saying it to make fun of this
misinterpretation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Here's a more correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 12:3
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b0dacd14600c2ad

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"

Is this Andrew's unwitting confession that he's been taken captive by
the devil?

> This physician has not made that claim
> for he is not a Bible teacher

Nor does he interpret Scripture correctly and he acknowledges by
confessing:
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"

> Any born-again Bible teacher who truthfully says they
> are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
> who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

This is the sort of gobbledygook that's gotten him expelled from true
Christian fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> "Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'"

Yes, just like the atheist in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOQ9-LTbos

Once again, unscriptural unorthodox mixed up gobbledygook - but some
might say that he appears demon possessed.

> Suggested additional reading:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.prayer/msg/247e2dab00dfacb5

Indeed :-).

> **and**
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/49952be24bf566c1
>
> > Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> > Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> > ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
>
> Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
> do.

Nice try, but: "In order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are
not unaware of his schemes." 2 Corinthians 2:11

> (2 Timothy 3:13).
> "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and
> being deceived."

Except for the elect who see them for what they are and expel them:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
> LORD" as seen on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqI1J4hNu3E

The infinitive > irregular verb > "is" doesn't exist in Koine Greek:
"oudeis dynatai eipein KYRIOS IESOUS ei me en pneumati hagio": "no one
can say Lord Jesus if not in Spirit Holy"
http://biblos.com/1_corinthians/12-3.htm
The parrot did indeed say, "KYRIOS IESOUS" i.e. "Jesus Lord"

> For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Truth is simply reality

Yep.

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6
> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote
> 1 Corinthians 12:3b.

As demonstrated here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

> May [Andrew's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

There goes Andrew cursing Christians again <sigh>...

> This prayer is being answered:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

From the same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2130bd18842c13e3
A hoax perpetrated by a clone, more than 6 months ago :-)

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0168fcef73d5713e?

From the same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/01f8276f28a36d55
An obvious Fool's Day joke saying Brian Gene Kelley died, posted on
April 1st :-)

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Containing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y3nbNFir8
A video showing a healthy BMI of 21 (160 lbs) and looking younger than
his being 55 at the time :-)

Proof that Andrew B. Chung's "prayers" of this nature go
unanswered :-)

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD is alive and very well :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/5f88a360d1c8766f

> Meanwhile this physician

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5d41a331208c0306

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/45876ad33454c51e

--
Hunger is starvation:

%

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as long as you answer him and talk about him he will never die

o-o-o

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On Nov 12, 2:02 am est, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
wrote:
> one

Once again, the physician who claims to have an active clinic, is up
at 2 am spamming on Usenet :-)

> whose name's been blotted (Mt25:41

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you
cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his
angels"

Once again, these names were never written in the Book of Life (Rev
3:5) to begin with as is the case with its corresponding verse, Rev
20:15

Now why did Chung switch from Rev 3:5...

> someone whose name has been blotted (Rev3:5)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5b7684e99305945

...To Mt. 25:41? Because Rev 3:5 didn't qualify for what he's trying
to claim. And neither does Mt. 25:41 qualify for what he's trying to
claim. Thus proving Chung's lack of Holy Spirit discernment.

> someone whose name has been blotted (Rev3:5)

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" Rev 3:5

What has failed to discern, is that God is obviously promising that
he will *not* blot out a name from the Book of Life once it's written
there :-)

> &Ps69:28

That one had to be given to Chung by someone else who didn't get it
right; still no Holy Spirit discernment from Chung.

PS 69:28a is Book 1: Let them be blotted out of the book of the living
PS 69:28b is, Book 2: and not be written with the righteous [in the
Lamb's Book of Life].

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be7cf18d9ecd8911

> from His Book(Rev20:15)

"And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the
lake of fire." Rev 20:15

Obviously those names were never written in the Book of Life to begin
with.

Chung’s previous lack of Holy Spirit discernment failed attempt at
this was:

> someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
> of Life.

Mosaic Covenant - Covenant in Moab: Only applicable to Israel under
the Old Covenant.

> from His Book(Deu32:33)

"Their wine is the poison of serpents,
And the cruel venom of cobras."
Nether the verse nor the entire chapter (The Song of Moses) is
applicable.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.messianic.yeshua/msg/ba274bde5f71cbcb

Why does Andrew B. Chung persist staying on this course of folly? The
same reason why he’s stayed on every course of folly he’s been on.
Because of his lack of discernment and his pride.

-

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A Google search of "Andrew Chung Starvation" produced the following:

DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479


Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ...
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23


"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part
of a "Hunger Cult"
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with Ebony
Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

The doctor behind the 'hunger cult' that obsessed a mother who 'starved her
16-year-old daughter to death'
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"It would be far more reasonable to state what is plainly the
Scriptural position - that there is one Book of Life, belonging to the
Lamb, and that it is indeed possible to have one's name blotted out of
it."

Source:
http://bereans.com/bible_studies/the_book_of_life_one_book_o.html

Indeed, behold ...

Hunger is starvation

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On Nov 14, 3:30 am est, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> "It

Once again, the supposedly employed physician with the supposedly
active secret clinic, is still up at 3:30 am spamming Usenet.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Hunger is starvation

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A Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Berry" produced the

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Hunger is starvation

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A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> an eternally accursed soul

“Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for
in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself" Romans 2:1

> [Andrew's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.

“For a good tree does not bear bad fruit" Matthew 7:18

> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and
thrown into the fire.” Luke 3:9

Hunger is starvation

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The false-christian crackpot's internet attention has withered away like the
fig
tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

From, Pastor John MacArthur an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once it's
written there :-)

> Behold
> http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Behold the bug-eyed stammering false-christian crackpot admitting "The ones
who disagree with me the most... who are against me the most, are actual
Christians".

> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

True, as proven by an atheist saying it to make fun of this
misinterpretation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Here's a more correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 12:3
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b0dacd14600c2ad

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"

The false-christian crackpot unwitting confession that he's been taken
captive by the devil.

> This physician has not made that claim
> for he is not a Bible teacher

Nor does he interpret Scripture correctly and he acknowledges by confessing:
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"

> Any born-again Bible teacher who truthfully says they
> are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
> who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

LOL This is the sort of gobbledygook that's gotten him expelled from true
Christian fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> "Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'"

Yes, just like the atheist in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOQ9-LTbos

Once again, unscriptural unorthodox mixed up gobbledygook - but some might
say that he appears demon possessed.

> Suggested additional
> reading:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.prayer/msg/247e2dab00dfacb5

Indeed :-).

> **and**
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/49952be24bf566c1
>
> > Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> > Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> > ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
>
> Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
> do.

Nice try, but: "In order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not
unaware of his schemes." 2 Corinthians 2:11

> (2 Timothy 3:13).
> "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and
> being deceived."

Except for the elect who see them for what they are and expel them:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
> LORD" as seen on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqI1J4hNu3E

The infinitive > irregular verb > "is" doesn't exist in Koine Greek: "oudeis
dynatai eipein KYRIOS IESOUS ei me en pneumati hagio": "no one can say Lord
Jesus if not in Spirit Holy"
http://biblos.com/1_corinthians/12-3.htm
The parrot did indeed say, "KYRIOS IESOUS" i.e. "Jesus Lord"

> For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Truth is simply reality

Yep.

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6
> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote
> 1 Corinthians 12:3b.

As demonstrated here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

There goes the false-christian crackpot cursing Christians again <sigh>...

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

From the same thread:
Brian Gene Kelley wrote:
> > This is a hoax started by a clone.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2130bd18842c13e3

> This prayer is being answered:
CBK wrote:
> > Mr. Rod,
> > I'm pretty sure that my dad was playing an April Fool's joke on some
> > kook who believes God kills people for him on April Fool's Day.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/01f8276f28a36d55

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Containing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y3nbNFir8

A video showing a healthy BMI of 21 (160 lbs) and looking younger than his
being 55 at the time :-)

Proof that Andrew's prayers of this nature go unanswered and that he
completely lacks discernment.

Brian Gene Kelley is alive and very well :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/5f88a360d1c8766f

> Meanwhile this physician

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5d41a331208c0306

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/45876ad33454c51e

--
Hunger is starvation:

A Google search for the word "hunger" in conjunction with the word
"starvation" produced these synonymous results:

Uirgil

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In article
<a3ab22c4-9cfe-4dd0...@a14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>
> Indeed, behold ...
>
> one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> > tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason
>
> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Why?

Ask Chung what Markea Blakely-Berry thinks about hunger and starvation!

Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:29:32 -0800, " o.-~`*`~-.\)O\(.-~`*`~-.o"
<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Yes, it does.

>Everything Andrew B. Chung writes regarding the Markea Berry case 'can and
>will be held against him' - Miranda warning.
>______________________________________________________________________________________________
>
>"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" seeming to have gone completely insane wrote:
>
>> Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
>> with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
>> families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
>> avenge. -- Dr. Crackpot posing as God.
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fbc3a51527114d2
>
>Sadly, more stuff for people to forward as they see fit to:
>
>Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
>cobbcounty.org
>
>And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.
>
>Cobb County, GA District Attorney
>http://www.cobbda.com/
>
>FBI - Atlanta
>http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/
>
>Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
>Alabama.
>http://www.albme.org/complaint.html
>
>Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
>http://www.centralstatehospital.org/
--

Hunger is starvation

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The false-christian crackpot's internet attention has withered away like the
fig
tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

From, Pastor John MacArthur an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once it's
written there :-)

> Behold
> http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Behold the bug-eyed stammering false-christian crackpot admitting "The ones
who disagree with me the most... who are against me the most, are actual
Christians".

> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

True, as proven by an atheist saying it to make fun of this
misinterpretation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Here's a more correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 12:3
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b0dacd14600c2ad

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"

The false-christian crackpot unwitting confession that he's been taken
captive by the devil.

> This physician has not made that claim
> for he is not a Bible teacher

Nor does he interpret Scripture correctly and he acknowledges by confessing:
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"

> Any born-again Bible teacher who truthfully says they
> are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
> who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

LOL This is the sort of gobbledygook that's gotten him expelled from true
Christian fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> "Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'"

Yes, just like the atheist in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOQ9-LTbos

Once again, unscriptural unorthodox mixed up gobbledygook - but some might
say that he appears demon possessed.

> Suggested additional
> reading:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.prayer/msg/247e2dab00dfacb5

Indeed :-).

> **and**
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/49952be24bf566c1
>
> > Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> > Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> > ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
>
> Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
> do.

Nice try, but: "In order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not
unaware of his schemes." 2 Corinthians 2:11

> (2 Timothy 3:13).
> "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and
> being deceived."

Except for the elect who see them for what they are and expel them:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
> LORD" as seen on YouTube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqI1J4hNu3E

The infinitive > irregular verb > "is" doesn't exist in Koine Greek: "oudeis
dynatai eipein KYRIOS IESOUS ei me en pneumati hagio": "no one can say Lord
Jesus if not in Spirit Holy"
http://biblos.com/1_corinthians/12-3.htm
The parrot did indeed say, "KYRIOS IESOUS" i.e. "Jesus Lord"

> For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Truth is simply reality

Yep.

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6
> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote
> 1 Corinthians 12:3b.

Hunger is starvation

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Brian Gene Kelley wrote:

> A false-christian crackpot wrote:
>
> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons don't have mouths for they are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because earlier the crackpot proclaimed:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Then the crackpot switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> ...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

Some might say he certainly appears demon possessed :-)

Hunger is starvation

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A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> an eternally accursed soul

“Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

Hunger is starvation

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A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> an eternally accursed soul

�Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in
whatever you judge another you condemn yourself" Romans 2:1

> [Andrew's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance
> on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.

�For a good tree does not bear bad fruit" Matthew 7:18

> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.� Luke 3:9

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Hunger is starvation

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"Hunger is starvation" <z...@cbgb.net> wrote in message
news:b442b1a1-5012-4342...@n2g2000pbp.googlegroups.com...

Hunger is starvation

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A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> an eternally accursed soul

�Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in
whatever you judge another you condemn yourself" Romans 2:1

> [Andrew's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance
> on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.

�For a good tree does not bear bad fruit" Matthew 7:18

> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.� Luke 3:9

Hunger is starvation

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Hunger is starvation

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Nov 18, 2012, 8:01:19 AM11/18/12
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The false-christian crackpot's internet attention has withered away like the
fig tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

From, Pastor John MacArthur an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once it's
written there :-)

> Behold
> http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Behold the bug-eyed stammering false-christian crackpot admitting "The ones
who disagree with me the most... who are against me the most, are actual
Christians".

> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

True, as proven by an atheist saying it to make fun of this
misinterpretation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Here's a more correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 12:3
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b0dacd14600c2ad

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"

The false-christian crackpot unwitting confession that he's been taken
captive by the devil.

> This physician has not made that claim
> for he is not a Bible teacher

Nor does he interpret Scripture correctly and he acknowledges by confessing:
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"

> Any born-again Bible teacher who truthfully says they
> are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
> who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

LOL This is the sort of gobbledygook that's gotten him expelled from true
Christian fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> "Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'"

Yes, just like the atheist in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

Hunger is starvation

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Nov 18, 2012, 8:05:41 AM11/18/12
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The false-christian crackpot's internet attention has withered away like the
fig tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

From, Pastor John MacArthur an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once it's
written there :-)

> Behold
> http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Behold the bug-eyed stammering false-christian crackpot admitting "The ones
who disagree with me the most... who are against me the most, are actual
Christians".

> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.
>
> Lie.

True, as proven by an atheist saying it to make fun of this
misinterpretation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Here's a more correct interpretation of 1 Corinthians 12:3
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4b0dacd14600c2ad

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"

The false-christian crackpot unwitting confession that he's been taken
captive by the devil.

> This physician has not made that claim
> for he is not a Bible teacher

Nor does he interpret Scripture correctly and he acknowledges by confessing:
"The ones who disagree with me the most... who are against me
the most, are actual Christians"

> Any born-again Bible teacher who truthfully says they
> are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
> who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

LOL This is the sort of gobbledygook that's gotten him expelled from true
Christian fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6fa82099ce86eb

> "Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'"

Yes, just like the atheist in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnl6ucHnSE

Even demons can say "Jesus is Lord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

> Demons are non-corporeal.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/154e8c3cb58c570c?hl=en

That must be a lie because:

> It is most assuredly, without doubt, a corporeal demon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1c84182c553f6fbd?hl=en

Switches to yet another lie:

> Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD"
> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

Hunger is starvation

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A psycho false-christian crackpot wrote in vain:

> May [Andrew's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
>
> [Crackpot's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance
> on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.
>
> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Dr. Jesus" <bellyfl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=251415
> Chunk apparently doesn't want people to see this. All the more reason
> to watch.

There's one thing to keep in mind regarding this type of person; in his mind
he is always right. *Always*. That's why he publishes a letter form his
superior telling him he was fired for being unfit. In his mind they were
wrong, they were unfit, they were all at fault. Everyone was in the wrong,
except for him.

Same goes for the voice-mail he posted from a church banning him from
returning. Again, in his mind, he did nothing wrong. He was 100% right. It's
all of them who were wrong, they were unfit, they were at fault. Everyone is
wrong, except for him.

He says pointblank in the interview, that the people who disagree with him
the most, who are against him the most, are actual Christians regarding his
gobbledygook interpretations. But once again, that's because in his mind, he
is right and all of them are wrong.

This is because, apparently in his mind he has convinced himself that his
every thought comes to him directly from God. Therefore since God can't be
wrong about anything, then neither can he be wrong about anything.
Apparently in his mind, to disagree with him is to disagree with God
Himself.

Apparently in his mind, when you're listening to that video, you are
listening to God Himself speaking directly through him.

It's all summed up in this short message from Dr. Gene Getz :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

Or in this one from pastor Tommy Bertoli:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

Gene Getz:
http://ccbt.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=12

Tommy Bertoli: http://www.tommybertoli.com/

Note in the second message how Bertoli talks about arrogance and then do a
Google groups search for how often he has been called arrogant. There's so
much of what both Getz and Bertoli say, that seems to so directly apply to
the false-christian crackpot it's as if they are specifically talking about
him . And basically that's pretty much exactly what they are doing, sadly
enough.

It gives one an exact blueprint of the sort of individual you're dealing
with when it comes to the false-christian crackpot thus far.

Those messages. Combined with his self published letter of termination and
his self published verbal banishment from an ordinary mainstream orthodox
Christian fellowship, pretty much seems to tell you all you need to know
about him in a nutshell.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0155115b8f5508a8

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f2992b2eebc1081

--
Hunger is starvation.

Hunger is starvation

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A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> an eternally accursed soul

�Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in
whatever you judge another you condemn yourself" Romans 2:1

> [Andrew's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance
> on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.

�For a good tree does not bear bad fruit" Matthew 7:18

> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire.� Luke 3:9

Hunger is starvation

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More proof that false-christian crackpot claims of discernment are
completely false:

"A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
>
> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

From the same thread:
Brian Gene Kelley wrote:
> > This is a hoax started by a clone.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2130bd18842c13e3

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0168fcef73d5713e?

From the same thread:
CBK wrote:
> > Mr. Rod,
> > I'm pretty sure that my dad was playing an April Fool's joke on some
> > kook who believes God kills people for him on April Fool's Day.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/01f8276f28a36d55

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Containing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y3nbNFir8

A video showing a healthy BMI of 21 (160 lbs) and looking younger than his
being 55 at the time :-)

Proof that false-christian crackpot's prayers of this nature go unanswered
and that he completely lacks discernment.

Brian Gene Kelley is alive and very well :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/5f88a360d1c8766f

Why does the false-christian crackpot persist staying on this course of
folly? The same reason why he�s stayed on every course of folly he�s been
on. Because of his apparent lack of discernment and his pride.

Which is the same reason why he got fired:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c76e3e39ae96abb4

Which is the same reason why he was evicted from a church:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/696af5851a414ee3

Which is the same reason why he was arrested:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43c54ad99711bfc3

_____________

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

From:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

By: Pastor John MacArthur an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

A false-christian crackpot not in the Holy Spirit wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

> Indeed, behold ...

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once
it's
written there (see above).

A false-christian crackpot not in the Holy Spirit wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted (Deu29:20)

"the Lord will blot out their names from under heaven" (Deu29:20)

Again, a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once
it's
written there (see above).

A false-christian crackpot not in the Holy Spirit wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted (Mt25:41)

No mention of being blotted from the Book of Life in that verse.

> someone whose name has been blotted (Ps69:28)

"Let them be blotted out of the book of the living" (Ps 69:28)

The Old Covenant book of the living in Ps 69:28, is not the New
Covenant Book of Life in Rev 3:5.

His other reference for this is Rev 20:15, which is about names that
were never written in the Book Of Life to begin with.

And Deu 32:33, which has nothing to do with the Book of Life
whatsoever.

For someone who claims Holy Spirit discernment, the false-christian
crackpot sure changes gears a lot.
His changing gears is based on poorly conducted Google searches and
clearly taking Bible verses out of context.
If he attended regular Bible studies, he might have a better
understanding, but he keeps getting himself evicted from Christian
fellowships (see below).

Why does the false-christian crackpot persist staying on this course
of folly? The same reason why he’s stayed on every course of folly
he’s ever been on. Because of his lack of discernment, being out of
touch with reality and his pride.

Which is the same reason why he gets evicted from Christian
fellowships:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/696af5851a414ee3
Which is the same reason why he got arrested:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43c54ad99711bfc3

Hunger is starvation

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"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

From:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

By: Pastor John MacArthur, an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

> blotted (Rev3:5)

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

Obviously a promise that his name will *not* be blotted out once it's
written there :-)

The false-christian crackpot's internet attention has withered away
like the fig tree in Matthew 21:19 and much for the same reason.

> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Seems doubtful there ever was a blessing to begin with.
But he has managed to gain some new attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa1e56befc127f7a

> May [crackpot's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

There goes the false-christian crackpot cursing Christians again
<sigh>...

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

From the same thread:
Brian Gene Kelley wrote:
> > This is a hoax started by a clone.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2130bd18842c13e3

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0168fcef73d5713e?

From the same thread:
CBK wrote:
> > Mr. Rod,
> > I'm pretty sure that my dad was playing an April Fool's joke on some
> > kook who believes God kills people for him on April Fool's Day.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/01f8276f28a36d55

> This prayer is being answered:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Containing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y3nbNFir8

A video showing a healthy BMI of 21 (160 lbs) and looking younger than
his being 55 at the time :-)

Proof that Andrew's prayers of this nature go unanswered and that he
completely lacks discernment.

Brian Gene Kelley is alive and very well :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/5f88a360d1c8766f

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Hunger is starvation

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"You can never be blotted out from the Book of Life.
If your name is written in the Book of Life, it's there forever"

From:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

By: Pastor John MacArthur, an in-depth Bible teacher.
http://www.gty.org/connect/biography

A false-christian crackpot not in the Holy Spirit wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" (Rev 3:5).

> Indeed, behold ...

Obviously a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once
it's written there (see above).

A false-christian crackpot not in the Holy Spirit wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted (Deu29:20)

"the Lord will blot out their names from under heaven" (Deu29:20)

Again, a promise that someone's name will *not* be blotted out once
it's

Virgil

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In article
<322059ef-dfd0-4ab7...@r13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> > Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> > tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason
>
> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Just like Chung's withering!

Anyone who would viciously attack a virtuous person like Keith Ayoob for
supporting children's education, the way Chung is doing, is clearly
doing the devil's work!
--


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>

A false-christian crackpot wrote:

> > > "I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!"
>
> > Ask Chung what Markea Blakely-Berry thinks about hunger and starvation!
>
> > Oh, wait.
>
> > He can't.
>
> Lie.
.
> This physician can do **all** things

Except sleep at night:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/50a1586a17668cf6

Virgil

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In article
<71bbd580-39e0-4e94...@bq2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> > Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> > tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason
>
> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Just like it did for Chung!
--


Hunger is fatal

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On Nov 29, 3:09 pm, "James R." <tw...@ipi.com> wrote:
> the only ones posting here are Chung and some trolls. So, let’s just let Chung post away in this dead NG and just ignore him or remove this NG from your files. That’s all he has. And watching him post the same old shit everyday with no one watching or responding...well, that would be heaven to me.....IGNORE HIM!!!!

Okay.

Shut The Fuck Up Virgil

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YOU'RE LOONIE AS CHUNG

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In article <k99rbs$jd1$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Shut The Fuck Up Virgil" <stfuv...@stfu.org> wrote:

> SHUT THE FUCK UP VIRGIL
> YOU'RE LOONIE AS CHUNG

PLONK!
--


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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> > Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> > tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason
>
> The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
> blessing

Any Lord seeing Chung's asinine arrogance would lose interest in him.
--


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 15, 2013, 2:31:22 AM1/15/13
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No such date.

-=-=-=-=-=-
Atheists have no invisible means
of support

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 15, 2013, 6:37:10 AM1/15/13
to
"It would be far more reasonable to state what is plainly the
Scriptural position - that there is one Book of Life, belonging to the
Lamb, and that it is indeed possible to have one's name blotted out of
it."

Source:
http://bereans.com/bible_studies/the_book_of_life_one_book_o.html

Indeed, behold ...

one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:

> Andy, no threat this time that the starved-to-death little girl's
> ghost you supposedly conjured up, is going to murder my children for
> you?

Just as GOD doesn't know you, we, who are Jesus'
http://WDJW.net/Disciples (Matthew 28:19-20) don't know you either.

> > This **physician** ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) would not have been
> > interviewed on network television for an hour were he a nut case

**emphasis** added.

> Charles Manson's network television interview (1:01:42)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSqeZw4NBIM
>
> Jeffrey Dahmer's network television interview (1:28:55)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMBfX7D4WU
>
> Ted Bundy's network television interview (54:09)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64bxvBr_pAE
>
> Son Of Sam's network television interview (55:10)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SahsahfZuxY

Again, no **physician** with an active medical license would be
interviewed for more than an hour on network television were he a
nutcase. Truth is simply reality which perishing souls like you and
satan really hate.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e484a76eae61abef?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 15, 2013, 12:07:57 PM1/15/13
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http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)

Pharisee {unable to say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth (Romans 10:9)}
one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
despairingly asked:

>Andy, what have you been doing for income since your clinic closed
>down and your cardiology certification expired?

This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is
known by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy
Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark
16:18) heart disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD
equivalent, while giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)

Bottom line concerning http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew being perfect
(Matthew 5:48):

GOD-sanctification is infinitely greater than board-certification for
He makes the latter eternal :-)

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e484a76eae61abef?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 17, 2013, 5:09:24 AM1/17/13
to
"It would be far more reasonable to state what is plainly the
Scriptural position - that there is one Book of Life, belonging to the
Lamb, and that it is indeed possible to have one's name blotted out of
it."

Source:
http://bereans.com/bible_studies/the_book_of_life_one_book_o.html

Indeed, behold ...
one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
desperately insists:

> Mary Tyler Moore has always had diabetes

Lie.

No one is born with diabetes.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcad4bb2d99bae4e?

The youngest type-2 diabetic on record is 5 years old:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/8111.php

Truth is simply reality, which the accursed (Galatians 1:8-9) like you
and satan really hate.

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.

> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
> Corinthians 12:3b.

Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD continue to ever so severely curse (Galatians 1:8-9) you and
all around you to the Nth generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other
than the one we preached to you, let them be under GOD’s curse! As we
have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you
a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under GOD’s curse!"
(Galatians 1:8-9)

"Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared
for the devil and his angels" -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew
25:41)

one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
despairingly asked:

>Andy, what have you been doing for income since your clinic closed
>down and your cardiology certification expired?

This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is
known by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy
Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark
16:18) heart disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD
equivalent, while giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:

Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD
as the
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him to
hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 7, 2013, 9:44:13 PM2/7/13
to
"It would be far more reasonable to state what is plainly the
Scriptural position - that there is one Book of Life, belonging to the
Lamb, and that it is indeed possible to have one's name blotted out of
it."

Source:
http://bereans.com/bible_studies/the_book_of_life_one_book_o.html

Indeed, behold ...
one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
desperately insists:

> Mary Tyler Moore has always had diabetes

Lie.

No one is born with diabetes.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcad4bb2d99bae4e?

The youngest type-2 diabetic on record is 5 years old:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/8111.php

Moreover, Mary Tyler Moore, acquired her diabetes at age 33 as a
consequence of overconsuming alcohol (liquid food) which does cause
liver visceral adipose tissue (VAT):

"Moore, 74, was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes, formerly called
juvenile diabetes, when (she) was 33..."

Source:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mary-tyler-moore-undergoes-brain-surgery-meningioma-tumor/story?id=13589156
And clearly you are accursed:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e65bc98b85f573f3?

one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
despairingly asked:

>Andy, what have you been doing for income since your clinic closed
>down and your cardiology certification expired?

This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is
known by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy
Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark
16:18) heart disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD
equivalent, while giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:

Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD
as the http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger
(Luke 6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him
to hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)

Bottom line concerning http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew being perfect
(Matthew 5:48):

GOD-sanctification (1 Thessalonians 5:23) is infinitely greater than
board-certification for He makes the latter eternal (1 Corinthians
2:9) without need for eternal fee payments to ABIM :-)

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e484a76eae61abef?

Reg Griswold

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:04:33 PM2/8/13
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The Seven Stages of Disease
http://hubpages.com/hub/7-Stages-of-Disease
"I first read this in an extremely informative and common sense book
on health and nutrition: Fit for Life: A New Beginning by Harvey
Diamond. I later found a similar article by Walt Edwards, Ph.D. - aka
Dr. Health. This hub combines and condenses what I've learned from
both.

Disease never sneaks up on people and strikes them down. It takes a
long time and a great deal of neglect and abuse of the body for
disease to finally occur. From the first stage of disease to the
seventh (i.e. cancer), many years may elapse. At any stage you can
stop the disease's process and simultaneously end all the aches pains,
and ill health which were the body's warning signs that changes needed
to be made or the situation would deteriorate further.

During any of the first six stages, if the cause of the problem is
removed, pain stops, the disease process stops, and health returns. If
drugs are employed to quell the discomfort (the usual course of
action), the cause remains unchecked, the disease process continues
(even though the drugs may mask the pain, giving the false impression
that the situation is improving), and the next stage inevitably
occurs.

In order to better understand the disease process, it's important to
understand how it progresses in various stages beginning with mild
symptoms and ending in a full-blown crisis. The following are the
seven stages of disease:

1. ENERVATION
2. TOXEMIA
3. IRRITATION
4. INFLAMMATION
5. ULCERATION
6. INDURATION
7. CANCER

In this final stage there is a cellular disorder from repeated free
radical hits on the genetic material, damaging DNA during replication,
transcription, and translation of the new cell generation. This
inevitably leads to cell proliferation and cell mutation of tissue
growth to a morbid state. It is the final stage in which cells no
longer renew themselves and form cancerous mutations. Doing a live
blood analysis with a high-powered microscope will easily detect
yeast, fungus, mold and cancer cells."

Reg

Reg Griswold

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:14:59 PM2/8/13
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On Feb 9, 9:04 am, Reg Griswold <reg5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Seven Stages of Diseasehttp://hubpages.com/hub/7-Stages-of-Disease

Fiscal Cliff

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Feb 8, 2013, 5:25:57 PM2/8/13
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 8, 2013, 6:48:59 PM2/8/13
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "I'm starving!"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/e55df55a119465c1?

>
> I don't know why. Had my usual whole wheat toast for breakfast. BG was not
> so good then. 181 before and 258 after. But it had dropped to 121 before
> dinner. Had a brown rice casserole with ground beef and tons of veggies in
> it. BG was 134 after. So slightly higher than it should be but not a
> concern. This was on the lower dose of insulin. Will lower the breakfast
> insulin tomorrow. But...
>
> I am starving!

No you are not.

> Why?

Because starving people are dying from **weeks** of not eating and
dying people can't eat (i.e. are not hungry) much less type and post
on Usenet.

> Could it be that I am now digesting my food?

Being hungry means being able to digest food.

> I just don't know.

You are suffering terribly from the "hunger is starvation" (Genesis
25:32) delusion which scrambles the mind:

"I'm starving! I think I'm gonna die!" -- Julie Bove

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/15d86f761b4881e2?

> Ate a handful of peanuts. Didn't quell the hunger.

That which kills the hunger would be killing you.

If you were to increase the amount of peanuts to 100 lbs, it would
likely kill the hunger and you.

> So I ate a bowl of little dill pickles and a few black olives. Still hungry. Grrr...

Yes, your "hunger is starvation" delusion is what caused you to have
type-2 diabetes from the outset.

Indeed, only the truth (John 14:6) can cure you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a81a73f828c35ae2?

Being hungrier really is wonderfully healthier and is not starvation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

So don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?
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