Re: [News] [Rival] Microsoft is Dying in Debt... Shuts Down MSN Encarta
Terry Porter
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> Important Notice: MSN Encarta to be Discontinued
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> | On October 31, 2009, MSN® Encarta® Web sites worldwide will be
> | discontinued, with the exception of Encarta Japan, which will be
> | discontinued on December 31, 2009. Additionally, Microsoft will cease to
> | sell Microsoft Student and Encarta Premium software products worldwide
> | by June 2009. We understand that Encarta users may have questions
> | regarding this announcement so we have prepared this list of questions
> | and answers below. Please keep reading if you would like more
> | information about these changes to Encarta.
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>
> http://encarta.msn.com/guide_page_FAQ/FAQ.html
The windows trolls here on COLA can't believe MS could ever die.
They're like the people living near in Pompei just before Mt Vesuvius
erupted:-
hadrongus "Nah will never happen, it hasn't erupted yet, and I should know
for I'm a volcano expert !"
dfsrius "look at all those Linuxulus losers all leaving, loosers!, loosers!,
what a bunch of pussies nyah,nyah seeya suckers"
exekooklus "I'm adding a new temple to my house for a statue of the God
Billgateous !"
Flatfishius "Look at those nice empty Linuxulus Villas, they're much nicer,
and far more complete than my old cheap rundown Windowsius tenement, I'm
moving into one!"
--
If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
amicus_curious
"Terry Porter" <lin...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:_f-dnTjAEO-lEEzU...@netspace.net.au...
>
> The windows trolls here on COLA can't believe MS could ever die.
>
old product that is not selling very well anymore. What do you use for an
encyclopedia? That's a clue.
You can't get Win98 or WinMe or Win2000 anymore either, but that isn't any
sign of MS dying. Far from it. They are just moving into larger and more
profitable areas.
Amaat Pieleman
news:49d24c71$0$32040$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com...
>
> "Terry Porter" <lin...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
> news:_f-dnTjAEO-lEEzU...@netspace.net.au...
>>
>> The windows trolls here on COLA can't believe MS could ever die.
>>
> You seem to miss the point here.
Terry always misses the point! (Terry Porter: not the sharpest knife in the
drawer, he's more like a bent spoon)
Doctor Smith
> Terry always misses the point! (Terry Porter: not the sharpest knife in the
> drawer, he's more like a bent spoon)
The understatement of the year.
If Terry Porter was a passenger in a helicopter that was flying by Mount
Rushmore, he would look out the window and say something like "isn't that
an igneous rock laying on the ground over there by that walla walla tree?"
Homer
^^^^ This day can't come soon enough ^^^
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Roy Schestowitz
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____/ Homer on Saturday 04 April 2009 03:58 : \____
> Important Notice: Microsoft Windows to be Discontinued
>
> ^^^^ This day can't come soon enough ^^^
Office will be discontinued when they finish making an online version (and
never figure how to monetise it).
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High Plains Thumper
> Homer on Saturday:
>
>> Important Notice: Microsoft Windows to be Discontinued
>>
>> ^^^^ This day can't come soon enough ^^^
>
> Office will be discontinued when they finish making an online
> version (and never figure how to monetise it).
IMHO, they are a strickly for profit shop. This is why that
Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 98SE2, ME, NT, etc. were still buggy even
with the issued patches. This is why that Office still has many
annoyances to the extent that books and websites have popped up
regarding annoyances and work arounds.
Instead of fixing the problems, they pour money into advertising,
FUD, evangelistic sales crusades, etc.
Now that the economy is down, people and businesses are less
willing to pay for "wow!" and are looking for ways to survive the
economy. To illustrate how bad things really are, I looked at
the snacks isle in the grocery section of Wal-Mart. What took up
2 isles is now down to 1, Pringles potato chips now sits on 4 six
foot wide shelves, before it was easily quadruple that.
Prior to McDonnell Douglas Corporation's demise and sale to
Boeing, I saw Douglas Aircraft Company in the early 90's go from
4 IBM mainframes to 1, E-mail and office automation eliminated
with the engineers, only supervisors were permitted that.
Advent of PC's of course make the picture easier to manage.
Ernie Ball wiped all PC's and servers clean with Linux installs,
saved considerably on continued annual licensing fees, increased
productivity by eliminating Windows bundled software
distractions, etc.
In these lean times, I can see especially companies trimming
"Windows FAT" to remain profitable. Because some software is
still only available in Windows versions, those desktops will
remain. However, there are many workers that simply use office
automation software and could make do with "generic"
applications. Those are well suited candidates for Linux.
Companies that migrate their data base access to a standards
based web interface eliminate the need for a proprietary
operating system, browser, and access software. Ditto for a web
based office automation suite.
Best part is there are applications already bundled with Linux
distros, such as Gimp that are extra cost with Windows. How
often have I seen to make do with weak Windows Paint and Office
bundled photo manager because graphics software is at additional
cost, there is no budget, make do with the tools supplied.
In spite of the trollish criticisms toward Gimp by the trolls in
this newsgroup who apparently have never tried it, Gimp is a very
powerful graphics editing software package.
To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
simply a myth.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
Terry Porter
<snip excellent post by hpt>
>
> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
> simply a myth.
>
Well said indeed!
DFS
> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
> simply a myth.
The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
Peter Köhlmann
That is not a myth. It is fact
--
A NT server can be run by idiots and usually is
Snit
on 4/4/09 2:44 AM:
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> Homer on Saturday:
>>
>>> Important Notice: Microsoft Windows to be Discontinued
>>>
>>> ^^^^ This day can't come soon enough ^^^
>>
>> Office will be discontinued when they finish making an online
>> version (and never figure how to monetise it).
>
> IMHO, they are a strickly for profit shop. This is why that
> Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 98SE2, ME, NT, etc. were still buggy even
> with the issued patches. This is why that Office still has many
> annoyances to the extent that books and websites have popped up
> regarding annoyances and work arounds.
>
> Instead of fixing the problems, they pour money into advertising,
> FUD, evangelistic sales crusades, etc.
Have you used Office 2007? I am *not* saying it is without its bugs and
quirks, it *clearly* has them, but MS put a lot of resources into the UI to
make features more discoverable for the general user. They also added a lot
to the program in terms of references, styling, and more.
> Now that the economy is down, people and businesses are less
> willing to pay for "wow!" and are looking for ways to survive the
> economy. To illustrate how bad things really are, I looked at
> the snacks isle in the grocery section of Wal-Mart. What took up
> 2 isles is now down to 1, Pringles potato chips now sits on 4 six
> foot wide shelves, before it was easily quadruple that.
>
> Prior to McDonnell Douglas Corporation's demise and sale to
> Boeing, I saw Douglas Aircraft Company in the early 90's go from
> 4 IBM mainframes to 1, E-mail and office automation eliminated
> with the engineers, only supervisors were permitted that.
>
> Advent of PC's of course make the picture easier to manage.
> Ernie Ball wiped all PC's and servers clean with Linux installs,
> saved considerably on continued annual licensing fees, increased
> productivity by eliminating Windows bundled software
> distractions, etc.
>
> In these lean times, I can see especially companies trimming
> "Windows FAT" to remain profitable. Because some software is
> still only available in Windows versions, those desktops will
> remain. However, there are many workers that simply use office
> automation software and could make do with "generic"
> applications. Those are well suited candidates for Linux.
Some will make do with Linux of necessity... sure. Linux has the clear
benefit of having a lower entry cost.
> Companies that migrate their data base access to a standards
> based web interface eliminate the need for a proprietary
> operating system, browser, and access software. Ditto for a web
> based office automation suite.
>
> Best part is there are applications already bundled with Linux
> distros, such as Gimp that are extra cost with Windows. How
> often have I seen to make do with weak Windows Paint and Office
> bundled photo manager because graphics software is at additional
> cost, there is no budget, make do with the tools supplied.
>
> In spite of the trollish criticisms toward Gimp by the trolls in
> this newsgroup who apparently have never tried it, Gimp is a very
> powerful graphics editing software package.
Compared to Paint, sure!
> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
> simply a myth.
You might not like it (I know I do not), but companies often share MS Office
docs. OpenOffice just is not good enough at being compatible... not is
Apple's iWork.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
6:18 AM:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
>>> simply a myth.
>>
>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>
> That is not a myth. It is fact
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most businesses it
is not.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Ezekiel
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> In spite of the trollish criticisms toward Gimp by the trolls in
> this newsgroup who apparently have never tried it, Gimp is a very
> powerful graphics editing software package.
>
Nice job choosing your words very carefully. You wrote that Gimp is a
very 'powerful' graphics package. Not that it's good, easy to use or
that the UI makes any sense at all. Because it's none of those things.
It's merely 'powerful' without being very usable.
Doctor Smith
That's just a bold faced lie.
If Openoffice was a suitable replacement for MS Office, it would have
trounced Office by now.
It hasn't.
Downloads don't equal usage.
If they did, Linux would have been way ahead of Microsoft in market share
by now.
Hadron
Until you sign Peter up for an idiots 'net course and teach him how to
open links he will never see the problem.
I find it amazing that despite all the articles linked to, the screen
shots etc that he is STILL claiming OO is a 100% safe replacement for
MSO. The man is dangerous to the community at large.
--
In view of all the deadly computer viruses that have been spreading
lately, Weekend Update would like to remind you: when you link up to
another computer, you’re linking up to every computer that that
computer has ever linked up to. — Dennis Miller
Hadron
Snit
> Snit <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>
>> Peter Köhlmann stated in post gr7mn9$sq2$03$1...@news.t-online.com on 4/4/09
>> 6:18 AM:
>>
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
>>>>> simply a myth.
>>>>
>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>>>
>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>>
>> If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most businesses it
>> is not.
>
> Until you sign Peter up for an idiots 'net course and teach him how to
> open links he will never see the problem.
Well, he claims to have seen the pages but then decided arbitrarily that,
contrary to all evidence, that the data there was "forged". When pushed, he
say that it is evidence of forgery for me to use the newest version of Word
and Writer - that, to him, the only fair thing is for me to use the newest
version of Writer and an older version of Word (even though Writer came out
*after* Word). Even though that is absurd, I did the work to please him and
and the others making such requests... the second link leads to an example
with a DOC file and not a DOCX file. And with the DOCX file, I even posted
Ray's file - which he can check for authenticity - and I converted it to PDF
so it is easier to view how it looks (at least with my version of
OpenOffice).
Seriously: who else in COLA has *ever* gone to such trouble to show support
for a claim? And yet, Peter lashes out and lies about it. He, clearly,
does not show support for his claims at all...
> I find it amazing that despite all the articles linked to, the screen
> shots etc that he is STILL claiming OO is a 100% safe replacement for
> MSO. The man is dangerous to the community at large.
He is angry that he has been proved to be wrong. Look at how he lashes out.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Doctor Smith
Gimp has a horrid UI and just the fact that the developers backed off
changing it in the last incarnation of the program, shows that they haven't
got a clue what the public wants because the UI of Gimp is one of the most
complained about attributes of the program.
Doctor Smith
> Ezekiel <he...@nothere.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 03:44 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> In spite of the trollish criticisms toward Gimp by the trolls in
>>> this newsgroup who apparently have never tried it, Gimp is a very
>>> powerful graphics editing software package.
>>>
>>
>> Nice job choosing your words very carefully. You wrote that Gimp is a
>> very 'powerful' graphics package. Not that it's good, easy to use or
>> that the UI makes any sense at all. Because it's none of those things.
>> It's merely 'powerful' without being very usable.
>>
>>
>>
>
> It has improved a lot. I like it.
It's a good program.
The UI is terrible though.
High Plains Thumper
> Snit writes:
>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>
>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>> Office.
>>>
>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
>> If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
>> businesses it is not.
The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in its
second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127 posters
have to say about Snit:
1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area
and a login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to
e-mail it to you, and a bot will send an e-mail.
*That* is the e-mail Snit got from Sandman's website, and yes
he's that fucked in the head and starved for attention that he'd
claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So, don't get
sucked into his little circus.
The e-mail, in this particular instance, did probably originate
from Sandman.net."
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I
wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the amazing
silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
3- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the
truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep
disrupting the newsgroup."
4- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to
weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole."
5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member of
CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being better than
then, rise above the low level you so obviously dislike.
Anything, just stop...."
6- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If
yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you
set to expire, but it's fixed now."
7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone
else who has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement,
showed it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick
and REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
8- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group
can be if you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more
people don't do the same.."
9- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group,
but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a
decent discussion about anything.
The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some
people just can't stop feeding him."
10- [b]unny: "snit makes me sad."
11- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."
12- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls'
... in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the
idiotrollers like snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I
didn't see his posts, only your reply".
13- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him "shit", and rightly so,
for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the
bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes.
It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk*
him..."
14- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for
you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of
course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter."
15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just
respond to a current message." 22 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a
16- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to
"win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why
must you keep this up? What results are you expecting?"
17- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep
posting your list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will
not address it any further- you being too stupid to realize and
accept that is not my problem".
18- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already
misread what I had previously written. What makes you think that
you're correctly understanding what I'm writting now. You've got
a history of reading into things what you wanted people to have
said instead of what they really said.
I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you
look foolish."
Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost
all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have
so many diverse people who share a common perception where do you
think the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The
answer doesn't require an advanced degree to figure out."
19- Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a
woman, do something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!"
20- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought
you knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was
presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you."
21- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar
and loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me
where i stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal person. i
suppose it's tough for the magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick,
so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop responding to you.
you almost always start responding back in a semi normal way, but
inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time. i can only ask
that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child for
having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well,
if your wife is a loser as well, just pass those condolences to
the rug-rat to be; if not, double condolences to her). "
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the
worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger,
and you've almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you
to post a list of out of context arguments, and lies, and
forgeries about your enemies labled as a "peace effort" has to be
one of the craziest stunts you've pulled. It's all about your
sick need for attention, your need to be center stage at all
times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought it would make
people look at you."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
24- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go
see a doctor."
25- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the
points in my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. How childishly typical of you, Snit."
26- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among
people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I
feel that it is like being in a room of really young children
trying there best to best the other person. The one common thing
among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like this, but
facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a great
percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more
about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all
this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has
always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank
it up to the point that this place is no longer fun.
Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making this place your own
personal circus."
27- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who
uncover his lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are
"proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 01 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d
28- Geoff M. Fitton: "The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n".
29- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the
Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will
drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to
be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up
strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!"
30- gimme_this_gimme_t...@yahoo.com: "Hitting the vodka tonight
Snit?"
31- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else
notices that you are not honest and you have no honor."
32- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont
ever censor people cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix
it I'm gonna have to cause I dont wanna see your
name 40 times in a row. So uh, change your client or something".
33- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your
BS or actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you
keep asking for and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel."
30 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a
34- Henry Flam: "Who gives a damn about this shit? Snit, once in
a while, I make the mistake in thinking that that you are
starting to make sense in your posts; I tend to agree with your
politics. Then you post stuff like this and it destroys any
respect that I have for you."
35- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"
36- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example
of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone who
disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a purposeful
attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only warning to
consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder that you, and
you alone are responsible for that accusation, both in the
ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
37- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick
and tired of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly
statements shifting the goal posts, your continuous rambling
drivel of how everyone seems to be against you. No one cares a
wooden nickel about your incessant flame wars that are self
created. You pretend to be an advocate but you manage to cause
everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f
38- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting the same following message over and over, in false
pretense as a Linux advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least.
I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious
when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill,
and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his
wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of
his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling
and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be
helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
39- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to
offer support for your statements, you're reduced to personal
attacks on me. Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see
that I have offered no straw men, and have only asked you to
explain how the things you state as facts can be true. I'm really
sorry that you're taking this attitude, the topic is an
interesting one and I thought you might have some insights. I've
snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was
just repeated. "
40- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people
on usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and
refresh your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over
and over. Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess."
41- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."
42- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."
43- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't
help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it
detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
a newsgroup such as this."
44- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you
accomplishing besides being annoying? Is that your goal?"
45- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush
mentioned in it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on
topic and not hijack threads."
46- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're
involved in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of
responses to OT things and garbage?"
47- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather
than actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course
I suppose."
48- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
49- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What
are you bitching about?"
50- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more
like a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even
entertain an unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and
lock it up? Please??"
51- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's
postings since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter
his posts, I just consider the source and skip to the next one
when I see his name."
52- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be
shocked that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about
being a computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and
best ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by medication. He's
here to do one thing, get attention from people. He says the
crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what he's
counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes to get a
rise out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't regret it."
John Slade: "Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without
adding drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage to
get out of my killfile? Oh well back into the cage you go, PLONK."
53- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this
posting? Because I certainly cannot find it."
54- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that
even though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll
of the lot is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If the
few stragglers that keep replying to him would just stop
responding to Snit at all this place could be worth coming back
to. There's a good chance he'll pack up and take his trolling to
more fertile ground."
55- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your
sentence with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.'
29 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8
56- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets
of putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support
your position, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and
humming, hoping it'll all go away."
57- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad
hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject
of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always
have been." 14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
58- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid."
59- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long
time, but the few times you post something worth reading just
aren't worth it anymore. *plonk*"
60- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've
been an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the
pretense of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you
in COLA is trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll."
61-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors
CBS News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit
is cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit he's
wrong." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf
62- libsnightmare: "Excellent checkmate and end game for Snit.
He will always be running scared and welcoming to any stranger
willing to listen to his lies." 12 Mar 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/6d137223b0f392e7
63- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."
"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by
that effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574
64- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"
65- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser
is the same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest
now, it would be impossible to determine where the honesty starts
and the usual dishonesty ends. In my primary school, one of the
teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I recall her going over
the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over
now, and I would not come to help him with his sheep, because I
do not know any way of determining if he's ever telling the
truth, or indeed, if he ever has."
66- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life."
67- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone
refutes your "facts", you run away and ignore them. Refuting your
"facts" is easily done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it. "
68- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I
see you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with
everyone. You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a
compliment!"
69- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead
I can only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that
happens to inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware
of how deranged you actually behave further reinforces this
notion. Please seek professional help."
70- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious.
Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on."
71- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they
are off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring
and clearly show that you are crying out for attention."
72- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact
that your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you
claimed to KF him. Killfilling someone generally implies you're
ignoring that person, yet you piggyback onto virtually every
reply to him here and and check his website's validation status
more often than most people check their e-mail. These are not the
actions of a mentally balanced individual."
73- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any
pre-school or kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach
you a thing or two about social behavior."
74- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them
are trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me."
75- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't
convinced that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people
losers, I certainly am now. Why bother responding to his
stupidities anyway?"
76- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry
sense of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just
a waste of time, and you've done more than anybody to make this
group a cesspool. Then you revel in wallowing in your own filth."
77- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling
as children in the back seat of the family car saying:
Mom, 'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do
now ... I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is
that by now you should've grown out of that type of poke and
complain interaction with others. But, of course, you've haven't
learned how to interact with others in a more 'constructive' and
mutually beneficial manner even now."
78- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I
killfiled him?"
79- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and
desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of
things."
80- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher:
Select offending Author, example Snit...
Go to the Filters Menu, Choose "Kill this Author"
Click "OK"
Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice.
Then to see your work...
Choose the Filter Menu again,
Then "Refilter Articles"...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing.
Enjoy!!!!!"
81- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather
discuss something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that
matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully
inadequate?"
82- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> "
83- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone
who talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable"
you appear to be the least honest and honorable of anyone here."
84- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option
with Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing."
85- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take
your argument with sandman into the private room."
86- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and
someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon
he has something useful to say."
87- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were
not different windowing environments? Message-ID, please.
Experience has told me not to trust you on anything without
backing evidence."
88- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as
dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma
posters even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There
are certainly other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no
others are so intent on trolling in whatever way possible as Snot"
89- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu".
90- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."
91- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like
you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to
perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond
in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for
Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what
convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
92- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."
93- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You
trash people that are trying their level best to cope with a
horrendous situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of
what is going on." 06 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b
94- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a
troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as
a troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy."
95- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if
you quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate
perched on the shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out
that you run the risk of looking ridiculous when you quote
something patently stupid. If that's your goal, you're on the
right track, and more power to you."
96- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's
thing is twisting your words so he can win an argument against a
straw man. That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42
97- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux
and how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you
requesting help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an
advocacy group? As the old saying goes, those who can do, those
who can't teach. Your posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO."
12 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08
98- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless.
You must be related to our resident racist troll, he
lies as much as you." 29 Dec 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d
99- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost
hated, in a news group before. He has the ability to turn just
about any person against him in just a few posts. On usenet,
trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is that I
actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll - damn what
-EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are wrong. Only
Tholen himself can match this behaviour."
100- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice.
Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront
made more sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?"
25 May 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370
101- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises
to remove smut from your harddrive."
102- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts
trash just to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1
103- spike1: "The thought is probably to show everyone here just
how bad a troll snit is".
104- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem
expressing anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in
other ways. and he thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is
there and he figures he's pretty smart. indeed, he tells us, he's
done the personality tests and the iq tests and he's okay!
aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."
105- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is
that he has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small
cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll(or worse) by the vast
majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."
106- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of
elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in
the "Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour, and
CSMA begun to smell like elephant dung."
107- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility
with me
for your rediculous argument regarding this."
108- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has
lost all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words
like 'asses' when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally
superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of
your busy schedule to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we
should set up a fund to get him more happy glue (and the
appropriate plastic bags)."
109- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him
then. A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be."
110- Tattoo Vampire: "In other words, in another attempt to
troll, you made yourself look like a fool. Again".
111- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my
killbin, I can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322
112- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're
the one lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically
amount to "I'm right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples
someone points at to demonstrate their claim, you blindly
continue to insist that they provide no evidence, or that the
evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still, you fall back on straw
men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the argument in
your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that inhabit CSMA,
Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than you are. "
113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar."
114- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the
poor sick fool can get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to
hanging out with and supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah.
It is true that no-one likes him and those that pretend they do
are just using him or don't know him - but come on- it's not his
fault. He's sick. Have some compassion, eh? All these idiot
trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are all
so alike. I pity each and every one of them"
115- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way
you could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to
troll here."
116- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"
117- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into
one of your Circus acts?"
118- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was:
Stop polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive
"writings". You give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your
goal you have succeeded! That also goes for all that bullshit on
your website"
119- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with
Snit. Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't
mostly restrict their responses to 'why don't you go away, no one
wants you here'. Just what would keep someone in this group with
all of that animosity? Must be some kind of severe mental illness."
120- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty"
are nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you
wish to define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to
alter or bend the rules when inevitably things do not go to your
liking, for this reason I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to
play your game."
121- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home
more than he's anywhere near a classroom".
122- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental
breakdown it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser.
What a f#cked up mess he is'.
123- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're
the first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-) "
124- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"
125- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of
posts, to prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like
that to people without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in
the record. Ping Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and
give meaning to his tawdry little life."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538
126- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile. No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye".
127- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to
draw more people into the debate I'm currently having with
Steve/Elizabot/etc' tactic is fairly trollish."
--
HPT
Snit
8:16 AM:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Snit writes:
>>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>>
>>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>>> Office.
>>>>
>>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>
> Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
> several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
> Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
> Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
Check the files I used. Ray did. First he lied and claimed they were fine,
but he finally admitted they were not and even proved it by sending me his
output.
You simply cannot accept reality.
>>> If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
>>> businesses it is not.
>
> The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue.
You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to quote Steve
Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to think that says something
about me is literally insane. It does speak volumes about you and Carroll.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
8:16 AM:
> Hadron wrote:
>> Snit writes:
>>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>>
>>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>>> Office.
>>>>
>>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>
> Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
> several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
> Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
> Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
I just noticed you changed the subject line and cross posted this thread!
Seriously, what is wrong with you? This is all because I proved that
OpenOffice has problem with MS Word files.... why is this so offensive to
you that you would freak out like you did? Weird...
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Doctor Smith
The truth hurts idiots like High Plains Thumper which is why he spews that
same old boring crap over and over again.
There is not a cell of originality in his pea sized cranium.
Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.
Snit
4/4/09 9:55 AM:
His actions are beyond bizarre... it is not like I made *anything* even
approaching an attack against *him*. I showed some solid examples of OO
handling Word files poorly... and he clearly was deeply offended by this.
Why would he take it personally? That is just not sane.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
4/4/09 9:56 AM:
I do not care about his sexuality, but his taking offense at my giving
examples of OO dealing poorly with Word files is just bizarre. It would be
like me getting all bent out of shape and lashing out against someone if
they showed that Pages does not handle Word files as well as needed for many
businesses. It does not.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Doctor Smith
Neither do I, however it seems to be a very *sore* point with him whenever
it is brought up.
Hadron
> Hadron wrote:
>> Snit writes:
>>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>>
>>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>>> Office.
>>>>
>>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>
> Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
So called? There are many documented consistency issues with the average
Linux desktop UI. It's common knowledge and is being addressed ny amogst
others the Gnome and KDE development teams in addition to efforts by the
likes of Mark Shuttleworth and his Ubuntu team. Why do you take it so
personally? Why are you such an idiot?
> several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
> Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
> Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
>
No one cares what YOU did. Not that anyone believes you anyway. The
facts are in the links above. Documents are not 100% compatible - end of
story.
You're simply insane to think its an attack on Linux to want to improve
it.
Snit
4/4/09 10:02 AM:
>>>> You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to quote Steve
>>>> Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to think that says something
>>>> about me is literally insane. It does speak volumes about you and Carroll.
>>>
>>> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
>>> Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
>>>
>>> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.
>>
>> I do not care about his sexuality, but his taking offense at my giving
>> examples of OO dealing poorly with Word files is just bizarre. It would be
>> like me getting all bent out of shape and lashing out against someone if
>> they showed that Pages does not handle Word files as well as needed for many
>> businesses. It does not.
>
> Neither do I, however it seems to be a very *sore* point with him whenever
> it is brought up.
He takes offense at my proving OO deals with MS Word files poorly... seems
all of life is a "sort point" for him.
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Doctor Smith
I don't know.
All I can say is that High Plains Thumper acts like a very sick person with
deep rooted anger and hostility.
He really should seek professional counseling.
Maybe [Homer] and HPT can get a group discount?
Hadron
He, like William Poaster, is insane. Simple. Don't look for further
reasons. He, like Poaster, is a millstone around the neck of Linux
advocacy and acceptance. Can you imagine Jorge Schilling or Linus
shreaking "liar" everytime someone pointed out a bug? And to think these
real developers actually get called "cunts" and "fuckheads" by Chris
Ahlstrom who took it on himself to review Jorg's C ... The same Chris
Ahlstrom that advocated using casts to hide warnings about incompatible
implicit casts. LOL. He sure got made to look a fool on that one - I
dont think he realised it was cross posted to comp.lang.c.
Doctor Smith
> High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> Snit writes:
>>>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>>>> Office.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>>>
>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>>
>> Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
>
> So called? There are many documented consistency issues with the average
> Linux desktop UI. It's common knowledge and is being addressed ny amogst
> others the Gnome and KDE development teams in addition to efforts by the
> likes of Mark Shuttleworth and his Ubuntu team. Why do you take it so
> personally? Why are you such an idiot?
In the Linux community, COLA, Linux "just works" for the freetards.
The links that DFS posts is more than enough proof that Linux has some very
severe problems.
Like I've said before, I would love to see these loons in COLA go into the
Ubuntu forums and claim "works for me".
They would be run out of the group.
>
>> several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
>> Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
>> Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
>>
>
> No one cares what YOU did. Not that anyone believes you anyway. The
> facts are in the links above. Documents are not 100% compatible - end of
> story.
>
> You're simply insane to think its an attack on Linux to want to improve
> it.
Admitting Linux has a problem is the cardinal sin of COLA.
It's like insulting their mother or something.
Snit
> High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> Snit writes:
>>>> Peter Köhlmann stated:
>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
>>>>>>> format" is simply a myth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
>>>>>> Office.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>>>
>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>
>>
>> Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
>
> So called? There are many documented consistency issues with the average
> Linux desktop UI. It's common knowledge and is being addressed ny amogst
> others the Gnome and KDE development teams in addition to efforts by the
> likes of Mark Shuttleworth and his Ubuntu team. Why do you take it so
> personally? Why are you such an idiot?
What is weird is not just that they disagree that consistency is a value,
they not argue against people having a *choice* of consistency, they
actually outright deny the inconsistencies, even when they are shown images
and videos!
That is pathological. Really.
>> several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
>> Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
>> Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.
>
> No one cares what YOU did. Not that anyone believes you anyway. The
> facts are in the links above. Documents are not 100% compatible - end of
> story.
He found a document that worked... so he insists that all documents work.
This is similar to Sermos "logic" where there is *a* poorly documented case
study of a nine year old being able to use Linux (with help!) so he insists
that means there are no usability issues.
It is a sign of a complete lack of understanding of even basic logic.
> You're simply insane to think its an attack on Linux to want to improve
> it.
He and the other advocates not only do not see the value of consistency they
argue against *others* even having the choice on desktop Linux. They never,
however, explain why they are against choice.
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Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
>>> simply a myth.
>>
>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>
> That is not a myth. It is fact
Indeed. An office will have more problems if one guy starts using Office
2007 and saves in the default format, than they will if he starts using
OpenOffice, but understands to save in Office XP format.
--
You will step on the night soil of many countries.
Doctor Smith
> He (High Plains Thumper), like William Poaster, is insane. Simple. Don't look for further
> reasons. He, like Poaster, is a millstone around the neck of Linux
> advocacy and acceptance. Can you imagine Jorge Schilling or Linus
> shreaking "liar" everytime someone pointed out a bug? And to think these
> real developers actually get called "cunts" and "fuckheads" by Chris
> Ahlstrom who took it on himself to review Jorg's C ... The same Chris
> Ahlstrom that advocated using casts to hide warnings about incompatible
> implicit casts. LOL. He sure got made to look a fool on that one - I
> dont think he realised it was cross posted to comp.lang.c.
Good ASS-essment of the Linux COLA community.
Snit
I would not be surprised to find HPT and Poaster are the same person... they
do share some "tells".
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Snit
4/4/09 10:03 AM:
Peter Köhlmann is even more angry... I suspect their denial just eats away
at them.
--
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Snit
4/4/09 9:18 AM:
Generally most companies have migration plans... but even for companies run
as poorly as what you describe, Office 2007 reads and writes older Word
formats far, far better than does OpenOffice.
Hey: what happens if someone has an older version of OpenOffice? Does it
work with MS Office docs as well? What? No?
Oh: so you want to compare the the newest OpenOffice with the not-newest MS
Word, even though OpenOffice was updated *after* MS Word was.
Gee, if you compare OpenOffice with AppleWorks on an Apple IIe it likely
compares well, too! Then again, maybe not. :)
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Road Glidin' Don
wrote:
> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
> Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.
High Plains Thumper
> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
>>> its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
For the curious, see the following link for snipped info:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf
>> You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
>> quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
>> think that says something about me is literally insane. It
>> does speak volumes about you and Carroll.
>
> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
> Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
> mentally ill person.
>
> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
> problems.
2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
Individual.net by legal counsel.
If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
legal liability.
These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
Usenet Big 8.
--
HPT
Snit
fcd4d859-7314-4e16...@s12g2000prc.googlegroups.com on 4/4/09
10:31 AM:
The weird thing... well, a weird thing... is that he keeps leaving the topic
of Linux / OSS (he knows he has no leg to stand on) and then insists that I
have done some irrelevant action which he can *never* quote... so he quotes
Steve Carroll's list of scavenged and fabricated quotes. I guess one good
thing about this is Steve Carroll is no doubt happy: he spend a *lot* of
work dredging up quotes all the way back to, I kid you not, 2004 (including
"quoting" his own sock puppets!) and must be pleased as punch to see other
trolls taking on the work he no longer can do now that his ISP dropped
Usenet access.
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Snit
10:33 AM:
...
>> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
>> problems.
>
> 2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
> this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
> Individual.net by legal counsel.
I am glad you see publicly posted accusations in such a light. Here are
some of the messages where you have posted outrageous accusations against
me:
gr7tjo$r3e$1...@news.albasani.net
gr6c6o$l1p$1...@news.albasani.net
gr22gm$h1f$1...@news.albasani.net
49d43a6e$0$3340$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org
2a73d02b-86ae-4afa...@z15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
49c6ff23$0$3338$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org
gp1dfi$6k8$1...@news.albasani.net
And on and on and on... time after time again you openly lie about me,
publicly accuse me of dishonest without *ever* offering a single example,
insist the fact I noted a quote I provided was accurate somehow proves I
used socks, and on and on.
Now you are whining because someone figured out your sexuality and posted it
before you were ready to "come out", or perhaps even made up something about
you that you find offensive. Poor you! I do not condone such behavior, but
what an amazing hypocrite you are to whine about it.
If you really do try to take this to court, which - face it - you have no
intention of doing, I will happy provide the court with as many posts of
yours as I can where you directly target me and then another stack where you
target Doctor Smith with your public comments. Let me be very, very clear:
I will not make up a single claim about you nor exaggerate any fact, I shall
simply print up your own words where you clearly do as I say above.
Good luck with your case!
> If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
> business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
> legal liability.
What?
> These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
> advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
> Usenet Big 8.
So why do you think it is fine to lie about me... recently merely because I
pointed out a weakness of OpenOffice.
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Doctor Smith
> Doctor Smith crossposted wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>>
>>>> The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
>>>> its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
>>>> posters have to say about Snit: [...]
>
> For the curious, see the following link for snipped info:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf
>
>>> You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
>>> quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
>>> think that says something about me is literally insane. It
>>> does speak volumes about you and Carroll.
>>
>> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
>> Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
>> mentally ill person.
>>
>> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
>> problems.
>
> 2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
> this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
> Individual.net by legal counsel.
Poor baby....
Wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa I want my baba...
> If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
> business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
> legal liability.
Don't you know?
We are all employed by Microsoft.
I though you knew that?
BWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
> These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
> advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
> Usenet Big 8.
*YOU* have no place in an advocacy group High Plains Thumper because you
rarely advocate.
What you do is libel other people via your colatrolls blog spam and then
when they give you a little of your own medicine you go crying like a baby
who want's his mother's tit.
If you can't take the heat Wendy, then get out of the kitchen and go clean
the living room or something.
Geeeeezzzz what a child.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Doctor Smith crossposted wrote:
>
> <grade-school slur over sexual orientation snipped>
>
> 2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
> this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
> Individual.net by legal counsel.
>
> If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
> business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
> legal liability.
>
> These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
> advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
> Usenet Big 8.
This kind of stuff is a dime a gigabyte.
Yawn.
--
Q: What lies on the bottom of the ocean and twitches?
A: A nervous wreck.
Doctor Smith
> After takin' a swig o' grog, High Plains Thumper belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Doctor Smith crossposted wrote:
>>
>> <grade-school slur over sexual orientation snipped>
>>
>> 2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
>> this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
>> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
>> Individual.net by legal counsel.
>>
>> If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
>> business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
>> legal liability.
>>
>> These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
>> advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
>> Usenet Big 8.
>
> This kind of stuff is a dime a gigabyte.
Is that all they pay Roy Schestowitz?
> Yawn.
Yep.....
High Plains is about as boring as they come.
Snit
4/4/09 11:55 AM:
I just posted a number of his recent message IDs where he libeled me and
even targeted my professional life in reprehensible ways. The fact is he
has no desire to take you to court, but if for some reason he pushes his own
back against the wall hard enough where he feels he needs to do so, I will
be happy to find those documents and provide direct links to Google or other
archives to prove a lack of tampering.
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult. I do not
think comments should be targeted in such a way, for what it is worth, but
given his easily proved behavior, that continues even today, I have *no*
sympathy for him. He is a hypocrite whining because he got a very, very
small taste of what he dishes out.
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union...@gmail.com
> "Terry Porter" <linu...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
>
> news:_f-dnTjAEO-lEEzU...@netspace.net.au...
>
> > The windows trolls here on COLA can't believe MS could ever die.
>
> You seem to miss the point here. This is only an EOL announcement for an
> old product that is not selling very well anymore. What do you use for an
> encyclopedia? That's a clue.
You seem to miss a rather large point here yourself. The highly paid
professionals that worked on Encarta could not compete with a bunch of
rag-tag amateurs at wikipedia.
> You can't get Win98 or WinMe or Win2000 anymore either, but that isn't any
> sign of MS dying. Far from it. They are just moving into larger and more
> profitable areas.
I see. They are advancing to the rear.
amicus_curious
<union...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:77eb3b51-6b33-43e0...@d25g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>You seem to miss a rather large point here yourself. The highly paid
>professionals that worked on Encarta could not compete with a bunch of
>rag-tag amateurs at wikipedia.
Well, times change certainly and an encyclopedia has become rather passe,
regardless of the competence of those producing it. High pay is not a sign
of anything either if you witness the recent accomplishments of the
multi-million dollar salaried denziens of Wall Street banks and companies
such as AIG. AFAIK Encarta was never a market leader and certainly not a
big money source.
>I see. They are advancing to the rear.
Apparently you do not see. Times have gotten tough for many companies and
maybe 2009 will be the first year that Microsoft has failed to grow their
revenues, but it has yet to happen.
chrisv
> Peter Köhlmann belched:
>
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>
>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is simply a
>>>> myth.
>>>
>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>>
>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>
> Indeed. An office will have more problems if one guy starts using
> Office 2007 and saves in the default format, than they will if he starts
> using OpenOffice, but understands to save in Office XP format.
Don't you know that it's better to pay for M$ Office, year in and year
out, for all ETERNITY, rather than bite the bullet, switch-over to OO,
and if, God forbid, some of your precious documents require a touch-up,
do so?
Terry Porter
Exactly!
MS Win98 was replaced by MS WinMe which was replaced by MS Win2000
MSN Encarta was replaced by .... NON MS Wikipedia, in the same way that
MS Windows Vista Veta 7, will be replaced by NON MS GNU/Linux.
SPLORF!
--
If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
Wally
"Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
> In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
> outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult.
Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How amazingly
ignorant of you Snit! really!
> I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,
How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do tell!
Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness with latent
homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have the 'Ducking stool' in
Prescott too?
"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems."-Doctor Smith
Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent homosexuality may
be a factor regarding the mental problems that he has claimed that he has
had to endure?
Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy and or of the
ever present slipping of reality from Snit's fragile grasp?
Road Glidin' Don
Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.
Doctor Smith
"Road Glidin' Don"?
LMAO!.....
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
People /are/ funny!!
--
Q: How do you know when you're in the <ethnic> section of Vermont?
A: The maple sap buckets are hanging on utility poles.
Tim Adams
Wally <Wa...@wally.world.net> wrote:
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
start up his shit circus.
--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
RonB
> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
> Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
> glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
>
> You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
> start up his shit circus.
That's what trolls do.
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Snit
teadams$2$0$0$3-2E645A.22...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net on
4/4/09 7:02 PM:
Please stop lying about me. Seriously: the only reason you do so is you
know I have pointed out how perverted your claims that incest and sex are,
to you, *identical*. Your word.
You are a sick, sick man.
--
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Snit
PM:
...
>>> Well *that* comment does explain a lot Snit...... "I do not see any
>>> *logical* reason to disallow incest."-Snit ......You see incest as a "whole
>>> set"? What 'parts' go to make up that "whole set" Snit? You really are a sad
>>> case Snit!
>> Remember how lost you have shown you are with the concept of even very simple
>> sets and subsets. Here are some of your comments on the subject:
>>
>> I gave a clear example as to when a subset with 0 elements
>> would not actually be empty as you claimed that it would!
>>
>> But zero items does not necessarily translate to being empty
>> as you have said it would!
>>
>> your delusion is that something that owes its very existence
>> to the fact that it contains information can in fact be
>> ...empty!
>>
>> whether it is written {} or {0} has no significance wrt what
>> the answer actually is
>>
>> it makes no difference if you write {} and I write {0}
>> because the meaning is exactly the same ...0 elements!
>>
>> Now research why a "subset" cannot be "empty"
>>
>> And, of course, when I note something that does *not* apply to a set of
>> behavior you erroneous claim that applied to all subsets. Given your lack of
>> ability to comprehend simple concepts, when I note I see no *logical* reason
>> to disallow, for example, two siblings in their 80s from having a mutually
>> agreeable relationship that most people would find abhorrent, you illogically
>> jump to the conclusion that I believe there is no reason to disallow other
>> abhorrent behavior. It is simply another sign of your complete inability to
>> understand logic a standard grade school child would understand.
>>
>> And then you claim that incest and sex are, to you, "synonymous" (a claim
>> only a pervert would make) and you support Tim Adams when he calls them
>> "identical."
>>
>> You have pushed yourself into such a deep, dark corner you cannot even decide
>> if you think bestiality is or is not synonymous with sex... when any
>> non-pervert would know they are very, very different concepts and thus
>> clearly not synonymous.
> Why are you changing the subject Snit?
The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them. I have noted,
and proved via quotes, that you are completely lost on the topic of sets and
subsets, even with simple concepts that a grade school student would
understand.
You repeatedly make the same mistakes over and over... as I described,
above, and you snipped and ran from - showing you know I am right or,
perhaps, you are just so far over your head you know you have no reasoned
explanation.
And you are so frustrated and confused you cannot even figure out if you
think *bestiality* is synonymous with sex! That is utterly repulsive. You
are a pervert who has claimed that incest, to you, is synonymous with sex.
And you support your perverted buddy Tim Adams who says the two are
"identical." When your perverse claims are noted, you try to turn things
around and talk about how, based on your complete lack of understanding of
the most simple of concepts, you think I am as perverted as you are.
Utterly reprehensible on your part. But worse than that: when you really
get frustrated you lash out against my personal life and my professional
life and the people I interact with in such capacities - making up stories
to try to turn the attention away from yourself and your perverse claims.
> You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
> so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
> up this "whole set"?
Why do you label it an "admission" that one can make, for example, a Venn
diagram with "incest" as a set and subsets within it? Once again: you are
proving how utterly lost you are in any conversation that deals with even
*simple* set concepts.
> It seems that we are getting close to the point where you will find it
> necessary to start another thread to try and divert attention away from the
> hole that you have dug for yourself Snit! (Or in this case perhaps 'whole'
> that you have dug for yourself is more appropriate?)
>
> <waffle snipped>
Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!
Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!
--
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Snit
5:36 PM:
Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology and
not do such absurd things.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
> Tim Adams wrote:
>
>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
>> Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
>> glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
>>
>> You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
>> start up his shit circus.
>
> That's what trolls do.
Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.
You are a troll so you pretend to agree.
Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*, all you are
willing to do is lash out against people and hope to change the topic to
them defending themselves.
You, RonB, refuse to talk about Linux... you humiliated yourself when you
made clearly and obviously false claims about CentOS.
But that is better than Tim Adams: he humiliated himself by not just saying
that incest, to him, is *identical* to sex, but when I suggested he had
worded something poorly he *insisted* he meant what he said - he really
insists he is a pervert.
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Hadron
LOL. Better watch he doesn't "bust a cap in your arse".
Here he is "gliding"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/1767526951_39ecd96358.jpg
--
In view of all the deadly computer viruses that have been spreading
lately, Weekend Update would like to remind you: when you link up to
another computer, you’re linking up to every computer that that
computer has ever linked up to. — Dennis Miller
High Plains Thumper
> "Snit" wrote:
>
>> In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
>> embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
>> claim as an insult.
>
> Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How
> amazingly ignorant of you Snit! really!
>
>> I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,
>
> How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do
> tell!
>
> Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness
> with latent homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have
> the 'Ducking stool' in Prescott too?
>
> "It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
> Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
> mentally ill person. I suspect it is his latent homosexuality
> that is causing the problems."-Doctor Smith
>
> Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent
> homosexuality may be a factor regarding the mental problems
> that he has claimed that he has had to endure?
Good point! Snit with his constant whines certainly sounds like
a closet sister.
> Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy
> and or of the ever present slipping of reality from Snit's
> fragile grasp?
Of course it is! He's dug himself in deep, too deep to retract
himself.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
Wally
"Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are you changing the subject Snit?
>
> The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.
Such as ...
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!
Why don't you ever give your foot a chance to heal before you take yet
another shot at it Snit? LOL
Wally
"Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> RonB stated in post gr93ph$a4i$2...@reader.motzarella.org on 4/4/09 7:07 PM:
>
>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>
>>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
>>> Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
>>> glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
>>>
>>> You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
>>> start up his shit circus.
>>
>> That's what trolls do.
>
> Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.
>
> You are a troll so you pretend to agree.
>
> Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*, all you are
> willing to do is lash out against people .....
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied upon to do
automatically!
High Plains Thumper
> Snit wrote:
>> RonB stated:
>>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>>
>>>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
>>>> links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
>>>> michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
>>>> apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
>>>> libel.
Here is a classic Snit statement:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2048009d216216b5
Snit: "Now you are whining because someone figured out your
sexuality and posted it before you were ready to "come out", or
perhaps even made up something about you that you find offensive.
Poor you! I do not condone such behavior, but what an amazing
hypocrite you are to whine about it."
Snit supports Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) in his
libel by libelling me.
Continuation of the Snit Kangaroo Court:
Snit: "If you really do try to take this to court, which - face
it - you have no intention of doing, I will happy provide the
court with as many posts of yours as I can where you directly
target me and then another stack where you target Doctor Smith
with your public comments. Let me be very, very clear: I will
not make up a single claim about you nor exaggerate any fact, I
shall simply print up your own words where you clearly do as I
say above. Good luck with your case!"
Tim, you are correct, expression of the truth is not libel, but
Snit has little understanding of what the truth is.
>>>> You might also note that once again, without fail,
>>>> michael glasser tries to start up his shit circus.
>>>
>>> That's what trolls do.
>>
>> Tim Adams is a troll so he lies. You are a troll so you
>> pretend to agree. Neither of you, of course, are willing to
>> discuss *topics*, all you are willing to do is lash out
>> against people .....
Following statement made 4-1/2 years ago still rings true:
113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a
liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
> "In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
> embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
> claim as an insult."-Snit
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3b6afa8eacc65cf0
> Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied
> upon to do automatically!
He is an out and out liar, plain and simple. I find this quote
most apt:
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
His supporting Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) with
his libelous statements makes him an ironic hypocrite.
But here is a case of illiteracy, William Poaster and I are 2
different people:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ed9124f54bbf3959
Subject: Re: OO deals poorly with Word files: HPT flips out. Why?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:19:30 -0700
Message-ID: <C5FCD6A2.27720%cs...@gallopinginsanity.com>
Snit: "I would not be surprised to find HPT and Poaster are the
same person... they do share some 'tells'."
He accuses me of changing the subject in:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/458e1e0b1a1916f9
Snit: "I just noticed you changed the subject line [...]
Seriously, what is wrong with you?"
Snit changed the subject to: "OO deals poorly with Word files:
HPT flips out. Why?"
So, it is not okay for me to do it, but it is perfectly good for
him to do it. That is called, "hypocrisy".
--
HPT
127 observer quotes on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf
John
"High Plains Thumper" <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:gra351$o83$1...@news.motzarella.org...
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!
Doctor Smith
> Wally wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>> RonB stated:
>>>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
>>>>> links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
>>>>> michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
>>>>> apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
>>>>> libel.
>
> Here is a classic Snit statement:
Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.
So are you gay or not?
Tell the truth now because you are not the only one who knows how to use a
search engine.......
Doctor Smith
Bwaaaaaaaa!
I'll bet he's been a "gliding" right on up the Hershey Highway if you get
my drift :)
Hadron
> On 5/4/09 10:58 AM, in article C5FD6C72.27857%cs...@gallopinginsanity.com,
> "Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Why are you changing the subject Snit?
>>
>> The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.
>
> Such as ...
>
> "In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
> outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
>
> They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!
They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
comprehensive. Its one or the other.
>
> Why don't you ever give your foot a chance to heal before you take yet
> another shot at it Snit? LOL
>
--
Wally
"Doctor Smith" <iaintgotnos...@ols.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:02:55 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> Wally wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> RonB stated:
>>>>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
>>>>>> links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
>>>>>> michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
>>>>>> apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
>>>>>> libel.
>>
>> Here is a classic Snit statement:
>
> Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
> apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.
Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!
Wally
<hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wally <Wa...@wally.world.net> writes:
>
>> On 5/4/09 10:58 AM, in article C5FD6C72.27857%cs...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>> "Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Why are you changing the subject Snit?
>>>
>>> The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.
>>
>> Such as ...
>>
>> "In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
>> outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
>>
>> They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!
>
> They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
> comprehensive. Its one or the other.
"In the end he is being a hypocrite"-Snit
A baseless accusation!
Doctor Smith
It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)
You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?
Snit
on 4/4/09 10:18 PM:
I noted that I *disagreed* with someone being insulted as they were... and
you and Wally insist that means I agreed.
Please, would the two of you stop lying and at least *try* to stick to some
topic other than personal attacks designed to keep others on the defensive
so you can avoid talking about relevant issues?
Please?
I simply cannot imagine the humiliation you two must be under to feel the
need to act as you do.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them. I have noted,
Snit
DFS
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Peter Köhlmann belched:
>>
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
>>>>> simply a myth.
>>>>
>>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>>>
>>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>>
>> Indeed. An office will have more problems if one guy starts using
>> Office 2007 and saves in the default format, than they will if he
>> starts using OpenOffice, but understands to save in Office XP format.
>
> Don't you know that it's better to pay for M$ Office, year in and year
> out,
Considering it's released at most every 2 years, that's a tall order... but
one which any bumbling Linux idiot is all too eager to fill.
> for all ETERNITY, rather than bite the bullet, switch-over to OO,
> and if, God forbid, some of your precious documents require a
> touch-up, do so?
How do you "touch up" this kind of slopware result:
http://www.angelfire.com/linux/dfs0/Word_doc_mangled_by_OOWriter.png.
That's a Word 2000 .doc document shown in in OO 3 Writer (Windows) Print
Layout mode.
I'll tell you how: by manually and closely reviewing every single page of
every MS Office .doc and .xls file (I have hundreds) to see what changes
were made by OO crapware.
You going to do that for me, chrisv? Of course not, you're going to run
away like a chickenshit, back to your Windows job where you use MS Office.
And we haven't even mentioned OO's inability to run VBA programs, of which
every large corporation has many.
It's a FOSS nut's wetdream that OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.
Wally
"Doctor Smith" <iaintgotnos...@ols.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:30:01 +0800, Wally wrote:
>
>> On 5/4/09 9:28 PM, in article rf5d4ikfcm8o.749ybjkis9j4$.d...@40tude.net,
>> "Doctor Smith" <iaintgotnos...@ols.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:02:55 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wally wrote:
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> RonB stated:
>>>>>>> Tim Adams wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
>>>>>>>> links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
>>>>>>>> michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
>>>>>>>> apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
>>>>>>>> libel.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a classic Snit statement:
>>>
>>> Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
>>> apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.
>>
>> Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
>> homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
>> it is about anyone else!
>>
>> You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
>> is clearly way too deep for you!
>
> It's "apparently latent".
>
> (That should confuse the hell of you)
There is nothing confusing about changing the subject matter!
"apparently latent" as opposed to "latent homosexuality" or "apparent
homosexuality"!
Now just give Snit his books back!
> You seem to be an expert on the matter.
That would depend on who you are comparing me with! If it's yourself then I
can see why you would have that opinion!
> Are you gay as well?
And that matters ...why?
DFS
> Doctor Smith crossposted wrote:
>> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
>> Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
>> mentally ill person.
>>
>> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
>> problems.
>
> 2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
> this as personal libel,
Why such a homophobe?
> worthy of seeking legal action to include
> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
> Individual.net by legal counsel.
Hey, all the savings you made by freeloading Linux could go to your 'Get
Moshe' fund.
Snit
4/5/09 4:02 AM:
I get it: You do not see the difference between changing a non-offensive
subject line to a dishonest accusation against another poster and then the
target of your BS changing the subject line back to being honest.
The fact is, HPT, you cannot defend your anti-choice views, so you lash out
and spew lies.
Why not rise to the level of discussing *Linux* and OSS... you know, the
topics you dishonestly pretend to want to discuss and then whine incessantly
when others speak off topic.
I have spoken in depth about my views: they are well supported, well thought
out, heavily backed by industry experts both in and out of the OSS world,
and are completely unimpeachable. You do not like my idea of offering
*more* choice to users: so you lash out and whine and cry and make up
stories, you quote Steve Carroll's forged and scavenged quotes he has been
collecting since 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, and
you do everything you can to *avoid* any technical topic.
I challenge you to rise above your petty hurt feelings and move forward
talking about technology and technological issues.
If you can.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
DFS
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>
>>>> To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only format" is
>>>> simply a myth.
>>>
>>> The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS Office.
>>
>> That is not a myth. It is fact
>
> Indeed. An office will have more problems if one guy starts using
> Office 2007 and saves in the default format, than they will if he
> starts using OpenOffice, but understands to save in Office XP format.
I'd love to see that silly scenario put to the test.
All I have to do is distribute one of my stellar Excel models or
feature-rich Access .mdes to the hundreds of OO users in this alternate
world, and chaos would ensue.
Snit
4:08 AM:
>
> "High Plains Thumper" <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:gra351$o83$1...@news.motzarella.org...
...
>
> Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!
>
HPT spread his debate with me in COLA to other forums... it started when he
was offended that I noted desktop Linux users would benefit from having
*more* choices, specifically choices that allowed them to have a consistent
and well thought out UI across their whole system. I gave examples of the
choice to select Save dialogs and Print dialogs, color selectors and text
services, common menu items and common hot keys... things of that nature.
I made it clear that this should not be forced on a user: there was some
concern, for example, that people might want different dictionaries in
different programs. I advocated for not a single reduction in choice or
freedom.
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They do not understand
why a consistent and well designed UI is better - even though I have pointed
them to studies and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that all
support this. I have even pointed them to multiple OSS project's
documentation and key player commentary which support it - projects such as
KDE, Gnome, Firefox, OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.
But while HPT and others have used "choice" as a mantra, they do not really
believe in it. They do not want choices that clearly would benefit users...
they want the Linux desktop to *not* be consistent... they want it to be a
mish mash of poorly followed and competing standards.
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of this. They
cannot say why *others* should not have the choice to have what they do not
understand.
So they lash out. They lie. They quote Steve Carroll's list of scavenged
and forged quotes - the quotes he has been digging up and making up since
2004 when he blames me for his girlfriend dumping him and when he freaked
out over my noting well supported and defended facts about George W. Bush.
So, no, HPT is not Steve Carroll: but he is cut from the same cloth (though,
presumably, five years from now he will not still be crying over the
"wrongs" he thinks he has suffered now - that is uniquely Carroll).
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Wally
"Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
Where are you disagreeing Snit?
And you should note that it seems to be only you that has linked being
called gay with being insulted Snit, frankly I consider it an insult that
you should think that I believe your lies no matter what the subject happens
to be!
Why do you consider being called gay an insult Snit?
>
> Please, would the two of you stop lying and at least *try* to stick to some
> topic other than personal attacks designed to keep others on the defensive
> so you can avoid talking about relevant issues?
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
Was that comment "relevant" Snit? If so ... To what?
> Please?
>
> I simply cannot imagine the humiliation you two must be under to feel the
> need to act as you do.
I realize that you of all people do not need imagination to feel humiliated
Snit, it's obvious in almost every thread you are concerned with that you
know the feeling all too well!
Snit
> Wally <Wa...@wally.world.net> writes:
>
>> On 5/4/09 10:58 AM, in article C5FD6C72.27857%cs...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>> "Snit" <cs...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Why are you changing the subject Snit?
>>>
>>> The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.
>>
>> Such as ...
>>
>> "In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
>> outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
>>
>> They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!
>
> They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
> comprehensive. Its one or the other.
Gee, I noted he either is or is not something. Maybe Wally is offended I
left out the possibility he was partly something? Whatever?
I do not care about anyone's sexuality on Usenet... I think it was wrong to
comment on HPT's sexuality... but, based on HPT's actions I feel *no*
sympathy for him. And his reaction to the comments were completely
hypocritical: he pretended he did not want to see such BS spewed in Usenet,
but I was able to *easily* point out where he spews lies and accusations and
insults on a regular basis, such as when he adopted Wally's idiotic claim
that since I noted a quote I provided was accurate this somehow supports
their lies of my using sock puppets. Their "logic" is completely lacking...
both Wally and HPT just lash out because they know they have backed
themselves into corners.
They could, of course, just move on: unlike an animal backed into a corner
who has no easy out, they could just drop their focus on their pains - if
they must, leave for a while and lick their wounds in peace. Then come back
to COLA and CSMA as useful members of the groups, speaking about topics
other than their own pain and their need to lash out. That, really, is what
they talk about now: how they are humiliated and in pain and how they want
to blame others. I know I would let their pasts go if they would just move
on and let it go themselves. I suspect most others would to. Yes, there
might be the occasional comment or reference, but that is just something
they will have to learn to deal with.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
4/5/09 6:28 AM:
I noted:
* I disagree with you making an issue of his sexuality
* He either is or is not gay... it does not matter which
And he and Wally freaked out.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them. I have noted,
Snit
The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them. I have noted,
Snit
Snit
4/5/09 6:38 AM:
Again: Wally's sexuality is of no interest... it is not a topic that should
even be discussed. But Wally clearly has a lot of problems with his views
dealing with sexuality and sex: he has made it clear that incest, to him, is
*synonymous* with sex. I kid you not:
"I have *always* maintained that incest is synonymous with sex"
- Wally
"I on the other hand have maintained that incest and sex are
synonymous!" - Wally
"Incest, for most people, IS synonymous with sex" - Wally
And his pervert friend, Tim Adams, jumped in to defend him:
"Yet incest IS synonymous with sex." - Tim Adams
"Incest is synonymous with sex because the definitions
clearly prove it." - Tim Adams
"incest IS synonymous with sex, yet you argue against that
FACT." - Tim Adams
Tim Adams even said the two were, and I quote, "identical", and Wally has
defended the use of that word to describe incest and sex.
Wally even showed, recently, that he could not figure out if he thought
bestiality was in the same "grouping" for him... while any non-pervert can
tell you that bestiality is *not* synonymous with sex, Wally has yet to
decide it it is or is not.
Wally and Tim Adams, in retaliation for my noting this, have dredged up
quotes they take out of context. For example: I once noted that there is no
logical reason to 80 year old siblings could not engage in a relationship
you, I, and most would find reprehensible and vulgar. They cannot procreate
and neither, presumably, is in a position of authority over the other: they
are two free adults making choices.
Tim and Wally pulled comments from my views out of context and tried to make
it seem like I agreed with them about there being no difference between sex
and incest - they pretended I agreed with them about the synonymy of the
two. I do not.
Now: in case I have taken anything out of context, if Wally or Tim Adams are
willing to say that the do *not* believe that incest and sex are
synonymous... or identical... then I would be ecstatic. I would love for
them to say they merely misspoke or that their words were taken out of
context - but time and time again both have insisted they meant what they
said and that they have been quoted accurately.
The one exception to that is Tim Adams who, contrary to logic and
rationality, talked about how he thinks incest is *identical* to sex, but
only when "presented" in that order. Whatever that means. If A = B, then B
= A. The order is 100% irrelevant. He is not willing to say that incest is
not, to him, *identical* to sex. That is just repulsive.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Snit
I noted that I did not agree with comments being made about HPT's
sexuality... and it was obvious that HPT was offended - so much he
threatened to take people to court over it! I also noted he either is gay,
in which case he did not want his sexuality to be known, or he is *not* gay,
in which case he took the comment to be offensive and an insult.
And you, being unable to understand what you read, have the audacity to
quote me only in part and then ask:
Where are you disagreeing Snit?
As if I must note my disagreement in every sentence... including the ones
you *later* snip from a paragraph where I made it clear I did not agree!
Why do you consider being called gay an insult Snit?
I noted that HPT clearly took it as an insult... and you respond with that!
My goodness, Wally, you are just proving how little you understand.
Seriously, Wally: get a freakin' clue. Get some reading comprehension
classes! Stop making up stories about me!
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Steve Carroll
> Doctor Smith stated in post 1pmz52g1xo8sn$.1fsvwx5akqzsw....@40tude.net on
> 4/4/09 11:55 AM:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:33:42 -0600, High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
> >> Doctor Smith crossposted wrote:
> >>> Snit wrote:
> >>>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>
> >>>>> The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
> >>>>> its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
> >>>>> posters have to say about Snit: [...]
>
> >> For the curious, see the following link for snipped info:
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a811811...
>
> >>>> You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
> >>>> quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
> >>>> think that says something about me is literally insane. It
> >>>> does speak volumes about you and Carroll.
>
> >>> It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
> >>> Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
> >>> mentally ill person.
>
> >>> I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
> >>> problems.
>
> >> requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
> >> Individual.net by legal counsel.
>
> > Wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa I want my baba...
>
> >> If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
> >> business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
> >> legal liability.
>
> > Don't you know?
> > We are all employed by Microsoft.
> > I though you knew that?
>
> > BWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
>
> >> These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
> >> advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
> >> Usenet Big 8.
>
> > *YOU* have no place in an advocacy group High Plains Thumper because you
> > rarely advocate.
>
> > What you do is libel other people via your colatrolls blog spam and then
> > when they give you a little of your own medicine you go crying like a baby
> > who want's his mother's tit.
>
> > If you can't take the heat Wendy, then get out of the kitchen and go clean
> > the living room or something.
>
> > Geeeeezzzz what a child.
>
> I just posted a number of his recent message IDs where he libeled me and
> even targeted my professional life in reprehensible ways. The fact is he
> has no desire to take you to court, but if for some reason he pushes his own
> back against the wall hard enough where he feels he needs to do so, I will
> be happy to find those documents and provide direct links to Google or other
> archives to prove a lack of tampering.
>
> In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
> outted him
Snit... please have your sockpuppets/shills refrain publicly
exhibiting your bigotry towards gays.
Thanks.
Steve Carroll
> On Apr 4, 11:41 am, Snit <c...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Road Glidin' Don stated in post
> > fcd4d859-7314-4e16-bd04-d9d48d7b7...@s12g2000prc.googlegroups.com on 4/4/09
> > 10:31 AM:
>
> > > On Apr 4, 10:56 am, Doctor Smith <iaintgotnostinkinem...@ols.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
>
> > > hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.
>
> > The weird thing... well, a weird thing... is that he keeps leaving the topic
> > of Linux / OSS (he knows he has no leg to stand on) and then insists that I
> > have done some irrelevant action which he can *never* quote... so he quotes
> > Steve Carroll's list of scavenged and fabricated quotes. I guess one good
> > thing about this is Steve Carroll is no doubt happy: he spend a *lot* of
> > work dredging up quotes all the way back to, I kid you not, 2004 (including
> > "quoting" his own sock puppets!) and must be pleased as punch to see other
> > trolls taking on the work he no longer can do now that his ISP dropped
> > Usenet access.
>
> Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.
It's also filled with lies.
Steve Carroll
> 5:36 PM:
> not do such absurd things.
Sure you do... and that's why out of the 30,000+ posts you have
written in csma alone only about 10 of them are "actually" dealing
with Mac advocacy. LOL!
I keep telling you, Snit... people just aren't as stupid as you need
them to be.
Steve Carroll
> RonB stated in post gr93ph$a4...@reader.motzarella.org on 4/4/09 7:07 PM:
>
> > Tim Adams wrote:
>
> >> michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
> >> Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
> >> glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
>
> >> start up his shit circus.
>
> > That's what trolls do.
>
> Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.
>
> You are a troll so you pretend to agree.
>
> Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*,
Said the hypocritical liar who continually brings up my name (and the
names of others) when he wants to change the topic from "technology"
to trolling.
Steve Carroll
> John stated in post 5MqdnSM0FezNDEXUnZ2dnUVZ_jaWn...@giganews.com on 4/5/09
Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he thinks
he has suffered now;)
Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!
Steve Carroll
> On 5/4/09 9:51 PM, in article C5FE0566.2789F%c...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>
>
>
> "Snit" <c...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > High Plains Thumper stated in post 49d83f42$0$3339$6e1ed...@read.cnntp.org
Snit thinks that his piling on is disagreeing (this, from a guy who
claims he isn't fond of "me too" posts;)
Steve Carroll
Snit previously wrote:
> >> "In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
> >> outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
(snip)
Snit now writes:
> Gee, I noted he either is or is not something.
The bigoted, hypocritical liar named Snit was busted suggesting that
another poster should feel "embarrassed" for being "outted" and he's
seen whining about it here. Is anyone surprised? Anyone at all? Didn't
think so...
Snit
4/5/09 6:38 AM:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:30:01 +0800, Wally wrote:
Wally and other trolls will continue to lie about this whole thing.
High Plains Thumper showed clear and obvious anger over a comment about is
sexuality... he was so offended that he threatened to take you to court over
it.
I noted I did not approve of talking about his sexuality: the trolls have
lied and claimed I backed your actions (I did note I have no sympathy for
HPT and pointed out several posts where he has been lying about me... if he
wants my sympathy he can stop lying about me!)
I noted that his clear and obvious anger of the comments come because he
either is gay and you otted him when he did not wish to be outted, or
because he is not gay and took it as an insult. The trolls lied and claimed
that I am saying someone *should* be offended for being called gay and even
to claim that it somehow shows some sign of bigotry from *me*.
What the heck? Noting that someone clearly *was* offended by someone saying
he is gay is now a form of bigotry? No! Saying someone should *not* target
others with comments about their sexuality, gay or straight, is now a form
of support for such actions? No!
And then when I point out HPT's libel, there the trolls are, claiming that
his derogatory lies, posted to a public forum, are not libel... Tim Adams
even labeled the lies as "truth". What? Lies are not, according to Tim
Adams, truth? No! That is idiotic.
What the heck: are these concepts so hard? Where did Adams and Wally and
Carroll get lost? Why are they *never* able to understand what they read?
Are they completely incapable of being honest?
Carroll freaked out in 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving
him. He is insane. But why do Wally and Adams support his BS? What is
wrong with them?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Steve Carroll
> Doctor Smith stated in post tarf51v01edd$.1vi7jif5du6u4$....@40tude.net on
> 4/5/09 6:38 AM:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:30:01 +0800, Wally wrote:
>
suggested that he should feel "embarrassed" about being "outted"? Yes,
you did... as shown in this quote:"
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or..." - Snit
Now I'll make a suggestion to you:
Stop trying to pretend you aren't bigoted towards gays, Snit... people
Snit
11:07 AM:
LOL! Make that: Lies are NOW, according to Tim Adams, truth.
Sigh... trolls will have a party based on *that* typo. Oh well. Not like
they even try to be honest.