The Nizkor Project uses personal attacks instead of facts and logic (was Re: FlubberGut cuts and runs... again. Bellville moans.)
Wallace Cleaver
An important famous quote which applies to the following "debate";
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection?"
Auberon Waugh - The London Daily Telegraph - May 9, 1992
Some similar thoughts;
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection under penalty of
prosecution and imprisonment?"
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection by using personal
attacks, intimidation or outright harassment?"
>On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:18:15 GMT, <HY8p9.7937$WG5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
>kmc...@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote:
>
>>In article <JQN30L0437539.3214236111@anonymous.poster>,
>>Rabbi Epstein <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>How is seeking to have people imprisoned, have their speaking
>>>engagements canceled, having their internet connections terminated,
>>>or having them arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the
>>>democratic process?" Those aren't the works of those who want
>>>"to participate in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent
>>>of a totalitarian regime.
>>
>>Why do you feel that Jews should not be permitted to participate in
>>the democratic process?
>>
>>Quit running from the question, and deal with it, fatso.
>
>Why is it you can only respond with personal attacks? Anyone who
>has the truth does not need to resort to the immature attacks
>you make and as for your question; "Why do you feel that Jews
>should not be permitted to participate in the democratic
>process?"; it was already answered.
>
>I stated before and will again state; "How is seeking to have
>people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements canceled,
>having their internet connections terminated, or having them
>arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the democratic
>process?" Those aren't the works of those who want "to participate
>in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent of a
>totalitarian regime.
>
>I now ask; "Who is the one who is cutting and running?"
>
>I now ask you directly; "Is the following activity which you,
>B'nai Brith, and ADL engage in what you consider _Jews
>participating in the democratic process_?
Here is documentation which proves McVay's statement; "Jews
participating in the democratic process" is actually un-democratic
and the "democratic process is not; "hav[ing] people imprisoned,
hav[ing] their speaking engagements canceled, having their internet
connections terminated, or having them arrested etc";
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9ureg9%241c70%241%40news.tht.net&output=gplain
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: CCRA CHEATED OUT OF REVENUE BY NIZKOR
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
...the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone.
Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
...you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith
Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any
information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet..."
<end of cited text>
It should be noted a "democratic process" is not telling lies
which Ken McVay told above and which are exposed below.
The breakdown of lies told by McVay from the above post;
A) Lie number one espoused by Ken McVay;
"..the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone. ... you have
no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith,
or the ADL is collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to
UseNet."
B) Lie number two espoused by Ken McVay;
"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
When I expose McVay in his lies for his MASTERS the B'nai Brith and its
ADL you all should see how some of McVay's lies overlap.
LET US BEGIN!!
This material counters;
A) Lie number one espoused by Ken McVay;
"..the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm" for anyone. ... you have
no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith,
or the ADL is collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to
UseNet."
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_overview.html
"Fighting anti-Semitism and bigotry here and abroad, the Anti-Defamation
League probes the roots of hatred against Jews and serves as a public
resource for government, media, law enforcement agencies and the public at
large.
ANTI-SEMITISM, BIGOTRY, RACISM
ADL is America's prime resource for information on organized bigotry. The
League collects and assesses a vast amount of information on anti-Semites,
racists and extremists. After carefully evaluating information, ADL
disseminates that information through books, periodicals, videos, reports
and other materials. The League also monitors haters in cyberspace.."
<end>
Is not USENET "cyberspace"?
http://www.adl.org/focus_sheets/focus_internet.html
"HATE ON THE INTERNET
The Internet presents ADL with new opportunities and challenges.
With its information-filled Web site, ADL now reaches more people than
ever -- opinion molders, the media, law enforcement...
At the same time, hate groups have taken to the Internet and World
Wide Web to propagandize and proselytize. Anti-Semites and racists are
rapidly expanding their use of the Internet, communicating with each
other, preaching to the vast majority of people who do not share their
beliefs, raising funds and threatening their enemies. ADL monitors and
documents hundreds of extremist Web sites as well as dozens of e-mail
mailing lists, newsgroups and chat rooms...." <end>
Question for The Nizkor Project's director Ken McVay; "Hey Ken, did you
notice your MASTERS used the term "newsgroups"? That kind of deep sixes
your claim of: "you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith
Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information
whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet.." It is so easy to catch you lying
for your MASTERS! Is not USENET the same as newsgroups?"
Remember everyone when you read and re-read the above and what follows as
well that Ken McVay, the director of The Nizkor Project, is on record as
stating; "...the ADL, and BB isn't a "civilian spy arm... In other words,
you have no evidence whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or
B'nai B'rith, or the ADL is collecting any information whatsoever on
anyone posting to UseNet. Thank you for making that clear." Message-ID:
<9ureg9$1c70$1...@news.tht.net>
http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASUS_12/2609_12.asp
"[A]nti-Semites and racists are using the Internet to recruit new members,
get their message out and open new channels of communication among
sympathizers, a report just released by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
reveals. Hate Group Recruitment On the Internet shows how extremists are
exploiting the technology of the Internet, including the World Wide Web
and USENET, to attract supporters ... the ADL leaders said. "The message
is clear: we must monitor it..." <end>
Looks like McVay is failing miserably at trying to cover his master's
agenda! McVay did state (as detailed above): ""[Y]ou have no evidence
whatsoever that anyone at B'nai Brith Canada, or B'nai B'rith, or the ADL
is collecting any information whatsoever on anyone posting to UseNet."
http://www.models-research.ie/publications/art/99-6.html
... Usenet newsgroups such as alt.politics.white-power offer an
opportunity to recruit new members. Postings from newcomers can be
followed up with contact by direct email to encourage the newcomers to
feel part of the racist community. ...the Anti-Defamation League (ADL),
monitor and document hate activities on the Internet." <end>
http://www.adl.org/mwd/m1.htm
". Important! More and more people are erroneously coming to think that
all information can be found on the World Wide Web. It cannot. Although
there are a number of members of the militia movement active in Usenet
..." <end>
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
Usenet newsgroups-on-line community discussion bulletin boards-also
contribute to the proliferation of publicly visible anti-Semitic hate
on-line. Anyone with access can read and send messages to the newsgroups.
To read or post messages to a group, the user simply uses the newsreader
program provided by most Internet services. The number of messages posted
to the newsgroups is staggering; upwards of 60,000,000 a year and growing!
Considering these numbers, it is not surprising that tens of thousands of
anti-Semitic rants show up each year and 1996 was no exception. Unlike the
World Wide Web, where the user must seek out a site, haters on the Usenet
can send their messages, unsolicited, to any group. ... Newsgroup hate
messages are more like anonymous phone calls or letters that can be sent
simultaneously to hundreds or thousands of people. (To be consistent with
past practice, the ADL Audit counts such simultaneous hate messages as one
incident.) ... <end>
Notice the mention who keeps count of what is posted in USENET? Its the
ADL!!
http://people.brandeis.edu/~anti-defamation/committee/Hillel_monitoring.htm
l Do Your Student Members Want to Help ADL Fight Hate on the Internet?
As a vehicle for spreading hate, the Internet is more powerful than
anything extremists of past decades could have imagined. Using the World
Wide Web, electronic bulletin boards, chat rooms and E-mail, anti-Semites
and racists voice their ideas, hoping to recruit new supporters. Bigots
also employ the Internet to communicate with each other. Often, extremists
invade the space of unsuspecting Internet users to spread their message.
Propagandists send unsolicited E-mail messages to thousands, post
off-topic messages to USENET newsgroups, and seek to dominate the bulletin
boards at mainstream Web sites.
...ADL continuously monitors and documents Internet hate...
THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE IS SEEKING STUDENT MEMBERS OF HILLEL WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN HELPING US MONITOR HATE ON THE INTERNET.
If your students are interested, all they need is a computer with Internet
access and the desire to volunteer time. Volunteers can monitor the
Internet on their own, wherever and whenever they choose....
The Anti-Defamation League is requesting that volunteers monitor
publicly-available information on the Internet only. We are particularly
interested in finding out about threats of action, announcements of
upcoming events, specific information about extremist individuals, written
attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted comments
on current events, and links to new hateful Web sites. Particular areas of
the Internet that are of concern to us are Web-based chat rooms and
discussion boards, Internet Relay Chat rooms, and USENET newsgroups. As
appropriate, some volunteers may be asked to look at specific chat rooms,
bulletin boards, or USENET newsgroups in addition to general monitoring
duties. ... You and your students can play an important part by helping
ADL. Please contact us today! <end>
Translating in general; "The Anti-Defamation League is... interested in
finding out about threats of action, announcements of upcoming events,
written attacks on well-known Jewish institutions or individuals, bigoted
comments on current events..." which tells me that they think they are
above honest and open scrutiny. I will not defend true hate speech but
what constitutes hate speech to this crowd is being critical in any manner
of their agenda.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This material counters;
B) Lie number two espoused by Ken McVay;
"Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have "destroy free speech."
www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/internet/resource/matas.htm
By David Matas, Senior Legal Counsel
B'nai Brith Canada, 1997
"Posting to combat Holocaust denial is best exemplified by the Nizkor
project led by Ken McVay. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith
Canada has a site more general in nature about combatting anti-Semitism.
... Another form of non-legal response is withdrawal of services. Access
to the internet requires an internet access provider. Internet access
providers are commercial enterprises which are free to offer, or to
decline to offer their services to whomever they want, provided they are
non-discriminatory. ... One common technique for combatting hate speech is
approaching those who would provide a platform for hatemongers and asking
them to withdraw the platform... the League for Human Rights of B'nai
Brith Canada might ask the organization to withdraw the invitation,
explaining to them who the speaker is and why the invitation is
inappropriate. There is no reason why similar techniques could not be
employed with phone companies and internet access providers." <end>
I now ask; "HOW MANY OF MCVAY'S LIES WERE EXPOSED IN THE ABOVE MATERIAL?"
More documented examples of B'nai Brith's waging wars against free speech
and debate;
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
From the World's Largest Jewish Organization
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
B'nai B'rith
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
LANDMARK COURT DECISION CONVICTS HOLOCAUST DENIER IN BRAZIL
Washington, D.C. (November 7, 1996) -- For the first time in Latin America
a Holocaust denier has been found guilty and sentenced to two years in
prison. The landmark decision of the High Court of Justice in the
southernmost Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul reversed a lower court
ruling and resulted in the conviction of Siegfried Ellwanger on grounds
that he violated the nation's constitution and penal code.
The president of B'nai B'rith in Brazil hailed the decision. "Holocaust
deniers such as Ellwanger seek to encourage racial and religious divisions
that are not compatible with our democratic society," said Abrao
Lowenthal. B'nai B'rith along with other Jewish groups in Brazil brought
Ellwanger to trial.
Because Ellwanger had no previous criminal record the court waived his
prison sentence and ordered him to perform three years of community
service and ordered him to stop publishing his racist material. Under the
ruling, Ellwanger's books will be confiscated and banned. Ellwanger, who
writes under the name "S.E. Castan," has written or published 13
anti-Semitic books in Portuguese including the infamous The Elders of the
Protocols of Zion and Henry Ford's The International Jew. One of
Ellwanger's books is titled The Holocaust: Jewish or German."
The Jewish community of the state of Rio Grande do Sul, which brought the
case to court, was pleased with the verdict. According to their attorney
Helio Santana, a B'nai B'rith member, "Ellwanger has denied the existence
of concentration camps as well as the numbers of people who died at the
hands of Nazis and their collaborators. He tried to twist reality by
stating that the Holocaust was a big lie."
Rio Grande do Sul is one of the wealthiest states in Brazil. It is home to
a sizeable German population and has been the scene of persisting neo-Nazi
and skinhead activities. There are 12,500 Jews in the state, mostly in the
capital. Ellwanger, who is Brazilian-born, is part of a racist, separatist
movement which wants the state to secede from Brazil in order to isolate
itself from other ethnic groups in the country.
B'nai B'rith International President Tommy P. Baer, a lawyer based in
Richmond, Virginia, hailed the decision. "This critical legal decision has
important ramifications for Brazil and all of Latin America. By punishing
this hatemonger, Brazil is working to meet a standard of decency which
will not tolerate bigotry and hatred."
The world's oldest and largest Jewish organization, B'nai B'rith has
members in 56 countries including Brazil and others throughout Latin
America.
<end>
The above was quoted in full too!
How about this gem which makes what Ken McVay said (as documented above)
look like the liar he truly is; "Provide evidence that BB or the ADL have
"destroy free speech." Use your free speech to do so."? Does the following
contradict what McVay said? Yes it does!
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/vancouver-sun.980408.html The Vancouver Sun
April 8, 1998
BC tel asked to cut off net Nazis' connection
William Boei, Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun
[...]
Fairview hosts a group of national and international "hate sites.."
... The propaganda they spread on the Internet rarely fails to get a rise
from Jewish and anti-racist groups. This time, a Winnipeg-based branch of
the B'nai Brith's League for Human Rights and Vancouver's Canadian
Anti-Racism Education and Research Society are asking BC Tel to cut off
Fairview's network connection to the Internet. ... Ken McVay, a British
Columbian who runs the Nizkor Project, a massive on- line archive that
documents and refutes ... <name calling is not refuting> ... McVay has
been fighting hate speech on the Net for six years, compiling archives
<files on private citizens>, offering to establish links between hate
sites and Nizkor's Web site, and responding to virtually every hate post
that appears on the Internet's Usenet section <personal attacks are not
valid responses>. ... "My whole agenda is to try and remove their market,
as it were," McVay said. "They have an agenda to sell. If, by
demonstrating that they are lying <you're the one who has been caught
lying!!> about a specific issue, I can remove a few hundred people from
their potential market place, then I've done them some harm." ... B'nai
Brith, incidentally, covers both ends of the anti-Net-Nazi spectrum. It is
asking BC Tel to sever Fairview from the Net, and it collects donations
for the Nizkor Project." <end>
Comments between < and > were mine!
How many lies is Ken McVay caught in? I show facts and the documents which
prove McVay for what he is and all he can do is make ad hominem personal
attacks and spread lies and falsehoods about those who steadfastly expose
his lies and his evil agenda.
Everyone reading all of the documented material above which resoundingly
proves Ken McVay being a liar take note of how he replies to this very
post. You will see him attack the messenger and yet you will never see him
refute the documented facts on a point for point basis.
All materials were previously posted by Doc Tavish
>You are aligned with people who are documented as; "seeking
>to have people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements
>canceled, having their internet connections terminated, or
>having them arrested etc." Is this sort of activity what you
>call "participating in the democratic process?"
>
>Your making insults and personal attacks regarding serious
>free speech issues shows everyone what sort of person you
>are and it reflects on B'nai Brith and ADL seeing how they
>know and approve of what you do and how you do it. If B'nai
>Brith did not approve of your methods they wouldn't still
>remain your funding arm.
>
>If you think by making personal attacks against people who
>state hard facts and show documentation to prove it then
>you are proving false to the sig line you like using. So
>far you have not applied any facts or logic in your replies
>as your sig line quoted below shows;
>
>"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
> An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
> facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
> The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
>
>You are the one who is; "immune to refutation from either facts or
>logic" and you're the one who hates. If B'nai Brith had any sense at
>all they would see all the ill will you generate with your nasty
>replies when you are confronted with fact and logic. Your damage
>control is worse than that of another liar did for another liar and
>that is what James Carville did for Bill Clinton.
>
>>Bradbury: http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bradbury-scott/
>
>I see you still defame people with the files you keep on
>individuals who are apparently on B'nai Brith's hit list.
McVay certainly proves false to using fact and logic and in this
post alone all one can see is personal attacks and his link to
lies, smear, innuendo and a failed lawsuit against a person.
>Once again; I won't be rude and I will say SHALOM.
>
> Rabbi Benjamin Epstein
One doesn't have to be rude or snide when one has the truth
and the documentation to back it up. It is only people who are
desperate and can't explain away the evidence who have to resort
to personal attacks as the only means of response. All of the
above is a lasting testimony to the methods The Nizkor Project and its
sponsors use. People should never forget such behavior and they
should note Ken McVay will never feel any shame for his behavior
in a public medium.
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Wallace Cleaver wrote:
nothing truthful, snipped.
Ken McVay
Wallace BlatherBlubber Cleaver <WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com> wrote:
>I stated before and will again state; "How is seeking to have
>people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements canceled,
>having their internet connections terminated, or having them
>arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the democratic
>process?" Those aren't the works of those who want "to participate
>in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent of a
>totalitarian regime.
In short, you do not want Jews to participate in the democratic
process. That means:
You do not want Jews to lobby government.
You do not want Jews to express their opinions as citizens.
You do not want Jews to express their opinions as consumers.
In fact, tubby, you don't want Jews to express their opinions at all,
do you?
That's the difference between us, blubberblather. I not only want you
to be free to express your opinions, I *demand* that you be free to do
so.
I *demand* that you have the right to lobby government, even though I
believe your ideas are an anathema to everything dear to our society,
or anyone else's.
I *demand* that you have the right to lobby business, and complain
about practices you do not like, even though I find you to be an
obnoxious example of human flotsam.
I *demand* that you have the right to express your opinion, as a
citizen and a consumer, even though I find you to be a distasteful
lump of excrement.
My ancestors fought and died so that trash like you could do these
things, and I am grateful to them. They made it possible for you to
demonstrate the moral bankruptcy of your lives and beliefs without
government interference, and I thank them for that.
Rather than create a society which would simply express its
loathing of everything you are and everything you stand for, they
created a society in which your ideas were granted - GRANTED - free
expression.
YOU, a White gutter-trash bigot of the worst order, were granted the
right to make an absolute ass of yourself whenever the spirit moved
you.
So, to, were the Jews granted all of these rights, and you, moron,
cannot remove them because you dislike how they choose to express
them.
Live with it, asshole.
--
Wallace Cleaver
>
>In article <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>,
>Wallace BlatherBlubber Cleaver <WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com> wrote:
>
>>I stated before and will again state; "How is seeking to have
>>people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements canceled,
>>having their internet connections terminated, or having them
>>arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the democratic
>>process?" Those aren't the works of those who want "to participate
>>in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent of a
>>totalitarian regime.
Notice that Ken McVay deleted my whole body of proofs.
Notice that Ken McVay changed the subject title.
Notice I won't delete one bit of Ken McVay's diversion below and I will
leave it fully intact so everyone can compare his reply to what I actually
posted which I will restore in full beneath his weak damage control so
everyone may see who is trying to deny who the rights to the demaocratic
process.
Notice who relies on ad hominem personal attacks and smear and notice who
uses facts and logic and then decide who is the truth teller and who is
seeking to divert and deceive. McVay positively can't refute what I post
on a point by p;oint basis.
Here is McVay uncut;
Here is what I posted uncut and in full and compare what I posted below
to how Ken McVay replied above and everyone make their judgments based on
fact instead of knee jerk emotion.
What I posted;
<START>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: The Nizkor Project uses personal attacks instead of facts and
logic (was Re: FlubberGut cuts and runs... again. Bellville moans.)
From: WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com (Wallace Cleaver)
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit)
Message-ID: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
Date: 10 Oct 2002 13:25:24 +0100
On 10 Oct 2002 07:45:38 -0000, <K5PJ46ZY3753...@anonymous.poster>
Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Rabbi Epstein) wrote:
An important famous quote which applies to the following "debate";
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection?"
Auberon Waugh - The London Daily Telegraph - May 9, 1992
Some similar thoughts;
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection under penalty of
prosecution and imprisonment?"
"What sort of truth is it that needs protection by using personal
attacks, intimidation or outright harassment?"
>On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:18:15 GMT, <HY8p9.7937$WG5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
>kmc...@vex.net (Ken McVay) wrote:
>
>>In article <JQN30L0437539.3214236111@anonymous.poster>,
>>Rabbi Epstein <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>How is seeking to have people imprisoned, have their speaking
>>>engagements canceled, having their internet connections terminated,
>>>or having them arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the
>>>democratic process?" Those aren't the works of those who want
>>>"to participate in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent
>>>of a totalitarian regime.
>>
>>Why do you feel that Jews should not be permitted to participate in
>>the democratic process?
>>
>>Quit running from the question, and deal with it, fatso.
>
>Why is it you can only respond with personal attacks? Anyone who
>has the truth does not need to resort to the immature attacks
>you make and as for your question; "Why do you feel that Jews
>should not be permitted to participate in the democratic
>process?"; it was already answered.
>
>I stated before and will again state; "How is seeking to have
>people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements canceled,
>having their internet connections terminated, or having them
>arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the democratic
>process?" Those aren't the works of those who want "to participate
>in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent of a
>totalitarian regime.
>
<end of cited text>
LET US BEGIN!!
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
<end>
[...]
>You are aligned with people who are documented as; "seeking
>to have people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements
>canceled, having their internet connections terminated, or
>having them arrested etc." Is this sort of activity what you
>call "participating in the democratic process?"
>
>Your making insults and personal attacks regarding serious
>free speech issues shows everyone what sort of person you
>are and it reflects on B'nai Brith and ADL seeing how they
>know and approve of what you do and how you do it. If B'nai
>Brith did not approve of your methods they wouldn't still
>remain your funding arm.
>
>If you think by making personal attacks against people who
>state hard facts and show documentation to prove it then
>you are proving false to the sig line you like using. So
>far you have not applied any facts or logic in your replies
>as your sig line quoted below shows;
>
>"...the antisemite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic.
> An antisemite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
> facts or logic." (Matas, David. Bloody Speech, p. 37)
> The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org
>
>You are the one who is; "immune to refutation from either facts or
>logic" and you're the one who hates. If B'nai Brith had any sense at
>all they would see all the ill will you generate with your nasty
>replies when you are confronted with fact and logic. Your damage
>control is worse than that of another liar did for another liar and
>that is what James Carville did for Bill Clinton.
>
>>Bradbury: http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/b/bradbury-scott/
>
>I see you still defame people with the files you keep on
>individuals who are apparently on B'nai Brith's hit list.
McVay certainly proves false to using fact and logic and in this
post alone all one can see is personal attacks and his link to
lies, smear, innuendo and a failed lawsuit against a person.
>Once again; I won't be rude and I will say SHALOM.
>
> Rabbi Benjamin Epstein
One doesn't have to be rude or snide when one has the truth
and the documentation to back it up. It is only people who are
desperate and can't explain away the evidence who have to resort
to personal attacks as the only means of response. All of the
above is a lasting testimony to the methods The Nizkor Project and its
sponsors use. People should never forget such behavior and they
should note Ken McVay will never feel any shame for his behavior
in a public medium.
<STOP>
Watch McVay again avoid the proofs that condemn his a liar and
as a person who takes part in attempting to deny others their
particiapation in the democratic process.
Wallace Cleaver
>
>
>
>Wallace Cleaver wrote:
>
>nothing truthful, snipped.
If that were true then why did you delete all the text instead of refuting it
on a point by point basis which would relly make me look bad? I will make you
really look bad now because I restore what you deleted and I will challenge
you to show where there is "nothing truthful" in what I posted.
<START>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,can.general
Subject: The Nizkor Project uses personal attacks instead of facts and logic
(was Re: FlubberGut cuts and runs... again. Bellville moans.)
From: WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com (Wallace Cleaver)
Message-ID: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
<end of cited text>
LET US BEGIN!!
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/internet.html
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/brazil2.html
<end>
[...]
<STOP>
Now show where "nothing truthful" was posted. You can't do it Susan
and once again you prove before all onlookers how your kind are
self-delusional.
Un-named Student
WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com (Wallace Cleaver) wrote:
If Ken McVay is the best Public Relations Agent B'nai Brith can
hire then it is no wonder why Jews are disliked and distrusted
by so many people. If McVay has to resort to the tactics he does
above as a quasi spokesperson for B'nai Brith then B'nai Brith
is certainly losing its stance in the world community.
Doc Tavish
won't deal with documented facts.
On 11 Oct 2002 02:18:57 +0100, <3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com (Wallace Cleaver) wrote:
>In article <Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>, kmc...@vex.net says...
>>
>>In article <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>,
>>Wallace BlatherBlubber Cleaver <WallyC...@hotmailSPAMmeNOT.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I stated before and will again state; "How is seeking to have
>>>people imprisoned, have their speaking engagements canceled,
>>>having their internet connections terminated, or having them
>>>arrested etc. being "Jews participating in the democratic
>>>process?" Those aren't the works of those who want "to participate
>>>in the democratic process" for it is more reminiscent of a
>>>totalitarian regime.
>
>Notice that Ken McVay deleted my whole body of proofs.
>Notice that Ken McVay changed the subject title.
>
>Notice I won't delete one bit of Ken McVay's diversion below and I will
>leave it fully intact so everyone can compare his reply to what I actually
>posted which I will restore in full beneath his weak damage control so
>everyone may see who is trying to deny who the rights to the demaocratic
>process.
>
>Notice who relies on ad hominem personal attacks and smear and notice who
>uses facts and logic and then decide who is the truth teller and who is
>seeking to divert and deceive. McVay positively can't refute what I post
>on a point by point basis.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/65dfda6c5a071cea?fwc=1
Subject: B'nai Brith/ADL's Agenda Against Free Speech World Wide V3.0 T_1002
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:51:43 -0500
Message-ID: <8fa1k1ta5j5dfrh26...@4ax.com>
The above archive dated October 2, 2005 is an updated installment of what
follows.
>>>Bradbury: http://<smear link munged>/bradbury-scott/
>>
>>I see you still defame people with the files you keep on
>>individuals who are apparently on B'nai Brith's hit list.
>
>McVay certainly proves false to using fact and logic and in this
>post alone all one can see is personal attacks and his link to
>lies, smear, innuendo and a failed lawsuit against a person.
>
>>Once again; I won't be rude and I will say SHALOM.
>>
>> Rabbi Benjamin Epstein
>
>One doesn't have to be rude or snide when one has the truth
>and the documentation to back it up. It is only people who are
>desperate and can't explain away the evidence who have to resort
>to personal attacks as the only means of response. All of the
>above is a lasting testimony to the methods The Nizkor Project and its
>sponsors use. People should never forget such behavior and they
>should note Ken McVay will never feel any shame for his behavior
>in a public medium.
>
><STOP>
>
>Watch McVay again avoid the proofs that condemn him as a liar and
>as a person who takes part in attempting to deny others their
>particiapation in the democratic process.
If Ken McVay is the best Public Relations Agent B'nai Brith can
hire then it is no wonder why Jews are disliked and distrusted
by so many people. If McVay has to resort to the tactics he does
above as a quasi spokesperson for B'nai Brith then B'nai Brith
is certainly losing its stance in the world community.
Proof The Nizkor Project's director Mamzer Kenneth McVay is a dancing puppet to
Jewry:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5ed90e62aa364caf?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned by Jews
Who Use Him as an Attack Dog Against Troublesome Goyim Who Expose their Jewish
Agenda V2.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rs48t1dseff53pr4n...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 23:21:21 GMT
Why Mamzer McVay has a communistic outlook on life and individual liberties of
those who disagree with his MASTER'S agendas:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/10314eedefe3ef63?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 T_1231
Message-ID: <t2ldr1pqdn9eepa1f...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Dec 2005 19:51:12 GMT
McVay's Money Launderer B'nai Brith is also pro-communist:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3f69fd5466002fcd?fwc=1
Subject: B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity V3.0 T_0929
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:54:57 -0500
Message-ID: <4elnj15f6o76v4pla...@4ax.com>
Proof B'nai Brith is Nizkor's Money Launderer:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be
the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be
renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing
how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a
back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary
of those two "bogus" funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay;
he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis
Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID: <ks64r157pj30mgsn9...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
V2.0 Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtu...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently
perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which
B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even
though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is
more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
Tavish
_______________________________________________________________________________
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The Chief Instigator
>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
>won't deal with documented facts.
So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed? No one cares about the
whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 0 (January 22)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, January 24 at Peoria, 7:05
#6
wrote:
>Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>
>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
>>won't deal with documented facts.
>
>So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed? No one cares about the
>whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
Could it be he likes rubbing your nose in it? Could it be he wants
new people to see the facts?
This Tavish fellow sure gets your hackles up.
The Chief Instigator
Could it be that you're driving without a clue? Bradbury's posted the same
crap for years and still wouldn't know a fact if it was rammed up his
trailer-wide ass...and you're acting like you'd fit that description as well.
>This Tavish fellow sure gets your hackles up.
He did at one time, but he's demonstrated what a pitiful imitation of humanity
he is since then...and he's the joke of Bellville. (Your glorious leader
killed himself 60 years ago to duck taking responsibility for his actions. If
you would be as him, you have to follow his example.)
#6
facts with facts of your own?
Your attitude seems that of a loser.
On 23 Jan 2006 17:41:41 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
Mimi Cohen
> Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>
>
>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
>>won't deal with documented facts.
>
>
> So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed? No one cares about the
> whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
Amen! :) (hi Pat)
The Chief Instigator
>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>facts with facts of your own?
>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney. One of
the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury this way:
"We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him and his mental
problems...and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons that
are trivially deduced. Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
#6
wrote:
>#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>
>>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>>facts with facts of your own?
>>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>
>Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
>town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
>Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
May I ask why ya'll did that?
> One of
>the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury this way:
>"We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
>His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him and his mental
>problems...and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons that
>are trivially deduced.
> Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
A little research tells me you lost your job because of this Mr.
Bradcury. Is that correct?
Did I connect any dots?
Wally Cleaver
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>
>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
>>won't deal with documented facts.
>
>So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed?
That is just a second posting of that particular post and the information is as
relevant today as it was in 2002. Kenneth McVay claims Jews are engaging in
democracy when they are actually being totalitarian and seeking to have people
imprisoned for merely espousing opinions Jews don't like. LIVE WITH IT YOU
BONEHEAD.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
Tavish
Wally Cleaver
>On 23 Jan 2006 17:13:24 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>>
>>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
>>>won't deal with documented facts.
>>
>>So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed? No one cares about the
>>whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
>
>Could it be he likes rubbing your nose in it?
He does get miffed doesn't he and then he acts stupid by only posting where I
live and/or hurling the same insults rather than refuting what I post he only
looks bad and boslters my position.
>Could it be he wants new people to see the facts?
BINGO!! You hit the nail on the head but Patrick ad the rest know that too but
they would never admit my posts are being read and circulated.
>This Tavish fellow sure gets your hackles up.
I OWN Patrick Lee Humphrey. I post what I post on my own schedule and volition
and he spends hours of his time monitoring my activity and then he can only hurl
insults. If shite like Humphrey and McVay are the best the anti-Christs have for
damage control then their future isn't very bright.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5ed90e62aa364caf?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned by Jews
Who Use Him as an Attack Dog Against Troublesome Goyim Who Expose their Jewish
Agenda V2.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rs48t1dseff53pr4n...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 23:21:21 GMT
Tavish
Wally Cleaver
>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>facts with facts of your own?
He can't because he has no facts. He only has his big mouth to hurl insults as
if that disproves what I post.
>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
You are very perceptive.
Something else Patrick hates to see:
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with
the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." BUT I have "demonstrated" the
association between the Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation -
Nizkor Fund and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
Tavish
Wally Cleaver
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>
>>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>>facts with facts of your own?
>>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>
>Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
>town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
>Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew her
hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a negative one.
>One of the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury this way:
>"We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
Funny how you liars keep changing your story!
~~Sara Salzman's conflicting lies concerning my local law enforcement~~
1) 22 Jul 2003 "Policeman: We have a name for Mr. Bradbury, but I can't say it
in mixed company."
2) 07 Nov 2003 "The deputy sherrif we spoke to also had a name for Mr. Bradbury,
but said he wouldn't repeat it "in mixed company, and in front of children."
3) 25 Jan 2004 "The local Sheriff told us that they have a name for you but
"couldn't repeat it in mixed company."
4) 25 Jul 2005 "[T]he police folks we spoke to said they _did_ have a special
name for him, but they wouldn't repeat it in mixed company."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0d711ad4bced9b85
(Archived locally as: SDS_Defamation_4)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: We Have Met The Enemy...
Date: 22 Jul 2003
2) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ebdc63494ff3b481
(Archived locally as: SDS_Defamation_3)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: 3rd PING: Tommy... running away again?
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:08:43 -0700
3) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2a9b66595b986823
(Archived locally as: SDS_Defamation_1)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Patrick L Humphrey laughing at R. Scott Bradbury again
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:18:59 -0700
4) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f273677f0a167b2d
(Archived locally as: SDS_Defamation_2)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Scott Bradbury-He Is Still Active
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:16:47 -0600
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So Sara; who said: "We have a name for Mr. Bradbury, but I can't say it in mixed
company"? A policeman, a Deputy Sheriff, the Sheriff, or "police folks"?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
>His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him
They are well aware of how I have been criminally harassed and they know who is
behind it all too.
>and his mental problems...
You are the one with mental problems and my local officials saw your confessions
too!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aero貞.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
Why does Patrick know so much about my residence but denies stalking me!!?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
----Patrick Lee Humphrey = Documented Self Confessed Peeping Tom----
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
>and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons that
>are trivially deduced.
Oh but I have.
> Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
Still the loser and always the liar- that's you Patrick "Stalker" Humphrey who
got fired from Rice University for stalking people.
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Info UPDATED LINKS S_0202
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
(EXCERPTED)
WHAT IS STALKING?
STALKING - pattern of words or conduct that is intended to cause and does cause
the targeted person to fear death, assault, bodily injury, or CSC upon the
person or member of the person's family.
HARASSMENT - pattern of intentional substantial and unreasonable intrusion
which causes the targeted person to suffer mental distress. A suspect must be
provided notice that contact is unwanted.
PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BEHAVIORAL PROFILE OF STALKERS
Simple Obsession Stalkers:
Simple obsession stalkers represent 70 to 80% of all stalking cases.
Characteristics include:
1 personality disorders.
2 emotional immaturity, jealousy and extreme insecurity.
3 inability to succeed in relationships by socially-accepted means.
4 dominating and intimidating victims in order to bolster own self-esteem.
5 biggest fear is losing the victim.
6 believing their lives have no worth without the victim.
7 turning to violence in order to control every aspect of the victim's life
STALKING BEHAVIOR PATTERNS AND CYCLES
1 Attempts at intimidation often begin in the form of an unjustified, jealous
and inappropriate intrusion into the victim's life.
2 Contacts become more numerous and intrusive over time, until such conduct
becomes a persistent pattern of harassment.
TYPES OF STALKING BEHAVIOR
1 visiting or following the victim
2 harassing telephone calls, which includes obscene calls and hang-ups
3 sending threatening mail, which is a federal felony
4 trespassing
5 vandalism
WHAT IS STALKING BEHAVIOR?
Stalking has been referred to as a "building block crime" because it usually
starts with small incidents that can get more and more serious. These incidents
can include such behaviors as:
1) following
2) watching
3) spying
4) tracking someone
==END==================================================================
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>
Wally Cleaver
Again you Jews prove my point about Jews and their minions only being able to
hurl insults rather than dealing with facts YET you all wonder why you all are
being despised by more people world wide.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/a512f7c8dd7d1352?fwc=1
Subject: "Anti-Semitism is spreading around the world in a kind of tsunami
effect", says Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks. BBC News
Message-ID: <29hgr1hiluht4sqjd...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Jan 2006 21:28:18 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/a1f67a4fdf64a61f
Subject: Anti-semitism on rise worldwide aka Anti-Semitism in Sweden (Expanded)
V2.0 S_0201 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 06:51:44 -0600
Message-ID: <eksp10dhmvhl7iq5v...@4ax.com>
[The above archive relates to the rising anti-Semitism (against Jews) in Sweden,
Greece, France, Germany, The United States and elsewhere!]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/20deae4bedc378ab?fwc=1
Subject: Hatred of Jews at highest level since WWII and Some Apparent Reasons
Why! V2.0 R_0516
Message-ID: <sk19cv813lllab4b1...@4ax.com>
Date: 16 May 2003 06:36:04 GMT
What you can't deal with and which condemns Jews:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
LIVE WITH IT YOU ANTI-CHRISTIC SWINE
Tavish
-- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.
Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in just
two verses of scripture!
He brought out in just two verses:
1) "those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was not the least bit
bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus" which the Churches of
Christendom won't do!
3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."
Regarding "2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was
not the least bit bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus"
which most of the Churches of Christendom won't do!" see this archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c?fwc=1
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
I might as well throw this in seeing how I mentioned "Hate Crimes."
Historically, who do most people think were more brutal- Nazis or
Pharisees?
(One example) Persecution and torture:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] "Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and
persecute from town to town...." [Tavish comment: The words just stated were
addressed to the Jewish Pharisee Rabbis!]
[To scourge means to lash or whip severely. Imagine Jews chasing people from
town to town and flogging them in their Jewish synagogues! I don't think even
the Nazis rounded up Jews and flogged them in Christendom's Churches!! What Jews
did happened and it is documented in the Bible for all to see! Tavish]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26?fwc=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
Sara Salzman
#6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
> wrote:
>
> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
> >
> >>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
> >>facts with facts of your own?
> >>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
> >
> >Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
> >town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
> >Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
>
> May I ask why ya'll did that?
I can answer that one. Bradbury INVITED me to come to Belleville and
"re-file" a case against him that I had never filed.
As I had already planned a trip to Texas with my son to pick my daughter
up from her summer camp, I decided I would combine it with a trip to
Belleville. Many people expressed concerns about my safety, considering
the number of violent threats Mr. Bradbury had made in this very forum
against any number of people.
Therefore, I asked another Texas resident who I wanted to meet to join
me there.
I then called the Sheriff of Austin County and the District Attorney,
and asked if I could make an appointment to speak with them about the
situation with Mr. Bradbury. Bradbury had been insisting that I would be
arrested on sight if I appeared in his town -- as if he had the power to
"ban" me from entering a public square in an American town.
It didn't matter though. As soon as Bradbury found out I was actually
planning to come, he left town like the frightened chickenshit he is.
I had a delightful afternoon meeting with Patrick Humphrey and his wife,
and the four of us met with the DA and the ACSD deputies.
Since Mr. Bradbury was too frightened to actually meet me (I understand
he is still a virgin and terrified of actually meeting women), he
decided instead to create a series of lies and slander about what took
place when I was there. But the FACTS are exactly as Mr. Humphrey stated
below.
>
> > One of
> >the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury this way:
> >"We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
> >His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him and his mental
> >problems...and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons
> >that
> >are trivially deduced.
>
>
> > Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
>
> A little research tells me you lost your job because of this Mr.
> Bradcury. Is that correct?
> Did I connect any dots?
No, you didn't. Mr. Bradbury likes to claim victory when anything
happens to anyone. The facts, however, are nothing at all like Mr.
Bradbury's fantasies.
When an attorney puts himself on the inactive list in order to attend to
personal and family business, Mr. Bradbury claims he is responsible for
it. It's truly pathetic.
Sara
--
The Jews may think all people are stupid when I reality the are watch ever
move you people make.
An old German saying is the Jews will give nothing for what you did have
before. The Jews supporting poor black people means there will be absolutely
no return of some of the money this alone speaks for itself.
-- Kurt Knoll.
The Chief Instigator
>Amen! :) (hi Pat)
Welcome to the brawl...might as well use Fatbury for target practice.
Everyone else does.
The Chief Instigator
>On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:08:36 -0800, <FSgBf.11010$ZA5.2817@fed1read05> Mimi Cohen
><mimiNO...@cox.net> wrote:
>>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>> Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>>>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults
>>>>and won't deal with documented facts.
>>> So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed? No one cares about the
>>> whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
>>Amen! :) (hi Pat)
>Again you Jews prove my point about Jews and their minions only being able to
>hurl insults rather than dealing with facts YET you all wonder why you all are
>being despised by more people world wide.
Again, you prove that you're just an illiterate and psychotic who hates
anything even remotely Jewish with a passion. Your Führer had that same
attitude, and look what happened to him. You might want to read a little
Santayana, in that case.
The Chief Instigator
>On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
>wrote:
>>#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>>>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>>>facts with facts of your own?
>>>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>>Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
>>town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
>>Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
>May I ask why ya'll did that?
Because Sara was in state - her daughter was in camp out west of Austin - and
we have mutual friends in San Antonio. Since Bellville was all of a two-hour
drive from San Antonio, why not touch base with the law enforcers of the
county and city Fatbury lives in?
>> One of the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury
>>this way: "We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
>>His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him and his mental
>>problems...and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons
>>that are trivially deduced.
>> Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
>A little research tells me you lost your job because of this Mr.
>Bradcury. Is that correct? Did I connect any dots?
No, you didn't, as usual...I was fired from Rice, but not because of anything
your Jew-hating T. Cornpone hero did. Prove me wrong.
The Chief Instigator
>On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, <szkbqy2...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>>>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>>>facts with facts of your own?
>>>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>>Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
>>town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
>>Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
>They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
>complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew her
>hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a negative one.
Where did Sara say she was going to file a complaint, 55-year-old virgin of
Bellville?
>>One of the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury
>>this way: "We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
>Funny how you liars keep changing your story!
Even funnier how your own county's law officers were laughing at you, Blimpie
Boy.
You *are* at your front door 24/7/365.2422, I trust...since you never know
when we may be passing through Bellville on our way to/from Austin. ;-)
The Chief Instigator
>On 23 Jan 2006 17:13:24 -0600, <szkslre...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
>>>Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults
>>>and won't deal with documented facts.
>>So why do you keep reposting the same moldy screed?
>That is just a second posting of that particular post and the information is
>as relevant today as it was in 2002. Kenneth McVay claims Jews are engaging
>in democracy when they are actually being totalitarian and seeking to have
>people imprisoned for merely espousing opinions Jews don't like. LIVE WITH IT
>YOU BONEHEAD.
You're ranting at a Canadian who has nothing to do with this country's laws?
Live with it, Failed Nazi of Bellville!
Beaver Cleaver
<catamont-C415C2...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <bhkbt11kcbv5lj01e...@4ax.com>,
> #6 <TN2@#6.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>> >
>> >>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>> >>facts with facts of your own?
>> >>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>> >
>> >Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
>> >town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
>> >Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
>>
>> May I ask why ya'll did that?
>
>I can answer that one. Bradbury INVITED me to come to Belleville
That is another lie which I will expose right now. I did not INVITE you to come.
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/514d1e8240b88a7c?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting" and From Whence It Came!
V5.0 (Corrections Made) T_0822
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:49:21 -0500
Message-ID: <ukojg1d6n0obssupo...@4ax.com>
Excerpt:
Sara Salzman had squealed:
>>> -- AND too ill to travel. Yet you managed to come up with the cash -- and the
>>>strength -- to travel when I took you up on your offer to meet you at
>>>the Courthouse. (Insert Bradbury's "You didn't "fulfill the requirements
>>>of re-filing..." the case I never filed in the first place.)
>>
>>That is right! You are lying about that too! I made no offer to hear a fat
>>hysterical lying pig like you rant and rave! (Anyone who doubts what sort of
>>beast Sara is this picture will speak a thousand words:
>>http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif )
>>Care to show where I ever stated I wanted to see your ugly mug and hear you
>>rant?
>>
>>In fact I stated (and this was posted BEFORE you decided to pay me a visit):
>>
>>On 11 Jul 2003 18:34:38 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> <catamont-A637E1...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
>> "Day, time, place. I'm waiting. Sara"
>
>Can you enlighten us as to why Sara Salzman issued her _Day, time, place. I'm
>waiting_ challenge in the first place? Your reply was a good answer.
Will do just below the quoted text below.
>Ciao
This is the post in which I posted the "terms" below:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3787fb0a1fbc8ed0
(Archived locally as: JustSayNoToSaraTheKook_2)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white, alt.revisionism
From: Gilbert Bates <gilbert_bates@mayfield01net>
Date: 14 Jul 2003 00:13:44 GMT
Local: Sun, Jul 13 2003 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: THE COWARD OF DOGPATCH LIES AGAIN
Message-ID: <fnt3hvs8hiou5ado5...@4ax.com>
>> My answer: Anytime and any day. The place: my local courthouse
>> (my jurisdiction).
>>You and Yale F. Edeiken re-file the same exact perjurious lawsuit against me
>>with those same perjurious accusations and YOUR same perjurious affidavit.
I could have worded the above first sentence in a better way so that Sara
Salzman could understand my intent (people of sound minds knew my intent)
possibly as: "I want you to persuade Yale F. Edeiken to re-file his frivolous
lawsuit against me in my jurisdiction and you to accompany him to read before
the judge and jury your affidavit against me..."
>>I would like for YOU to explain to a jury of my peers why YOU and Yale "bore false
>>witness" against me and why you two are not responsible for all of the criminal
>>harassment I have had done to me. I want YOU and Yale to deny causing the
>>harassment I have been subjected to because of my address being distributed and
>>the info being used criminally. I want Yale to state his motive for subpoenaing
>>my medical record and then lying about what it stated. I will show copies to the
>>jury and have Yale explain how he deduced it stated "morbid obesity" and that I
>>weighed well over 300 pounds when there are no height nor weight fields on it
>>and the diagnosis was: "sleep apnea, narcolepsy, vertigo." I want YOU to explain
>>why the telephone number YOU distributed was different than the one the subpoena
>>stated and how YOU knew it seeing how it was unlisted number. I want YOU and
>>Yale to prove what I ever actually did to either of you that I deserve all of
>>the ill treatment I have been subjected to because of legal system abuse. I want
>>YOU and Yale to explain why I am accountable for what a person in another state
>>and another country allegedly did so that I get harassed as a proxy of your
>>vindictiveness. I want YOU to explain why I, nor David Michael, or our attorneys
>>were never served with the complaints against us YET after the lawsuit was
>>dismissed in my favor then the "complaints" were posted and distributed giving
>>out my address and new telephone number. I want YOU to tell a jury of my peers
>>what the purpose was for YOU to do that to me. IF YOU TWO VILE EVIL SH*TS DON'T
>>RE-FILE THEN LET IT BE KNOWN FOREVER THAT YOU TWO ARE COWARDS AND THAT LAWSUIT
>>HAD NO REAL VALIDITY IN THE FIRST PLACE!! IF YOU DON'T DO ALL OF THIS THEN IT IS
>>YOU AND YALE WHO ARE THE COWARDS!! MAKE YOUR SAME ACCUSATIONS TO MY FACE IN
>>FRONT OF A JURY OF MY PEERS AT MY COURTHOUSE IN MY JURISDICTION!!
>> ARE YOU UP TO IT YOU PERJURIOUS COWARD!?
>>
>><END>
Sara in her stupidity and not understanding what was posted replied with:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/82f6e7edaccb4545
(Archived locally as: SDS_DayTimePlace_4)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: THE COWARD OF DOGPATCH LIES AGAIN
Date: 14 Jul 2003 03:16:28 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-D253CE...@tribune.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
In article <2l74hvshcn38pbh24...@4ax.com>,
Larry Mondello <larry_mondello@mayfield01net> wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2003 01:54:34 GMT,
> <catamont-159327...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >
> >You're welcome. See you in two weeks.
>
> NO! I don't want to see your ugly face in two weeks. You re-file the Edeiken
> Vs Bradbury 1999-C-2786 lawsuit officially and have it served and the local
> attorney I consulted about the defamation being made against me because of
> that lawsuit will be my attorney. He was the one who told me about Statute of
> Limitations and that he could only do something if it were re-opened in this
> jurisdiction. He already has some preliminary material as well. So....bring
> it on perjurer-- you would look just dandy in an orange jump suit. Perjury is
> prosecuted in my county!
>
> Tavish
> >Sara
Sorry, Coward. You said:
> In article <fnt3hvs8hiou5ado5...@4ax.com>,
> Gilbert Bates <gilbert_bates@mayfield01net> wrote:
> My answer: Anytime and any day. The place: my local courthouse
> (my jurisdiction).
<<Tavish comment August 6, 2005: Everyone noticed how Sara conveniently left out
ALL of the other stuff which showed my intent?>>
And I accepted. You've invited me, and I have it in writing.
<<Tavish comment August 6, 2005: I see no "invitation" in all that Salzman
deleted!>>
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Now to answer Steve's question about Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting":
>>On 11 Jul 2003 18:34:38 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> <catamont-A637E1...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
>> "Day, time, place. I'm waiting. Sara"
First the URL to the above is:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9edcebc650f7fe91
(Archived locally as: SDS_DayTimePlace_1)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: CAN DOGPATCH RESIDENT FACE REALITY?
Date: 11 Jul 2003 18:34:38 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2003 1:34 pm
Message-ID: <catamont-A637E1...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
References: <86engvo6mm7pr63kc...@4ax.com>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<aca9dd48.0307...@posting.google.com>
<ifcsgv408o5528tu7...@4ax.com> <szk8yr5ps...@hagbard.io.com>
<f6htgvk9fj5j1bq4a...@4ax.com> <szkel0x...@fnord.io.com>
<brmtgvkpavaqvef3v...@4ax.com> <szkadbl...@fnord.io.com>
<mkntgvcctta28mfh9...@4ax.com>
The above was the "challenge" made by Salzman to which I replied as I did as
shown higher up but at the very bottom of this current reply post is the post I
made which triggered it; see that Message ID referenced in Sara's headers
<86engvo6mm7pr63kc...@4ax.com> which is the first reference? I
show the post which is the start of the thread at the very bottom of this
current posting.
BTW the rant above was "Local: Fri, Jul 11 2003 1:34 pm" and here is one more
and the local time as archived by GOOGLE:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d4408b801e195dd2
(Archived locally as: SDS_DayTimePlace_2)
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Date: 11 Jul 2003 18:31:51 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2003 1:31 pm
Subject: DOGPATCH RESIDENTS, ARISE!
Message-ID: <catamont-AC7FCE...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
"Pick your day, pick your place, plck your time..."
My terse reply to Sara's "challenge" had been (and still is):
[In the same exact thread too!]
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/2a117f835dc643c2
(Archived locally as: JustSayNoToSaraTheKook_1)
From: Wally Cleaver <wally_cleaver@mayfield01net>
Date: 12 Jul 2003 04:47:51 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2003 11:47 pm
Subject: Arthur J Tandy's Attempt to Smear by Using GOOGLE Search is Flawed--
Like He Is! aka Re: CAN DOGPATCH RESIDENT FACE REALITY?
Message-ID: <m54vgv4hrbnqnhqau...@4ax.com>
On 11 Jul 2003 21:16:00 -0700, <aca9dd48.0307112016.17e71...@posting.google.com>
sailor572...@yahoo.com (sailor57) wrote:
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
<news:catamont-A637E1...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9edcebc650f7fe91
(Archived locally as: SDS_DayTimePlace_3)
>> In article <mkntgvcctta28mfh9dqse4lcmk63uÂ20...@4ax.com>,
>> JEW HATING T CORNPONE<wally_cleaver@mayfielÂd01net> wrote:
>>
>> July 20-24th: Day, time, place.
>>
>> I'm waiting.
Don't hold your breath wh*re. If you want to press charges or litigate come to
my town and mind you by subjecting yourself to the legal system of my
jurisdiction I will be able to resolve some old matters myself. Seems you
perjured against me and you were also an accomplice to Yale's criminal acts
against me. As for meeting for any other reason I say NO!
<<Tavish comment August 6, 2005: That last statement was declared before the fat
squealing pig showed up and NOT for the reason I had stated as shown higher up
in this very post. Sara has lost contact with reality and she can't comprehend
basic concepts but what can one expect from a person who has publicly declared:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
>> Sara
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
>and "re-file" a case against him that I had never filed.
My intent was for the kook lawsuit to be re-filed and your affidavit being read
in my jurisdiction whereupon I was going to have charges of perjury pressed
against you- you fat lying swine!
>As I had already planned a trip to Texas with my son to pick my daughter
>up from her summer camp, I decided I would combine it with a trip to
>Belleville. Many people expressed concerns about my safety, considering
>the number of violent threats Mr. Bradbury had made in this very forum
>against any number of people.
What threats? Your fellow filth are the ones who made death threats and threats
of violence against me! Care to deny it you fat swine?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/962b0ee5562de12d?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "USENET IS NOT THE REAL WORLD" and What Jews Have Done
When They Can't Refute Their Opponents V1.5 U_0121
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:36:43 -0600
Message-ID: <mrk5t1ljccebve410...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------
V1.0 of the above post and the exchanges because of it:
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2be328d48af9d1ff?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "USENET IS NOT THE REAL WORLD" and What Jews Have Done
When They Can't Refute Their Opponents V1.0
Message-ID: <nf5jr1tuo1sstnmvq...@4ax.com>
Date: 2 Jan 2006 21:24:47 GMT
(If "USENET IS NOT THE REAL WORLD" Sara it is therefore a "fantasy world" and if
so then why does B'nai Brith and ADL monitor it and why do you Jews get hostile
over all those posts being posted in a "fantasy world" if they are just fantasy
from, as you claim, NOT THE REAL WORLD?)
Sara D. Salzman's pathetic reply to the above V1.0 post to prove even more how
Jews act when the truth about them is made public:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/b2838622bdba30f3?fwc=1
From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Scott Bradbury is a Psychotic Cross-Poster
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:49:09 -0700
Message-ID: <catamont-DB4853...@news.giganews.com>
References: <nf5jr1tuo1sstnmvq...@4ax.com>
(Name call and personal attacks are all the Neo-Pharisees have as a means of
reply to cold hard facts!)
~~Yale F.Edeiken's ICEPICK Death Threat Post He Addressed to Me~~
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/92bdb523cee12857?fwc=1
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/92bdb523cee12857?dmode=source&hl=en
(Archived locally as: YFE_ice-pick_Threat_1 and YFE_ice-pick_Threat_2 and
YFE_ice-pick_Threat_2.jpg)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: I am going to ruin Scott Bradbury's life.
Date: 2000/07/07
Message-ID: <3965E489...@enter.net>
X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <ab...@enter.net>, We Care <ab...@newsread.com>
X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 962978958 207.16.155.112 (Fri, 07 Jul 2000
10:09:18 EDT)
Organization: ENTER.net (enter.net)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,sci.skeptic
Hey you little shit, that forgery was the last straw. I am going to
forever fuck up your life and I hope that someone takes an icepick and
works you over from head to toe. Fuck, I might evne do it you little
fuckhead or pay someone to do it.
--YFE
The Holocaust History Project is at http://www.holocaust-history.org/
The Einsatzgruppen page is at http://www.pgonline.com/electriczen/
The Cybrary of the Holocaust is at http://www.remember.org/
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
(For a fact I made no forgery and Yale "Fatboy" Edeiken is a "mentally unstable
crazy man" who suffers from schizoid paranoia.) That isn't the only death threat
that the criminal shyster posted either! In December 1999 Yale F. Edeiken posted
my unlisted telephone number, address etc he obtained using a forged subpoena
not issued by the court with the invitation that people pay me a visit with
baseball bats as described in full detail here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/93263479c9c0be6c?fwc=1
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!) V3.0 U_0101
Message-ID: <fh3gr19kqo8jhoqgu...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Jan 2006 18:33:33 GMT
------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?... Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
-----------------------------
>Therefore, I asked another Texas resident who I wanted to meet to join
>me there.
>
>I then called the Sheriff of Austin County and the District Attorney,
>and asked if I could make an appointment to speak with them about the
>situation with Mr. Bradbury. Bradbury had been insisting that I would be
>arrested on sight if I appeared in his town --
I don't recall making that claim. I said if the kook lawsuit were to be tried in
my jurisdiction then two perjurers would be arrested!! Care to deny that?
>as if he had the power to "ban" me from entering a public square in an American town.
>
>It didn't matter though. As soon as Bradbury found out I was actually
>planning to come, he left town like the frightened chickenshit he is.
That is another lie you keep telling you fat swine and here is what I told you
BEFORE you came:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/2a117f835dc643c2
(Archived locally as: JustSayNoToSaraTheKook_1)
From: Wally Cleaver <wally_cleaver@mayfield01net>
Date: 12 Jul 2003 04:47:51 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2003 11:47 pm
Subject: Arthur J Tandy's Attempt to Smear by Using GOOGLE Search is Flawed--
Like He Is! aka Re: CAN DOGPATCH RESIDENT FACE REALITY?
Message-ID: <m54vgv4hrbnqnhqau...@4ax.com>
On 11 Jul 2003 21:16:00 -0700, <aca9dd48.0307112016.17e71...@posting.google.com>
sailor572...@yahoo.com (sailor57) wrote:
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
<news:catamont-A637E1...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9edcebc650f7fe91
(Archived locally as: SDS_DayTimePlace_3)
>> In article <mkntgvcctta28mfh9dqse4lcmk63uÂ20...@4ax.com>,
>> JEW HATING T CORNPONE<wally_cleaver@mayfielÂd01net> wrote:
>>
>> July 20-24th: Day, time, place.
>>
>> I'm waiting.
Don't hold your breath wh*re. If you want to press charges or litigate come to
my town and mind you by subjecting yourself to the legal system of my
jurisdiction I will be able to resolve some old matters myself. Seems you
perjured against me and you were also an accomplice to Yale's criminal acts
against me. As for meeting for any other reason I say NO!
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
What did I tell you in plain English BEFORE you drove all those miles?
>I had a delightful afternoon meeting with Patrick Humphrey and his wife,
>and the four of us met with the DA and the ACSD deputies.
>
>Since Mr. Bradbury was too frightened to actually meet me (I understand
>he is still a virgin and terrified of actually meeting women), he
>decided instead to create a series of lies and slander about what took
>place when I was there.
You are exposing yourself as being the CRACKPOT my former attorney said you
were!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c1ab5163934419f4?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Lies about her Being a Crackpot As Well as Other Lies
V2.0 U_0121
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:35:11 -0600
Message-ID: <qok5t1tf5hev7f7m6...@4ax.com>
>But the FACTS are exactly as Mr. Humphrey stated below.
>
>> >One of the ACSD deputies summed up the organization's regard of Bradbury this way:
>> >"We have a name for him, but we don't use it in polite complany."
Funny how you liars keep changing your story!
~~Sara Salzman's conflicting lies concerning my local law enforcement~~
>> >His local law-enforcement community is well aware of him
They are well aware of how I have been criminally harassed and they know who is
behind it all too.
>> >and his mental problems...
You are the one with mental problems and my local officials saw your confessions
too!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeroÂs.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
>> >and he's never made an official complaint to them, for reasons that are trivially deduced.
Oh but I have!
>>
>> > Connect the dots, little incompetent Nazi shill.
>>
>> A little research tells me you lost your job because of this Mr. Bradcury. Is that correct?
I did not lose my job on account of Patrick's defamatory claims but Patrick lost
his at Rice for stalking people:
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>
>> Did I connect any dots?
>
>No, you didn't. Mr. Bradbury likes to claim victory when anything
>happens to anyone. The facts, however, are nothing at all like Mr.
>Bradbury's fantasies.
You are in very deep denial.
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7771395b27c10fe6
Subject: Why Does Sara Salzman Keep Evading The Real Reason Yale F. Edeiken Went
Into Hiding? aka Re: BLTN: Bradbury Lacking Twin Neurons V2.0 T_0802
Message-ID: <53b0f1d2m70eln84u...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Aug 2005 02:47:09 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58210ba65c45c1aa
Subject: Why Yale F. Edeiken LOST His Appeal. (Updated Links) V2-0
Message-ID: <it34c154u8rau67d3...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jun 2005 03:53:01 GMT
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Why is it none of my foes wants to discuss why Yale F. Edeiken dropped his
appeal and went into hiding rather than having his alleged "Findings of Fact"
go back before the judge!? I was more than willing BUT he went into hiding
and hasn't been heard from since though he "speaks" through his numerous
cretinous supporters who approve of his criminal behavior!
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Yale knew his forgeries and perjury were about to be exposed! That is why he
fled from getting justice like the coward he truly is!
------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: <msohq1ltuiv3fdvpr...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Keenan Approving of Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of
Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal Acts? aka Re: Why won't Sara Salzman respond to
her challenge being met by proof being provided? V2.0 T_0931
Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/37518764fff1a83c?fwc=1
Subject: The "RETURN TO STALKER" Myth Debunked V3.0 T_1002
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 10:40:14 -0500
Message-ID: <kluvj1t2i5754obha...@4ax.com>
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2231c59be0f8464b
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V4-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <ag63f19prg9qhbmh4...@4ax.com>
Date: 4 Aug 2005 04:38:56 GMT
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Attorney Inquiry:
ID Last First Middle City Status
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
40290 Edeiken Yale F. Allentown INACTIVE <-------!
3102 Miller XXXX Arthur Philadelphia DECEASED
X7XXX Miller Adrienne XXXXX XXXXXX ACTIVE
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>When an attorney puts himself on the inactive list in order to attend to
>personal and family business, Mr. Bradbury claims he is responsible for
>it. It's truly pathetic.
The Disciplinary Board also places attorneys on the INACTIVE status list as
well! Care to deny it?
~~Yale F. Edeiken = DISCIPLINED Pathological Liar~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2231c59be0f8464b
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V4-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <ag63f19prg9qhbmh4...@4ax.com>
Yale F. Edeiken had already received one "Private Reprimand" in 1993 and had
received an "Informal Admonition" in 1995 and then received "PUBLIC CENSURE" in
1998 and then he claimed this after the three disciplinary actions: "Recently
net terrorist Scott Bradbury and his accomplice Lord Haw Haw have printed the
fact that my name exists on a list of attorneys placed on some website. I have
never been charged with any unethical activity relating to the practice of law."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdfddbb68d1d5b39?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: YaleSuedTwice and YaleSuedTwice2)
From: "Yale F. Edeiken" <ya...@enter.net>
Subject: KOOK WEBSITE
Date: 2000/01/02
Message-ID: <3870...@news3.enter.net>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The web site was entirely correct in its report on Yale F. Edeiken!
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http://www.clr.org/pa.html (Archived locally as: clr-org_pa)
Judicial/Attorney Misconduct in Pennsylvania
Following are some of the attorneys or judges who have been reported to
have been disciplined by the State of Pennsylvania for unethical conduct, who
may be a resident of the State of Pennsylvania but was disciplined in another
jurisdiction, transferred to inactive status, sued for malpractice,
incarcerated, whom we understand have been charged with unethical conduct, have
engaged in conduct which tends to defeat the administration of justice, or to
bring the courts and the legal business into disrepute, etc.
[...]
Yale F. Edeiken --Attorney at Law - Supreme Court ID# 40290 (Allentown, PA)
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For a fact Yale F. Edeiken was "disciplined"
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
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PER CURIAM:
AND NOW, this 20th day of April, 1998, upon consideration of the Report and
Recommendations of the Disciplinary Board dated February 26, 1998, it is hereby
ORDERED that Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire be subjected to a PUBLIC CENSURE by the
Supreme Court.
It is further ORDERED that Respondent shall pay costs to the Disciplinary
Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), Pa.R.D.E.
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Click this link for the full details of Yale's PUBLIC CENSURE and criminal
conviction for assaulting a female deputy sheriff:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lawyers/msg/2231c59be0f8464b
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V4-0 T_0803
Message-ID: <ag63f19prg9qhbmh4...@4ax.com>
Proof Shyster Yale F. Edeiken is now "INACTIVE." Here is what the Pennsylvania
State Supreme Court Attorney Registration shows:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/office_of_sec.html
"The Office of the Secretary serves as the Controller, Personnel/Administrative
Office, Attorney Registration Office, Prothonotary and Secretary of the Board,
and is Liaison between the Supreme Court, the Board, the Hearing Committees, and
the Office of Disciplinary Counsel." At the web page you are given these links:
Pennsylvania Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/pa_attorney.html
Disciplined Attorneys:
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/disciplined_attorneys.html
Click that top link and enter in Yale's Supreme Court ID: 40290 and you will
get:
Attorney Inquiry
ID Last First Middle City Status
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
40290 Edeiken Yale F. Allentown INACTIVE Discipline
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attsearchdc2.php?ss=40290&st=Attorney_ID&Submit=Submit
(Archived locally as: TubbyIsINACTIVE)
>Sara
~~Advice Which Sara Salzman Needs BUT Won't Heed~~
"Fat, high on drugs, and retarded is no way for you to go through life Sara D.
Salzman" and here is what I recommend:
1) Go on a diet and get some exercise which you need desperately. Sitting at
your computer and annoying people is not helping your waste line one bit.
2) Stop doing drugs. They are affecting your mind in a most negative way.
3) Practice the two suggestions above and perhaps your retardation won't be so
severe but one can't expect miracles from years of abuse.
4) Stop telling lies to end your continually being shamed by the lies being
exposed. Don't you have any pride at all?
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Compelling proofs all of the above are rightful observations:
1) Sara D. Salzman being fat:
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
2) Sara D. Salzman is a drug user:
"The funniest part of this is that, although I do smoke cigarettes (as
did my ex-husband), HE was the one who abused drugs." - Sara Salzman
Message-ID: <catamont-D20A99...@news.concentric.net>
(Archived locally as: SDSdruggieHome)
Funny that Sara denies doing drugs above BUT she states such as shown below!
"Please let me know what drugs you're taking. They sound wonderful!" - Sara
Salzman Message-ID: <schwartz-180...@cmh-p028.infinet.com>
(Archived locally as: SaraSplainsAll_3 and SaraSplainsAll_4)
3) Sara D. Salzman is retarded:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!" - Sara Salzman
Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
(Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2)
4) Sara D. Salzman is a pathological liar who has also perjured herself.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/74d17effed6ddec?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's Recent Lies Documented and Archived. V2.0 T_0807
Message-ID: <9sedf1tc6173cb8ko...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/514d1e8240b88a7c?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting" and From Whence It Came!
V5.0 (Corrections Made) T_0822
Message-ID: <ukojg1d6n0obssupo...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddf877bf49b153c2?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality Revealed.
Message-ID: <o3vfe1tnijjcpqq44...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c1ab5163934419f4?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Lies about her Being a Crackpot As Well as Other Lies
V2.0 U_0121
Message-ID: <qok5t1tf5hev7f7m6...@4ax.com>
~~Sara Salzman Caught Lying About Using The Media For Her Own Agenda~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/86055f63edf2cd18?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: TAV_1 and TAV_2)
Subject: Re: Why does Sara Salzman run from her challenge of wanting proof
after it has been provided? Why won't she own up to her lies?
Message-ID: <5qcpb1t3fg49vpv5q...@4ax.com>
References: <42bc922e...@news20.forteinc.com><<Steve Talbot Post
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5ed7d1622b3bfa20?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: TALBOT_1 and TALBOT_1b)
<<The above post by Steve Talbot shows the origin of the Miss Cheeseburger
post example as coming from Ken McVay (which could be a forgery but then
again it may not be seeing how the two of them like media attention.>>
Many more lies are documented and are on file.
Tavish
Sara Salzman
Wally Cleaver <Wally_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, <szkbqy2...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
> >
> >>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
> >>facts with facts of your own?
> >>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
> >
> >Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited Bradbury's
> >town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin County
> >Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District Attorney.
>
> They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
> complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew
> her
> hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a negative
> one.
>
Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
not three.
Allan Matthews
cata...@concentric.net says...
> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
Stealin' my lines...
allan
--
=========================================
"I am a 'Nazi'"
- "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
=========================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
The Chief Instigator
>In article <tgbbt1dojktc4o8vv...@4ax.com>,
> Wally Cleaver <Wally_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>> On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, <szkbqy2...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>> >>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>> >>facts with facts of your own?
>> >>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>> >Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited
>> >Bradbury's town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin
>> >County Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District
>> >Attorney.
>> They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
>> complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew
>> her hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a
>> negative one.
>Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
>not three.
There was much rejoicing in Bellville ISD when Bradbury dropped out in sixth
grade - they could once again be respectable...
Yosar...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
>
>>In article <tgbbt1dojktc4o8vv...@4ax.com>,
>> Wally Cleaver <Wally_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>
>>> On 23 Jan 2006 21:15:05 -0600, <szkbqy2...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>> Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
>
>>> >>I see you take this on a personal level. Why not try to refute his
>>> >>facts with facts of your own?
>>> >>Your attitude seems that of a loser.
>
>>> >Fact: In July 2003, Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I visited
>>> >Bradbury's town of Bellville and talked to not only deputies of the Austin
>>> >County Sheriff's Department but also to the Austin County District
>>> >Attorney.
>
>>> They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
>>> complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew
>>> her hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a
>>> negative one.
>
>>Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>
>>And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
>>not three.
>
>There was much rejoicing in Bellville ISD when Bradbury dropped out in sixth
>grade - they could once again be respectable...
But how many people did that put of work in the, "Special Ed"
department of the Bellville ISD?
Beaver Cleaver
Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
>cata...@concentric.net says...
>> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
Hurling insults won't make the truth go away!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
>Stealin' my lines...
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
>allan
>--
>=========================================
>"I am a 'Nazi'"
> - "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
>=========================================
> http://www.allan.matthews.name
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/de1eafb6dbc0ad7
(Archived locally as: NaziNOT)
From: doc_t...@nonspam.bigfoot.com (Gunther Schiller)
Subject: Re: Is Dr Laura a head case herself?
Date: 1998/03/10
Message-ID: <3504c2b5....@news.phoenix.net>
(Partial quote):
I have creeps like you call me a Nazi all the time but if I am a Nazi
then she is one Jew I would let sit on my face! Get the drift?
Here is proof that I have spoken kindly of her:
http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=221706414
Subject: I Listen to Dr. Laura Everyday!
From: Doc Tavish <tav...@phoenix.net>
Date: 1997/02/26
Sara I listen to Dr. Laura everyday, even on weekends when they have
reruns! I know that Dr. Laura is a Jew and I like to listen to her!
Can you explain this to me? I am as serious as I can be. Word of
honor! I haven't ever asked you mean or trick questions even though
you may have thought so! I know that you think I am a nazi pig but can
you explain my liking to listen to Dr. Laura.
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Your sig line:
=========================================
"I am a 'Nazi'"
- "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
=========================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
Is grossly quoting me out of context! Is this all you have? Then again what can
one expect from SHITE who can only resort to smear and can't deal in fact!? Why
don't you show the post, its Message ID, its Subject Title etc.? Answer:
YOUR SMEAR WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE SO YOU ISOLATE FOUR WORDS FROM A COMPLETE
SENTENCE AND RUN WITH IT LIKE THE EVIL LITTLE SHITE YOU ARE!!
Tavish
~~All about Atheistic Anti-Christ Marxist Baby-Killer Allan Matthews~~
"(L)ets compare - My IQ's around 140, I've got a degree in physics
from MIT and I'm finishing up my Ph.D. at Harvard, from which I
already have a Master's degree. And you, oh mentally stunted one?
....I can't understand why people like you are so willfully stupid
and ignorant." -- Allan Matthews Showing "Intelligence" and Style!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d1c0ac6b776c27a3
From: allan_m...@bigfoot.com (Allan Matthews)
Subject: Re: "Sieg Heil" Scottie makes another allegation he can't back up
Message-ID: <MPG.1015bb88a...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMbraggadocio)
---
>Please note also the Talmud contains a book called the Sanhedrin and it
>is filled with blasphemous statements against Jesus
"They're only blasphemous if you're Christian, Scottie. These guys were Jews.
To them Jesus was the blasphemer." Marxist Anti-Christ Allan Matthews
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/bf4d82b5ec68fb02
Subject: Re: From History of the Jews- Talmudism (As Written by Jews)
Message-ID: <MPG.f7c9ff66...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMmouth1)
---
"God? What would we want with a God?" Atheistic Allan Matthews
Subject: Yet more slander from "tavish" (was:Re: If You Had a GOD...)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/dbf0057701257ac3
Message-ID: <5h9cvn$pc0$1...@lator.cybercom.net>
(Archived locally as: AMmouth2)
---
>WE ARE ALL CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD,
"Oh, no, not this silly sky god stuff again..."
Atheistic Marxist Apologist Allan Matthews
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/6aca198a57041671
Subject: Re: Niggers morally responsible for Arkansas! Torch them NOW!!!
Message-ID: <MPG.f8867712...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMmouth3)
---
"Anti-abortion propaganda... It is a legal fact in this country that you
cannot compel me to give you use of one of my organs, say a kindey, for
example, even if it's the only way for you to stay alive. Why, then,
should an unborn fetus have a special right to the use of a woman's
uterus? Pro-Death Allan "Baby Killer" Matthews
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/msg/297b52acba2190b0
Subject: Re: Similarity between communists and nazis
Message-ID: <MPG.ec087de4...@news.shore.net>
(Archived locally as: AMmouth4)
---
Subject: Did Allan Matthews Acquire his Marxist Leanings at "Institutions of
Higher Learning"? aka Re: More delusional lies from "Sieg Heil" Scottie
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/97ef87a16264cdc3
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:58:54 -0500
Message-ID: <is6alu4qnvnsg98r0...@4ax.com>
---
Allan Matthews' "GOOD GUYS" (ACLU, DSA, ADL/B'nai Brith and Nizkor) are rooted
in communism and/or are communist front organizations:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/4bd955b230f03609
Subject: Comrade Allan Matthews' GOOD GUYS Are Socialists/Communists! aka
Communists Give FULL Support to Democrat Party in USA!! S_0723
Message-ID: <sen3g0d7nqfr2k8dl...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 Jul 2004 04:06:04 GMT
---
All of the above in a nutshell speaks volumes about the type of person Marxist
Atheist Anti-Christ Allan Matthews is! No wonder why he is liked by Leftists and
Pharisaic Anti-Christ Jews.
Beaver Cleaver
<catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed one
>> complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew
>> her hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a negative
>> one.
>>
>
>Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>
>And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
>not three.
Your son didn't say anything. It was YOU and the two Humphreys who ran your evil
mouths.
Why are you trying to divert from:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
>Sara
Now do what you do best and go fist yourself and YES- you did make those S&M
Torture posts as well as those fisting posts. Care to deny it Miss Piggy?
Tavish
~~Sara Salzman Caught Lying About her Fisting and S&M Postings~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5bc0e5365a935cd0
Subject: Sara "The Fist" Salzman Now Claims Those Fisting Posts are Her Sex
Life!!! (Classic Repost Originally Posted December 22, 2003)
Message-ID: <inrfe11jdcqdh14p9...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jul 2005 21:16:04 GMT
Compare a snippet from the above to the second snippet to see how Sara has
been caught lying about her fisting and s&m postings!
First Snippet:
> Beaver Cleaver <beaver_cleaver@mayfield01net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:04:45 -0700,
>> <catamont-9743CA...@news-60.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> >[ALTERED AND FORGED HEADERS DELETED]
>>
>> ---Sara Salzman's irony of pointing out features on posts she claims don't
>> exist. If they don't exist and never existed then why does she know so much
>> about them!?
Second Snippet:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1eff49e9514d013a
(Archived locally as: SaraNdenial)
Message-ID: <catamont-A5678F...@news-60.giganews.com>
> >[FORGED, ALTERED POSTS DELETED]
>
> FORGED, ALTERED!? I did no such thing you lying pig! Those are YOUR posts so
> I did not forge them! THAT IS FACT!
No it isn't. One of your cronies sent them to you and said there were in
the google archives. But they aren't, are they?
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Snippet~~
In December 2003 you were claiming concerning your S&M posts: "One of your
cronies sent them to you and said there were in the google archives" (which they
were because I verified them, gave the links, and had the wisdom to archive
them) "But they aren't, are they?" because you NUKED them.
Here you are singing different tunes earlier in time concerning "My Master Holds
The Ropes Just So (poem)":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/20ff221c81044eec
(Archived locally as: SaraProvesSandMexists_1)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Don Lies Yet Again
Date: 14 Dec 2001 00:42:32 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-EF986E...@news.concentric.net>
> > In <8S1S7.6801$Xs4.738...@feed.centurytel.net> in alt.revisionism, on
> > Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:34:50 -0600, "GassenBurnham"
> > <cte60...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I believe McVay is connected to her ring of Masters. This whole
> > > matter goes much deeper than Sara and Cougar, because several
> > > people here are too quick in defending Sara. Plus the victim status
> > > Sara desires so much is all part of the S&M theme. I fell her
> > > children are in serious emotional and physical danger from possible
> > > viewing and partaking in these sexual perversions.
[...]
You're a liar, Don, and you always have been.
Nothing you say changes that. You have a vile history of lying and
harassing, and the worst you think you can do to me is resurrect
6-year-old fantasy posts and pretend outrage.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
You claimed in 2003 regarding the posts: "One of your cronies sent them to you
and said there were in the google archives." YET earlier in time you claimed:
"the worst you think you can do to me is resurrect 6-year-old fantasy posts" to
which I say if those posts didn't exist then how could they have been
resurrected? You also didn't deny making "My Master Holds The Ropes Just So
(poem)" poem in this archive and you also claimed as your dodge that it was
fantasy:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c8dcee3152cf9fec?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: BizarreSara)
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,
Subject: Re: The Bizarre behavior of Sara Salzman
Date: 30 Apr 2002 15:19:14 GMT
Message-ID: <catamont-52E981...@news.concentric.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.155.170.163
User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.0 (PPC)
In article <7b1tcu41mqb6vsncg...@4ax.com>, Voice of
Reason <voiceo...@blakely.DELETEharrogate.net> wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2002 03:01:36 GMT, Sara "The Fist" Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> <deletia from manic rantings>
>
> One defender of child abuse lying another child abuser.
>
> Fact:
Lie
> Sara Salzman post sexual torture and bondage stories for little kids
> to read. An example of her writings: This is when she was Sara
> Schwartz before dumping that husband for the superman Aryan she brags
> out. What a piece of garbage.
>
> From: ssch...@infinet.com
> Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage,
> Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Fantasy fiction.
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
You certainly didn't deny making the post back then did you Sara!?
Here is proof where YOUR posts were "resurrected" from as you put it and my
getting the links to them and posting the links:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/4bbd6e665c934d2d
(Archived locally as: GOOGLEexpands)
From: Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Google expands it's base and reveals Sara even more!!
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500
Organization: Mike Kalvatis
Message-ID: <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:08:52 +0000 (UTC)
<body of post starts with>
From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com
My Master holds the rope just so.
[...]
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Proof I got all the GOOGLE links to those posts at the time:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f1bb2cae82f33ad
(Archived locally as: GOOGLElinksSupplied)
From: T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Google expands it's base and reveals Sara even more!!
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:53:44 -0600
Message-ID: <ji1d1uchvhovhq0vc...@4ax.com>
References: <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
<aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
X-Server-Date: 11 Dec 2001 22:53:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:05:00 -0600, <aa0d1ucdf9q9mlc9s...@4ax.com>
T-A-V <RemoveAllHYPH...@ix.ne-tc-om.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:08:36 -0500, <qctc1uo4s3qdov4m7...@4ax.com>
>Mike Kalvatis <mkal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com
>
>For a fact that Message ID yields:
>http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%20&as_umsgid=sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com&num=20&hl=en
>From: ssch...@infinet.com
>Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
>Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
>Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
Even Ken McVay verified "My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)" is YOURS!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/eed8a94c0cac521e
Subject: Ken McVay Agrees With Us That "My Master Holds The Ropes Just So" is
"Sara's story"... Message-ID: <qjtn01dbb9pgck7g7...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 Feb 2005 00:18:26 GMT
Sara Salzman
Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:47:54 -0700,
> <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >> They also took note that you all made not one criminal charge NOR filed
> >> one
> >> complaint YET Sara Salzman drove all the way from Aurora, Colorado to spew
> >> her hysteria. You three did make an impression for sure but it was a
> >> negative
> >> one.
> >>
> >
> >Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
> >
> >And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
> >not three.
>
> Your son didn't say anything.
And how would YOU know, Chickenshit?
As a matter of fact, my son spoke quite eloquently to the DA.
Contrary to your idiotic attempts to act like you know what happened,
the truth is quite different.
> It was YOU and the two Humphreys who ran your
> evil
> mouths.
The only person with an evil mouth is YOU, Mr. Bradbury. Mrs. Humphrey,
in fact, said very little.
You're a liar and an idiot, Mr. Bradbury.
And the statute of limitations is SIX YEARS. So much for your idiotic
attempts at ass-covering.
Sara Salzman
Allan Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
> cata...@concentric.net says...
> > Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>
> Stealin' my lines...
>
> allan
Couldn't help it... When 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 in Bradbury's world.....
:)
Sara Salzman
Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:41:06 -0500, <wt-dneAVEq3...@giganews.com>
> Allan
> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
> >cata...@concentric.net says...
> >> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>
> Hurling insults won't make the truth go away!
>
It sure won't. Sara, her son, Pat Humphrey and his wife equals FOUR
people, no matter how many insults you hurl.
And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Sara Salzman wrote
in message
<catamont-10BBC5...@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <pr9dt1p7e33mahsbh...@4ax.com>,
> Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:41:06 -0500, <wt-dneAVEq3...@giganews.com>
>> Allan
>> Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
>> >cata...@concentric.net says...
>> >> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>> Hurling insults won't make the truth go away!
>It sure won't. Sara, her son, Pat Humphrey and his wife equals FOUR
>people, no matter how many insults you hurl.
>
>And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
>filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
And doesn't apply to the gun control laws, in any case, not if zie is
alleging that Yale *currently* is in violation...
Steve Wolk
fla...@verizon.net
On 24-Jan-2006, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> In article <pr9dt1p7e33mahsbh...@4ax.com>,
> Gilbert Bates <Gilber...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:41:06 -0500,
> > <wt-dneAVEq3...@giganews.com>
> > Allan
> > Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
> > >cata...@concentric.net says...
> > >> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
> >
> > Hurling insults won't make the truth go away!
> >
My hypocrisy meter not only exploded, it took out the factory that makes
replacements.
>
>
> It sure won't. Sara, her son, Pat Humphrey and his wife equals FOUR
> people, no matter how many insults you hurl.
>
> And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
> filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
>
The tip of the iceberg of Master Bates' lies....
Susan
The Chief Instigator
>>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
>>>> >#6 <TN2@#6.com> writes:
Probably none, as BISD isn't that big today, and was a bit less than that back
when Scotty made his escape at the start of the '60s...they'd have hired them
to come in from Brenham or ("Bob" forbid) College Station. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Peoria 3, Houston 0 (January 24)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, January 26 at Iowa, 7:05
The Chief Instigator
>In article <pr9dt1p7e33mahsbh...@4ax.com>,
> Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:41:06 -0500, <wt-dneAVEq3...@giganews.com>
>> Allan Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
>> >cata...@concentric.net says...
>> >> Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
>> Hurling insults won't make the truth go away!
>It sure won't. Sara, her son, Pat Humphrey and his wife equals FOUR
>people, no matter how many insults you hurl.
As I've pointed out a time or two, Bradbury's village is definitely NOT being
deprived.
>And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
>filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
You want coherent math from him? ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
Beaver Cleaver
<catamont-C1FABF...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> >And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR people,
>> >not three.
>>
>> Your son didn't say anything.
>
>And how would YOU know, Chickenshit?
>
>As a matter of fact, my son spoke quite eloquently to the DA.
That's not what I heard!
Tavish
Beaver Cleaver
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
Hurl your fact less insults and I will keep posting documented truths!
Such as:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
AND
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund #2~~
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26?fwc=1
(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.13...@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"...The San Antonio Area Foundation
has never paid me... Get used to it.
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's bold faced lie: "Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has
ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor
Fund"...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me..." BUT I have shown
otherwise below!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News - August 3, 1996 - Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada... <end>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"...
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
The San Antonio Area Foundation itself in its annual reports for years 2000,
2002, 2003, and 2004 show the Nizkor Fund as being a recipient of funds which
may be verified with these links:
[PDF] Financials 2000 3-01 http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
... 3 Fund Types The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the
quality of ... Katz Memorial Trust and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund, Nizkor Fund
[PDF] 2002 Annual Report http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/AnnRpt2002.pdf
[PDF] 2003 Annual Report file Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/AnnRpt2003.pdf
-------------------------------------------------------
http://sitelevel.whatuseek.com/query.go?crid=56a9e3b448c11dd2&query=Nizkor&slice_title=&page=1&fo=1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorFund_2004)
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/annualReport_current.pdf - 2004-09-10
Facts make a better impression on lurkers than your insults.
Tavish
The Chief Instigator
That should have taught you not to believe everything the voices in your head
tell you.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
#6
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> Your son didn't say anything.
>And how would YOU know, Chickenshit?
>
>As a matter of fact, my son spoke quite eloquently to the DA.
Then he doesn't take after his mother as proven below.
>Contrary to your idiotic attempts to act like you know what happened,
>the truth is quite different.
>You're a liar and an idiot, Mr. Bradbury.
>
>And the statute of limitations is SIX YEARS. So much for your idiotic
>attempts at ass-covering.
>
>Sara
Yes, quite eloquent I must say.
Sara Salzman
Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
You heard nothing. You never spoke to your DA. You made up a bunch of
lies about my son because you're too impotent to deal with adults.
That's why you ran away instead of confronting us -- in the DA's office
-- about all the things you whine about.
You claim Patrick Humphrey is a stalker, yet when he was sitting in the
Sheriff's office, speaking with a deputy, you were hiding somewhere
else.
You told me if I came to Belleville to "plan to stay a long time"
because you were going to have me arrested. But you were hiding like the
impotent coward that you are.
The Chief Instigator
>In article <spvet15gt9pbrluup...@4ax.com>,
> Beaver Cleaver <Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:00:54 -0700,
>> <catamont-C1FABF...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>> >> >And remember: "Sara Salzman, her son, my wife and I" equals FOUR
>> >> >people, not three.
>> >> Your son didn't say anything.
>> >And how would YOU know, Chickenshit?
>> >As a matter of fact, my son spoke quite eloquently to the DA.
>> That's not what I heard!
>>
>> Tavish
>You heard nothing. You never spoke to your DA. You made up a bunch of
>lies about my son because you're too impotent to deal with adults.
>That's why you ran away instead of confronting us -- in the DA's office
>-- about all the things you whine about.
Hundreds of pounds of fat, and no backbone at all...that's Bradbury.
>You claim Patrick Humphrey is a stalker, yet when he was sitting in the
>Sheriff's office, speaking with a deputy, you were hiding somewhere
>else.
...and Brave Sir Bradbury ran away, as usual.
>You told me if I came to Belleville to "plan to stay a long time"
>because you were going to have me arrested. But you were hiding like the
>impotent coward that you are.
>
>Sara
It must be rough on him, having to stand guard all the time, because Dale and
I might possibly come through his neighborhood some day...
Yosar...@hotmail.com
<Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hurl your fact less insults and I will keep posting documented truths!
>
>Facts make a better impression on lurkers than your insults.
>
> Tavish
Gosh, you mean like the fact that Mr. McVay has told you time and
again that he didn't get a $50,000 donation, didn't use the donation.
Like that fact?
Joe Bruno
Doc Tavish wrote:
> Classic Repost- Nothing has changed since 2002. McVay still hurls insults and
> won't deal with documented facts.
You hurl insults and you add lies to them.
Joe Bruno
Wally Cleaver wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:08:36 -0800, <FSgBf.11010$ZA5.2817@fed1read05> Mimi Cohen
> <mimiNO...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >The Chief Instigator wrote:
> >> Doc_T...@Tavish-Central01.net (R. Scott Bradbury) writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>won't deal with documented facts.
> >>
> >>
> >> whining of a Nazi failure in Bellville.
> >
> >Amen! :) (hi Pat)
>
> Again you Jews prove my point about Jews and their minions only being able to
> hurl insults rather than dealing with facts
All she said was "Amen".
YET you all wonder why you all are
> being despised by more people world wide.
Really?Both Senators from California are Jews.
Beaver Cleaver
McVay lied and here is 100% proof which a normal person (which you aren't) won't
deny:
MCVAY'S TWO MAIN LIES:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
AND
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26?fwc=1
(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL)
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmc...@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.13...@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"...The San Antonio Area Foundation
has never paid me... Get used to it.
<end/quote>
MCVAY'S TWO MAIN LIES EXPOSED FOR WHAT THEY ARE -- LIES!!!
As for Ken McVay's two bold faced lies regarding the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund": "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate
is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever
with the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." AND "Neither The Nizkor
Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund"...The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid
me... Get used to it." BUT I have "demonstrated" the association between the
Nizkor Project and the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund and McVay
receiving money from it and all with Ken McVay's very own words below!
From liar McVay's very own Nizkor web site yet!!!
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News - August 3, 1996 - Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada... <end>
Now I ask who gave the $50,000.00 AND who received it and remember the above is
from McVay's very own web site!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
The above looks to me like McVay is receiving support via the "SAN ANTONIO AREA
FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" or else why would McVay be giving thanks for support?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
The above looks to me like McVay is receiving support via the "SAN ANTONIO AREA
FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" or else why would McVay be listing it as a source of
financing?
From the San Antonio Area Foundation itself:
The San Antonio Area Foundation itself in its annual reports for years 2000,
2002, 2003, and 2004 show the Nizkor Fund as being a recipient of funds which
may be verified with these links:
[PDF] Financials 2000 3-01 http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
... 3 Fund Types The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to improving the
quality of ... Katz Memorial Trust and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund, Nizkor Fund
[PDF] 2002 Annual Report http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/AnnRpt2002.pdf
[PDF] 2003 Annual Report file Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/AnnRpt2003.pdf
-------------------------------------------------------
http://sitelevel.whatuseek.com/query.go?crid=56a9e3b448c11dd2&query=Nizkor&slice_title=&page=1&fo=1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorFund_2004)
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/annualReport_current.pdf - 2004-09-10
Each and every one of those S.A.A.F. PDF financial statements has been archived
locally as well.
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
All of the above is from this archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Care to remain in denial you Spawn of Belial? McVay is a liar and a tax cheat.
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f30ec6fad50e3ab?fwc=1
Subject: Ken McVay Would Rather Hurl Insults Than to Admit His MASTERS are
Anti-Free-Speech Totalitarians aka Re: BlubberBlather rejects democratic process
Message-ID: <43d51606...@news5.uncensored-news.com>
References: <3da57...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/ec333a37ddacd1da?fwc=1
<Lzhp9.7942$zx5.11...@news.nnrp.ca>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/16aad9fa847bc413?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayDemocraticNOT)
<3da62...@news2.uncensored-news.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/3225a3e379849edc?fwc=1
Date: 23 Jan 2006 18:07:14 GMT
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Beaver Cleaver
<catamont-10BBC5...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
>filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
But I don't live in PA you stupid swine so how was I to know and besides the
same DA is in office and if didn't do anything then why would he do anything now
you obese swine?
>Sara
Tavish
~~Sara Salzman's "VISIT" To my Humble Town Was Uninvited~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/30b1377f29c14a1?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Now Threatening to Pay me a "Visit" aka Re: CALLING ALL
DOGPATCH RESIDENTS!! (Her Long Running Lie Now Exposed)
Message-ID: <tqoft1dievj4bejms...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Jan 2006 21:17:08 GMT
AND
The Chief Instigator
>On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:03:47 -0700,
><catamont-10BBC5...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
>>filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
>But I don't live in PA you stupid swine so how was I to know and besides the
>same DA is in office and if didn't do anything then why would he do anything now
>you obese swine?
So? You're the owned bitch who claimed you'd contacted him and then whined
like the 55-year-old baby you are when Sara showed your latest blatant lie.
(Better get a big supply from Snowflake - we're going to be headed your way in
the morning.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 2, Peoria 1 (January 27)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, January 28 vs. Chicago, 7:35
Joe Bruno
If you can prove you said it first, get a lawyer and copyright it.
Ben Cramer
"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
news:1138450746.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Typical yid response. Gimme, gimme, gimme.
>
Joe Bruno
All I did was give Matthews some advice. I didn't ask anyone for
anything, you idiot.
>
>
>
> >
Ben Cramer
The sheenie lawyer would be looking for compensation for the new client, for
breaches of copyright, wouldn't he. Try to think at least one step ahead,
fucktard.
Did you ever get in the shit for breaching copyright when you posted nearly
all of the "Rise and Fall". Simon and Schuster were interested in your
posts.
Joe Bruno
Ben Cramer wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> news:1138451188....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Ben Cramer wrote:
> >> "Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1138450746.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Allan Matthews wrote:
> >> >> In article <catamont-CB3E7F...@news.giganews.com>,
> >> >> cata...@concentric.net says...
> >> >> > Hey, kids! Don't be like Scotty -- stay in school!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Stealin' my lines...
> >> >>
> >> >> allan
> >> >> --
> >> >> =========================================
> >> >> "I am a 'Nazi'"
> >> >> - "Sieg Heil" Scottie Bradbury
> >> >> =========================================
> >> >> http://www.allan.matthews.name
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you can prove you said it first, get a lawyer and copyright it.
> >>
> >> Typical yid response. Gimme, gimme, gimme.
> >
> >
> > All I did was give Matthews some advice. I didn't ask anyone for
> > anything, you idiot.
>
> The sheenie lawyer
I'm not a lawyer, idiot.
Ben Cramer
Do please try to remember what you posted, retard. You stated a lawyer
should be contacted blah blah blah.
Do you now have Alzheimers' to add to your other mental ailments? Poor old
bugger.
>
Joe Bruno
I didn't say it should be a Jewish lawyer, you stupid asshole. Matthews
isn't Jewish, either, you stupid fuckhead.
>
Ben Cramer
Are there any other kind than sheenie lawyers?
Mathews is so stupid, even the yids don't want him. That makes sense.
>>
>
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <3iqlt19k28h53vfmc...@4ax.com>:
>On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:03:47 -0700,
><catamont-10BBC5...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>>And the statute of limitations in PA is SIX years. Since you claim you
>>filed in 2001 or 2002 ....
>
>But I don't live in PA you stupid swine so how was I to know and besides the
>same DA is in office and if didn't do anything then why would he do anything now
>you obese swine?
The point is you lied about this, lard ass.
Just like yo lied when you pretended you had $10k to offer for proof
of your morbid obesity.
Now, can we get back to your claims that publishing someone's personal
details is okay as long as you post threats first?
philip...@comcast.net
"Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:drfnpd$2j2o$1...@otis.netspace.net.au...
Typical Jew hater response. Hate, hate, hate.
--
Philip Mathews
Robert Broughton
>
> McVay lied and here is 100% proof which a normal person (which you aren't)
*plonk*
(I've already killfiled Eddie and Wally)
--
Bob Broughton
http://broughton.ca/
Vancouver, BC, Canada
"I am talking about impeachment... If (George W. Bush) commits oral sex in
the Oval Office, and I don't care with whom, that will be the straw that
broke the camel's back. Out he goes." - Kurt Vonnegut, Oct. 7, 2005
Wally Cleaver
>On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:01:27 -0600, Beaver Cleaver
><Beaver_...@001-mayfield.net> wrote:
Special replay within the Instant Replay (The fact less insults):
<start/quote>
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:33:36 GMT, <c87dt1dm0pvgg0uh0...@4ax.com>
Yosar...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On 24 Jan 2006 14:09:45 -0600, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com>
>wrote:
>>There was much rejoicing in Bellville ISD when Bradbury dropped out in sixth
>>grade - they could once again be respectable...
>
>But how many people did that put of work in the, "Special Ed"
>department of the Bellville ISD?
<end/quote>
The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me... Get used to it.
<end/quote>
MCVAY'S TWO MAIN LIES EXPOSED FOR WHAT THEY ARE
As for Ken McVay's two bold faced lies regarding the "San Antonio Area
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1