Re: Don't be an Ayoob; Sign&share this petition to stop the "hunger is starvation" propaganda on 09/29/12

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Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD :-)

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Sorry for the grammatical goofs and typos. I pounded that out really
fast and didn't bother to go back and edit it. Chung's just not worth
more than a scant few minutes of time.

BGK

Fred Hall

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 02:13:28 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
:-)" <black...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 29, 10:33 pm, Colonel Jake <colonelj...@coloneljake.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2012 6:16 PM, Fred Hall wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:53:23 -0500, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > [Top posting for AUK's benefit]
>>
>> >http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger
>>
>> Oh Yeah'ah!,
>> "I remember that! Dr. Chung's 32-ouncer program that
>> starved to death one of his patients, I remember hearing that
>> Hitler fed those in his Concentration Camps better than Chung
>> feeds his followers!!! (it must SuCK-tO-eAT-CHiNESE-CHeESE)..."
>>
>> *notice how Chung's voice gets 'shaky' during teh interviews*
>
>What I'm picking up on is when the interviewer is discussing with
>Chung where he's from and where he went to school, he's at ease. When
>she starts discussing his practice, he looks and sounds very nervous.
>Kind of like the Jackie Gleason 'humina, humina' routine. "Er, Uh,
>well, you see... I can explain that, uh......".
>
>The interviewers using a common tactic. The same type that's used when
>a polygraph test is being administered. Ask the interviewee a few
>established details you know will be answered in a truthful and
>forthright manner. Then ask the hard hitting questions. Then compare
>the way behaves when answering the basic topics such as where he grew
>up and went to school, to when he's asked about his practice. The body
>language and vocal inflections should be consistent if he is being
>truthful, sure of himself and has nothing to hide.
>
>This of course as anyone can see this does not appear to be the case.
>There appears to be a very noticeable change in body language and vice
>inflection between questions Chung feels comfortable with and ones he
>seems uncomfortable with. If he's on the up and up and sure of
>himself, then none of those questions should have made him squirm.
>
>One of the first things I noticed was his accent. It's not Asian and
>it's not Alabamian and it's not a blend of the two. It's as if he's
>impersonating someone. This is a common trait in someone who's
>basically acting during an interview. Who's taking on a false
>persona.
>
>When this starts out he seems very nervous and unsure of himself while
>he's re-conveying his 2lb philosophy (yes, I said philosophy). The
>rapid fire speaking combined with stammering, the arms and hands
>flailing about, his "shifty eyes" looking all over the place and at
>people off camera. The proverbial going several different directions
>at once.
>
>Now when the interviewer says "okay we're going to start now... you
>were raised in Cobb County... went to Henderson high school..." His
>demeanor noticeable changes. His voice inflections are more
>consistent, his body language is far less animated, his eyes are more
>steady.
>
>When she refers to him as a "local boy" he seems to get defensive,
>indicating insecurity.
>
>When she asks him if he's very smart, it appears he thinks so, but is
>seeking a way to respond in a way that doesn't sound conceited, which
>he handled very well... but at the same time didn't appear forthright.
>
>When asked about going to Georgia Tech on a Presidential Scholarship,
>he answers in a very steady, calm and forthright manner wile
>maintaining eye contact. This continues in this as he's asked similar
>questions regarding academic highlights and internship etc.
>
>When she asks him if he worked at Emory, that's when he appears to
>become fidgety and stammers again.
>
>When she asks him if he's currently in private practice, he closes his
>eyes when he says "yes". This in indicative of someone telling a
>"white lie" saying "yes" when the more realistic answer is "no".
>
>When she tells him she went by his office, it's empty and the phone
>number is disconcerted, he launches into what appears to be a
>rehearsed answer. He appears as though startled by her statement, but
>at the same time had prepared an answer if she asked him about it, but
>was hoping she wouldn't. He's maintaining eye contact this time but
>the way he's twisting his mouth around, his hand gestures and what
>appears to be labored breathing once again appear inductive of someone
>who doesn't seem forthright.
>
>He says there's not a need for there to be a public office and that he
>operates a clandestine practice in a secret office (even though it's
>been established on Usenet the the supposed secret location appears
>his personal residence). A question to be asked here is, how many
>practicing cardiologists operate in a clandestine manner from a secret
>location? How probable is that? He says that he sees his patients
>based on a referral from their primary physician. It would be
>interesting to see if one could find a single primary care physician
>within Cobb County who says he's referred a patient to Chung. Of
>course Chung can claim his referrals come from all over the state,
>country and world making it imposable to pin down. But you know, when
>someone keeps you from being able to pin them down regarding something
>like this, they are being dubiously evasive.
>
>More animated gestures, more fidgeting, more stammering, more eye
>closing (not blinking, eye closing).
>
>When she asks him about the food scale, there appears to be an obvious
>release of tension from Chung. As if he's just been taken off the hot
>seat, an is in comfortable territory again.
>
>But when she asks him if there are people at Emory who agree with him,
>he appears to become nervous and uncomfortable again as described
>above.
>
>When he says "empirically right" he seems very sure of himself. But
>based on what he's presented on Usenet over the years, he's never
>supplied any evidence that even appears empirical to anyone but
>himself and perhaps a couple of his pals.
>
>Although the second time he says empirically, he does so with his eyes
>closed.
>
>When asked if he eats 32oz every day he answers "yes" with his eyes
>closed.
>
>At one point he appears to be holding a conversation with someone else
>in the room other than the interviewer he's talking to.
>
>Side note: People who are selling food are selling it by the ounce and
>by calories, hence calorie content being listed as well as certain
>products being described as "light" and "low calorie" etc. When you
>have two bottles of Kraft Ranch salad dressing and one says "light",
>it obviously means less calories, not that it weighs less.
>
>And actually the epidemic of obesity has focused more on what people
>are eating, namely fast food and junk food, rather than how many
>pounds of food they are eating. It's not that people are eating more
>food than they did a hundred years ago, it's that they are eating fast
>food and junk food these days. And sure, if you eat less junk you'll
>lose weight, but you're still consuming junk. Whereas if you eat the
>same 4 lb volume of food that's nutritious and by virtue lower in
>calories, as opposed to processed junk, you'll still lose weight and
>be considerably healthier. Based on the pictures of food Chung
>consumes, he's concluded that cutting your junk food intake in half is
>supposedly the answer, as opposed to switching to eating nutritious
>natural foods.
>
>You see, a person like me, who mainly only eats whole grains, fruits,
>vegetables, legumes, nuts and lean meats, doesn't need to cut his food
>intake down to 32 oz. They are all single ingredient foods i.e. the
>ingredients of broccoli is, broccoli. Period. From what I've seen of
>the pictures Chung has provided of his meals, the majority of it
>appears to be proces, sed starchy foods and junk foods such as mini
>cookies and mini candy bars. 'Continue eating junk, just cut your junk
>volume in half, yeah that's the ticket'. Riiiight :-)
>
>When he says "fellow brethren in Christ" his eyes are closed and his
>head is tilted as if looking away, which is a gesture of denial.
>
>The reason why of course Christians are against Chung's incorporation
>of Jesus and Biblical Scripture into his "2PD" ( Two Pound *Diet*)
>approach, is that he completely misuses and exploits Jesus and the
>Bible. I'm glad to hear him freely admit that actual Christians are
>highly opposed to his pseudo-theological gobbledygook. It's so
>isogetical, singular and self-serving it doesn't even qualify as
>theological heresy, but rather crackpot poppycock.
>
>He doesn't go to church every Sunday, because he wouldn't and doesn't
>fit in as demonstrated by at least one ordinary mainstream Baptist
>church banning him and will call the police if he returns. In my 32
>years of regular weekly church attendance, and being a part of the
>inner circle, I've seen a lot of people who were causing problems
>asked to go elsewhere, but I can only think of a couple of times that
>we were ready to call the police if any of use saw that ever showed up
>again. And these were where established 5150's (http://
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5150_%28Involuntary_psychiatric_hold%29).
>So, based on that, that Baptist church is saying, if Chung shows up,
>call the men with the butterfly nets and straight jacket.
>
>Well, that's it for now stopping at 08:00. I do have better things to
>do after all. But it's been entertaining. Sort of.
>
>What I have written in this article is based upon my personal analysis
>as opposed to a professional diagnosis.
>
>Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD - Behavioral Science.

Outstanding post, Doc.
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no it isn't

Colonel Jake

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Fred Hall
> Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
>> Colonel Jake
>>> Fred Hall
>>>> Fred Hall
It sure was! (Mr. Hall),
"It's alway coOl when teh?
'Forensic Psychologists' come out to play!!!..."

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Colonel "Judge" Jake - WA State, Pierce Co. District Court




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On Oct 1, 8:01 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
>
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
>
> >http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-progra...
>
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
>
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.
>
> > Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> > dinner are not starving if they are hungry. Those who are dying from
> > anything including starvation are not hungry.
>
> So let'shttp://WDJW.net/BeSaneabout this.
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?
>
> ...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
> and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Shut your pie-hole, you fucking killer.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 10/1/2012 5:13 AM, Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD :-) wrote:
> On Sep 29, 10:33 pm, Colonel Jake<colonelj...@coloneljake.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2012 6:16 PM, Fred Hall wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:53:23 -0500, Fred Hall<fkh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
Very nice review, plus I was happy to see from the link sightwalker's
strabismus is corrected with the use of non contacted eyewear. He sure
doesn't look as retarded as when he's going naked.
Jimmy Alpha geD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> starvation" as evident by the following article:
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-panned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
>
> "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> a much easier fix."
>
> Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.
>
> Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> dinner are not starving if they are hungry. Those who are dying from
> anything including starvation are not hungry.

So let's http://WDJW.net/BeSane about this.

Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
>> starvation" as evident by the following article:

Just write a simple letter to your Attorney of State. Complain about
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung. Here is some facts about him.

And be careful. One girl already is dead.


FAQ about the murderous sadistic swine Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung,
==================================================================
guilty for the death of a child
==================================================================

6.8.2012 / 6th. August 2012


Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to die.
He wants their death.
ONE GIRL ALREADY DIED.
======================

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public. We knew it for
years. But the police in Atlanta and in Mabletown is too lame to
prosecute him. And a girl died because of him in Summer 2012.

I added the late incidents at the beginning of this FAQ

Fact is: A girl died.

Fact is: The girl died of starvation.

Fact is: The mother of that girl was
indoctrinated by Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

Fact is: Despite the publicly open and clear facts,
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung makes the most
despicable and insane lies and excuses.

See this posting by the sadistic swine Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung,
dated 5th., July, 2012. I underligned the important sentences.

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily WDJW Health Tip for 07/05/12
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 12:07:10 -0400
Message-ID: <judbv7tqmvnk1kmso...@4ax.com>
References:
<19279c46-6796-4f5c...@b20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>
<4ff59754$0$12895$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>
X-Authenticated-User: ach...@emorycardiology.com

An eternally accursed and condemned sockpuppet wrote:

> A little black girl is dead.

Incorrect.

A 16 year-old teenage black girl is deceased likely because of
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intestinal parasites instead of starvation because the latter is
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associated with lingering protracted coma instead of sudden death.
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>Shame.

There is no shame in death especially for those of us who are born
again (John 3:3 & 5) for we have been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD
and will be raised from the dead (John 3:16) if we should die.

Otoh, there is shame for sockpuppets like you who lurk in the darkness
for you are eternally condemned and are already dead in sin.

May GOD curse you and all who know you, ever so severely to the Nth
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generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
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Prayerfully,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/470799ce370a2ff2?

What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
</quote>


Markea Berry died of starvation. There is lots of media material about
that.
Here are some URLs of news media articles and videos on the death of
Markea Berry:

Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a �Hunger Cult�
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

The doctor behind the �hunger cult� that obsessed a mother who
�starved her 16-year-old daughter to death�
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

Hunger is Starvation.
Starvation leads to Death.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/hungry-doctor-sees-starved-girls-mom

"Keith Ayoob, director of the nutrition clinic at the Rose F. Kennedy
Center in the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, called
Chung's two-pound rule "disturbing"."
http://southcobb.patch.com/articles/mableton-cardiologist-may-have-influenced-mother-to-starve-teen


If you notice that Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung approaches people, do call
the police. There must be an end to that crime.


Main Part of the FAQ about the murderous sadistic swine
===========================================================
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung, guilty for the death of a child
===========================================================
12.7.2011

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung has a deathlist online with more than 260
names of person he wants to be killed.

0. Preword
1. Where to FILE A COMPLAINT about Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine
3. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
4. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
6. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
7. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his
web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
9. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
11. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung preaches hate-crime
and wants people to be killed.
13. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be
killed
14. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten
Commandments
15. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung tramps on dying patients and on dead
patients.
16. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
17. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
18. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
19. How did Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung forge all his medical exams?
20. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up
breastfeeding and foetus nouriture via umbilical cord
21. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung libels and defames Dr. Frank Hildner
21. Satan Adrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study.
New facts about the damages he caused to patients
22. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
23. The case of "Cygnus Consultants", a camouflage of Satan Andrew Ben
Hua Chung
24. The insane claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
25. Satan Sndrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to die
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet
26. Satan Ben Hua Chung is an aggressive stalker and criminal
27. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung thrown out of First Baptist Church of
Woodstock
28. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
29. Do not forget: fight hunger!


0. Preword
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Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole
interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

A)
On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:


B)
On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:


A look at the header reveals:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no
question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...
</quote>



Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.


The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the
history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the sadistic
stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.


1. Where to FILE A COMPLAINT about Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-------------------------------------------------------------

Complaints about Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung can be sent to these police
officers:

Contact Information

Sheriff Neil Warren
Cobb County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Building, Second Floor
185 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30090
Telephone: 770-499-4609
E-mail: neil....@cobbcounty.org


Chief Deputy Sheriff Lynda Coker
Cobb County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Building, Second Floor
185 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30090
Telephone: 770-499-4609
E-mail: lco...@bellsouth.net

Nancy Bodiford
Executive Assistance
Cobb County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Building, Second Floor
185 Roswell Street
Marietta, Georgia 30060
Telephone: (770) 499-4609
Facsimile: (770) 499-4792
E-mail: me...@CobbSheriff.Org

Paula Morris
Assistant
Cobb County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Building, Second Floor
185 Roswell Street
Marietta, Georgia 30060
Telephone: (770) 499-4611
Facsimile: (770) 499-4792
E-mail: Paula....@CobbCounty.Org

Kimberly Norrell
Assistant
Cobb County Sheriff's Office
Public Safety Building, Second Floor
185 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30090

Telephone: 770-499-4617
E-mail: Kimberly...@cobbcounty.org


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2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine
-------------------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a sadistic swine. He makes
claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death. And he
terrorizes people, in the Net and in Real Life.

Do note: Hunger damages the brain tissue!

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He
terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones
like

sci.med.cardiology


His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit
uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety
rules.

He is a danger to public.



Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung terrorizes Netizens. Here is one more piece
of proof:

<quote>
Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD " <disc...@t3wij.net>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Mom passed away yesterday
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 05:09:20 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 110
Message-ID: <iupm5b$2g2$2...@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:09:16 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org;
posting-host="e8O5vgre13n/k7ZFELUoLQ";
logging-data="2562";
mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org";
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Debbie wrote:

> I've been sad since mom's death
> I haven't been able to sleep
> and I haven't eaten anything since yesterday

Smarter to freely choose to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body by holding
to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food thereby stopping the
overeating that causes the VAT that leads to having type-2 diabetes.

Don't be sicken dead by the sin of gluttony like your obese mother was
when she died of type-2 diabetes out of wilful disobediance.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=146776...

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=146776...

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=146776...

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=146776...

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=146776...

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
x--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
</quote>



3. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
From: "Tdub" <gripshift5@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history
and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential
diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the
treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically
impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination,
laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician
and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation
are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_11783501/27080031Complaint%20and%20Waiver%20Form.pdf

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>


4. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
lifeblood. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.

So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. Barring
some egregious post from you, I'm not going to participate in these
little fiestas. I do think that the judgments you've shown in these
posts reflect poorly on you as a person and as a medical professional.
For you to throw around professional terminology like "differential
diagnosis" as a tool of argument is IMO a shabby stunt, particularly
when you know it to be a sham. So enjoy yourself with the other people
you're playing with. The floor is yours to do with as you wish.

I'm withdrawing from this confabulation. I suspect you'll do your
abnormal normal thing and hang your macro at the end. Have at it.

Pastorio
</quote>


5. verity about Chung
---------------------

On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>


6. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:52:44 -0700, GreatSageItchy
<GreatSa...@null.com>
wrote:

<quote>
ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A TOTALLY EGOCENTRIC, TOTALLY ARROGANT, INSANE,
WHACK-JOB. HIS ATTRACTION TO RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY IS ENTIRELY THE
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES. ANDREW CHUNG WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
WHEN CAMELS FLY THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, AND COWS FLY TO THE MOON.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)

BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep,
usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, stalker, satanic demon,
egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".

Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dal

</quote>



7. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his
web-site:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp

<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist

Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/

Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)

As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was
inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by
those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime,
and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.

This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel
it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in
order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these
and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall
silent.

You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received
harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also
be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.

Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what
they are
doing.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

Sign Guestbook View Guestbook

Copyright � 1995-2009 by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America) 404.699.2780
This page of the Atlanta Cardiology Web Portal was Last Updated on
Tuesday,
October 20, 2009.
</quote>



Andrew Ben-Hua Chung does know very well about stalking, and about how
criminal
it is. And, still, Andrew Ben-Hua Chung is one of the meanest and most
disgusting stalkers in the whole Net.

The attorneys of state in Atlanta have homework to do!


8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500, Jimmy Alpha
<jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:

<quote>
From: Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Re: Being mercifully kind (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's
perishing
***************************************************************************
body (anorexia) & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
***************************************************************************

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500
Message-ID: <hil5gd$s2u$1...@news.datemas.de>


Sightwalker pridefully said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg

> Being mercifully kind

Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.

> (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)

Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?

> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...

Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.

Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35

Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.

Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
</quote>


9. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:54:33 -0500, Jimmy Alpha
<jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
(emphasize added by me)

<quote>
sightwalker with a phd said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> It is when we are in accord with a message of reconciliation that we
> become healthier (hungrier) than ever.

Andrew, follow Christ and you will relieve that chronic *hunger*, if in
fact it's true and not just more touting your many capitalistic
endeavors?
It is written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
********************************************
life: he that cometh to me shall *never* hunger..."
***************************************************
Jno 6:35
Jimmy Alpha
</quote>


Also note this:

>Le 2010-01-13 06:44, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD a �crit :
>> This gentile Christian disciple
>
>is happy to let his "lord" kill and torture these people :
>
>http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=starvation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
>Chung is diseased.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg



10. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
---------------------------------------------------------------

Here is the facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua
Chung:


On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:52:25 -0800 (PST), Andrew <white...@gmail.com>
wrote:

<quote>
6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.
</quote>


11. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung preaches hate-crime
and wants people to be killed.
---------------------------------------------------------

Endlessly repeating his insane shit, Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's real
target is
people to be murdered:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:00:12 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
>of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>
>Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>
>Andrew <><



One more example, 18.2.2011:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,
sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily WDJW Health Tip for 02/18/11
Message-ID: <4vnsl69vtcdav5tbu...@4ax.com>
X-Complaints-To: ab...@easynews.com
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:02:48 -0500
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
</quote>



One more example, 19.2.2011:

<quote>
Subject: Re: WDJW status for 02/18/11 ...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
<eeca3280-9687-4b3b...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
</quote>


One more example, 8.4.2011:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,
alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Being blessed right now really is wonderful (Luke 6:21) ...
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<26ee3d54-6528-4609...@r14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2591d6198130cf33?

May GOD annihilate all who like you who would anonymously propagandize
that "hunger is starvation" with fires from Heaven right now, in the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
[...]
</quote>



12. The deathlist of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung:
over 260 people he wants to be killed
------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:50:55 -0800, Great Sage Itchy
<GSi...@itchyandscratchy.com> wrote:

>Chung already has his place in God's heavenly palace picked out. He
>will sit in the throne to the left of God, while "The Risen" "LORD"
>Jesus Christ sits on the right (because of His "victory"?).


And Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung already made a list of "convicts" which
he wants to be killed by god:

[Sample taken on February, 20th., 2011]
http://www.heartmdphd.com/convicts/

<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist

Good afternoon!

The purpose of this page is to list our dear friends
****************************************************
and neighbors who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
*********************************************************

They are at a crossroads in their life. They are in danger of becoming
demons if they unwisely choose to blaspheme HIM. Please pray for these
folks. "It is my heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job
to convict and my job to love." -- Reverend Billy Graham


Philip
Madison (convicted 11/28/06 --> stricken 1/20/07)
Mark T.
"Panama Floyd" (convicted 10/24/06 --> stricken with HIV)
Al Klein
Denis Loubet
Cary Kittrell (convicted 10/27/06 --> stricken from birth)
David H. (aka "Big Dave")
Barry O'Grady
Kumar
"Olrik"
Peter J. Ross
Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06 --> deceased
04/01/07)
Donna Kupp
Kate (aka "TigerLily")
Mike Painter
"Hatchetmama"
"Nemo"
"JessHC"
Jeff Utz
"Oldus Fartus"
"K�i-L�"
"Odd Neighbor"
"Lost Soul"
Mike Gray
DKW
Frank Mayhar
Robibnikoff
"Chadwick Stone�"
"Ghod"
"Free Lunch"
"Yang"
"Provoker"
Tom "Tdub" Williams
"Em"
"Barbara's Cat"
"Raven1"
Kevin "Beav" Maxfield
"Azaliah" (aka Pastor Dave)
Don Kirkman (Convicted 12/22/06 --> Stricken with CAD in 1998)
BDK
Bill M.
Tony
Shawn Hirn
~Tanya
Ken Wood
"lestat"
JLS
"Jaguar"
"Owl"
"Flowerchild8245"
"Warren G. Harding"
Martin Phipps
Patrick Humphrey
"Scott Joyce"
"Satyr"
DaveJ
"Habshi"
"Ma�k"
"Kilmer"
"Guy"
HD Lee
Chris Johnson
"Sherahdicus"
"Bungalow Steve"
"Text Medium No. 5"
"TransWench"
Harry
Peter van Velzen
Charles Dikkens
Aunt Martha
Syd Levine
GaryG (convicted 1/15/07 --> stricken 3/15/07)
James Hajicek
"old man joe"
Vernon
"jitter"
"Kadaitcha Man"
Roy Mock (r m)
Grandpa Chuck
Pete Stapleton
"Ernst Primer"
"Russell McDade"
"Blash"
"Jude+Alexander"
Steve O (convicted 1/28/07 --> stricken in 1967)
Terry Austin
Randy (aka Pulpitfire or �andy)
Paul Duca
"BatGuy"
"SameAsB4"
Lars Eighner
"Doc Smartass"
"Zap"
James (bir...@allvantage.com)
Chris Johnson (again)
Stephen Anderson ( Zerubbabel )
"Parsifal"
"the_Host"
"platothelapdog"
M. Ranjit Mathews
Darrell Stec
Martin
"Mistylien"
Peter Aitken
"The Bookman"
"Widdershins"
Lew Bates
Frank Hildner
James R. Hunt (BlackDruid)
Sarah548
Susan
Diane Ball (The Operator)
Richard Periut
Paul L
Joseph Littleshoes
JZW
Paul D. Wright
"JoeSpareBedroom"
"New Jack Ruby"
"Barry"
George Chen
Lionel
"Gatekeeper"
"Hawki"
Hannele
BobD
"Cubit"
"Bud"
"towelie"
Johnnie McCoy
Andrew W.
"BubbaGump"
Glenn (servitum or owd)
Robert Weldon
Bill Dunkenfield
"the 14th disciple"
Gary
Robert Schuh
Chuck Stamford
Kevin
"Eskimo Joe"
"Bob Officer"
Bob Blaylock
Will, T2
Jay Levine
Kevin Bertsch
jim
Evelyn Ruut
Jeanne (Haggis)
Richard Catto
Kathy Claytor
Nico
Martha(MI)
ab...@hotmail.com
Vernono O
Michael F. Poellot
Loretta Eisenberg
George M. Carter
Shawn Hirn (again)
L.T. David
Cameron (runlikeanantelope)
Alan S.
Bill (Frisbee�)
John (Abrams1117)
Miz Daisy Cutter
Pete
Marten Kemp
Notan
Frank t2
TC
John Williamson
Joe Smith
theBeaver
Peter Larsen
Larry (ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu)
John P.
Rev. BR Collins
Geoff
Dale A. Solomonson
JHD
zxcvbob
CM
Thorsten Schier
Davybear
tatman
Ferd Farkel
Quentin Grady
Michelle Malkin
Mark Thorson
Steve Young
Cary Kittrell (again)
Helen Back
Don Kirkman (again)
Mike (em)
Julie Bove
L. Roberts
Doug Freese
Global Warming
Kathy Griffin (convicted 09/08/07 --> stricken 2003)
Kenneth Doyle
Percent(%)
Marsha
Juliet (WaCoder)
Elvira
Frank (listener)
Assime
Fester
Michael Vick
Aaron
GH
Peter Barber
Shearwater
Manatee
Susan (flav...@verizon.net)
Sami
Patsie Hatley
B'in'yamin C'r'amer
Dr. Phil
Doug
DarkSentinel
Small Giant
Kelly (Luv4Yisroel)
Fastmoggy
Rose
Chris Malcolm
Mystified One
DigitalMortal
Billy Colburn
Zob
John Williamson
Epicurus (Tervicz)
Studemania
Wendy Baker
Lurfys Maw
monkfish
weatherwax
Phobos
Fred Jones
Athena
Albert Andrascik
Lisa C (Blackrots)
Ted
Adonis
Mordecai
Douglas (Protoman)
Maggie
Stan-O
John Weatherly
Alan C.
John N.
Citizen Jimserac
Fred Thomas
Matt Parish
Pro-Humanist
Dan Listermann
Carole
Peter B.
Reverent Fear of GOD the Father.


Overturning the Conviction.

Sign Guestbook Guestbook by GuestWorld View Guestbook

Copyright � 1995-2011 by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America) 404.699.2780
This page of the Atlanta Cardiology Web Portal was Last Updated on
Sunday, February 20, 2011.
Disclaimer and Privacy Statemcy Statements.
</quote>


See this details:
<quote>
The purpose of this page is to list our dear friends
and neighbors who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
*********************************************************
</quote>

So, quite obvious, Satan Ben Hua Chung considers himself to be the Holy
Spirit.

What next? Does he have a gun?



13. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten
Commandments
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is nothing but an insane liar. See here:

emorycardiology.com as checked on Feb, 12th., 2011:

<quote>
Tribute to Emory Cardiology

Good evening!

This is my personal tribute to an institution at the forefront in
bringing about
new developments in the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular
disease. As
these pathological entities become better understood in terms of
molecular and
cellular biology, diagnostic, therapeutic, and preventative cardiology
approaches will change dramatically in coming years. I anticipate that
the Emory
Division of Cardiology will remain at the cutting edge by recruiting and
retaining internationally recognized experts. Of particular note is
their track
record in clinical cardiology established by Drs. R. Bruce Logue and J.
Willis
Hurst; in interventional cardiology established by Dr. Andreas Gruentzig
and as
led by Dr. John Douglas; and in vascular biology and medicine by the
research
group established by Dr. R. Wayne Alexander in 1988.

More recently, Emory investigators have completed the landmark COURAGE
Trial
under the leadership of Dr. Bill Weintraub that is certain to change the
face of
cardiology in America. I will remain one of their biggest fans.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
***********************
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist
Author of Be Hungry (now in its second printing!)
John 15:13 <><
</quote>

No one would be such an idiot to pay Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung 1
Million
Dollars AND TO LET CHUNG STILL HAVE HIS BULLSHIT ON THAT DOMAIN.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung spits on the Ten Commandments.



14. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung tramps on dying patients and on dead
patients.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine. He tramps on dying patients and
on dead
patients.

See here:

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (Bob Pastorio)
Usernames and passwords are exclusively for folks involved in
investigating Bob
Pastorio (past...@rica.net). Sign Guestbook � Guestbook by GuestWorld
...
www.heartmdphd.com/pastorio.asp - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day as a ...
14 Apr 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio dying on April Fool's day is a
sign from
GOD ... In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio: ...
heartmdphd.com/Love/TheTruth/ - Cached

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (Libel)
30 Nov 2010 ... With malice presumably motivated by a personal hatred of
the
2PD-OMER Approach published on this web site, Mr. Pastorio did willfully
...
www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp - Cached

"April 1st: National Atheist's Day." - sci.med.cardiology | Google ...
1 Apr 2007 ... dear Bob (this one) Pastorio, is taken from the world on
this
day. ... Especially the family of our dearly departed Bob(this one)
Pastorio:
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Bob/ - Cached

Walk Don't run - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
22 Dec 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio did not have long in retrospect:
... You
will soon know just as Pastorio now knows that indeed Jesus is GOD ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Fester/ - Cached

Please pray for the soul of dear convicted neighbor Don Kirkman ...
29 Oct 2007 ... Pastorio: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob. Bob was
also
pathologically untruthful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/libel.asp ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/DonKirkman/ - Cached

Ping: Dr. Daniel Palestrant, founder and CEO of Sermo. - sci.med ...
2 Dec 2007 ... reminding us of our dearly depart Bob (this one)
Pastorio, who is
presently being eternally tormented in hell. ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForDon/ - Cached

Think About It - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
30 Oct 2007 ... They were cued up for our dearly departed Bob (this one)
Pastorio... http:// HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... who died
inauspiciously on
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell/ - Cached

Daily Spirit-guided thought for 12/20/07. - sci.med.cardiology ...
20 Dec 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio, who was not hungry (therefore
was not
being blessed by GOD) the days before his untimely demise inauspiciously
on ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForFerd/ - Cached

HeartMDPhD.com - Atlanta Cardiology Information Portal
24 Oct 2006 ... Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06
-->
deceased 04/01/07). Donna Kupp � Kate (aka "TigerLily") ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/ - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Hypothesis becomes Spiritual Law ...
3 Apr 2007 ... In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ Convicts/Bob. As for knowing who are the very
elect, ...
heartmdphd.com/HolySpirit/Proof/ - Cached

Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: fulfilled prophecy. - sci.med ...
22 Nov 2007 ... "Bob Pastorio, you do not have much time left" --
Andrew, in the
Holy Spirit. Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement: ...
heartmdphd.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy/ - Cached

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
11 Jan 2011 ... The same way I knew that our dearly departed Bob (this
one)
Pastorio > did not have much time left. Then that is EVIL of you to tell
me "You
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/CrazyFour/ - Cached
Please pray for the endangered soul of dear convicted neighbor ...
21 Dec 2007 ... You remind me of our dearly departed Bob (this one)
Pastorio
because you do not have much longer either:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert/ - Cached

HeartMDPhD.com - Atlanta Cardiology Information Portal
Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06 --> deceased
04/01/07).
Donna Kupp � Kate (aka "TigerLily") � Mike Painter � "Hatchetmama" ...
heartmdphd.com/convicts/ - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: The truth prevails and remains ...
2 Apr 2007 ... neighbors: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts. In memory of
our
dearly departed Bob( this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Frank/ - Cached

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (History Behind the 2PD ...
Bob Pastorio (was a retired chef who hated the 2PD-OMER Approach) "I
think it's
perfectly well scientifically substantiated, based on a reasonable ...
www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp - Cached - Simhed


15. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
------------------------------------------------------

<quote>
Reply-To: "Peter B" <.@.>
From: "Peter B" <.@.>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Dr. Hildner's letter to Dr. AB Chung, original no comments of
mine. Chung can not delete.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:06:17 -0700
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <4c7aafaa$3...@news.x-privat.org>

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.


After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.


Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
more.


Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?


Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
your colleagues.


Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.


Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
</quote>


16. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
------------------------------------------------------------------------

One example:

<quote>
Subject: Re: WDJW status for 02/18/11 ...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
<eeca3280-9687-4b3b...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
[...]

> The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> places in the world ...

Lie.

Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
government money with a government web site in a country where there
is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:
</quote>


17. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung claims to have sold the domain

emorycardiology.com

for 1 Million Dollar. But fact is: the text is framed:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Tribute to Emory Cardiology </title>
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://tinyurl.com/a4dwl" frameborder="0" />
************************************************************
<frame frameborder="0" noresize />
</frameset>
<!-- pageok -->
<!-- 04 -->
<!-- -->
</html>

This shortened link of above

http://tinyurl.com/a4dwl

expands to :

http://www.heartmdphd.com/ec/

,which is nothing but a subdirectory on Satan Ben Hua Chung web-space.



18. How did Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung forge all his medical exams?
-------------------------------------------------------------------

A) Example 1:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Patiently praying here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:56:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
<ce5eb41a-7a2a-47d8...@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com>
[...]
Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero.
</quote>

This is Great Sage Itchy's comment on this damned stupid statement:

"Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
knows. You show almost NO real medical knowledge. You have no
experience to speak of. How you were able to fool Emory U. and get
through medical school is a mystery. They must have known you were not
right in the head. I'm guessing that they were afraid to throw you out,
as they should have, because of your religious fanaticism, and possible
backlash from far-right religious elements in the community.
Every word you type in these groups is a lie. Everything about you is a
LIE. You are a disturbed creep, and a dangerous and evil person."


B) Example 2:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,misc.health.diabetes,alt.support.diabetes
Subject: Wonderfully hungrier ...
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:02 -0500
Message-ID: <ifnsm65p451pt4bgn...@4ax.com>

Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be
accompanied by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire
to eat real food even **before** the eating happens.
</quote>


How on earth did Satan Ben Hua Chung pass his medical exams? It seems
more and more that he forged his exams.

How on earth can a medical chamber sit silent on their behinds in regard
of such an insane criminal like satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung as a member
in their lines!?


19. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up
breastfeeding
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
and foetus nouriture via umbilical cord
---------------------------------------


<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Patiently praying a 31st time here for Aribert's perishing soul
...
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
<125225c3-26de-4955...@w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com>


> Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
> and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
> knows.

Correct.

This does mean that their being hungry as evident by their being able
to take to the breast does not mean they are starving for they have
indeed been getting adequate nutrition parenterally via the maternal
circulation.
</quote>


How can a person so damned stupid as Satan Ben Hua Chung still be a
member of the medical chamber?


20. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung libels and defames Dr. Frank Hildner
-------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> tried to threaten me. He wrote:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Patiently praying a 4th time here for Aribert's perishing soul
...
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Message-ID:
<81199525-fa52-4fc6...@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
References: <17307-4D6...@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net>
<7ee607a8-dcfb-4f7c...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
<i9l2n6dkisns4mgp2...@4ax.com>
<bd98e517-e191-4840...@f36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
<3ag4n6t84ckaqv6re...@4ax.com>
<403e366a-f2c2-40a0...@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com>
<ebc6n693b3jib3kg7...@4ax.com>
<54278edf-cdb8-41a5...@z31g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>
<9hg6n65uptthvn1ss...@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.166.29.78
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:36:32 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Injection-Info: k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.166.29.78;
posting-account=KKqbwwoAAABgyinl3slHP4BKmirGHTZh

[...]
Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death list so they
would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the U.S. to
be charged with libel & defamation:
</quote>

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung in public libeled and defamed Dr. Hildner.
See here: 3 of the postings I found:

A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159


The details:
A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife,sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism
Subject: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on
earth.
Date: 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 49
Message-ID: <1153450866.9...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
References: <4i5e1oF...@individual.net>
<12br43v...@corp.supernews.com>
<4i5ipbF...@individual.net>
<12brb6r...@corp.supernews.com>
<4i6qk5F...@individual.net>
<12bsfii...@corp.supernews.com>
<4i7jn7F...@individual.net>
<12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com>
<1153344863.3...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
<a6rtb2pr3djmajhta...@4ax.com>
<zlDvg.174619$F_3....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
<Xns9806B2555A7B9m...@10.232.1.1>
<ej30c2hibo9jkpn1v...@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.219.37.21
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:01:11 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To: <ej30c2hibo9jkpn1v...@4ax.com>
User-Agent: G2/0.2
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Injection-Info: h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.219.37.21;
posting-account=h-3n1g0AAADzxYvEZZy0mvAW0ir0ENRS

John wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
> <spamsu...@google.com> wrote:
>
> >"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> >news:zlDvg.174619$F_3....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
> >
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
> >> and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> >In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.
>
> Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
> first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
> guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
> leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
> attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
> roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
> before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

<quote>
04-24-2007, 03:22 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Guest
Re: Truth frightens the untruthful.
Mike Painter wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Mike Painter wrote:
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> > showing up here.
>
> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.

Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
practice from Dade County to Ocala.

Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>


C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

sci.med.cardiology

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Prepare the way for the LORD...
Date: 14 Jul 2006 12:38:24 -0700
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percy wrote:
> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>
> > On 13 Jul 2006 20:43:59 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <nosp...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:49:41 -0600, John <john9212...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:40:54 -0600, Hawkeye-X
> >>>><hawkeyex-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have in my hand an official complaint form from Georgia Board of
> >>>>>Medical License.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Care to shut up now before I mail it in? You have 24 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here is a sample letter:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>08/04
> >>>>>COMPLAINT FORM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Person(s) Requesting Investigation Person To Be Investigated
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Name Physician's Full Name (First and Last)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Address Physician's Address
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Phone Number Physician's Phone Number
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Give a brief statement of the facts with dates. Use additional
> >>>>>sheets as necessary with copies of relevant documents. PLEASE SEND
> >>>>>COPIES ONLY. MATERIALS WILL NOT BE RETURNED.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>PATIENT'S FULL NAME: _______________________________________________
> >>>>>(It would be helpful if you could include the patient's date of birth
> >>>>>and Social Security number.)
> >>>>>DATE OF BIRTH ____________________ SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
> >>>>>_____________________
> >>>>
> >>>>Gee, I wonder whose name you're going to put in under "Patient's full
> >>>>name". You're not his patient, are you? You're not going to lie, are
> >>>>you? So you have to leave it blank. I wonder what bin they'll file
> >>>>it into?
> >>>>
> >>>>Blessings,
> >>>>John
> >>>
> >>>I'll say John Doe.
> >>
> >>That'll go over real well.
> >>
> >>
> >>>They're not going to bin it after I send them
> >>>copies of Chungboi's rantings. They'll be FORCED to look at it
> >>>thoroughly.
> >>
> >>You are forgetting that Georgia is in the middle of the Bible belt.
> >>The vast majority of folks around here especially the doctors are
> >>born-again Christians.
> >>
> >>Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
> >>
> >>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >>Andrew B. Chung
> >>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> >>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
> >
> >
> > 12 Hours now. Will you shut your fat mouth? A John Doe has probably
> > seen you and will testify against you. And it does not have to be a
> > patient, btw, it just has to be a person that has been monitoring you
> > for a couple of months, and that's me. You have ranted and spouted the
> > word of Jesus too much, and i don't give a shit if Georgia is in the
> > middle of a Satan belt, you are guilty of a conduct unbecoming your
> > profession, and I know a lot of cardiologists here in my city that
> > will agree with me.
> >
> > You have 10pm your time to either put up or shut up.
> >
> > Hawkeye-X
>
> You may want to cc a copy of your package to Dr. Hildner at the Central
> Florida Heart Institute, the place where chung was fired from (after 88
> days).

Actually, Dr. Hilder was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards. He
still can use the cc to perhaps motivate him to lose some weight. He
has a lot of visceral adiposity. It is my wish that he not suffer from
further CV events.

> Just to keep him informed. I'm sure an email address for the above
> institution won't be hard to find.

His email address used to be rocket...@aol.com

Still praying for him and for you, dear Vicki.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

</quote>


D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

<quote>
04-24-2007, 02:13 AM #47
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Re: Prepare the way for the LORD...
Don Kirkman wrote:
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1153010767....@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>:
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> >> article <1152982278.5...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>:
> >> >Hawki wrote:
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1152916919.4...@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >> >> how dumb do you think the readers are??
>
> >> >You are pretty clueless if you don't know what it means when a younger
> >> >doctor helps another considerably older, slower, and visually impaired
> >> >doctor clear out his office and subsequently settles into this office
> >> >space which has the name plate of the new younger doctor replacing the
> >> >one of the older doctor.
>
> >> It usually means the senior doctor is being moved to a better office,
> >> making room for the youngster who otherwise might have to operate out of
> >> a broom closet.
>
> >I helped the retired doctor move his belongings to his car.
>
> There are only two possible explanations: "the retired doctor" was not
> Dr. Hildner (who was still there after you were terminated) or you are
> lying. Which one do you choose?

The truth.

I know Dr. Hildner to be a retired physician who stopped seeing
patients back in 2001 even if he might still be receiving mail at CFHC
as one of the founding shareholders thereby justifying his still being
listed on their web site.

Still praying for you, dear Don.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>


E)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/36a002ca903b999a?dmode=source

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
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alt.atheism,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: IM ASKING FOR DONATIONS FOR HEART SURGERY
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Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>>>> Al Klein wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Revocation would be permanently recorded as such and not as
> >>>>>>>>> "null and void" in the online Florida Medical Board database:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/irm00profiling/searchform.asp?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nor would it be marked "null and void" if they still considered
> >>>>>>>> you qualified to practice medicine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually, it would be marked "null and void" only if the reason
> >>>>>>> is just the physician electing not to pay the licensing fees.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From the web site:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "NULL AND VOID - the licensed practitioner failed to renew their
> >>>>>>> licensure status for two renewal cycles, resulting in their
> >>>>>>> license expiring. Practitioner no longer obligated to update
> >>>>>>> his/her profile data."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ... as compared to ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "REVOKED - the licensing board or department disciplined the
> >>>>>>> licensed practitioner and his/her license was removed. The
> >>>>>>> practitioner is not authorized to practice in the state of
> >>>>>>> Florida. The practitioner is not obligated to update his/her
> >>>>>>> profile data."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> )Being asked to surrender your
> >>>>>>>> license is just a polite fiction for "revoked".)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Such a license would be marked as such. See above.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unless a deal was made that you would not renew your license in
> >>>>>> exchange for not having it revoked.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is not an uncommon practice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hopefully, you realize that being untruthful here means you just
> >>>>> libeled the entire Florida Medical Board which is comprised of
> >>>>> various folks who have dedicated their lives to law enforcement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once again, I assert that it is possible you made a deal not to
> >>>> renew your license in exchange for not having to go through the
> >>>> process that would lead to its revocation.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, it's a not uncommon practice, and there's nothing
> >>>> libelous about discussing it. The medical board does it, the state
> >>>> bar does it, even the FAA does it. Those three are the limit of my
> >>>> seen-it-with-my-own-two-eyes experience; but, as a matter of fact,
> >>>> I understand it is routinely done in other fields as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> The question is, is that what happened to you?
> >>>
> >>> No.
> >>>
> >>> The Florida Medical Board were sympathetic because my employers
> >>> have a history with them that is consistent with what they had
> >>> angrily posted on-line via the HeartMDPhD.com web site that is now
> >>> also archived in Google:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?
> >>>
> >>> So, instead, I received written reminders to renew my license during
> >>> the year before it lapsed.
> >>
> >> Was your license to practice ever suspended in the State of Florida?
> >
> > Thankfully, no.
>
> Did you ever enter into any kind of agreement regarding your license or
> about your freedom to practice in the state of Florida.

Thankfully, no. Laus Deo !

Again, there was no need because the truth always prevails.

HE is invincible.

> > Nor was there ever the possibility because it remains my choice to
> > continue to side with the truth against my former employers.
> >
> > The truth always prevails. HE is invincible.
> >
> > Laus Deo !
> >
> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> > Amen !
> >
> > Laus Deo ! !
> >
> > Marana tha ! ! !
> >
> >> Are you currently practicing medicine?
> >
> > Thankfully, yes...
> >
> > ... without pause since being licensed to practice in Georgia in 1995.
> >
> > Specifically, I continue to serve people in my community as a
> > cardiologist.
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> That's not what I asked you, Chung.

You received extra information after your question was answered.

> I asked you if you're currently practicing medicine.

And I answered your question.

> Let me be more specific. Do you have a clinical cardiology practice with
> regular hours, regular staff, regular patients?

Thankfully, yes. Laus Deo !

> Or is everything you do centered around the Wellness Foundation and that
> moronic diet of yours?

Everything I do is centered around LORD Jesus Christ.

It remains my choice to continue walking with Christ Jesus, Whom I love
with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

> > Laus Deo !
> >
> > GOD is great !
> >
> > Holy is HIS name !
> >
> > Worthy to be praised !
> >
> >> Do you have admitting priviledges in any Georgia hospital?
> >
> > Thankfully, my patients have the freedom to receive in-patient care
> > from any hospital of their choosing in the Atlanta metropolitan area.
> > None have ever been denied such in-patient care when they have needed
> > it albeit the need has been rare for any one given patient per GOD's
> > infinite will. Laus Deo !
>
> No hospital privileges for you, eh, Chung?

Incorrect. Your leading question is consistent with our earlier
observation that you have been untruthful (see below) and with your
intent to deceive.

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b1957ab18d3c93f1?
> >
> >> I read your cv, and it does not appear that you have practiced
> >> medicine in a clinical setting since leaving Ocala.
> >
> > In truth, my CV does not describe Ocala.
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ac_cv1.asp
>
> I wasn't asking about Ocala, but now that you mention it...

Correct. You made the statement above that you read about my history
"since leaving Ocala" in my CV.

> I lived in DeLand until last March, Chung. I worked for an old,
> respected law practice there.

Did you leave because they found you to be untruthful as we observe you
here ?

> I know some attorneys in Ocala. In case you're wondering, just to
> satisfy my own curiosity, I do plan to ask what they know about you.

You would be wiser to ask them about what they know about Dr. Frank
Hildner because he has been in more legal trouble requiring much more
legal defense-work (reason for his moving from Miami to Ocala to
retire) than I have:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?

Printing out Dr. Hilder's message should serve well to jog the memories
of your Ocala attorney friends because it created quite a public outcry
back in 2001 with Ocalans picketing CFHC.

> > Bottomline: You are untruthful.
> >
> > If your intent was to deceive, you are by definition a liar.
> >
> > GOD knows what is in your heart and will judge you accordingly.
> >
> > Your bearing false witness is forgiven as far as I am concerned.
>
> I have borne no false witness. I have asked questions, and I have stated
> some facts.
>
> Where's the false witness in that?

See above.

> >>>>> May GOD keep you heart beating to give you time to understand
> >>>>> this, dear neighbor Rhonda whom I love unconditionally.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't let it concern you. My heart is beating just fine.
> >>>
> >>> That was what Steve Irwin thought up until the last moment:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b?
> >>
> >> Everyone dies. Some sooner, some later.
> >
> > Those who have placed their faith in LORD Jesus Christ thereby
> > receiving GOD's love into their heart possess eternal life and will
> > never taste death.
> >
> >>> Again, may GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time
> >>> to understand all of this, dear neighbor Rhona whom I love
> >>> unconditionally.
> >>
> >> As I said, my heart is fine, and when it's my time to go, I will go,
> >> regardless of your prayers or lack thereof.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to pray on your behalf.
>
> And it remains mine to laugh at you.

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

> Here's a newsflash, Chung: I had you in my killfile, and you continued
> to morph.

My handle has not changed.

> Bad idea.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time to
understand this, dear neighbor Rhonda whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
</quote>



21. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study
New facts ahout the damages he caused to patients
----------------------------------------------------

In his (now) latest idiocy Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung claims having done
a study with - oh, read it word for word:

<quote>
a clinical study held out of Emory University that
***************************************************
enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.
***************************************************
</quote>

How big an idiot can someone be to make that claim, which is so stupid
that everyone can realize the idiocy immediately?

Here are the 2 passages of the posting:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,
sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: *Praying here for Ace's deluded reprobate mind ...
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 06:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<dfebd267-5ec9-4d88...@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
[...]

> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:
>
> For which there is no clinical study.

Actually, there has been a clinical study held out of Emory University
that enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. It remains
this physician's choice to not publish it since it pales in comparison
to the comparably sized but much longer duration 40 year clinical
study by the Great Physician, Who is this physician's Boss, Who
published this in the Bible with the miraculous results of 100%
efficacy (Deuteronomy 8:4). This choice to not publish results that do
not add to what is reported in the Bible would be this lead
investigator's right. Truth is simply reality.
[...]

> > The smartest way to do this is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet (i.e.
> > restricting food choices) but rather to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of real food.
>
> Which is apparently not endorsed by any other physician ...

Lie.

This physician's LORD, Who is the Great Physician, is another
physician and the concept of one right daily amount (omer) for
everyone is by His design as revealed by what is written at Exodus
16:16. Laus Deo for His allowing this physician working in
collaboration with his physician colleagues at Emory University
( http://EmoryIMVC.org ) to discover in 1997 that an omer of real food
*********************************************
weighs 32 oz. All bona-fide physicians who know about the 32 oz of the
*************
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach have given their tacit approval
about it as evident by none either writing or speaking about an
alternative right daily amount of real food.
</quote>


The part which I underligned means that already in 1997 Satan Andrew Ben
Hua Chung was in religious delirium. That is extremely important because
it shows the incidents, which happened 2001 at the "Central Florida
Heart Center"

Central Florida Heart Center
3310 Sw 34th Street
Ocala, FL 34474

(that is FOUR YEARS LATER after 1977), in a new light. It shows that
what Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung committed at the clinic ALREADY was
driven by insanity. So, the damage, which Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung did
to the patients there, was not caused by some medical misinterpretation,
but instead by an extremely strong WILL to do things accordings to his
idiotic religious bullshit.

I strongly advise all patients of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
************************************************************
to sue him to death.
********************



23. The case of "Cygnus Consultants", a camouflage of Satan Andrew Ben
Hua Chung
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is one piece more about Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung:

http://www.cygnusconsultants.com/

<quote>
Cygnus Portfolio

* The Bandy Family
* CARDIOware '97
* C.T.'s 95th Birthday
* Emory Cardiology
* For Birds Only
* Go Red Health Fairs
* Island Paradise
* South Cobb Lions Club
* The Wellness Foundation, Inc.
* Wild at Heart Men's Ministry

Cygnus is a registered First Virtual merchant.
Write Us!
sup...@cygnusconsultants.com

Copyright � 1996-2010
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
</quote>



http://www.cygnusconsultants.com/

is a redirector to

http://www.heartmdphd.com/cygnusmed/


So it is no wonder that the domain is hidden:

<quote>
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

Domain Name: CYGNUSCONSULTANTS.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS13.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS14.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

</quote>


Back in 2005 a Usenet posting (Don Kirkman - 13 Jun 2005 19:56 GMT)
reveiled:

<quote>
>http://www.TheHealthFair.com

Registrant:

Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
*************************************
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com

Domain Name: THEHEALTHFAIR.COM
Created on: 26-Apr-05
Expires on: 26-Apr-06
Last Updated on: 26-Apr-05

Administrative Contact:
Chung, Andrew cardio...@heartmdphd.com
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States
(404) 699-2780 Fax -- (404) 699-2145

Technical Contact:
Chung, Andrew cardio...@heartmdphd.com
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States
(404) 699-2780 Fax -- (404) 699-2145

The Wellness Foundation:

Registrant:

Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com

Domain Name: THEWELLNESSFOUNDATION.COM
Created on: 21-Nov-03
Expires on: 21-Nov-06
Last Updated on: 23-Aug-04

Administrative Contact:
Chung, Andrew cardio...@heartmdphd.com
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States
4046992780 Fax -- 4046992145

Technical Contact:
Chung, Andrew cardio...@heartmdphd.com
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
6041 Colt Ridge Trail
Mableton, Georgia 30126
United States
4046992780 Fax -- 4046992145

Truth sometimes IS simple.
</quote>


"Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.", as it still is.

http://www.heartmdphd.com/cygnusmed/
<quote>

Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
Workshops for a Better Work Environment
(404) 699-8695
email: sup...@cygnusconsultants.com


General Information

Cygnus is a privately-held corporation that provides consultation
services in
the interest of helping others.
Menu of Consultation Services

* Better Health Workshops - We teach your employees how to become
healthier
so that they become more productive with less illness and disability.
Fees for
this on-site workshop start at $300.
* Pan-Flu Preparedness Workshops - We prepare your employees for
what
experts believe to be an inevitable catastrophic event that could
otherwise
destroy your business if your employees are not prepared. Fees for this
on-site
workshop start at $300.
* Cygnus Portfolio - some of our work where we have helped others
set up
their web pages.
* Select - some links.

Write Us!

Copyright � 1996-2010
Cygnus Medical Consultants, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
</quote>

So Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is offering "better health workshops", but
how!?
Someone, like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung, who FOR YEARS now gives false
medical
advice, is totally incapable of giving REAL medical advice. He is a
danger to
the public.



The following, I guess, are supporters for him, and are guilty for his
occuring
in public:

http://www.seravia.com/corporation/georgia/tesseract-communications-inc-1lalwwrvgr
<quote>
TESSERACT COMMUNICATIONS, INC.Company Record

TESSERACT COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
Georgia Company Filing #0456078
Basic Data
Entity Type Profit Corporation
Formation Date Sep 15, 2004
Status Active/compliance
Entity Number 0456078
Home Jurisdiction Georgia
Principal Address 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Mableton, GA, 30126
Registered Agents
E-LEE CHANG 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Mableton, GA, 30126
People
Name Position Address
E-LEE CHANG Secretary 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Mableton, GA,
30126
E-LEE CHANG CFO 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Mableton, GA, 30126
E-LEE CHANG CEO 6041 Colt Ridge Trail, Mableton, GA, 30126
Global Company Records
</quote>



24. The insane claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
---------------------------------------------------

The medical claims made by Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung are rightout
insane. Here is one of the many pieces of proof for that:

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:20:34 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Chips, Fries, Soda (and Red Meat) Most to Blame for
Long-Term
Weight Gain
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > snip> > > There is no evidence that VAT is anything except
> > > > > > > deleterious.
> >
> snip> > > > > Moreover, when there is no VAT, the GI tract is
> healthier to keep
> > > > > > exogenous AGEs from getting into the parenteral circulation.
> >
> > > > > How it can be possible?
> >
> > > > Matthew 19:26
**********************

> >
> > > > > Whether VAT are like brown fat?
> >
> > > > No.
> >
> > > > > Whether VAT burning provide heat ?
> >
> > > > No.
> >
> > > No doubt that eating right amount can decrease VAT but still, Are
> > > there some healing agents which can decrease VAT?
> >
> > Not while there is overeating.
> >
> > > Many people vwho are overeating but do not develop VAT but become
> > > obese due to SAT whearas others can develop VAT. How such difference
> > > occur?
> >
> > VAT, which includes intra-arterial atherosclerotic plaques, is a
> > consequence of overeating for all as evident by the presence of fatty
> > streaks in young soldiers on autopsy during wartime.
>
> Whether VAT accumulation is intra-arterial or outer-arterial?

Visceral.

> Is it overeating of all type of foods or some specific foods which can
> increase AGEs?

Simply overeating, which is simply eating more that the right daily
amount (32 oz) of food irrespective of kinds.
*********************************************

> Are VAT accumulation is related to specific foods?

No.
</quote>



Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is solely fixated to the weight, see his
"right daily
amount (32 oz) of food irrespective of kinds."

"irrespective of kinds", that is so insane that one must call the
medical chambers which still have Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung as a
member, to be as criminal as he is. How on earth can a medical chamber
accept such an insanity as Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is!?

And, do keep in mind: Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be
erased from the planet.

Yes, he means killed. Yes, he means death.
==========================================

See here:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: The wages of sin is death ...
#############################
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:25:28 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<e31f34bd-64d5-4f9e...@n5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e7924a7074601ae4?

May GOD annihilate lying sockpuppets like you right now with fires
******************************************************************
from Heaven, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->
http://T3WiJ.com
************
</quote>



25. Satan Sndrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to die
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to die. Yes, no doubt, Satan
Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet.

See here:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD " <disc...@t3wij.net>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Mom passed away yesterday
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 05:09:20 -0700
Message-ID: <iupm5b$2g2$2...@dont-email.me>

Debbie wrote:

> I've been sad since mom's death
> I haven't been able to sleep
> and I haven't eaten anything since yesterday

Smarter to freely choose to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body by holding
to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food thereby stopping the
overeating that causes the VAT that leads to having type-2 diabetes.

Don't be sicken dead by the sin of gluttony like your obese mother was
when she died of type-2 diabetes out of wilful disobediance.
</quote>


And there is no doubt: Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to die.

See for yourself:


<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Re: Mom passed away yesterday
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<77a2ad5c-feb2-4334...@m18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>


May GOD annihilate lying sockpuppets like you right now with fires
from Heaven, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->
http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
</quote>


DO NOTE: Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung does mean death!
-----------------------------------------------------

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: The wages of sin is death ...
#########################################
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:25:28 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<e31f34bd-64d5-4f9e...@n5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e7924a7074601ae4?

May GOD annihilate lying sockpuppets like you right now with fires
******************************************************************
from Heaven, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->
http://T3WiJ.com
************
</quote>




26. Satan Ben Hua Chung is an aggressive stalker and criminal
-------------------------------------------------------------

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Optimizing systolic bp in diabetics
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<2bbdcdc7-313f-4864...@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>
Injection-Info: e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.166.29.78;

Susan wrote:

>
> This is more in line with the finding of no benefit of treatment to
> below 140/90...
>
> http://www.theheart.org/article/1234025.do?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=20110602_EN_Heartwire
>
> "Their meta-analysis supports the conclusions of the Action to Control
> Cardiovascular Risk in Diabetes (ACCORD) blood-pressure trial published
> last year [2], which compared systolic BP of <140 mm Hg vs <120 mm Hg
> and found no benefits from the aggressive target other than reduced
> stroke risk, Bangalore added. "I don't think we should be very
> aggressive in trying to get these patients as low as possible," he said."

Instead, we should be very aggressive at getting these patients to
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://WDJW.net/Guard the body by holding to the right daily amount
(32 oz) of food thereby stopping the overeating that caused their
type-2 diabetes in the first place.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
</quote>



27. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung thrown out of First Baptist Church of
Woodstock
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung uploads videos to YouTube.com. One of them
was harvested as a piece of evidence and stored in the files archive of
http://www.transgallaxys.com

http://www.transgallaxys.com/~aktenschrank/religioeser_wahnsinn_im_krieg_gegen_kranke/
CHUNG_message_machine_1.flv

This is the transcript of what the man on the phone says to Satan Andrew
Ben Hua Chung:

<quote>
Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church Woodstock. Andrew, I need to inform you that you're
not allowed to come back to our campus. I don't want you to show up this
weekend, I don't want you to come back, okay? That's the decision we're
making today. And you need to know if you do come back, we'll remove you
from the property and beyond that, if you come back, I will call the
police. Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow it to end right
now. Thank you and have a good day.
</quote>


28. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
--------------------------------------------

Hunger kills braincells!
*************************

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells show that. They were made
in
Germany in about 2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS. And there are studies
in the
USA. THEY ARE FACTS.

There are studies about hunger and brain shrinkage. Like this one:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9754441

<quote>
Psychiatry Res. 1998 Jun 30;82(3):171-9.
Proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy in acute, juvenile anorexia
nervosa.

Schlemmer HP, M�ckel R, Marcus A, Hentschel F, G�pel C, Becker G, K�pke
J,
G�ckel F, Schmidt MH, Georgi M.

Institute for Clinical Radiology Mannheim, Faculty of Medicine,
University of
Heidelberg, Germany. h.sch...@dkfz-heidelberg.de
Abstract

Anorexia nervosa is usually associated with a shrinkage of the brain
that is at
least partially reversible with weight gain. The pathogenesis of this
brain
abnormality is unclear. The purpose of this study was to investigate
potential
alterations in localized proton magnetic resonance (1H MR) spectra of
anorectic
patients immediately after an interval of excessive weight loss. Twelve
patients
and seventeen control subjects were examined. Water suppressed 1H MR
spectra
were recorded from two voxels placed in the thalamus and in the
parieto-occipital white matter. The spectra of ten patients could be
evaluated.
Comparing patients and control subjects, significantly higher signal
intensity
ratios of choline containing compounds (Cho) relative to total creatine
(Cr) as
well as significantly lower ratios of N-acetyl-aspartate (NAA) relative
to Cho
were found in the white matter region. We hypothesize that these results
indicate an abnormal starvation, associated membrane turnover, which
predominantly takes place in the white matter. No evidence for neuronal
degeneration was found in the thalamus or in the white matter region.

PMID: 9754441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
</quote>


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.20840/abstract
<quote>
Brain tissue volume changes following weight gain in adults with
anorexia
nervosa

Christina A. Roberto MS1,2,*, Laurel E. S. Mayer MD3, Adam M. Brickman
PhD4,
Anna Barnes PhD5, Jordan Muraskin BA4, Lok-Kin Yeung BA4, Jason
Steffener PhD4,
Melissa Sy BA, Joy Hirsch PhD, Yaakov Stern PhD4, B. Timothy Walsh MD3

Article first published online: 19 MAY 2010

DOI: 10.1002/eat.20840

Abstract
Objective:

To measure brain volume deficits among underweight patients with
anorexia
nervosa (AN) compared to control participants and evaluate the
reversibility of
these deficits with short-term weight restoration.
Method:

Brain volume changes in gray matter (GM), white matter (WM), and
cerebrospinal
fluid (CSF) were examined in 32 adult women with AN and compared to 21,
age and
body mass index-range matched control women.
Results:

Patients with AN had a significant increase in GM (p = .006, ?2 = 0.14)
and WM volume (p = .001, ?2 = 0.19) following weight restoration.
Patients on average had lower levels of GM at low weight (647.63 � 62.07
ml)
compared to controls (679.93 � 53.31 ml), which increased with weight
restoration (662.64 � 69.71 ml), but did not fully normalize.
****************************

Discussion:

This study suggests that underweight adult patients with AN have reduced
GM and
WM volumes that increase with short-term weight restoration. � 2010 by
Wiley
Periodicals, Inc. Int J Eat Disord 2010;
</quote>

Facit: Hunger leads to a irreversible damage to the brain.
##########################################################



29. DO NOT FORGET: FIGHT HUNGER!
--------------------------------

CHRISTIAN RELIEF FUND:
http://www.compassionlink.org/html/food_relief.html#CRF

STOP HUNGER NOW:
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer?pagename=who_we_are
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

HUNGER IS UNACCEPTABLE:
http://www.austinfoodbank.org/hunger-is-unacceptable/
http://peacenowar.net/newpeace/images/stories/hunger-sm.jpg

30 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR DIE OF HUNGER:
http://www.austinfoodbank.org/images/HiUlogo.gif

.
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> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:

Nonsense! Ayoob is merely aware, as all educators should be, but as
Chung seems not to be, that children put into classes without proper
breakfasts perform more poorly for themselves and disruptively to the
class as a whole that those children who have properly broken their
fasts.

BGK

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>
> Very nice review, plus I was happy to see from the link sightwalker's
> strabismus is corrected with the use of non contacted eyewear. He sure
> doesn't look as retarded as when he's going naked.

All of this has come way too late. There was a time when it would've
created quite a sensation within Usenet, but now virtually nobody
cares anymore.

It has long since been correctly deduced:

That Chung has no real practice, but rather had an imaginary office
set up in his tiny house.

That Chung a charlatan outcast amongst Christians, who consider his
Biblical interpretations as gobbledygook.

And that lichened nutritionists of course do not endorse his
cockamamie hunger diet approach.

There's really nothing more to say or find out or expose about Chung.
He's old news. His one and only 15 minutes of semi-fame came by way of
the death of a child. Not really much of an achievement.

This ends up as the case of a scholarship being completely wasted on a
crackpot. Sad. So very sad.

BGK

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> starvation" as evident by the following article:
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-panned-for-feeding-kids-twice/
>
> "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> a much easier fix."
>
> Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.
>
> Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> dinner are not starving if they are hungry. Those who are dying from
> anything including starvation are not hungry.

So let's http://WDJW.net/BeSane about this.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

Uirgil

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-pann
> > ed-for-feeding-kids-twice/
> >
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

Actually, what Keith Ayoob stated clearly, bur Chung carefully snipped
out, is the well known fact that children who are put into classes
without having an adequate breakfast are disruptive of the educatinal
process, not only for themselves but also for the entire classes, as is
clear in the following complete quote.






http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition Clinic
at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛


So Chung would have those poor kids going to school hungry and thus
being disruptive and less able to learn.

Better compassionate and wise like Keith Ayoob than arrogant and dumb
like A Chung!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> Andrew, in a Hellish Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-pann
> > ed-for-feeding-kids-twice/



Chung's quote mining makes the article say what it does not say.

It is ell known in educational circles, though apparently not to Chung,
that young students who go to classes without breakfasts are both less
able to learn and are more disruptive of the clsses thatn those who hev
a proper breakfast.

Keith Ayoob merely advocates that a method be found to prevent double
breakfasting where the schools and some homes both provide breakfasts.

Since that is a beneficial proposal, those, like Chung, who call it evil
are the ones promoting evil.




"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

NO, Keith Ayoob truly thinks hungry unbreakfasted students in classes
make things worse for everyone. It is Chung who thinks his shit don't
smell!
> >
> > Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> > dinner are not starving if they are hungry.

But their classroom performances before such lunches will be strongly
degraded, and may even degrade others in the same classrooms..

And it is their performance in morning classes that is the real bottom
line.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:

Actually, Ayoob says nothing like that, so Chung is lying!
> >
"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And Chung favors letting children go to school without breakfasting, a
policy well know among educators to be both disruptive of and
counterproductive to their education.

Which makes Chung a bad guy and Ayoob a hero!

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snip

> http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger

Do you realize that article/interview shows just how batshit crazy you
actually *are*?

Or did you post it up on purpose so that when they arrest you, you can
plead down to manslaughter (based upon your mental state)?

Lawyer up, bro..your gravy train's about to derail.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://www.rationalist.com.au/archive/73/p20-27_paul_ar73_web.pdf

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> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-pann
> > ed-for-feeding-kids-twice/
> >
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

Wrong! As the whole quite proves:

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

So that Chung LIES, and Ayoob only wants what is best for the school
children, a proper breakfast for them so they can do their best in
school.

Chung would have them go without breakfast, which is well known by
educators to produce serious behavioral problems in classes.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:

On the contrary, Keith only says hungry kids make bad students.
But an un-breakfasted hungry child student cannot do as well in class
and too often disrupts others because of his or her hunger, so for Chung
to advocate hunger instead of breakfasts for such student children is
immoral, irresponsible, and unChristian.

And that Chung keeps repeating his immoral claims is even more
unChristian of him.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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<a774f611-1e11-4b8e...@g4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:

Actually, what Keith Ayoob says in that article is that it is well known
that sending kids to classes without breakfasts is bad educatonal policy.


So that Chung is once again as wrong as he can be,
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-pann
> > ed-for-feeding-kids-twice/
> >
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

Real conclusion: Keith Ayoob truly thinks that sending hungry kids into
classes disrupts those classes. It is well known by those at all
familiar with schools and the education of the young that sending kids
to school classes without breakfasts is harmful. That Chung does to know
it marks him as ignorant, which would not be so bad except that he is
pontificating about something of which he is ignorant, this revealing
both his ignorance and his arrogance.
> >
> > Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> > dinner are not starving if they are hungry.

But if they are hungry, they should be fed before putting thim into
classrooms!

So it is ABChung who is tho only one WRONG on this issue, and he seems
to be invincibly resistant to correcting his error.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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In article
<d131ffe7-4916-4cc2...@b6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holey Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-pann
> > ed-for-feeding-kids-twice/

Actually it is Chung who is suffering from a terrible delusion, since
what Ayoob says is perfectly true and in no way deluded, namely that
letting children start morning classes in school without having
breakfast first is a BAD educational policy, in which both the hungry
students and the rest of their classes lose significantly.
> >
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

WRONG!!! Honest conclusion: Chung is off his nut!

Ayoob, along with every other knowledgeable educator, thinks that
letting kids go to classes without having broken their fasts is bad
educational practice..
> >
> > Bottom line: Kids missing breakfast though still getting lunch and
> > dinner are not starving if they are hungry.

But they are disruptive of their classes until they get that lunch!
>
> So let's http://WDJW.net/BeSane about this.
>

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
But proven to be an incompetent educator

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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In article
<eeb36b2c-9dc1-4bc8...@c20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:

Actually that article shows that Keith is only interested is seeing that
school children get breakfasts, either at home or in school, before
going to classes, which is wise educational practice, and that Chung the
Chimp is the only one suffering from any terrible delusion.

As anyone who reads the article can see:

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

So that Chung the Chimp is the only one here suffering from terrible
delusions.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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In article
<06b2b2a6-7776-4ce6...@o5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation"

Keith is only concerned with the performance of school children in their
classes, which is well known to educators to be considerably better when
they have ALL have had adequate breakfasts.
> >
> > "We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
> > overeating," he (Keith Ayoob) said. "A child getting two breakfasts is
> > a much easier fix."
> >
> > Conclusion: Keith Ayoob falsely thinks that hungry kids are starving.

Real Conclusion: Chung is out of hid f**king mind!

Nothing in the citation justifies Chung's idiotic assumption.


"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

GysdeJongh

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Uergil wrote:


<http://www.thelunchtray.com/should-parents-lose-custody-of-morbidly-obese-children/>

Should Parents Lose Custody of Morbidly Obese Children?
by BETTINA ELIAS SIEGEL on JULY 14, 2011
Two readers sent me links to this news story, which has gotten a lot of
media play: David Ludwig, an obesity doctor at Children's Hospital Boston,
and Lindsey Murtagh, a researcher at Harvard's School of Public Health, have
published an opinion piece in the most resent issue of the Journal of the
American Medical Association arguing that in cases of life-threatening
childhood obesity, the state should intervene and place the child in foster
care.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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In article
<8935e530-6659-4d9f...@g4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Dumps, wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the knowldege that "hunger in
> > in clssroome is bad thing!
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Uergil

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In article
<5f143037-db6d-4ba5...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation"
Chung may suffer from delusions but Ayoob does not,

What Ayoob object to is sending unbreakfasted students into clsses where
their hunger causes harm.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.

And note that nowhere in the article that Chung himself cites did Ayoob
ever say, or imply, that hunger was starvation, so that Chung is
revealed as a hippocritical lier as well as being totally wrong!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Uergil

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Oct 21, 2012, 2:35:40 AM10/21/12
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In article
<6dd54ba9-91c4-4c70...@r6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Andrew, in an Unholy Spirit, sinfully wrote:
> >
> > Keith Ayoob suffers from the terrible delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" as evident by the following article:
> > http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-panned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

Not to anyone who actually reads the article, in which Ayoob only
repeats the well know educational fact that children who get to classes
without breakfasts are more disruptive in those classes.

Read it for yourself and see how badly Chung lies about Ayoob:

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/