WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
St Dog the Wet
WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
We, the people, do not make war
War is the vocation of Rulers
Men who claim authority as from God
Authority to imprison and kill you
If you will not join their army
To enforce their authority
Men who claim and usurp authority
Who seize and grasp power
Kings, Queens, Emperors and Lords
Prime Ministers, President and Aristocrats
Dictators, Despots, and Tyrants
Chiefs, Generals and Captains
Ecclesiastics, Priest, Popes
Those men who claim Authority
Make War upon "We the People"
So It Is Written
"What king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not
down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand
to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?"
"Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice
[Kings] make war." Luke 14:31, Pr 20:18
Satan Claims Authority to make War
It is written in God’s Word that Satan will make war
Rev 6:1-2 He who makes war is given a Crown.
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as
it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come
and see.
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had
a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth
conquering, and to conquer.
Rev 6:3-4 He who makes war is given Power
"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast
say, Come and see.
"And there went out another horse that was red: and power was
given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and
that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a
great sword.
Rev 20:7-8 (YLT) To Gather Them To War
"And when the thousand years may be finished, the Adversary shall
be loosed out of his prison, and he shall go forth to lead the
nations astray, that are in the four corners of the earth -- Gog
and Magog -- to gather them together to war, of whom the number
is as the sand of the sea"
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the
beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war
against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Satan Is The Beast who is released out of the Pit to make war.
http://tinyurl.com/nvdyq
::: veralein :::
St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
So was it Satan that led you there?
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From: oldwetdog <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: OWD steals your identity
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Brian Garrison wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:03:35 -0600, "HeLovesYou"
> <fprimeaunoth...@ndak.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Brian Garrison" <justabranchNOS...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:s36r10pngvco3lout...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 00:20:05 GMT, "JPF" <f8thn...@nospam.net> wrote:
<snip>
> But, do you think that it was okay for OWD to do what he did? And if
> we do believe that he has sinned against another, shouldn't we pray
> for his restoration? I'll tell you, I am so grateful to all of you for
> doing that for me. You displayed your love for me in so doing.
>
>
> Be Encouraged,
> -Brian
>
> "Jesus Christ is not valued at all until He is valued above
> all." --Augustine.
Brian,
Seeing as how this NG has been a little hectic, I am late in commenting
on your comment... (yea, I know, excuses...)
Brother, I find it difficult to express how much I admire the courage of
a man who can stand in the front of the congregation of the people of
God, and say, "I am guilty..."
Brother, you have got a lot of credit in my account...
However....
As for Griz, Vera and Abby/Jeannette, TBC, Cal or Mike or those of the
Griz Cult, I reserve the right to wage unlimited warfare: there is no
limit, no boundary, no rules, no border, no space or place in which I
will not wage war against them...
Do you understand me?
Jeannette used a medical diagnosis over 30 years old in an attempt to
slander me...
I will *not* respect any borders,
I will *not* respect any conventions,
I *will* wage unlimited war,
I will show *no* mercy
I *will* make war.
It *is* War
From now to the end
it *is* war
From now until He comes,
It is war.
--
oldwetdog
-----
"Sophistry is not a system of ideas, but a vicious attitude of the
mind." Jacques Maritain
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
=======end of his post========
There he was posting under the handle "Oldwetdog". He usually changes
his handles before he starts a new war on people. Please be careful with
that guy. He was one of those who chased those he named in that post off
ACC - and there has really never been a "cult" but a newsgroup with
people following Jesus whom Oldwetdog AKA St Dog the Wet Aka Glenn
McClary denies. This above is just one of his brutal posts he published
in that time. There are many more - and all just because he could not
accept Charismatic Christians while he himself is a false teacher who
denies the Deity of Christ. Back in January 2004 he commanded us to
"surrender" to him, or he would persecute us abusing the private
information he had used in the months before.
So let me warn you.
::: vera :::
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John 14:6-7 WEB Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. If you had known
me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and
have seen him."
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St Dog the Wet
> In news:12bqds0...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>
> So was it Satan that led you there?
Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)
Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison
The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
the NG...
Brian Garrison is one who "left" the NG and then returned as a
sock puppet to attack those who resisted Vera and Griz
Other person who left and returned with new names were Jannette
(Abby) and Mike Barefield
Those who love Truth search for it, those who don't, don't.
To do this, go to...
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
for example, use in the fields --
Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
(or leave blank)
Date: try short date spans, otherwise you get too wide a responses
1Oct2003 to 31Jan2004, or 1Jan2004 to 1July 2004, and etc.
Poster: "Vera" "Jeannette" "Mike Barefield" "Brian Garrison" (or
any, or leave blank)
You may also use the a poster's name in search terms to see what
others think of that poster
try,
key words (search terms):
"Vision"
"Please leave" "just leave" "Christ left"
and follow the results for a thread or two
links to ACC flamewar
Examples of Cult conduct on ACC
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10240pepe8t9i84%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/zga4p
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10251sms41a4m5a%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/f425f
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1024ll51et99la6%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/fbbt7
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1025tcmh820otcf%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/ebhla
Context
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=vvrhnn8ri5lqfd%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/qtyf2
Control
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=vvpu94tj2ljce4%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/qjuzc
Griz Defence of False Prophecy "Glenn McClary, Prophet Hunter"
the Post,
http://www.google.com/groups?q=+looking+OR+for+OR+a+OR+false+OR+prophet+group:alt.christnet.christianlife+author:griz&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_qdr=m&selm=vvojicn05u4n14%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=71
http://tinyurl.com/lxocg
Glenn McClary, Prophet Hunter / the Thread
http://tinyurl.com/gzutc
You will notice several things in this thread: First is the long
running confusion between the three Glenns, and regardless that
Glenn(Christian Mystic) seems to disregard the confusion, Glenn
(Eric (webTV)) and I (Glenn(bagman/oldwetdog)) have made more
than one effort as far back as 14Dec2003 to correct this issue.
false prophets #1
http://tinyurl.com/nsq3y
false prophets #2
http://tinyurl.com/p6jr4
false prophets #3
http://tinyurl.com/gb3yz
Vera names her favorite false prophets!!
Vera posted "My favourite prophets here"
http://tinyurl.com/npdlv
(note the spelling of "favorite" Vera is German)
Pastor Dave
<g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that
genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
St Dog the Wet
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:33:17 -0700, St Dog the Wet
> <g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>
> And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
> and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:
Note again that Dave does not refute my post with fact and
evidence, but engages in false accusation and ad hom attack.
Dave, when you don't post the evidence of your false accusation,
you prove yourself to be a false accuser
To do this, go to...
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
for example, use in the fields --
Group: alt.christnet.christianlife
(or leave blank)
Date: try short date spans, otherwise you get too wide a responses
1Oct2003 to 31Jan2004, or 1Jan2004 to 1July 2004, and etc.
Poster: "Pastor Dave", "Ananias917", "AD70" (or any, or leave blank)
You may also use the a poster's name in search terms to see what
others think of that poster
try,
key words (search terms):
"debate the issue"
"point to point"
and follow the results for a thread or two
"dumb ass" or "stupid"
http://tinyurl.com/zqdww
"lying" or "liar"
http://tinyurl.com/ztcq4
"a bullet" + "brain" or "brains"
http://tinyurl.com/s27e6
::: veralein :::
St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> In news:12bqds0...@corp.supernews.com,
>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>
>> So was it Satan that led you there?
>
> Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)
>
> Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison
>
> The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
> began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
> who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
> the NG...
I did not start anything like a "war" - that was you, you liar. Where
did I make "war"??? Proof, or shut up.
You started this bloody flame war with the beginning of January 2004.
Everyone can check that out (or does this really look like "war" on my
part: http://tinyurl.com/nat34 dated Jan 1 2004???) and also that I have
not praticipated in any war before YOU started it - here is the one of
your "war" posts again:
=========start of his post==========
Brian Garrison wrote:
<snip>
--
oldwetdog
-----
"Sophistry is not a system of ideas, but a vicious attitude of the
mind." Jacques Maritain
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
=======end of his post========
Dated 01 Feb 2004.
What a liar you are.
You even sent me a privat e-mail in which you announced that you were
going to attack people in ACC.
And there was no "cult" - just the wish of some heretics like you that
the Christians there might leave, that is all. There were a number of
good people there, and it was a pleasure then to be a part of this
newsgroup. All that is left now there is that one can warn against all
the false teachers like you or "Pastor" Dave that you cannot make too
many disciples. How many did you leave a wrong path in 2004?
Look there what you posted:
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From: oldwetdog <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Griz Cult: Terms of surrender
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Griz Cult: Terms of surrender
There are no terms.
There will be no negotiation.
Luke 14:31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth
not
down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet
him
that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an
ambassage,
and desireth conditions of peace.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he
hath, he
cannot be my disciple.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.
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Know this:
You made war,
You made war on MY people
There will be no peace
None, no peace.
I am against you
Wherever you go to
there is no place on earth
or heaven above or heaven below
that I will not find you
and make war on you
I will make war
I am war
on you
War!
(You might want to know that I have spent the last 90 days in collecting
information... google is *my* friend!)
(You might want to know that I know your ISP, and that your personal
information is available as pubilic information.)
(Sh#t, the net is *MY* friend!)
You knew this, right, when you decided to make war?)
Only fools commit acts or war when they are not ready for war.
oldwetdog
--------------------------
Those who do not understand war, should not commit an act of war.
oldwetdog
I am against you.
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+-<[:-)>>>- oldwetdog
-----
Above all else cultivate the power of independent thought. Henry Sabin
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
.
=======end of his post========> Brian Garrison is one who "left" the NG
and then returned as a> sock puppet to attack those who resisted Vera
and GrizBrian Garrison is a wonderful brother in Christ who has never
done anything to anyone. > Other person who left and returned with new
names were Jannette> (Abby) and Mike Barefield> > > Those who love Truth
search for it, those who don't, don't.You have no truth. You have lost
already and condemned yourself.> To do this, go to...> >
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en> > for example, use in
the fields --> > Group: alt.christnet.christianlife> (or leave blank)> >
Date: try short date spans, otherwise you get too wide a responses>
1Oct2003 to 31Jan2004, or 1Jan2004 to 1July 2004, and etc.No, try all
that is there in 2003, before this guy started his flame war. > Poster:
"Vera" "Jeannette" "Mike Barefield" "Brian Garrison" (or> any, or leave
blank)> You may also use the a poster's name in search terms to see
what> others think of that poster> > try,> key words (search terms):>
"Vision"> "Please leave" "just leave" "Christ left"> and follow the
results for a thread or twoI still ask you to leave the Christian
newsgroups with all the division you created, and with all the hate that
you spit at people, just because they did not accept your heresies. You
were much welcomed by the Christians in ACC when you came there,
thankfully you started a flamewar. > links to ACC flamewar> Vera names
her favorite false prophets!!I still love these people - so what?They
did not lie as much as you do. They accept Scripture, and they love
Jesus as their Saviour and God. You are just a fake. > Vera posted "My
favourite prophets here"> http://tinyurl.com/npdlv> (note the spelling
of "favorite" Vera is German)What has my spelling got to do with your
evil lies and your libel? What have they got to do with my nationality?
The people in alt.messianic already know that I am a German. As far as I
have found out, they do not hold that against me. You want to inflame
the people here like you inflamed the people in ACC. Shame in you.[snip]
St Dog the Wet
> In news:12bqhsc...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bqds0...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>> So was it Satan that led you there?
>> Thanks for your reply, Vera :-)
>>
>> Anyone who cares to can google for Vera and Brian Garrison
>>
>> The interesting thing is, that Vera, Griz and the "building crew"
>> began the war of ACC prior to my coming to ACC by asking those
>> who did not agree with the Leadership and Vision of Griz to leave
>> the NG...
>
> I did not start anything like a "war" - that was you, you liar. Where
> did I make "war"??? Proof, or shut up.
>
[clip for length -- see previous thread]
O.K., Vera, you asked for proof? Lets start here
===========================
links to ACC flamewar
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10251sms41a4m5a%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/f425f
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1024ll51et99la6%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/fbbt7
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1025tcmh820otcf%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
http://tinyurl.com/ebhla
Vera names her favorite false prophets!!
::: veralein :::
WHERE IS THAT THAT I STARTED WAR????????
YOU MADE EVERYTHING UP THERE!!!!
WHERE IS THAT????
WHAT AN EVIL AND SICK LYING PERSON YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
St Dog the Wet
Just read the links...
Just follow the names of the persons at the links back to when
Vera joined ACC...
Those who love Truth search for it; those who don't, don't.
owd
::: veralein :::
We are not speaking about persons here, but about ME, and you started
it!!! You are lying about me!!!!!!!! Provably!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS THAT THAT I STARTED WAR????????
YOU MADE EVERYTHING UP THERE!!!!
WHERE IS THAT????
WHAT AN EVIL AND SICK LYING PERSON YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Those who love Truth search for it; those who don't, don't.
Obviously you do not. Your father is the father of lies.
> owd
::: vera :::
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2 Peter 3:10 WEB But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the
elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the
works that are in it will be burned up.
Pastor Dave
<g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>Pastor Dave wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:33:17 -0700, St Dog the Wet
>> <g.aed...@yahoo.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>
>>> WE (THE PEOPLE) DO NOT MAKE WAR
>>
>> And yet, you cheer on the destruction of the planet
>> and the death of billions of people. Hypocrite! (:
>
>Note again that Dave does not refute my post with fact and
>evidence, but engages in false accusation and ad hom attack.
Why state again the evidence, when you dodge it, Dodgeball?
You aren't concerned with truth. And we both know you cheer
on the destruction of the world.
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
"To belittle is to be little."
St Dog the Wet
Vera, when you say someone is lying, you should post your evidence.
I posted the evidence that you, Griz and the members of your
"building crew" were asking people to leave BEFORE I came to this
NG....
All anyone has to do to learn if that is true or not is just
follow the links.
owd
"Mark T"
> VERA MAKES WAR!
Nah!
Vera makes crap!
Too many sausages and too much sauerkraut!
::: veralein :::
WHERE DID I ASK PEOPLE TO LEAVE IN 2003?????????
PUT IT RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE LINES:
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But I gave a number of really nasty posts by you, asking people to
"surrender" at your terms, imitating them to abuse all the personal
information you had collected about them over months.
Shall I post the proof for that again?
You made war against God's People who had welcomed you heartily in ACC.
What do you think is the prize for that?
I am fearing for your soul.
::: vera :::
><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
John 14:6-7 WEB Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the
life. No one comes to the Father, except through me. If you had known
me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and
have seen him."
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
St Dog the Wet
Unbelievers asked Jesus to leave
Luke 8:37 Then the whole multitude of the country of the
Gadarenes round about besought him to depart from them; for they
were taken with great fear: and he went up into the ship, and
returned back again.
Jesus sent out His disciples, and told them:
Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your
words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the
dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the
land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that
city.
"whosoever shall not receive you" are UNBELIEVERS!!
When I came to this NG in Oct 2003, Griz, Vera, and the "building
crew" were using Mat 10:14 as authority to insist that people who
did not agree with them should leave this NG.
See: http://tinyurl.com/nrs5z 5April2003
Quote
And if you are in Christ, what are your commands in regard to
places where the 'Divine condemnations' you offer up are "not
received"? (Initiated in Mat 10:14 with the 12, backed up in
Mark 5 by Jesus' own demonstrated actions before many)
End Quote.
and see:"Please leave" http://tinyurl.com/rh44h
Please Note: In both examples that it is the UNBELIEVERS who are
asking Jesus' or His disciples to leave.
UNBELIEVERS who ask people to leave, who misquote or lie about
the Word of God, are NOT Christians. Unbelievers who use the Word
of God AGAINST God's People are servants of Satan.
In other words, When Vera asks someone to leave this NG, she is
revealing that she is serving Satan.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> But I gave a number of really nasty posts by you, asking people to
> "surrender" at your terms, imitating them to abuse all the personal
> information you had collected about them over months.
>
> Shall I post the proof for that again?
Sure, certainly!!!
I think you should post your "proof" again, post it every day!!
>
> You made war against the Griz Cult who had welcomed you heartily in ACC.
>
> What do you think is the prize for that?
>
owd
::: veralein :::
St Dog the Wet
> In news:12bsfii...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
clip
Thanks, Vera ;-)
owd
::: veralein :::
Oh, for what? For that:
> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
2 John 1:7-11 WEB
(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.
(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
?
Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
> owd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> <snip>
>
> > Just leave !
>
> Thanks, Vera ;-)
You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
11:12,13,14).
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
St Dog the Wet
> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>
> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>
What does the Word of God say, Vera?
owd
Gospel Bretts
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
------------------
Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
::: veralein :::
St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>>
>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>
>
> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
Can you not answer?
You deny the Deity of Christ, and you played tricks on me when I asked
you who Jesus is for you. You called him "my Lord and my God", and later
denied HIs Deity.
> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
2 John 1:7-11 WEB
(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.
(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
Leave, Oldwetdog, just leave this place.
> owd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<snip>
> (10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
> receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
> welcomes him participates in his evil works.
One way to show and evildoer in a non-antagonistic way that they are
not welcome is to ignore him/her. Another is to have the Holy Spirit
completely guide how you respond to the evildoer.
In my experience, the latter is far more effective.
May the LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Vera whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > Just leave !
> >>
> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >
> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >11:12,13,14).
>
Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
> ------------------
>
> Gospel Bretts
> a.a. Atheist #2262
> Fundy Xian Atheist
Oxymoron.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Diana
" ::: veralein :::" <vera...@lycos.com> wrote in
message news:4i7ojeF...@individual.net...
Vera,
Jesus did not cast out people from His presence. Think
girl think. When you feel someone is a demon or evil
should you not rather CAST out the evil not the
person??? What would Jesus do Vera? Would he cast out
the person or the evil from the person???
owd and Pastor Dave...My statement above is in general
and not to reflect that I think you two are evil or
have evil within. I love you both as my Brothers in
Christ as I love Vera as my Sister in Christ.
St Dog the Wet
> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>
>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>
> Can you not answer?
>
> You deny the Deity of Christ,
Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.
owd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Actually, Christ Jesus used a whip to drive out the moneychangers from
the Temple after overturning their tables.
Moreover, HE did not invite the Pharisees to dine with HIM.
Diane, you remind me of Job's friends who would blame Job for the
trouble he was having.
May our LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Diane whom I love.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
::: veralein :::
Diana <di...@nowheretobe.found> typed:
Can you read? This is what Jesus would do:
> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
2 John 1:7-11 WEB
(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.
(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
::: veralein :::
You are now just fishing for sympathy of the other beöievers.
All ACC knows that you deny the Trinity - ans that can only mean you are
what I say.
> <> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
2 John 1:7-11 WEB
(7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't
confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and
the Antichrist.
(8) Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have
accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.
(9) Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ,
doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the
Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you, and doesn't bring this teaching, don't
receive him into your house, and don't welcome him, (11) for he who
welcomes him participates in his evil works.
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh, Glenn?
::: vera :::
><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
Who could bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
(Romans 8:33 WEB)
<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
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> owd
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS EASY!
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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St Dog the Wet
> In news:12btdeh...@corp.supernews.com,
> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>>>
>>>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>>> Can you not answer?
>>>
>>> You deny the Deity of Christ,
>> Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
>> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.#
>
Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your false accusation, then
you are a liar.
owd
::: veralein :::
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
of Life.
Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
>Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
>bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
>of Life.
Indeed.
>
>Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
He needs it too. :-)
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Peace and grace be with your spirit.
Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
wbarwell
>
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>
Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
which makes god stupid.
A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
overnight.
Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
stupid like that.
Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
these lies was stupid.
Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
their own stupidity.
--
"Metaphysics is a dark ocean without shores or lighthouse,
strewn with many a philosophic wreck." - Immanuel Kant
Cheerful Charlie
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>
>
> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> which makes god stupid.
> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> overnight.
>
> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> stupid like that.
> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> these lies was stupid.
>
> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> their own stupidity.
>
>
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor ktay...@getnet.net
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
GaryG
news:p813p3-...@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Agreed...but, that clearly does not rule out mental illness. His posting
history, which includes hysterical failed predictions of "global
earthquakes" and "nuclear exchanges", indicate a mind filled with delusions.
GG
Christopher A. Lee
<ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>wbarwell wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>>
>>
>> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>> which makes god stupid.
>> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>> overnight.
>>
>> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>> stupid like that.
>> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>> these lies was stupid.
>>
>> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>> their own stupidity.
>>
>>
>But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
> >Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
> >bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's Book
> >of Life.
>
> Indeed.
> >
> >Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
>
> He needs it too. :-)
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Peace and grace be with your spirit.
And, with you dear brother whom I love.
The Holy Spirit compels me to reveal to you specifically at this moment
in time here on usenet the answer that GOD has provided for the
question:
Why did LORD Jesus Christ curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit
out-of-season as described in verses 12-14 in Mark 11?
This was done not out of anger but purposefully to teach us that GOD
has given free will to the souls of not only to humans but to the souls
of all the things HE has made including fig trees, rocks, mountains, et
cetera. When our LORD sought out the fig tree for figs, the fig tree
disobeyed its Creator by choosing of its own free will to refuse to
produce figs on the grounds that it was not time to produce figs
(usings the laws of the world/nature as an excuse to disobey the
Creator). Disobeying GOD is sin. And the wages of sin is death for
the souls of all things, and indeed the disciples found the fig tree
withered to its roots in the morning.
With this amazing answer, there is a new understanding of the passage
that follows Peter's observation of the withered fig tree as described
in verses 22-23 of Mark 11. Indeed, there is a new understanding of
each instance where there is a reference to LORD Jesus Christ issuing
commands to things... commanding the waters to calm, commanding rocks
to turn to bread, commanding food to become more plentiful, commanding
a fish to swallow a gold coin and be caught by disciples to provide
payment for the Temple tax, commanding water to turn to wine, and
commanding mud to form new neural connections in the occipital cortex
to allow a man born blind to see.
LORD GOD Almighty is so awesome !
It is such a privilege, as unworthy as I am, to be given HIS answer to
share with the body of Christ doing the LORD's work here on usenet.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind and strength.
Laus Deo !
"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Yes, dear beloved Jesus, you are those things and everything to me...
you are my LORD, my Savior, and my GOD ! ! ! Thank you with all that I
am for your rising up on that 3rd day !
Marana tha ! ! !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> wbarwell wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> > fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> > out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>
> Because he was stupid.
No. That is not the reason why HE cursed the fig tree.
May thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for revealing the
reason to me and giving me the privilege of revealing the amazing
answer on usenet at the appointed time in the very near future.
Still praying for you, dear William.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >
> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
> > which makes god stupid.
> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
> > overnight.
> >
> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
> > stupid like that.
> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
> > these lies was stupid.
> >
> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
> > their own stupidity.
> >
> >
> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Uncle Vic
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> 11:12,13,14).
And I'll bet you think that actually happened, don't you Earthquack? If
so, you'd have to believe in the power of Astrology to predict the future,
magic is really magic, and the weather is caused by the mood swings of
"God."
<sigh>
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
Uncle Vic
(and...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
Just wait until you actually get sick enough to die. Will you go to a
hospital, or a church?
Uncle Vic
> Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
> HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
So God is a babbling moron like you?
Hawkeye-X
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
I'd love to hear it.
DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
Hawkeye-X
Stephen Knight
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> > Just leave !
>>
>> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>
>You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>11:12,13,14).
I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
created.
When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
R. Pierce Butler
news:a6rtb2pr3djmajhta...@4ax.com:
I have a feeling the Chung makes Frank Burns seem totally competent.
Olrik
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> > >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > >> <snip>
> > >>
> > >> > Just leave !
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> > >
> > >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> > >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> > >11:12,13,14).
> >
> > You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
> Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
> LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
No, your "Lord" failed you. You're just not aware of it yet.
Olrik
Hawkeye-X
Based on what Dr. Hildner told me, yeah, makes Ferret Face look like a
friggin' genius.
Hawkeye-X
Gospel Bretts
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Gospel Bretts wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> You need to see a shrink, Dr. Chung.
>
>Many thanks to GOD for your concern though not sincere.
>
It's completely sincere, Dr. Chung. Why else would you think I don't
flame you here like I do the other fundies?
>LORD GOD Almighty keeps me completely well.
>
Nope. He doesn't, because he doesn't exist, and you're living proof of
that. Now go see a shrink and carefully consider what he tells you.
You're an incredibly brilliant guy. Don't waste any more of your life.
Get help.
__________________
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?
or
Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
"KING of kings and LORD of lords"
ASAP.
Still praying for you, dear Steve.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>
> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
He remains untruthful.
> I'd love to hear it.
My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
ever-changing in their stories.
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.
Mike Painter
For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing and
usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
Uncle Vic
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> Stephen Knight wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
>> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> > Just leave !
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
>> >
>> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
>> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
>> >11:12,13,14).
>>
>> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
>> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
>> created.
>>
>> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
>> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
>>
>> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
>> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
Nope. None whatsoever:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a4e3873ad0c81b9?
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd
>
> Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
>
> "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
>
> ASAP.
>
> Still praying for you, dear Steve.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> (nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>
> > Stephen Knight wrote:
> >> On 19 Jul 2006 14:34:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >St Dog the Wet wrote:
> >> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Just leave !
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Vera ;-)
> >> >
> >> >You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
> >> >not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
> >> >11:12,13,14).
> >>
> >> I think the issue is why a ... deity.... creator of the universe...
> >> as smart as it gets... got so mad, it 'cursed' a plant that it
> >> created.
> >>
> >> When figs ripen, do they experience pain like how your god gave
> >> women pain during child birth... after being lovingly cursed by him?
> >>
> >> Any tangible response? Any empirical insight as to this mystery
> >> besides praying for me for asking a 'bad' question?
> >
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/eqqmd
> >
> > Would suggest you start acknowledging that Christ Jesus is:
> >
> > "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
> >
> > ASAP.
<hiss sputter hiss hiss>
Still praying for you, dear Uncle Vic.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
showing up here.
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear Mike.
Uncle Vic
(nos...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
> Still praying for you, dear Uncle Vic.
I don't care.
Hawkeye-X
Indeed, and from what I read, Dr. Chung is really truly an incompetent
doctor, and that's why no hospital would allow Chung admitting
priveleges, and Chung is ignoring this post.
Cluck, Cluck Chung
Afraid to answer the Inquistion of the Holy One?
Hawkeye-X
Hawkeye-X
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Hawkeye-X wrote:
>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>
>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>
>He remains untruthful.
>
Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
ass.
>> I'd love to hear it.
>
>My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
>
>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>
>Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
>myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
>changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
>without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
>**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
>CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
>the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
at CFHC. He said you were fired with cause, and I know *EXACTLY* why.
Do you? Think about what you did, and I'm sure the pastor would say to
you, if he heard the same story I heard from Dr. Hilder, "BEGONE,
UNCLEAN SINNER, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING CLEAN AND NEVER WILL BE!"
And you claimed that Hilder was fired or forced to move on? Guess
what, Hildner said he is STILL and I quote "I was and still
am the Medical Director of the Cardiac Catheterization laboratory at
CFHC." and he has been in the position for 14 years.
His story has not changed, Yours have. And repeatedly. I find it VERY
hard to believe that you could POSSIBLY be telling the truth, when I
VERY much doubt that you know the difference between fantasy and
truth.
>
>Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
>ever-changing in their stories.
Um, that would be you, Chungboi. You're the big fat liar, and I have
the truth on my own e-mail, and I believe his story. He has FAR more
experience than you.
>Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.
I'm sure he's already laughing at your utter stupidity, Chungboi.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew B. Chung
>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Furthermore, I nominate and re-nominate Chung for Coward of the Month,
Tar & Feathers, Joseph Bartlo Pathetic Anal Pineapple Award, Palmjob
Paddle, Busted Urinal Award, Bolo Bullis Foam Duck, and George Pickett
Memorial Trophy, based on the fact that *I* know the truth, and
Chungboi continues to twist the truth as Dr. Hilder predicted
correctly.
and I quote from Dr. Hilder after he first contacted me:
"someday get into Chung's hands where it will be twisted,
misinterpreted and used for his unworthy purposes."
Even your old superior thinks you are UNWORTHY!
Hawkeye-X
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
> > But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
> HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.
>
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Thank you brother Andrew for sharing that wsidom from God with my
weakness. I agree that free-will and disobeying God are certainly
aspects of this blessed story.
May I share that also the fig tree represents Israel/The law. The fig
Tree was like then Israel which was not prepared for the time of her
visitation, though she should have been for she had the Law and the
Prophets. The Fig tree had green leaves which represented the fruiting
season, yet out of season and the Lord of the Universe approached it
being hungry. However, it bore no fruit even though it advertised
fruit by its tender leaves.
The Lord of the Universe cursed the fig tree for having the show of
leaves but no fruit thereof. Likewise Israel had the show of the
Temple, Law and Prophets, but show no fruit. What was this fruit it
missed? Works of mercy, love, compasion, forgiveness, these were the
desire of the law, not a show without fruit.
Why did our Lord choose a fig tree to show to curse to refer to
israel. Two reasons.
1) Fig trees are very moist trees and when cut down the tree last for
a long time before it dries out. yet the Lord cursed this fig tree and
very soon after when they walked past this tree they saw it had
withered and died. Thus the Lord of the universe was able with only a
word, judge and remove the light from that tree immediately.
2). Israel was to reject her Messiah and she was about to be cut off,
however, her destruction was delayed and was not completed until 70
AD, yet God's love for His creation is not such that He has forgotten
about Israel after the flesh, but rather refers to the "when you see
the young shoots, then you will know the time is at hand." The young
shoots of course are the budding of Jacob into faith which many hold
will happen immediately befotre the end of time at the Last day when
Christ returns in Judgement.
The Fig Tree which you have correctly stated through the Holy Spirit
shows that we have free will and that disobedience is punished, is
Israel 9after the flesh-not spiritual israel- the Christian Church).
May God continue to bless and enlighten you as you turn to him in
faith.
Please remember me in your prayers.
Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
Michael Gray
I think that Chung's insanity may have had something to do with the
affair.
--
Mike Painter
>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>
>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>
>>> Hawkeye-X
>>
>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>
> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> showing up here.
>
I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
If you are sane, you would be moving to smaller and smaller communities
trying to get away from your record. When that failed you would move to a
different state.
In the old days, as a last resort, you would probably end up in a college
med center.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
I most certainly will.
May all knees bend and heads bow to acknowledge that Christ Jesus is
indeed:
"KING of kings and LORD of lords"
Amen !
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
ALMs for the poor in spirit :-)
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Mike Painter wrote:
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> > showing up here.
>
> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
practice from Dade County to Ocala.
Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 20:54:56 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>
> >> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >
> >He remains untruthful.
>
> Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
> about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
> details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
> and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
> memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
> ass.
Actually, being untruthful has nothing to do with the amount that he
knows but everything to do with his choice to avoid what is true. His
failing memory is a different issue altogether along with his failing
eyesight.
> >> I'd love to hear it.
> >
> >My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> >
> >> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >
> >Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
> >myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
> >changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
> >without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
> >**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
> >CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
> >the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
>
> Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
> at CFHC.
Actually, he did better by writing it down so that if what he has said
to you is as contradictory as you indicate, you now also know that he
is untruthful:
----Begin Email----
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.
Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in
the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers
more.
Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me
or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once
again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with
your colleagues.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
----End Email----
Simply note the last sentence. Moreover, it should be clear to the
most casual observer that this is a letter written not by a superior
but by a colleague who feels threatened by the truth.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
Athanasius
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Sometimes dear brother it is better to keep the truth close to your
heart and let the wolves attack.
Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
destroy or thieves despoil.
May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
Peace and grace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Truth is simple.
> >
> >Truth is absolute.
> >
> >Truth is invincible.
> >
> >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> >Laus Deo !
> >
> >Marana tha !
> >
> >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
> >
>
> heart and let the wolves attack.
Yes. Truth is close as my buckle holding GOD's armor in place. Faith
is my shield deflecting all flaming arrows from satan's legions of
archers. And the Holy Spirit is feeding my life force guiding me and
empowering me as HE did Samson so that my bare hands are dismembering
legions of satan's footsoldiers in moments, my shout is shattering
mountains in seconds, and my glance is destroying demons in an instant.
With the Holy Spirit, there is infinite strength, speed, and
foreknowledge.
When GOD is for us, who can stand against us ?
> Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
> treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
> destroy or thieves despoil.
Indeed.
> May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
HE has beyond all measure and all deserving. Laus Deo !
> Peace and grace.
May the Holy Spirit continue to comfort, encourage, protect, and
embolden you, dear brother whom I love, in the holy name of GOD's one
and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ, Who chose to suffer terribly
and die horribly on the cross to save us from our deadly sins. Many
thanks, much praise, and all the glory to HIM for rising up on that 3rd
day. Amen !
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Pastor Kutchie
Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
next is your fault.
Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
Athanasius
<use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
>next is your fault.
>
>Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
their group.
I do this as a courtesy.
Peace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Athanasius wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Truth is simple.
> > >
> > >Truth is absolute.
> > >
> > >Truth is invincible.
> > >
> > >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > >
> > >Laus Deo !
> > >
> > >Marana tha !
> > >
> > >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
> >
> > heart and let the wolves attack.
> >
> > Everytime you do that for righteousness sake you will gain even more
> > treasure in heaven stored up for you where moth will not eat, rust
> > destroy or thieves despoil.
> >
> > May our True Lord continue to bless you richly in His Holy Name.
> >
> > Peace and grace.
> >
> > Athanasius, dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
> > http://www.ourchurch.com/member/a/Aus_Orthodox/
> > "If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
> > the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
>
> Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> next is your fault.
>
> Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
In truth, I have no sockpuppets or other follower-equivalents but am
myself a follower and servant of LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/b7213e9d7efb94a5?
or
May GOD help you with your poor self-esteem, dear "little piece of
excrement" (your name for yourself per your usenet post which is
accessible via the link below my sig).
Amen !
Laus Deo !
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Yes, dear Jesus, that and my LORD, my Savior, and my GOD !
Marana tha !
Pastor Kutchie
Athanasius wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> >next is your fault.
> >
> >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
>
> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
>
> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> their group.
>
> I do this as a courtesy.
>
> Peace.
>
>
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
respectful human being and not, as I now realise, your sockpuppet.
It is a given, however, that you won't.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Earthquack? And why are you so consumed by your need to dehumanise and
dismiss me and others who have you bang to rights as a liar, twister
and a fraud, to such an extent that you have demonstrated on your own
website what a twister you are?
Or is it another example of your failure at English comprehension?
Either way, you have shown the World Wide Web how stupid you are.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> >next is your fault.
> >
> >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
>
> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
>
> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
bowl ?
> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> their group.
What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
> I do this as a courtesy.
They will take it as fear.
> Peace.
Just as Christ Jesus is not of this world.
We are not of this world.
Just as Christ Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world, but HIS
sword.
We have not come to bring peace to the world but the truth, Who is our
LORD.
Just as the risen Christ Jesus gave us HIS peace, which passes all
worldly understanding.
We share the LORD's peace with each other while standing resolute in
the truth.
The truth takes away the complacent and false peace of this world.
May the Holy Spirit give you the stamina to persevere to the very end,
dear brother whom I love, in Jesus' infinitely powerful and holy name.
Your reward will be given to you after crossing the finish line and is
not the race itself.
Amen !
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 00:49:04 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> condition?
Ask and answered already.
Would be happy to advise you after getting your history and examining
you.
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that you are exhibiting signs
of vascular dementia.
Still praying for you, dear Fred.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > >next is your fault.
> > >
> > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> >
> > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> >
> > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
>
> Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> bowl ?
>
> > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > their group.
>
> What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
> > I do this as a courtesy.
>
> They will take it as fear.
>
I took it as the action of a decent human being. Even synthesising
decent human behaviour is beyond you. That is far from normal, you
know.
Steve O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153381744....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Athanasius wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2006 23:43:23 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Truth is simple.
>> >
>> >Truth is absolute.
>> >
>> >Truth is invincible.
>> >
>> >"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
>> >
>> >Laus Deo !
>> >
>> >Marana tha !
>> >
>> >Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
>> >
>>
>> Sometimes dear brother it is better to keep the truth close to your
>> heart and let the wolves attack.
>
> Yes. Truth is close as my buckle holding GOD's armor in place. Faith
> is my shield deflecting all flaming arrows from satan's legions of
> archers. And the Holy Spirit is feeding my life force guiding me and
> empowering me as HE did Samson so that my bare hands are dismembering
> legions of satan's footsoldiers in moments, my shout is shattering
> mountains in seconds, and my glance is destroying demons in an instant.
>
> With the Holy Spirit, there is infinite strength, speed, and
> foreknowledge.
>
> When GOD is for us, who can stand against us ?
Looks like a certain former cardiologist is heading for another meltdown.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240
"Apparently, as I understand it , I am supposed to repent for being the way
that God made me, and then God will save me from God's wrath?"
Michael Gray
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <L5Fvg.70547$fb2....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>
>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Mike Painter wrote:
>>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>>
>>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>>
>>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>>
>>>> Hawkeye-X
>>>
>>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>>
>> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>> showing up here.
>>
>
>I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
>privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
>If you are sane,
Now that is where your advice falls down, I'm afraid.
>you would be moving to smaller and smaller communities
>trying to get away from your record. When that failed you would move to a
>different state.
>
>In the old days, as a last resort, you would probably end up in a college
>med center.
>
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:08:43 GMT, "Mike Painter"
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> - Refer: <L5Fvg.70547$fb2....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> Mike Painter wrote:
> >>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>>
> >>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>>
> >>>> Hawkeye-X
> >>>
> >>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >>
> >> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> >> showing up here.
> >>
> >
> >I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> >privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
> >
> >If you are sane,
>
> Now that is where your advice falls down, I'm afraid.
Yes, you are afraid.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and filled with fear of the truth.
Still praying for you, dear Michael.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 01:59:12 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Yes.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and filled with fear.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
There has not been a first.
Bottomline: You are untruthful and so you fear.
Still praying for you,dear Steve.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Athanasius wrote:
> > > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > > >next is your fault.
> > > >
> > > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> > >
> > > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> > >
> > > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> >
> > Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> > bowl ?
> >
> > > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > > their group.
> >
> > What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
> What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
It can be used as medicine.
> > > I do this as a courtesy.
> >
> > They will take it as fear.
>
> I took it as the action of a decent human being.
You truly believe this is about you.
> Even synthesising
> decent human behaviour is beyond you.
The Holy Spirit continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.
> That is far from normal, you know.
That depends on HIS will, you don't know.
May GOD help you with your poor self-esteerm, dear neighbor.
Athanasius
<and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
>>
>> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
>
>Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
>bowl ?
We are told not to cast our pearls....
>
>> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
>> their group.
>
>What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
The Lord spoke in Parables for it was not for all the interpretations
of the kingdom. :-)
>
>> I do this as a courtesy.
>
>They will take it as fear.
Its not.
How they take it is irrelevant.
>
>> Peace.
>
>Just as Christ Jesus is not of this world.
Christ Jesus was silent before herod, for the same reason I am silent
in this matter.
>
>We are not of this world.
They do not live in the City that we do.
>
>Just as Christ Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world, but HIS
>sword.
Spiritual sword.
>
>We have not come to bring peace to the world but the truth, Who is our
>LORD.
The one who remembers every idle word.
>
>Just as the risen Christ Jesus gave us HIS peace, which passes all
>worldly understanding.
Who said if your peace is not received it comes back to you and to
leave that city, is your peace received in those groups?
>
>We share the LORD's peace with each other while standing resolute in
>the truth.
Yes and it is an honour to share with you.
>
>The truth takes away the complacent and false peace of this world.
For those who are willing to receive it, not by force.
>
>May the Holy Spirit give you the stamina to persevere to the very end,
>dear brother whom I love, in Jesus' infinitely powerful and holy name.
Thank you for your prayers and well wishes. May the Holy Spirit
continue to bless you always. :-)
>Your reward will be given to you after crossing the finish line and is
>not the race itself.
May it be so. And for you as well brother Andrew.
>
>Amen !
Amen.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Through the prayers of the saints of this day, may the Lord forgive us
our sins and grant us His mercy and grace.
I am happy to discuss these things further offline Andrew if you wish,
my email is below, just remove remove. :-)
Peace and grace be with you from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 20 Jul 2006 01:37:08 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >> I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> >>
> >> I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> >
> >Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> >bowl ?
>
> We are told not to cast our pearls....
That suggestion followed HIS helpful suggestion for us not to judge
others and tempts us to judge that HE contradicts HIS earlier
suggestion that we not judge. How can we know someone is swine without
judging him/her?
The answer is we can't. What is impossible for us, is possible with
GOD (Matthew 19:29).
> More importantly, how can we love someone whom we have judged to be swine ?
The answer is we can't. And so, if we choose to judge others, we will
be unable to obey our LORD's second of two commandments.
Therefore, this is not a contradiction but a test and a lesson.
This serves to test our faith in Jesus' teachings where many will fail
the test and fall away after having judged our LORD and Savior to be
contradictory (many in AA and agnostics fall in this category). This
serves to teach us to rely totally on HIM as we understand that we may
unknowingly and lovingly throw our pearls to swine but we trust HIM to
either steer us clear of such folks or heal us whole after we are torn
to pieces. Whatever be GOD's infinite will, let it be so.
> >> I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> >> their group.
> >
> >What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
>
> The Lord spoke in Parables for it was not for all the interpretations
> of the kingdom. :-)
The Holy Spirit was sent to help counsel us about the LORD's teachings
:-)
> >> I do this as a courtesy.
> >
> >They will take it as fear.
>
> Its not.
>
> How they take it is irrelevant.
It is written that when it comes to dealing with non-believers we
should seize every opportunity to further GOD's kingdom here on earth.
> >> Peace.
> >
> >Just as Christ Jesus is not of this world.
>
> Christ Jesus was silent before herod, for the same reason I am silent
> in this matter.
> >
> >We are not of this world.
>
> They do not live in the City that we do.
> >
> >Just as Christ Jesus did not come to bring peace to the world, but HIS
> >sword.
>
> Spiritual sword.
> >
> >We have not come to bring peace to the world but the truth, Who is our
> >LORD.
>
> The one who remembers every idle word.
> >
> >Just as the risen Christ Jesus gave us HIS peace, which passes all
> >worldly understanding.
>
> Who said if your peace is not received it comes back to you and to
> leave that city, is your peace received in those groups?
> >
> >We share the LORD's peace with each other while standing resolute in
> >the truth.
>
> Yes and it is an honour to share with you.
> >
> >The truth takes away the complacent and false peace of this world.
>
> For those who are willing to receive it, not by force.
There is no force when informing folks about the truth in the manner of
posting to an unmoderated usenet newsgroup.
> >May the Holy Spirit give you the stamina to persevere to the very end,
> >dear brother whom I love, in Jesus' infinitely powerful and holy name.
>
> Thank you for your prayers and well wishes. May the Holy Spirit
> continue to bless you always. :-)
>
> >Your reward will be given to you after crossing the finish line and is
> >not the race itself.
>
> May it be so. And for you as well brother Andrew.
> >
> >Amen !
>
> Amen.
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Through the prayers of the saints of this day, may the Lord forgive us
> our sins and grant us His mercy and grace.
Amen.
> I am happy to discuss these things further offline Andrew if you wish,
> my email is below, just remove remove. :-)
It remains my choice to persevere in an open Christian fashion.
> Peace and grace be with you from the Lord Jesus Christ.
And with you. May the LORD's peace, which passes all worldly
understanding, remain with us forever in Jesus' most precious and holy
name.
Amen !
Many thanks and praise to GOD for the unity that comes from the
infinite love that our LORD has for us.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
::: veralein :::
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nos...@heartmdphd.com> typed:
> St Dog the Wet wrote:
>>>>> veralein ::: wrote:
>>> In news:12bt9tm...@corp.supernews.com,
>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>> In news:12bt82u...@corp.supernews.com,
>>>>> St Dog the Wet <g.aed...@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>>>> Did God come in the flesh, Glenn?
>>>>>
>>>> What does the Word of God say, Vera?
>>>
>>> Can you not answer?
>>>
>>> You deny the Deity of Christ,
>>
>> Vera, if you cannot give evidence for your accusation, then you
>> are a liar. pure and simple, you are a liar.
>
> Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
> Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does not
> bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the Lamb's
> Book of Life.
Thank you, Andrew, for all you do, and for what you see in me. It means
much to me.
::: vera :::
> Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
::: veralein :::
Athanasius <dcn_ath...@REMOVEyahoo.com.au> typed:
> On 19 Jul 2006 17:03:26 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
>> Your choosing to attack someone who is clearly walking with Christ
>> Jesus instead of public confessing your relationship with HIM does
>> not bode well for the status of the listing of your name in the
>> Lamb's Book of Life.
>
Thank you very much, Athanasius.
>> Still praying for you, dear Glenn.
>
> He needs it too. :-)
He needs prayer night and day.
Be blessed,
::: vera :::
>> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Peace and grace be with your spirit.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Athanasius wrote:
> > > > On 20 Jul 2006 00:57:05 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie"
> > > > <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Take a look at where you crossposted this to. What is going to happen
> > > > >next is your fault.
> > > > >
> > > > >Welcome to reality, sockpuppet.
> > > >
> > > > I am not a sockpuppet (I guess you mean Andrew) I am not he.
> > > >
> > > > I now note the atheism and kooks headers, my mistake, sorry for that.
> > >
> > > Leaving a lamp uncovered is no mistake for who covers a lamp with a
> > > bowl ?
> > >
> > > > I shall remove it after this post as I do not post to stir atheists in
> > > > their group.
> > >
> > > What value is salt when it loses its saltiness ?
> >
> > What value is venom whane it loses its toxicity?
>
> It can be used as medicine.
>
> > > > I do this as a courtesy.
> > >
> > > They will take it as fear.
> >
> > I took it as the action of a decent human being.
>
> You truly believe this is about you.
>
belong in this discussion any more.
> > Even synthesising
> > decent human behaviour is beyond you.
>
> The Holy Spirit continues to guide me in all that I say, do, and write.
>
No, hatred and contempt guide everything you do.
> > That is far from normal, you know.
>
> That depends on HIS will, you don't know.
Have you ever been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome?
Karl E. Taylor
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:35 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
> <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote:
>
>>wbarwell wrote:
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>>>> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>>> which makes god stupid.
>>> A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>>> overnight.
>>>
>>> Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>>> stupid like that.
>>> Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>>> these lies was stupid.
>>>
>>> Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>>> their own stupidity.
>>>
>>>
>>But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.
>
So then it's true, PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper. :-D
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor ktay...@getnet.net
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
Karl E. Taylor
> "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktay...@getnet.net> wrote in message
> news:p813p3-...@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
>> wbarwell wrote:
>> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >
>> >> You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
>> >> fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
>> >> out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).
>> >>
>> >
>> > Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
>> > which makes god stupid.
>> > A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
>> > overnight.
>> >
>> > Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
>> > stupid like that.
>> > Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
>> > these lies was stupid.
>> >
>> > Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
>> > their own stupidity.
>> >
>> >
>> But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?
>
> history, which includes hysterical failed predictions of "global
> earthquakes" and "nuclear exchanges", indicate a mind filled with delusions.
>
Oh, believe me, I know Chunks is insane.
Making light of his degree is my way of dealing with the depression I feel at the
fact that good money was wasted to educate a psychopath.
Hawkeye-X
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>Mike Painter wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Mike Painter wrote:
>> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
>> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd love to hear it.
>> >>>
>> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>> >>>
>> >>> Hawkeye-X
>> >>
>> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>> >
>> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>> > showing up here.
>>
>> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
>> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
>Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
>because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
>against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
>non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
>practice from Dade County to Ocala.
>
>Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew B. Chung
>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
Umm, Hildner never lost his priveleges and was NEVER facing lawsuits.
Let's try another story.
Come on, you're making Jesus fall down and laugh at you.
Hawkeye-X
Mike Painter
> Mike Painter wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> Mike Painter wrote:
>>>> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>>>>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that
>>>>> Andrew B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hear it.
>>>>>
>>>>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkeye-X
>>>>
>>>> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
>>>> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
>>>
>>> He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
>>> showing up here.
>>
>> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not
>> having privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.
>
> Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
> because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
> against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
> non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
> practice from Dade County to Ocala.
>
I'm talking about you and not interested in what is "apparently" a lie about
another doctor.
As for your praying for me, it's just another example which shows how
effective such actions are. I still remember when "prayer and a dime would
buy a cup of coffee". Even that does not work any more.
kora...@gmail.com
"Onward Christian spa-a-mers,
Spam-ming as be-e-fore,
With the cross of Je-sus
Left be-hind the door..."
:-)
Jason Johnson
B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2006 20:54:56 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>
> >> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >
> >He remains untruthful.
>
> Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
> about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
> details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
> and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
> memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
> ass.
Actually, being untruthful has nothing to do with the amount that he
knows but everything to do with his choice to avoid what is true. His
failing memory is a different issue altogether along with his failing
eyesight.
> >> I'd love to hear it.
> >
> >My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.
> >
> >> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >
> >Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
> >myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
> >changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
> >without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
> >**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
> >CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
> >the medical records of my patients in Ocala.
>
> Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
> at CFHC.
Actually, he did better by writing it down so that if what he has said
to you is as contradictory as you indicate, you now also know that he
is untruthful:
----Begin Email----
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.
Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in
the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers
more.
Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me
or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once
again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with
your colleagues.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
----End Email----
Simply note the last sentence. Moreover, it should be clear to the
most casual observer that this is a letter written not by a superior
but by a colleague who feels threatened by the truth.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Still praying for Dr. Hildner and you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Doctor Chung,
I noticed the title of one of the posts was
CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE
My first thought was
CHUNG WAS FIRED BE-CAUSE HE IS AN OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN THAT HAS
COMPASSION FOR HIS PATIENTS AND FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.
I don't know all of the details but based upon the details that I
do know--your true boss is not the hospital administrator so as long
as you please that boss you have nothing to worry about.
Remember these words: "Forgive them because they know not what they do."
Hang in there.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
listener
52-22-1.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net:
> Doctor Chung,
> I noticed the title of one of the posts was
> CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE
> My first thought was
> CHUNG WAS FIRED BE-CAUSE HE IS AN OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN THAT HAS
> COMPASSION FOR HIS PATIENTS AND FOR TELLING THE TRUTH.
>
> I don't know all of the details but based upon the details that I
> do know--your true boss is not the hospital administrator so as long
> as you please that boss you have nothing to worry about.
>
> Remember these words: "Forgive them because they know not what they do."
>
> Hang in there.
> Jason
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>
I pictured that image of the kitten hanging by its paws....can this off-
topic wacko-religious stuff can anymore nauseating?
I'm tempted to change my nick to "TrueBoss"!
L.