THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. KENNEDY --- A LONE-ASSASSIN VIEWPOINT
David Von Pein
LINKS TO VARIOUS D.V.P.-AUTHORED ESSAYS, REVIEWS, AND COMMENTS
REGARDING THE NOVEMBER 22, 1963, ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F.
KENNEDY AND THE MURDER OF DALLAS POLICE OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT:
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THE WARREN COMMISSION GOT IT RIGHT:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4b8dae7b150da043
THE WARREN COMMISSION GOT IT RIGHT (PART 2):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e2a229774508e859
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT -- POINT-BY-POINT:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4a6b3390021d657c
A COMMON-SENSE APPROACH TO THE "SINGLE-BULLET THEORY":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e06a29392572c072
WHERE'S THE LOGICAL "CONSPIRACY-ORIENTED ALTERNATIVE" TO THE SBT?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8ee3ea6cfa4a58c9
THE ABSURDITIES OF THE "OSWALD-AS-PATSY" CONSPIRACY PLOT:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/606503e4d63e74ad
THE "PATSY PLOT" SILLINESS (PART 2):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dd321914097fcd2d
THESE TWO THINGS PROVE LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S GUILT:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/909b5b194cab1cbe
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S MOTIVES FOR KILLING PRESIDENT KENNEDY:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/66803e710380d800
EVERYTHING LEE HARVEY OSWALD DID ON 11/22/63 SAYS "I'M GUILTY!":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4dd73f8e676a5db8
JIM GARRISON WAS DEAD WRONG (PART 1):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/2317ac73008b3c8a
JIM GARRISON WAS DEAD WRONG (PART 2):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9d4772fbe4df0bcd
MORE "SINGLE-BULLET THEORY" TALK (COMMON SENSE INCLUDED):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d16a5df97cccb32c
YET ANOTHER "SINGLE-BULLET THEORY" ESSAY:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c19abd308e0026e1
STILL MORE "SBT" LOGIC (TONGUE-IN-CHEEK STYLE):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/12f589407f8baf66
JOHN CONNALLY IN 1967 SAID THE "SBT" IS POSSIBLE:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/741a872f58796bfe
HOWARD L. BRENNAN -- WITNESS TO A TRAGEDY:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/23a82b5e83ce0ff6
THE "BOH" WITNESSES VS. THE AUTOPSY DOCTORS -- WHO'S RIGHT?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/42a0bbac40f320f5
WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS CRAZY JFK THEORY?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7448f602cc9b26e3
JFK CONSPIRACY THEORIES GALORE (PART 1):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/5ac4a7c8a086bb36
JFK CONSPIRACY THEORIES GALORE (PART 2):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/43e50295440e48b0
HOW TO FRAME A LONE PATSY FOR JFK'S MURDER (AND HOW NOT TO DO IT):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f4466b08f8be7c36
IF PRESIDENT KENNEDY WAS SHOT BY MULTIPLE GUNMEN, THEN WHY IS IT...?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9f9db2052413d59d
WAS LEE OSWALD "PLACED" IN THE BOOK DEPOSITORY BY PLOTTERS?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/64195df0086af9b4
SOLID VALIDATION THAT LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS IN THE SNIPER'S NEST:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/182cecc7c4e37bb2
THE WARREN REPORT -- IT MAKES PERFECT "LN" SENSE:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/6577daadba0e46a4
MUSICAL CASKETS AND THE "BODY-ALTERATION" SILLINESS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/0de08844600b8c7a
"WELL, THEY SAY IT JUST TAKES A SECOND TO DIE":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9ff403dedacb5d4f
THE "BACKYARD PHOTOS" OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD -- REAL OR FAKE?:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/abf2ea54c9dddca4
THE "CRYSTAL-BALL-GAZING" CONSPIRATORS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/747e6695f071ec3f
LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS A LIAR -- EXAMINING HIS MANY LIES:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ea04b9e6141f0098
THE IMPORTANT AND OFTEN-OVERLOOKED WITNESS STATISTICS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7b06a89bd4042363
"FINAL VERDICT" BY VINCENT T. BUGLIOSI:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1fb1e67721e35822
MOVIE REVIEW -- "FOUR DAYS IN NOVEMBER":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.video/msg/5093634b419405d5
MOVIE/DVD REVIEW -- OLIVER STONE'S "JFK":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/51b89da58d3e6489
BOOK REVIEW -- "THE JFK MYTHS" BY LARRY M. STURDIVAN:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4d505fe064fccafb
BOOK REVIEW -- "WITH MALICE" BY DALE K. MYERS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1bdb7e56f0427853
BOOK REVIEW -- "A SIMPLE ACT OF MURDER" BY MARK FUHRMAN:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4c7616a35ac60e22
BOOK REVIEW -- "THE DAY KENNEDY WAS SHOT" BY JIM BISHOP:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d5bfef3e64392e4d
BOOK REVIEW -- "NATIONAL NIGHTMARE" BY RICHARD TRASK:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/48c19f6f3b9122d6
BOOK REVIEW -- "THAT DAY IN DALLAS" BY RICHARD TRASK:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3184c6735973d209
BOOK REVIEW -- "THE KILLING OF A PRESIDENT" BY ROBERT GRODEN:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d24cfcf0d0f8894b
DVD REVIEW -- "THE MURDER OF JFK: A REVISIONIST HISTORY":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/127162626b4861d0
REVIEW -- "THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: BEYOND CONSPIRACY":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/869ebe2de53cbb58
REVIEW -- "JFK II: THE BUSH CONNECTION" --- COMPLETE RUBBISH!:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d5a5eeae1e135fd1
REVIEW -- "THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f0a3e91565c5c2cf
LIST OF JFK-RELATED VIDEOS, DVDs, BOOKS, AND CDs:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9c4caef920ae6a0d
Walt
David Von Pein wrote:
> FROM THE POINT-OF-VIEW OF A LONE-ASSASSIN BELIEVER..........
>
> LINKS TO VARIOUS D.V.P.-AUTHORED ESSAYS, REVIEWS, AND COMMENTS
> REGARDING THE NOVEMBER 22, 1963, ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F.
> KENNEDY AND THE MURDER OF DALLAS POLICE OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT:
>
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Mr. BELIN. Now, you say the window on the sixth floor. What building
are you referring to there?
Mr. BRENNAN. That is the Texas Book Store.
Mr. BELIN. I am going to ask you to circle on Exhibit 477 the
particular window that you said you saw a man leave and come back a
couple of times.
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I am confused here, the way this shows. But I
believe this is the sixth floor, the way those windows are built there
right at the present. I am confused whether this is the same window.
Mr. BELIN. You mean because some windows are open below it?
Mr. BRENNAN. No. The way the building is built, it seems like this is
more or less a long window with a divider in the middle.
Mr. BELIN. Here is a marking pencil. Will you just mark the window that
you believe you saw the man.
All right.
And do you want to put a letter "A", if you would, by that.
All right, now you have marked on Commission Exhibit 477 a circle with
the letter "A" to show the window that you saw a man in, I believe you
said, at least two times come back and forth.
It should be obvious that Howard Brennan is referring to a window where
he saw a man BEFORE the shooting. He identified THAT window with a
circle and the letter "A"
Now, after you saw the man--well, just tell what else you saw during
that afternoon.
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, as the parade came by, I watched it from a distance
of Elm and Main Street, as it came on to Houston and turned the corner
at Houston and Elm, going down the incline towards the railroad
underpass. And after the President had passed my position, I really
couldn't say how many feet or how far, a short distance I would say, I
heard this crack that I positively thought was a backfire.
Mr. BELIN. You thought it was backfire?
Mr. BRENNAN. Of a motorcycle.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you observe or hear?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, then something, just right after this explosion,
made me think that it was a firecracker being thrown from the Texas
Book Store. And I glanced up. And this man that I saw previous was
aiming for his last shot.
Mr. BELIN. This man you saw previous? Which man are you talking about
now?
Mr. BRENNAN. The man in the sixth story window.
Mr. BELIN. Would you describe just exactly what you saw when you saw
him this last time?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, as it appeared to me he was standing up and resting
against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right
shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim
and fired his last shot. As I calculate a couple of seconds. He drew
the gun back from the window as though he was drawing it back to his
side and maybe paused for another second as though to assure hisself
that he hit his mark, and then he disappeared.
And, at the same moment, I was diving off of that firewall and to the
right for bullet protection of this stone wall that is a little higher
on the Houston side.
Brennan said Quote: ....." it appeared to me he was standing up and
resting against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right
shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim
and fired his last shot."
The Warren Commission said Oswald SAT on a box behind the partly open
window and rested his rifle on a box sitting on the window sill. How
could they possibly produced that THEORY using Howard Brennan's
DESCRIPTION?.... Simple...They lied!
Mr. BELIN. Well, let me ask you. What kind of a gun did you see in that
window?
Mr. BRENNAN. I am not an expert on guns. It was, as I could observe,
some type of a high-powered rifle.
Mr. BELIN. Could you tell whether or not it had any kind of a scope on
it?
Mr. BRENNAN. I did not observe a scope.
Mr. BELIN. Could you tell whether or not it had one? Do you know
whether it did or not, or could you observe that it definitely did or
definitely did not, or don't you know?
Mr. BRENNAN. I do not know if it had a scope or not.
Mr. BELIN. At the time you saw this man on the sixth floor, how much of
the man could you see?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I could see at one time he came to the window and he
sat sideways on the window sill. That was previous to President Kennedy
getting there. And I could see practically his whole body, from his
hips up. But at the time that he was firing the gun, a possibility from
his belt up.
at one time he came to the window and he sat sideways on the window
sill.
""""That was previous to President Kennedy getting there.""""
And I could see practically his whole body, from his hips up. But at
the time that he was firing the gun, a possibility from his belt up.
It should be obvious that Brennan is DESCRIBING a window that is WIDE
OPEN. It would have been IMPOSSIBLE for him to see the gunman STANDING
and aiming the rifle out of the PARTLY OPEN window in the SE corner of
the sixth floor.
Mr. BELIN. How much of the gun do you believe that you saw?
Mr. BRENNAN. I calculate 70 to 85 percent of the gun.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know what direction the gun was pointing.
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And what direction was the gun pointing when you saw it?
Mr. BRENNAN. At somewhat 30 degrees downward and west by south.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know down what street it was pointing?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Down Elm Street toward the railroad underpasses.
Mr. BELIN. Now, up to the time of the shots, did you observe anything
else that you have not told us about here that you can think of right
now?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, not of any importance. I don't remember anything
else except--
Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this. How many shots did you hear?
Mr. BRENNAN. Positively two. I do not recall a second shot--
Mr. BELIN. By a second shot, you mean a middle shot between the time
you heard the first noise and the last noise?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes; that is right. I don't know what made me think that
there was firecrackers throwed out of the Book Store unless I did hear
the second shot, because I positively thought the first shot was a
backfire, and subconsciously must have heard a second shot, but I do
not recall it. I could not swear to it.
Mr. BELIN. Could you describe the man you saw in the window on the
sixth floor?
Mr. BRENNAN. To my best description, a man in his early thirties, fair
complexion, slender but neat, neat slender, possibly 5-foot 10.
Mr. BELIN. About what weight?
Mr. BRENNAN. Oh, at--I calculated, I think, from 160 to 170 pounds.
Mr. BELIN. A white man?
This description does NOT match Oswald
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of clothes he was wearing?
Mr. BRENNAN. Light colored clothes, more of a khaki color.
Oswald was wearing a DARK reddish brown shirt and DARK gray trousers.
What happened when you got down to the Dallas Police Station?
Mr. BRENNAN. Mr. Patterson, if I am correct in the Secret Service that
picked me up, directed me to go to the fourth floor, a certain room on
that floor.
(At this point, Mr. Warren and Representative Ford withdrew from the
hearing room. )
Mr. BRENNAN. I later was introduced to several men-Captain Fritz in Mr.
Sorrels office, and several more men. I do not remember their names.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Before I go any further, do you remember the name
of the officer you talked to in front of the School Book Depository
Building?
Mr. BRENNAN. I don't believe I ever heard it I do not remember his
name.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember how many people were in the lineup?
Mr. BRENNAN. No; I don't. A possibility seven more or less one.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Did you see anyone in the lineup you recognized?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And what did you say?
Mr. BRENNAN. I told Mr. Sorrels and Captain Fritz at that time that
Oswald--or the man in the lineup that I identified looking more like a
closest resemblance to the man in the window than anyone in the lineup.
Mr. BELIN. Were the other people in the lineup, do you remember--were
they all white, or were there some Negroes in there, or what?
Mr. BRENNAN. I do not remember.
Mr. BELIN. As I understand your testimony, then, you said that you told
him that this particular person looked the most like the man you saw on
the sixth floor of the building there.
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. In the meantime, had you seen any pictures of Lee Harvey
Oswald on television or in the newspapers?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, on television.
Mr. BELIN. About when was that, do you believe?
Mr. BRENNAN. I believe I reached home quarter to three or something of
that, 15 minutes either way, and I saw his picture twice on television
before I went down to the police station for the lineup.
Mr. BELIN. Now, is there anything else you told the officers at the
time of the lineup?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I told them I could not make a positive
identification.
Mr. BRENNAN. But I don't recall this window at the time of the shooting
being that low.
Mr. BELIN. Now, by this window you are pointing to the window on the
sixth floor?
Mr. BRENNAN. Right.
Mr. BELIN. On Exhibit 481. I wonder if you would mark that with the
letter "A"--if you would circle that window. And could you put an "A"
on that, if you would.
Now, window A, on Exhibit 481, when you saw it, how high do you believe
it was open?
Mr. BRENNAN. I believe that at the time he was firing, it was open just
like this.
Mr. BELIN. Just like the windows on the fifth floor immediately below?
Mr. BRENNAN. That is right.
Mr. BRENNAN. No; not after I saw the motorcade, I did not observe a man
or rifle in the window.
Mr. BELIN. Did you observe the window at all until after you heard that
first sound which was a backfire or firecracker, at least you thought
it was?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. BELIN. So you did not observe the window and would not know whether
or not there was any man in the window during that period?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. BELIN. In that same interview, you stated that you attended a
lineup at the Dallas Police Department at which you picked Lee Harvey
Oswald as the person most closely resembling the man you observed with
the rifle in the window of the Texas School Book Depository, but you
stated you could not positively identify Oswald as the person you saw
fire the rifle.
Now, is this an accurate recording of the statement you made to the FBI
on or about November 227
Mr. BELIN. One other question, sir.
For the record, would you repeat what I would say would be a full
statement of the reasons which caused you to state in your December
interview to the FBI that you had always been convinced that the man
you saw in the lineup was the man you saw firing the rifle, whereas on
November 22d you declined to give positive identification. Could you
give all of the reasons, please?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, as I previously have said, I had saw the man in the
window and I had saw him on television. He looked much younger on
television than he did from my picture of him in the window--not much
younger, but a few years younger--say 5 years younger.
And then I felt that my family could be in danger, and I, myself, might
be in danger. And since they already had the man for murder, that he
wasn't going to be set free to escape and get out of the country
immediately, and I could very easily sooner than the FBI or the Secret
Service wanted me, my testimony in, I could very easily get in touch
with them, if they didn't get in touch with me, and to see that the man
didn't get loose.
Representative FORD. When you got home, about 3 o'clock, on November
22d, that is when you did get home?
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember the specific color of any shirt that the man
with the rifle was wearing?
Mr. BRENNAN. No, other than light, and a khaki color--maybe in khaki. I
mean other than light color--not a real white shirt, in other words. If
it was a white shirt, it was on the dingy side.
Oswald was wearing a REDDISH BROWN shirt
Mr. BRENNAN. I remembered them at that time as being similar to the
same color of the shirt or a little lighter. And that was another thing
that I called their attention to at the lineup.
Brennan clearly says that the gunmans trousers were a SHADE LIGHTER
than his shirt Oswald was wearing DARK GRAY trousers.
Mr. BELIN. What do you mean by that?
Mr. BRENNAN. That he was not dressed in the same clothes that I saw the
man in the window.
Mr. BELIN. You mean with reference to the trousers or the shirt?
Mr. BRENNAN. Well, not particularly either. In other words, he just
didn't have the same clothes on.
Brennan told them that Oswald was differently than the man he saw
aiming the rifle out of the WIDE OPEN window
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. BRENNAN. I don't know whether you have that in the record or not. I
am sure you do.
Mr. DULLES. Any further questions?
I guess there are no more questions, Mr. Belin.
Mr. BELIN. Well, sir, we. want to thank you for your cooperation with
the Commission.
Mr. DULLES. Thank you very much for coming here.
Walt
tomnln
I always refer people to Official Records.
Until you have read the 26 volumes of evidence/testimony you will never
know which side is Lying to you.
"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1158015566.8...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Ben Holmes
>
>How nice of Van Pain to list his "OPINIONS".
>
>I always refer people to Official Records.
>
>Until you have read the 26 volumes of evidence/testimony you will never
>know which side is Lying to you.
It might be worth considering that Davey-Boy refuses to defend his posts - he
merely makes them.
Tis easy to refute them using the evidence...