One operation or two

John Park

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Oct 10, 2011, 2:27:12 PM10/10/11

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If a patient awaiting aortic valve replacement is found during an
angiogram to have two partially blocked arteries would the bypass and
valve replacement be performed at the same time. The patient is 77 and
relatively fit.
John

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Yes, we typically perform angiograms on patients awaiting aortic valve
replacement in hopes of possibly helping them avoid a 2nd open-heart
operation soon after their 1st.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about the truth:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fc8ddf9938aa594b?

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by changing stoney hearts to
fleshy hearts and giving their minds a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26)
so that they would be born again of water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5),
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that they would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the Truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Derek F

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Oct 10, 2011, 3:34:11 PM10/10/11

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On 10/10/2011 20:15, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> John Park wrote:
>
>> If a patient awaiting aortic valve replacement is found during an
>> angiogram to have two partially blocked arteries would the bypass and
>> valve replacement be performed at the same time. The patient is 77 and
>> relatively fit.
>
> Yes, we typically perform angiograms on patients awaiting aortic valve
> replacement in hopes of possibly helping them avoid a 2nd open-heart
> operation soon after their 1st.
>

Love in the Truth,
>
> Andrew<><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-certified Cardiologist
> and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Thank you. What would normally be the time between procedures. Sounds
like patients must have a year of their life on hold.... better of
course than the alternative.
John

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Derek F wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> John Park wrote:
>>
>>> If a patient awaiting aortic valve replacement is found during an
>>> angiogram to have two partially blocked arteries would the bypass and
>>> valve replacement be performed at the same time. The patient is 77 and
>>> relatively fit.
>>
>> Yes, we typically perform angiograms on patients awaiting aortic valve
>> replacement in hopes of possibly helping them avoid a 2nd open-heart
>> operation soon after their 1st.
>

>Thank you.

Laus Deo :-)

> What would normally be the time between procedures.

The open-heart surgery is typically performed within a week of the
angiogram.

> Sounds
> like patients must have a year of their life on hold.... better of
> course than the alternative.

If the surgery were to be delayed, we typically hold off on doing the
angiogram until the week before the planned aortic valve replacement.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for the
heart:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

... because we care,

John Park

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Sorry, I meant the time between the first and second operations.
John

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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John Park wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Derek F wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> John Park wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If a patient awaiting aortic valve replacement is found during an
> >>>> angiogram to have two partially blocked arteries would the bypass and
> >>>> valve replacement be performed at the same time. The patient is 77 and
> >>>> relatively fit.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we typically perform angiograms on patients awaiting aortic valve
> >>> replacement in hopes of possibly helping them avoid a 2nd open-heart
> >>> operation soon after their 1st.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >
> > Laus Deo :-)
> >
> >> What would normally be the time between procedures.
> >
> > The open-heart surgery is typically performed within a week of the
> > angiogram.
> >
> >> Sounds
> >> like patients must have a year of their life on hold.... better of
> >> course than the alternative.
> >
> > If the surgery were to be delayed, we typically hold off on doing the
> > angiogram until the week before the planned aortic valve replacement.
>

> Sorry, I meant the time between the first and second operations.

There shouldn't be a second operation if a pre-op angiogram is done.
When an angiogram is **not** done, there would then be the possible
post-op discovery of a need for a second open-heart surgery (i.e.
CABG).

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for the

heart...

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

... because we care,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

> John

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6e9fc6f0b2c05733?

Additional thought:

Calcific sclerosis of the aortic valve is a consequence of having VAT
as is coronary atherosclerosis so that we are not surprised when the
angiogram leads to the recommendation that CABG also be done with the
valve replacement.

The absolutely only healthy way to lose the VAT is to http://WDJW.net/Guard
(Proverbs 4:23) the heart by holding to the right amount (32 oz) of
daily food thereby stopping the overeating.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

liaM wrote:

> Hello Dr. Chung,
>
> What do you think of Dr. Ornish's and Dr. Barnard's analysises as to
> changes in lifestyle and diet being capable of reversing arteriosclerosis ?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/30d8a6eb2f4b2661?

When it happens with "lifestyle changes" it happens because a person
has lost their visceral adiposity ( http://WDJW.net/NoVAT ) by eating
the right amount (32 oz ) of daily food irrespective of the diet.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and

other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER

Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

... because we choose to openly care with our heart,

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER

Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))

than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about the truth:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fc8ddf9938aa594b?

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by changing stoney hearts to
fleshy hearts and giving their minds a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26)
so that they would be born again of water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5),
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that they would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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ken

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*

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> Robert Preston wrote:
> > Robert Preston wrote:
> > > Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
> > >
> > > > It it meant for a years supply of food, along with a small glass of
> > > > beer. Do the math doc...
> > >
> > > Jimmy, I did the math on restaurant food and found out that;
> > >
> > > 2 lbs of food can contain up to:
> > > 3800 calories,
> > > 37 grams of saturated fat,
> > > 82 grams of carbohydrates
> > > and 1800 mg of sodium.
> >
> > Make that 2900 mg of sodium @ 32 oz
> >
> > And also add 36 grams of sugar.
> >
> > On the converse side, 32 oz of food can also add up to as little 450
> > calories per day.
>
> That gives a reasonable median of 2125 calories while showing how
> counting calories is meaningless compared to counting ounces.
> Moveover, the price we pay is indexed to the number of ounces of food
> irrespective of the estimated number of calories.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a3ae0fc69aebeac?

liaM wrote:

> Hello Dr. Chung,
>
> What do you think of Dr. Ornish's and Dr. Barnard's analysises as to
> changes in lifestyle and diet being capable of reversing arteriosclerosis ?

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/30d8a6eb2f4b2661?

When it happens with "lifestyle changes" it happens because a person
has lost their visceral adiposity ( http://WDJW.net/NoVAT ) by eating
the right amount (32 oz ) of daily food irrespective of the diet.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and

other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

ken

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On Oct 25, 7:53 am, ken <flakey...@att.net> wrote:
> *

**

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

Malachi

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> The absolutely only healthy way to stop the overeating is to

> the heart by holding to the

> right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

Untrue.

The diet invented by Andrew B. Chung, is only one of many available
dietary options.

Take into consideration though; that there isn't a single bit of
obtainable empirical clinical evidence, to support Andrew B. Chung's
opinion of the diet he invented.

Nor is there a single licensed nutritionist or dietitian who's on on
record having supported Andrew B. Chung's opinion of the diet he
invented.

Nor is there a single theologian, Bible scholar or historian who will
back up Andrew B. Chung's opinion of what an "omer" weighs, or any of
Andrew B. Chung's other opinions as to how the Bible supposedly
applies directly to the diet he invented.

All you really have to go by regarding the diet invented by Andrew B
Chung, is nothing more than Andrew B. Chung's opinions and personal
claims.

Andrew B. Chung will claim that the diet he invented was the result of
a vision form God, however he didn't start making this claim until
about five years after its 1998 inception.

He will also claim it's not a diet, even though he called it a diet
until about five years after its 1998 inception.

> happened in 1997 during the viewing of an IMAX
> Mt.Everest documentary that started playing at the Tennessee
> Aquarium **before** 1996:

Untrue.

The release date for the IMAX documentary "Everest" was, 6 March 1998.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120661/releaseinfo

Andrew B. Chung wrote:

> 2 pound diet
> [I] Dr. Chung invented this approach

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/fd713904...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

In his most recent video, he appears completely emaciated with swollen
belly (ascites), glazed eyes and waist long greasy hair. Andrew B.
Chung appears to be deteriorating into something reminiscent of Howard
Hughes' psychical condition towards the end of his life.

Of his eating disorder Andrew B. Chung says:

> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier

Suggested reading:

NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

> [I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD

It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan: Hunger (noun)

1. The feeling that you have when you need to eat something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

Webster: Hunger:

To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
death... starve"

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> John Park wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > > Derek F wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Malachi

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> The absolutely only healthy way to stop the overeating is to

> the heart by holding to the

> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier

Suggested reading:

NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

> [I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD

It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger:

1. The feeling (sensation) that you have when you need to eat

something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

Webster dictionary: Hunger:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:
>
> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

Delusion.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1b8b70334a1b2ad1?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9640d01d3a577445?

> Macmillan: Hunger (noun)
> ?
> the feeling that you have when you need to eat something

Same delusion.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

If this deluded definition were correct, it means that those of us who
have had hunger ever since using the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach
14 years ago have needed to eat something for that long.

In the interim, we have been eating the right amount (32 oz) of daily
food.

Therefore, the Macmillan definition of hunger is also delusionally
wrong.

What is the correct definition?

Hunger is the desire to eat food combined with the ability to eat
food.

How do we use the word hunger correctly in sentences?

(1) A boy, who has hunger, wants to eat and is able to eat.

(2) Each person feels hunger in their heart differently for each
person's heart is different. Some feel it to be a burning sensation,
others a gnawing sensation, and still others an empty sensation.

(3) Foolishly eating rancid meat stops hunger.

Again, the bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9640d01d3a577445?

Robert Preston

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

> Yes, **life-long** right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm, MU,
> **and** Rod Eastman are doing

LOL considering both Chung and "MU" (Courtney) look like someone in
the final stages of malnutrition, AIDS or terminal cancer. Gaunt.
Swollen belly. Hair loss for "MU". Lack of hygiene (filthy greasy
below waist length hair) for Andrew. Spaced out glazed eyes. Doesn't
look like a long life for either of them. Lone, yes. long, no.

Chris Malcolm and Rod Eastman have clearly demostrited that without
deveoping a pathological disorder,
they are unable to maintain the 2PD diet flop.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c74740?hl=en

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling (sensation) that you have when you need to eat
something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends like Rod Eastman
( http://WDJW.net ) to also pray for Ken simply because we really love
him as our LORD commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the
Father.

Loirbaj wrote:
>
> I noticed that one of the resident Gay Bashing
> crazoid trolls from our Group, Kenneth Kellogg,
> is apparently terrorizing your groups, as well.
> Google: kook files Kenneth Kellogg to see the
> bizarre pix of this very old, very brain damaged
> Net Stalker. And look at his extensive Kook
> files. Why he is not, now, in jail in California
> for Gay Bashing, Hate Speech in violation of
> California Code, I have no idea. One of his
> numerous nyms appears to be HCM. I am a
> poster at the group Alt dot Talk dot Creationism.
> The sadsack old kook Kenneth Kellogg lurks
> the wide web 'identifying FAGGOTS and QUEERS
> as he calls them, then illegally stalking them.

May GOD have mercy on Ken's perishing soul, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth.

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/73b8a32af3d5005e?

Millie wrote:
> Ken (aka "retarded popstar" ) wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> >
> > I'm Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Yeah..
> We know, so why not get some professional help

Ken is beyond professional help in his unbelief.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1fc2ffe92fd945c5?

Ken really wrote earlier in part:

> Imma Insane

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/88e8e69d05552aa0?

Yes you are insane, Ken.

Additional readings:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0893193e0a71cf2b?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9cc5dcc21ab00945?

Ken also wrote earlier in part:
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
> Albert Einstein ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?

Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.

For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.

Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is simply reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Buster

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Rod Eastman

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> The absolutely only healthy way to stop the overeating is to

> the heart by holding to the

> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier

Suggested reading:

NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

> [I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD

It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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an accursed sockpuppet wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Claire wrote:
> >
> > >> With all due love (Ro13:8) and kindness (Ep4:32), can you, Claire,
> > >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
> >
> > >Andrew, I've got no need to get into trying to prove my evangelical
> > >credentials here that is hot air since we can all talk the talk
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > It is written that we are to prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
> >
> > Moreover, it is also written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> Indeed, it is sad that Rod Eastman is completely unable/unwilling to
> *publicly* say "Jesus is Lord" with his mouth on You Tube.

Only the accursed are not able to go to http://WDJW.net to witness Rod
Eastman publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth (Romans 10:9).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c89eefe58adf2068?

an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:
>

> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

Delusion.

Those who suffer from this delusion are most definitely accursed (2
Thessalonians 2:11).

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9640d01d3a577445?

> Macmillan: Hunger (noun)
> ?

> the feeling that you have when you need to eat something

Same delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

MU

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Bottom line regarding Andrew B. Chung:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S0VzMKyeLY

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Claire wrote:
> >
> > >> With all due love (Ro13:8) and kindness (Ep4:32), can you, Claire,
> > >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
> >
> > >Andrew, I've got no need to get into trying to prove my evangelical
> > >credentials here that is hot air since we can all talk the talk
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > It is written that we are to prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
> >
> > Moreover, it is also written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> Indeed, it is sad that Rod Eastman is completely unable/unwilling to
> *publicly* say "Jesus is Lord" with his mouth on You Tube.

Only the accursed are not able to go to http://WDJW.net to witness Rod
Eastman publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth (Romans 10:9).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c89eefe58adf2068?

an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:
>

> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

RJMX

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an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>

>>> > Opinions, which come from the heart (Jeremiah 17:9), are invariably
>>> > wrong.
>>>
>>> And that's why I exhort people to put Andrew B. Chung's claims to the
>>> test,rather than be swayed by emotion or by Andrew B. Chung's nonsense
>>> simply because it's wrapped in the Evangel and Andrew is good a
>>> parroting Evangelistic vernacular.
>>
>> Andrew is a physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) and not an
>> evangelist. Unlike you, Brian, this physician is a gentile disciple
>> ( http://WDJW.net ) of Christ as evident by his being in the Holy
>> Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ).
>>
>>> BTW, here's what Jeremiah 17:9 is about (read the accompanying
>>> commentaries) http://bible.cc/jeremiah/17-9.htm
>>
>> Commentary is opinion. Counsel by the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit )
>> is not opinion. Jeremiah 17:9 and its context is written plainly
>> enough so that there is no reason for even the non-discerning like
>> you, who are without His counsel, to seek out the opinion of others:
>>
>> "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can
>> understand it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)
>>
>> The context is:
>>
>> "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere
>> flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD." (Jeremiah 17:5)
>>
>> Your trust/reliance on Biblical commentaries (i.e. trusting man) does
>> mean you are accursed according to what is written at Jeremiah 17:5.
>>
>> Now, stop sinning or something worse may happen to you (John 5:14)
>> like possibly (Matthew 19:26) having your name blotted from the Lamb's
>> Book of Life if this has not happened already.
>>
>> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can
>> you, Brian, still publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>
> That's just another sockpuppet name, oh discerning one.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4577a84e6590a8df?

Those like you, Brian, who have had their names blotted from the
LORD's Book of Life cannot answer the above yes/no question with a
written affirmative.

Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

Suggested additional reading:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f05f5179a03b5890?

... and ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3d568c9dd585bbd7?

an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3569c49c09c053c3?

... and finally ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

>
> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

Delusion.

Those who suffer from this delusion are most definitely accursed (2
Thessalonians 2:11).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

... and finally ...

> Macmillan: Hunger (noun)
> ?
> the feeling that you have when you need to eat something

Same delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

If this deluded definition were correct, it means that those of us who
have had hunger ever since using the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach
14 years ago have needed to eat something for that long.

In the interim, we have been eating the right amount, which is 32
ounces, of daily food.

Therefore, the Macmillan definition of hunger is also delusionally
wrong.

What is the correct definition?

Hunger is the desire to eat food combined with the ability to eat
food.

How do we use the word hunger correctly in sentences?

(1) A boy, who has hunger, wants to eat and is able to eat.

(2) Each person feels hunger in their heart differently for each
person's heart is different. Some feel it to be a burning sensation,
others a gnawing sensation, and still others an empty sensation.

(3) Foolishly eating rancid meat stops hunger.

The final bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?