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Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:18:38 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 23:14:44 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
>
>> I can't speak for others, but, I'm far from stupid, Arlen.
>
> Hi Diesel (et al.),
Hello Arlen...
> I'm only going to respond to you, Diesel, and not to the drivel
> who may follow in your wake (e.g., Cybe R. Wizard, Dan Purgert,
> Jolly Roger, Tim Streater, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, nospam,
> haemactylus, Char Jackson, Rene Lamontagne, et al.), simply
> because the response to any one of you is the same as the response
> to all.
I know some of the individuals you mentioned from prior
conversations. At no time have I found any of the aforementioned
people to be stupid, though. I don't even consider David Brooks or
the Anoncoward stupid. misguided, certainly, but, stupid, heh, no.
> Having said that, your claim that you're "not stupid" is
> instructive because all of you prove the point I was trying to
> make, which is: o *I used to think people like you on Usenet were
> either incredibly stupid,* o *Or, that you were simply pulling our
> legs by denying basic obvious fact* ...
> o *But now, I realize it's actually worse than that - far worse -
> in fact.* o You're incapable of _comprehending_ that you're
> incapable of comprehending.
You aren't even making logical sense, Arlen...
> This is not meant as an insult; it's meant to underscore why I
> will no longer attempt to deal with the likes of you using cold
> hard facts.
When you're actually able to present some cold hard facts, I'd be
interested in reading them.
> You're not capable of _comprehending_ even the _simplest_ of
> facts. o Simply because you actually _think_ you do comprehend
> them!
>
> Do you understand the conundrum Diesel?
Arlen, you're writing gibberish. I don't process gibberish.
> Given that, my approach to responding to the likes of you was
> tactical: o If you were simply ignorant - I supplied facts to back
> up everything; o When you pulled our leg - I make it "less fun"
> for you.
I'm not ignorant of any of the subjects you've asked about so far,
Arlen. I have viable and working solutions to each problem you've
presented thus far. I've intentionally withheld such information from
you, for a very simple reason. That I've previously stated.
> I was hoping for one of two effects depending on the reason you
> were immune to basic facts...
I'm not immune to facts, basic or otherwise Arlen. I prefer dealing
in facts, myself.
> My tactics are well known and quite obvious:
Yes, you're a rudimentary skill level troll. You actually think that
grade school level insults, ad nausem, will convince one or more of
us to hold your hand so that you can complete one of any number of
projects you've opted to do. Life doesn't work that way, but, for
some silly reason, you think it will online.
> In the case of confronting your bullying tactics, Diesel,
My refusal to just give you the answers along with an idiot proof set
of instructions to map a drive letter to your Androids accessable
internal/external memory doesn't make me a bully. It makes me an
individual who believes I should teach you to fish so that you can
feed yourself, not do the fishing for you. There's a difference, and,
you don't comprehend that.
> As you do now ... where you never add even a single iota of
> on-topic value to the thread conversation.
You asked about a way to move pictures from internal memory to
external memory if the built in camera app wouldn't let you change
the location. I provided what you incorrectly labeled as a 'file
redirector'. It doesn't redirect a damn thing. It waits for the file
to be saved where you selected and then it moves it where you wanted
it. I provided you several options to choose from, and I took the
time to test them on my own equipment. Works as advertised.
After you incorrectly labeled them as file redirectors, I heard
nothing else from you on the subject. You can't even use the proper
terminology to describe what it is you do/don't want, Arlen.
> o For example, remember this "Snit" video?
I'm not Snit.
> In fact, in reference to what you're alluding to, I accidentally
> left out a key step which I repeatedly _challenged_ you on when
> you said you could perform the task - where absolutely _none_ of
> you drivel knew what I was talking about.
The key step was the 3rd party driver which isn't universal that was
necessary. And, it didn't provide you full access to the device,
either. It provided you what amounts to userland access and only
that. I mentioned that sometime ago in a follow up post to your
previous challenge. Either you didn't read it, or, you did and are
lying about that now with your accusation that I didn't know what you
were writing about. I went a step further and told you flat out that
not all linux distros supported it out of the box, because they
didn't include the software, too.
The linux distro you've opted to use isn't the only one in existance
and isn't the most popular, either. Just because you can do something
you think is out of the box on your distro doesn't mean everyone else
can with theirs. And, I told you that then, too.
> Very few people can answer my questions.. Very very few.
> Paul. David Empson. Mike Easter, Marek (bless his soul) ...
> (the list of purposefully helpful intelligent people is rather
> short).
Oh please, you don't think those people know you're trying to kiss
their ass cheeks? You'd love it if they'd just give you complete step
by step instructions for each problem you present.
I mean no offense to anyone from your list, but, I don't even think
they'd all agree with you concerning superior I.T knowledge over my
own. I have a proven track record, that you still seem to know
nothing about, despite supposedly being on usenet for decades. Just
too funny.
> Certainly the likes of you, Diesel, will _never_ be able to.
> o People like you never _intend_ to add to the tribal knowledge
> o People like you _can't_ add to the tribal knowledge.
Tsk Tsk...Once again, you make those statements only because you have
no idea who I am. You've made the grave mistake of dismissing me as
some usenet troll who's out to fuck with you. I'm neither.
>> You were incapable of being a responsible adult and
>> issuing an apology.
>
> Hehhehheh... An apology Diesel?
Yes. For smarting off. Where I come from, smarting off to people you
don't know doesn't make those people do you any favors until you make
things right with them. I realize you're in cali, so perhaps your
line of thinking is a little different there. An absurd issue of
entitlement perhaps? Too many trophies given to you just for
participating, perhaps.
> I have absolutely no problem apologizing when I make factual
> mistakes. None.
Yes, you clearly do. You wrote some childish insults towards me in
another thread, where you were asking how to mount an Androids
internal/external memory as a drive letter so you can do more with
the files present. I responded that I had several ways in which you
could accomplish this, just like you wanted, but, I'd need an apology
for your shitty comments before I'd fork over the information.
I made a very simple, easy, request of you. It wasn't something you
were capable of doing, so, being true to my word, I didn't provide
you specific information on how to do what you wanted to do.
And, as far as I'm aware, you've yet to find someone else to help you
do it, because you sure as hell haven't gotten it figured out on your
own. I haven't seen any posts from you crowing about it, or listing
mind numbing boring toddler step by step details on any of the
methods for doing it. That tells me, months later, you still don't
know how.
> I've been studying people like you for decades because, as you
> know, I worked for decades in the Silicon Valley, with truly
> intelligent people, after having gone to the best schools in this
> country, with trully intelligent people, after having grown up in
> some of the most expensive locations in the country, again,
> populated by truly intelligent people.
BAWAHAHAHAHA. Thanks Arlen, that bullshit was highly entertaining. I
think I hit the nail on the head with my cali comment above. Tell me
something, have you ever lived outside the state of cali? It's a big
world and cali is only a small part of it. Personally, if cali broke
off and sank into the ocean tomorrow, I'd be okay with that. I can't
think of much good that comes from cali...I can think of alot of
bullshit though. Don't even get me started on the scary guns laws you
cali people like to pass...way too much pussification in that state.
> Compared to them, I'm of average intelligence, if even that.
> I've never said otherwise.
I think you give yourself a bit too much credit there, Arlen.
Javascript isn't hard, mapping drive letters to various types of
devices isn't that difficult either. It's childsplay.
If you want me to take you as a serious programmer, show me something
real; some nice asm, c++, something along those lines. I'd even
accept a nice asic source to something that is cool. A fractal
generator, a .wav player, something along those lines; because you
can't call an API and ask windows to do it for you in that language.
[g] Not some lame ass, idiot friendly scripting language intended to
be used by those who have no real coding skills and have no interest
in learning the software and hardware relationship.
> But people like you, Diesel, are so far below those people I just
> mentioned (who actually _are_ intelligent), that it still boggles
> my mind how fantastically incomprehensive people like you are.
h0h0h0. That's your problem, Arlen. You write shit all the time, and
it's pure shit. I've done alot of work for silicon valley people from
the comfort of my home, way the hell away from cali. They recruit me
for these jobs, Arlen. I don't apply to them.
I may not have the most pleasant attitude on usenet towards some
individuals, but, those companies aren't paying me for my attitude or
lack of one. They pay me for the technical expertise I have.
Technical expertise I earned by being in the trenches of the I.T
world since I was still single digit age. many many years before it
was 'cool' to know anything about computers. Many years before
Windows, too.
> You're immune to facts.
My entire world deals with facts, for the most part. Electrical
theory aside (it's mostly fact, with a few exceptions to the rule).
> People like you, Diesel, and people like you abound, are incapable
> of comprehending even the _simplest_ of the simplest of the
> simplest of facts.
You're writing shit, again. Pure shit.
>> Due to that, and only that, I opted not to
>> provide you any specific details concerning sharing your Android
>> device internal/external memory over your network via a drive
>> letter mount.
>
> Hehhehheh ... Hi Diesel,
>
> First off, I will be blunt ... you _never_ knew _anything_
> whatsoever.
That's funny, because right now, I'm copying a document from my
external android memory to one of my linux machines across the
network. The linux machine actually sees it as a network drive share.
[g] And, the Windows XP (XP no less Arlen) machine sees the Android
device as two drive letters; one for internal one for external. And,
the XP machine isn't playing host to the device, another linux box
is. I could have set the Windows box up as the host though, very
little configuration difference between the two.
How are you coming along with it, since you asked how to do it months
ago? Got even one version of it working, yet?
Btw, yes, all of the computers on this network have full read/write
access to the Android mapped shares. It would be pointless for them
not to.
> I need to say that clearly - not for you - as you won't believe
> it. But for the others to comprehend that you know absolutely
> nothing.
That's another problem you have, Arlen. Various people you've
mentioned, including the likes of Mike Easter do infact know me, and
they also know I'm not full of shit. Mike knows alot about me,
actually. Even including some.. not so nice things I'm responsible
for. I think you'll be very hard pressed to find him agreeing with
you concerning my so called stupidity concerning I.T. Why don't you
ask him? :)
> Having said that, you proved time and again that you couldn't even
> tell us the single *critical* step I had missed in outlining the
> tutorial for how to access the _entire_ device system contents.
You didn't access the entire device contents at any time. You were
only able to access userland. No magical driver is going to be able
to override that for you. It's not upto the driver, it's upto the
device. Short of rooting an Android device, you are not going to have
full access to it. And you damn sure aren't given free reign on Apple
products either. Not by a long shot. And incidently, rooting an
Android device doesn't give you god like powers over it entirely
either. You still don't have full, unrestricted access to do whatever
the hell you want. Some of the firmware contents still remains
outside your reach.
> Every single one of the people on the affected newsgroup didn't
> know. Not Paul. Not Mike Easter. Not you. Not Nospam. Not Rene.
> Not Char. o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files
> back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native
> devices (no proprietary software needed)
> <
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/K0NZ0nb1pWw/OBp
> oi3i8CAAJ>
Actually, my first comment on that was why you thought you discovered
something new. I also asked why you called it 'sliding'; when
copy/paste or cut/paste is already well established and requires no
additional explanation. I also went onto describe situations where
your solution doesn't work as advertised on ALL windows and linux
platforms, as you originally claimed.
When you learned that XP won't mount newer Android devices on it's
own without help, and various distros of Linux (Mint 17.3 for
example) won't either, you attempted to move the goalposts and rule
XP out (even though it IS a version of Windows and you previously
claimed your method worked on ALL flavors as you wrote it) and you
then opted to specify the particular distro of linux that you use,
only because you learned from me (haha, I was the first to mention
either of those two things) that various other linux distros may/may
not support what you want to do depending on android device and
version, without additional software that isn't included with the
distro.
I went a step further though, I even used one of my own android
devices that runs an older copy of Android; you dismissed it as a
result with another goalpost move. At the end of the day though, it
became quite clear that your so called universal method of exchanging
files via usb for windows, linux, Android isn't as universal as you
once assumed; because you haven't got the hands on real world
experience with various systems, including various Android devices
that don't always play nicely with each other, even if you think they
should.
> HINT: To this very day, 99.9% of you _still_ don't know how to do
> it. (Even though I explained it all in gory detail - including the
> key trick.)
You didn't explain anything of the sort. Several of us commented
about additional software your distro of linux has, that various
other distros do not always come with.
> But _you_, Diesel, you said it was trivial and that it was
> something you knew for a long time - which is ok - that's fine -
> but you only _beleived_ you knew ... when you proved - beyond a
> shadow of a doubt that you didn't.
I did say it was trivial (as did several others) and I have known how
to do it for a very long time. So long infact, I forgot it was worth
mentioning in a long post on usenet. I figured everybody knew how to
use usb to copy/move files between various devices they owned...
> I didn't know either - until I found it out about a year or two
> ago.
ROFL. I've been moving data back and forth between Windows, Linux,
Android, and the god awful (I'm not an apple fan) macOS for years
Arlen. It's not new to me, and not something I recently learned how
to do.
> The funny thing is that you "claimed" to know - but you didn't,
Indeed, I did. I also offered to provide you full details using
several different methods on mapping a drive letter to your Android
device. I requested one thing from you in return. An apology for some
assinine comments you previously wrote. You weren't emotionally
mature enough to issue an apology, so, I elected not to provide you
with help on that project. A project you've still managed to fail to
accomplish, I'll remind you.
> You don't even _realize_ that I _always_ could "mount" any Android
> file system onto Windows as a "drive letter" (using a variety of
> WiFi and USB methods).
Your previous posts don't support that conclusion. Infact, they show
that you weren't able to do this and tried various means in order to
accomplish it. The only thing you actually did (that I found funny as
all hell) was teach pooh that net supported webdav and has for
decades now. [g]
I don't know if you did that because pooh suggested utilities that
wouldn't on a cold snowy day in hell give you a mounted drive letter,
but you sure gave them a shot. :)
You have not been succesful mounting a drive letter to your android
device for read/write access. Let's not split hairs, that's what you
wanted to do, that's what you spent a considerable amount of time
trying to do, that's what you've continued to FAIL AT DOING.
Where as I, and several others (Carlos being another) have succeeded
in doing this, and are able to take advantage of the fruits of our
labor. We have drive letter mounts to our Android device. You do not.
> Often, people like Paul or Mike Easter will suggest valuable
> improvements. In this case, I don't think they did - so I learned
> nothing - but you _should_ have learned how to do what I've been
> doing for years.
I've been a certified (really) technician for nearly twenty (that's
just one cert, I've got several actually) years now. What you've
asked of the groups several times now is all childs play to me and
many of my peers. It's old news to us, been done and done to death.
We don't think anything of it.
> And yet, out of, oh, say 25 distinct posters, only TWO (Frank & I)
> understood the problem set (where Mike Easter & Paul understood
> the Windows/Linux side also).
I realize you have a problem with giving credit where it's due if you
have a personal issue with someone, but, it was ME, not them who
first clued you in about Windows and linux not being as universal to
your so called, method as you originally thought.
> Do you see I'm swimming in a sea of fools, Diesel?
You're swimming alone, actually.
> BTW, as an aside, I'm only explaining the truth - which is that
> few people _cared_ to comprehend the problem set - or - they
> didn't have to deal with both Android & iOS along with Windows &
> Linux (which is fine).
I have to deal with various operating systems on a daily basis, along
with a slew of internet of thing devices that people just can't seem
to not waste their damn money on. I have to make sure all those
stupid things people buy will talk to devices that are already in
service on various networks I'm responsible for.
You just screw off as a hobbyist, you aren't responsible for
supporting much more than your own personal gear and perhaps that of
a few neighbors who come to you for assistance. My workload on a good
day isn't anywhere near as small.
> But my point is that Frank & I advanced our overall tribal
> knowledge.
Frank gained nothing of value from the conversation. I was there too,
Arlen. You and you alone gained information from the rest of us, but,
did not credit all those who provided it.
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