Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1 Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and alt.revisionism)
Herr Doktor Tavische
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~~Mounting Evidence Patrick's Wife Devours Donuts Voraciously~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
Excerpt:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Crip)
Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
(Picture of Patrick with walking stick archived locally as: Chief_Crip)
Posting Name: Patrick Humphrey Type: Type-1
Real Name: Patrick Humphrey Dx Date: Nov. 1, 1969
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 49
Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier. (The
pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after their Calder
Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)
--PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989
<end>
Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type 1
Diabetes:
http://209.47.161.101/about/services/psych2.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Psychotic_1)
Psychological Morbidity in Type 1 Diabetes:
How big is the problem?
Report on Phase 1 : Screening for Psychological Morbidity
Clare Shaban and David Cavan
Bournemouth Diabetes and Endocrine Centre
January 2001
Abstract from the Research Proposal
Several studies have shown that psychological morbidity is increased in patients
with Type 1 diabetes; this may have an adverse effect on diabetic control and
long-term outcome. It is well recognised that many patients attending specialist
centres have poor diabetic control and it has been shown in a small study that
psychological intervention can lead to improved HbA1c in such patients. This
project will determine the prevalence of psychological problems in patients with
Type 1 diabetes by screening those attending a district diabetes department.
Those with evidence of psychological morbidity will receive appropriate
psychological intervention from a clinical psychologist...
Phase 1: Screening for Psychological Morbidity in 100 patients..
The following questionnaires were chosen to provide a broad assessment of
psychological problems that affect people with Type 1 diabetes (i.e. anxiety,
depression, poor self-worth, interpersonal problems and eating distress)...
<end>
http://www.diabetesforum.net/cgi-bin/display_engine.pl?category_id=6
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Psychotic_2)
PSYCHOSOCIAL ASPECTS OF TYPE 1 DIABETES MELLITUS
[...]
Sufficiently, severe hypoglycemia can produce severe brain damage at any age.
[...]
Cognitive Dysfunction and Poor Metabolic Control in Adult in with Type 1
Diabetes
Hyperglycemia rather than hypoglycemia may be a more potent risk factor. Tasks
requiring psychomotor speed and /or spatial information processing are most
likely to be disrupted but other cognitive functions including attention,
learning and memory are often affected in the poorly controlled adult. The
mechanism for this is poorly understood. It may be a mechanism which affects the
neuronal metabolism of the brain. Affecting the Na+/K+ ATP activity and polyol
metabolism. This is supported by the demonstration that adults with diabetes of
long duration show slower brain transmission times during electrophysiological
recordings of brain stem auditory evoked potentials.
<end>
http://www.mental-health-matters.com/articles/article.php?artID=324
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Psychotic_3)
Depression and Diabetes
By National Institute of Mental Health,
Working toward better understanding and treatment of Mental Illness
Government Organization
United States
National Institute of Mental Health
This article was provided by the National Institute of Mental Health
Depression can strike anyone, but people with diabetes, a serious disorder that
afflicts an estimated 16 million Americans, may be at greater risk. In addition,
individuals with depression may be at greater risk for developing diabetes.
Treatment for depression helps people manage symptoms of both diseases, thus
improving the quality of their lives.
Several studies suggest that diabetes doubles the risk of depression compared to
those without the disorder. The chances of becoming depressed increase as
diabetes complications worsen. Research shows that depression leads to poorer
physical and mental functioning, so a person is less likely to follow a required
diet or medication plan. Treating depression with psychotherapy, medication, or
a combination of these treatments can improve a patient's well-being and ability
to manage diabetes.
Despite the enormous advances in brain research in the past 20 years, depression
often goes undiagnosed and untreated. People with diabetes, their families and
friends, and even their physicians may not distinguish the symptoms of
depression. However, skilled health professionals will recognize these symptoms
and inquire about their duration and severity, diagnose the disorder, and
suggest appropriate treatment.
Depression Facts
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed,
including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight changes
Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
If five or more of these symptoms are present every day for at least two weeks
and interfere with routine daily activities such as work, self-care, and
childcare or social life, seek an evaluation for depression...
Depression results from abnormal functioning of the brain... Other mental
disorders, such as bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness) and anxiety
disorders, may occur in people with diabetes, and they too can be effectively
treated. For more information about these and other mental illnesses, contact
NIMH...
<end>
I wonder if Patrick is taking his meds?!
Patrick's "Peeping Tom" episodes have even been diagnosed as psychological
disorders:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's "Window Peeking" behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
Keywords from the above: ""Peeping Tom", diabetes, mental disorder"
If Patrick would take his meds and seek psychological counseling then perhaps he
will stop stalking and harassing people in alt.revisionism and
alt.religion.scientology. We can only hope so!
Patrick Lee Humphrey's stalking and harassing Scientologists is well known and
documented:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/30d3d0065a26f334?fwc=1
Message-ID: <on2s121b980u2ne0n...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 01:48:19 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/7eb85da1a0c20566?fwc=1
From: auto...@yahoo.com
Subject: I was hacked!
Date: 25 Jan 2006 09:16:34 -0800
Message-ID: <1138209394....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"Patrick Humphrey ("The Chief Instigator") Is a HATEFUL PERSON and was
fired from the Rice University. He is a peeping Tom, sick puppy, a
glaring hypocrite, a p$ych troll, stalker and blasphemer. He posts lies
and defamation about Scientology on a regular basis." <end>
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/448e37567f3ee437?fwc=1
From: "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com>
Subject: Google Patrick Humphrey and read that he is a stalker.
Date: 16 Jul 2005 10:02:07 -0700
Message-ID: <1121533327....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
References: <szkpstj...@eris.io.com>
"Google Patrick Humphrey and find that he is a stalker. He needs
directions from law enforcement. I read that he preys on people and
peeks in their homes. That is really creepy. -Barbara Schwarz"
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/213c28d9f6c583d0?fwc=1
From: fax...@hotmail.com (Faxhor)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.revisionism,houston.general
Subject: Re: FAXHOR makes really interesting research
Date: 27 Sep 2004 20:59:41 -0700
Message-ID: <c901bee5.04092...@posting.google.com>
'"So what are YOU going to do about it" - Patrick Lee Humphrey the Stalker
According to a law enforcement agent, Patrick is a stalker and harasser.
Apparently those activities cost him his job at Rice University."
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/dc0a0f877ae1d691?fwc=1
From: "ZORRO" <ku...@dotplanet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.current-events.net-abuse,alt.religion.scientology,
alt.society.liberalism,alt.usenet.kooks,houston.eats,news.admin.censorship,soc.singles
Subject: PATRICK L. HUMPHREY
Message-ID: <a4QB4.850$4a.3...@pm01news.wcom.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:29:10 GMT
Patrick, you never contribute to the debate. All you present is braggadocio,
insults, and accusations.
Please tell us why you feel so threatened when others exercise their right
to free speech?
During the Revolution, in which the United States won it's independence from
Brittain, Anonymity was crucial to promoting the exchange of ideas. The
principles of government, on which this nation was founded, were presented
in a brilliant discourse entitled "The Federalist Papers". Newspapers of the
time printed editorials without disclosing the identity of the author. This
was necessary to protect them from police action by the Tories.
Anonymous writings, publication with pen names, is still legal in the United
States. It is crucial to preserving our right to free speech which is the
first protection of all our other rights and freedoms.
We allow you the freedom to disagree. You are free to write why you believe
free speech should be abolish. However; You are not free to use the tactics
you have been using.
There is a tort called "Public disclosure of private facts". You and Logan
Villa have utilized this in your attempts to stifle my exercise of my free
speech. You persist in disclosing my name and my employment without my
permission to do so. My posts have always associated me with INFORMED
CITIZENS. Which is a distinct and separate entity from my employer. I have
never disclosed my employment in any of my posts.
<<Tavish comment March 20, 2006: Patrick also likes posting people's landlord's
names and also where the person he is stalking lives!!>>
Please tell us why you feel so threatened when others exercise their right
to free speech. It is obvious this is the reason you harass and
continually post nothing but insulting names in response to anyone posts
outside your small little circle of approved friends. Friends who used the
same tactics as you.
It is sad but true that you and logan villa have been very effective in
utilizing these tactics to kill participation in this newsgroup by all but a
few. It is obvious to me this is your objective...
So tell us; Why do you feel so threatened when others exercise their right
to free speech?
<end>
"Actually, Osprey, a sure-fire way to get Patrick to run is to ask him
why he has an obsession with tracerouting people's NNTP posting-host
numbers and then posting what town the traceroute spit back to him. I
know he does it to try and intimidate the newbs by giving them the
impression that he's going to show up at their houses and murder them
in their sleep...he thinks that's just hilarous.
(Watch, he'll deny the above, and I'll ask him the real reason he does
it...POOF! He's gone like a fart in the wind.)" <end>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.abortion.inequity/msg/c00f402faadcbd85?fwc=1
http://groups.google.com/group/houston.general/msg/516320b4b89e0633?fwc=1
From: "Cass" <NOT_ROADWARRIOR_S...@galaxycorp.com>
Subject: Re: TIG WANTED
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:54:57 -0500
Message-ID: <bhurcg$u5g$0...@pita.alt.net>
Humphrey:
You are not only a stalker but a liar, too. I didn't cross-post. However,
you aren't authorized to tell me where my posts are appropriate.
You try to be a net-nanny and net-cop yet you cannot even control your own
stalking.
You and I both know of the newsgroups that you stalk me. However, google
has the records for you or anyone else who is curious enough to find out
about your stalking.
Humphrey: you talk of paranoia and then you say that no one is going to
intimidate you into being silent! Kid, do you know what you are saying?
There is something seriously wrong with your thought-processes. I, of all
people, would never try to silence someone. I am a crusader about folks
being able to speak as they see fit; within the law, of course.
If you want to see where you have lied about you not being fired, try
google. You will be able to see your denials in many posts in many threads.
Humphrey, you are in error in so many things that you post and think, that
there has to be some pathology there.
I simply make a post about something that I am looking for and your
sphincter and mental disorders are triggered and you begin foaming.
Get some help of some sort.
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http://groups.google.com/group/houston.general/msg/d3473bca9149f24f?fwc=1
From: "Cass" <NOT_ROADWARRIOR_S...@galaxycorp.com>
Subject: Re: TIG WANTED
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:52:05 -0500
Message-ID: <bhtrij$4k7$0...@pita.alt.net>
Humphrey:
Those are the facts, kiddo.
Sure, you have the right to respond and call names and ridicule, etc. When you
do these things and follow me and many others around to various newsgroups that
they frequent and you don't, and then start your name-calling, ridicule and
other childish behavior, you get the reputation of being a stalker.
Your employer/s and many of your victims know of your weird behavior and so do
the authorities. You got fired from at least one job for your behavior. When
this became public, you denied it most vociferously. Then, as it became
apparent that you were caught, you finally admitted that you were fired.
So, the bottom line, Humphrey, is that I really don't care about you or your
mental disorders. I will just continue to post for things that I am looking
to buy for my hobbies and when you tune up with your mental issues, I will
simply continue to bring out the facts.
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It's amazing how many other people view Patrick Lee Humphrey as a stalker with
mental disorders!
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Info UPDATED LINKS S_0202
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
(EXCERPTED)
WHAT IS STALKING?
STALKING - pattern of words or conduct that is intended to cause and does cause
the targeted person to fear death, assault, bodily injury, or CSC upon the
person or member of the person's family.
HARASSMENT - pattern of intentional substantial and unreasonable intrusion
which causes the targeted person to suffer mental distress. A suspect must be
provided notice that contact is unwanted.
PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BEHAVIORAL PROFILE OF STALKERS
Simple Obsession Stalkers:
Simple obsession stalkers represent 70 to 80% of all stalking cases.
Characteristics include:
1 personality disorders.
2 emotional immaturity, jealousy and extreme insecurity.
3 inability to succeed in relationships by socially-accepted means.
4 dominating and intimidating victims in order to bolster own self-esteem.
5 biggest fear is losing the victim.
6 believing their lives have no worth without the victim.
7 turning to violence in order to control every aspect of the victim's life
STALKING BEHAVIOR PATTERNS AND CYCLES
1 Attempts at intimidation often begin in the form of an unjustified, jealous
and inappropriate intrusion into the victim's life.
2 Contacts become more numerous and intrusive over time, until such conduct
becomes a persistent pattern of harassment.
TYPES OF STALKING BEHAVIOR
1 visiting or following the victim
2 harassing telephone calls, which includes obscene calls and hang-ups
3 sending threatening mail, which is a federal felony
4 trespassing
5 vandalism
WHAT IS STALKING BEHAVIOR?
Stalking has been referred to as a "building block crime" because it usually
starts with small incidents that can get more and more serious. These incidents
can include such behaviors as:
1) following
2) watching
3) spying
4) tracking someone
==END==================================================================
Patrick Lee Humphrey: Facts about His TERMINATION From Rice University:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/58bf60a708d42cc3?fwc=1
Message-ID: <jjrv10h69n06h1h60...@4ax.com>
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someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
in message <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>:
><<<FAIR USE INTENDED))>>>
But once again, not achieved.
Now, about your threats to make my personal details public -- how do
you justify this, given your constant whining about even so much as
the town you live in being posted?
Joe Bruno
You whine when anyone tells where you live, and now, you're exposing
personal medical information on Patrick?
I guess, then, it's OK to tell everybody that you live at 13 N
Mechanic Street in Belleville, Texas.
Your medical problems:
(1)you're a human who weighs as much as a whale
(2) you're a psychotic liar.
(3)You suffer from acute abysmal stupidity
The Chief Instigator
[Sorry, I don't need a two-ton mentally ill stalker in Bellville.]
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 23 at Omaha, 7:05
The Chief Instigator
>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
[...]
>> Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier.
>> (The pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after
>> their Calder Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)
>>
>> --PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989
>> <end>
>> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type 1
>> Diabetes:
> You whine when anyone tells where you live, and now, you're exposing
>personal medical information on Patrick?
Of course...the Bloat of Bellville's not required to do as HE says.
>I guess, then, it's OK to tell everybody that you live at [you know where] in
>Belleville, Texas.
>Your medical problems:
>(1)you're a human who weighs as much as a whale
>(2) you're a psychotic liar.
>(3)You suffer from acute abysmal stupidity
...and he flipped out because we were heading in his direction twice on
Sunday. I guess he's too stupid to figure out if we go from Houston to San
Antonio and back, we have to be headed in his direction at some time.
Fatbury's definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, if only because he's
bigger than the shed...
Herr Doktor Tavische
<1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
<br...@indystart.com> wrote:
>> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type 1
>> Diabetes:
>
> You whine when anyone tells where you live,
Because 1st) it's irrelevant, 2nd) where I live was discovered with a forged
subpoena issued on my ISP by an unethical shyster, and 3rd) losers like you only
post where I live in an attempt to intimidate me into silence which has filed so
far!!!
>and now, you're exposing personal medical information on Patrick?
PUBLIC information which Patrick Lee Humphrey made public himself as in:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Crip)
Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
(Picture of Patrick with walking stick archived locally as: Chief_Crip)
Posting Name: Patrick Humphrey Type: Type-1
Real Name: Patrick Humphrey Dx Date: Nov. 1, 1969
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 49
Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier. (The
pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after their Calder
Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)
--PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989
<end>
OR
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=20&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=diabetes&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pat...@io.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 88 for "diabetes" author:pat...@io.com
>I guess, then, it's OK to tell everybody that you live at <stalker info deleted which was obtained illegally>
Seeing how where I live keeps being brought up I will post where the unethical
and Publicly Censured and now INACTIVE former attorney lives who made the info
public in the first place:
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I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along
with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having
magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. I am also being
stalked by psychotics such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. FOR A FACT it was Yale F.
Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info from my
ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice under the
Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because
of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:
Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
other, so he is to be injured.
YALE F. EDEIKEN
885 COLD SPRING ROAD; APARTMENT 2
ALLENTOWN, PA 18103
610-435-9820
<Source: Pennsylvania State Attorney Registration>
If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out then he
should encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my privacy!
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Special Note: The shyster named above issued a forged subpoena on my ISP to get
my address and telephone number and then he criminally made it available to
thugs such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. Proof that such an act was done to me may be
read here: Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?.. Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
IOW Patrick and others are accomplices to another criminal!
>Your medical problems:
>
>(1)you're a human who weighs as much as a whale
>(2) you're a psychotic liar.
>(3)You suffer from acute abysmal stupidity
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
BTW turn about is fair play:
Arthur J. Tandy aka Joebruno, Bruno, Black Knight, Sailor57
1737 Hollister St #14
San Diego, CA 92154
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>...and he flipped out because we were heading in his direction twice on
>Sunday. I guess he's too stupid to figure out if we go from Houston to San
>Antonio and back, we have to be headed in his direction at some time.
>Fatbury's definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, if only because he's
>bigger than the shed...
You're acting like you mis-dosed your insulin again Patrick!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
http://www.mental-health-matters.com/articles/article.php?artID=324
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Psychotic_3)
<EXCERPT>
Depression and Diabetes
By National Institute of Mental Health,
Working toward better understanding and treatment of Mental Illness
Government Organization
United States
National Institute of Mental Health
This article was provided by the National Institute of Mental Health
Depression can strike anyone, but people with diabetes, a serious disorder that
afflicts an estimated 16 million Americans, may be at greater risk...
Research shows that depression leads to poorer physical and mental functioning,
so a person is less likely to follow a required diet or medication plan.
Treating depression with psychotherapy, medication, or a combination of these
treatments can improve a patient's well-being...
Depression Facts
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed,
including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight changes
Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
If five or more of these symptoms are present every day for at least two weeks
and interfere with routine daily activities such as work, self-care, and
childcare or social life, seek an evaluation for depression...
Depression results from abnormal functioning of the brain... Other mental
disorders, such as bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness) and anxiety
disorders, may occur in people with diabetes, and they too can be effectively
treated. For more information about these and other mental illnesses, contact
NIMH...
<end>
BTW Patrick-- why are you spending so much time in alt.support.depression?
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=20&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.support.depression+&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pat...@io.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 376 for group:alt.support.depression
author:pat...@io.com (Archived locally as: PLH_Depression)
This return from the above tells it all and shows how even other people see you
for what you are Patrick.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/msg/4e384a58ff3cb947?fwc=1
Sender: pat...@eris.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Subject: Re: IF YOU CARVE YOUR PUMPKIN WITH A CHAINSAW
Date: 11 Oct 2005 00:53:05 -0500
Message-ID: <szky850...@eris.io.com>
((Maybe your depression is caused by your conscience trying to tell you that
your supporting infanticide and flaming "pro-lifers" is bad and you don't
recognize that your Nazi like personality toward the unborn is truly evil!))
You take out your frustrations and failures on other people Patrick and that is
not good. You need to take your meds, leave usenet, get a life, and perhaps your
psychotic sociopathic rude behavior will diminish.
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aero貞.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
Why does Patrick know so much about my residence but denies stalking me!!?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
----Patrick Lee Humphrey = Documented Self Confessed Peeping Tom----
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
Notice that one Peeping Tom "was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder" not that diabetes produces Peeping Toms.
Tavish
Sara Salzman
Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
wrote:
[a whole lot of crap about diabetes and Patrick Humphrey deleted]
You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
by medication.
Your psychoses obviously are completely immune from any sort of
treatment.
Sara
--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Sara Salzman
Belleville.
Belleville.
Belleville.
Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
No one gives a crap.
Sara
Herr Doktor Tavische
<1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
<br...@indystart.com> wrote:
Where Ilive was NOT public information but was ibtined and distributed illegaly
by Shyster Edeiken on the other hand Sara Salzman has made her whereabouts well
known as in:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/12/Denver061203.html
(Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_1)
"Sara Salzman, an Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in
Internet chat rooms and who sits on the board of the Holocaust History Project."
-------------------------
The above is quoted from:
http://www.westword.com/issues/2003-12-04/news/offlimits_print.html
(Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_2)
'"...The mere thought of his upcoming visit raises the ire of Sara Salzman, an
Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in Internet chat rooms
and who sits on the board of the Holocaust History Project."'
Sara Salzman is allegedly THHP's official spokesperson as well as evidenced
here:
http://www.holocaust-history.org/arson
(Archived locally as: Holocaust History Project Won't Be Silenced)
Excerpt:
Media Contact:
Sara Salzman
303-617-9412
me...@holocaust-history.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Trial By Fire: Holocaust History Project Won't Be Silenced
In the early hours of March 6, 2006, a fire broke out at a warehouse complex
near San Antonio International Airport, causing extensive damage to the offices
of The Holocaust History Project (THHP), an organization that has been, for the
last ten years, in the forefront of confronting Holocaust denial online, in
addition to providing educational materials to students throughout the world.
Arson investigators now have confirmed that the fire was intentionally set and
are continuing their investigation...
Harry Mazal, the Director of THHP said, "We have been able to defend our work
against these cyber attackers. They tried, but couldn't shut us down. We have
strong indications that this arson is the next step in a series of attacks
against our educational and scholarly work. Although the fire caused significant
damage to our offices, there is no way we will be silenced. Our web site has not
been affected, and our work will continue." ...
Media questions should be addressed to:
Sara Salzman, 303-617-9412, me...@holocaust-history.org
<end>
That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too! The full details are
at this link:
http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15172271:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=CO&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
Or use this link if the above link gets mangled: http://tinyurl.com/p69np
<end>
Here is an archive of Sara Salzman's opinions on Public Information:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0404eb695fbb8011?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman on Posting Where People Live - Her Double Standards Strike
Again! Message-ID: <i81i0218nq7fpoufl...@4ax.com>
Date: 4 Mar 2006 03:08:53 GMT
Excerpts: "There's no crime in posting someone's publicly-available personal
information... Wrong again, anti-Lawyer.It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC
INFORMATION... public domain *is* just what it says..."
>you're exposing personal medical information on Patrick?
It is not persona information-- I posted what Patrick Lee Humphrey himself made
public and gave the link for verification!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
>I guess, then, it's OK to tell everybody that you live at <stalker info deleted>
Where I live is and has always been irrelevant.
>Your medical problems:
>
>(1)you're a human who weighs as much as a whale
>(2) you're a psychotic liar.
>(3)You suffer from acute abysmal stupidity
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
Tavish
~~Arthur J. Tandy = Typical Thug Yid Like His Other Yids - VIOLENT~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a0e9d5359f14d283?fwvc=1
(Archived locally as: TandyIsViolentYid)
From: kni...@indystart.com (Arthur J. Tandy aka Black Knight aka Sailor57)
Subject: Re: Arthur J. Tandy aka Black Knight Wants to Engage in Homosexual Sex
Date: 14 Mar 2003 18:24:06 -0800
Message-ID: <594c8e48.03031...@posting.google.com>
References: <p1m47v0n03p0g0pgd...@4ax.com>
Tavish <t--avi-s-h4...@RemoveHyphens2MAILix.n-etc-om.com> wrote in message
news:<p1m47v0n03p0g0pgd...@4ax.com>...
> On 4 Mar 2003 21:28:08 -0800, <594c8e48.0303042128.4ffa7...@posting.google.com>
> kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
What I really want to engage in is beating your fat belly to a pulp.
Who ever bumps you off should get a medal, scum.
~~End of EXACT GOOGLE Archive~~
Art's fellow violent yids:
--------------------------
Yid Barton:
"Shut the fuck up, you sick NAZI bastard, before I shut it up for you!"
From: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <mnlue.132$_m1...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_1)
"Personally, I think I 4x2 upside his brainless head would be better!"
From: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <gHMue.1110$qm....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_2)
"Well, let me threaten you again! FUCK OFF YOU NAZI AMERICAN CUNT -- BEFORE I
FIND YOU AND SHOVE MY FIST DOWN YOUR FILTHY DISGUSTING JEW-HATING NAZI GOB!"
From: "ריעין ברתון‎/Riain Barton" <ri...@zion.org.il>
Message-ID: <UDKue.751$gr...@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
(Archived locally as: RianinViolence_3)
----------------------------------------
Yid Edeiken:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bcfa52fae1b480f2?fwc=1
Subject: MUST READ! Yale F. Edeiken Inciting Violence Against Me In USENET
Posts He Signed!! (From My Archives) V1.0
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:33:13 -0600
Message-ID: <3bhpt1pq1of1mbst7...@4ax.com>
--------------------------------------------------------
Yid Convert Andrew E. Mathis:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a66f7fadafc5116b?dmode=source
(Archived locally as: AEM_Mouth_11)
Brief excerpt: "Joe, do I need to explain this to you also? I invited Scott
Bradbury to meet me in a bar so that I could get him to say to my face what he
was saying to me in Usenet. There was nothing sexual in my intent. My intent was
to beat the fuck out of him if/when he opened his filthy mouth..."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YIDS TODAY!?" - Satirized quote from the soundtrack to
the movie "Bye Bye Birdie"
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Belleville.
> >
> > Belleville.
> >
> > Belleville.
> >
> > Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
> >
> > No one gives a crap.
> >
> > Sara
> >
>
> Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your own
> words against you. When it comes to exposing you people - He quotes from
> Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the messanger.
>
> When he post stuff, calling you people the beast of revelation - why not
> debate him?
>
> Ya see, Sara. You people are the Synagogue of Satan. I know it, he knows it,
> and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
You're not just a baby, you're a delusional baby.
Why would you have any respect for someone who says things like:
Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
Care to show what I deleted you fat stupid lying piece of pig fat?
Message-ID: <8pasi0leri5cio525...@4ax.com>
Libel is grounds if Leon is telling his bitch pig daughter such vile
stuff and then having it made public!
Message-ID: <0ciktv8tgf9mkah5a...@4ax.com>
Why don't you accept my challenge you pernicious little shit?
Message-ID: <s012uvg6v38c9ont7...@4ax.com>
Why don't you kill yourself BUT take out two more of your fellow shits
before you do!
Message-ID: <uara10h2b539epgj0...@4ax.com>
Now go have sex with her Urinal!
Message-ID: <opeeb0tm5hqat8b46...@4ax.com>
It is your kind who are the laughoing staocks and that is why all of you
are so bitter!
Message-ID: <s8ft10hi1l547f0fo...@4ax.com>
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF PULP MAN!!
Message-ID: <rpul00tk1ajl83bjl...@4ax.com>
Now who is the lair?
Message-ID: <tso010h6vh9nq6vlf...@4ax.com>
Whois the imbecile now you pea brain!?
Message-ID: <imef10h5ki6tt4gdj...@4ax.com>
I AM STARTING TO CROSS POST MY REPLIES TO OTHER NEWS GROUPS TO GREATLY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET YOUR TRAVELING COMPANION AND OTHER ACCOMPLICES TO
STOP!! I HAVE A BIG LIST OF NEO-NAZI GROUPS I HAVE SEARCHED FOR THAT I
WILL BE GLAD TO CROSS POST TO!
Message-ID: <hd50201eiqr68doif...@4ax.com>
I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE SHIT!!
Message-ID: <djn7201t7f8vtcoe9...@4ax.com>
GET THAT INTO YOUR HARD HEAD YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!!
Message-ID: <7877iv8u1t59ffhh0...@4ax.com>
I KEEP TELLING YOU BUT YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!! AS LONG AS YOUR
PALS KEEP POSTING WHERE I LIVE THEN I WILL KEEP POSTING WHERE THE TWO
SHITS LIVE WHO MADE THE INFO AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!! LIVE WITH
IT PIG!!
Message-ID: bdfn30hqo2nvdmooe...@4ax.com
So what? You are only miffed because you are a homo!
Message-ID: <c04o9059bcs57auqf...@4ax.com>
You were Yale's star witness so you should get him to re-file and both
of you come to my county and repeat your libelous perjurious lies you
fat evil slob and see how quick you get some jail time!
Message-ID: <fn4i90t6ki1amgt48...@4ax.com>
Implying I have a mental defect is all you have isn't is wh*re?
Message-ID: <iksmgvgbh22ro8i32...@4ax.com>
You like making with the FAT insults don't you KIKE?
Message-ID: <r70itvgvqp0hfrn0n...@4ax.com>
You must be referring to Yale "The Whale" Edeiken!
Message-ID: <mrsdrvkn3nhc6aql4...@4ax.com>
The whale is Yale as in Yale The Whale!
Message-ID: <vegarvsmooa86m0be...@4ax.com>
Well come to my jurisdiction and make your same accusations and get your
mentor to repeat his and we will see how quick you two become jailbirds.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP YOU LYING WH*RE!!
Message-ID: <k6e4hv00ma0udrsmn...@4ax.com>
GET THIS INTO YOUR HARD HEAD YOU GOD DAMNED EVIL WH*RE-- EACH AND EVERY
TIME ONE OF YOUR FELLOW THUGS POSTS WHERE I LIVE THEN I WILL POST WHERE
YOU AND YALE LIVE!! YOU CAN COUNT ON IT WH*RE!!
Message-ID: td1vgvsiogaet6hch...@4ax.com
Perhaps if I post where your father lives then maybe you will be
persuaded!!!
Message-ID: <b3cefv44ve7luh5et...@4ax.com>
Subject yourself to my jurisdiction and you will be given a dose of
reality! MAKE MY DAY!! PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
Message-ID: <f5r5hv092109l8gv1...@4ax.com>
You provide a starting point for more hatrassmenmt-- that's the big deal
you bastard!
Message-ID: <pg3hgv4gln3s948ct...@4ax.com>
Re-read what you said above and see who is the fucking idiot!
Message-ID: <f9upgvgg9k4kdo031...@4ax.com>
Go smoke some crack with yo gangstas.
Message-ID: <ptltgv48v6a267etp...@4ax.com>
Why don't you come to my jurisdiction and file a complaint
Message-ID: <r8o9hv0p0gtd8qlfk...@4ax.com>
Don't hold your breath wh*re. If you want to press charges or litigate
come to my town and mind you by subjecting yourself to the legal system
of my jurisdiction I will be able to resolve some old matters myself.
Message-ID: <gj1bhv8m41a09nj79...@4ax.com>
Just like a sicko to deny their words were meant to intimidate!
Message-ID: <io49iv43v2k4fgbp0...@4ax.com>
He won't be laughing when he sees the documents I have to present! You
are going to get a royal deep sixing pig!
Message-ID: <4bgbivci6b1h7nrc0...@4ax.com>
That is your address dickhead and I promise you this- each and very god
damned time you post where I live I will do likewise and I will also
post where Yale and Sara live too because they are the ones who made my
confidential info public in the first place! If you don't like it then
report me to my DA you hypocritical mother fucker!
Message-ID: <7nkdivsuqb91tcvjn...@4ax.com>
My DA is NOT interested in your accusations! He tries criminal cases in
my jurisdiction. He won't accept your affidavit as being true without
proof of the accusations. If you submitted the above to him then you are
hanging yourself you evil lying pig!
Message-ID: <ncgiivg9a3mekr98t...@4ax.com>
If you had read what I lp;osted you would have known you stupid Pharisee!
Message-ID: <3ejskvkagkhk5edam...@4ax.com>
WHY DO YOU KEEP LEAVING THIS OUT YOU RETARD?
Message-ID: <9lirkv027hv40gjd6...@4ax.com>
You're too stupid to see how your glaring hypocrisy has been exposed!
Message-ID: <20komvglbofvsto4f...@4ax.com>
Nope I am not a hypocrite for posting Sara "The Fist" Salzman's Literary
Works seeing how those only make up a very small percentage of my
postings BUT so far you hitting a perfect 100%!
Message-ID: <db08nvgq6p68iv5m5...@4ax.com>
What do you SCOOP? POOP?
Message-ID: cd4mnv4c7j36ncg53...@4ax.com
I proved nothing other than how you lie, smear, libel, and perjure
yourself you disgusting pig!
Message-ID: <5ro6409oob68bcf3d...@4ax.com>
You are a vile repulsive pig who is a liar, a perjurer, and a hypocrite!
YOU WON"T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS MENTALLY ILL!!
Message-ID: <74q550l2prd9158m9...@4ax.com>
Sara Salzman
> On 20 Mar 2006 07:35:13 -0800,
Scott Bradbury lives in Belleville.
Aurora, Belleville, so what?
Sara Salzman
Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
wrote:
> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Belleville, Texas.
So what.
Herr Doktor Tavische
<catamont-1DB563...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>Subject: Scott Bradbury's Mental Problems May Be Related to his Mental Problems
Your subject title shows your mental state you self confessed retardee!
~~Sara Salzman = (Crack)Pot Who Called the Kettle Black~~
TinyURL to GOOGLE search: http://tinyurl.com/dpwnu
(Archived locally as: Pot_Kettle_Black_Hypocrisy)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 100 of 621 for "Idiot"
author:cata...@concentric.net
Sample Returns:
Irving: not only an idiot -- but downright crazy?
alt.revisionism - Oct 16 2004, 7:42 pm by Sara Salzman
R. Scott Bradbury - Moronic Idiot
alt.revisionism - May 5 2004, 1:12 pm by Sara Salzman
Bradbury - a Moron or an Idiot?
alt.revisionism - Dec 4 2005, 9:54 am by Sara Salzman
Blandish to world: I'm an idiot.
alt.revisionism - Jun 26 2005, 12:03 am by Sara Salzman
Why Kurt Knoll is an idiot
can.general - Mar 9 2005, 9:05 pm by Sara Salzman
<End of Sample Returns>
My honest observations:
Funny thing that a self confessed mental retard who squeezed out not one BUT two
"Village Idiots" would be referring to other people as idiots! Sara's children
were not born twins either and they had separate births years apart from one
another. The odds of parents having one "mentally challenged" offspring is
minuscule BUT for the same parents to have two "mentally challenged" offspring
birthed to them is astronomical and as such speaks volumes of the parents'
lifestyles and genetics. Photos of the "Mother Village Idiot":
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_2.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
Sara's children can't be held accountable for the losers they have as father and
mother and they are victims of a perverted S&M Bondage Lifestyle as well as drug
abuse in the home environment all detailed in the archive below:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/345c6d04bdaa93e4?fwc=1
Subject: Did Sara "The Fist" Salzman's S&M/Drug HomeLife Result in Two "GIFTED"
Children? I.E. Genetics/Lifestyles? V2.0
Message-ID: <v78mt1def3trm00k8...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jan 2006 08:50:39 GMT
------------------------------
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
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Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
(Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2)
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c1ab5163934419f4?fwc=1
Subject: Sara Salzman Lies about her Being a Crackpot As Well as Other Lies
V2.0 U_0121 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:35:11 -0600
Message-ID: <qok5t1tf5hev7f7m6...@4ax.com>
Now go do what you do best you crackpot and fist yourself.
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
<127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
>> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
>>
>> No one gives a crap.
I forgot to post this in my reply to your lunacy you fat pig:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/12/Denver061203.html
(Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_1)
"Sara Salzman, an Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in
Excerpt:
Media Contact:
Sara Salzman
303-617-9412
me...@holocaust-history.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
<end>
<end>
>> Sara
>>
>
>Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your own
>words against you. When it comes to exposing you people - He quotes from
>Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the messanger.
>
>When he post stuff, calling you people the beast of revelation - why not
>debate him?
>
>Ya see, Sara. You people are the Synagogue of Satan. I know it, he knows it,
>and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
Very well stated ol' chap. Just remeber: http://tinyurl.com/p69np or look at my
header info!
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
<catamont-14AF65...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD>,
> "127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> Sara Salzman wrote:
>>
>> > In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
>> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Belleville.
>> >
>> > Belleville.
>> >
>> > Belleville.
>> >
>> > Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
http://tinyurl.com/agwvr
Message-ID: <146d0240...@usw-ex0102-014.remarq.com>
>> >
>> > No one gives a crap.
>> >
>> > Sara
>> >
>>
>> Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your own
>> words against you. When it comes to exposing you people - He quotes from
>> Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the messanger.
>>
>> When he post stuff, calling you people the beast of revelation - why not
>> debate him?
>>
>> Ya see, Sara. You people are the Synagogue of Satan. I know it, he knows it,
>> and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
>
>You're not just a baby, you're a delusional baby.
>
>Why would you have any respect for someone who says things like:
>
>Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
Now you resort to out of context quotes which have been repeatedly slam dunked.
My but you are a stupid pig!
~~Sara Salzman's Out of Context Quotes Exposed for Their Malicious Deceit~~
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bf4d3308dad101f4&_done=/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4
Click the link above and do as instructed to have all links and e-mail addresses
properly restored.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury Spews Again
Message-ID: <gurdv157iovh3tvas...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Feb 2006 10:02:57 GMT
------------------------------
"Quoting out of Context
If you quote someone, but select the quotation so that essential context
is not available and therefore the person's views are distorted, then you've
quoted "out of context." Quoting out of context in an argument creates a straw
man fallacy.
Example:
Smith: I've been reading about a peculiar game in this article about
vegetarianism. When we play this game, we lean out from a fourth-story window
and drop down strings containing "Free food" signs on the end in order to hook
unsuspecting passers-by. It's really outrageous, isn't it? Yet isn't that
precisely what sports fishermen do for entertainment from their fishing boats?
The article says it's time we put an end to sport fishing.
Jones: Let me quote Smith for you. He says "We...hook unsuspecting passers-by."
What sort of moral monster is this man Smith?
Jones's selective quotation is fallacious because it makes Smith appear to
advocate this immoral activity when the context makes it clear that he doesn't."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/fallacies.htm#top (Archived locally as: Fallacies)
"Moore ethics at UVSC
September 19, 2004
Michael Moore's visit to campus has been lauded as getting a big name
and getting a draw. His politics are characterized as liberal and left wing and
the cost has the appearance of exorbitance. Yet none of these are reasons to
object to his coming. The reasons to object reside in his blatant lies, in his
twisting of the truth and calling it a documentary. It is not that I disagree
with his politics (though in fairness, I do) that prompts this response: I
disagree with bringing to our campus a blatant, one sided, unscrupulous
propagandist whose use of free speech has abandoned the ethical limits that make
free speech valuable, and to paying him a huge fee and saying it is in the
interest of being even handed or that it teaches skillful filmmaking. Such
positions are untenable on their face.
I object to bringing someone here who has been documented, in at least
60 specific instances in Fahrenheit 9/11 by at least a dozen reputable writers
and researchers, as lying, misinterpreting, misquoting and quoting out of
context, and then using the results as his stock in trade. Moore has gained his
notoriety by skillful lying. He has done so in a medium that evidently has
almost no limits on propriety. He presents bits of truth mixed with lies and
innuendo. He provokes situations with unprepared individuals and then edits his
film to make his victims look foolish and inserts comments that twist the
presentation...
We at UVSC claim a great deal of identity based on our ethics program,
and now we have invited a guest whose behavior has all the appearance of being
antithetical to one of our foundations, one even lauded in our proposed mission
statement. Being a big name and a draw is not enough. Fairness; yes. Two sides,
even one-sided at a time; sure. But at least let them have a foundational ethic
that allows us to deal rationally with them. It is not a matter of bringing in
another point of view: it is a matter of bringing in a liar.
Paul Tanner, Ph.D.
Department of English and Literature" <end>
http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=414f27248cc6e
(Archived locally as: OutOfContextLying)
IOW Sara is a liar just like Michael Moore!
More and more people see you and McVay and all of the other losers who like to
use out of context quotes for the filth you are.
~~Ken McVay Misquotes My Reply to Coward who Posted Phoney Child Porn Ad~~
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/c245f947fa0deccb?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project's Kenneth McVay's Out of Context Smear Answered -
McVay is a Liar and an Agent of Smear
Message-ID: <hmjp12191f6maopbb...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 03:19:27 GMT
Brief excerpt:
From: kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:34:11 -0000
Message-ID: <121oo5j...@corp.supernews.com>
--
"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
<end>
Your current record as of March 20, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22hanging+you+up+on+a+meat+hook%22+author%3Akmcvay%40shell.vex.net&start=0&num=30&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off&filter=0
Use: http://tinyurl.com/ku4x2 of the above link gets corrupted.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 30 of 43 for "hanging you up on a meat hook"
author:kmc...@shell.vex.net ((Search results for March 20, 2006 - 7:35PM CST.
No telling how many more times the liar will post the same deceitful smear.))
(Archived locally as: McVay_OutOfContextSmear2)
How many more times are you going to spam the same dishonest out of context
quote McVay? Why don't you have the guts to quote me in actual context? Afraid
you'll lose the smear factor when the truth is known that I responded (most
likely) to one of your allies who posted a phoney child porn ad which gave out
my address and telephone number which you have admitted as making available from
your very own NIZKOR web site?... The actual context may be seen here:
Message-ID: <43de165c....@news.tavish-central.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/fdb9b25cb879445?fwc=1
Date: 30 Jan 2006 13:33:05 GMT
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
<catamont-768816...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>Subject: The Idiocy of Scott Bradbury
Sample Returns:
<End of Sample Returns>
My honest observations:
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
<127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
><Snip>
>
>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more than
>cuss you out!
Believe it or not in all of those out of context quotes liar Salzman concocted I
was still exercising restraint!!
>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his windows,
>forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged post.. And you
>have to ask why he cusses you people out?
They fail to see the error of their wicked ways.
>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn adds in
>your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone would throw rocks
>threw your window?
She would scream anti-Semitism and push for "hate crimes prosecution."
Yids are hypocritical swine and that is why I never deny that people wanted to
make them extinct throughout the ages with Germany being the latest (70 some odd
years ago) and now Iran saying it wants to nuke them all. Jews can't blame the
rest of humanity for hating them. They aren't disliked and hated without a
reason. Jewish conceit and exaggerated sense of self importance of their
"Choseness" won't allow them to perceive what it is about themselves which makes
people hate them so.
Tavish
Are Jewish Religious Teachings and Traditions Bigoted and Racist?
A simple test of substituting key words proves such as true!
(From: Bigotry by Jews Toward Non-Jews (Wine Bigotry) New Findings [In Their
Own Words Series])
1) "If a non-Jew touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his
body), or if it is touched through his power, a rabbi should be consulted as to
the fitness of the wine.
When we send wine through a non-Jew, we must take the precaution of
doubly sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel.
There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a Jew makes for a
non-Jew, for the purpose of selling it to Jewish consumers. In certain
instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to
consult an ordained rabbi as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The
scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine."
[No one sees bigotry in the above apparently BUT what if the above was
a non-Jewish teaching about Jews and the above read instead as]:
2) "If a Jew touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his
body), or if it is touched through his power, a minister should be consulted as
to the fitness of the wine.
When we send wine through a Jew, we must take the precaution of doubly
sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel.
There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a non-Jew makes for
a Jew, for the purpose of selling it to non-Jewish consumers. In certain
instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to
consult an ordained minister as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The
scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine."
[What if Whites had such teachings about non-Whites? Would they not
be called White Supremacists and Racist Bigots?]
3) "If a non-White touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his
body), or if it is touched through his power, a minister should be consulted as
to the fitness of the wine.
When we send wine through a non-White, we must take the precaution of
doubly sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel.
There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a White makes for
a non-White, for the purpose of selling it to White consumers. In certain
instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to
consult an ordained minister as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The
scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine."
----------------------------------------------
How would examples 2 & 3 be accepted? Everyone should do tests such as the
examples just given to all the teachings cataloged in this archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5ce40e836935964?fwc=1
Subject: UPDATED Jewish Bigotry as Documented From Their Own Web Sites and in
Their Very Own Words V6.0 U_0228
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:21:56 -0600
Message-ID: <ffq902h2q528h5k06...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ffq902h2q528h5k06...@4ax.com
Herr Doktor Tavische
<catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>
>> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
Why did you cut this part out you squealing squirming pig?
<START/QUOTE>
Excerpt:
Media Contact:
Sara Salzman
303-617-9412
me...@holocaust-history.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
<end>
<end>
<END/QUOTE>
OOOPS!! Sara Salzman got her arse bit royally by her own standards!!
>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you fat
pig!
>So what.
You are an accomplice to a criminal perjurer and forger.
You are also a liar when you repeatedly quote me out of context too!
>--
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
>my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
>Fatboy you stupid kike.
> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Your out of context smear above now shown for the deceit it is:
>-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
>is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
>you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my fill
of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
people hate double standards!
The above exchange was a result of this:
<start/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:
><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
>Fatbury Scumbag>
My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is all
a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty filthy
lying Jew bastard! <END>
------------------------
Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/8fd00d6cb881ab3d?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e8a753c50b100597?fwc=1
Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun Control!
Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January 17,
1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
<end/quote>
>-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
>the bulk of my posts prove so!
Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!
The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted
unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"
>You can't discern the difference.
>BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post but
when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you think
it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes, swine,
vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!
> --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time
I've had my abundant fill of your name calling! If you don't want me to call you
and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew Bastards/Bitches in
reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you should stop with
the name calling! Plain and simple!!
Keep quoting meout of context you fat slob and future generations will see you
for the fat lying slob you are as well!
I.E.
~~Chris Larson Making an Observation He Ignores Himself~~
"...Scott EVERY post that is entered in internet newsgroups is
archived forever. What archived means Scott, is that every time you
make a post it is stored permanently- FOREVER..."
-From: "Chris Larson" <larsonc...@hotmail.com>
-Subject: An Internet Lesson for Scott Bradbury
-Date: 1 Mar 2006 05:19:15 -0800
-Message-ID: <1141219155.6...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
- http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e91f0fc300f53b7a?fwc=1
-(Archived locally as: Larsons_Posts_Last-Forever)
Chris Larson should realize what he advised above is also applicable to himself
when all he can do is make childish accusations and hurl juvenile insults in
opposition to my facts. He has no pride nor any shame in that he doesn't care
how posterity will see him. Keep it up Larson-- you make me look good! Tavish
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD>:
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
>>
>> No one gives a crap.
>Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your own
>words against you.
No, he lies about those words, then makes threats and posts what he
thinks is other people's addresses while whining about the town he
lives in being posted -- after he himself has done so.
>When it comes to exposing you people - He quotes from
>Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the messanger.
No, he doesn't, anymore than you do.
>When he post stuff, calling you people the beast of revelation - why not
>debate him?
Because he ignores the substantive parts of those posts, preferring to
abuse anyone that disagrees with his crap -- only to come back and re
re re post it ad nauseam.
>Ya see, Sara. You people are the Synagogue of Satan. I know it, he knows it,
>and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
Just like you "know" that Moed Kattan 17a discusses a "Jew tempted to
do evil?"
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>> Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
>>
>> NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
>> Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
><Snip>
>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more than
>cuss you out!
And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
By your "logic," wouldn't that justify what anyone else "does" to him?
>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his windows,
>forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged post.. And you
>have to ask why he cusses you people out?
You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn adds in
>your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone would throw rocks
>threw your window?
What if someone forged a death threat against the President in your
name?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
><catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
>My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you fat
>pig!
... or showed up on her Caller ID when you called her to try to get
her to appear on that talk show with you...
Joe Bruno
Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2006 07:35:13 -0800,
> <1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
> <br...@indystart.com> wrote:
>
> >> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type 1
> >> Diabetes:
> >
> > You whine when anyone tells where you live,
>
> Because 1st) it's irrelevant, 2nd) where I live was discovered with a forged
> subpoena issued on my ISP by an unethical shyster,
I told ya before, you fool: There are no subpoenas in civil matters.
What you got was a summons.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>>> Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
>>>>
>>>> NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
>>>> Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
>>><Snip>
>>>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more
>>>than cuss you out!
>> And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
>What's he done?
Well, for example, he's posted what he tried to claimed was my home
address.
>> By your "logic," wouldn't that justify what anyone else "does" to him?
>Everyone has a right to revenge. Revenge is a God given right.
What was it your Lord and Saviour said about this?
>>>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his windows,
>>>forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged post.. And you
>>>have to ask why he cusses you people out?
>> You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
>I've seen the child porn add posted in his name.
You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>He said you people broke his window out,
He says a *lot* of things with no relation to the truth, just like
you.
You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>I believe him.
Of course you do: he's hater like you.
>Look at Zundel, his house was fire bombed.
And there is good reason to believe he did it himself.
>Google JDL+Terrorism, look at all of the terrorist acts they perpetrated
>against Gentiles.
You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>>>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn adds
>>>in your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone would throw
>>>rocks threw your window?
>> What if someone forged a death threat against the President in your
>> name?
>I guess I would go to jail if the forgery was done right.
No, actually you wouldn't.
The Chief Instigator
>On 20 Mar 2006 07:35:13 -0800,
><1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
><br...@indystart.com> wrote:
>>> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type
>>> 1 Diabetes:
>> You whine when anyone tells where you live,
>Because 1st) it's irrelevant, 2nd) where I live was discovered with a forged
>subpoena issued on my ISP by an unethical shyster, and 3rd) losers like you
>only post where I live in an attempt to intimidate me into silence which has
>filed so far!!!
Funny how your own mentor Don Ellis outed you...a fact that you'd rather kill
yourself than admit.
>>and now, you're exposing personal medical information on Patrick?
>PUBLIC information which Patrick Lee Humphrey made public himself as in:
Since you're so sure of that, you have no room to whine when the address Ellis
made public information is posted. You can't have it both ways, Baby Huey.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
The Chief Instigator
>On 20 Mar 2006 10:30:21 -0600, <szkpskh...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>...and he flipped out because we were heading in his direction twice on
>>Sunday. I guess he's too stupid to figure out if we go from Houston to San
>>Antonio and back, we have to be headed in his direction at some time.
>>Fatbury's definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, if only because he's
>>bigger than the shed...
>You're acting like you mis-dosed your insulin again Patrick!
You're acting like you ODed on it long ago, and what little is left of your
brain is acting up.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
The Chief Instigator
>In article <3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>[a whole lot of crap about diabetes and Patrick Humphrey deleted]
>You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
>by medication.
>Your psychoses obviously are completely immune from any sort of
>treatment.
Too bad...he'd have to be housed at Rusk, if that's the case.
The Chief Instigator
>In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>Belleville.
>Belleville.
>Belleville.
>Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
>No one gives a crap.
Scottie gives it away for free...and there are megatons of it.
The Chief Instigator
>In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Belleville, Texas.
>So what.
There's a conspiracy afoot - mine reverse-traces to Houston. ;-) (So do the
others that aren't listed.)
The Chief Instigator
>Sara Salzman wrote:
>> In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
>> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> wrote:
>>> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
>> And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Belleville, Texas.
>> So what.
>Does Scott not have your social security number?
If he does and uses it for purposes of fraud or anything else that Sara
doesn't consent to, he's going to be wearing an orange tent for the rest of
his life.
Allan Matthews
> You take insulin? My granddad takes that stuff. You must be old.
And what about the kids who take it, stupid? Are they "old" too?
Taking insulin has to do with being diabetic, not being old.
[rest snipped]
Damn, neo-nazis are dumb.
allan
--
=========================================
"Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis."
=========================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
The Chief Instigator
>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
><catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
>> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> wrote:
>>> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
>Why did you cut this part out you squealing squirming pig?
Because no one but your fellow Nazikooks are interested in your insanity,
Fatbury. Get over your morbidly obese self, already.
The Chief Instigator
...and he provided it on *my* CLID box when he called begging for me to take
his side against Don Ellis. What an idiot...
The Chief Instigator
>In article <1871472.0W3ix3cP4o@FreeBSD>, 127....@127.0.0.1 says...
>> You take insulin? My granddad takes that stuff. You must be old.
>And what about the kids who take it, stupid? Are they "old" too?
>Taking insulin has to do with being diabetic, not being old.
I should know, having had to take it when I was all of fourteen years old.
>[rest snipped]
>Damn, neo-nazis are dumb.
That's being a bit too charitable for the likes of Tommy Toothless.
Ben Cramer
"Joe Bruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>
> (1)you're a human who weighs as much as a whale
> (2) you're a psychotic liar.
> (3)You suffer from acute abysmal stupidity
Were you to add "mentally dysfunctional" that's you to a "T", joey.
Let not those who live in glass houses, and all that.
Ben Cramer
"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-6E387D...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>,
>
> You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
> by medication.
Not all diabetes is controllable by medication, you stupid slag.
Ben Cramer
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD...
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
>> In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Belleville.
>>
>> Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
>>
>> No one gives a crap.
>>
>>
>
> Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your own
> Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the
> messanger.
>
> debate him?
>
> it,
> and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
Praise be to Allah.
Ben Cramer
"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
news:oo2v12lkrd6u9hmid...@4ax.com...
>
>>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more
>>than
>>cuss you out!
>
> And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
And what are these "things", Woger? Do please elaborate, and try to be
honest.
Ben Cramer
Does it really matter, joey. Whatever the fuck it was, it was forged, you
dull cunt.
>
Herr Doktor Tavische
Only AFTER ther fact that Yale F. Edeiken posted it in the first place and if he
had not done such with my address and telephone number then I doubt very
seriously that I would have ever called Sara salzman. Care to deny the simple
fact now you bonehead?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts? aka Re: Why won't Sara Salzman respond to her challenge being met by proof
being provided? V2.0 T_0931
Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>There's a conspiracy afoot
Speaking of afoot-- how are your feet doing? Have any more of either one of them
whacked away? Stay away from those sweets!
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
Funny that Sara Salzman posts a moronic subject title as: "Scott Bradbury's
Mental Problems May Be Related to his Mental Problems" but what can people
expect from a person who admitted in usenet that the6y are retarded?
On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
"How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
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Message ID: <catamont-548CA8...@spectator.sj.sys.us.xo.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9d9e9b42701ff692?fwc=1
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9d9e9b42701ff692?dmode=source
Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
(Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2)
<<Tavish comment: You don't have to tell me numerous times you're retarded Sara-
I have known you to be a retard for many years! Picture of the self confessed
mental retardee: http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif
>>No one gives a crap.
>
>Scottie gives it away for free...and there are megatons of it.
Patrick-- why are you spending so much time in alt.support.depression?
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=20&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.support.depression+&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=pat...@io.com&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
(OR use http://tinyurl.com/e6agm if the above GOOGLE link gets corrupted.)
Searched all groups Results 1 - 20 of 376 for group:alt.support.depression
(March 20, 2006) author:pat...@io.com (Archived locally as: PLH_Depression)
This return from the above tells it all and shows how even other people see you
for what you are Patrick.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/msg/4e384a58ff3cb947?fwc=1
Sender: pat...@eris.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Subject: Re: IF YOU CARVE YOUR PUMPKIN WITH A CHAINSAW
Date: 11 Oct 2005 00:53:05 -0500
Message-ID: <szky850...@eris.io.com>
((Maybe your depression is caused by your conscience trying to tell you that
your supporting infanticide and flaming "pro-lifers" is bad and you don't
recognize that your Nazi like personality toward the unborn is truly evil!))
You take out your frustrations and failures on other people Patrick and that is
not good. You need to take your meds, leave usenet, get a life, get a real job
(do try to get over being fired by Rice University for stalking and harassing
people using their facilities) and perhaps your psychotic sociopathic rude
behavior will diminish. Also stay away from those sweets now which means no more
Snowflake donuts for you! Your obsession with Snowflake is documented here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Partly why you are the mental case you are:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
Tavish
wbarwell
*************************************************
* The Scientology Murder Project *
*************************************************
W.C. Barwell 1-26-2006
It is well known that Scientology in the past has
dabbled in the waters of murder of critics
and "squirrels".
This is a project to chase down as many examples
murder plans and attempts as possible. By doing
so, it will hopefully make it harder for them to
try again in the future.
Scientology is known to be willing to murder
people or drive them to suicide, this will
hopefully force Scientology cfor legal reasons,
if not moral reasons to avoid even appearances
of such activities in the future. Luckily,
they seem to be rather incompetent at actually
achieving real murders.
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KNOWN ATTEMPTS TO DATE
1. Paulette Cooper.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/frk.html
Operation Fair Game nearly drove her to
suicide. Nots from the GO org operatives show
that some were estatic at this news.
Tonja Burden, who was a young lady who worked
directly with Mary Sue and L. Ron Hubbard
wrote a declaration noting GO communications
were sent to the Hubbards, who knew full
well the Cooper opertion was ongoing.
Margery Wakefield Declaration
...
At one point, in the fall of 1977, I did
volunteer work for the infamous Guardian's
Office of Scientology, the branch of Scientology
which deals in espionage and covert activities.
...
The second murder that I heard planned was of
Paulette Cooper, who had written a book critical
of Scientology, and they were planning to shoot
her. To my knowledge this murder was not carried
out, but at this meeting it was planned.
...
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/aff_mw90.html
2. Cooper's Cousin, Joy Cooper was attacked by
a gun weilding assassin whose gun jammed,
apparently being mistaken for Cooper. The
assassin then attempt to strangle Joy Cooper.
http://lisatrust.bogie.nl/legal/cw-hearings/
cooper-testimony.htm
"And a series of mysterious circumstances occurred.
The important thing was that she opened up the
door to someone who had flowers and rang my bell.
And I was no longer living there, although, my name
was still on the door. And so, Eddie Walters told
you about R2-45, and you've heard the policy. When
Joy opened the door to get these flowers, he unwrapped
the gun -- he unwrapped the flowers and there was a
gun in it. And he took the gun and he put it at
Joy's temple and he cocked the gun, and we don't
know whether it misfired, whether it was empty and
it was a scare technique, what happened, but, somehow,
the gun did not go off. And the -- he started choking
her, and she was able to break away and she started
to scream. And the person ran away."
3. In the FBI 1977 raids on Scientology a gun and
"knock out drops" were found in a file cabinet
in CoS's GO headquarters in California.
4. In a 1994 declaration, Hana Whitfield notes
two Scientologists were dispatched to kill
Scientology apostate Jack Horner.
This failed, though they shot up his house.
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/aff_hw94a.html
Date: APRIL 4, 1994
DECLARATION OF HANA (ELTRINGHAM) WHITFIELD
I, Hana Whitfield, declare as follows:
...
53. I experienced this in 1968, when both
the "Avon River," the ship I captained
at the time, and the "Royal Scotman,"
Hubbard's Flag ship, were in Bizerte,
Tunis, in North Africa. Two Sea Org
Officers and I spoke on the dock one
evening. They were both flying out the
next day to Los Angeles, on a Hubbard
assignment. They told me that Hubbard
ordered them to shoot up Jack Horner,
who lived in Los Angeles, a suppressive
person whom Hubbard had personally declared
some years earlier. Both men had hand
guns and would travel with them. They
left ... and then returned some weeks
later. After their debrief they told me
that Horner had indeed been shot at multiple
times, while he and his family were in
their home one evening. Fortunately, no
one had been hurt.
...
5. Scott Mayer was ordered to attempt to kill
Mexican Bandits who had alledgedly attacked
a Scientology operated property.
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/scottm.html
INSTRUCTIONS TO KILL
22. While I was in the Sea Org, I was
instructed to kill another human being
by the Scientology organization. At the
time Scientology had an office on Beacon
Avenue in Los Angeles, very close to
McArthur Park. I was called in for a
briefing by Alex Sibryski. At that time,
Scientology had a ranch at Rosarito in
Mexico which was being used as a nursery,
a place for overflow kids that could not be
housed in Los Angeles and a place to grow
fruits and vegetables. Mexican bandits were
allegedly harassing and hustling the ranch
and stealing produce from it. Jerry McDonald
and I were asked to put together a mission to
go down to Mexico, take some infrared optics
and some guns and rifles, wait for the Mexican
bandits to attack the ranch again and then
take care of them. We were told to kill them
if necessary. I received these orders from
Alex Sibryski. At the time he was Commanding
Officer Flag Operations Western U.S.
("F.O.L.O.W.U.S."). This was part of Scientology's
elite Sea Organization. I was the Operations
Officer at Flags Operations Liaison Office
at the time
-18
and it was my job to write the mission orders
for this thing and get us all briefed and ready
to go. We figured that if we "took out" the
bandit leaders the rest would disband. It took
24-48 hours to get this done and in the course
of that time I never saw any written dispatches
on this but the mission was then canceled by
Alex Sibryski. He said that there was a governess
in-charge of the ranch and that the bandits
had tried to attack her at the place and she
had shot the bandit leader with a shotgun through
the door and taken care of the problem.
23. Jerry McDonald was widely rumored to have
been a former mercenary and a paid assassin in
Europe. He was known throughout the Sea Org for
taking care of difficult problems. If someone was
giving a problem in some area Jerry McDonald
would just appear there. Because of his
reputation as having been an assassin, if he
came on the scene, people would fear for their
lives. They believed that he was working totally
for Scientology and that he would do anything
for Hubbard. Additionally, he was also the kind
of guy who would have people over to his house
every now and then and would get out his
automatic weapons, clean them and put them
together in front of people. In this way, he
would let people know that he was really conversant
with his craft. He carried a 9 mm pistol on him all
the time and he was always talking about arms
sales and deals that he was doing. As things
turned out, he and I were not required to carry
out the instructions to kill that we had received.
However, if the orders had not been canceled I have
no doubt that he could have performed the task.
6. Garry Scarff testified in court that Scientology
has strongly attempted over a period of time
to get him to murder cult activist Cynthia
Kisser and her daughter, and anti-Scientologist
Ford Green.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bogie/dunkle_seite/scarff.html
Q. And were the specifics what you testified
about with regard to Cynthia Kisser just before
the break -- let me withdraw the question. What
were the specifics of the operation very briefly?
A. The specifics of the operation was for me to
fly to Chicago O'Hare Airport, rent a vehicle with
the information provided to me by the Office of
Special Affairs in Los Angeles and the OSA in Chicago
particularly with the tools provided to me by Randy
Kretchmar, who is an official of the OSA in Chicago,
to follow Cynthia Kisser home, run her off the road
and take all steps necessary to render Cynthia Kisser
dead.
It was also discussed for a greater impact in these
events that if someone within the Cult Awareness
Network got smart enough to replace Cynthia with
someone else, and that if Cynthia Kisser had her
daughter with her, it would be an added benefit
to kill Cynthia Kisser and to kill her daughter
as well, because when a child dies it carries a
greater impact in the minds of the public than if
simply an adult dies, and that would send a message
to the Cult Awareness Network that it was time to
end their hatred toward whom they perceived to be
cults.
Now, was Gene Ingram present at that meeting?
A. He was present, yes.
7. Garry Scarff testifies that the murder of lawyer
Ford Green was planned.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bogie/dunkle_seite/scarff.html
But you mentioned there was another murder conspiracy
as well. What was that one?
A. In December there was a desire in the OSA to end
the life of Ford Greene.
Q. Who is Ford Greene?
A. Ford Greene is an attorney who is also a former
member of the Unification Church or what people refer
to as the Moonies and he had represented former
Scientologists in litigation involving the Church
of Scientology.
Q. Would he be opposing counsel to Scientology
lawyers?
A. That's correct. And thus became a target of
the Fair Game doctrine by the church.
8. A 1968 Ethics Order on Jim Goodwin, Polly Strathis
and several others demanded,, " 7. Any Sea Org
member contacting any of them is to use Auditing
Process R2-45." Which is to shoot somebody with
a .45 caliber pistol. (From Creation of Human
Ability - 1952).
9. Margery Wakefield witnesses murder plots
http://lisatrust.bogie.nl/legal/declaration
-wakefield-6-3-93.htm
15. I consider myself to have been an average
Scientologist in the performance of these and
other duties for the G.O. In one other case,
I was included in a meeting where two murders
were planned by Scientology personnel, and I
was at that time in agreement with everything
I heard planned in the meeting.
Margery Wakefield Declaration
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/aff_mw90.html
...
At one point, in the fall of 1977, I did
volunteer work for the infamous Guardian's
Office of Scientology, the branch of Scientology
which deals in espionage and covert activities.
...
The second murder that I heard planned was of
Paulette Cooper, who had written a book critical
of Scientology, and they were planning to shoot
her. To my knowledge this murder was not carried
out, but at this meeting it was planned.
...
10. Steve Fishman is ordered to kill Uwe Geertz.
11. Steve Fishman is pressured to commit suicide,
"end of cycle:.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bogie/dunkle_seite/scarff.html
"Q. Now, we will return to some of the things you
just told me about, financial scams later as a
result of this list of yours. "Now, Dr. Geertz and
Steven Fishman also claimed at the sentencing
hearing of Steven Fishman that the church had
ordered Steven Fishman to murder Dr. Geertz and
then commit EOC or "end of cycle." We are going to
deal at length I think later today with those
activities, but for the moment in relation to the
Time magazine article, do you have any personal
knowledge of conspiracies to murder and suicide
with regard to the Church of Scientology? "
A. Yes, I do.
12. ATTORNEY MICHAEL J. FLYNN'S PLANE IS TAMPERED WITH
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/docs/michael
-j-flynn.txt
19. On or about October 19, 1979, plaintiff
was flying said airplane to South Bend, Indiana,
when the engine began to malfunction at
approximately 8,000 feet in altitude, lost power
entirely for a period of time, and plaintiff was
forced to land at an airport in proximity to
where the malfunction occurred. The plaintiff
subsequently discovered that large amounts of
water were present in his fuel tank, although
prior to take-off the undersigned had engaged
in a pre-flight examination of said fuel tanks,
and no water was present. The presence of the
water caused the malfunction of the engine and
the cessation of power. Plaintiff believes
that water balloons were placed in the tanks
of the airplane by Joseph Lisa and James Mulligan,
agents of the G.O., on orders from Hubbard.
13. William Franks testimony
Liebreich vs Church of Scientology Flag
Service Organization
Testimony of William Franks.
June 13, 2002. Afternoon Session.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. WEINBERG:
Q Now, Mr. Franks, let's go over a few things
at the first.
When you say you were the top official
or one of the top officials in the Church
of Scientology in 1981 -- I think you said
-- you didn't order someone to be killed in
the Church, did you?
A No.
Q No. And you don't know anyone in the
experience that you had for 13 and a half
years in the Church of Scientology -- you
don't know any staff member or public
that was ordered by someone like you in a
position of authority to be killed. Do
you?
A Truthfully? Yes, I do.
Q All right. Who is that?
A Well, Mo Budlong and Jane Kember. I don't
remember who the person was, but it was
some fellow in England.
Q And this was circa when?
A This goes back to the '70s.
Q And you were the one that ordered it?
A No. I was not the one that ordered it.
I happened to come across this.
14.
Posted to ARS, February 12, 2006
Posted by blownforgood on xenu.net today:
Thanks everybody for the welcome.
Here is some more stuff that I will tell you
that will confirm and or solidify your
speculations.
I saw another post about DM beating up on
Rinder. Well I have personally seen DM beat
the living shit out of Rinder at least 10 times
over the course of a year. That was only the
times I saw it. I can tell you that there were
proabably another 10X that behind closed doors.
Other people that I have seen him punch/slap
and or throw to the ground: Marc Yager, Mark
Ingber, Ray Mitoff, Rick Cruzen, Jeff Hawkins,
Jason Bennick, G. Leserve.
One time a girl from the Film Area was told
to run Yager down in her car - and she complied
- she drove after him and to get out of the way
he jumped over a wall and broke his friggin
ankle!!! I kid you not. this actually happened.
Any other questions? I would be glad to answer.
BFG
(End)
**************************************************
I am beginning to dig all this out and look for more.
if anybody knows of any more such incidents, please
let me know. Lets beat the bushes good and hard.
wbar...@munnged.mylinuxisp.com
Remove the munge to replay.
--
So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
Sara Salzman
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:30:53 -0500, <1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD> "127.0.0.1"
> <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> >Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> >> In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
> >> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Belleville.
> >>
> >> Belleville.
> >>
> >> Belleville.
> >>
> >> Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
> >>
> >> No one gives a crap.
>
> I forgot to post this in my reply to your lunacy you fat pig:
>
> http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/12/Denver061203.html
> (Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_1)
> "Sara Salzman, an Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in
Robert Scott Bradbury, a Belleville man who routinely demonstrates his
idiocy....
Sara
--
-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
Fatboy you stupid kike.
--Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD>,
> > "127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >
> >> Sara Salzman wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Belleville.
> >> >
> >> > Belleville.
> >> >
> >> > Belleville.
> >> >
> >> > Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
> >> >
> >> > No one gives a crap.
> >> >
> >> > Sara
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why do you people always pick on Mr. Badbury? I know why. He uses your
> >> own words against you. When it comes to exposing you people - He quotes
> >> from Jewish websites... You can't kill the message, so you target the
> >> messanger.
> >>
> >> When he post stuff, calling you people the beast of revelation - why not
> >> debate him?
> >>
> >> Ya see, Sara. You people are the Synagogue of Satan. I know it, he knows
> >> it, and many others are starting to see it... (Thanks to the internet)
> >
> > You're not just a baby, you're a delusional baby.
> >
> > Why would you have any respect for someone who says things like:
> >
> > Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
> >
> > NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
> > Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
> >
>
> <Snip>
>
> If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more than
> cuss you out!
>
> Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his windows,
> forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged post.. And you
> have to ask why he cusses you people out?
>
> Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn adds in
> your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone would throw rocks
> threw your window?
You are obviously too little to remember the year 2000, when death
threats to President Clinton were forged in my name and I was visited by
the Secret Service.
Or when links to a mapquest page with directions to my house were posted
under the subject line "Someone Please Kill Sara Salzman."
Or when my son's name was forged on posts and emails saying, "I am going
to blow up an Aurora high school" -- just weeks after Columbine.
Or when my daughter's name was forged on posts saying, "My mother makes
me give blow jobs for money."
Or when posts were forged in my father's name.
Although you've certainly seen an address posted here that purports to
be my father's, encouraging people to harass him.
So I've thought a lot about it, little child.
Sara Salzman
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
> <catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
>
> Why did you cut this part out you squealing squirming pig?
>
> <START/QUOTE>
> http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/12/Denver061203.html
> (Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_1)
> "Sara Salzman, an Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in
Robert Scott Bradbury, a Belleville woman who routinely shows his
psychopathy in alt.revisionism...
> Internet chat rooms and who sits on the board of the Holocaust History
> Project."
> -------------------------
> The above is quoted from:
> http://www.westword.com/issues/2003-12-04/news/offlimits_print.html
> (Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_2)
> '"...The mere thought of his upcoming visit raises the ire of Sara Salzman,
> an
> Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in Internet chat rooms
> and who sits on the board of the Holocaust History Project."'
>
> Sara Salzman is allegedly THHP's official spokesperson as well as evidenced
> here:
>
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/arson
> (Archived locally as: Holocaust History Project Won't Be Silenced)
>
> Excerpt:
>
> Media Contact:
>
> Sara Salzman
> 303-617-9412
> me...@holocaust-history.org
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> Trial By Fire: Holocaust History Project Won't Be Silenced
> In the early hours of March 6, 2006, a fire broke out at a warehouse complex
> near San Antonio International Airport, causing extensive damage to the
> offices
> of The Holocaust History Project (THHP), an organization that has been, for
> the
> last ten years, in the forefront of confronting Holocaust denial online, in
> addition to providing educational materials to students throughout the world.
> Arson investigators now have confirmed that the fire was intentionally set
> and
> are continuing their investigation...
>
> Harry Mazal, the Director of THHP said, "We have been able to defend our work
> against these cyber attackers. They tried, but couldn't shut us down. We have
> strong indications that this arson is the next step in a series of attacks
> against our educational and scholarly work. Although the fire caused
> significant
> damage to our offices, there is no way we will be silenced. Our web site has
> not
> been affected, and our work will continue." ...
>
> Media questions should be addressed to:
> Sara Salzman, 303-617-9412, me...@holocaust-history.org
>
> <end>
>
> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too! The full details
> are
> at this link:
> http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=15172271:res-us&OTMP
> L=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Salzman&QF=S&QC=Aurora&QS=CO&wqp=1&qsubcat=singl
> ematch
> Or use this link if the above link gets mangled: http://tinyurl.com/p69np
>
> <end>
>
> Here is an archive of Sara Salzman's opinions on Public Information:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0404eb695fbb8011?fwc=1
> Subject: Sara Salzman on Posting Where People Live - Her Double Standards
> Strike
> Again! Message-ID: <i81i0218nq7fpoufl...@4ax.com>
> Date: 4 Mar 2006 03:08:53 GMT
> Excerpts: "There's no crime in posting someone's publicly-available personal
> information... Wrong again, anti-Lawyer.It's not confidential, it's PUBLIC
> INFORMATION... public domain *is* just what it says..."
> <END/QUOTE>
>
> OOOPS!! Sara Salzman got her arse bit royally by her own standards!!
>
> >And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
>
> My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you
> fat
> pig!
>
> >So what.
>
> You are an accomplice to a criminal perjurer and forger.
>
> Seeing how where I live keeps being brought up I will post where the
> unethical
> and Publicly Censured and now INACTIVE former attorney lives who made the
> info
> public in the first place:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted
> along
> with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my
> address
> etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address,
> having
> magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. I am also being
> stalked by psychotics such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. FOR A FACT it was Yale F.
> Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info from my
> ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice under
> the
> Law of Moses:
> Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely
> because
> of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to
> him:
> Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
> 19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him:
> 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the
> other, so he is to be injured.
> YALE F. EDEIKEN
> 885 COLD SPRING ROAD; APARTMENT 2
> ALLENTOWN, PA 18103
> 610-435-9820
> <Source: Pennsylvania State Attorney Registration>
> If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out then he
> should encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my
> privacy!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> Special Note: The shyster named above issued a forged subpoena on my ISP to
> get
> my address and telephone number and then he criminally made it available to
> thugs such as Patrick Lee Humphrey. Proof that such an act was done to me may
> be
> read here: Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44
> fda3?fwc=1
> Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those
> Criminal
> Acts?.. Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
> IOW Patrick and others are accomplices to another criminal!
>
> You are also a liar when you repeatedly quote me out of context too!
>
> "Quoting out of Context
> If you quote someone, but select the quotation so that essential context
> is not available and therefore the person's views are distorted, then you've
> quoted "out of context." Quoting out of context in an argument creates a
> straw
> man fallacy.
> Example:
> Smith: I've been reading about a peculiar game in this article about
> vegetarianism. When we play this game, we lean out from a fourth-story window
> and drop down strings containing "Free food" signs on the end in order to
> hook
> unsuspecting passers-by. It's really outrageous, isn't it? Yet isn't that
> precisely what sports fishermen do for entertainment from their fishing
> boats?
> The article says it's time we put an end to sport fishing.
>
> Jones: Let me quote Smith for you. He says "We...hook unsuspecting
> passers-by."
> What sort of moral monster is this man Smith?
>
> Jones's selective quotation is fallacious because it makes Smith appear to
> advocate this immoral activity when the context makes it clear that he
> doesn't."
> http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/fallacies.htm#top (Archived locally as: Fallacies)
>
> "Moore ethics at UVSC
> September 19, 2004
> Michael Moore's visit to campus has been lauded as getting a big name
> and getting a draw. His politics are characterized as liberal and left wing
> and
> the cost has the appearance of exorbitance. Yet none of these are reasons to
> object to his coming. The reasons to object reside in his blatant lies, in
> his
> twisting of the truth and calling it a documentary. It is not that I disagree
> with his politics (though in fairness, I do) that prompts this response: I
> disagree with bringing to our campus a blatant, one sided, unscrupulous
> propagandist whose use of free speech has abandoned the ethical limits that
> make
> free speech valuable, and to paying him a huge fee and saying it is in the
> interest of being even handed or that it teaches skillful filmmaking. Such
> positions are untenable on their face.
> I object to bringing someone here who has been documented, in at least
> 60 specific instances in Fahrenheit 9/11 by at least a dozen reputable
> writers
> and researchers, as lying, misinterpreting, misquoting and quoting out of
> context, and then using the results as his stock in trade. Moore has gained
> his
> notoriety by skillful lying. He has done so in a medium that evidently has
> almost no limits on propriety. He presents bits of truth mixed with lies and
> innuendo. He provokes situations with unprepared individuals and then edits
> his
> film to make his victims look foolish and inserts comments that twist the
> presentation...
> We at UVSC claim a great deal of identity based on our ethics program,
> and now we have invited a guest whose behavior has all the appearance of
> being
> antithetical to one of our foundations, one even lauded in our proposed
> mission
> statement. Being a big name and a draw is not enough. Fairness; yes. Two
> sides,
> even one-sided at a time; sure. But at least let them have a foundational
> ethic
> that allows us to deal rationally with them. It is not a matter of bringing
> in
> another point of view: it is a matter of bringing in a liar.
> Paul Tanner, Ph.D.
> Department of English and Literature" <end>
> http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=414f27248c
> c6e
> (Archived locally as: OutOfContextLying)
>
> >--
> >-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
> >is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
> >you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
> >-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
> >my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference. BTW my name is not
> >Fatboy you stupid kike.
> > --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
>
> Your out of context smear above now shown for the deceit it is:
> >-My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call
> >is all a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong
> >you dirty filthy lying Jew bastard!
>
> Notice I called Art Tandy a lying Jew Bastard (which he is) AFTER I had my
> fill
> of his continual verbal abuse! I guess you expect me to not respond to such
> abuse in the manner I did which is another reason why Jews are despised. Most
> people hate double standards!
>
> The above exchange was a result of this:
> <start/quote>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
> Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish ...
> Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
> References: <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
> On 13 May 2003 21:18:58 -0700,
> <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
> tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:
>
> ><deleted unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named
> >Fatbury Scumbag>
>
> My name is not "Fatbury Scumbag" you stupid lying Jew bastard. Name call is
> all
> a pathetic loser like you has! You have yet to prove me wrong you dirty
> filthy
> lying Jew bastard! <END>
> ------------------------
> Rather than dealing in facts your Jew decided he would rather engage in
> name calling and chose to ignore my proofs and it is all fully documented
> here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/8fd00d6cb881
> ab3d?fwc=1
> Subject: Arthur J. Tandy in Denial About Who The Main Gun Grabbers Are!
> Message-ID: <rtasbv05mohed914k...@4ax.com>
> Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT1)
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e8a753c50b10
> 0597?fwc=1
> Subject: Arthur J. Tandy's Fellow Jews Are Trying to Extend Their Gun
> Control!
> Message-ID: <kf6dcv8pgph2v568b...@4ax.com>
> Date: 11 May 2003 11:35:17 GMT (Archived as: AJT2)
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8774def87f65d8db?fwc=1
> Subject: Re: Anti-Gun Organizations are Jewish (Classic Repost from January
> 17,
> 1997) Message-ID: <ple4cv8432qih0sft...@4ax.com>
> Date: 14 May 2003 13:23:47 GMT (Archived as: AJT3)
> <end/quote>
>
> >-I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and
> >the bulk of my posts prove so!
>
> Still TRUE and my original postings as a whole are not personal attacks!
> The greater majority of Art Tandy's posts are name calling and personal
> attacks which seems to be a very common method of reply by Jews and their
> gentile USEFUL IDIOTS! Anyone reading the above three archives will see me
> presenting many documented facts and in every case Art Tandy would reply
> with: "I deny it, you ignorant fat piece of lying shit.. You are a fat lying
> ignorant fuck.. Fatboy Turns Blind and runs Away from the Issue.. I am
> telling the TRUTH, something you cannot do very well, fatscum.. That
> doesn't prove all Jews support gun control, you fucking moron. Your
> logic is ridiculous and you are a stupid degenerate lowlife... <deleted
> unreliable bullshit by the psychotic and chronic liar named Fatbury Scumbag>"
>
> >You can't discern the difference.
> >BTW my name is not Fatboy you stupid kike.
>
> Who called names first? It is Okay for Jews to hurl abuse in post after post
> but
> when the recipient gets tired of it and calls the bastard a KIKE then you
> think
> it is ironic or hypocritical. If you Jews don't like being called kikes,
> swine,
> vermin etc, then STOP calling everyone you can't refute names!
>
> > --Scott Bradbury, who completely misses the irony of the above
>
> No, there is no irony. I will call you obnoxious Jews what you are every time
> I've had my abundant fill of your name calling! If you don't want me to call
> you
> and your fellow Christ Denying Pharisees KIKES or Lying Jew Bastards/Bitches
> in
> reply to your kind's continual insults hurled at me then you should stop with
> the name calling! Plain and simple!!
>
> Keep quoting meout of context you fat slob and future generations will see
> you
> for the fat lying slob you are as well!
>
> I.E.
>
> ~~Chris Larson Making an Observation He Ignores Himself~~
> "...Scott EVERY post that is entered in internet newsgroups is
> archived forever. What archived means Scott, is that every time you
> make a post it is stored permanently- FOREVER..."
> -From: "Chris Larson" <larsonc...@hotmail.com>
> -Subject: An Internet Lesson for Scott Bradbury
> -Date: 1 Mar 2006 05:19:15 -0800
> -Message-ID: <1141219155.6...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
> - http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e91f0fc300f53b7a?fwc=1
> -(Archived locally as: Larsons_Posts_Last-Forever)
> Chris Larson should realize what he advised above is also applicable to
> himself
> when all he can do is make childish accusations and hurl juvenile insults in
> opposition to my facts. He has no pride nor any shame in that he doesn't care
> how posterity will see him. Keep it up Larson-- you make me look good! Tavish
Sara Salzman
Roger <roger@.> wrote:
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
> in message <6ouu125u83ncq9jd8...@4ax.com>:
>
> >On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
> ><catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
> ><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
>
> >My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you
> >fat
> >pig!
>
> ... or showed up on her Caller ID when you called her to try to get
> her to appear on that talk show with you...
Or when, in that very same phone call, he GAVE IT to me.
Sara
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
> >
> > And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Belleville, Texas.
> >
> > So what.
> >
>
> Does Scott not have your social security number?
No, he doesn't. Why, baby Tommy? Would he do something illegal with it?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <1871472.0W3ix3cP4o@FreeBSD>:
>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>>>You're acting like you mis-dosed your insulin again Patrick!
>> You're acting like you ODed on it long ago, and what little is left of
>> your brain is acting up.
>You take insulin? My granddad takes that stuff. You must be old.
Because, of course, only old people have diabetes...
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>><<<FAIR USE INTENDED))>>>
>>
>> But once again, not achieved.
>>
>> Now, about your threats to make my personal details public -- how do
>> you justify this, given your constant whining about even so much as
>> the town you live in being posted?
>Roger, have you still not gave Scott your last name, location and phone#?
Why in the world would I do that, given that he so hypocritically (and
with your full support, apparently) has threatened to post the same?
>Dumb Joo Roger.
*Still* not Jewish.
But you're *Still* running from your lies about the EG...
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Roger wrote:
>
> > In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> > someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
> > in message <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >><<<FAIR USE INTENDED))>>>
> >
> > But once again, not achieved.
> >
> > Now, about your threats to make my personal details public -- how do
> > you justify this, given your constant whining about even so much as
> > the town you live in being posted?
>
> Roger, have you still not gave Scott your last name, location and phone#?
A delightful demonstration on how well little Tommy pays attention in
English class.
Please, Tommy, start going to class.
>
> Dumb Joo Roger.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <2764062.CR7f9OZOiU@FreeBSD>:
>Roger wrote:
>>>>>> Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
>>>>>> Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
>>>>><Snip>
>>>>>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do more
>>>>>than cuss you out!
>>>> And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
>>>What's he done?
>> Well, for example, he's posted what he tried to claimed was my home
>> address.
>He doesn't know where you live?
Obviously not.
Of course, your lies to the contrary notwithstanding, neither do you.
>>>> By your "logic," wouldn't that justify what anyone else "does" to him?
>>>Everyone has a right to revenge. Revenge is a God given right.
>> What was it your Lord and Saviour said about this?
>He would say: turn the other cheek, after that seek REVENGE!
Really? Where in the Scripture does He contradict Himself like that,
idiot child?
>>>>>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his windows,
>>>>>forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged post.. And you
>>>>>have to ask why he cusses you people out?
>>>> You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
>>>I've seen the child porn add posted in his name.
>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>Who else would do it?
Ah, so you *don't* have any proof that anyone here has done this.
So what does that do to your "justification" for blubberbury's
behaviour?
>>>He said you people broke his window out,
>> He says a *lot* of things with no relation to the truth, just like
>> you.
>>
>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>Who else would do it?
Some random kid like yourself who has not been taught any better?
>>>I believe him.
>> Of course you do: he's hater like you.
>Yeah, anyone who tells the truth about YOU PEOPLE are labled as HATERS.
Which "you people" are you pretending I am part of *this* time?
>Strong men and women don't cower at mere labels.
You mean like the way you whine at Sara for pointing out that you are
an ignorant lying little baby?
>>>Look at Zundel, his house was fire bombed.
>> And there is good reason to believe he did it himself.
>Could you be any more diluted?
Since I do not dissolve in any liquids I have yet encountered, yes I
could be more dilute that I current am.
Meanwhile, you really should research that firebombing on other than
your usual hater sites -- there are several ... suggestive elements
to the whole thing.
>>>Google JDL+Terrorism, look at all of the terrorist acts they perpetrated
>>>against Gentiles.
>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>Who else would do it?
Terrorists, obviously.
Have you any *proof* that any such post here?
>>>>>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn adds
>>>>>in your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone would throw
>>>>>rocks threw your window?
>>>> What if someone forged a death threat against the President in your
>>>> name?
>>>I guess I would go to jail if the forgery was done right.
>> No, actually you wouldn't.
>Sure you would.....
No, you wouldn't idiot child.
>If your computer was hacked.
You claim that having your computer hacked would send you to jail?
Do tell...
>The hacker would send out
>this -email / post via your computer.
Because, of course, hacking someone's computer is the only way to
accomplish such a forgery.
>The Secret Service kicks the door
>down takes your computer and sees that the post/mail was sent via your
>computer... And you go to jail.
No, you go down to the Boston field office, which in spite of your
lies is *not* run by a Jooo, and explain that you didn't send it, and
offer your alibi proving you were elsewhere when it was sent.
If you're a normal citizen with no other history of such threats and
no other obvious clues that you intended to carry out that threat, you
are then sent home with a couple of agents in attendance while your
computer is gone over more carefully.
They call in someone like me to do this, who discovers the script
kiddy such as yourself isn't capable of covering their tracks and so
it is likely that the threat *didn't* originate with the normal
citizen.
>I think
No, you don't.
>they can give you 5-years for making threats against the Prez.
But are, of course, too stupid to actually find out.
>You
>would have to prove you've been hacked, how would you do that if the hacker
>run a one shot deal, and left no rootkits on your computer?
There are many ways to detect such an incursion -- you'll pardon me if
I insist you remain ignorant of the finer details since I cannot trust
you to act responsibly with such information.
The Chief Instigator
>On 21 Mar 2006 00:44:38 -0600, <szky7z4...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
>Funny that Sara Salzman posts a moronic subject title as: "Scott Bradbury's
>Mental Problems May Be Related to his Mental Problems"
Even funnier that a malignant gasbag in Bellville rants at Sara in response to
an article I posted. You're an obsessive delusional, Fatbury. You've proved
that beyond any doubt.
The Chief Instigator
>On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:15:09 GMT, <ht2v121kt6hbaiid6...@4ax.com>
>Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>>In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>> someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
>> in message <6ouu125u83ncq9jd8...@4ax.com>:
>>>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
>>><catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>>><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>>>>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
>>>My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you fat
>>>pig!
>>... or showed up on her Caller ID when you called her to try to get
>>her to appear on that talk show with you...
>Only AFTER ther fact that Yale F. Edeiken posted it in the first place and if
>he had not done such with my address and telephone number then I doubt very
>seriously that I would have ever called Sara salzman. Care to deny the simple
>fact now you bonehead?
Somewhere in AT&T's database will be a record of a call you made to the sole
listed number at my residence, a few years ago. Care to deny that?
The Chief Instigator
>On 21 Mar 2006 00:48:23 -0600, <szku09s...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>There's a conspiracy afoot
>Speaking of afoot-- how are your feet doing? Have any more of either one of
>them whacked away? Stay away from those sweets!
They're in good enough shape to have gotten me from the Rivercenter Marriott
all the way to the west end of the Riverwalk and back in about 90 minutes,
last Saturday (allowing time for lunch at County Line)...and Dale's the one
with the cane.
Herr Doktor Tavische
wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>
>
>*************************************************
>* The Scientology Murder Project *
>*************************************************
I wrote no such stuff you liar and you deleted all of the content of my post yet
you are the very hypocrite who has stated:
"I keep thrusting proof in your ugly, lying face. YOU REFUSE TO DEBATE ISSUES!
You refuse to discuss the issue... You refuse to debate issue... You don't care
for facts... You are a loud mouthed lout who can't won't shut up and won't
debate issues. That's a bad value. Hypocricy and dishonesty. You pretend to
value reason but do not when push comes to shove. Carping hypocricy is not a
good value. You do not value reason. You do not value rationality. You do not
value obvious facts. You do not value logic."
- http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/edba6467bdbadff6?fwc=1
- (Archived locally as: Barwell_Homo_Atheist2)
- From: wcb <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
- Subject: Re: Yet another phony religious study "proving" religion works
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 05:15:50 -0500
Look at who the hypocrite is! It's you Barwell-- you won't deal with the issue
that your buddy Patrick Lee Humphrey is a liar and a stalker with mental
problems.
What I wrote and what William Charles Barwell ran from may be read at this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cb941096eed263d8?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Scott Bradbury's Mental Problems May Be Related to his Mental
Problems
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:34:08 -0600
Message-ID: <7tkv12hs0c9j0esi3...@4ax.com>
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aero貞.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
~~End of Exact GOOGLE Archive~~
Why does Patrick know so much about my residence but denies stalking me!!?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ac3892053e0a95cd?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick L. Humphrey-- A Dangerous Stalker? - How To Identify Stalkers
Message-ID: <4n4u10thkq0jntg82...@4ax.com>
----Patrick Lee Humphrey = Documented Self Confessed Peeping Tom----
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper)
Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?"
Date: 1996/09/03
Message-ID: <50ht24$l...@anarchy.io.com>
---Sad, but true, but at least it'll be a bit easier than I thought to
encounter "Shawn" when I'm in Austin next month--if I'm out at night, just look
for anyone peeking into windows... Patrick L. Humphrey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what some experts say about Patrick's behavior:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/db/issues/99/10.28/news.peeping.html
(Archived locally as: PLH_Voyeur)
Voyeurism at root of Peeping Tom incidents
CRIME: Cases uncommon on campus; recent arrest one of seven since 1997
By Linh Tat Daily Bruin Contributor Although everyone has heard the term
"Peeping Tom" before, most people may still be in the dark when it comes to
understanding the nature of this criminal offense. Many people may label a
person who secretly observes another undressing or in the nude as a Peeping Tom,
but they do not always consider that those who repeatedly commit this offense
may suffer from a psychological disorder.... <END> Try: http://tinyurl.com/8jj6w
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.html
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919)
http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2000/0responses/2000-0919.resp.pdf
(Archived locally as: 2000-0919.resp.pdf)
...In November 1997, after reviewing police reports that implicated petitioner
as a suspect in a "Peeping Tom" incident that occurred in the vicinity of the
rape, NCIS reopened its investigation. Pet. App. 23a. Thereafter, the NCIS
office in Hawaii asked NCIS Special Agent John McNutt, assigned to the NCIS
office in Memphis, Tennessee, to interrogate petitioner... During that
review, McNutt learned that petitioner was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder.... <END>
wbarwell
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:32:41 -0600, <121vs51...@corp.supernews.com>
> wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>
>>Herr Doktor Tavische wrote:
>>
>>
>>*************************************************
>>* The Scientology Murder Project *
>>*************************************************
>
> I wrote no such stuff you liar and you deleted all of the content of my
> post yet you are the very hypocrite who has stated:
>
Kook, this is alt.religion.scientology.
Not infantile kooks flame Humpheries.
You don't like it that I point out the evils and
failings of Scientology, well too bad, animal grunting
stupid little retard.
Amazing, by posting on topic, I send you into frenzies
of rage, kooking off and squawking and sputtering.
DECLARATION OF TONJA BURDEN
7th day of November, 1983
DECLARATION OF TONJA BURDEN
I, TONJA BURDEN, declare:
1. I have personal knowledge of the facts
sworn to herein and if called as a witness to
testify there to could do so of my own personal
knowledge.
2. I became involved with the Church of
Scientology of California ("California")
and the "Sea Org" in March 1983 at the
age of 13 when I was recruited by its agents.
The "Sea Org" is an elite para-military
organization of "California" with uniforms and
military discipline.
3. In the summer of 1974, I was placed on board
the Appollo, L. Ron Hubbard's ("Hubbard") Flagship
which carried about 300-500 people. After about
three months of indoctrination, I became Hubbard's
personal messenger.
4. As Hubbard' s personal messenger, I dressed
and undressed him, combed his hair, lit his
cigarettes, caught the ashes, prepared his shower
and toiletries and took care of his personal needs.
5. I carried messages between Hubbard, Mary Sue
Hubbard and the Telex machines and radio operators
on the Appollo and later after September, 1975 in
Daytona and Clearwater, Florida.
6. I personally delivered messages concerning
"Operation Snowhite", "Operation Goldmine" and
"Operation Freakout", and other Scientology covert
operations.
7. I personally delivered messages concerning
the above operations to Hubbard, Mary Sue Hubbard
and the Guardian's Office and I personally filed
messages concerning these and other operations
in Hubbard's personal filing cabinet.
8. Prior to February - April, 1976, when
Hubbard left Clearwater, Florida, I carried
numerous messages between Hubbard and others
concerning Paulette Cooper. These messages
concerned operations to attack and destroy
Paulette Cooper.
9. Between February and April, 1976, when
"Operation Freakout" was in the planning
stages, I coded and decoded messages
concerning this operation.
10. I escaped from Scientology in November,
1977, but was later kidnapped in Las Vegas,
Nevada by two of Hubbard's agents and taken
to Los Angeles where I was locked in a room and
"security checked" on an E-Meter.
11. Between September 1974 and December, 1977,
I have personal knowledge that L. Ron Hubbard and
Mary Sue Hubbard operated and controlled the Church
of Scientology of California and all other
Scientology operations worldwide.
12. I have personal knowledge that Hubbard and
Mary Sue were personally involved in controlling
covert operations against Paulette Cooper for the
purpose of destroying her.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the
laws of the State of California that the
foregoing is true and correct.
Executed this 7th day of November, 1983, at
Las Vegas, Nevada.
TONJA BURDEN
Declarant
(End)
Kenneth McVay OBC
Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
REQUESTS FOR ADMISSION
NOW COMES Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken and demands that, pursuant to Rule
4014, Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, Defendant Scott Bradbury
admit or deny the truth of the following within thirty (30) days of service
or, by failing to do so, admit the truth of the matters asserted:
1. Defendant Scott Bradbury publishes material on the Internet under
the pseudonym "Doc Tavish."
2. Defendant Scott Bradbury has in the past and continues in the
present to use various services to publish his material in a manner in
which it cannot be traced back to its source.
3. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published material on the Internet
under the pseudonym "Nazihunter."
4. Defendant Scott Bradbury has created and published on the
Internet under the name of "Nazihunter" a website which gives his own
address and telephone number.
5. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter falsely claimed that said
website was created by others in an attempt to harass him.
6. Defendant Scott Bradbury has, at various times, published his own
address and telephone number under the name of "Nazihunter" together with
various threats of violence.
7. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter made the false claim,
based upon such publications, that he is being harassed and threatened by
others.
8. Defendant Scott Bradbury has at various times contacted various
internet service providers and, using the false pretense that he was the
author, cancelled the published work of others.
9. Defendant Scott Bradbury has participated in campaigns of
threats, defamation, forgery, and harassment in order to intimidate and
harass his opponent and prevent them from exercising their rights of free
speech.
10. Defendant Scott Bradbury has assisted and/or obtained the
assistance of others in said campaigns, including but not limited to David
E. Michael, Donald Ellis, and "Pat Blakely."
11. That Donald Ellis has published material under the pseudonyms
"Mike Kalvatis," "Pat Blakely," "RevWhite" and "Rabbi Brimstone."
12. That at all times relevant hereto Defendant Scott Bradbury was
aware of the use of those pseudonyms by Donald Ellis.
13. The targets of said campaigns of harassment have included, inter
alia, Plaintiff, Sara Salzman, Jeffrey G. Brown, Ken McVey, Scott Murphy,
David Gehrig, Andrew Skolnick, Steven Wolk, Mike Curtis, Andrew Mathis, and
all others named in "The Nizkor Phonebook."
14. Defendant Scott Bradbury has forged material which he claimed
originated from Jeffrey G. Brown and published said material on the
Internet falsely claiming that it originated from Jeffrey G. Brown.
15. Defendant Scott Bradbury has forged material which he claimed
originated from Andrew Skolnick and published said material on the Internet
falsely claiming that it originated from Andrew Skolnick.
16. Defendant Scott Bradbury has forged material which he claimed
originated from Plaintiff and published said material on the Internet
falsely claiming that it originated from Plaintiff.
17. Said forgeries have included forgeries making unwanted sexual
advances to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
18. That no such unwanted sexual advances were ever made.
19. That notwithstanding the fact that said communications were
forgeries and known to be such by Defendant Scott Bradbury, Defendant Scott
Bradbury forwarded them to third persons claiming that they were true and
accurate.
20. That the purpose of Defendant Scott Bradbury in distributing said
forgeries was to injure the reputation of Plaintiff and to induce others to
terminate a business contract with Plaintiff.
21. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published the statement that he has
been threatened with homosexual rape by Plaintiff, Jeffrey G. Brown and
Kenneth McVay.
22. Said claim was published despite the fact that no such threat had
ever been made to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
23. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published the claim that Andrew
Mathis, Ph. D., had solicited minor boys by offering them alcoholic
beverages.
24. Said claim was made despite the fact that Defendant Scott
Bradbury knew that no such offer or solicitation had ever been made.
25. Since the filing of this lawsuit Defendant Scott Bradbury
increased his efforts to harass and threaten Plaintiff and to distribute
false and defamatory information about him in an effort to intimidate
Plaintiff.
26. Defendant has been assisted in this effort by David E. Michael
and Donald Ellis publishing material either under their own names,
pseudonyms, or anonymously.
27. Defendant Scott Bradbury, either personally and/or acting through
others who were, then and there, acting with his knowledge assistance and
consent have attempted to disrupt Plaintiff's internet service by
"mailbombing" him by sending gigantic files to him as electronic
communications.
28. Defendant Scott Bradbury, either personally and/or acting through
others who were, then and there, acting with his knowledge assistance and
consent have attempted to disrupt Plaintiff's internet service by asking
various commercial services to send him electronic communications thereby
overwhelming his service provider with "spam."
29. Defendant Scott Bradbury, either personally and/or acting through
others who were, then and there, acting with his knowledge assistance and
consent have attempted to disrupt the internet service of others by send
them "mailbombs" in Plaintiff's name and using Plaintiff's name to spam
such persons.
30. On or about July 2, 2000, Defendant Scott Bradbury either
personally or acting through his associates acting then and there with the
knowledge, consent, approval and assistance of Defendant Scott Bradbury
published personal information about Plaintiff's family including his
father, mother, sister and brother including their names addresses,
telephone numbers with instructions to call and harass them. Said
publication is attached hereto and made part hereof as "Exhibit "A."
31. The purpose of said publication was to threaten, harass, and/or
intimidate Plaintiff and to encourage others to commit acts of violence
against him and his family.
32. Said purpose was at all times known to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
33. On or about July 7, 2000, Defendant Scott Bradbury either
personally or acting through his associates a ting then and there with the
knowledge, consent, approval and assistance of Defendant Scott Bradbury
published four threats of violence against Defendant Scott Bradbury. One
such publication is attached hereto and made part hereof as Exhibit "B."
34. The purpose of such forgeries was to harass Plaintiff with false
charges.
35. Notwithstanding that he was aware said publications were
forgeries, Defendant Scott Bradbury forwarded copies of said publications
to Plaintiff's internet provider claiming that Plaintiff had published said
material.
36. That Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat Blakely" a/k/a "RevWhite" forwarded
said publications to the law firm of Todd S. Miller & Associates
notwithstanding the fact that said publications were known to him to be
forgeries.
37. The purpose of said action was to adversely affect the
professional standing of Plaintiff.
38. That such distribution was done with the approval, consent, and
knowledge of Defendant Scott Bradbury who was at all times aware of the
forgery.
39. Said publication was made with the consent, approval, and
knowledge of Defendant Scott Bradbury who had, at that time, a full
understanding of the purpose and intent of that publication.
40. That Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat Blakely" a/k/a "RevWhite" forwarded
said publications to Plaintiff's internet service provider and to various
law enforcement agencies notwithstanding the fact that said publications
were known to him to be forgeries.
41. The purpose of said action was to adversely affect the
professional standing of Plaintiff and to have fraudulent criminal charges
brought against him.
42. That such distribution was done with the approval, consent, and
knowledge of Defendant Scott Bradbury who was at all times aware of the
forgery.
43. On or about July 10, 2000, a forgery was published under the name
of Plaintiff making a death threat against the Woman's Center of Allentown.
Said publication is attached hereto and made part hereof as Exhibit " C."
44. Said publication was made by Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat Blakely"
a/k/a "RevWhite" a/k/a "Rabbi Brimstone" with the purpose of harassing,
threatening, and intimidating the persons named on said list.
45. Said publication was made with the assistance, consent, approval,
and knowledge of Defendant Scott Bradbury who had, at that time, a full
understanding of the purpose and intent of that publication.
46. On or about July 14, 2000, a forgery was published under the name
of "Wendy Edeiken" making a death threat against Plaintiff. Said
publication is attached hereto and made part hereof as Exhibit " D."
47. Said publication was made by Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat Blakely"
a/k/a 'RevWhite" a/k/a 'Rabbi Brimstone" with the purpose of harassing,
threatening, and intimidating the persons named on said list.
48. Said publication was made with the assistance, consent, approval,
and knowledge of Defendant Scott Bradbury who had, at that time, a full
understanding of the purpose and intent of that publication.
49. On or about July 22, 2000, Defendant Scott Bradbury published a
direct threat of violence against Plaintiff. Saud threat is attached
hereto and made part hereof as Exhibit 'E."
50. Defendant Scott Bradbury has contributed to, participated in
and/or cooperated with the establishment on the Internet of a site known as
"The Nizkor Phonebook."
51. The purpose of "The Nizkor Phonebook" is to threaten, harass,
and/or intimidate Jews and others who disagree with Defendant Scott
Bradbury and his accomplices.
52. The purpose of 'The Nizkor Phonebook" was at all times known to
Defendant Scott Bradbury.
53. On or about July 24, 2000, "The Nizkor Phonebook" was edited to
display a picture of an automatic pistol above personal information about
Plaintiff and his wife including their names addresses, telephone numbers,
and a map whereby they could be located.
54. The purpose of said publication was to threaten, harass, and/or
intimidate Plaintiff and to encourage others to commit acts of violence
against him.
55. Said purpose was at all times known to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
56. On or about July 25, 2000, "The Nizkor Phonebook" was edited to
display personal information about Plaintiff and his wife including their
names addresses, telephone numbers, and a map whereby they could be located
surrounded by images of dripping blood.
57. The purpose of said publication was to threaten, harass, and/or
intimidate Plaintiff and to encourage others to commit acts of violence
against him.
58. Said purpose was at all times known to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
59. On or about July 29, 2000, "The Nizkor Phonebook" was edited to
display personal information about Plaintiff's father, mother, sister, and
brother including their names addresses, telephone numbers, and a map
whereby they could be located surrounded by images of dripping blood.
60. The purpose of said publication was to threaten, harass, and/or
intimidate Plaintiff and to encourage others to commit acts of violence
against them.
61. Said purpose was at all times known to Defendant Scott Bradbury.
62. On or about July 14, 2000, a publication called "The Dead Pool"
was made by Donald Ellis under the pseudonym "Rabbi Brimstone" which named
various opponents of Defendant Scott Bradbury and his associates asking for
wagers as to which would die first. Said publication is attached hereto
and made
part hereof as Exhibit "F."
63. Said publication was made by Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat Blakely,"
a/k/a "RevWhite" a/k/a "Rabbi Brimstone" with the purpose of harassing,
threatening, and intimidating the persons named on said list.
64. The title of said publication was intended as a reference to a
list of death threats in a motion picture of the same title, and in said
motion picture members of the "Dead Pool" list were murdered.
65. In subsequent publications on the topic, Donald Ellis a/k/a "Pat
Blakely" demonstrated that he was familiar with this significance of the
title, and therefore the "Dead Pool" post can reasonably be construed as a
series of death threats against the individuals listed therein.
66. Defendant Scott Bradbury was aware of the threatening nature of
the publication at the time that it was made.
67. Defendant Scott Bradbury advocates that Jews be deprived of the
civil, political, and human rights in the United States.
68. Defendant Scott Bradbury endorses the stereotype of Jews as
depicted in the propaganda of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis as true and
accurate.
69. Defendant Scott Bradbury has claimed that the Holocaust
did not occur.
70. Defendant Scott Bradbury has endorsed the positions of William
Pierce and the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi and violently anti-Semitic
organization which teaches that Jews are "mud people" who should be
murdered in a nationwide pogrom.
--
"But I was not diagnosed as 'morbidly obese' you evil
kike and you are perpetuating a lie started by your
fellow filthy kike hook nosed vermin named ..."
(Scott Bradbury, Bellville's Leading Revisionist Scholar)
Kenneth McVay OBC
Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <00uu121o3mtef1np5...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:30:53 -0500, <1585665.Ffi3d4rJez@FreeBSD> "127.0.0.1"
>> <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> >Sara Salzman wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <dbiu129u8nup7f68a...@4ax.com>,
>> >> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Belleville.
>> >>
>> >> Belleville.
>> >>
>> >> Belleville.
>> >>
>> >> Now, go be a good little doggie and post Yale's address.
>> >>
>> >> No one gives a crap.
>>
>> I forgot to post this in my reply to your lunacy you fat pig:
>>
>> http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/12/Denver061203.html
>> (Archived locally as: SaraBoardMemberTHHP_1)
>> "Sara Salzman, an Aurora woman who routinely confronts Holocaust deniers in
>
>Robert Scott Bradbury, a Belleville man who routinely demonstrates his
>idiocy....
That's "a Bellville (sad excuse for a) man who routinely....." (Between 529 and 159, in
what appears to be a slum area on the wrong side of the tracks.)
--
"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> I hadn't heard about any of that. Must have happend before I came to
> alt.rev.
Must have.
But it doesn't change the fact that it has all been done.
You said "If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I
would do more than cuss you out!"
Really? So what do you think I should do to the "you people" who did
this to me?
Hmm?
Or maybe you should just keep your little baby mouth shut and stop
judging people you know nothing about, eh?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>> Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
>>>>>>><Snip>
>>>>>>>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do
>>>>>>>more than cuss you out!
>>>>>> And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
>>>>>What's he done?
>>>> Well, for example, he's posted what he tried to claimed was my home
>>>> address.
>>>He doesn't know where you live?
>> Obviously not.
>>
>> Of course, your lies to the contrary notwithstanding, neither do you.
>>>>>> By your "logic," wouldn't that justify what anyone else "does" to him?
>He doesn't do anything to them.
You mean other than publish *their* home addresses and phone numbers,
along with that of their parents?
Not to mention zir other threats and lies?
>>>>>Everyone has a right to revenge. Revenge is a God given right.
>>>> What was it your Lord and Saviour said about this?
>>>He would say: turn the other cheek, after that seek REVENGE!
>> Really? Where in the Scripture does He contradict Himself like that,
>> idiot child?
>He doesn't say what to do after your turn the other cheek.
... strongly suggesting that that should be the end of it.
Certainly He never advocated revenge.
>That means revenge.
No, that is lie.
But then what can one expect form someone that thought the Bible
advocated prostitution?
Here, let me try to point out the idiocy you're spouting in terms even
*you* will understand:
If you "do" something to me, and I "do" something to you to take
revenge, then you get to "do" something back for revenge, then I get
to "do" something back, then you get to "do" something back for
revenge, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to "do"
something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to
"do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get
to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you
get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then
you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back,
then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something
back, then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do"
something back, then ...
Do you begin to see the problem?
>I might also point out that in your Torah it says an eye for an
>eye.
Since when do *I* have a Torah?
>So, you people also believe in revenge.
No, my people do not.
It's not my fault that you haven't a clue as to who those people are.
But that doesn't stop you from continuing to lie about it.
>>>>>>>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his
>>>>>>>windows, forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged
>>>>>>>post.. And you have to ask why he cusses you people out?
>>>>>> You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
>>>>>I've seen the child porn add posted in his name.
>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>What proof do you have they didn't.
It doesn't work that way, idiot child: *you* made the claim, *you*
support it.
>>>Who else would do it?
>> Ah, so you *don't* have any proof that anyone here has done this.
>Nor can you prove the didn't.
Sure I can:
Did anyone here do any of these things?
<silence>
Nope, no one piped up: guess no one here did any of those things.
Got anything other than baby tantrums to support your assertion that
anyone here *did*?
>> So what does that do to your "justification" for blubberbury's
>> behaviour?
>>>>>He said you people broke his window out,
>>>> He says a *lot* of things with no relation to the truth, just like
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>>>Who else would do it?
>> Some random kid like yourself who has not been taught any better?
>I don't break windows or do stupid shit like that.
Actually, you have admitted to doing stupid sh*t, idiot child.
Hell -- you've *bragged* about it, and gotten upset when everyone
doesn't jump up to tell you how cool you are for doing them.
And besides, given your history of lies, why should anyone believe
that you *don't*?
Can you *prove* that it wasn't you doing all these things?
>>>>>I believe him.
>>>> Of course you do: he's hater like you.
>There you go calling people haters again.
Only when they are...
>>>Yeah, anyone who tells the truth about YOU PEOPLE are labled as HATERS.
>> Which "you people" are you pretending I am part of *this* time?
>My I call you Kazer?
No, you *may* not.
Why would you even *want* to call me by a name that is not mine?
>>>Strong men and women don't cower at mere labels.
>> You mean like the way you whine at Sara for pointing out that you are
>> an ignorant lying little baby?
>I ignore the ad hom attacks by you people.
No, you very recently whined about it, and not for the first time
either.
>>>>>Look at Zundel, his house was fire bombed.
>>>> And there is good reason to believe he did it himself.
>>>Could you be any more diluted?
>> Since I do not dissolve in any liquids I have yet encountered, yes I
>> could be more dilute that I current am.
>Doubtful.
... and it goes right over the idiot child's head.
>> Meanwhile, you really should research that firebombing on other than
>> your usual hater sites -- there are several ... suggestive elements
>> to the whole thing.
>I have, it looks like the terrorist Irv Ruben did it.
Really? You have a *reliable* citation to a non hater site making
this claim?
>Zundel has yet to get revenge for that.
Mostly because zie knows better.
>Terrorist also bombed the IHR if I'm not mistaken.
Which you usually are.
Someone torched the offices of the THHP -- for what was *that*
revenge?
>>>>>Google JDL+Terrorism, look at all of the terrorist acts they perpetrated
>>>>>against Gentiles.
>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>No.
Then why do you lie that this justifies blubberbutt's behaviour?
>>>Who else would do it?
>> Terrorists, obviously.
>We agree.
>> Have you any *proof* that any such post here?
>No...
So, your lame justification for lard ass' behaviour is shown to be no
more factual than most of your posts.
>>>>>>>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn
>>>>>>>adds in your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone
>>>>>>>would throw rocks threw your window?
>>>>>> What if someone forged a death threat against the President in your
>>>>>> name?
>>>>>I guess I would go to jail if the forgery was done right.
>>>> No, actually you wouldn't.
>If it was sent via your computer, and your were shown be home that day -
>chances are they would nail ya.
And of course, you're assuming facts not in evidence.
>>>Sure you would.....
>> No, you wouldn't idiot child.
>Depends on the jury.
No, it doesn't -- the investigation wouldn't get that far.
>>>If your computer was hacked.
>> You claim that having your computer hacked would send you to jail?
>>
>> Do tell...
>If a hacker gains controll over your computer and sends a threat out to the
>Prez, you hit in the mouth.
Nope.
>>>The hacker would send out
>>>this -email / post via your computer.
>> Because, of course, hacking someone's computer is the only way to
>> accomplish such a forgery.
>If the intent of the person doing the forging wanted to send you to jail,
>yes..
Who has said anything about the *intent*? What if the intent was to
harass?
>You could use a re-mailer and forge someones name, but that would
>hold no water.
Which is not the only other way, either.
>I bet they would still pay you a visit - but it wouldn't go
>anywhere in court because they couldn't prove who sent the mail.
Now you're starting to get why your blanket assertion that the target
would absolutely go to jail.
>>>The Secret Service kicks the door
>>>down takes your computer and sees that the post/mail was sent via your
>>>computer... And you go to jail.
>> No, you go down to the Boston field office, which in spite of your
>> lies is *not* run by a Jooo, and explain that you didn't send it, and
>> offer your alibi proving you were elsewhere when it was sent.
>And if you were home?
Read on.
>> If you're a normal citizen with no other history of such threats and
>> no other obvious clues that you intended to carry out that threat, you
>> are then sent home with a couple of agents in attendance while your
>> computer is gone over more carefully.
>They better have a warrant.
Ummm -- if they've taken you in for questioning on this matter, the
warrant was executed at the same time, idiot child.
>> They call in someone like me to do this, who discovers the script
>> kiddy such as yourself isn't capable of covering their tracks and so
>> it is likely that the threat *didn't* originate with the normal
>> citizen.
>Lol...... You think you could stick some sam7 boot disk into my computer and
>change the password like you do on a windows box? Of course you do.
Irrelevant to the topic in question, but yes: if I have physical
access to a computer, I own it almost that easily.
>Even if you did get my encryption has, I don't use those lame md5 ciphers, I
>use blowfish.
And you just keep right on thinking that that makes your crap safe: it
makes me look that much better when I get called in and have started
the printout before they're done questioning you.
>>>I think
>> No, you don't.
>Yes I do..
Not very well.
>>>they can give you 5-years for making threats against the Prez.
>> But are, of course, too stupid to actually find out.
>Nonetheless, you go to jail for a long time.
5 years is tinker toy time, idiot child.
>>>You
>>>would have to prove you've been hacked, how would you do that if the
>>>hacker run a one shot deal, and left no rootkits on your computer?
>> There are many ways to detect such an incursion --
>I'm an guru when it comes to security and intrusion detection.
Suuuuuuure you are.
That's why you were *just* whining about your inability to do your
firewall properly.
>> you'll pardon me if
>> I insist you remain ignorant of the finer details since I cannot trust
>> you to act responsibly with such information.
>So you're capable of finding a rootkit on windows are ya?
That's trivial.
>How would that be
>possible, the O/S is made up of millions of lines of code.
... which just shows that you don't even know where to begin looking.
>Yeah, you could
>look for kernel hooks and if they are detected how are you going find the
>rootkit? Do tell... Anyone will tell you that if you are rooted you need to
>reinstall.
A good piece of advice if you allow yourself to be rooted -- who knows
what other errors you've made.
>Finding rootkits on Nix is easy. I use a program called tripwire. It creates
>a encrypted database of your system. Any changes, no matter how slight will
>show up when you check the database against your current system. Before you
>install a program, you run tripwire to make sure nothing has been changed
>added etc. Install your program and update tripwire to reflect whats
>current. Simple isn't it.. Don't know why anyone hasn't written such a
>program for windows..
They have.
And the above doesn't help if someone re-writes that database.
Nor does it address how one would *still* own the box, given physical
access.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>I don't do anything illegal Sara.
That conviction a couple years ago notwithstanding...
Allan Matthews
Conviction for what? Terminal stupidity?
allan
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http://www.allan.matthews.name
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <q8mdncj2vtlnBr3Z...@giganews.com>:
>In article <1g6122l7r6ricvgqs...@4ax.com>, roger@. says...
>> >I don't do anything illegal Sara.
>> That conviction a couple years ago notwithstanding...
>Conviction for what? Terminal stupidity?
The idiot child tried to blame me (in one of our first encounters) for
zir having been picked up by the FBI for some sort of hacking.
Allan Matthews
Him? A hacker? ROTFLMAO!!!
Yeah, right.
allan
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============================================
"The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism
is to make National Socialism an acceptable
political alternative again."
- some two-bit neo-Nazi
============================================
http://www.allan.matthews.name
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Allan Matthews wrote
>In article <e57122h6rakrk4ee0...@4ax.com>, roger@. says...
>> >> >I don't do anything illegal Sara.
>> >> That conviction a couple years ago notwithstanding...
>> >Conviction for what? Terminal stupidity?
>> The idiot child tried to blame me (in one of our first encounters) for
>> zir having been picked up by the FBI for some sort of hacking.
>Him? A hacker? ROTFLMAO!!!
>
>Yeah, right.
Is what zie *claimed* -- had *Some* of the consequences right, too.
But then we *are* talking about the whiny sucky lying little baby...
Herr Doktor Tavische
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Does Rusk have a crane big enough to get Bradbury into bed?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:24:28 -0000
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <1220knc...@corp.supernews.com>
References: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
<3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/d4c02e7c8ed38938?fwc=1
Anyone who is honest can click the two links above to see what liar Kenneth
McVay is seeking to divert from-- namely: "Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental
Problems May Be Due to His Type 1 Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses
People in alt.religion.scientology and alt.revisionism)"
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:24:28 -0000, <1220knc...@corp.supernews.com>
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>Archive/File: people/b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-Bradbury-RA.01
>Last-Modified: 2001/02/14
>
> REQUESTS FOR ADMISSION
>
> NOW COMES Plaintiff Yale F. Edeiken and demands that, pursuant to Rule
>4014, Pennsylvania Rules of Civil Procedure, Defendant Scott Bradbury
>admit or deny the truth of the following within thirty (30) days of service
>or, by failing to do so, admit the truth of the matters asserted:
>
> 1. Defendant Scott Bradbury publishes material on the Internet under
>the pseudonym "Doc Tavish."
>
> 2. Defendant Scott Bradbury has in the past and continues in the
>present to use various services to publish his material in a manner in
>which it cannot be traced back to its source.
>
> 3. Defendant Scott Bradbury has published material on the Internet
>under the pseudonym "Nazihunter."
>
> 4. Defendant Scott Bradbury has created and published on the
>Internet under the name of "Nazihunter" a website which gives his own
>address and telephone number.
>
> 5. Defendant Scott Bradbury has thereafter falsely claimed that said
>website was created by others in an attempt to harass him.
>
> 6. Defendant Scott Bradbury has, at various times, published his own
>address and telephone number under the name of "Nazihunter" together with
>various threats of violence.
That smear has been debunked numerous times for the outlandish lies they are you
liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/834c29d6b2fadf04?fwc=1
Subject: Myth I Posted as NAZIHUNTER and Posted Yale F. Edeiken's Family Info
DEBUNKED For the Evil Defamation It Is. V1.0
Message-ID: <70pit1l70omnoueno...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:36:13 GMT
Stay deceitful you tax cheater and I will keep telling the truth about you!
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's three bold faced lies: "(Lie 1) What Mr. Bradbury has failed
to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, (Lie 2) has any
association whatsoever with the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund...
(Lie 3) Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."- I now prove McVay told
three lies with his own words:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
Xref:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: <msohq1ltuiv3fdvpr...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <2537031.lNipjQqF8H@FreeBSD>,
> > "127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >
> >> Sara Salzman wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <21nu12p9fu07kgc71...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That 303-617-9412 reverse traces to Aurora, Colorado too!
> >> >
> >> > And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Belleville, Texas.
> >> >
> >> > So what.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Does Scott not have your social security number?
> >
> > No, he doesn't. Why, baby Tommy? Would he do something illegal with it?
> >
> > Sara
> >
>
> I don't do anything illegal Sara.
You asked if SCOTT had his SSN. I asked why you cared, and you suddenly
got all self-righteous.
Something to hide, Baby?
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Use your imagination, God knows you have one. (my master holds the rope just
> so)
>
> <snip ad home attack>
>
AD HOME ATTACK?!?!?!
THis little kid is a million laughs.
Ben Cramer
"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
news:47uv129p86hl9dlkg...@4ax.com...
>
>>You take insulin? My granddad takes that stuff. You must be old.
>
> Because, of course, only old people have diabetes...
You fucking idiot. That really takes the cake.
Do you have the same medical encyclopaedia that joey b'runo owns?
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>On 21 Mar 2006 00:48:23 -0600, <szku09s...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>>There's a conspiracy afoot
>
>>Speaking of afoot-- how are your feet doing? Have any more of either one of
>>them whacked away? Stay away from those sweets!
>
>They're in good enough shape to have gotten me from the Rivercenter Marriott
>all the way to the west end of the Riverwalk and back in about 90 minutes,
>last Saturday (allowing time for lunch at County Line)...and Dale's the one
>with the cane.
Caught you in yet another lie "Toeless." You are the one who uses a cane and a
picture is worth a thousand words!
Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
Who has the cane Humpy? YOU!! Care to deny it now Toeless Freak? Your wife needs
to stop gorging on all those Snowflake donuts too!
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Crip)
Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
(Picture of Patrick with walking stick archived locally as: Chief_Crip)
Posting Name: Patrick Humphrey Type: Type-1
Real Name: Patrick Humphrey Dx Date: Nov. 1, 1969
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 49
Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier. (The
pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after their Calder
Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)
--PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989
<end>
Remember Toeless Freak-- stay away from those sweets-- it may be a foot or two
next go around!
~~Mounting Evidence Patrick's Wife Devours Donuts Voraciously~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cdb1c64479fa19fc?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Morbidly Obese Wife Needs to Stay Away From
Donuts and ALL Sweets!
Message-ID: <ubbp121rfksthqft0...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 01:32:51 GMT
Tavish
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
> NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 23 at Omaha, 7:05
--
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Herr Doktor Tavische
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>--
>"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
>would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
>I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
>then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
That's another lie added to the count!
~~Ken McVay Misquotes My Reply to Coward who Posted Phoney Child Porn Ad~~
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/c245f947fa0deccb?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project's Kenneth McVay's Out of Context Smear Answered -
McVay is a Liar and an Agent of Smear
Message-ID: <hmjp12191f6maopbb...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 03:19:27 GMT
Brief excerpt:
From: kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:34:11 -0000
Message-ID: <121oo5j...@corp.supernews.com>
--
"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
<end>
Your current record as of March 20, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22hanging+you+up+on+a+meat+hook%22+author%3Akmcvay%40shell.vex.net&start=0&num=30&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off&filter=0
Use: http://tinyurl.com/ku4x2 of the above link gets corrupted.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 30 of 43 for "hanging you up on a meat hook"
author:kmc...@shell.vex.net ((Search results for March 20, 2006 - 7:35PM CST.
No telling how many more times the liar will post the same deceitful smear.))
(Archived locally as: McVay_OutOfContextSmear2)
How many more times are you going to spam the same dishonest out of context
quote McVay? Why don't you have the guts to quote me in actual context? Afraid
you'll lose the smear factor when the truth is known that I responded (most
likely) to one of your allies who posted a phoney child porn ad which gave out
my address and telephone number which you have admitted as making available from
your very own NIZKOR web site?... The actual context may be seen here:
Message-ID: <43de165c....@news.tavish-central.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/fdb9b25cb879445?fwc=1
Date: 30 Jan 2006 13:33:05 GMT
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Quoting out of Context: If you quote someone, but select the quotation so that
essential context is not available and therefore the person's views are
distorted, then you've quoted "out of context." Quoting out of context in an
argument creates a straw man fallacy."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/fallacies.htm#top (Archived locally as: Fallacies)
---------------------
"Moore ethics at UVSC
September 19, 2004
Michael Moore's visit to campus has been lauded as getting a big name
and getting a draw... I disagree with bringing to our campus a blatant, one
sided, unscrupulous propagandist whose use of free speech has abandoned the
ethical limits that make free speech valuable... I object to bringing someone
here who has been documented, in at least 60 specific instances in Fahrenheit
9/11 by at least a dozen reputable writers and researchers, as lying,
misinterpreting, misquoting and quoting out of context, and then using the
results as his stock in trade. Moore has gained his notoriety by skillful
lying...
Paul Tanner, Ph.D.
Department of English and Literature" <end>
http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=414f27248cc6e
(Archived locally as: OutOfContextLying)
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
<catamont-6E387D...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>In article <3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>,
> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
> wrote:
>
>[a whole lot of crap about diabetes and Patrick Humphrey deleted]
Once again here are the facts which you want to dodge like the deceitful in
denial slob you are:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
http://www.mental-health-matters.com/articles/article.php?artID=324
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Psychotic_3)
<EXCERPT>
Depression and Diabetes
By National Institute of Mental Health,
Working toward better understanding and treatment of Mental Illness
Government Organization
United States
National Institute of Mental Health
This article was provided by the National Institute of Mental Health
Depression can strike anyone, but people with diabetes, a serious disorder that
afflicts an estimated 16 million Americans, may be at greater risk...
Research shows that depression leads to poorer physical and mental functioning,
so a person is less likely to follow a required diet or medication plan.
Treating depression with psychotherapy, medication, or a combination of these
treatments can improve a patient's well-being...
Depression Facts
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed,
including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight changes
Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
If five or more of these symptoms are present every day for at least two weeks
and interfere with routine daily activities such as work, self-care, and
childcare or social life, seek an evaluation for depression...
Depression results from abnormal functioning of the brain... Other mental
disorders, such as bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness) and anxiety
disorders, may occur in people with diabetes, and they too can be effectively
treated. For more information about these and other mental illnesses, contact
NIMH...
<end>
BTW Patrick-- why are you spending so much time in alt.support.depression?
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This return from the above tells it all and shows how even other people see you
for what you are Patrick.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.depression/msg/4e384a58ff3cb947?fwc=1
Sender: pat...@eris.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Subject: Re: IF YOU CARVE YOUR PUMPKIN WITH A CHAINSAW
Date: 11 Oct 2005 00:53:05 -0500
Message-ID: <szky850...@eris.io.com>
((Maybe your depression is caused by your conscience trying to tell you that
your supporting infanticide and flaming "pro-lifers" is bad and you don't
recognize that your Nazi like personality toward the unborn is truly evil!))
You take out your frustrations and failures on other people Patrick and that is
not good. You need to take your meds, leave usenet, get a life, and perhaps your
psychotic sociopathic rude behavior will diminish.
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48e2adc73ff80f6c?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: PatrickPeepingStalker)
Sender: pat...@fnord.io.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Slander of Patrick L Humphrey resumes
From: Patrick Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2004 20:39:38 -0600
"Robert M." <rmark...@msn.com> writes:
>Hang in there Pat. The rest of the world is with you.
I'm not worried...how could I peep in a SECOND-STORY bathroom window?
(Despite Fatbury's delusions, I'm highly unlikely to ever be confused with
Superman.)
--
Notice that one Peeping Tom "was being treated for diabetes and a
mental disorder" not that diabetes produces Peeping Toms.
>You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
>by medication.
Are you his nurse? Do you know for a fact he doesn't mis-dose?
>Your psychoses obviously are completely immune from any sort of
>treatment.
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
>Sara
Tavish
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
>
>>In article <3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>,
>> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>> wrote:
>
>>[a whole lot of crap about diabetes and Patrick Humphrey deleted]
>
>>You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
>>by medication.
>
>>Your psychoses obviously are completely immune from any sort of
>>treatment.
>
>Too bad...he'd have to be housed at Rusk, if that's the case.
Stay away from sweets (Snowflake donuts) you Toeless Freak.
Tavish
>--
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>On 20 Mar 2006 07:35:13 -0800,
>><1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
>><br...@indystart.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his Type
>>>> 1 Diabetes:
>
>>> You whine when anyone tells where you live,
>
>>Because 1st) it's irrelevant, 2nd) where I live was discovered with a forged
>>subpoena issued on my ISP by an unethical shyster, and 3rd) losers like you
>>only post where I live in an attempt to intimidate me into silence which has
>>filed so far!!!
>
>Funny how your own mentor Don Ellis outed you...a fact that you'd rather kill
>yourself than admit.
That is still another lie you have been caught in. Yale F. Edeiken posted my
confidential info on the night of December 14, 1999 as "nazihunter" and Ken
McVay also had my address and telephone number at the same time which he
admitted came from Edeiken!! Care to deny it you Toeless Freak?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/93263479c9c0be6c?fwc=1
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken Admits Sending Death Threats Over The Internet is a
Federal Crime (Which He Has Done!) V3.0 U_0101
Message-ID: <fh3gr19kqo8jhoqgu...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Jan 2006 18:33:33 GMT
From this thread my address was proven to be distributed by Yale F. Edeiken:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_frm/thread/d689206af400ca53/a07715ed5da6f0bc#a07715ed5da6f0bc
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_Thread)
David Michael had posted message 68:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/1f2b0066dce1a9c9?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_DM)
From: David E Michael <david.e...@btinternet.com>
Subject: Straight questions for Edeiken
Date: 1999/12/16
Message-ID: <38592D72...@btinternet.com>
> The first lie from the lyiung cocksucker.
> McVay is not and has never been by "boss."
Did he or did he not appoint you to represent Nizkor in the Himmler challenge?
Yes or no, Mr Edeiken?
Given his public criticism of you, do you or do you not remain the legal
representative of Nizkor and/or McVay in the Himmler challenge? Yes or no, Mr
Edeiken?
Did you or did you not pass the address of Scott Bradbury to any third party?
Yes or no, Mr Edeiken?
David
~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
Kenneth McVay with message 69 in the same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/a07715ed5da6f0bc
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_1)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Subject: Re: Andrew spams again
Date: 1999/12/16
^^^^^^^^^^
<<Tavish comment: Notice that date!? It proves Yale had my info from my ISP on
that date!>>
Message-ID: <83bbpm$2jk4$1...@news.tht.net>
X-Trace: news.tht.net 945369718 85636 216.126.72.25 (16 Dec 1999 18:41:58 GMT)
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.revisionism
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
[...]
To be fair, one should also ask how nazihunter got the name and
address in the first place, shouldn't one?
Yale Edeiken distributed it to a holocaust-history.org mailing list,
and to a few, including me, outside the list. If you are going to
condemn nazihunter, as you properly are, then should you not also ask
what Yale hoped to achieve by distributing the address in the first
place?
I posted it on Nizkor for about 90 minutes, until I realized, on
reflection, that it was the wrong thing to do, and deleted it... so,
in the end, it could have come from anywhere... but it originated with
someone who should have known better, as he himself had been the
target of a similar attack.
[...]
If that is what you feel Mr. Edeiken meant to achieve, that is your
opinion, one I am not prepared to share.
However, I think it would have been hypocritical of me to remain silent,
all the while knowing where the information came from, while others were
being justifiably pilloried for making improper use of it.
Who is to be blamed more? The person wielding the weapon, or the one
who provided it? You tell me.
[Posted and emailed]
--
The Nizkor Project An Electronic Holocaust Education Resource
Ken McVay, Director http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
NetMeeting: Ken McVay ICQ: 7015822
~~~End of DejaCom Archival Excerpt~~~
John Morris exposed Ken McVay's lie: "I posted it on Nizkor for about 90
minutes" in this post (and new thread):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6dda5f2c795d01ae?
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_JM)
Subject: Re: Let's play "find the nazihunter"
Date: 1999/12/20
Message-ID: <j6rr5s0afoso1a6uv...@4ax.com>
<EXCERPTS>
In <83k3pt$240a$1...@news.tht.net> in alt.revisionism, on 20 Dec 1999
02:20:45 GMT, kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>Let's play a game.
Okay. Sounds like fun.
> and that "nazihunter" obtained his information from my
>system.
It is not altogether clear from your logs that Nazihunter obtained
his information from your system. Anybody who wants to check can see
that the first Usenet post of Scott Bradbury's address was
time-stamped 1:04 hrs after Yale's e-mail was sent. The mail was
sent at 17:10 EST and the information posted in Usenet at 18:14. The
first file access activity in your log--assuming it is complete--was
at 18:53 hrs 1:43 hrs after the e-mail was sent.
> - - [14/Dec/1999:18:53:10 -0500]
>"GET /ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott/references HTTP/1.0" 200 4387
>WorldLinx Telecommunications, Inc. (NETBLK-WORLDLINX-4)
> 160 Elgin Street, Floor 12
> Ottawa, Ontario K1G 3J4
We are now about 6:00 hrs after Yale's mailing.
>Then I think Mrs. Salzman took a look - she mentioned that she'd
>looked at it, so this is a pretty safe conclusion....
>207.155.169.190 - - [14/Dec/1999:23:34:11 -0500]
>"GET /ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott/references HTTP/1.0" 200 4345
>Concentric Research Corp. (NETBLK-CONCENTRIC-CIDR)
> 1400 Parkmoor Avenue
> San Jose, CA 95126-3429
> US
The IP traces to Colorado. There is one other concentric.net user
from Colorado on the mailing list besides the one you identified.
>207.16.154.57 - - [15/Dec/1999:01:12:56 -0500]
>"GET /ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott/references HTTP/1.1" 200 4364
>UUNET Technologies, Inc. (NETBLK-NETBLK-UUNETCBLK16)
>NETBLK-UUNETCBLK16 207.16.0.0 - 207.19.255.0
>EnterNet (NETBLK-UU-207-16-152-D1) UU-207-16-152-D1
> 207.16.152.0 - 207.16.159.255
>That would most likely be Mr. Edeiken himself....
>206.47.244.59 - - [15/Dec/1999:20:59:24 -0500]
>"GET /ftp.cgi/people/b/bradbury.scott/references HTTP/1.0" 200 5777
>WorldLinx Telecommunications, Inc. (NETBLK-WORLDLINX-4)
> 160 Elgin Street, Floor 12
> Ottawa, Ontario K1G 3J4
>Ottawa, again..... who do we know who posts from Ottawa....?
Goodness. We are now 27:49 hours into the story, and your own logs
show file access activity spanning more than 26 hours.
I'm having a wee small problem with your story, Ken. In Message-ID:
<839lhi$cdq$1...@news.tht.net>, you claimed that the file containing
Scott Bradbury's address and telephone number sat on your server for
a mere 90 minutes:
I posted it on Nizkor for about 90 minutes, until I realized,
on reflection, that it was the wrong thing to do, and deleted
it...
You could have been mistaken. Maybe you thought 26 hours was a
day-and-a-half, and you got that mixed up in your head as an
hour-and-a-half, and it came out as 90 minutes. You must have made
the same mistake again, because in Message-ID:
<83bkho$2ute$1...@news.tht.net> you said:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/28b90e1755442477?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_2a)
The Bradbury file was not added to the "What's New" page,
and there is no notifier on the "Latest Files" page, since
it can change from minute to minute throughout the day. In
addition to that, the cgi script that maintains the filesystem
only fires up 7 times per day, at 5 minutes past the hour. The
file could have sat there for an hour or two before it would
be listed.
To recap: No notification list.
Here you seem to be claiming that the file might not have been picked
up by your maintenance script for as long as two hours which suggests
again that you think the file was available for less than two hours.
But don't your own server logs show file access activity in excess of
26 HOURS? That your scripts would have picked it up 7 or 8 times?
That the damned file sat there for more than a full day?
Can you explain the discrepancy?
You've gone out of your way to cover your ass from the get-go. You
released information that you didn't have to release describing Yale
Edeiken as the source of the address information. You've pretended
that Scott Bradbury was just some kid in your killfile even though
you saw fit to create a web page that would materially damage Yale's
lawsuit just for the killfiled kid, Scott Bradbury.
<<Tavish comment: A lawsuit which Shyster Edeiken lost BTW!!!>>
~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpts~~
Still want to remain in denial about Edeiken being the one who made my address
and telephone number known you Toeless Freak?
>>>and now, you're exposing personal medical information on Patrick?
>
>>PUBLIC information which Patrick Lee Humphrey made public himself as in:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.htm
(Archived locally as: PLH_Diabetic_Crip)
Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
(Picture of Patrick with walking stick archived locally as: Chief_Crip)
Posting Name: Patrick Humphrey Type: Type-1
Real Name: Patrick Humphrey Dx Date: Nov. 1, 1969
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 49
Personal Comments: I'm sorry I didn't discover this newsgroup earlier. (The
pic is of me and Mrs. Chief at IAH welcoming our Aeros home after their Calder
Cup win in 2003. We're rabid hockey fans in Texas.)
--PLH, glad to find this place, even though I've been around Usenet since 1989
<end>
>Since you're so sure of that,
Did you or did you not make the above public information?
>you have no room to whine when the address Ellis made public information is posted.
BUT Ellis didn't do it and as anyone with an undamaged brain knows-- it was
Edeiken.
>You can't have it both ways, Baby Huey.
There aren't two different ways you Toeless Freak. Stop lying and stay away from
those sweets before you lose a foot or two due to eating too many Snowflake
donuts and mis-dosing!
Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/48f20bbf541f75f8?fwc=1
Subject: Patrick Lee Humphrey's Mental Problems May Be Due to His Type 1
Diabetes (Which Explains Why He Harasses People in alt.religion.scientology and
alt.revisionism)
Message-ID: <d5js125d058b7vah5...@4ax.com>
Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:57:18 GMT
>--
Herr Doktor Tavische
Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>
>>On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:15:09 GMT, <ht2v121kt6hbaiid6...@4ax.com>
>>Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>
>>>In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>> someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
>>> in message <6ouu125u83ncq9jd8...@4ax.com>:
>
>>>>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:07:08 -0700,
>>>><catamont-906352...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
>>>><cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>And Scott Bradbury's phone number reverse traces to Xxxxx, Xxxxxx
>
>>>>My phone number was unlisted and was only learned via a forged subpoena you fat
>>>>pig!
>
>>>... or showed up on her Caller ID when you called her to try to get
>>>her to appear on that talk show with you...
>
>>Only AFTER ther fact that Yale F. Edeiken posted it in the first place and if
>>he had not done such with my address and telephone number then I doubt very
>>seriously that I would have ever called Sara salzman. Care to deny the simple
>>fact now you bonehead?
>
>Somewhere in AT&T's database will be a record of a call you made to the sole
>listed number at my residence, a few years ago. Care to deny that?
So what? By that time everybody knew and everybody knew because of Yale!
Tavish
>
>--
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
> LAST GAME: San Antonio 1, Houston 0 (OT) (March 19)
> NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 23 at Omaha, 7:05
--
The Chief Instigator
>On 21 Mar 2006 08:57:18 -0600, <szkacbj...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>>>On 21 Mar 2006 00:48:23 -0600, <szku09s...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>>>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>>>There's a conspiracy afoot
>>>Speaking of afoot-- how are your feet doing? Have any more of either one of
>>>them whacked away? Stay away from those sweets!
>>They're in good enough shape to have gotten me from the Rivercenter Marriott
>>all the way to the west end of the Riverwalk and back in about 90 minutes,
>>last Saturday (allowing time for lunch at County Line)...and Dale's the one
>>with the cane.
>Caught you in yet another lie "Toeless." You are the one who uses a cane and a
>picture is worth a thousand words!
You're still a moronic Nazi, Fatbury...that picture is three years old. I
don't use a cane to get around any more.
>Picture of Patrick "The Crip" Humphrey and the ever Rotund Dale "The Donut
>Queen" Humphrey: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/images/gallery/chief.jpg
>Who has the cane Humpy? YOU!! Care to deny it now Toeless Freak? Your wife
>needs to stop gorging on all those Snowflake donuts too!
Funny, since we've never set foot in YOUR Holy of Holies.
>Remember Toeless Freak-- stay away from those sweets-- it may be a foot or two
>next go around!
I've still got two feet to kick you around, Nazi Coward of Bellville.
The Chief Instigator
>On 21 Mar 2006 00:43:34 -0600, <szk4q1s...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> writes:
>>>In article <3fju12tf35l1i0g40...@4ax.com>,
>>> Herr Doktor Tavische <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET>
>>> wrote:
>>>[a whole lot of crap about diabetes and Patrick Humphrey deleted]
>>>You know, Mr. Bradbury, Patrick may have diabetes, but it's controllable
>>>by medication.
>>>Your psychoses obviously are completely immune from any sort of
>>>treatment.
>>Too bad...he'd have to be housed at Rusk, if that's the case.
>Stay away from sweets (Snowflake donuts) you Toeless Freak.
Never have been there...but we've had a sandwich or two across the tracks from
your dump at Newman's Bakery. ;-)
The Chief Instigator
>On 21 Mar 2006 00:22:51 -0600, <szkfylc...@fnord.io.com> The Chief
>Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>R. Scott Bradbury <Doktor_...@TAVISCHE-GMBH-CENTRAL.NET> writes:
>>>On 20 Mar 2006 07:35:13 -0800,
>>><1142868913.3...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Joe Bruno"
>>><br...@indystart.com> wrote:
>>>>> Now for the psychological problems of Patrick Lee Humphrey due to his
>>>>> Type 1 Diabetes:
>>>> You whine when anyone tells where you live,
>>>Because 1st) it's irrelevant, 2nd) where I live was discovered with a forged
>>>subpoena issued on my ISP by an unethical shyster, and 3rd) losers like you
>>>only post where I live in an attempt to intimidate me into silence which has
>>>filed so far!!!
>>Funny how your own mentor Don Ellis outed you...a fact that you'd rather kill
>>yourself than admit.
>That is still another lie you have been caught in. Yale F. Edeiken posted my
>confidential info on the night of December 14, 1999 as "nazihunter" and Ken
>McVay also had my address and telephone number at the same time which he
>admitted came from Edeiken!! Care to deny it you Toeless Freak?
It's your fantasy, son.
chiefinstigator.us.tt/tavish.php - straight from His Fatness of Bellville's
mouth.
The Chief Instigator
So shut up and quit whining so long after that horse was out of the barn,
Moron Nazi.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Scott Bradbury on the Gentle Art of Debate:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LYING LITLLE SHIT BABY KILLER!!
>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: fhh7b0t3lj6bs848t...@4ax.com
>>>>>>>>><Snip>
>>>>>>>>>If you people would do to me - what you've done to him, I would do
>>>>>>>>>more than cuss you out!
>>>>>>>> And what about the things that he's done, hmmmn?
>>>>>>>What's he done?
>>>>>> Well, for example, he's posted what he tried to claimed was my home
>>>>>> address.
>>>>>He doesn't know where you live?
>>>> Obviously not.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, your lies to the contrary notwithstanding, neither do you.
So, what *was* your point?
>>>>>>>> By your "logic," wouldn't that justify what anyone else "does" to
>>>>>>>> him?
>>>He doesn't do anything to them.
>> You mean other than publish *their* home addresses and phone numbers,
>> along with that of their parents?
>>
>> Not to mention zir other threats and lies?
The idiot child "forgot" about this...
>>>>>>>Everyone has a right to revenge. Revenge is a God given right.
>>>>>> What was it your Lord and Saviour said about this?
>>>>>He would say: turn the other cheek, after that seek REVENGE!
>>>> Really? Where in the Scripture does He contradict Himself like that,
>>>> idiot child?
>>>He doesn't say what to do after your turn the other cheek.
>> ... strongly suggesting that that should be the end of it.
>No he doesn't.. Was Jesus not being vengeful when he went into the Synagogue
>and beat them with a whip?
Cite?
>> Certainly He never advocated revenge.
>He most certainly does... People like you who believe in hell believe you
>will see Gods wrath for your wicked ways..
Where did you get the idea that I believe in a literal Hell?
*What* "wicked ways?"
>>>That means revenge.
>> No, that is lie.
>No its not..
Is that what they taught you in church?
>> But then what can one expect form someone that thought the Bible
>> advocated prostitution?
>My mistake...
Not the first, nor the last.
>> Here, let me try to point out the idiocy you're spouting in terms even
>> *you* will understand:
>>
>> If you "do" something to me, and I "do" something to you to take
>> revenge, then you get to "do" something back for revenge, then I get
>> to "do" something back, then you get to "do" something back for
>> revenge, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to "do"
>> something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to
>> "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get
>> to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you
>> get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then
>> you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back,
>> then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something
>> back, then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do"
>> something back, then ...
>>
>> Do you begin to see the problem?
>Eventually someone will give up.
Then what was the point of everything that came before?
>>>I might also point out that in your Torah it says an eye for an
>>>eye.
>> Since when do *I* have a Torah?
>Are you saying you don't own a bible?
Ah, so you're saying that in *your* copy the above passage doesn't
exist?
>>>So, you people also believe in revenge.
>> No, my people do not.
>Yes they do.
Given that you have no idea who "my people" are, you have no way of
knowing other than my telling you.
And I tell you, no we don't.
>Look at what Israel has done to the Pals.
Which applies to me or my people .. why?
>A Palie kills a
>squatter living on stolen land, Israel uses Apache helicopters and F-16's
>to retaliate.
Of course, you cannot actually *document* this having happened, but
once again: even if you could, why do you pretend this says anything
about me or my people?
>>>>>>>>>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his
>>>>>>>>>windows, forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged
>>>>>>>>>post.. And you have to ask why he cusses you people out?
>>>>>>>> You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
>>>>>>>I've seen the child porn add posted in his name.
>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>>>What proof do you have they didn't.
>> It doesn't work that way, idiot child: *you* made the claim, *you*
>> support it.
>The Don Ellis, yes?
Possibly someone posting under that nym.
And yet, the morbidly obese Shame of Belleville, NV doesn't attack
zie.
Funny, that...
>>>>>Who else would do it?
>>>> Ah, so you *don't* have any proof that anyone here has done this.
>>>Nor can you prove the didn't.
>> Sure I can:
>>
>> Did anyone here do any of these things?
>>
>> <silence>
>I thought you pal Don Ellis did it.
don ellis is no pal of mine -- why are you lying about that?
>> Nope, no one piped up: guess no one here did any of those things.
>>
>> Got anything other than baby tantrums to support your assertion that
>> anyone here *did*?
>Do you deny that Ellis is mean?
LOL -- "mean?"
Do you deny that blubberbutt does *not* attack ellis the way zie
attacks Sara, for example?
>>>> So what does that do to your "justification" for blubberbury's
>>>> behaviour?
>>>>>>>He said you people broke his window out,
>>>>>> He says a *lot* of things with no relation to the truth, just like
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>>>>>Who else would do it?
>>>> Some random kid like yourself who has not been taught any better?
>>>I don't break windows or do stupid shit like that.
>> Actually, you have admitted to doing stupid sh*t, idiot child.
>Nope.
Yes -- I'd go back and demonstrate it, but you'd just run away like
you do every time your idiocy is spelled out in your own words.
>> Hell -- you've *bragged* about it, and gotten upset when everyone
>> doesn't jump up to tell you how cool you are for doing them.
>Wrong again...
Nope.
><snip ad hom>
It's not an ad him if it is true, and *you* brought the topic up:
<restore>
And besides, given your history of lies, why should anyone believe
that you *don't*?
</restore>
>> Can you *prove* that it wasn't you doing all these things?
Well?
>>>>>>>I believe him.
>>>>>> Of course you do: he's hater like you.
>>>There you go calling people haters again.
>> Only when they are...
>I'm going to address this very point at the bottom of this post.
I can't wait.
Is it going to be at the same level that you addressed my refutation
of your crap about Moed Kattan 17a?
>>>>>Yeah, anyone who tells the truth about YOU PEOPLE are labled as HATERS.
>>>> Which "you people" are you pretending I am part of *this* time?
>>>My I call you Kazer?
>> No, you *may* not.
>Why not?
>> Why would you even *want* to call me by a name that is not mine?
>You call me names.
No, I refer to you by descriptive terms you have proven over and over
are accurate.
>>>>>Strong men and women don't cower at mere labels.
>>>> You mean like the way you whine at Sara for pointing out that you are
>>>> an ignorant lying little baby?
>>>I ignore the ad hom attacks by you people.
>> No, you very recently whined about it, and not for the first time
>> either.
So why are you lying about it?
>>>>>>>Look at Zundel, his house was fire bombed.
>>>>>> And there is good reason to believe he did it himself.
>>>>>Could you be any more diluted?
>>>> Since I do not dissolve in any liquids I have yet encountered, yes I
>>>> could be more dilute that I current am.
>>>Doubtful.
>> ... and it goes right over the idiot child's head.
>Your sarcasm was noted..
But you *still* don't understand why.
>>>> Meanwhile, you really should research that firebombing on other than
>>>> your usual hater sites -- there are several ... suggestive elements
>>>> to the whole thing.
>>>I have, it looks like the terrorist Irv Ruben did it.
>> Really? You have a *reliable* citation to a non hater site making
>> this claim?
>No,
Ah, so it *was* more of your usual hater sources.
>but they did find out the he was in Canada during the terrorist attack
>on Zundel.
No, they didn't.
Once again: have you a *reliable* citation to a non hater site
making this claim?
>Did you do what I ask you to do Google JDL+Terrorism?
Since it was not relevant to anything in this discussion unless you
can demonstrate the JDL posting here, I saw no need.
>>>Zundel has yet to get revenge for that.
>> Mostly because zie knows better.
>You expect him to just forget about it?
No, zie will always remember that setting that fire zirself didn't
cause any problems for anyone else.
>>>Terrorist also bombed the IHR if I'm not mistaken.
>> Which you usually are.
>>
>> Someone torched the offices of the THHP -- for what was *that*
>> revenge?
>I doubt it had anything to do with revenge.. As far as I know the THHP
>didn't bother anyone nor are the associated with the JDL.
Then why was the IHR a "terrorist" attack, and THHP not?
>>>>>>>Google JDL+Terrorism, look at all of the terrorist acts they
>>>>>>>perpetrated against Gentiles.
>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
>>>No.
>> Then why do you lie that this justifies blubberbutt's behaviour?
Well?
>>>>>Who else would do it?
>>>> Terrorists, obviously.
>>>We agree.
>>>> Have you any *proof* that any such post here?
>>>No...
>> So, your lame justification for lard ass' behaviour is shown to be no
>> more factual than most of your posts.
>I don't know who done it, but you do..
Really? What proof do you offer that I have any particular knowledge
of any "attacks" by the JDL ?
>>>>>>>>>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child porn
>>>>>>>>>adds in your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if someone
>>>>>>>>>would throw rocks threw your window?
>>>>>>>> What if someone forged a death threat against the President in your
>>>>>>>> name?
>>>>>>>I guess I would go to jail if the forgery was done right.
>>>>>> No, actually you wouldn't.
>>>If it was sent via your computer, and your were shown be home that day -
>>>chances are they would nail ya.
>> And of course, you're assuming facts not in evidence.
>What part of circumstantial evidence do you not under stand?
Which part of you making up evidence as you go along in a lame attempt
to prop up an idiot assertion don't you?
>>>>>Sure you would.....
>>>> No, you wouldn't idiot child.
>>>Depends on the jury.
>> No, it doesn't -- the investigation wouldn't get that far.
>Speculation noted.
It's not speculation, idiot child: the forgery actually happened, and
Sara did *not* spend any time in jail.
Unlike you, I'm not making it up as I go along.
>>>>>If your computer was hacked.
>>>> You claim that having your computer hacked would send you to jail?
>>>>
>>>> Do tell...
>>>If a hacker gains controll over your computer and sends a threat out to
>>>the Prez, you hit in the mouth.
>> Nope.
>You would have to prove you've been hacked..
Nope -- that would be done for the average citizen.
>Remember that German virus writer that got busted?
Citation.
>He tried to use the defense that his box was hacked
>and the hacker left the code on his computer.. That defense didn't work.
Mostly because it is a figment of your imagination.
>>>>>The hacker would send out
>>>>>this -email / post via your computer.
>>>> Because, of course, hacking someone's computer is the only way to
>>>> accomplish such a forgery.
>>>If the intent of the person doing the forging wanted to send you to jail,
>>>yes..
>> Who has said anything about the *intent*? What if the intent was to
>> harass?
>Doing stuff like that goes far beyond harassment.
No, it doesn't.
>The obvious intent was to
>have someone sent to jail.. Sara said someone even done that her.
Yes -- and did she go to jail, idiot child?
>>>You could use a re-mailer and forge someones name, but that would
>>>hold no water.
>> Which is not the only other way, either.
>Only and idiot would forge his own header and make such a threat..
Who said anything about anyone forging their *own* headers?
>>>I bet they would still pay you a visit - but it wouldn't go
>>>anywhere in court because they couldn't prove who sent the mail.
>> Now you're starting to get why your blanket assertion that the target
>> would absolutely go to jail.
>It does carry jail time..
And yet, it didn't.
>>>>>The Secret Service kicks the door
>>>>>down takes your computer and sees that the post/mail was sent via your
>>>>>computer... And you go to jail.
>>>> No, you go down to the Boston field office, which in spite of your
>>>> lies is *not* run by a Jooo, and explain that you didn't send it, and
>>>> offer your alibi proving you were elsewhere when it was sent.
>>>And if you were home?
>> Read on.
>>>> If you're a normal citizen with no other history of such threats and
>>>> no other obvious clues that you intended to carry out that threat, you
>>>> are then sent home with a couple of agents in attendance while your
>>>> computer is gone over more carefully.
>>>They better have a warrant.
>> Ummm -- if they've taken you in for questioning on this matter, the
>> warrant was executed at the same time, idiot child.
>Not necessarily.
Yes, in this instance, necessarily.
>They can take you in for questioning without placing you
>under arrest.
They can, but if they have *proof* that *you* made the threat, they
will.
>Some people are stupid enough to talk to them without a
>lawyer. Check out the book called *We Get Confessions* You NEVER ever talk
>to the cops or the FBI.
It certainly not a good idea if you are doing something illegal...
>If they come to your house and say: Can we ask you
>a few questions, You say: do you have a warrent for my arrest? if they so
>no. you nicely ask them to leave and close the door..
And then they go and *get* the warrant, and then you get to explain
why you didn't cooperate up front.
Is that how you handled the FBI when they came calling?
>>>> They call in someone like me to do this, who discovers the script
>>>> kiddy such as yourself isn't capable of covering their tracks and so
>>>> it is likely that the threat *didn't* originate with the normal
>>>> citizen.
>>>Lol...... You think you could stick some sam7 boot disk into my computer
>>>and change the password like you do on a windows box? Of course you do.
>> Irrelevant to the topic in question, but yes: if I have physical
>> access to a computer, I own it almost that easily.
>A windows computer, yes..
*Any* microcomputer.
>>>Even if you did get my encryption has, I don't use those lame md5 ciphers,
>>>I use blowfish.
>> And you just keep right on thinking that that makes your crap safe: it
>> makes me look that much better when I get called in and have started
>> the printout before they're done questioning you.
>Bwhahahahaha They ain't going to question me about nothing. If they did, I
>would ask them if they have a warrent, if not - I ask them to leave.. I
>HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. If they do arrest me, I STILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, and
>tell them to talk to my lawyer. I know my rights...
And then they take your computer again, and call me in -- and if
*that's* all you got, then the printout starts before they even get
done processing you in.
>>>>>I think
>>>> No, you don't.
>>>Yes I do..
>> Not very well.
>Very well.
All evidence to the contrary?
>>>>>they can give you 5-years for making threats against the Prez.
>>>> But are, of course, too stupid to actually find out.
>>>Nonetheless, you go to jail for a long time.
>> 5 years is tinker toy time, idiot child.
>Yeah, right.. I hear they rape you and all kinds of stuff in prison..
You "hear" a *lot* of thing that aren't necessarily so, idiot child.
>>>>>You
>>>>>would have to prove you've been hacked, how would you do that if the
>>>>>hacker run a one shot deal, and left no rootkits on your computer?
>>>> There are many ways to detect such an incursion --
>>>I'm an guru when it comes to security and intrusion detection.
>> Suuuuuuure you are.
>>
>> That's why you were *just* whining about your inability to do your
>> firewall properly.
>Not only is PF the most secure firewall in the world,
Because you say so? you can't even get it working.
>its also the most difficult to write rules for..
... exposing once again your lack of any real experience.
>I use PF, but configuring tables withing the
>firewall is a whole different animal. I'm learning it though.
But see: a "guru" is one that teaches others -- if you can't do it
yourself, how are you going to do that?
>>>> you'll pardon me if
>>>> I insist you remain ignorant of the finer details since I cannot trust
>>>> you to act responsibly with such information.
>>>So you're capable of finding a rootkit on windows are ya?
>> That's trivial.
>So you agree, you must reinstall.
No, that statement says nothing about needing to reinstall to *find*
the rooter.
>>>How would that be
>>>possible, the O/S is made up of millions of lines of code.
>> ... which just shows that you don't even know where to begin looking.
>Me you or anynone else for that matter.
Don't project your ignorance on the rest of the world, idiot child.
>>>Yeah, you could
>>>look for kernel hooks and if they are detected how are you going find the
>>>rootkit? Do tell... Anyone will tell you that if you are rooted you need
>>>to reinstall.
>> A good piece of advice if you allow yourself to be rooted -- who knows
>> what other errors you've made.
>This is true.. On Fox they were taking about a guy who got busted for
>rooting hundreds of windows computers. He was selling these Zombies to
>spamers etc. One of the rooted computers belonged to in I.T. professional.
>>>Finding rootkits on Nix is easy. I use a program called tripwire. It
>>>creates a encrypted database of your system. Any changes, no matter how
>>>slight will show up when you check the database against your current
>>>system. Before you install a program, you run tripwire to make sure
>>>nothing has been changed added etc. Install your program and update
>>>tripwire to reflect whats current. Simple isn't it.. Don't know why anyone
>>>hasn't written such a program for windows..
>> They have.
>What's it called, I will put it on my sisters computer..
There are several options -- I usually charge for this sort of thing,
but I'll tell you what: you stop running from discussing your lies,
and I'll comp you.
Deal?
BTW, how did mommie afford to buy TripWire for you?
>> And the above doesn't help if someone re-writes that database.
>The database is encrypted.
Which only makes it a little harder.
>Other programs like Yafic and AIDE allow you to
>move the database to a disk/cd rom.
Irrelevant to getting into a given box.
>> Nor does it address how one would *still* own the box, given physical
>> access.
>You have complete control.
That's right -- I would have.
That's been my point.
>Now about you calling people haters.....
This is going to be fun.
>Harvard done a study about foreign policy and who makes it.. I've told you
>why Americans are dieing everyday in Iraq and soon to be Iran. Jews were
>are behind these wars, David Duke said, Strom and numerous others have said
>it, and they were called haters by people like you....
Once again, you cannot address what *I* say, and so you have to lump
me in with some other group and try to criticize *that*.
And BTW, "Jews" were not primarily behind Iraq, and duke et. al. *are*
haters -- not for saying *this* but for all the things they have said
taken as a whole.
>Now Harvard comes out and backs up everything myself and others have been
>saying.. Are the guys at Harvard haters for stating the obvious??
Well, since your claim that Harvard "backs up everything" you've been
saying is ... optimistic at best.
You make the same error here that you often do: "Harvard" is *not*
cited in this article at all. A single professor from Harvard,
speaking for no one but himself, is. As is a professor from the
University of Chicago, but in your world that one doesn't count.
In addition, these two individuals don't base any conclusions on
"that's what Jews do" which is the entirety of what little case you
have on this.
They also do not make your other consistent error and conflate the
Israeli lobby (which is their *real* topic) and "Jews."
Finally, I have not read the entire paper these gentlemen have
written, but in this article, it appears that they are also begging
their own question:
<quote>
If Washington could live with a nuclear Soviet Union, a nuclear China
or even a nuclear North Korea, it can live with a nuclear Iran. And
that is why the Lobby must keep up constant pressure on politicians to
confront Tehran.
</quote>
Because, of course, the *only* reason to fear a nuclear Iran is
because of the threat to Israel.
Not to mention that they even acknowledge that the threat to Israel
from Iran is far greater than that which existed from Iraq -- and yet,
it was the latter we attacked.
Does the Israeli lobby impact US policy? That's their job, and they
do it well.
Is that impact such that it is detrimental to the best interests of
the US? That case is harder to make -- and nothing *you've* said on
the matter suggests that this is the case.
Nor does any of this address *my* use of the term, and the fact that
the only ones I call haters demonstrably are.
<snip copyright violation>
>http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060320-124726-1902r
>Roger you may be an okay guy if I could turn you from a NeoCon to a
>Libertarian such as myself..
But given that I'm not a neocon to begin with, you've once again let
your fantasies of knowing anything at all about my personal life make
a fool of you.
>Want me to tell you how to be a Libertarian?
It might be amuzing to read what you think a Libertarian is.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>127.0.0.1 wrote:
>
>You may get a laugh out of this... Even Black Farrakhan has figured it
>out...
No, what's funny is that now you cite farrakhan as authoritative, when
it suits your purpose.
BTW, is there a *white* farrakhan?
Sara Salzman
"127.0.0.1" <127....@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> Roger wrote:
>
> > In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> > someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
> > in message <1227047.AzEmlzR454@FreeBSD>:
> >
>
> >>>>>>>>Everyone has a right to revenge. Revenge is a God given right.
> >
> >>>>>>> What was it your Lord and Saviour said about this?
> >
> >>>>>>He would say: turn the other cheek, after that seek REVENGE!
> >
> >>>>> Really? Where in the Scripture does He contradict Himself like that,
> >>>>> idiot child?
> >
> >>>>He doesn't say what to do after your turn the other cheek.
> >
> >>> ... strongly suggesting that that should be the end of it.
> >
> >>No he doesn't.. Was Jesus not being vengeful when he went into the
> >>Synagogue and beat them with a whip?
> >
> > Cite?
>
>
> http://www.all-creatures.org/hr/hra-money.htm
>
> >>> Certainly He never advocated revenge.
> >
> >>He most certainly does... People like you who believe in hell believe you
> >>will see Gods wrath for your wicked ways..
> >
> > Where did you get the idea that I believe in a literal Hell?
>
>
> It would certainly seem that way.
>
> > *What* "wicked ways?"
>
>
> You're mischievous, you call other names, etc.
>
> >>>>That means revenge.
> >
> >>> No, that is lie.
> >
> >>No its not..
> >
> > Is that what they taught you in church?
>
> I stopped going.
>
> >>> But then what can one expect form someone that thought the Bible
> >>> advocated prostitution?
> >
> >>My mistake...
> >
> > Not the first, nor the last.
>
>
> Yeah, you're Mr. Perfect. Never made a mistake have you Roger? Where does
> this God Complex you have come from?
>
>
> >>> Here, let me try to point out the idiocy you're spouting in terms even
> >>> *you* will understand:
> >>>
> >>> If you "do" something to me, and I "do" something to you to take
> >>> revenge, then you get to "do" something back for revenge, then I get
> >>> to "do" something back, then you get to "do" something back for
> >>> revenge, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to "do"
> >>> something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get to
> >>> "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you get
> >>> to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then you
> >>> get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back, then
> >>> you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something back,
> >>> then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do" something
> >>> back, then you get to "do" something back, then I get to "do"
> >>> something back, then ...
> >>>
> >>> Do you begin to see the problem?
> >
> >>Eventually someone will give up.
> >
> > Then what was the point of everything that came before?
>
> One a winner the other is a looser.
>
> >>>>I might also point out that in your Torah it says an eye for an
> >>>>eye.
> >
> >>> Since when do *I* have a Torah?
> >
> >>Are you saying you don't own a bible?
> >
> > Ah, so you're saying that in *your* copy the above passage doesn't
> > exist?
>
>
> An eye for an eye does exist.
>
> >>>>So, you people also believe in revenge.
> >
> >>> No, my people do not.
> >
> >>Yes they do.
> >
> > Given that you have no idea who "my people" are, you have no way of
> > knowing other than my telling you.
> >
> > And I tell you, no we don't.
> >
> >>Look at what Israel has done to the Pals.
> >
> > Which applies to me or my people .. why?
>
>
> Most of you people support Israel...
>
> >>A Palie kills a
> >>squatter living on stolen land, Israel uses Apache helicopters and F-16's
> >>to retaliate.
> >
> > Of course, you cannot actually *document* this having happened, but
> > once again: even if you could, why do you pretend this says anything
> > about me or my people?
>
> http://compuserb.com/israel/
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>Look at what you people have done to the man: Breaking out his
> >>>>>>>>>>windows, forging child porn adds, taking one to court using forged
> >>>>>>>>>>post.. And you have to ask why he cusses you people out?
> >
> >>>>>>>>> You have proof that anyone here has done any of these things?
> >
> >>>>>>>>I've seen the child porn add posted in his name.
> >
> >>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
> >
> >>>>What proof do you have they didn't.
> >
> >>> It doesn't work that way, idiot child: *you* made the claim, *you*
> >>> support it.
> >
> >>The Don Ellis, yes?
> >
> > Possibly someone posting under that nym.
>
>
> So I was right..
>
> > And yet, the morbidly obese Shame of Belleville, NV doesn't attack
> > zie.
>
>
> Maybe he doesn't know him..
>
> > Funny, that...
> >
> >>>>>>Who else would do it?
> >
> >>>>> Ah, so you *don't* have any proof that anyone here has done this.
> >
> >>>>Nor can you prove the didn't.
> >
> >>> Sure I can:
> >>>
> >>> Did anyone here do any of these things?
> >>>
> >>> <silence>
> >
> >>I thought you pal Don Ellis did it.
> >
> > don ellis is no pal of mine -- why are you lying about that?
>
>
> You would be the type, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.. He would be your
> Pal because he flames those you don't like.
>
> >>> Nope, no one piped up: guess no one here did any of those things.
> >>>
> >>> Got anything other than baby tantrums to support your assertion that
> >>> anyone here *did*?
> >
> >>Do you deny that Ellis is mean?
> >
> > LOL -- "mean?"
>
>
> Yeah, I guess you think he's a nice guy.
>
>
> > Do you deny that blubberbutt does *not* attack ellis the way zie
> > attacks Sara, for example?
>
>
> Does he know who Ellis is?
Of course he does, little baby. Everyone knows who Don Ellis is. He is
Don Ellis of Star City, Arkansas. He's the same Don Ellis who was sued
by Hatewatch.org for using the urls hatewatch.com and hatewatch.net.
He's the same Don Ellis, who, in the guise of being "offended" by gay
pornography, posted some of the most vile images on the web, and made
sure that there was NO protection against minors viewing it.
You're the only moron who doesn't know who Don Ellis is.
>
> >>>>> So what does that do to your "justification" for blubberbury's
> >>>>> behaviour?
>
>
> I don't.. Posting personal info on both sides is wrong.
>
But you have never attacked Bradbury for doing it. In fact, you have
JUSTIFIED Bradbury's doing it, and have DEFENDED him for doing it.
Why the double standard?
> >>>>>>>>He said you people broke his window out,
> >
> >>>>>>> He says a *lot* of things with no relation to the truth, just like
> >>>>>>> you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
> >
> >>>>>>Who else would do it?
> >
> >>>>> Some random kid like yourself who has not been taught any better?
> >
> >>>>I don't break windows or do stupid shit like that.
> >
> >>> Actually, you have admitted to doing stupid sh*t, idiot child.
> >
> >>Nope.
> >
> > Yes -- I'd go back and demonstrate it, but you'd just run away like
> > you do every time your idiocy is spelled out in your own words.
>
> wrong
Nice try at changing the subject. The question was "Who broke Scott
Bradbury's window?" You have absolutely no proof that anyone from
alt.revisionism had anything to do with it. If Bradbury is as
anti-social and vile to his neighbors as he is here, there may be
hundreds of people in Bellville who would want to break his window. The
world isn't only alt.revisionism, little baby. As we've seen here
recently, there are folks in other Usenet groups who don't like him any
more than we do here. Maybe one of "them" did it?
So where is the proof that anyone here broke Scott Bradbury's window?
Hmm? Where is the police record?
>
> >>> Hell -- you've *bragged* about it, and gotten upset when everyone
> >>> doesn't jump up to tell you how cool you are for doing them.
> >
> >>Wrong again...
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> >><snip ad hom>
> >
> > It's not an ad him if it is true, and *you* brought the topic up:
> >
> > <restore>
>
> Yes it is...
>
> > And besides, given your history of lies, why should anyone believe
> > that you *don't*?
> >
> > </restore>
> >
> >>> Can you *prove* that it wasn't you doing all these things?
> >
> > Well?
>
> Doing what things?
>
> >>>>>>>>I believe him.
> >
> >>>>>>> Of course you do: he's hater like you.
> >
> >>>>There you go calling people haters again.
> >
> >>> Only when they are...
> >
> >>I'm going to address this very point at the bottom of this post.
> >
> > I can't wait.
> >
> > Is it going to be at the same level that you addressed my refutation
> > of your crap about Moed Kattan 17a?
> >
> >>>>>>Yeah, anyone who tells the truth about YOU PEOPLE are labled as
> >>>>>>HATERS.
> >
> >>>>> Which "you people" are you pretending I am part of *this* time?
> >
> >>>>My I call you Kazer?
> >
> >>> No, you *may* not.
> >
> >>Why not?
> >
> >>> Why would you even *want* to call me by a name that is not mine?
> >
> >>You call me names.
> >
> > No, I refer to you by descriptive terms you have proven over and over
> > are accurate.
>
>
> By your logic, When you act like a Shabbos Goy, its ok to call you that.
You don't even KNOW what a Shabbos Goy is, do you? If you did, you
wouldn't be calling him "Joo Roger," would you?
>
> >>>>>>Strong men and women don't cower at mere labels.
> >
> >>>>> You mean like the way you whine at Sara for pointing out that you are
> >>>>> an ignorant lying little baby?
> >
> >>>>I ignore the ad hom attacks by you people.
> >
> >>> No, you very recently whined about it, and not for the first time
> >>> either.
> >
> > So why are you lying about it?
>
>
> Your projection your behavior on me... Don't do that anymore.
The above sentence doesn't make any sense, little Baby. Your behavior is
evident here for everyone to see.
>
> >>>>>>>>Look at Zundel, his house was fire bombed.
> >
> >>>>>>> And there is good reason to believe he did it himself.
> >
> >>>>>>Could you be any more diluted?
> >
> >>>>> Since I do not dissolve in any liquids I have yet encountered, yes I
> >>>>> could be more dilute that I current am.
> >
> >>>>Doubtful.
> >
> >>> ... and it goes right over the idiot child's head.
> >
> >>Your sarcasm was noted..
> >
> > But you *still* don't understand why.
>
>
> Understand that I'm right.
Only becauase you're too ignorant to see what Roger's point was, little
baby. DILUTE and DELUDE are two different words, ignorant one.
>
> >>>>> Meanwhile, you really should research that firebombing on other than
> >>>>> your usual hater sites -- there are several ... suggestive elements
> >>>>> to the whole thing.
> >
> >>>>I have, it looks like the terrorist Irv Ruben did it.
> >
> >>> Really? You have a *reliable* citation to a non hater site making
> >>> this claim?
> >
> >>No,
> >
> > Ah, so it *was* more of your usual hater sources.
>
>
> You call anyone who questions the Jewish version of WW-ll a hater, you call
> people who point out these Zionist NeoCon wars haters. Zundel didn't
> believe the Jews version of WW-ll, why does that make him a hater?
What makes Zundel a hater is that he hates Jews, and has said so on many
occasions. Maybe you ought to read "The Hitler We Love and Why."
>
> >>but they did find out the he was in Canada during the terrorist attack
> >>on Zundel.
> >
> > No, they didn't.
> >
> > Once again: have you a *reliable* citation to a non hater site
> > making this claim?
>
>
> Read it somewhere..
That is one of the more idiotic things you've said this week.
>
> >>Did you do what I ask you to do Google JDL+Terrorism?
> >
> > Since it was not relevant to anything in this discussion unless you
> > can demonstrate the JDL posting here, I saw no need.
>
>
> You should do what I ask... It is relevant because we are talking about the
> firebombing of Zundel's home.
Why not read what Canadian law enforcement says about it instead of what
some loony right-wing conspiracy group says?
>
> >>>>Zundel has yet to get revenge for that.
> >
> >>> Mostly because zie knows better.
> >
> >>You expect him to just forget about it?
> >
> > No, zie will always remember that setting that fire zirself didn't
> > cause any problems for anyone else.
>
>
> Where did this come from, some Jewish hate website?
Maybe he "read it somewhere," Baby.
>
> >>>>Terrorist also bombed the IHR if I'm not mistaken.
> >
> >>> Which you usually are.
> >>>
> >>> Someone torched the offices of the THHP -- for what was *that*
> >>> revenge?
> >
> >>I doubt it had anything to do with revenge.. As far as I know the THHP
> >>didn't bother anyone nor are the associated with the JDL.
> >
> > Then why was the IHR a "terrorist" attack, and THHP not?
>
>
> Do you have proof what happend at the THHP wasn't an inside job? If some
> idiot did try and burn it down, that person should be considered a
> terrorist, because he/she is trying to infringe upon the speech rights of
> others. They have a right to say anything they want, so does Zundel and
> others.
Yes, I know it was not an inside job. Next question?
>
> >>>>>>>>Google JDL+Terrorism, look at all of the terrorist acts they
> >>>>>>>>perpetrated against Gentiles.
> >
> >>>>>>> You have proof that ***anyone here*** has done this?
> >
> >>>>No.
> >
> >>> Then why do you lie that this justifies blubberbutt's behaviour?
> >
> > Well?
> >
> >>>>>>Who else would do it?
> >
> >>>>> Terrorists, obviously.
> >
> >>>>We agree.
> >
> >>>>> Have you any *proof* that any such post here?
> >
> >>>>No...
> >
> >>> So, your lame justification for lard ass' behaviour is shown to be no
> >>> more factual than most of your posts.
> >
> >>I don't know who done it, but you do..
> >
> > Really? What proof do you offer that I have any particular knowledge
> > of any "attacks" by the JDL ?
>
>
> Roger are you a member of the JDL?
Idiotic strawman. Why would Roger be a member of the JDL when he's not
even Jewish?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>Think about it Sara: What would you do if someone forged child
> >>>>>>>>>>porn adds in your name - and the FBI pays you a visit, what if
> >>>>>>>>>>someone would throw rocks threw your window?
> >
> >>>>>>>>> What if someone forged a death threat against the President in
> >>>>>>>>> your name?
> >
> >>>>>>>>I guess I would go to jail if the forgery was done right.
> >
> >>>>>>> No, actually you wouldn't.
> >
> >>>>If it was sent via your computer, and your were shown be home that day -
> >>>>chances are they would nail ya.
> >
> >>> And of course, you're assuming facts not in evidence.
> >
> >>What part of circumstantial evidence do you not under stand?
> >
> > Which part of you making up evidence as you go along in a lame attempt
> > to prop up an idiot assertion don't you?
>
> So, no one has been sent to jail on circumstantial evidence?
Another strawman. You haven't addressed the simple question: You think
what was done to Bradbury is bad, and what has been done to the rest of
us is okay. Why?
>
> >>>>>>Sure you would.....
> >
> >>>>> No, you wouldn't idiot child.
> >
> >>>>Depends on the jury.
> >
> >>> No, it doesn't -- the investigation wouldn't get that far.
> >
> >>Speculation noted.
> >
> > It's not speculation, idiot child: the forgery actually happened, and
> > Sara did *not* spend any time in jail.
> >
> > Unlike you, I'm not making it up as I go along.
>
> Nor am I..
>
> >>>>>>If your computer was hacked.
> >
> >>>>> You claim that having your computer hacked would send you to jail?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do tell...
> >
> >>>>If a hacker gains controll over your computer and sends a threat out to
> >>>>the Prez, you hit in the mouth.
> >
> >>> Nope.
> >
> >>You would have to prove you've been hacked..
> >
> > Nope -- that would be done for the average citizen.
> >
> >>Remember that German virus writer that got busted?
> >
> > Citation.
>
> Read about it... google it if you want.
>
> >>He tried to use the defense that his box was hacked
> >>and the hacker left the code on his computer.. That defense didn't work.
> >
> > Mostly because it is a figment of your imagination.
>
>
> No its not.
>
> >>>>>>The hacker would send out
> >>>>>>this -email / post via your computer.
> >
> >>>>> Because, of course, hacking someone's computer is the only way to
> >>>>> accomplish such a forgery.
> >
> >>>>If the intent of the person doing the forging wanted to send you to
> >>>>jail, yes..
> >
> >>> Who has said anything about the *intent*? What if the intent was to
> >>> harass?
> >
> >>Doing stuff like that goes far beyond harassment.
> >
> > No, it doesn't.
> >
> >>The obvious intent was to
> >>have someone sent to jail.. Sara said someone even done that her.
> >
> > Yes -- and did she go to jail, idiot child?
>
>
> She's lucky..
>
> >>>>You could use a re-mailer and forge someones name, but that would
> >>>>hold no water.
> >
> >>> Which is not the only other way, either.
>
>
> That or a re-mailer, of hack the box and send it out from the victims
> computer..
>
> >>Only and idiot would forge his own header and make such a threat..
> >
> > Who said anything about anyone forging their *own* headers?
>
> That stuff with Sara happend before I came to a.r. I didn't see the post.
> Obviously the header was forged or a re-mailer used.
>
> >>>>I bet they would still pay you a visit - but it wouldn't go
> >>>>anywhere in court because they couldn't prove who sent the mail.
> >
> >>> Now you're starting to get why your blanket assertion that the target
> >>> would absolutely go to jail.
> >
> >>It does carry jail time..
> >
> > And yet, it didn't.
>
> Because the investigation revealed that she didn't do it.
> You NEVER EVER TALK TO THEM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE regardless of you've done
> anything wrong or not.
>
> >>If they come to your house and say: Can we ask you
> >>a few questions, You say: do you have a warrent for my arrest? if they so
> >>no. you nicely ask them to leave and close the door..
> >
> > And then they go and *get* the warrant,
>
> Let them go get one.. If they had any hard evidence they would come with a
> warrent in the first place. Duh.
>
> > and then you get to explain
> > why you didn't cooperate up front.
>
> Yeah, sorry judge, I exercised my *right* TO REMAIN SILENT.
>
> > Is that how you handled the FBI when they came calling?
>
> I don't want to talk about it....
>
> >>>>> They call in someone like me to do this, who discovers the script
> >>>>> kiddy such as yourself isn't capable of covering their tracks and so
> >>>>> it is likely that the threat *didn't* originate with the normal
> >>>>> citizen.
> >
> >>>>Lol...... You think you could stick some sam7 boot disk into my computer
> >>>>and change the password like you do on a windows box? Of course you do.
> >
> >>> Irrelevant to the topic in question, but yes: if I have physical
> >>> access to a computer, I own it almost that easily.
> >
> >>A windows computer, yes..
> >
> > *Any* microcomputer.
>
> Yeah think?
>
> >>>>Even if you did get my encryption has, I don't use those lame md5
> >>>>ciphers, I use blowfish.
> >
> >>> And you just keep right on thinking that that makes your crap safe: it
> >>> makes me look that much better when I get called in and have started
> >>> the printout before they're done questioning you.
> >
> >>Bwhahahahaha They ain't going to question me about nothing. If they did, I
> >>would ask them if they have a warrent, if not - I ask them to leave.. I
> >>HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. If they do arrest me, I STILL HAVE NOTHING TO SAY,
> >>and tell them to talk to my lawyer. I know my rights...
> >
> > And then they take your computer again, and call me in
>
> They better have a damn warrent - because I'm sure as hell ain't going to
> give it to 'em. Nor would I help them get in.. Even though I have nothing
> to hide. I have a few questionable programs installed but they aren't
> illegal. I use them to test my own security.
>
> > -- and if
> > *that's* all you got, then the printout starts before they even get
> > done processing you in.
>
> If they come and take my computers, you'd BETTER TELL THEM TO BRING A
> WARRENT!!
>
> >>>>>>I think
> >
> >>>>> No, you don't.
> >
> >>>>Yes I do..
> >
> >>> Not very well.
> >
> >>Very well.
> >
> > All evidence to the contrary?
>
> ditto.
>
> >>>>>>they can give you 5-years for making threats against the Prez.
> >
> >>>>> But are, of course, too stupid to actually find out.
> >
> >>>>Nonetheless, you go to jail for a long time.
> >
> >>> 5 years is tinker toy time, idiot child.
> >
> >>Yeah, right.. I hear they rape you and all kinds of stuff in prison..
> >
> > You "hear" a *lot* of thing that aren't necessarily so, idiot child.
>
> Are you saying it doesn't happen? I've heard that it does.
>
> >>>>>>You
> >>>>>>would have to prove you've been hacked, how would you do that if the
> >>>>>>hacker run a one shot deal, and left no rootkits on your computer?
> >
> >>>>> There are many ways to detect such an incursion --
> >
> >>>>I'm an guru when it comes to security and intrusion detection.
> >
> >>> Suuuuuuure you are.
> >>>
> >>> That's why you were *just* whining about your inability to do your
> >>> firewall properly.
> >
> >>Not only is PF the most secure firewall in the world,
> >
> > Because you say so? you can't even get it working.
>
> The military, Governments, Universities etc..
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/03/13/darpabsd.html
>
>
> Can you name a more secure firewall? Didn't think so.. Let me guess, you
> would recommend ZoneAlarm, right?
>
> >>its also the most difficult to write rules for..
> >
> > ... exposing once again your lack of any real experience.
>
> You have to start somewhere..
>
> >>I use PF, but configuring tables withing the
> >>firewall is a whole different animal. I'm learning it though.
> >
> > But see: a "guru" is one that teaches others -- if you can't do it
> > yourself, how are you going to do that?
>
> I could tell people how to use it - without tables and packet shaping. I'm
> learing it..
>
> >>>>> you'll pardon me if
> >>>>> I insist you remain ignorant of the finer details since I cannot trust
> >>>>> you to act responsibly with such information.
> >
> >>>>So you're capable of finding a rootkit on windows are ya?
> >
> >>> That's trivial.
> >
> >>So you agree, you must reinstall.
> >
> > No, that statement says nothing about needing to reinstall to *find*
> > the rooter.
>
> You can't find them, so you reinstall.
>
> >>>>How would that be
> >>>>possible, the O/S is made up of millions of lines of code.
> >
> >>> ... which just shows that you don't even know where to begin looking.
> >
> >>Me you or anynone else for that matter.
> >
> > Don't project your ignorance on the rest of the world, idiot child.
>
> Call your local computer guru and tell him/her that you have a rooted
> windows box and you want the rootkit removed, and see what they tell you.
>
> >>>>Yeah, you could
> >>>>look for kernel hooks and if they are detected how are you going find
> >>>>the rootkit? Do tell... Anyone will tell you that if you are rooted you
> >>>>need to reinstall.
> >
> >>> A good piece of advice if you allow yourself to be rooted -- who knows
> >>> what other errors you've made.
> >
> >>This is true.. On Fox they were taking about a guy who got busted for
> >>rooting hundreds of windows computers. He was selling these Zombies to
> >>spamers etc. One of the rooted computers belonged to in I.T. professional.
> >
> >>>>Finding rootkits on Nix is easy. I use a program called tripwire. It
> >>>>creates a encrypted database of your system. Any changes, no matter how
> >>>>slight will show up when you check the database against your current
> >>>>system. Before you install a program, you run tripwire to make sure
> >>>>nothing has been changed added etc. Install your program and update
> >>>>tripwire to reflect whats current. Simple isn't it.. Don't know why
> >>>>anyone hasn't written such a program for windows..
> >
> >>> They have.
> >
> >>What's it called, I will put it on my sisters computer..
> >
> > There are several options -- I usually charge for this sort of thing,
> > but I'll tell you what: you stop running from discussing your lies,
> > and I'll comp you.
> >
> > Deal?
>
> I don't need it, she can run with out it..
>
> > BTW, how did mommie afford to buy TripWire for you?
>
> Its free, On FreeBSD.
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/security/tripwire
>
> I think they sell a enterprise edition for windows computers.
>
> >>> And the above doesn't help if someone re-writes that database.
> >
> >>The database is encrypted.
> >
> > Which only makes it a little harder.
>
> Who would go to all that trouble? You would have to crack the encryption
> drop the rootkit, update tripwire to current. Actually there would be more
> to it, because of the way tripwire leaves a time stamp. You would have to
> disable the binary, change the time stamp recompile tripwire.
>
>
> >>Other programs like Yafic and AIDE allow you to
> >>move the database to a disk/cd rom.
> >
> > Irrelevant to getting into a given box.
> >
> >>> Nor does it address how one would *still* own the box, given physical
> >>> access.
> >
> >>You have complete control.
> >
> > That's right -- I would have.
> >
> > That's been my point.
> >
> >>Now about you calling people haters.....
> >
> > This is going to be fun.
> >
> >>Harvard done a study about foreign policy and who makes it.. I've told you
> >>why Americans are dieing everyday in Iraq and soon to be Iran. Jews were
> >>are behind these wars, David Duke said, Strom and numerous others have
> >>said it, and they were called haters by people like you....
> >
> > Once again, you cannot address what *I* say, and so you have to lump
> > me in with some other group and try to criticize *that*.
>
> You know how you people are when anyone criticizes Israel.
>
> > And BTW, "Jews" were not primarily behind Iraq, and duke et. al. *are*
> > haters -- not for saying *this* but for all the things they have said
> > taken as a whole.
>
> If Dr. David Duke Ph,D was an anti-Semite, he wouldn't have dedicated his
> book to a nice Jewish fellow, now would he.
>
>
> >>Now Harvard comes out and backs up everything myself and others have been
> >>saying.. Are the guys at Harvard haters for stating the obvious??
> >
> > Well, since your claim that Harvard "backs up everything" you've been
> > saying is ... optimistic at best.
>
> This guy just said what most already know.. Do you think these political
> scientist at Harvard don't know what's going on?
>
>
> > You make the same error here that you often do: "Harvard" is *not*
> > cited in this article at all. A single professor from Harvard,
> > speaking for no one but himself, is. As is a professor from the
> > University of Chicago, but in your world that one doesn't count.
>
> Yes it does count..
>
> > In addition, these two individuals don't base any conclusions on
> > "that's what Jews do" which is the entirety of what little case you
> > have on this.
>
> Lets just use the politically correct term for Jew/s, NeoCon/s.
>
>
> > They also do not make your other consistent error and conflate the
> > Israeli lobby (which is their *real* topic) and "Jews."
>
> Yeah, Jews have nothing to do with AIPAC do they Roger? My firend Timmy said
> that AIPAC lobbies congress for billions of dollars for Israel. Israel then
> funnels that money back to AIPAC and they use that money to buy
> politicians.
>
> > Finally, I have not read the entire paper these gentlemen have
> > written, but in this article, it appears that they are also begging
> > their own question:
>
> Nor have I.. The Torture Freak a la Allen Dershowitz was on the news
> screaming about Anti-Semitism, so they must have hit a nerve..
>
> > If Washington could live with a nuclear Soviet Union, a nuclear China
> > or even a nuclear North Korea, it can live with a nuclear Iran. And
> > that is why the Lobby must keep up constant pressure on politicians to
> > confront Tehran.
>
> What about it..
>
>
> > Because, of course, the *only* reason to fear a nuclear Iran is
> > because of the threat to Israel.
>
> Iran doesn't have ICBM capability. They could never get the bomb to America.
>
> > Not to mention that they even acknowledge that the threat to Israel
> > from Iran is far greater than that which existed from Iraq -- and yet,
> > it was the latter we attacked.
>
> GoogleL clean break strategy securing the realm. The NeoCons put Iraq on the
> list first, then Iran and Syria.
>
> > Does the Israeli lobby impact US policy? That's their job, and they
> > do it well.
>
> So you condone espionage against America? You want Americas dieing for
> Israel? You're un-American Roger. Why don't you move to Israel.
>
> > Is that impact such that it is detrimental to the best interests of
> > the US? That case is harder to make -- and nothing *you've* said on
> > the matter suggests that this is the case.
>
> How is it in the interest of America to use our people as cannon fodder
> fighting Israeli's prox-wars?
>
> > Nor does any of this address *my* use of the term, and the fact that
> > the only ones I call haters demonstrably are.
>
> You need to get off this hater stuff.
>
> >>http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20060320-12472
> >>6-1902r
> >
> >>Roger you may be an okay guy if I could turn you from a NeoCon to a
> >>Libertarian such as myself..
> >
> > But given that I'm not a neocon to begin with, you've once again let
> > your fantasies of knowing anything at all about my personal life make
> > a fool of you.
>
> Why do you follow the NeoCon agenda?
>
> >>Want me to tell you how to be a Libertarian?
> >
> > It might be amuzing to read what you think a Libertarian is.
>
> You're talking to one..