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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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...as orginally established in 2015 is now expanded beyond just
covering type-2 diabetes to including its co-morbities such as
depression, sleep apnea, and cardiovascular disease:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare

The above is the absolutely only healthy solution to the U.S.
healthcare fiscal crisis compared to either ObamaCare or TrumpCare
simply because it's the only healthy cure for costly chronic medical
conditions such as type-2 diabetes, depression, sleep apnea,
hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, and cardiovascular disease, which
all plague America thereby destroying our healthcare system.

RandyF wrote in part:

> "After the eight-week diet the volunteers returned to normal eating
> but had advice on healthy foods and portion size. Ten of the group
> were retested and seven had stayed free of diabetes."
> ************
> They didn't need drugs and were eating a typical higher carb diet.
>
> Here's the abstract
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27002059
> <snip>
> © 2016 by the American Diabetes Association. Readers may use this
> article as long as the work is properly cited, the use is educational
> and not for profit, and the work is not altered.

Suggested discussion reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/y7Wt5hwlAQAJ


GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> Diabet Med. 2012 Oct 17. doi: 10.1111/dme.12039.
> The 2012 Banting Lecture Reversing the twin cycles of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> It has become widely accepted that type 2 diabetes is inevitably life-long,
> with irreversible and progressive beta cell damage. However, the restoration
> of normal glucose metabolism within days after bariatric surgery in the
> majority of people with type 2 diabetes disproves this concept. There is now
> no doubt that this reversal of diabetes depends upon the sudden and profound
> decrease in food intake, and does not relate to any direct surgical effect.
> The Counterpoint study demonstrated that normal glucose levels and normal
> beta cell function could be restored by a very low calorie diet alone. Novel
> magnetic resonance methods were applied to measure intra-organ fat. The
> results showed two different time courses: a) resolution of hepatic insulin
> sensitivity within days along with a rapid fall in liver fat and
> normalisation of fasting glucose levels; and b) return of normal beta cell
> insulin secretion over weeks in step with a fall in pancreas fat. Now that
> it has been possible to observe the pathophysiological events during
> reversal of type 2 diabetes, the reverse time course of events which
> determine the onset of the condition can be identified. The twin cycle
> hypothesis postulates that chronic calorie excess leads to accumulation of
> liver fat with eventual spill over into the pancreas. These self-reinforcing
> cycles between liver and pancreas eventually cause metabolic inhibition of
> insulin secretion after meals and onset of hyperglycaemia. It is now clear
> that Type 2 diabetes is a reversible condition of intra-organ fat excess to
> which some people are more susceptible than others.
> PMID: 23075228

Yes, stopping the causative overeating without harmful
undernourishment by holding to the right amount, which is 32 oz of
daily food, is the absolutely only **healthy** way to remove the
"intra-organ fat excess" ( http://WDJW.net/VAT ) that happens with
overeating:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e684b2a336961e?

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman (along with countless others
globally --> http://bit.ly/2015GHHS ) are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diet.low-carb/ehvWZrH5Q9U/z0oHiET3Lo0J

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1r72AsO3NuQ/VkYiWMDlLFIJ
**and**

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/OwIa247V2QA/taPvYBATA9oJ

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/2KcDOWlEcZM/7pDF83wuXwUJ

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a
http://bit.ly/TerriblyStupid (Mark 9:42) death:

http://bit.ly/BiblicalEsau

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us
right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the http://WDJW.net/VAT from
around the heart

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/T3BookCure
which is the absolutely only **healthy** cure for chronic acquired
diseases.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

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The information posted here is out of date and incomplete and in its
original form misleading.

A single red flag alone says it all, "cure".

Please consult your medical expert for currrent information in your best
approach to diabetes care.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> "You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
>
> You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Duke wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Someone eternally condemned and tormented asked:

>>> >> >> >> > can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> >> >> >> No according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>>> >> >> > i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
>>
>>> >> >> Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
>>> >> >> until satan entered into him.
>>
>>> >> > asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
>>> >> > that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
>>
>>> >> Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
>>
>>> > i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>> so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
>>
>> 32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
>
> Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Someone eternally condemned and tormented asked:
>
>> >> >> > can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>
>> >> >> No according to Genesis 3:14
>
>> >> > i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
>
>> >> Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
>> >> until satan entered into him.
>
>> > asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
>> > that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
>
>> Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
>
> i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?

Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14

>> > take care not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit Mr. Chung.
>
>> Referring to yourself as the Holy Spirit is in fact blaspheming
>> against Him.
>
> not that i have done so

Actually you have.

>, but it is not, blasheming the Holy Spirit
> to align oneself with the Holy Spirit

To write that you "align oneself with the Holy Spirit" as if He were
comparable in size to yourself is to again blaspheme against Him.

Suggested additional reading:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Ekwl05SfDwAJ

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally
condemned. The latter is a consequence of being more cursed (Jeremiah
17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

> An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
> benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

>>> The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
>>> responders to the treatment.
>>
>> 50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
>
> The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
> confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

>> In a type 2, "first phase insulin response" invariably still rises
>> above the basal insulin steady state level.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.support.diabetes/V2oqBfGR9MY/fgBEB3OhAgAJ

> Sometimes

Invariably means always.

> , but starting near nothing

No, starting from basal which is "near nothing" in type-1 but not
type-2.

> , means even a small amount is "rises",
> no?

Though the "spike" (first-phase insulin release) of the post-prandial
rise in insulin levels may be gone, the response is still there as
evident by it running into an enhanced "second phase insulin release"
instead of generating a delayed "first phase insulin release."

> Here is a good review of the topic:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11424229
>
> In patients with impaired glucose tolerance or in the early stages of type
> 2 diabetes, first-phase insulin release is almost invariably lost despite
> the enhancement of second-phase secretion.

Doubling the "first phase insulin response" as observed in cases of
remission/reversal/cure does in fact restore the "spike" (first-phase
insulin release) at the very beginning of the curve of post-prandial
insulin levels.

I give all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly continue to demonstrate that you are
unable to comprehend the diagnosis of type-2 diabetes. Again, the
latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> "Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
> love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

> May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
> mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> "Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
> cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

> False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"Cure" is a red flag.The information presented doesn't represent the
concensus of current medical research.

Better to seek medical direction with a proven doctor known and trusted by
you.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Back ground on sightwalker can be found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg> .
I wonder if license is still suspended?
Jimmy Alpha GeD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Best to only consult your local medical expert on personal health issues. .

If someone mentions a "cure" for diabetes, that is a huge red flag worth
paying attention to.

Discuss this with your local medicl provider.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 8/1/2017 5:57 PM, sightwalker with a phd said:

sightwalker, you gush error, and perhaps that is why you have so few
followers? You failed as a teacher because you don't know your Bible,
and as a doctor because you are seen as a know it all in your errors?

What is found here
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/free.uk.medicine/m0EckVsbmeg>
is everything people need to know about the man who walks by sight, and
follows his feeling over what is in the Bible.
Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Ask your local medical expert if there is a "cure" for diabetes.

Then act accordingly with their best advice.

You know them, you trust them, the internet is not the place to seek
medical clinical care.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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"Healthy cure" implies multiple "cures". Another huge red flag.

Don't be confused by chatter one encounters on the internet from an unknown
source.

Always consult a trusted local to you expert of demonstrated known
credentials and training and knowledge.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 03 Aug 2017 20:26:49 GMT, helper wrote:

Hello Fool, aka Servant.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 8/3/2017 5:07 PM, Robert wrote:
> On 03 Aug 2017 20:26:49 GMT, helper wrote:
>
> Hello Fool, aka Servant.
>


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On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:07:21 -0700, Robert wrote:

> On 03 Aug 2017 20:26:49 GMT, helper wrote:
>
> Hello Fool, aka Servant.

Talking toyourself still?
--
'Whenever we crucify the guilty, the most crowded roads are chosen, where
most people
can see and be moved by this fear. For penalties relate not so much to
retribution as to their
exemplary effect.'
Quintilian (AD 35-95, Decl 274)

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> On 03 Aug 2017 20:26:49 GMT, helper wrote:
>
> Hello Fool, aka Servant.

Not unless he has moved to the US. Read the headers.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jimmy Alpha GeD

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The Bottom line, it is best to only seek local to you medical services from
known qualified sources.

Ask that person about a "cure" for diabetes and fully trust their answer.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Not a defrocked Doc?

Its all happening

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On 02 Aug 2017 21:43:33 GMT, helper wrote:

>
>
>Ask your local medical expert if there is a "cure" for diabetes.
>
>Then act accordingly with their best advice.
>
>You know them, you trust them, the internet is not the place to seek
>medical clinical care.

Mainstream medicine also is not the place to seek a cure.
I'd listen to what mainstream has to say, sometimes their advice is
good and valid, but when it comes to the situation where they start
prescribing drugs, its time to say "whoa !! ... what's this shit
you're trying to push onto me".

You see mainstream has been hijacked by the pharmaceutical cartel.

Best option at that point is to turn to the internet and try to find
some alternative solutions.


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Its all happening - right here, right now !!

Most Medical Information on Wikipedia is False
http://www.omsj.org/category/issues/wikipedia
http://tinyurl.com/n9rrj3l


"The Council of Foreign Relations Mistakenly Proves the Largest
Outbreaks of Infectious Diseases Are Within the Most Highly Vaccinated
Populations." http://tinyurl.com/kcu5e5g


Newer and more pharmaceutical drugs at higher prices (of course!!)
brought to you by big pharma

More and more spin, hype, lies and propaganda to get wars going and
clamp down on people's freedoms


A "barrier of entry" protects the racket. In the unholy union between
the FDA and the drug companies, today it takes hundreds of millions of
dollars of "testing" to approve any substance for medical use. As the
long arm of the FDA seeks to regulate herbs and vitamins (and who
knows what else is on their wish list?) the issue of health is
increasingly one that only large corporations can play. The way the
FDA paved that road was a reinterpretation of its mission in the
1960s. Originally, they were charged with food and drug safety. Then
they appended the word "effective" to their charge, which the drug
companies initially fought, but subsequently perverted into a great
way of protecting the racket. All those alternative cancer treatments
are "safe" because they are harmless, unlike the mainstream
treatments, which are anything but "safe."
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#system



The final blow to homeopathy, however, was dealt by diversifying
robber barons, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie in particular.
Rockefeller and Carnegie amassed enormous fortunes during the Gilded
Age, through ingenuity and ruthlessness. As they came to dominate
their respective industries, they branched out and became
“philanthropists.” Their “philanthropy” was more directed toward
social engineering than humanitarian activity. Rockefeller and
Carnegie exercised “institutional control” over American medicine.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing

The AMA worked hand-in-hand with Flexner, and government was soon a
player. State boards refused to license doctors that did not come
from AMA-approved schools. That interlocking institutional control
spelled the death knell for homeopathy. In 1900, there were 22
homeopathic colleges. In 1918, there were only seven. Homeopathic
colleges were not the only casualties of the institutional control
that Rockefeller, Carnegie, the AMA, licensing boards, and drug
companies would exercise over medicine. That process also closed most
medical schools for women and blacks. The AMA successfully kept
blacks out of medicine until the 1960s, with an effort led by Morris
Fishbein.[133] The alleged strategy was bringing science and
education to medicine, but it was also obviously a power play to
consolidate wealth and power. Ironically, Rockefeller would not take
the drugs that his empire promoted. His personal physician was a
homeopath, and John D. lived to be nearly 100 years old.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#developing











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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> "You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Andy, why do you choose to robo-spam ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/qV5KSlvbigk/kkSZ6C99BQAJ

Neither this nor the Holy Spirit are robo-spam.

Willfully lying before anyone, who is in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is indeed blaspheming **against** Him.

You clearly remain eternally condemned for blaspheming **against** the
Holy Spirit just as Ananias and Sapphira were.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, **and** your entire household more than ever,
in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Amen.

"Whatever you, HeartDoc Andrew, ask, in My Name, will be done for
you." -- Holy Spirit (John 16:23)

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> "You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
>
> You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Duke wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Someone eternally condemned and tormented asked:

>>> >> >> >> > can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> >> >> >> No according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>>> >> >> > i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
>>
>>> >> >> Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
>>> >> >> until satan entered into him.
>>
>>> >> > asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
>>> >> > that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
>>
>>> >> Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
>>
>>> > i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>> so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
>>
>> 32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
>
> Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

> An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
> benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> "Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
> love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

> May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
> mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> "Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
> cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

> False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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The suggested "cure" is no such thing, period.

It is like saying one can "cure" a missing gall bladder.

In diabetes beta cells are missing and are not regenerated.

One can control to a large extent the symptoms of a missing gall bladder.

Likewise for beta cells.

That is not "cure".

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
does not rplace.

This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
acknowledged medical expert.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Truth isn't sightwalker's cup of tea...
Jimmy Alpha GeD

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 8/7/2017 1:49 PM, helper wrote:
> Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?
>
> Do we "cure" missing beta cells?
>
> No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
> does not replace.
>
> This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
> acknowledged medical expert.

Do not confuse sightwalker with truth, all can see that it is addled...
Jimmy Alpha GeD



Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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dr...@twilightz.one

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And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
to who they are.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dr. Who wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>> http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
>
>> Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

>> Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

>> No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
>> does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

>> This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
>> acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

> And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
> to who they are.

I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope
you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dr. Who wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>> http://WDJW.net//HeartDocAndrewCare
>>> which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
>
>> Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

>> Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

>> No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
>> does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

>> This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
>> acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

> And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
> to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












helper

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A false claimed often reported does not truth it make.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> "You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
>
> You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Duke wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Someone eternally condemned and tormented asked:

>>> >> >> >> > can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> >> >> >> No according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>>> >> >> > i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
>>
>>> >> >> Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
>>> >> >> until satan entered into him.
>>
>>> >> > asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
>>> >> > that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
>>
>>> >> Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
>>
>>> > i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>> so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
>>
>> 32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
>
> Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

> An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
> benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

>>> The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
>>> responders to the treatment.
>>
>> 50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
>
> The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
> confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> "Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
> love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

> May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
> mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> "Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
> cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

> False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dr. Who wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>> http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
>>> which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
>
>> Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

>> Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

>> No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
>> does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

>> This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
>> acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

> And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
> to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 8/8/2017 1:18 PM, helper wrote:
> A false claimed often reported does not truth it make.

It's only false in the real world, not in sightwalkers addled world of
make believe.
Jimmy Alpha GeD


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> "You have lost your salvation, Jimmy." -- Holy Spirit
>
> You are in error.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vXdIJTZ_mGw/VGfvBAwzCAAJ

Writing that the Holy Spirit is error is your again blaspheming
against Him.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Duke wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Someone eternally condemned and tormented asked:

>>> >> >> >> > can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> >> >> >> No according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>>> >> >> > i'm a human being asking you if i can eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day
>>
>>> >> >> Eternally condemned and tormented Judas Iscariot was a human being too
>>> >> >> until satan entered into him.
>>
>>> >> > asking if one may eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day is not evidence
>>> >> > that 'satan' has entered into anyone.
>>
>>> >> Otoh, lack of discernment is evidence that satan has entered into you.
>>
>>> > i ask again, in your opinion, can i eat 32 oz of pop tarts each day?
>>
>>> Again, the answer is no according to Genesis 3:14
>>
>> so the Chung dietary plan is not just; "32 oz of food per day"
>>
>> 32 oz of pop tarts are excluded even though pop tarts
>
> Your simpleton mind just can't grasp it.

Such is the degenerating condition of the reprobate mind of those
eternally condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/pMijtYugDwAJ

Note: To knowingly lie to someone in the Holy Spirit, Who is the
Spirit of Truth, is to blaspheme against Him.

Someone eternally condemned and tormented perseverated:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/Nq1_7FKoAgAJ



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

> An a1c of < 7 is not what one would find in a "cure". The only relevant
> benchmark would be the 4.6 to 5 or so of the non-diabetic.

All the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly display your ignorance about the units of measure
for HgbA1c **not** being in mmol/L. Such ignorance is consistent with
your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/vnFABJwOeIY/FY-xqBsNAgAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
> RandyF wrote:
>
>>>> CONCLUSIONS: A robust and sustainable weight loss program
>>>> achieved continuing remission of diabetes for at least 6 months
>>>> in the 40% who responded to a VLCD by achieving fasting plasma
>>>> glucose of <7 mmol/L. T2DM is a potentially reversible
>>>> condition.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/3rFYbfd6AwAJ

>>> The study had 30 people? And had only less than half classed as
>>> responders to the treatment.
>>
>> 50% cure rate is pretty impressive.
>
> The small number of participants in this study (30) doesn't inspire
> confidence in the results.

The purpose of a larger number (N) of participants would be to ensure
that a study is adequately powered to detect a small effect.

The "small number" excuse to reject the results of a study would be
justified if there were **no** findings with the rationale being that
the study was underpowered to detect small effects and consequently
missed them.

Such an excuse is not applicable here since the "50% cure rate" is a
very large effect.

Clearly you have no comprehension of statistics. Such cognitive
deficits are consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by
GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/wH7GbAo5AAAJ

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

latter cognitive deficit is a consequence of being more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who are
eternally condemned, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I forgive you.

Exposing you is not sin but rather it's keeping the LORD's commandment
(Matthew 5:16)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to remind us that we who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed have
already been http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him as evident by our being
new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto salvation (Romans 10:10) for
all to witness at Jesus' http://WDJW.net web site :-)

Laus Deo !!!

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/1psFMsQWkAw/0V1sS3C-QZ8J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> "Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another;
> love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous." 1 Peter 3:8

Yes, this is directed towards those of us, who, unlike you who are
eternally condemned, have been http://WDJW.net/Redeemed as evident by
our publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" with our mouth (Romans 10:9) unto
salvation (Romans 10:10) for all to witness at our LORD's
http://WDJW.net/ web site and so we have compassion towards each other
instead of towards those like you who are being forever tormented by
the LORD our GOD, Who hates you just as He hates Esau (Malachi 1:2-3)
for his lying that hunger is starvation (Genesis 25:32).

> May God bless and protect and provide peace at last.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that not only do you not know how to pray to
Him, you also do not have either His blessing or His protection or His
peace which is consistent with your being forever tormented by Him.

May GOD continue to openly curse (Jeremiah 17:5) and torment you, who
are eternally condemned, more than ever thereby ever comforting those
of us who are His http://WDJW.net/Redeemed in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/l962_mp1wzo/b9OPa1Mbmx4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> I'm sorry ...

Those who say/write that they are sorry unwittingly reveal that they
are indeed accursed for those of us who are http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
always say/write with all due (Romans 13:8) love (1 Peter 3:8) that we
repent.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly prove yet again that you are forever accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/Sz4t6AlA3Eo/RiUDbW9AwD4J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the
> mouth, this defiles a man. Matt. 15:11

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/CZ8vV8ygnZw/xXiBrV7oVgwJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VUmQFOoArtw/TrTeRjdCcgAJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/ize6zJm-cYE/BimXAx4trOcJ

Indeed, if what comes "out of the mouth" (Matthew 15:11) is either not
the phrase "wonderfully hungry" or doesn't cause (Deuteronomy 8:3)
others to be http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier now (Luke 6:21a) then
they are words that defile and prove that the source is like you who
are accursed like satan who is not hungry as evident by his eating
dust (Genesis 3:14) instead of real food.

Many thanks, much praise, and all glory to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly continue to prove that you are eternally condemned and
always accursed.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/bncjgZjc2q4/Km9VWrPGh68J



Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:

> Markea Berry ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/XLpEpoxeecU/mOMtz7yzcMQJ

Some additional examples:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/3N6bKuVT9Og/_B_GuBjcXMgJ

and

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/tnSQcYqVu5s/kQ2kdFSOxmAJ

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly allow us to know that Markea's
http://WDJW.net/Ghost is haunting you by cutting down members of your
household one by one in answer to our prayers to the LORD our GOD, in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo


Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>
> "Bariatric surgeons have in the peer-reviewed medical literature documented
> cases of type-2 diabetes being cured,"

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/B-dJ_iWGRk8/1fQmfxxrAQAJ

> False, they only go as far as saying "reverse" or some similar term.

"Reverse" is a similar term to cure in that they are interchangeable
(i.e. synonymous):

To reverse type-1 diabetes would be to cure it.

To reverse Multiple Sclerosis would be to cure it.

To reverse Parkinson's disease would be to cure it.

CHECKMATE :-)

I give all the glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His
compelling you to unwittingly CHECKMATE yourself here. The latter
self-defeat is consistent with your being more cursed (Jeremiah 17:5)
by the LORD our Mighty (Isaiah 9:6) GOD.

May GOD continue to curse (Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally
condemned and tormented, more than ever, in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth.

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dr. Who wrote:
> Someone eternally condemned and tormented wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>> http://WDJW.net/HeartDocAndrewCare
>>> which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
>
>> Do we "cure" a missing gall bladder?

A missing gall bladder is evidence of cure.

We cure an infected gall bladder by removing it.

>> Do we "cure" missing beta cells?

We allow beta cells to regrow when we lose the beta-cell-killing
http://HeartMDPhD.com/VAT thereby curing the type-2 diabetes

>> No, we at best control the symptoms caused by the missing tissue the body
>> does not rplace.

You remain cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD to falsely believe that.

May GOD continue to curse you, who are eternally condemned, and your
entire household more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

>> This is the kind of information best learned from your choice of local
>> acknowledged medical expert.

May all who believe you, who are eternally condemned, also remain
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/VaNUc6reB8I/JUKqeuOSAgAJ

> And not some fool on the net like this person, who cannot fess up as
> to who they are.

Such is the condition of the eternally condemned as they are ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Nonetheless, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 )
and hope you, Dr. Who, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?












Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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helper

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No.

Best instead to seek ot a local qualified medical expert.
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