> AHAHahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... Ersatz Rabbi "Mitchell Jones" whom the
> Mexicans call Hudio Honess <mjo...@21cenlogic.com> barged in, to declare
> his solidairity with and to support this member of his ilk....
I am sorry to hear that Mitchell Jones is a Jew. I enjoy the clarity of
his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as suspect, since,
being a Jew, he believes that what is good for Jews is more important than
the truth.
***{If you had heard that Mitchell Jones was a gentile, intellectual
consistency would therefore require you to say:
"I am sorry to hear that Mitchell Jones is a gentile. I enjoy the
clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as
suspect, since, being a gentile, he believes that what is good for
gentiles is more important than the truth."
If not, why not?
> In article <8bf802638b7abf68...@pseudo.borked.net>,
> Sid Snead <sn...@yahoo.example> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:11:39 +0000, hanson wrote:
>>
>> > AHAHahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... Ersatz Rabbi "Mitchell Jones" whom the
>> > Mexicans call Hudio Honess <mjo...@21cenlogic.com> barged in, to
>> > declare his solidairity with and to support this member of his ilk....
>>
>> I am sorry to hear that Mitchell Jones is a Jew. I enjoy the clarity of
>> his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as suspect, since,
>> being a Jew, he believes that what is good for Jews is more important
>> than the truth.
>
> ***{If you had heard that Mitchell Jones was a gentile, intellectual
> consistency would therefore require you to say:
>
> "I am sorry to hear that Mitchell Jones is a gentile. I enjoy the clarity
> of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as suspect, since,
> being a gentile, he believes that what is good for gentiles is more
> important than the truth."
>
> If not, why not?
Because it's my observation that Jews act the way I described, but that
gentiles do not.
Then let's examine your "observation."
To begin, "Jew" is defined in terms of membership in a particular
religious group, or as being descended from persons who were members of
that religious group. Thus the vast majority of Jews have an awareness
of their history as a people, including an awareness of the beliefs that
have historically been associated with being Jewish, whether they agree
with those beliefs or not. Result: most Jews feel a kind of group
solidarity, and, in some cases, that leads to bias in favor of what they
regard as the goals of the group.
"Gentile," on the other hand, basically means "not a Jew." Gentiles, not
having a common religion, cannot be defined in terms of any particular
religious affiliation, or in terms of descent from members of any
particular religious group. Thus they have no awareness of their history
as a people, because gentiles are not one people, but many. Result:
gentiles do not, in general (antisemites excepted) feel group solidarity
AS GENTILES, because they have no common religion, traditions, culture,
or goals, but they *do* feel solidarity with respect to the specific
sects/groups of which they are members. Result: some members of
virtually every gentile sect take feelings of solidarity to the extreme
of being biased in their thinking--i.e., they behave as if, to
paraphrase your wording, what is good for the group is more important
than the truth.
That means we can say, concerning gentiles, that group affiliation
sometimes biases an individual's thinking, and, thus, that claims that
are supportive of the goals of the sect/group of which the speaker is a
member ought to be treated as particularly suspect.
But that is the same thing we can reasonably say about a particular Jew,
now isn't it?
Bottom line: we ought to judge people as individuals, but, since group
affiliation is part of what an individual is, we ought to be especially
vigilant when evaluating claims that relate to the group affiliation of
the person making them.
Not too surprising for the bigotedly prepared mind. Once a point of view
is embedded no amount of evidence can be interpreted save that which
supports the bias.
FK
Mitch your cajoling is too late now... ahahaha... salvage what you can.
Look what other more observant Jews have done after having seen
the handwriting on the wall: ... "as can be seen" on the Jew-Fox TV
Channel's ongoing commercials where a whining Jew whimpers ~:
"Please send a $1200 donation to make it possible that a family of
4 Jews can return to the land of their forefathers" ... (of which, of
course,
they don't have any (such ancestry), since virtually none of them have
any genes of the ancient Israelites, but are of solid Slavic stock...
ahahaha....)
Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson
Too bad for your argument that the laws of genetics refutes it in
detail. Tests of DNA of Jewish people or many different nationalties who
claimed to be Cohanim (those who are descended from the hereditary high
priesthood) show that indeed they do have a common ancestry. Even to the
extent that some east african tribes seem to have some connection to
this ancestry also. DNA doesn't lie but then again you do.
FK
Thanks for the internet entertainment! You play so well the role of the
village idiot of the internet. Our local clown who pretends to erudition
but can only produce faulty results that show him for what he is, the
utter fool.
FK
Note that the appellation "Kas" is of your making. Do not ascribe it to
me unless you clearly indicate that it is an appellation of your
construction.
Rather interesting that you are incapable of rational argumentation. You
appear to believe that taking another's arguments and saying that they
just prove what you have contended without any specification as to how
such a claim is valid is not argumentation. It is merely unverified
assertion. I do not support others who just appear to be what you
consider my cohort. Mostly what I do is support an open exchange of
positions based on logical constructs. I understand that you are a total
stranger to such actions but your continual, imbecilic, alliteration to
your purported name and the some kind of uulation that compels you to
appear to be laughing (or whatever confused thinking you are appealing
to) as some kind of self revealing criticism of another's arguments but
only makes you more self obsessed cretinous factor on this NG.
You wouldn't understand what is stereotypically Jewish if hit you in the
face. Why not? Because there is nothing stereotypically Jewish as there
is nothing stereotypically mentally diseased lest we infer what you are.
Your failure to produce any whit of compelling argumentation other than
that usually associated with personal vilification makes you an object
of pity on this NG. We hope that the visits with your therapist bears
some fruit and you find it less compelling to attack those who confuse you.
FK
Nice attempt at obfuscation, Hanson. Note the Cohane DNA found in east
African cases was clearly produced when Jews migrated down the coast of
east Africa many many generations ago. The low frequency of blue eyes
among Jews of eastern Europe denies quite readily any claim that they
are of a Slavic origin. You probably also believre that the Jews of
eastern Europe were the remnant of Khayzars (who were partially
accepting of Judaism but were not ethnically Jews) but who became mostly
Muslims or Christians after being totally beaten by the Slavs of
Russia. The desire of the bigoted to not allow Jews to claim their
ancestry is part of a traditional attempt to deny Jews their patrimony
on the part of fools like you lest you feel some doubts about your
Christian patrimony and its legitimacy.
The results of the DNA tests show quite well that it is almost uniformly
found among those who claim ancestral connection to the Cohanim. None of
my family, for example, have such DNA connections. But all the Cohens,
Kohens, Kohns, etc. I know who have had a DNA examination have such a
recognizable ancestry. You can attempt by your purported humor to make
light of this but once again merely demonstrate yourself to be the clown
you have paraded before us on this NG for quit a while. Save your clown
antics for entertainment and stop playing the rational individual. You
are too poor an actor to simulate such.
FK
Hanson is one of a group of anti-Semitism blowhards (along with Tom
Potter, Brad Guth, Androcles) who have turned sci.physics practically
into der Stuermer. Hanson's appelation for me is "Dreidel". He thinks
I am a self-loathing Jewish man. my protestations of Gentile origin to
the contrary.
You'll also notice that the race-baiters also know absolutely nothing
about math, physics, chemistry, or biology, either.
>
> - Show quoted text -
You wouldn't understand what is stereotypically Jewish if hit you in the
face. Why not? Because there is nothing stereotypically Jewish as there
is nothing stereotypically mentally diseased lest we infer what you are.
Your failure to produce any whit of compelling argumentation other than
that usually associated with personal vilification makes you an object
of pity on this NG. We hope that the visits with your therapist bears
some fruit and you find it less compelling to attack those who confuse you.
FK
>
[hanson]
.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Bingo again!... ahahaha... AHAHAHA. You cranked yourself!
How stereotypically Jewish can you be, Kaz. So, predictable.
>
ahahahaha... So, the short sense of your long story is that
you cranked yourself, Kaz, and then you went into a fit of
stereotypical behavior like this brother-in-ilk of yours here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
But I gotta give you some credit for you not being quite as bad
as he is... quantitatively... But yours & his are certainly of the
same stereotypical quality... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Kaz... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
You are hopelessly stupid. I doubt that you got past high school unless
you were high all the time you were in school.
You are the stereotype of the anti-semits. All accusation, no facts, no
logical argumentation. Just accusations. There, you like it? I did what
you usually do. I made a series of accusations without any substance.
Just appearances as do you. Not very acceptable is it, Horson?
FK
Please avoid any inadvertent suggestion that
associates me with this trolling psychopath.
The results of the DNA tests show quite well that it is almost uniformly
found among those who claim ancestral connection to the Cohanim. None of
my family, for example, have such DNA connections. But all the Cohens,
Kohens, Kohns, etc. I know who have had a DNA examination have such a
recognizable ancestry. You can attempt by your purported humor to make
light of this but once again merely demonstrate yourself to be the clown
you have paraded before us on this NG for quit a while. Save your clown
antics for entertainment and stop playing the rational individual. You
are too poor an actor to simulate such.
FK
>::
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. Kudos to you, Kaz... for your lengthy
sidebar lecture about an imaginary wishful history that reaches
2 millennia back and more... which does not imply at all that
I should "feel some doubts about my Christian patrimony and
its legitimacy"... What you have stated in stereotypical fashion
is that *if* Jews have a right to claim their ancestral lands then
(a) what the fuck are you doing in the US and even worse, Kaz, if
(b) you apply that principle of prior ancestral claim equally, then
all Whiteys ought to go back to Europe, the Asians to Asia
the Blacks to Africa, and Australia ought to start an exodus to
leave it to the Abos... So, what makes you Jews being so
special that only you deserve that claim?.... Is this your role
model & reason: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>::
See Kaz, your latest tripe is exactly why I love to bullshit with you
Ashkenazis... for the sheer fun of bullshitting... because you
believe your own bullshit, no matter how gross and criminal
the gag is... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f ....
instead you pursuing life like all normal Jews and Goyim do:
To concern yourself with the here and now and the immediate
future and try to build one based on cooperation instead of conflict...
>::
Kaz, do admire and follow the noble and splendid example of
your own daughter who married a Palestinian Moslem .... ... or...
did you in the stereotypical fashion, bigotry, racism and hatred
of your ilk fuck-up that peace-loving attempt of hers, too?
Don't tell me that you did stoop that low, Katz.
I see by your usual hysterical laughter (I presume that is what you
mean by all the ah's that you so compulsively sprinkle through your
hyseria laden posts) that you have once again demonstrated your you
inability to post with any sense of rational behavior. I doubt that you
can manage 5 lines of post without that demonstrably mental illness
signature.
Oh and BTW the son-in-law has an American (and Christian) mother. A
Palestinian father who deserted a wife and two children to return to his
weird ancestral people. The son-in-law, when he found he cannot hold a
job and can't earn a living to support his wife and son and stepson
turned to Islam to find how to blame the whole of this on the great
satan. His family starves if I do not provide shelter for them and a
good deal of the food they eat. Yet I do not find fault with my
daughter. She is too easily taken in by specious argument. It led her to
accept Christianity but she recognizes that women are treated like dirt
by Muslims and so has not followed her husband into conversion. Don't
get excited, horson, he hates people like you also. He hates just about
everybody.
Note that my allegiance is to the USA and not to Israel and whomever
purports to represent Israel. But you can't understand that as you are
such nut that allegiance to anyone or anything is beyond you. As for the
cadre of Jews among the neocons they have disgraced themselves not among
Jews but among Republicans. I put them in the same category as you,
horson, those who would do anything to attack those they don't like. I
doubt that you have anything resembling a friend, horson. Now let's hear
it again, the hysterical demented laughter.
FK
Do you really believe that any sane person who continually laughs
hysterically as you do would believe any of your demented claims?
You are one sick puppy. Get help. From a Jewish psychiatrist if
necessary. It would be great fun for one of them. I really am saddened
by your mental illness. I wouldn't wish it on a non-troll.
FK
snip .... snip demented raving filled with delirious laughing removed
lest it pollute the internet further.
> If you decide to continue with this profound discussion, then
> let's leave all the sordid details of Act 4, scene 4, behind and
> ahahaha... Let's start == Act 5, scene 1==, now, in a new thread
> titled Re: ** VIDEO SPEECH OF - a not so - INTELLIGENT JEW ***,
> You are a great stereotypical actor, Kaz... ahahaha... and in
> equal stereotypical fashion "The show must go on", Kaz, .
> so that you can go on demonstrating how to be an "assertive Jew"
> I know you'll love it, Kaz. See you there... and thanks for the laughs
> ... in advance... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson
The only thing worth responding to that came from the psycho horson is a
claim that I demonstrate clearly that I support all things done by
Israel and that my only metric for acceptable political action is
whether it is "good for the Jews". It is a quite clear that Jews are in
such senses as limited as other enthnic, religious, or national groups.
They don't seem to agree what is good for them or what is good for their
country. The deluded one who laughs hysterically at his non-funny claims
demonstrates that he wishes to ignore this diversity of opinion among
Jews. He certainly is a prime example of diversity of opinion. Almost
nobody agrees with horson about his hysterical ravings save for a few
occasions when he has been outright anti-semitic and the always cruising
about anti-semites join in with a loud amen.
What horson really wants is a silent Jew who steps aside as he comes
down the sidewalk. He probably wants a return to those days when Jews
fearful for their life warned each other "Don't make trouble". He wants
a silent Jew not an assertive one be he communist, socialist, centrist
Democrat, or right winger (dem or GOP). That is what really gets him.
What he really wants is to be Petronius Arbiter and the ultimate decider
on whose voice may be heard. Luckily he is actually quite insane and as
such is recognized as such and doesn't disturb the body politic. Get
help horson, you desparately need it. Or are you really in some
institution and this is allowed by your therapist?
FK