Any Fans Of Andrew Chung Out There?
A
Chung's 2PD-OMER Ritual Cult, besides “MU“? If so, give a shout!
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ace simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands with
all glory to GOD the Father.
Ace wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.
It is your own spirit that is evil.
May GOD soften your heart giving you, Ace, a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus Christ of Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Ace*
Okay, so along with MU, that makes two. Anyone else? Anyone?...
A*
Seeker
wrote:
> ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
> Ace simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands with
> all glory to GOD the Father.
>
> Ace wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Ace wrote:
>
> >> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
> >> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>
> >> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> > That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
>
> It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
> ritual instead of a prescription.
So if I try the 2PD-OMER Approach and it doesn't work does that mean I
can sue you?
> It is your own spirit that is evil.
>
> May GOD soften your heart giving you, Ace, a new spirit (Ezekiel
> 11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is
> Jesus Christ of Nazareth -->http://T3WiJ.com
>
> Amen.
>
> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
> other heart disease patients:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
>
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
> Approach to get our...
>
> http://WDJW.net/Status
>
> and then...
>
> http://WDJW.net/Update
>
> so that there will be...
>
> http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
>
> Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
>
> Mathematical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=146776...
That is not evidence. It's subjective mumbo jumbo. You should have
enough training to know what the word evidence means.
> Historical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=146776...
Again this is not evidence.
> Medical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=146776...
This is the fallacy of the excluded middle. There are not just two
choices. Fallacies are not evidence.
> Psychological:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=146776...
That is a dangerous thing to say and again it is not evidence. You
should have enough training to know what the word evidence means. Why
do you call things evidence when they are not evidence?
[...]
> Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
> Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
Someone eating one chocolate and a few cookies for the entire day
sounds like a disease. Don't we call that anorexia?
> In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
> WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
> calories.
This is dangerous advise. Your picture shows five pastries and you
expect that to be someone's entire food for a day? They can't get the
nutrients they need from that. Where is the vitamins or fiber?
[...]
> May GOD continue to . . .
God is not your toy or your pet.
[...]
Rod
Why ? Are you going to do them as you have Chung ?
Dr. A
> So if I try the 2PD-OMER Approach and it doesn't work does that mean I
> can sue you?
I'm going to take that as a "No".
Okay, still at 2 cult members and 1 infidel. Well, 2 infidels if I
count myself.
Next....
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ace simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands with
all glory to GOD the Father.
Ace wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.
It is your own spirit that is evil so that your soul is perishing:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e3c6ff18f2265840?
Only those with an evil spirit would be compelled to falsely write
that eating the right daily amount (32 oz) thereby avoiding gluttony
is a ritual tantamount to being part of a cult and that Bob Pastorio's
tragic demise on Fool's day is gleefully celebrated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/690f1c536d947603?
Dr. A
Is that a Yes or No, Rod?
I'm only doing unto Chung as he's done unto others. It's a 2 way
street.
A*
Dr. A
wrote:
>................
I'm sorry, but you can only be counted once.
But thank you for participating.
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ace simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands with
all glory to GOD the Father.
Ace wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.
It is your own spirit that is evil so that your soul is perishing:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e3c6ff18f2265840?
Only those with an evil spirit would be compelled to falsely write
that eating the right daily amount (32 oz) thereby avoiding gluttony
is a ritual tantamount to being part of a cult and that Bob Pastorio's
tragic demise on Fool's day is gleefully celebrated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/690f1c536d947603?
May GOD soften your heart giving you, Ace, a new spirit (Ezekiel
Ace
wrote:
> ..............
I'm sorry, but you can only be counted once.
Thank you for participating.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 8:34 am, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/10/2010 10:27 AM, Ace* wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew B. Chung
>>
>>> Okay, so along with MU, that makes two. Anyone else? Anyone?...
>>
>>> A*
>>
>> Why ? Are you going to do them as you have Chung ?
>
> Is that a Yes or No, Rod?
It's neither. I am aware of Chung and MU and have spoken
with them both on occasion, and your problem with this is what ?
>
> I'm only doing unto Chung as he's done unto others. It's a 2 way
> street.
I wasn't asking about what you have done to Chung, I was asking about
what you plan to do to his friends. Here are the questions below again;
Why ? Are you going to do them as you have Chung ?
>
> A*
Dr. Ace PhD
> It's neither.
That automatically defaults as a "no".
Thank you.
A*
Rod
It's okay, you've already given your answer. You'll find a way to
justify any libel you create. Andrew shouldn't have any friends
in your view if they don't wish to be libeled.
I believe that you claimed your name was Dr.Brian Kelly, and that
you have a Phd in behavioral sciences....
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I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
You will bow down to me.
Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
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Rod
Ahhh....Dr.Brian Kelly, I'd like to view a link to your credentials,
if you would be so kind. Please keep in mind that I know the
origination of your ip as being on the Bellevue, Washington leg,
and I will be doing a search on your name with the licensing
authorities of Washington State....
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Rod wrote:
>> Brian Kelly (aka Ace) wrote:
>>> Rod wrote:
Brian Kelly in Bellevue, Washington only has a B.A. in business
psychology:
http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
Shalom,
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
Anorexia is not healthy.
> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
>
> Shalom,
You are not God and you don't speak for God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
>> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
>>
>
> Anorexia is not healthy.
Indeed, being hungrier is the opposite of anorexia :-)
Seeker wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
This physician is sad to learn that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth.
This does mean you need to be born-again (John 3:3 & 5) else you would
not be saved according to what is written at Romans 10:9.
Truly there is only one GOD:
GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
(Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
17:37):
GOD is love (1 John 4:16) because He has made up His mind (Father) to
allow His heart (Son) to reign as "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
while continuing to indwell within us in His spirit (Holy Spirit)
until the end of the world (Matthew 28:17-20)
Your not being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
convinces this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to pray for you
as outlined per the amazing Facebook spectacle at
http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by three lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Seeker
wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Yet you are not in the Holy Spirit.
> >> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
>
> >>http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
>
> > Anorexia is not healthy.
>
> Indeed, being hungrier is the opposite of anorexia :-)
You would joke about matters this serious? Being hungrier is the
result of anorexia.
[...]
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
That never happened. Why do you lie so much? Of course I have always
had the power to say any English words I wish with my mouth, including
the phrase you name which I have said many times. No I am not going
to call you so you can get your jollies. I'm not into that.
> This physician is sad to learn that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is
> LORD" using your mouth.
You don't learn what you imagine. False things you dream up are . . .
false.
> This does mean you need to be born-again (John 3:3 & 5) else you would
> not be saved according to what is written at Romans 10:9.
That already happened.
[...]
> Your not being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
> convinces this physician . . .
How can you be convinced by what is not the case?
> May GOD save your perishing soul . . .
You are not God and you do not speak for God.
Peter B
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:ueuk869m7pc0lfo2u...@4ax.com...
Jesus being tested of Satan for 40 days in the desert did not yield to him,
but rebuked him according to His Word.
You, being neither God nor Satan, nor Priest are of no repute. No one need
answer to you for all you seek to do is place yourself as a cult leader
deceiving even the very elect if you could.
You have been shown to be a liar, a twister of fact, one who twists even the
Word of the Lord for your own personal satisfaction and glorification.
Beware the judgment of the Lord, repent.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
>> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
>
> Anorexia is not healthy.
Indeed, being hungrier is the opposite of anorexia :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a6ea22b8da2bbe87?
Seeker wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
This physician is sad to learn that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth.
This does mean you need to be born-again (John 3:3 & 5) else you would
not be saved according to what is written at Romans 10:9.
Truly there is only one GOD:
GOD has a mind (Father), a heart (Son), and a soul (Holy Spirit) with
the love of GOD residing in His heart, Who is our risen LORD Jesus
'Christ' of Nazareth (Romans 8:39). It is the mind of GOD Who knows
(Matthew 24:36) the appointed time when His heart will return in the
flesh for His disciples to physically recognize (Luke 24:32) Him in
order to meet up with Him in the air at the appointed place (Luke
17:37):
GOD is love (1 John 4:16) because He has made up His mind (Father) to
allow His heart (Son) to reign as "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
while continuing to indwell within us in His spirit (Holy Spirit)
until the end of the world (Matthew 28:17-20)
Your not being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
with all glory to GOD the Father.
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote (edited to
make truthful):
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >
> > Those who have read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com
> > **know** for a fact that Peter B.'s soul is perishing starting with
> > the fact that he lied about this physician being married to someone
> > other than E-Lee, who is the mother of his daughter Celestin:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/412e938f84f33959?
>
> True, you have rejected that which is false, have continued to write truthfully, and I
> have not read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com else I would have known
> that you are married to a woman named E-Lee and not Dorothy, who is your sister.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5cc1cf4316e06a0d?
May the above editing be instructive in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
And now even faux-christian Peter B. is realizing what we, who have
been made discerning by the Holy Spirit, have known about his
condition all along:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ab7b50ae92c869e?
Laus Deo :-)
Yes, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) still has on the full
armor of GOD as evident by his being http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote asking why
Georgia expunged HeartDoc Andrew's criminal records:
> I wonder why? What was there? (State of Georgia)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6a27a0d2f6d281b?
Those who really want to know will purchase and read the amazing book
titled "Be Hungry:"
http://www.amazon.com/Be-Hungry-Andrew-Chung/dp/0595456413/
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.
Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump Syndrome).
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49995e9f071cd581?
Behaving like an idiot is bad behavior:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/803e83b8610d8b4b?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>28. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
> >> >>-------------------------------------
> >> >>Dr. Chung's contract at the Central Florida Heart Center was
> >> >>terminated *for cause* after less than four months of
> >> >>employment.
> >> >>
> >> >>29. What does "for cause" mean?
> >> >
> >> > Source of question:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/999756db0faad96c?
> >> >
> >> > "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it." -- retired
> >> > physician, Dr. Hildner, who was replaced by Dr. Chung
Source of quote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?
Proof of Dr. Hildner's retired status:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
> >> For just cause you were eliminated.
> >
> > If it were just cause, Dr. Hildner would not have written "you lost
> > your job because you talked yourself out of it."
>
> Wrong
It remains an experience shared by all that when there is just cause
for action that such just cause is invariably publicized from the
outset. For example, the unprovoked Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was
publicized from the outset as just cause for U.S. Operation Desert
Storm against Iraq:
http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml
Truth is simple :-)
It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:
Primum non nocere
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6aa75b17b4c7ec70?
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE
It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)
>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.
Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.
An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.
Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:
2 Peter 2:22
Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
Here is another's opinion about you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?
Bottom line concerning you, Peter:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff4db1285334b4e3?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
Robert Miles
"Rod" <kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:i6dq75$8a1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Are you aware that at some universities, anyone with any
kind of doctorate degree takes the title Dr.? No license
needed, as far as I know.
Rod
Yes, I'm aware of that. However, this one claims to have a
degree in behavioral sciences, and thusly required to be
licensed by law.
Either way, a doctorate issued by any state will be on record
at any legitimate university....
Rod
Ahhh....Dr.Brian Kelly, I'd like to view a link to your credentials,
if you would be so kind. Please keep in mind that I know the
origination of your ip as being on the Bellevue, Washington leg,
and I will be doing a search on your name with the licensing
authorities of Washington State...please include the name of
the university bestowing you with this "doctorate", as well as
a link to the thesis you did towards your doctorate...
Blash
*Usual drivel deleted as a public service*
Hello. Welcome to the Psychiatric Hotline.
If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly.
If you are co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2 for you.
If you have multiple personalities, please press 3, 4, 5 and 6.
If you are paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want. Just
stay on the line so we can trace the call.
If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will tell you
which number to press.
If you are manic-depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press. No
one will answer.
Rod
Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
something to do with fraud and computer crime...
73's
::: Jesus is LORD :::
a Christian newsgroup by lost demonically driven and Spiritually empty
people such as you and your group of homosexual fans. You smear our GOD,
you smear our Saints, you smear the Prophets, and you smear God's Word.
Go to a Muslim group and insult Allah, Muhammed and the Koran there the
same way you are acting here - and see what will happen.
Mark Tindall said he hated God's Word and God. He also hates God's
people and wants to destroy anything they have built up with the help of
his friends:
Mark
Matt
Roy
Grace
Jude
Seeker
These guys make me shudder.
Some of them bully directly, others are more sneaky.
Ooops - one must be missing... 7 is the Scriptural number - sorry, I
missed
scroll...
Marlene.
So there you go:
Mark Tindall (posting as "I")
Marty Colbert (posting as "Matt")
Roy Mock ("rm")
Jean ("Amazing Grace")
"Sensii"
"Jude Alexander"
"Seeker" (House, Jayne Cobb et al)
7, as I said.
Homosexual activists in a Christian newsgroup. They have the aim to
change God's Word to a lie to destroy the basics of Christianity: GOD'S
WORD!
Brothers and sisters, please try to preach the GOSPEL anyway. They will
try to get you involved to take a stand AGAINST the Christians. They
meet in secret places where they discuss their methods.
What they hate most is if you say "Jesus is LORD!", and when you preach
...
~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~
===>>>
I believe that Jesus died a horrible death on the cross in my place and
for my sins so I can have eternal life in community with God. All who
believe that ARE saved and know about it.
<<<===
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the
Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave
his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the
world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be
saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth
not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of
the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:14-18 KJV)
~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~*°*~~
Please, my friends, stand up and take a clear stand for the Gospel of
Jesus Christ, and do not let them water God's Word down (they cannot do
so anyway, but are we not His tools?).
By the way, when I respond to them with things that are probably not
interesting for you, I have thought of something to save you from the
daily drivel:
I will address those people above like this:
@@@ MARK TINDALL
for example, that means with the @@@ signs in front of the name, so you
know it is not really worth reading and can concentrate on the most
important matter:
TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST!
Please do not think you could reach the people on this list. They are
far out of reach, and Christians have tried to get those apostates back
to the truth for SEVEN YEARS, but to no avail. They have really turned
out to be unteachable, and they prove daily who their master is. Do not
be fooled by their copying and pasting of Scripture. Their heart does
not beat for the LORD but for the homosexual lobby.
I love the homosexuals as much as others, and that is why I do not lie
at them. God wants them to turn around and run into His arms. If they
cannot handle their sinful life style, He will surely help them. If they
fall back - there is no sin that could not be forgiven, and we are all
sinners.
But the people on the list tell them their life style is okay for God -
it is not! It is still a sin, as much as adultery, sorcery, etc. But sin
can be forgiven, because Jesus paid the price for it already, on
Calvary, a bloody price for you and me and anyone.
Just come and take His gift! He gave you His life! Now give him yours -
that is all He wants from you. Let Him make something great out of it!
You are all good enough to come to Him, and never too bad so He could
not shine His light through you!
Come to the waters of the Father. Let Him heal you, anybody, sinner, no
matter how bad. Just come!
It is FREE!
--
___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.html
--->>> http://god-bless-obama.blogspot.com/
Dr. Ace PhD
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> From: Ace* <avlvsveryo...@hotmail.com>
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> MIME-Version: 1.0
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> X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
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>
> I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>
> I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
>
> You will bow down to me.
>
> Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
You're trying to be a detective, but you're really bad at it. That was
someone posting a parody of me. I don't post with Easy News (which
hides ISP headers). If anyone matches those headers to mine, they'll
see for themselves that wasn't me. Why didn't you pick up on that
fact? Well?
A*
Dr. Ace PhD
wrote:
>
> Brian Kelly in Bellevue, Washington only has a B.A. in business
> psychology:
Andrew, you previously identified me as living in Las Vegas, NV, based
on me posting to a Las Vegas newsgroup.
Mobile internet doesn't show the state you're posting from.
I could be on a train right now crossing from Pennsylvania into New
York.
I'm surprised a PhD could be swayed by such flimsy information.
I know I wouldn't have been.
A*
Dr. Ace PhD
>
> Are you aware that at some universities, anyone with any
> kind of doctorate degree takes the title Dr.? No license
> needed, as far as I know.
Robert, some people have chased their tail regarding this matter going
back many years.
My name and my degree are nothing new to Usenet, they're just new to
this newsgroup.
The main mistake people make is assuming I'm licensed practitioner,
such as a psychiatrist, which I am not.
I'm an independent private researcher.
A*
Dr. Ace PhD
> Yes, I'm aware of that. However, this one claims to have a
> degree in behavioral sciences, and thusly required to be
> licensed by law.
Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
a PhD in Behavioral Science.
I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
You really don't know what you're talking about most of the time, do
you?
A*
Dr. Ace PhD
>
> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
>
> 73's
What crime have I perpetrated, Rod?
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I'm aware of that. However, this one claims to have a
>> degree in behavioral sciences, and thusly required to be
>> licensed by law.
>
> Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
> a PhD in Behavioral Science.
> I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
That depends on your practice.
produce the name of the university that
issue your degree, as i requested earlier.
> You really don't know what you're talking about most of the time, do
> you?
You do have a degree as you stated, right ?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
Brian wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.
It is your fault for falsely thinking that you are GOD (i.e. delusion
of grandeur):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c1dededfdc51d274?
It is your own spirit that is evil so that your soul is perishing:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e3c6ff18f2265840?
Only those with an evil spirit would be compelled to falsely write
that eating the right daily amount (32 oz) thereby avoiding gluttony
is a ritual tantamount to being part of a cult and that Bob Pastorio's
tragic demise on Fool's day is gleefully celebrated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/690f1c536d947603?
May GOD soften your heart giving you, Brian, a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus Christ of Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Seeker
> On 9/10/2010 10:33 PM, Dr. Ace PhD wrote:
>
> > On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Yes, I'm aware of that. However, this one claims to have a
> >> degree in behavioral sciences, and thusly required to be
> >> licensed by law.
>
> > Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
> > a PhD in Behavioral Science.
> > I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
>
> That depends on your practice.
>
> produce the name of the university that
> issue your degree, as i requested earlier.
Wow Rod, this position you offered Ace much be a good deal right? You
offer him a nice benefit package and a competitive salary. That is
why he is giving you his resume - right? You wouldn't hire just
anybody now?
LOL!
> > You really don't know what you're talking about most of the time, do
> > you?
>
> You do have a degree as you stated, right ?
Are you a perspective employer?
Seeker
> >> X-Complaints-To: ab...@easynews.com
> >> X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> >> otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
> >> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:11:17 -0500
>
> >> I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>
> >> I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
>
> >> You will bow down to me.
>
> >> Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Brian Kelly in Bellevue, Washington only has a B.A. in business
> > psychology:
>
> >http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp
>
> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
Who was defrauded? What was the computer crime?
Dr. Ace PhD
Ahh... you're one of those on line 24/7 types eh? Go figure.
> Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
> a PhD in Behavioral Science.
> > I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
>
> That depends on your practice.
I don't have apreactice Rod. Why did you assume that I did?
Nor do I practise medicine of any type on the internet, including
giving any form of professional diagnosis.
My statemets are mearly my opininion. A learned opinion yes, but still
merely an opinion.
> produce the name of the university that
> issue your degree, as i requested earlier.
My rule is that you have to be willing to lay it on the line, before
making that request of others.
> > You really don't know what you're talking about most of the time, do
> > you?
>
> You do have a degree as you stated, right ?
First you have to post something establishing your credibilty, before
demanding it of others.
You sir have blatantly accused me if being a crimainal.
That's a very serous accusation wich leaves no room for leeway.
So you might want to concentrait more on backing up this hainus
accusation
before I decide to persue it.
A*
Seeker
wrote:
> ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
> Brian (aka Ace) simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD
> commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
Why do you lie? You do it because he doesn't agree with you. You
don't speak for God. You don't order God around. God is not your
personal attack dog.
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Yet you are not in the Holy Spirit. Why do you use the name of the
Holy Spirit for your own vanity? Is the purpose of the Holy Spirit to
feed your ego?
[...]
Dr. Ace PhD
> Wow Rod, this position you offered Ace much be a good deal right? You
> offer him a nice benefit package and a competitive salary. That is
> why he is giving you his resume - right? You wouldn't hire just
> anybody now?
>
> LOL!
You'd think he'd at least have the decency to let me know who exactly
it is that I'm supposed to be applying to.
It's always amusing when someone who's completely anonymous,
challenges the identity of someone else.
It's even more amusing when someone offers up baseless ill informed
assumptions as if they were facts, such as stating said assumptions as
being laws.
What's not so funny is publicly accusing someone of being a criminal.
That constitutes crossing the line as far as I'm concerned. Didn't
"Rod" say something about libel at the beginning of his discourse with
me?
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 8:49 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ahh... you're one of those on line 24/7 types eh? Go figure.
>
>> Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
>> a PhD in Behavioral Science.
>>> I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
>>
>> That depends on your practice.
>
> I don't have apreactice Rod. Why did you assume that I did?
> Nor do I practise medicine of any type on the internet, including
> giving any form of professional diagnosis.
> My statemets are mearly my opininion. A learned opinion yes, but still
> merely an opinion.
>
>> produce the name of the university that
>> issue your degree, as i requested earlier.
>
> My rule is that you have to be willing to lay it on the line, before
> making that request of others.
>
>>> You really don't know what you're talking about most of the time, do
>>> you?
>>
>> You do have a degree as you stated, right ?
>
>
> First you have to post something establishing your credibilty, before
> demanding it of others.
In other words you don't have the Phd as you claimed. Thats okay,
I understand.
I thought not...
Dr. Ace PhD
wrote:
> Brian (aka Ace)
What information are you relying upon Andrew, to pronounce judgment
upon me that my soul is perishing?
You have no idea of what the status of my soul is. You are being
purely judgmental regarding this matter.
And we all know that if I had been praising you and the 2PD-OMER, you
would not be passing any such judgment upon me.
Shame on you.
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
with all glory to GOD the Father.
Seeker wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c1dededfdc51d274?
>>
>> Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for the heart:
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
>
> Anorexia is not healthy.
Indeed, being hungrier is the opposite of anorexia :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a6ea22b8da2bbe87?
Seeker wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by three lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Dr. Ace PhD
> In other words you don't have the Phd as you claimed. Thats okay,
> I understand.
You've made it perfectly clear that you don't understand.
Will that be you defense regarding your accusation?
That you didn't understand what you were doing/saying?
Do you think that will wash should I decide to peruse it?
Dr. Brian G. Kelly, PhD
Seeker
> On Sep 10, 8:58 pm, Seeker <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow Rod, this position you offered Ace much be a good deal right? You
> > offer him a nice benefit package and a competitive salary. That is
> > why he is giving you his resume - right? You wouldn't hire just
> > anybody now?
>
> > LOL!
>
> You'd think he'd at least have the decency to let me know who exactly
> it is that I'm supposed to be applying to.
> It's always amusing when someone who's completely anonymous,
> challenges the identity of someone else.
Perhaps Rod doesn't feel anonymous since his full name has been used
on other newsgroups.
> It's even more amusing when someone offers up baseless ill informed
> assumptions as if they were facts, such as stating said assumptions as
> being laws.
It's the finest entertainment. The Onion and the Daily News Show can
only imitate but usenet provides the real deal live and in the wild.
> What's not so funny is publicly accusing someone of being a criminal.
Oh I don't know about that. I think it would need to come from a
credible accuser to do any real harm.
> That constitutes crossing the line as far as I'm concerned. Didn't
> "Rod" say something about libel at the beginning of his discourse with
> me?
I haven't been following your mutual exchange long enough. If you
were serious about perusing this you might want to do some research on
Rod's exchanges with his arch enemy <<Kelly>> though I won't vogue for
any claims she might make. Still you might learn something from
studying how the sparks fly. It can also be entertaining as well.
Seeker
> On Sep 10, 8:55 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
> > Brian (aka Ace)
>
> What information are you relying upon Andrew, to pronounce judgment
> upon me that my soul is perishing?
You have failed to call him on the phone. Everyone who does not call
him and leave him a voice message will burn in hell forever.
Is the deck half full or half empty?
> You have no idea of what the status of my soul is. You are being
> purely judgmental regarding this matter.
> And we all know that if I had been praising you and the 2PD-OMER, you
> would not be passing any such judgment upon me.
> Shame on you.
Are there really people who support him? I always assumed they were
sock puppets.
Rod
> On Sep 10, 10:30 am, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Path:
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>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:11:17 -0500
>>
>> I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>>
>> I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
>>
>> You will bow down to me.
>>
>> Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>
> You're trying to be a detective, but you're really bad at it. That was
> someone posting a parody of me.
LIAR. You yourself posted a response to Chung in which you included
a link to the post above, so go hurl your BS at someone else.
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On Sep 9, 2:00=A0am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
>
> Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
> reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
> delusions.
>
> For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
> insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
> as evidence that you really are becoming insane.
Is your PhD in Behavioral Science? Mine is.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=3Dphd&hl=3Den&enc_author=3DWKWLTBg=
AAAApyebkjSUIIRm_fecdAfQ3tiDKbEn1fjJfYkQTWXi1Vg&qt_p=3DSearch+author%27s+po=
sts
Einstein=92s comment can only be viewed as anecdotal, as he like you,
had no formal training regarding the subject. Also he was referring to
situational insanity., as in "this plan is insane' etc. But at the
same time, the comment is applicable in that "doing the same thing
over and over again and expecting different results" would be
symptomatic of several types of psychosis. And of course it's the
epitome of irony to read you classifying the multiple application of
verbatim material as an indicator of insanity, you kook.
A*
I don't post with Easy News
YOU LIE AGAIN:
The link above is to this post you are speaking of, and YOU provided
the link above as well as Identifying yourself as the person in the post!
Now lie some more..
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:11:17 -0500
I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
You will bow down to me.
Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
(which
> hides ISP headers). If anyone matches those headers to mine, they'll
> see for themselves that wasn't me. Why didn't you pick up on that
> fact? Well?
>
> A*
Shutup
Rod
> On Sep 10, 9:29 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In other words you don't have the Phd as you claimed. Thats okay,
>> I understand.
>
> You've made it perfectly clear that you don't understand.
You can't, or won't produce your professional credentials when
asked for them, whats to misunderstand ? Even Andy Chung was able to
produce his credentials when I requested them. You really should be
ashamed..
But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
Seeker
> On 9/10/2010 11:39 PM, Dr. Ace PhD wrote:
>
> > On Sep 10, 9:29 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> In other words you don't have the Phd as you claimed. Thats okay,
> >> I understand.
>
> > You've made it perfectly clear that you don't understand.
>
> You can't, or won't produce your professional credentials when
> asked for them, whats to misunderstand ?
I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
understand.
> Even Andy Chung was able to
> produce his credentials when I requested them.
That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
follow suit.
> You really should be
> ashamed..
Why?
> But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
Oh my! Does somebody feel judgement proof?
Rod
You could save yourself a lot of trouble by simply naming
the university that granted your degree. I want to see that
you are in fact qualified as you claim you are.
A
>
> I don't post with Easy News
>
> YOU LIE AGAIN:
>
> The link above is to this post you are speaking of, and YOU provided
> the link above as well as Identifying yourself as the person in the post!
No Rod, what I did was post a link to a Google search of "Brian Kelly
PhD" to show that there was nothing new about "Brain Kelly PhD" in
Usenet. That's it's been a round for quite a while.
That thread also included Notre Dame football coach Brian Kelly. Why
don’t you also assume I’m claiming to be him while your at it?
Now, run this link and compare headers. First I posted with Cox, then
I switched to Clear
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/search?hl=en&group=alt.vacation.las-vegas&q=brian+kelly+phd&qt_g=Search+this+group
It’s sad that you were able to figure out my ISP based on my headers
but unable to figure out that an Easynews post hides headers.
You have been completely wrong so far in all of your accusations and
assumptions and have made a complete fool of yourself and committed
blatant libel in the process. You’re going to have to acquiesce to the
simple fact that you are not a particularly astute individual.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 10:00 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/10/2010 11:39 PM, Dr. Ace PhD wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 10, 9:29 pm, Rod<nhra_fa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> In other words you don't have the Phd as you claimed. Thats okay,
>>>> I understand.
>>
>>> You've made it perfectly clear that you don't understand.
>>
>> You can't, or won't produce your professional credentials when
>> asked for them, whats to misunderstand ?
>
> I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
> credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
> understand.
>
>> Even Andy Chung was able to
>> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>
> That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
> follow suit.
Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
He has lied to me once already about a post he made,
that makes him a liar. What is to stop him from lying again ?
>
>> You really should be
>> ashamed..
>
> Why?
>
>> But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
>
> Oh my! Does somebody feel judgement proof?
>
When a jury finds that he lied to me as I have shown,
the judgment can just as easily go against him.
In making this threat he has handed me a knife and invited
me to cut his throat...
all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
A
"Rod", it's plainly clear that you're around 14 years old. And I don’t
wish dialog further with a minor.
Now go get yourself a nice glass of chocolate milk and go to bed.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 10:00 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
>
> "Rod", it's plainly clear that you're around 14 years old.
And it is abundantly clear that you are dodging the bullet
And I don’t
> wish dialog further with a minor.
He he he. This has to be the lamest excuse I've ever seen,
bar none.
> Now go get yourself a nice glass of chocolate milk and go to bed.
And you'll tuck me in and tell me bedtime stories about you having
a Phd, right ??
That's alright, you don't have to talk with me, your true color
is showing now...
I will give you credit for one thing, you do the "Nixon two step"
really well!
Seeker
> On Sep 10, 9:51 pm, Rod <kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't post with Easy News
>
> > YOU LIE AGAIN:
>
> > The link above is to this post you are speaking of, and YOU provided
> > the link above as well as Identifying yourself as the person in the post!
>
> No Rod, what I did was post a link to a Google search of "Brian Kelly
> PhD" to show that there was nothing new about "Brain Kelly PhD" in
> Usenet. That's it's been a round for quite a while.
> That thread also included Notre Dame football coach Brian Kelly. Why
> don’t you also assume I’m claiming to be him while your at it?
Oh man, and here I was thinking you were the Chief Financial Officers
of Activation Blizzard. =)
> Now, run this link and compare headers. First I posted with Cox, then
> I switched to Clearhttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/search?hl=en&gr...
A
>
> When a jury finds that he lied to me as I have shown,
> the judgment can just as easily go against him.
>
> In making this threat he has handed me a knife and invited
> me to cut his throat...
>
> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
No ill informed child. I made no threat. You accused me of being a
criminal. That is libel plain and simple. And I am at liberty to look
into the matter as anyone would be. It's okay to accuse someone of
being a liar, an idiot, a fake etc. It is not okay to accuse someone
of being a criminal or having committed a crime unless that person has
in fact done so.
Someone lying about having once earned a PhD is not a crime, and is
therefore not germane to the situation at hand and therefore
irrelevant pertaining to you accusing me of being a criminal.
You should simply behave as if you were an adult and retract the
accusation.
But as to my pursuing the matter further, seeing as how you are
obviously a child, it's your parents/guardians who might be in
trouble, and I'm sure they've suffered enough already. Have a nice
life kiddo. Go to bed now. Buh bye.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 9:51 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't post with Easy News
>>
>> YOU LIE AGAIN:
>>
>> The link above is to this post you are speaking of, and YOU provided
>> the link above as well as Identifying yourself as the person in the post!
>
> No Rod, what I did was post a link to a Google search of "Brian Kelly
> PhD" to show that there was nothing new about "Brain Kelly PhD" in
> Usenet. That's it's been a round for quite a while.
> That thread also included Notre Dame football coach Brian Kelly. Why
> don’t you also assume I’m claiming to be him while your at it?
You lie.
Are you going to provide the name of the university
which conferred you with that degree, or continue with
the two step ?
Seeker
> > I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
> > credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
> > understand.
>
> >> Even Andy Chung was able to
> >> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>
> > That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
> > follow suit.
>
> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
You don't. Why would that be important? Why do you need to know?
> He has lied to me once already about a post he made,
> that makes him a liar.
Everybody has told at least one lie. What did Ace lie about?
> What is to stop him from lying again ?
The same thing that stops everyone else - only one's own view of
personal integrity.
[...]
> >> But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
>
> > Oh my! Does somebody feel judgement proof?
>
> When a jury finds that he lied to me as I have shown,
> the judgment can just as easily go against him.
If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
lawyer.
> In making this threat he has handed me a knife and invited
> me to cut his throat...
By threat you mean his warning that he might pursue legal matters
through proper channels?
> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
What if he values his privacy? Many people do. Why is it so
important that he prove he actually has a PhD?
Rod
> On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> When a jury finds that he lied to me as I have shown,
>> the judgment can just as easily go against him.
>>
>> In making this threat he has handed me a knife and invited
>> me to cut his throat...
>>
>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>
> No ill informed child. I made no threat.
Yet you continue to dance around my request....
Seeker
I believe the word "DENY" would make a better fit.
He continues to deny your request.
Rod
> On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>> I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
>>> credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
>>> understand.
>>
>>>> Even Andy Chung was able to
>>>> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>>
>>> That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
>>> follow suit.
>>
>> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
>> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
>
> You don't.
That isn't for you to decide.
Why would that be important? Why do you need to know?
>
>> He has lied to me once already about a post he made,
>> that makes him a liar.
>
> Everybody has told at least one lie. What did Ace lie about?
>
>> What is to stop him from lying again ?
>
> The same thing that stops everyone else - only one's own view of
> personal integrity.
>
>
> [...]
>>>> But feel free to go ahead and pursue whatever.
>>
>>> Oh my! Does somebody feel judgement proof?
>>
>> When a jury finds that he lied to me as I have shown,
>> the judgment can just as easily go against him.
>
> If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
> lawyer.
I have one, and I have the post he was referring to as well.
>
>> In making this threat he has handed me a knife and invited
>> me to cut his throat...
>
> By threat you mean his warning that he might pursue legal matters
> through proper channels?
>
>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>
> What if he values his privacy?
If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
Many people do. Why is it so
> important that he prove he actually has a PhD?
>
>
It goes to personal honesty and integrity, which I feel he lacks,
judging by the responses he gave.
Rod
Whatever works for you..
Rod
>>
>>> On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I'm aware of that. However, this one claims to have a
>>>> degree in behavioral sciences, and thusly required to be
>>>> licensed by law.
>>
>>> Cite the law that states I have to carry a license because I obtained
>>> a PhD in Behavioral Science.
>>> I'd really like to see you produce that, "Rod".
>>
>> That depends on your practice.
>>
>> issue your degree, as i requested earlier.
>
> offer him a nice benefit package and a competitive salary. That is
> why he is giving you his resume - right? You wouldn't hire just
> anybody now?
>
> LOL!
>
>>> you?
>>
>> You do have a degree as you stated, right ?
>
>
What...Brian now needs your help to overcome me, or is it that you
can't restrain yourself from attacking me and that one on one is
to much for a coward like you to handle ?
Want me to hand you a knife and turn my back, make it easy for you ?
THis isn't your fight asswipe, stay out of it.
Seeker
> On 9/11/2010 1:00 AM, Seeker wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
> >>> credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
> >>> understand.
>
> >>>> Even Andy Chung was able to
> >>>> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>
> >>> That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
> >>> follow suit.
>
> >> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
> >> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
>
> > You don't.
>
> That isn't for you to decide.
It is decided by reality. I just inform you of what reality has
done. I'm just the messenger.
[...]
> > If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
> > lawyer.
I do hope you take this advise to heart.
[...]
> >> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
> >> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
> >> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>
> > What if he values his privacy?
>
> If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
> as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
> forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
So that is why you accused him of being a criminal? What libel did he
make against Andy? Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
> Many people do. Why is it so
>
> > important that he prove he actually has a PhD?
>
> It goes to personal honesty and integrity, which I feel he lacks,
> judging by the responses he gave.
You know when I had a Doctor's handle it was a joke. People do that.
Sometimes the handle is not to be taken seriously. As for ABC
somebody in the field needs to step up and put an end to all that.
It's a down right travesty.
Rod
> On Sep 10, 11:13 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2010 1:00 AM, Seeker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
>>>>> credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
>>>>> understand.
>>
>>>>>> Even Andy Chung was able to
>>>>>> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>>
>>>>> That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
>>>>> follow suit.
>>
>>>> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
>>>> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
>>
>>> You don't.
>>
>> That isn't for you to decide.
>
> It is decided by reality. I just inform you of what reality has
> done. I'm just the messenger.
BS
>
>
> [...]
>>> If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
>>> lawyer.
>
> I do hope you take this advise to heart.
Advice...advice is spelled with a c, not an s. There is some advice
you can take to heart.
>
>
> [...]
>>>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
>>>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
>>>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>>
>>> What if he values his privacy?
>>
>> If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
>> as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
>> forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
>
> So that is why you accused him of being a criminal?
I don't know that he is who he claims to be, and he is less
convincing when he refuses to prove it.
What libel did he
> make against Andy?
You aren't able to go back thru the threads and read for yourself ?
Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
Why not ask him ? I'm not answering for Andy, he can speak for himself.
>
>> Many people do. Why is it so
>>
>>> important that he prove he actually has a PhD?
>>
>> It goes to personal honesty and integrity, which I feel he lacks,
>> judging by the responses he gave.
>
> You know when I had a Doctor's handle it was a joke. People do that.
So do con men and usenutters...
> Sometimes the handle is not to be taken seriously.
Don't fret then, for I don't take you seriously.
A
>
> It is decided by reality. I just inform you of what reality has
> done. I'm just the messenger.
Unfortunately "Rod" is at that stage of development where he thinks he
knows better about real life situations than any danged grown up, no
matter what. This is why parents and guardians need to keep a tight
reign on children's internet use.
A*
A
>
> > Yet you continue to dance around my request....
>
> I believe the word "DENY" would make a better fit.
>
> He continues to deny your request.
It's not really a request, it's the petulant demand of a teenager. And
of course he's having a meltdown over it not being met.
You and I share in the same desire to educate the boy, but it's
plainly obvious he's untouchable at this phase. It's simply something
he'll have to grow out of.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 3:15 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/10/2010 1:22 PM, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Rod wrote:
>>>> Rod wrote:
>>>>> Brian Kelly (aka Ace) wrote:
>>>>>> Rod wrote:
>>>>>>> Brian Kelly (aka Ace) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, so along with MU, that makes two. Anyone else? Anyone?...
>>
>>>>>>>> A*
>>
>>>>>>> Why ? Are you going to do them as you have Chung ?
>>
>>>>>> Is that a Yes or No, Rod?
>>
>>>>> It's neither. I am aware of Chung and MU and have spoken
>>>>> with them both on occasion, and your problem with this is what ?
>>
>>>>>> I'm only doing unto Chung as he's done unto others. It's a 2 way
>>>>>> street.
>>
>>>>> I wasn't asking about what you have done to Chung, I was asking about
>>>>> what you plan to do to his friends. Here are the questions below again;
>>
>>>>> Why ? Are you going to do them as you have Chung ?
>>
>>>> It's okay, you've already given your answer. You'll find a way to
>>>> justify any libel you create. Andrew shouldn't have any friends
>>>> in your view if they don't wish to be libeled.
>>
>>>> I believe that you claimed your name was Dr.Brian Kelly, and that
>>>> you have a Phd in behavioral sciences....
>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> Path:
>>>> g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easy news.com!easynews!core-easynews-01!easynews.com!en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com .POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>> From: Ace*<avlvsveryo...@hotmail.com>
>>>> Organization:http://groups.google.com
>>>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Newsgroups: alt.vacation.las-vegas
>>>> Subject: I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> Lines: 7
>>>> X-Complaints-To: ab...@easynews.com
>>>> X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
>>>> otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:11:17 -0500
>>
>>>> I am Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>>
>>>> I am your GOD! You will learn to WORSHIP ME. You will LICK MY FEET.
>>
>>>> You will bow down to me.
>>
>>>> Dr. Brian Kelly, PhD.
>>
>>
>>> Brian Kelly in Bellevue, Washington only has a B.A. in business
>>> psychology:
>>
>>> http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp
>>
>> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
>> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
>> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
>
> Who was defrauded? What was the computer crime?
>
>
Who accused him of committing any ? They investigate to see
if there is a crime, after all I still can't get him to prove
that he is who he claims, and someone posing as Brian Kelly
may have stolen this identity, as if this doesn't happen
on usenet.
Seeker
> On 9/11/2010 1:21 AM, Seeker wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 10, 11:13 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/11/2010 1:00 AM, Seeker wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>>>> I'm going to go with why Ace is under obligation to produce his
> >>>>> credentials when you ask for them. Yeah that is the part I don't
> >>>>> understand.
>
> >>>>>> Even Andy Chung was able to
> >>>>>> produce his credentials when I requested them.
>
> >>>>> That Andy choose to do so doesn't mean everybody else is required to
> >>>>> follow suit.
>
> >>>> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
> >>>> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
>
> >>> You don't.
>
> >> That isn't for you to decide.
>
> > It is decided by reality. I just inform you of what reality has
> > done. I'm just the messenger.
>
> BS
Perhaps I am wrong. You explain to me how you will know his
qualification if he does not provide them. You have rejected the idea
that you will not know so explain to me how you will know. Maybe a
little bird will provide his qualifications and that is how you will
know them. I'm listening.
> >>> If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
> >>> lawyer.
>
> > I do hope you take this advise to heart.
>
> Advice...advice is spelled with a c, not an s. There is some advice
> you can take to heart.
It won't do any good. My spelling is beyond help. I can't spell and
you can't stop yourself from shooting your mouth of and getting into
trouble.
> > [...]
> >>>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
> >>>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
> >>>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>
> >>> What if he values his privacy?
>
> >> If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
> >> as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
> >> forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
>
> > So that is why you accused him of being a criminal?
>
> I don't know that he is who he claims to be, and he is less
> convincing when he refuses to prove it.
How is that criminal?
> What libel did he
>
> > make against Andy?
>
> You aren't able to go back thru the threads and read for yourself ?
Oh I see. It's going to be wild goose chases rather than answers.
> Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
>
> Why not ask him ? I'm not answering for Andy, he can speak for himself.
But you do defend Andy when logic dictates that Andy should defend
himself.
[...]
> > You know when I had a Doctor's handle it was a joke. People do that.
>
> So do con men and usenutters...
>
> > Sometimes the handle is not to be taken seriously.
>
> Don't fret then, for I don't take you seriously.
I'm glad for your sake that I didn't adviCe you to not jump in front
of a bus.
Rod
I went back to have a look at the post you are referring to,
and you both are reading into what I was saying.
Seeker
> >>> psychology:
>
> >>>http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp
>
> >> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
> >> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
> >> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
>
> > Who was defrauded? What was the computer crime?
>
> Who accused him of committing any ?
It was implication. Didn't somebody write "Now "doctor" Kelly is
going to get a visit from some nice people in the state of Washington,
I believe it has something to do with fraud and computer crime..."?
Do you remember who might have written that?
> They investigate to see
> if there is a crime, after all I still can't get him to prove
> that he is who he claims,
Ace claims to be Ace, except when he claims to be "not Ace".
> . . . and someone posing as Brian Kelly
> may have stolen this identity, as if this doesn't happen
> on usenet.
Do you have any idea how many Brian Kelly's there are in the US?
Seeker
None of the above. How is it an attack to ask you why you need to
know where Ace graduated? As for me being a coward and going one on
one we were just there and I was quite comfortable. Didn't you
compare it to a knife fight? I don't think it was as comfortable for
you as it was for me.
> Want me to hand you a knife and turn my back, make it easy for you ?
No need Rod. It is always easy for me. All I have to do is pursue
truth.
> THis isn't your fight asswipe, stay out of it.
Oh I didn't know this was a private matter. How indiscreet of me.
<sarcasm>
A
> I do hope you take this advise to heart.
>
> [...]
>
> > >> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
> > >> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
> > >> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>
> > > What if he values his privacy?
>
> > If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
> > as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
> > forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
Of course the kid doesn't understand that I've never come close to
challenging Dr. Chung's credentials as a cardiologist.
And again, it's funny to watch someone who wants to remain completely
anonymous demand that someone else give up their right to any privacy
whatsoever.
> So that is why you accused him of being a criminal? What libel did he
> make against Andy? Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
Even though many, many people have made libelous statements against
Dr. Chung, I have not, nor will I do so. Of course I actually know
what libel is and what a crime is and what the law is. This kid simply
pulls stuff out of his rear end. And then he has a temper tantrum when
he's not taken seriously.
>
> > It goes to personal honesty and integrity, which I feel he lacks,
> > judging by the responses he gave.
Well let's see, I provided my full name and a lot of my usenet
history....
> You know when I had a Doctor's handle it was a joke. People do that.
> Sometimes the handle is not to be taken seriously. As for ABC
> somebody in the field needs to step up and put an end to all that.
> It's a down right travesty.
My doctor handle, while technically legitimate, is of course a joke.
The closest thing I've ever had to a patient is a lab rat.
However, I think it only fair to inform people of who they are dealing
with.
That due to my education and experience in the field of behavioral
science, I'm automatically at least two steps ahead of them.
To not divulge my acumen in situations such as these, would make me
feel like pool or card hustler taking unfair advantage of someone on
an intellectual basis.
A*
Seeker
[...]
> This kid simply
> pulls stuff out of his rear end. And then he has a temper tantrum when
> he's not taken seriously.
You have missed the show. His arch enemy is the same way and every
few months they go at it with a full on cat fight. There seems to be
a local sheriff they both call. Poor guy.
That might give you an idea of the scope.
A
LOL. Of course that all any of this amounts to is a "fight" that "Rod"
started an is determined to win no matter what. They're so full of
testosterone at this age. Oh the teenaged melodrama full of knives etc
LOL. Hopefully he'll get over it when he gets a little older and
finally has sexual intercourse. He should be glad he has you to
continue it with him, if you feel so inclined. Just make sure you
don't tread into the murky waters of what might be construed as
contributing to the delinquency of a minor ha ha.
A*
Rod
Okay Jane....how do you know that my name is really Rod ? That fact
is that you don't know zip about me other that what is seen in my posts,
right ? As far as you are able to determine, I could be one of Santa's
perverted elves!
My logic is this; the guy won't answer questions yet he wants answers;
and I get suspicious when someone dodges questions but expects answers
to his. This is enough to make me feel the need to check him out, and
I will.
>
>
>>>>> If a man sues you for calling him a criminal . . . you better get a
>>>>> lawyer.
>>
>>> I do hope you take this advise to heart.
>>
>> Advice...advice is spelled with a c, not an s. There is some advice
>> you can take to heart.
>
> It won't do any good. My spelling is beyond help. I can't spell and
> you can't stop yourself from shooting your mouth of and getting into
> trouble.
What trouble would that be Jane ?
>
>
>>> [...]
>>>>>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
>>>>>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
>>>>>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>>
>>>>> What if he values his privacy?
>>
>>>> If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
>>>> as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
>>>> forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
>>
>>> So that is why you accused him of being a criminal?
I didn't, you and he interpreted what I said in that manner,
but because it is you, it still doesn't make you correct. Kind
of like your spelling; beyond hope. If you can't do something
as simple as spelling correctly, how is it that you believe you can
correctly understand what I say ? Can you prove it ? If you answer
yes, then feel free to prove it.
>>
>> I don't know that he is who he claims to be, and he is less
>> convincing when he refuses to prove it.
>
> How is that criminal?
I didn't say he was criminal; I want to be certain that nothing
criminal is behind his actions such as identity theft and the only way
to do this is to contact law enforcement and have them look into it.
>
>> What libel did he
>>
>>> make against Andy?
>>
>> You aren't able to go back thru the threads and read for yourself ?
>
> Oh I see. It's going to be wild goose chases rather than answers.
I'm not your mother Jane. I don't want to set here for days
detailing everything that was said about Andrew and why it was
said, or answering all those endless questions that you tend to ask
that are normally trivial and that lead to nothing in particular!
Do your own research!
>
>
>> Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
>>
>> Why not ask him ? I'm not answering for Andy, he can speak for himself.
>
> But you do defend Andy when logic dictates that Andy should defend
> himself.
How the (((hell))) does this equate to giving you answers for Andy
when I may not have the correct answers ????
>
>
> [...]
>>> You know when I had a Doctor's handle it was a joke. People do that.
>>
>> So do con men and usenutters...
>>
>>> Sometimes the handle is not to be taken seriously.
>>
>> Don't fret then, for I don't take you seriously.
>
> I'm glad for your sake that I didn't adviCe you to not jump in front
> of a bus.
The word is "advise"...
I'm sure you're warm and fuzzy with anyone else
A
> On Sep 11, 12:17 am, A <sylasd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > This kid simply
> > pulls stuff out of his rear end. And then he has a temper tantrum when
> > he's not taken seriously.
>
> You have missed the show. His arch enemy is the same way and every
> few months they go at it with a full on cat fight. There seems to be
> a local sheriff they both call. Poor guy.
Ugh, kids. I seriously doubt any actual sheriff is involved. Just lots
of comic book style melodrama. Boys wanting to be men. Of course I
haven't studied "Rod"'s overall Usenet behavior, therefore I could be
wrong in my initial analysis. He could actually be a horrendously
childish adult. I guess I prefer going with the better case scenario.
A*
A
The rival's name is "Kelly"? Uh oh, that explains a lot of his initial
hostility I suppose LOL.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 11:21 pm, Seeker<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 10, 11:13 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I do hope you take this advise to heart.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>> all he needs to do is name a university where he was conferred
>>>>> with this degree, and I'll check it out. If he is speaking
>>>>> the truth I'll publish it here. Easy, even for him..
>>
>>>> What if he values his privacy?
>>
>>> If he can challenge Andrews qualifications as he has and libel Andy
>>> as he has, he can certainly stand up to the same. Nor was he
>>> forthcoming with answers when asked questions.
>
> Of course the kid
I'm not a kid. Get over it jerkoff.
> doesn't understand that I've never come close to
> challenging Dr. Chung's credentials as a cardiologist.
And you fail to understand that I have never said that you have!
Your inability to properly read what I've said doesn't go a long way
in convincing me that you are capable of working towards a Phd.....
> And again, it's funny to watch someone who wants to remain completely
> anonymous demand that someone else give up their right to any privacy
> whatsoever.
Another lame excuse to continue the act ?
>
>> So that is why you accused him of being a criminal? What libel did he
>> make against Andy? Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
>
> Even though many, many people have made libelous statements against
> Dr. Chung, I have not, nor will I do so. Of course I actually know
> what libel is and what a crime is and what the law is. This kid simply
> pulls stuff out of his rear end. And then he has a temper tantrum when
> he's not taken seriously.
It wasn't me claiming to have a Phd, and it also wasn't me ragging on
Andrew about his diet. I know that Andrew knows of what he speaks, and
has a medical degree to prove it. You claim to have a Phd...can't prove it!
Oh that's right, I forgot.....it's a violation of your privacy for me
to ask for proof...what a load of crap!
>
>>
>>> It goes to personal honesty and integrity, which I feel he lacks,
>>> judging by the responses he gave.
>
> Well let's see, I provided my full name and a lot of my usenet
> history....
You didn't provide what was asked for. The name of a university
conferring you with this degree, and with some credibility.
A
> > On Sep 10, 11:34 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My logic is this; the guy won't answer questions yet he wants answers;
> and I get suspicious when someone dodges questions but expects answers
> to his. This is enough to make me feel the need to check him out, and
> I will.
LOL what a casebook example of projecting. That is, seeing your
problems in someone else. He has plenty to work with in checking me
out. Although seeing as he's flubbed all his investigations so far....
Who is it he think's I'm demanding answers from? I'm just exploring
the 2PD-OMER phenomenon.
A*
Rod
Actually, it doesn't. Seeker is making assumptions based
on bad reasoning, nothing more.
Rod
> On 9/11/2010 1:47 AM, Seeker wrote:
>>> On Sep 10, 11:34 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> My logic is this; the guy won't answer questions yet he wants answers;
>> and I get suspicious when someone dodges questions but expects answers
>> to his. This is enough to make me feel the need to check him out, and
>> I will.
>
> LOL what a casebook example of projecting. That is, seeing your
> problems in someone else. He has plenty to work with in checking me
> out. Although seeing as he's flubbed all his investigations so far....
I never claimed to be a pro, I'll just do the best I can
> Who is it he think's I'm demanding answers from?
I'm right here, and you demanded answers from me after my response
to you, or will you lie about this as well ?
Rod
> On Sep 10, 11:06 pm, Seeker<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yet you continue to dance around my request....
>>
>> I believe the word "DENY" would make a better fit.
>>
>> He continues to deny your request.
>
> It's not really a request, it's the petulant demand of a teenager.
Any reason will work to get you out of this, eh ?? And Jane knows
I'm not a teenager, she is just enjoying you ragging on me and to
dishonest to speak up. A real piece of trash in my estimation.
And
> of course he's having a meltdown over it not being met.
Not at all. You have pretty much proven yourself to be
avoiding a direct answer. I plan to let it go.
> You and I share in the same desire to educate the boy, but it's
> plainly obvious he's untouchable at this phase. It's simply something
> he'll have to grow out of.
What a bullshit artist you are...
Rod
When did it become your concern ?
As for me being a coward and going one on
> one we were just there and I was quite comfortable. Didn't you
> compare it to a knife fight? I don't think it was as comfortable for
> you as it was for me.
>
>> Want me to hand you a knife and turn my back, make it easy for you ?
>
> No need Rod. It is always easy for me. All I have to do is pursue
> truth.
Really ? When did you plan to start ?
A
> and you both are reading into what I was saying.
Basically the kid got confused by Chung posting this
http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp when the kid
stuck his foot into it.
Of course this guy is just as capable of suing both of them if they
decide to go after him or whatever. I only wish I were still that
young as I'm old enough to be this Brian’s father. Both Andrew and Rod
have displayed an amazing level in ineptness. Assuming the physical
address of my ISP is where I live. Assuming the Brian Kelly in the
website they found is me, or that is the only Brian Kelly in the State
of Washington. What utter stupidity on Andrew's part. He used to be a
lot smarter than that. So, in the long run it was Andrew's ineptness
contributing to Rod's meltdown that caused the whole hilarious
situation. I'll have to forward this to a lawyer friend, he'll laugh
his socks off.
A*
Rod
> On Sep 10, 11:44 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>>>>> Brian Kelly in Bellevue, Washington only has a B.A. in business
>>>>> psychology:
>>
>>>>> http://www.cresapartners.com/resumes/bellevue/kelly.asp
>>
>>>> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
>>>> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
>>>> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
>>
>>> Who was defrauded? What was the computer crime?
>>
>> Who accused him of committing any ?
>
> It was implication.
I'm not responsible for your interpretations of what others are
saying! Hell jane, you can hardly spell correctly, and you certainly
don't know the difference between "advise" and "advice", and now you're
telling me what I was saying ??
> Didn't somebody write "Now "doctor" Kelly is
> going to get a visit from some nice people in the state of Washington,
> I believe it has something to do with fraud and computer crime..."?
> Do you remember who might have written that?
>
>> They investigate to see
>> if there is a crime, after all I still can't get him to prove
>> that he is who he claims,
>
> Ace claims to be Ace, except when he claims to be "not Ace".
>
>> . . . and someone posing as Brian Kelly
>> may have stolen this identity, as if this doesn't happen
>> on usenet.
>
> Do you have any idea how many Brian Kelly's there are in the US?
I'm concerned with the one who's ip addy originates in Bellevue
Washington, not 10,000 other Brian kelly's whose ip's don't.
A
by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Wow, Andrew decides who God has forgiven as if he were God or God's
equal in passing judgement. Then he accuses others of having
delousions of grandure thinking they are God. Wow, just wow. You see,
this is why I'm here.
A*
A
> > Do you have any idea how many Brian Kelly's there are in the US?
>
> I'm concerned with the one who's ip addy originates in Bellevue
> Washington, not 10,000 other Brian kelly's whose ip's don't.
LOL. Like Chung, "Rod" still hasn't grasped the fact that Clearwire is
located in Washington State, not me. Of course Chung first referred to
me as a neighbor in Las Vegas because I also post to
alt.**vaction**.las-vegas. They should form the Laurel and Hardy
Detective agency.
Oh well let Rod continue barking up the wrong tree. He'll end up
harassing the wrong person and then he really will be in serious
trouble.
To make it a little clearer: I'm unlisted in every State and I don't
have a public website or blog. Nor do I hold any sort of license
regarding my PhD degree.
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Brian (aka Ace) simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD
commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
Brian wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?
It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.
It is your fault for falsely thinking that you are GOD (i.e. delusion
of grandeur):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c1dededfdc51d274?
It is your own spirit that is evil and will remain evil until you are
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD and given a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 & 36:26). We, who are born again (John 3:3 & 5) are able to
recognize (1 John 4:1) that your spirit is evil by what you have
written here so that we have been allowed to **know** that your soul
is perishing:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e3c6ff18f2265840?
Only those with an evil spirit would be compelled to falsely write
that eating the right daily amount (32 oz) thereby avoiding gluttony
is a ritual tantamount to being part of a cult and that Bob Pastorio's
tragic demise on Fool's day is gleefully celebrated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/690f1c536d947603?
May GOD soften your heart giving you, Brian, a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 & 36:26) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus Christ of Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Seeker
> regarding my PhD degree.
Well that should satisfy a reasonable person. Let's see what Rod does
with it.
Seeker
> > On 9/11/2010 1:00 AM, Seeker wrote:
> > > On Sep 10, 10:25 pm, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I went back to have a look at the post you are referring to,
> > and you both are reading into what I was saying.
>
> stuck his foot into it.
> Of course this guy is just as capable of suing both of them if they
> decide to go after him or whatever. I only wish I were still that
> young as I'm old enough to be this Brian’s father. Both Andrew and Rod
> have displayed an amazing level in ineptness. Assuming the physical
> address of my ISP is where I live. Assuming the Brian Kelly in the
> website they found is me, or that is the only Brian Kelly in the State
> of Washington. What utter stupidity on Andrew's part. He used to be a
> lot smarter than that. So, in the long run it was Andrew's ineptness
> contributing to Rod's meltdown that caused the whole hilarious
> situation. I'll have to forward this to a lawyer friend, he'll laugh
> his socks off.
But . . . but . . . but it's not libel if Rod doesn't mean what his
words say! LOL
Seeker
Are you saying that you and Kelly are good friends? I have been known
to be wrong before. So explain to me how well you and Kelly are
friends.
Rod
> On Sep 11, 1:02 am, Rod<kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2010 2:49 AM, A wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 11, 12:27 am, Seeker<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/browse_frm/thread/8c9fc10684...
>>
>>> The rival's name is "Kelly"? Uh oh, that explains a lot of his initial
>>> hostility I suppose LOL.
>>
>>> A*
>>
>> Actually, it doesn't. Seeker is making assumptions based
>> on bad reasoning, nothing more.
>
> Are you saying that you and Kelly are good friends?
No, you are drawing an assumption from your fishing expedition..
I have been known
> to be wrong before.
Minimize it, why don't you...
So explain to me how well you and Kelly are
> friends.
>
You made the assumption, you explain it. And while you're at
it, you are invading my privacy..
A
Rod got really boring fast. I received that sucker a looong time ago.
Went from a major, to a bachelors to a masters to a PhD.
Like some people I didn't really make a career based on the specifics
of my degree. But needless to say, it opened up a lot of doors.
These days I'm semi retired and thinking of starting a custom
motorcycle shop along these lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKOXQfQszLk
And I ride with these folks:
http://www.bikersforchrist.org/
A*
@tampabay.rr.com Pastor Dave
<klon...@mail.vu> spake thusly:
>On Sep 10, 3:15 pm, Rod <kc0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Very good work Andrew. Now "doctor" Kelly is going to get a visit
>> from some nice people in the state of Washington, I believe it has
>> something to do with fraud and computer crime...
>>
>> 73's
>
> What crime have I perpetrated, Rod?
I don't know you, so I have to ask, why are all of the messages
written to you, accusing you of committing a crime? I don't
get it. You seem nice enough, based on what you've written.
--
Pastor Dave
"Don't pray for rain and then complain about the mud."
- Suite Caroline
Seeker
[...]
> >>>>>> Andy produced them, Ace hasn't. How do i know he is
> >>>>>> qualified as he claims if he won't produce them ?
>
> >>>>> You don't.
>
> >>>> That isn't for you to decide.
>
> >>> It is decided by reality. I just inform you of what reality has
> >>> done. I'm just the messenger.
>
> >> BS
>
> > Perhaps I am wrong. You explain to me how you will know his
> > qualification if he does not provide them. You have rejected the idea
> > that you will not know so explain to me how you will know. Maybe a
> > little bird will provide his qualifications and that is how you will
> > know them. I'm listening.
>
> Okay Jane....how do you know that my name is really Rod ?
I don't. Nor do I want to know your real name. Nor do I want to see
your real name posted publicly. Nor do I want to know your address
nor any of your personal info.
> That fact
> is that you don't know zip about me other that what is seen in my posts,
> right ?
True.
[...]
> My logic is this; the guy won't answer questions yet he wants answers;
> and I get suspicious when someone dodges questions but expects answers
> to his. This is enough to make me feel the need to check him out, and
> I will.
A man on a mission.
> > It won't do any good. My spelling is beyond help. I can't spell and
> > you can't stop yourself from shooting your mouth of and getting into
> > trouble.
>
> What trouble would that be Jane ?
You have some bad habits. But you don't have to take my word for it.
What you sow you will reap - but not by my hand. I'm the nice guy
trying to convince you to choose a better path before you harm
yourself. In the end it is your own choice. That I am this kind
doesn't mean everybody else is. As with any number game if you keep
it up eventually you will mouth off to someone who is not kind at
all. While you are at it don't jump in front of a train or off any
high bridge.
[...]
> >>> So that is why you accused him of being a criminal?
>
> I didn't, you and he interpreted what I said in that manner,
> but because it is you, it still doesn't make you correct.
So why don't you explain what you meant by that passage then?
> Kind
> of like your spelling; beyond hope. If you can't do something
> as simple as spelling correctly, how is it that you believe you can
> correctly understand what I say ?
Because the two are not related.
> Can you prove it ? If you answer
> yes, then feel free to prove it.
Prove what? Rod I have watched you for some time now. You do mouth
off. If you want to continue then go ahead and learn the hard way.
It's your life. I won't be the one teaching you that hard lesson. I
don't do hard lessons. But the world is a big place filled with all
kinds of people so I hope you learn the easy lesson instead. Easy
lessons are free and productive.
> >> I don't know that he is who he claims to be, and he is less
> >> convincing when he refuses to prove it.
>
> > How is that criminal?
>
> I didn't say he was criminal;
You implied rather than state.
> I want to be certain that nothing
> criminal is behind his actions such as identity theft and the only way
> to do this is to contact law enforcement and have them look into it.
LOL! I feel sorry for the poor guy who takes your call.
"Yeah this guy on the inter web might be committing identity theft can
you check it out?"
> >> What libel did he
>
> >>> make against Andy?
>
> >> You aren't able to go back thru the threads and read for yourself ?
>
> > Oh I see. It's going to be wild goose chases rather than answers.
>
> I'm not your mother Jane.
My mother is not in charge of fleshing out your accusations and
supporting your innuendo. If you are not going to back up your words
then nobody else will. If you want your words to ~fail~ for lack of
evidence then you have the right to make that choice.
> I don't want to set here for days
> detailing everything that was said about Andrew and why it was
> said, or answering all those endless questions that you tend to ask
> that are normally trivial and that lead to nothing in particular!
"Endless questions" are the result of other people trying to get
deception past me. I find the point where their story contradicts
itself and confront them with it. People like that never admit they
lied. So I continue to show them they got caught and that lets them
know their scam isn't working.
> Do your own research!
I didn't make the implications in question so it isn't my research.
> >> Why didn't Andy pursue it through the courts?
>
> >> Why not ask him ? I'm not answering for Andy, he can speak for himself.
>
> > But you do defend Andy when logic dictates that Andy should defend
> > himself.
>
> How the (((hell))) does this equate to giving you answers for Andy
> when I may not have the correct answers ????
Okay you don't know. Fair enough.
[..]
> >> Don't fret then, for I don't take you seriously.
>
> > I'm glad for your sake that I didn't adviCe you to not jump in front
> > of a bus.
>
> The word is "advise"...
Are you sure it's not with a capital 'S' in the middle? Maybe
"advSise"?
> I'm sure you're warm and fuzzy with anyone else
I use to be warm and fuzzy with you.
Seeker
> On 9/11/2010 1:44 AM, A wrote:
>
> > On Sep 10, 11:06 pm, Seeker<hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Yet you continue to dance around my request....
>
> >> I believe the word "DENY" would make a better fit.
>
> >> He continues to deny your request.
>
> > It's not really a request, it's the petulant demand of a teenager.
>
> Any reason will work to get you out of this, eh ?? And Jane knows
> I'm not a teenager, she is just enjoying you ragging on me and to
> dishonest to speak up.
Does Adam Baldwin look like a woman to you?
http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=jayne+cobb&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=vIqLTNyzH5H0tgO-9p3WBA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQsAQwAA&biw=1449&bih=977
What part of Jayne Cobb do you find to be most feminine? Maybe you
would have a Jayne Cobb poster as a pin up?
Talk about dishonesty. As for you I do ~not~ know your age. Nor do I
want to know your age. Please do not tell me your age. I have no way
to verify that you are not a teenager nor do I want to verify it. If
I had to guess I would say the odds are against it but I can't base
that on any known fact. It's just a guess based on anecdotal
experience. Please let's keep it that way.
> A real piece of trash in my estimation.
Why thank you.
> And
>
> > of course he's having a meltdown over it not being met.
>
> Not at all. You have pretty much proven yourself to be
> avoiding a direct answer. I plan to let it go.
Actually Ace gave you a direct answer.
> > You and I share in the same desire to educate the boy, but it's
> > plainly obvious he's untouchable at this phase. It's simply something
> > he'll have to grow out of.
>
> What a bullshit artist you are...
You are right. You don't have to grow out of it. You can stay this
way your whole life. And through all the suffering your choice brings
you repeat to yourself that you "win" because you didn't have to learn
or change.
Seeker
Not only did I explain it but I provided a link to supporting
evidence.
> And while you're at
> it, you are invading my privacy..
I'm sorry. I did not realize that I forced you to post to usenet
against your will. What an evil thing for me to do.
A
wrote:
> It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
> ritual instead of a prescription.
A prescription is a ritual as in “take twice daily before meals”.
You just don’t approve of the semantics.
> It is your fault for falsely thinking that you are GOD (i.e. delusion
> of grandeur):
Says the man who passes judgment regarding the souls of others based
on them hurting his feelings.
> We, who are born again that your spirit is evil by what you have
> written here so that we have been allowed to **know** that your soul
> is perishing:
There is no “we” just you.
Your **knowledge** is purely subjective. Motivated strictly by your
personal anger at having been slighted. Of course you have no problem
dishing it out.
> Only those with an evil spirit would be compelled to falsely write
> that eating the right daily amount (32 oz) thereby avoiding gluttony
> is a ritual tantamount to being part of a cult
Again, your opinion based on how my statements affected you
personally.
Calling 2PD-OMER a cult was a joke, but you can’t take a joke, because
you take yourself too seriously.
> and that Bob Pastorio's
> tragic demise on Fool's day is gleefully celebrated:
You sounded gleeful to me and most everyone else.
You still enjoy pointing out it occurred of Fool’s day. God avenging
you I suppose.
Pure Schadenfreude on you part in my opinion. And most everyone else’s
at the time. And of course you passed judgment upon his soul.
> May GOD soften your heart giving you, Brian
You’re the one with the hard heart. Consigning people to hell for
disagreeing with you and thinking poorly of you, which is your fault.
Making long lists of perceived wrongs against you personally and
holding grudges.