WDJW thought for 09/01/10 ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
turn from it." (Proverbs 22:6)
It is when we are ever mindful of WDJW, both thinking/saying/writing
**and** doing what our LORD wants that we are receiving training for
Him as His child.
LORD Jesus Christ says "you are My friends if you do what I
command"(John 15:14) and "if you love Me, you will obey what I
command."(John 14:15)
The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are doing
what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John 15:12)
The LORD teaches "greater love has no one than this, that he lay down
his life for his friends."(John 15:13)
This is how we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile),
should love one another. We should be willing to die for each other
because our LORD has been willing to die for each of us and indeed has
died for each of us so that we may have eternal life.(John 3:16)
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
life in remembrance of the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man:
Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://Amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
Jimmy Alpha
> "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not
> turn from it." (Proverbs 22:6)
sightwalker you would make a great case study for this verse. Had you
been trained the way you should have went you would not be so girly as
to skitter the news groups with your failed diet scheme seeking fatties
who would grasp at a strand of hope by follow *your diet*.
One can only wonder if you are using this arena for a safe (from
liability) research study group by saying it's a biblical method?
I say it is good we have people like Peter B. who are beacons, warning
others of hazards.
Jimmy Alpha
----------------------------------------------------------------
We don't know Mr. Malcolm, but we are learning about you charlie!
I quote:
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| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ
| Version 1.1, August, 2010
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Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled
and troubled by the controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to know what the
controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts
to provide an answer.
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and
answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung represents himself to be a licensed physician specializing in
cardiology. In this capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c.. If that were all he did, there would probably be no
controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung's other behaviors on s.m.c., in
particular:
- He uses s.m.c. to not only proselytize his particular interpretation
of Christianity, but also to disparage and attack anyone with a
different interpretation or different religion.
- He uses s.m.c. to promote his unscientific Two Pound Diet (2PD) and,
in fact, cross posts this information to other groups in order to
gain more exposure.
- When challenged on the above issues, or one of his medical opinions,
he attacks his challengers as "obsessive anti-Christians",
"libelers", "homosexuals", "people who can't understand English",
etc.
- When challenged he performs Internet searches on his challengers in
order to "get the dirt" on them and smear their reputations.
- When challenged, he answers with evasions, non sequiturs,
dissembling, rhetorical questions, quotes from the bible, religious
mantras, thinly veiled death threats, ad hominem arguments, and other
such disreputable, unethical, and unprofessional tactics.
- He is insufferably full of himself, claiming to have "the gift of
Truth Discernment" and to be "Humble" while behaving anything but
humbly.
- He uses a foil who posts under variations of the name "Mu" to avoid
kill files. Mu's job is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets
a reaction, to cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung can
disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Whereas Dr. Chung has to be somewhat careful what he says and so
attacks primarily through insinuation and innuendo, Mu¹s tactics are
blunt and direct like those of a playground bully.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's egregious behavior
on s.m.c.. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified
in the Google archives.
The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free
medical advice on s.m.c., who cares what else he does?
Many people provide free medical advice on the internet. How does one
know whether it is good advice or bad advice? If the person giving the
advice is, or represents himself to be, a doctor shouldn't that be
enough? Unfortunately, no.
Medical education alone is not enough to guarantee good advice.
Knowledge must be tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity,
ethics, and professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by
their behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence should
be given to their medical advice?
People arrive in this group looking for help. For their own
protection, they deserve to know the quality of the person purporting
to dispense that help and not be lulled into a false sense of security
simply because someone displays an MD after their name. It is the
intention of this FAQ to provide people with enough information to
allow them to make an informed decision.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What's the Problem With That?
5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
Challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's Role?
18. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
19. What does "for cause" mean?
20. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause," does the
physician have any recourse?
21. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was terminated for cause?
22. What was the result of the arbitration?
23. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's contract
being terminated for cause?
24. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for stalking and
harassment?
25. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's accusations regarding
Stephen?
26. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-Christian." Is this
an accurate characterization?
27. What does any of this have to do with the sci.med.cardiology
newsgroup?
Addendum : Temp notes added.
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
The poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD claims to be a
licensed physician, practicing internal medicine in Atlanta, Georgia,
USA and specializing in cardiology. His signature contains a link to a
website which is consistent with his posts.
It should be noted that anyone can claim to be anyone on Usenet and so
caution is always advised. Indeed there are those who claim that the
poster in question is not Dr. Andrew B. Chung, or is not the Dr. Andrew
B. Chung listed in the Atlanta telephone directory, and/or has lost his
license and/or hospital privileges for misconduct. This FAQ does not
attempt to address those claims one way or the other. The reader with
an interest in these matters can easily find the relevant discussions
archived in Google Groups.
This FAQ deals with the poster who posts as Dr. Chung and restricts
itself to issues demonstrated by those posts. No position is taken on
his "true" identity.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
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The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for
communication between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange
information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are
health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients
with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
What do you think?
4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What's the Problem With That?
--------------------------------------------------------------
There is no problem with that. Most of the people who participate in
s.m.c. are probably religious. However no one but Dr. Chung feels
compelled to characterize themselves as the "Humble Servant of God" in
their signatures, continually thank God for the opportunity to
"witness", question others about their religious beliefs, claim the
"Gift of Truth Discernment", etc.
When one person insists on introducing his personal religious
interpretations into the discussions, it naturally generates responses
from others who feel just as strongly that their viewpoints are
correct. The resulting debate easily swirls out of control, especially
given Dr. Chung's intolerant and dismissive attitude towards beliefs
which differ from his. The situation is further exacerbated by Mu's
rabble raising from the sidelines.
There are over 160 Usenet groups dedicated to the discussion of
religion. Dr. Chung should take his beliefs to one of these and stick
to cardiology in s.m.c. It is a simple matter of respect for others.
5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
No, it is not. He has even gone so far as to "investigate" someone
asking for advice about stents and accuse her of being anti-Christian.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
---------------------------
Lots of people are Christians. There is a time and a place for
everything. s.m.c. isn't the place to "witness" or recruit. In
addition, lots of other people are Jews, Moslems, Buddhists,
Taoists, Hindus, etc. Would s.m.c. be better or worse if they
all emulated Dr. Chung in their proselytizing and recruiting?
Furthermore, if you are a Christian, you should be appalled by Dr.
Chung¹s pharisaical, cynical, and manipulative use of Christianity. He
is truly a "whitened sepulcher", loudly proclaiming his adherence to
Christian values while overtly lying, carrying on smear campaigns
against others, making false accusations, dissembling, and marketing
his web site under the guise of altruism. He is "bearing false
witness" and true Christians should be concerned.
As an example, when John Ritter recently died unexpectedly, Dr. Chung
rushed to use this unfortunate event to market his web site. He showed
a total lack of Christian compassion for Mr. Ritter and his family,
even when challenged to do so.
As another example, he recently choreographed a smear campaign against
a poster who had criticized him. Dr. Chung found a homosexual author
with the same first name and then insinuated that the poster and anyone
who agreed with him were engaged in a homosexual relationship. Ask
yourself if this the brand of Christianity you identify with.
7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
--------------------------------------------------
Why should one individual be given carte blanche to violate the rights
of everyone else? Usenet is a community. It is up to the community to
sanction its members. There is nothing "ad hominem" about challenging
inappropriate and antisocial behavior.
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
First, it is only of value if it is good advice. Medical education
alone is not enough to guarantee good advice. Knowledge must be
tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity, ethics, and
professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by their
behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence should be
given to their medical advice?
Secondly, despite his protestations to the contrary, Dr. Chung is not
simply motivated by altruism. Every post of Dr. Chung's contains a
link to a website with the following quote:
"If you are looking for a cardiologist and reside in Georgia,
please consider me your best option for a personal heart advocate.
Check out my credentials and my background. Additional information
is available in the protected sections of this web site. Email me at
cardiolog...@heartmdphd.com to me of your interest and I may send
you a temporary username and password to allow a preview. The more
information you email, the more likely my decision to send you a
temporary username and password. If you like what you see and learn
from this website and wish to confer with me about your heart, you
or your doctor should email me privately or call my voicemail at
404-699-2780 to schedule an appointment to see me at my *real*
office."
(http://www.heartmdphd.com/office.asp)
Thirdly, Dr. Chung has repeatedly stated that one of his key
motivations for participating is s.m.c. is to "witness" and win
converts to his religious beliefs.
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting question.
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
--------------------------------------------------
Perhaps. But not challenging him will drive others away.
s.m.c. is historically a "low traffic" group. Therefore, when Dr. Chung
misbehaves, he generates an apparently large response. This is
compounded by Dr. Chung's need to "get in the last word" and Mu's
provocations. In spite of this, if someone has a question it will
usually be answered.
Dr. Chung is not the only participant who offers advice in s.m.c. He
is not even the only doctor who participates in s.m.c. However, the
controversy he generates and sustains often makes it appear that he is
the "only game in town".
Finally, Dr. Chung himself drives others away including other
physicians who leave in disgust after being verbally assaulted by him,
and other knowledgeable posters who point out where Dr. Chung's medical
opinion might be in error or at least not the only one generally held.
Anyone disagreeing with Dr. Chung on any subject can expect a series of
increasingly vitriolic attacks, including threats of libel suits.
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
Challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting perspective: blame the victim. No other poster
(with the exception of Mu, of course) introduces religion or
the Two Pound Diet. How can it be acceptable for Dr. Chung
to introduce these topics, but not acceptable for others to
respond?
In any thread, someone must, of necessity "get the last word".
Dr. Chung has amply demonstrated that he will not be outdone
in this respect.
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
----------------------------------------------
You are probably referring to an "Ad Hominem" _argument_, which
attempts to disprove an adversary's fact by personal attack on
the adversary. An example would be "You are opposed to the
Two Pound Diet because you are anti-Christian".
When someone misbehaves, for example lies or distorts what
someone else is saying, it is not an "ad hominem attack" to
call them on it. It is a legitimate social sanction.
There are also, unfortunately too often, simple personal
attacks and insults on both sides. While we can all wish
it weren't so, it is simply human nature when an argument
becomes heated or the other person is obviously not arguing
in good faith. If you are distressed by this, see the next
question.
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
--------------------------------
There is no reason why you have to see it. Just as you can
change the TV channel if you don't like a show, you can killfile
a poster or thread you don't want to see. See the manual
that came with your Usenet reader for directions on how to do it.
Before you do this, however, you may wish to consider if a truer
picture of the world is not gained by seeing all that goes on -
both the good and the bad.
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
The Two pound Diet is a diet which Dr. Chung "invented". It's only
rule is to restrict yourself to two pounds of food per day. That's it.
Doesn't matter if you are a 16 year old girl or an 80 year old man; a
5¹ 2" woman or a 7¹ man; a weight lifter or a mattress tester. Two
pounds. That's it. No more, less if you want. One size fits all.
Oh, and the food? Whatever you want: two pounds of lettuce, two pounds
of ice cream, two pounds of celery, two pounds of bacon, two pounds of
chocolate, two pounds of peanuts... doesn't matter. Mix and match.
Just keep it under two pounds.
Dr. Chung's claim is that this magical weight of food, this universal
gustatory constant will cause everyone to arrive at and maintain their
ideal weight. His scientific basis for this claim: none. The proof he
offers: none. Studies supporting this claim: none. Nutritional
explanation: none. Metabolic explanation: none.
And this from a doctor who expects people to take him seriously on
other issues.
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Dr. Chung says it is because being overweight is a risk factor for
heart problems and therefore discussion of the Two Pound Diet is On
Topic. However criticism of the Two Pound Diet is Off Topic as is
discussion of any other diet.
As with religion, Dr. Chung takes every opportunity to introduce the
Two Pound Diet (2PD) into any other thread. In addition Mu trolls
other newsgroups, particularly the diet groups looking for
opportunities to introduce the 2PD in these groups and then cross post
the resulting discussion back to s.m.c so that Dr. Chung can
disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Since Dr. Chung and Mu have been laughed off of these other groups and
have been asked repeatedly not to bring up the 2PD in them,
participants of these groups are understandably angered when it happens
yet again=3F and, because of Mu's cross-posting, all their anger spills
back into s.m.c.
Another reason for ongoing 2PD discussions is Dr. Chung's habit of
researching anyone who criticizes the 2PD and then cross-posting his
responses back to other groups which the critic has been found to
frequent. He disingenuously claims that he does this as a
"convenience" to the critic, but his true reasons are transparent.
Once again, the cross-post generates a firestorm in s.m.c.
The bottom line is that if the Two Pound Diet is "On Topic" for
anyone, it is "On Topic" for everyone... including it's critics.
If it is "Off Topic", it should not be continually re-introduced
by Dr. Chung.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
Mu is a longtime Usenet Troll who has even merited his own FAQ. He
postures as some kind of personal physical trainer, but who really
knows? He has allied himself with Dr. Chung and serves as the "Bad Cop"
in the Chung-Mu "Good Cop - Bad Cop" routine. He specializes in the
short, nasty one-liner and, because, unlike Dr. Chung, he has no
reputation to protect, he can afford to be much more direct and
offensive.
Mu parrots an even meaner-spirited version of Dr. Chung's
"Christianity" and does not hesitate to employ anti-Semitism and
homophobia in his attacks.
Naturally, most people would have long ago killfiled Mu, so he changes
his handle on an almost daily basis.
17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
Mu's role is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets a reaction, to
cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung can disingenuously
claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Mu is also responsible for pitching softballs to Dr. Chung so he can
hit them out of the park, and for re-introducing religion and the Two
Pound Diet should the discussion flag.
Finally, Mu's role is to tirelessly wear down unsuspecting Dr. Chung
critics, deflecting the blows that would otherwise be aimed at Dr.
Chung. He is Dr. Chung's Internet equivalent of the "rope-a-dope".
Insults roll off him like water off a duck as do attempts to reason
with him or even have a civil discussion.
Most people have learned to ignore him and his comment is usually the
last one in any thread sub-tree where it appears.
18. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung's contract at a respected cardiology center there was
terminated *for cause* after less than four months of employment.
19. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for another
physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or another corporate
entity, that contract may be terminated by the employer at any time
either "for cause" or "not for cause." Under a typical contract, the
employer may terminate the employment "for cause" only if the
physician has been found guilty of a felony, if the physician has been
grossly negligent, if the physician has repeatedly used poor medical
judgment thereby endangering patients and has been unwilling to
accept constructive criticism in this regard, or if the physician has
been unethical in his dealings with patients, colleagues, or other
employees.
20. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause," does the
physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for arbitration or trial.
21. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.
22. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the arbitrator
found that the termination for cause was justified.
23. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's contract
being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as he may desire.
24. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for stalking and
harassment?
......................................
Stephen had the unmitigated gall to post the truth on this newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had staff
privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when such was not the case.
25. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's accusations regarding
Stephen?
......................................
The police found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever and
closed the case.
26. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-Christian." Is this
an accurate characterization?
.....................................
Stephen is anti-hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.
27. What does any of this have to do with the sci.med.cardiology
newsgroup?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung addresses numerous issues - medical and non-medical - on the
sci.med.cardiology newsgroup. The information outlined in this
"addendum" to Dr. Chung's FAQ is written for the purpose of lending
some balance and additional perspective. Each reader must make his or
her own decision with respect to the quality and reliability of the
information Dr. Chung provides on this newsgroup, via e-mail, via the
web, via telephone, or in person. In my opinion nobody should ever
take medical information provided on Internet sites at face value.
All such information should be thoroughly discussed with each
respective reader's own physician.
Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.
Further updates will be added addressing issues he makes a point of
to add to his facade.
This document is a compilation of various authors none of which is
Andrew Ben-Hua Chung MD/PhD
Additions will be considered and added after verification.
eoq
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Alpha simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands
with all glory to GOD the Father :-)
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> ... and so some folks call the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach a
>> diet though the Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>
>Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
>I hope this helps charlie!
>
>di·et1 (dş“ąt)
>
>*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71a9e3358e6c60d4?
Eating the right daily amount (32 oz) involves as much regulating
(i.e. rules) as eating nothing (0 oz), which is fasting.
Just as fasting is not a diet, it logically follows from your cited
definition that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet either.
Moreover, if the 2PD-OMER Approach were a diet, it would not be
possible to combine it with a regular diet as this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) advocates.
Bottom line:
The LORD's http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet else the 12 tribes of Israel would not have
been able to physically endure their 40 years in the desert.
Truth is simple :-)
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
"Doc, my right *ball* has swollen to about 8.25cm (3 1/4"), perhaps a
little more? It's about the size around as the top of a coffee mug.
Ok Doc, what do you think? Oh it grew from normal to this size in
about, maybe 3 days, perhaps less?
I told the ER Doc it was about the size of a Volley Ball during our
pre exam talk. When he pulled back the sheet to have a look the first
word out of his mouth wasn't Jesus, it was *WOW*! One other thing, his
name is Kim, and he is oriental." -- Prodigal Jimmy Alpha
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f8253d58852b1f4e?
For an ER Doc to be taken by surprise by a swollen testicle the size
of a "Volley Ball" under a bed sheet means that you are morbidly obese
so that the protuberance of your abdomen dwarfs everything else.
Your being morbidly obese would also be consistent with your history
of bilateral quadriceps rupture:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5b1b0839f48b487c?
"Bilateral quadriceps rupture is a rare injury that is often secondary
to predisposing medical conditions."
Source:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2767147/?tool=pubmed
Yes, morbid obesity would be that serious medical condition that would
predispose you to the bilateral quadriceps rupture that you have
suffered.
It is now no wonder why you are reacting so adversely to GOD's
2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16)...
... the Holy Spirit convicts you about your overeating (John 5:14):
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) is the only way (Mt16:28,
>>>> Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51) to immortality while here on Earth.
>>>
>>> sightwalker, nothing to do with diet or approach making you a lier.
>>
>> Not for the discerning who have read the Bible.
>>
>> Exodus 16:16 is GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach as prescribed in His written
>> word.
>
>This is not in the post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read your post:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84c2b918221d8cb5?
>> Mt16:28, Mk9:1, Lk9:27& Jn8:51 are about immortality for those who
>> keep His written word with the first command to Adam&Eve to not eat
>> more than they need.
>
> Not the subject of post I replied to, making you a liar.
Not for the discerning who have read the subject line of the post you
replied to:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43da3ce173361752?
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a neighbor wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-found-in-white-blood-cells-study-says.html
>>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
>>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
>>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>>
>> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
>> http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
>> 16:16).
>
> That's not been shown true as the *only* "known safe cure for obesity"!
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4a72ff8e2bd693d?
Actually, it is easily shown to be the only known safe cure for
obesity by the following proof...
Null hypothesis:
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not the only known safe cure for obesity.
Prediction based on the null hypothesis:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha would have listed other known
safe cures for obesity.
Actual observation:
Detractors such as prodigal Jimmy Alpha have not been able to list
other known safe cures for obesity.
Conclusion:
Reject the null hypothesis and conclude that GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach
(Exodus 16:16) is the only known safe cure for obesity.
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Carole wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> It remains smarter to eat the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:
> >>>
> >>> http://WDJW.net/BeSmart
> >>
> >> As I said before and never got any reply.
> >>
> >> If the lo-cal diet was so good, then the people in the third world would be
> >> really healthy.
> >
> > The http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> >
> >> If your theory is correct, how come they don't live longer and healthier
> >> lives?
> >
> > They are eating less than the right amount (32 oz) of food per day.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Charlie, how do we know this, because you say so?
We, who are smart, have learned the math that zero ounces is less than
thirty-two ounces.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4c8e72eca845c102?
prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote in part:
>> A sockpuppet wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Chung, do you sin?
>>
>> The absolutely right and true answer is that Dr. Chung is wonderfully
>> hungry right now (Luke 6:21A).
>
> That's not an answer to the question ...
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e9dd6c6b2febace5?
It remains the perfect answer based on the following Scripture:
"See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the
blessing if you obey the commands of the LORD your GOD that I am
giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the LORD
your GOD and turn from the way that I command you today by following
other gods, which you have not known." (Deuteronomy 11:26-28)
Amen.
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW; for you will be satisfied." (Luke
6:21A)
Amen.
This cardiologist is satisfied in knowing from being wonderfully
hungry right now and from what is written at Deuteronomy 11:26-28
together with Luke 6:21A that his being blessed by GOD right
now(Lk6:21A) means that he has been obedient to the LORD's commands
(i.e. not sinning) because otherwise there would have been only a
curse(Dt11:28) and no blessing(Dt11:27) from Him.
Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Jimmy, stop lying
before you possibly suffer a psychotic break from reality (i.e. lose
your mind):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/013d97011bed20f3?
Yes, you know you have been lying:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/363c44ee711557eb?
Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigal http://WDJW.net/LostSheep
May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
you continue to sin by lying.
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Great Sage Itchy
Chung, the people you arrogantly attack here in these groups are saints
compared to you. You are a supreme EGOIST. You do not qualify for human
status, and never will. Even dogs or pigs are higher than you. You
should be living with crocodiles. Stay away from these groups. Your
total ARROGANCE is ugly and disgusting. It's highly disturbing to be
constantly reminded that this world produces such sick and arrogant
creeps.
BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG:
100% EGO, 100% OF THE TIME. NOTHING BUT PURE EGO TOTAL EGO SUPREME
EGOIST, TOTAL ARROGANCE, ASSHOLE (STREET TERM FOR EGOIST), ARROGANT
ASSHOLE, COMPLETE PHONY, LESS THAN ZERO SPIRITUALITY. INSANE EGOMANIAC.
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File a Complaint against ANDREW B CHUNG: Georgia Composite Medical Board
Enforcement Unit: Download the (pdf) form:
http://www2.files.georgia.gov/GCMB/Files/CP Form 022010.pdf
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DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS TROLL. CHUNG IS ONLY INTERESTED IN ADVERTISING
HIS QUACK DIET BY POSTING LINKS TO HIS WEBSITE. RESPONDING JUST BUMPS
HIS LINKS BACK UP TO THE TOP OF THE ARTICLE LIST.
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Chung is an extreme EGOIST. Such people are "always right". They "KNOW"
the answers. You, me, and all others are "always wrong". Our souls are
"perishing", while Chung basks proudly "in the light of Holiness" and
"righteousness". There is no other possibility for a TOTAL EGOIST like
Chung. But just to be absolutely beyond question about his "rightness",
Chung has joined forces with no less than "Jesus" and "God". So you can
"rest assured" that every word from his keyboard is composed "in the
Holy Spirit", and is therefore the direct "word of God" and "What Jesus
would want (WDJW*)".
* © Andrew B Chung, usenet spammer, quack diet hustler, MD fired from
his only job after 80 days, now mostly unemployed except for heavily
spamming Christian Usenet groups in search of gullible fools and
idiots.
Tags/Keywords:
-----------------------------------
Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University, WDJW.net,
2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, cybercriminal, internet creep,
Dr. Frank Hildner MD, old gasbag Hildner, usenet #1 asshole,
certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, Taylor Momsen, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, NAMBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO-Christianity"*, psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, cyber-stalker, satanic
demon, egomaniac, David Berkowitz: AKA "Son of Sam", Ted Bundy, Richard
Ramirez, Charles Manson, chinky lady-boy, Dongdan, "chicks with dicks",
"God loves fags", "Jesus is LORD GOD KING BUFU", gas-bag Frank Hildner,
CFHC, Central Florida Heart Center
* EGO-Christianity - "righteousness" and "holiness" for egoists.
The "religion" of HATE, EGOTISM, RACISM, and WHITE/CHRISTIAN SUPREMACY
(EGO-Christians believe they alone are favored by "God" and their
messiah "LORD" Jesus Christ who will soon return to earth to roast
alive all non EGO-Christians especially those they and their Messiah
hate, including: Moslems, Liberals, Gays, Lesbians, Atheists,
Intellectuals, Writers, Actors, Environmentalists, Mexicans, Puerto
Ricans, Blacks, Buddhists, Hindus, Shintoists, Taoists,
Their "Church" is a television network, FOX-TV, which broadcasts the
EGO-Christian message of hate across America 24/7/365.)
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Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
----------------------------------------
sci.med.cardiology
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboy.Dongdan.Chung-cockrider-for-Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.chinky.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.chink.chung
-------------------------------------------------------------
WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT ANDREW B. CHUNG:
Supporting Quotes
-------------------------------------------------------------
"Chung fucked me in the ass. I trusted him, and he fucked me in the
ass." -Michael C.
"Chung Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and
only job after just over 80 days. Fled the state of Florida, and now
claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in
the State's hospitals." -Shlomo F.
"Chung runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa
$200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its
website. Visiting said website will infect your PC." -S.F.
"Chung promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that
he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the "Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud", where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover*
onto food. (*Acetone - extremely destructive to the nervous sys.)
"Declares he has a cardiology practice despite cross-posting the same
spam night and day (as often as 24 times a day) from the same IP
address (his home presumably).'
"Chung has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women and gay or
trans-gender males. His wife of four months fled some time ago to
another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on
vacation".
"Everyone familiar with Andrew B. Chung knows he is a sick asshole.
Even his parents. He knows he is a sick asshole. There is NOTHING
"spiritual" about him. He has absolutely NO HOPE of real spirituality.
In fact, he is the opposite of spirituality, ALL EGO, and NOTHING BUT
EGO. Chung has no real friends, and never will. No one wants to be
around a TOTAL ASSHOLE. His only hope is to try to learn how real
humans behave by observation, then pretend to be like them. He will
always be a total asshole, but he will learn to hide it and fake being
a real human. He will not fool a real human for long, but will have
something that resembles a human life. There is no other way for him.
His condition (total arrogance) is permanent. His life will go badly,
and end ugly. A total egoist, like Chung, will NEVER admit to any
imperfection, but Chung knows that most of this is true." -GSI
"Another very sad lunatic ranting garbage he knows nothing about..
wasting his life in vanity and thinking anybody cares or even bothers
to read his garbage." -G. Snow
"Chung, the people you arrogantly attack here in these groups are
saints compared to you. You are a supreme EGOIST. You do not qualify
for human status, and never will. Even dogs or pigs are higher than
you. You should be living with crocodiles. Stay away from these groups.
Your total ARROGANCE is ugly and disgusting. It's highly disturbing to
be constantly reminded that this world produces such sick and arrogant
creeps." - Great Sage Itchy
The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"We are running in a competitive race that has already been won by the
risen Christ Jesus, Who because of His victory sits at the right hand
of GOD the Father. The prize for running this race well is a place in
Heaven that is closer to GOD. Heaven is a very large place and GOD's
House in Heaven is a very big house. Let our place in Heaven not be
outside the House." -Andrew B. Chung
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"The LORD may possibly give us a sign 3 weeks from today (01232010) to
further humble us as He did back in 09112001. GOD is awesome. Fear the
LORD and dread nought else." -Andrew B. Chung
"And you and the other evildoers have been tossed into that lake of
fire that has been prepared for you while the rest of us are enjoying a
new Heaven and new Earth in our new glorified bodies like those of
angels."
"Death to the Godless imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of
China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dali Lama"
\
Friends and supporters of the egomaniac Andrew B. Chung:
Satan, Adolf Hitler, Fred Phelps, Pastor John Hagee, Ku Klux Klan,
Rupert Murdock, David Berkowitz: AKA "Son of Sam", Ted Bundy, Richard
Ramirez, Charles Manson, Mark David Chapman, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme,
David Miscavage, Wolfman, Dracula, Xenu, Frankenstein, the Blob, Vlad
the Impaler, Attilla the Hun, Benito Mussolini, Tojo, Michael Myers,
Jason Vorhees, Jigsaw, Freddy Kreuger, Pinhead, Chucky, Leatherface,
Hannibal Lector, Darth Vader, The Joker, Mister Mxyzptlk, Lex Luthor,
The Green Goblin, Sephiroth, Xenia Onatopp, Catwoman, Ernst Stavro
Blofeld, Doctor Julius No, Francisco Scaramanga, Max Zorin, Elektra
King, Dominic Greene, Hugo Drax, "The Doctor", "The Dentist", Peeves
the Poltergeist, Q, Oddjob, Le Chiffre, Mr. Big, Rosa Klebb, Auric
Goldfinger, Siegfried and Starker, Light Yagami, Retsudo, The Rolling
Stones,
Organizations: SMERSH, SPECTRE, AIPAC, SD6, Profit5. Yagyu clan, The
Borg, The Ferengi, Cardassians, KAOS. The American Nazi Party, The
Spangled Mob, Drax Corporation, Auric Enterprises, OCTOPUS, Hells
Angels, MS13 and many others too secret and evil to mention.
Links/URLs
Lasyboy "Dongdan" Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7H_M-APuak
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GSI simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands with
all glory to GOD the Father :-)
retired physician Frank Hildner wrote in part as a retiree back in
2001:
>
> You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:
Primum non nocere
GSI furiously wrote:
<irrationally angry remarks snipped>
Bottom line concerning you, GSI:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a2f7ee7e467a65fc?
This has been affirmed by another:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff30e76c4d3262f4?
... and more recently by yet another:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e8b43791cd65c82?
This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prays for you as outlined
per the amazing Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation
earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, GSI, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
and then...
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
r m
wrote:
> ... and encouraging other born-again friends to also pray for Jimmy
> Alpha simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands
> with all glory to GOD the Father :-)
I received the following stats today in the mail
(nothing to do with Andrew) -
-------------
Doctors vs. Gun Owners
Doctors
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
Health and Human Services.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now think about this:
Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes,
that's 80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is
1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more
dangerous than gun owners.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT
Almost everyone has at least one doctor. This means you are over 900
times more likely to be killed by a doctor as a gun owner!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.
We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on
lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek
medical attention!
-----------------------
r
>
> prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> ... and so some folks call thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMERApproach a
> >> diet though the Approach is clearlyhttp://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>
> >> Truth is simple :-)
>
> >Truth is simply, your approach is a *DIET*, hence it is called a diet.
>
> >I hope this helps charlie!
>
> >di·et1 (dº“¹t)
>
> >*To eat and drink according to a regulated system*
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71a9e3358e6c60d4?
>
> Eating the right daily amount (32 oz) involves as much regulating
> (i.e. rules) as eating nothing (0 oz), which is fasting.
>
> Just as fasting is not a diet, it logically follows from your cited
> definition that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet either.
>
> Moreover, if the 2PD-OMER Approach were a diet, it would not be
> possible to combine it with a regular diet as this physician (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) advocates.
>
> Bottom line:
>
> The LORD'shttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMERApproach (Exodus 16:16) is clearlyhttp://WDJW.net/NotDietelse the 12 tribes of Israel would not have
> >>>http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-14/obesity-link-to-diabetes-...
> >>> Aug. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Immune-system cells that cause inflammation in
> >>> fat tissue may explain why Type 2 diabetes mostly occurs in people who
> >>> are overweight, Australian researchers said.
>
> >> The only known safe cure for obesity is the miraculous $2,000,000.00
> >>http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMERApproach first prescribed by GOD (Exodus
> > > Thehttp://WDJW.net/2PDOMERApproach ishttp://WDJW.net/NotDiet
> Yes, you, Jimmy, are prodigalhttp://WDJW.net/LostSheep
>
> May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
> right(Je9:24), Jimmy, so that you would be able to guard your
> deceitful heart(Je17:9) which is causing you to physically perish as
> you continue to sin by lying.
>
> Amen.
>
> Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
> other heart disease patients:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
>
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
> Approach to get our...
>
> http://WDJW.net/Status
>
> and then...
>
> http://WDJW.net/Update
>
> so that there will be...
>
> http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
>
> Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
>
> Mathematical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=146776...
>
> Historical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=146776...
>
> Medical:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=146776...
>
> Psychological:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=146776...
>
> So that we really shouldhttp://WDJW.net/BeHungryand say we are
> "wonderfully hungry" (http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry) whenever we
> are greeted:
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=146776...
>
> There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
>
> "A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
> put me on some serious reality
>
> I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
> obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
> happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
> up in the not breathing state
>
> ok some call it DEAD
>
> that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
> weight more or less.
>
> Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
> not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
> as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
>
> Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
> heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
>
> Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
> discuss Tai Chi,...
>
> read more »
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > ... and encouraging other born-again friends to also pray for Jimmy
> > Alpha simply because we truly "agape" love him as our LORD commands
> > with all glory to GOD the Father :-)
>
> I received the following stats today in the mail
> (nothing to do with Andrew) -
>
>
> -------------
> Doctors vs. Gun Owners
>
> Doctors
>
> (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
>
> (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
Not by the truthful ones for those filled with the Spirit of Truth,
Who is the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ), heal with the
laying of their hands (Mark 16:18) instead of kill.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
::: Jesus is LORD :::
b89b9937-c19c-4291...@o7g2000prg.googlegroups.com
We do not want our GOD, HIS WORD, our Saints or the Prophets
smeared in a Christian newsgroup by lost demonically driven and
Spiritually empty people such as you. You smear our GOD, you smear our
Saints, you smear the Prophets, and you smear God's Word.
Go to a Muslim group and insult Allah, Muhammed and the Koran there the
same way you are acting here - and see what will happen.
Kenneth Doer
they have no facts or evidence to prove otherwise and only believe what they
read in an antiquated book, however, quantum physics DOES PROVE OTHERWISE.
Must suck to be stupid:
LONDON (Reuters) - God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an
inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British
theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.
In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow,
Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe
redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on
Thursday.
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create
itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something
rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," Hawking writes.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the
universe going."
Hawking, 68, who won global recognition with his 1988 book "A Brief History
of Time," an account of the origins of the universe, is renowned for his
work on black holes, cosmology and quantum gravity.
Since 1974, the scientist has worked on marrying the two cornerstones of
modern physics -- Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which
concerns gravity and large-scale phenomena, and quantum theory, which covers
subatomic particles.
His latest comments suggest he has broken away from previous views he has
expressed on religion. Previously, he wrote that the laws of physics meant
it was simply not necessary to believe that God had intervened in the Big
Bang.
He wrote in A Brief History ... "If we discover a complete theory, it would
be the ultimate triumph of human reason -- for then we should know the mind
of God."
In his latest book, he said the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting another
star other than the Sun helped deconstruct the view of the father of physics
Isaac Newton that the universe could not have arisen out of chaos but was
created by God.
"That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions -- the single Sun,
the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass, far less
remarkable, and far less compelling evidence that the Earth was carefully
designed just to please us human beings," he writes.
Hawking, who is only able to speak through a computer-generated voice
synthesizer, has a neuro muscular dystrophy that has progressed over the
years and left him almost completely paralyzed.
He began suffering the disease in his early 20s but went on to establish
himself as one of the world's leading scientific authorities, and has also
made guest appearances in "Star Trek" and the cartoons "Futurama" and "The
Simpsons."
Last year he announced he was stepping down as Cambridge University's
Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, a position once held by Newton and one he
had held since 1979.
"The Grand Design" is due to go on sale next week.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
::: Jesus is LORD ::: wrote:
I don't mind, but they shure do.
Seems I am the Shi't born of the ASS of a MAN!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Kenneth Doer wrote:
> Yes, well, I don't expect naive, right wing nut jobs to understand, since
> they have no facts or evidence to prove otherwise and only believe what they
> read in an antiquated book, however, quantum physics DOES PROVE OTHERWISE.
> Must suck to be stupid:
Especially the Anal Retentive "Mother Fuckers" who deny Sethians a Place in the
World!
They will go so far as to alter the Law, the Books and if that doesn't work out
right LIE, to take away our rights!
James
>Re: Interesting
> Yes, well, I don't expect naive, right wing nut jobs to understand, since
> they have no facts or evidence to prove otherwise and only believe what they
> read in an antiquated book, however, quantum physics DOES PROVE OTHERWISE.
> Must suck to be stupid:
>
> LONDON (Reuters) - God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an
> inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British
> theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.
>
> In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow,
> Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe
> redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on
> Thursday.
Hello,
"Design"? Perhaps they should have renamed it, "The Grand Mindless
Design", then it would be more in tune to their pet theory.
Yes, we can see all kinds of 'mindless' things allegedly created by
random chance on this planet, such as the anatomical human body.
Scientists have created sophisticated robots, but they pale in
comparison to the marvelous anatomical human body. A sophisticated
robot DEMANDS a maker. But the most sophisticated 'robot' (human body)
ever to come into existence doesn't? Something is wrong with that
picture!!
Sincerely, James
***********************************
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http://www.watchtower.org
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Fred Thomas
"James" <bir...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:e085e3e9-069f-4347...@u6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
incarnation, "intelligent design," argue similarly, claiming that only a
designer could generate such complex, perfect wonders.
But, in fact, the living world is shot through with imperfection. Unless one
wants to attribute either incompetence or sheer malevolence to such a designer,
this imperfection -- the manifold design flaws of life -- points
incontrovertibly to a natural, rather than a divine, process, one in which
living things were not created de novo, but evolved. Consider the human body.
Ask yourself, if you were designing the optimum exit for a fetus, would you
engineer a route that passes through the narrow confines of the pelvic bones?
Add to this the tragic reality that childbirth is not only painful in our
species but downright dangerous and sometimes lethal, owing to a baby's head
being too large for the mother's birth canal.
This design flaw is all the more dramatic because anyone glancing at a skeleton
can see immediately that there is plenty of room for even the most stubbornly
large-brained, misoriented fetus to be easily delivered anywhere in that vast,
non-bony region below the ribs. (In fact, this is precisely the route
obstetricians follow when performing a caesarean section.)
Why would evolution neglect the simple, straightforward solution? Because human
beings are four-legged mammals by history. Our ancestors carried their spines
parallel to the ground; it was only with our evolved upright posture that the
pelvic girdle had to be rotated (and thereby narrowed), making a tight fit out
of what for other mammals is nearly always an easy passage.
An engineer who designed such a system from scratch would be summarily fired,
but evolution didn't have the luxury of intelligent design.
In addition, as human testicles descended -- both in evolution and in
embryology -- the vas deferens (which carries sperm) became looped around the
ureter (which carries urine from kidneys to bladder), resulting in an altogether
illogical arrangement that would never have occurred if, like a minimally
competent designer, natural selection could have anticipated the situation.
There's much more that the supposed designer botched: ill-constructed knee
joints that wear out, a lower back that's prone to pain, an inverted exit of the
optic nerve via the retina, resulting in a blind spot.
And what about the theological implications of all this? If God is the designer,
and we are created in his image, does that mean he has back problems too?
The point is that these and other incongruities testify to the contingent,
unplanned, entirely natural nature of natural selection. We are profoundly
imperfect, cobbled together rather then designed. And in these imperfections
reside some of the best arguments for our equally profound natural-ness.
.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> James wrote:.
Such is the consequence of sin because GOD and His work is perfect and
was perfect until sin entered into the living world through man
(Genesis 3:6-19).
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city
> > or household divided against itself will not stand." -- LORD Jesus
> > Christ (Mt12:25)
> >
> > It is when we are mindful of WDJW and doing what He wants that we are
> > not apart from Him and are therefore part of His Kingdom here on
> > Earth:
> > "Holy is His Name." (Luke 1:49)
> >
> > December 25th is the Holy Day ...
>
> God hates christmas trees......
Esau, whom GOD hates (Malachi 1:2-3), is not a Christmas tree.
> Jeremiah 10:
> 1. Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
> 2. Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed
> at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
> 3. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the
> forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
> 4. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with
> hammers, that it move not.
The trees of heathens are not Christmas trees by the definition of
heathen.
They call them holiday trees and not Christmas trees :-)
Again, would gently suggest that you, Fred, stop lying post-haste
before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e035b670b4ed0bc7?
May GOD give you, Fred, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of
Nazareth --> http://T3WiJ.com Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Joseph H.
Incorrect.
"Sin" is a religious construct. No man, no woman is a "sinner", not
until becoming a religious slave, that is.
We created "god" in our image, after all.
Fred Thomas
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote in message
news:f2ad86l53ntageh3k...@4ax.com...
Gad made sin, so if there really is sin, it's gods fault. This means god is
imperfect.
>?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Gad made sin ...
Your spelling mistake (sin) is clearly your own and not GOD's just as
cardiac patient Frank Hildner's sin (disease) is clearly his own.
retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote in part as a
retiree and cardiac patient back in 2001:
>
> You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:
Primum non nocere
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6aa75b17b4c7ec70?
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> "HE was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar
>>>> with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces He was
>>>> despised, and we esteemed Him not. Surely He took up our infirmities
>>>> and carried our sorrows, yet we considered Him stricken by GOD,
>>>> smitten by Him, and afflicted." (Isaiah 53:3-4)
>>>
>>> Yet thousands came to hear him speak............
>>
>> They came for the spectacle of watching Jesus of Nazareth carrying His
>> http://WDJW.net/Cross up Mt. Calvary while being ridiculed and mocked
>> by Roman soldiers along with the many on-lookers, who also "despised
>> and rejected" Him.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/81f5d3f271c77dce?
> Yet thousands came to hear him speak, he even feed them.
Not in the context of when "He took up our infirmities and carried our
sorrows" which would be when He carried His http://WDJW.net/Cross
through Jerusalem and up Mt. Calvary.
Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> a neighbor posted:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>> http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/crews_remove_wall_to_remove_900_
>>>>>>>>> >>> pound_man_in_greenwood_county/29927/
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > or
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > http://tinyurl.com/y999vmb
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>> A Greenwood County man died Wednesday, shortly after emergency
>>>>>>>>> >>> workers had to cut open part of his home to remove him in an effort
>>>>>>>>> >>> to save his life.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> EMS workers say 33-year-old Daniel Webb weighed around 900 pounds,
>>>>>>>>> >>> and was found stuck, which they say he was sitting in for nearly
>>>>>>>>> >>> nine months.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> The mobile home was on County Farm Road in Greenwood. Webb was
>>>>>>>>> >>> found
>>>>>>>>> >>> covered in sores and human waste.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Authorities say Webb died from cardiac arrest en route to the
>>>>>>>>> >>> hospital.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Having not left the house or walked in months, his wife Ada Webb
>>>>>>>>> >>> says he became imobile after hurting his knee in March. He sat for the
>>>>>>>>> >>> rest of his life.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> If he would have had the proper care we tried to get for him back
>>>>>>>>> >>> in March this would have never happened, she said.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Mrs. Webb says she and her husband tried to get disability and
>>>>>>>>> >>> insurance but could not and she says she didn�t know where else
>>>>>>>>> >>> to turn. She says she cared for him the best she could.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> I only hope something good comes out of this because it was so
>>>>>>>>> >>> unnecessary.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Emergency Medical Services Personnel says morbid obesity has become
>>>>>>>>> >>> a real issue, and now they carry special tools onboard.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> They had to use those tools for Daniel Webb.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Webb helped found the True Christian Fellowship in Westminster and
>>>>>>>>> >>> was an associate pastor. He grew up in that area of Oconee County.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > May GOD bless Daniel's friends and family more than ever during this
>>>>>>>>> > their sad time, in Jesus' name. Amen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing Web didn't ask god to intervene.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While spiritual salvation is unconditional, physical salvation by GOD
>>>>>>>> is conditional with obedience being the most important condition.
>>>>>>>> Overeating (eating more than 32oz/day) is an act of disobedience
>>>>>>>> toward GOD that does result in the consequence of premature physical
>>>>>>>> death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Andy, your wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The condition remains that we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or
>>>>>> gentile), pray in His name. Praying in His name is praying while
>>>>>> obedient to Him.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No Andy, your wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Not for the discerning who are familiar with what is written in the
>>>> Bible:
>>>>
>>>> "If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you
>>>> wish, and it will be given you." -- LORD Jesus Christ to His disciples
>>>> (John 15:7)
>>>>
>>>> Amen.
>>>
>>>Appearently you dont know the bible that well.......
>>>
>>>
>>>Matthew 7:
>>>7. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it
>>>shall be opened unto you:
>>> 8. for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to
>>>him that knocketh it shall be opened.
>>> 9. Or what man is there of you, who, if his son shall ask him for a loaf,
>>> will give him a stone;
>>> 10. or if he shall ask for a fish, will give him a serpent?
>>> 11. If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children,
>>>how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that
>>>ask him?
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>> The Biblical definition of good is that which GOD wants.
>>
> really?
Yes.
> Show it.
Simply look at the first and last uses of the word "good" in the
Bible.
"GOD saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the
darkness." (Genesis 1:4)
Why is the light good?
Because the light is what GOD wants :-)
Truth is simple.
Now, look at the last use of the word "good" in the Bible.
"Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who
does what is good is from GOD. Anyone who does what is evil has not
seen GOD." (3 John 1:11)
The opposite of good, which is light (Genesis 1:4), is darkness where
there would be no seeing GOD.
Moreover, those of us who are friends of GOD are doing good because He
calls us His friends if we are doing what He wants.
"You are MY friends if you do what I command." -- GOD (John 15:14)
Bottom line:
Good are those things that GOD wants.
>> Yes, GOD will give what He wants to give to those who ask :-)
>
>Sorry, Andy it does not say that. It simply says ask and it will be given.
"... how much more shall your Father Who is in Heaven give **good**
things to them that ask Him?" (Matthew 7:11)
**emphasis** added
> You don't seem to know your bible very well.
See **emphasis** above.
>24. Therefore I say unto you, All things whatsoever ye pray and ask for,
>believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Because beliefs reside in the heart, which is not subject to the will
of the mind, we can not freely choose to believe anything that GOD
does not allow us to believe. It is when GOD allows us to believe
that we have received that which we asked of Him that He has allowed
us to have that which we have asked for :-)
Bottom line concerning you, Fred:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ac71a11d1fec707e?
This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prays for you as outlined
per the amazing Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation
earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Fred, a new heart and
a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ
of Nazareth:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Mine!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Fred Thomas wrote:
>
>
> Gad made sin, so if there really is sin, it's gods fault. This means god is
> imperfect.
>
> >?
YEP!
Doesn't make that which is Perfect, by and of Its Imperfections, any LESS GOD.
Fred Thomas
"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Fred Thomas wrote:
> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
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> > Fred Thomas wrote:
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> >> Gad made sin, so if there really is sin, it's gods fault. This means god is
> >> imperfect.
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> >> >?
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> > YEP!
> > Doesn't make that which is Perfect, by and of Its Imperfections, any LESS GOD.
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> Does not make that imperfect a god either, more evidence god does not exist.
No More evidence that isn't God, but if one looks up That Which is the Sum of the
ODO, is God, the "All Things"!
Get a Good Phantom Quartz Xtal some time and Meditate on the idea.
Atomic Theory.
Donald Southerland smoking a Joint with the Kids in Animal House!