Re: Gastric bypass surgery only masking DM, not reversing it
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Susan wrote:
>
> >
> > Bariatric Surgery Can Just Mask Diabetes
> > Bariatric surgery may appear to cure diabetes based on measurements such
> > as fasting plasma glucose and hemoglobin A1c, but postprandial glucose
> > can still be elevated say researchers....
Type-2 diabetes is not diagnosed by elevated postprandial glucose.
> I'm glad the con is finally being unmasked.
Laus Deo ( http://WDJW.net/LausDeo )
It remains wiser to use the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach to lose
the VAT possibly resulting in a cure for type-2 diabetes without the
attendant risks of surgery.
Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat….but
not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few things,
as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD continue to save the souls of you, who are this physician's
neighbors, by giving you a new heart and a new spirit
(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit
(Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
Joseph H.
> Peppermint Patootie wrote:
>> Susan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Bariatric Surgery Can Just Mask Diabetes
>>> Bariatric surgery may appear to cure diabetes based on measurements such
>>> as fasting plasma glucose and hemoglobin A1c, but postprandial glucose
>>> can still be elevated say researchers....
>
> Type-2 diabetes is not diagnosed by elevated postprandial glucose.
>
>> I'm glad the con is finally being unmasked.
>
> Laus Deo ( http://WDJW.net/LausDeo )
>
> It remains wiser to use the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach to lose
> the VAT possibly resulting in a cure for type-2 diabetes without the
> attendant risks of surgery.
As usual, please ignore anything written by this quack Chung. He's more
interested in his own sect than he is about your health.
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Peppermint Patootie wrote:
>> Susan wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Bariatric Surgery Can Just Mask Diabetes
>> > Bariatric surgery may appear to cure diabetes based on measurements such
>> > as fasting plasma glucose and hemoglobin A1c, but postprandial glucose
>> > can still be elevated say researchers....
>
>Type-2 diabetes is not diagnosed by elevated postprandial glucose.
>
>> I'm glad the con is finally being unmasked.
>It remains wiser to use the http://.. Approach to lose
>the VAT possibly resulting in a cure for type-2 diabetes without the
>attendant risks of surgery.
>
>Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
>body:
What an insane shit. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
Hunger damages the brain tissue.
********************************
On Sat, 01 May 2010 07:06:28 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday that
>included potato chips and
He is nothing but a sadistic stalker, and continuously spams the Net with his
insane shit.
On 01 May 2010 16:49:58 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
From: ver...@gefinden.com
Subject: Re: curability of diabetes
References: <28b55c69-a407-4313...@s29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <4bdc5bb6$0$11052$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>
"> The fact that diabetes is today not curable ...
Not a fact when it is written we can do all things through Christ, Who
strengthens us (Philippians 4:13)
Indeed, this physician has witnessed may folks with type-2 diabetes
cured of their diabetes when they lose their visceral adipose tissue
(VAT) by using the 2PD-OMER Approach."
There is at present no "cure" for diabetes. And:
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
a failed blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>
> "What verse ?" -- liaM
>
> Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3492b4ad018e7913?
"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael." (Gen
16:16)
Yours is quite an amazing failure that is being witnessed by all.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His zapping you
in answer to this physician rebuking you and your master, in the
LORD's most exalted name...
In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now
(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.
<o((-))><<
a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> Dr. Chung do you sin?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002d04e8b5ed8bb5?
This physician is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke
6:21A).
The reason this is the right answer has been publicly discussed in an
earlier post in another sci.med.cardiology thread:
In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now
(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.
<o((-))><<
a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that Ph 2:11 allows us
>> to know that there is simply no justifiable excuse for anyone claiming
>> to be a Christian to not publicly confess "Jesus Christ is LORD" as
>> can be witnessed at http://WDJW.net except to confess that they are
>> not Christian (Romans 10:9) because no one can say "Jesus Christ is
>> LORD" except by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:3):
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/John1512
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af211f33ec497845?
>But what does Jesus say, wdjs:
>
>Matt.
>007:020 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
>007:021 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
>the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
>heaven.
It remains a medical fact that any physically&cognitively intact
person can say "Lord, Lord" with their mouth, while it has been the
observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that "no one can say
'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3). Indeed, this
physician has been allowed to provide examples of
physically&cognitively intact individuals writing that they can
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using their mouth only to discover they
cannot:
In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now
(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.
<o((-))><<
a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>>>
>>>>> VAT is a normal part of all humans.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.
Here's an example of someone with no visceral adiposity (i.e. no VAT)
as evident by his hsCRP being undetectable ( < 0.1 mg/L ):
>>>> It remains an abnormal (harmful) part of many humans.
>>>
>>> "Many" does not save you from not having kept up on the research in this
>>> area. It is exactly as stated, happy to entertain any standard review
>>> of the subject you want to provide which speaks directly to the role of
>>> VAT in all people.
>>
>> "Recent studies suggest that inflammation of visceral adipose tissue,
>> ectopic fat deposition and adipose tissue dysfunction mediate insulin
>> resistance in human obesity independently of total body fat mass."
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> Curr Opin Lipidol. 2009 Nov 12. [Epub ahead of print]
>>
>> PubMed link:
>>
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19915462
>
> Smile ...
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?
This physician's smile is to your chagrin.
> ... exactly what I asked you not do.
Incorrect.
Exactly what you were hoping this physician would not be able to do.
> You were to show us about the
> role of VAT in all people.
Indeed, that which is written in generalities as this cited article
has applicability to all people and not just diabetics as underscored
by the additional fact that this article is not from a medical journal
specializing in diabetes.
Thus, problems start with any amount of VAT because it remains
pathological.
The cause of VAT is not eating the right amount of daily food.
Accordingly, the only way to lose all the VAT is to eat the right
amount of daily food which is 32 ounces per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach which is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?
Again, in Jesus' most exalted name, this gentile Christian disciple,
who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke 6:21A), again
rebukes you and your master.
<o((-))><<
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
Folks do this by weighing their meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get their...
and then...
so that there will be...
May GOD continue to save the souls of those, who are this physician's
neighbors, by giving them a new heart and a new spirit
(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of water and
Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that they would
come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
>heart disease patients:
No. Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies. He is a sadist. Following his "advice" can lead
to death.
On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<uote>
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
--
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http://twitter.com/aribertdeckers http://twitter.com/kidmed_de
http://twitter.com/kidmed_de http://twitter.com/aribertdeckers
...................................................................
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
>heart disease patients:
That is insane shit.
Hunger destroye brain tissue!
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
See here:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:47:59 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly
>http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>
>a failed blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
***************************************************
What a swiny attack. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:08:01 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>sometimers wrote:
>>
>> The fact that diabetes is today not curable ...
>
>Not a fact when it is written we can do all things through Christ, Who
>strengthens us (Philippians 4:13)
Andrew Ben Hua Chung spams the Net with his religiotic shit and lies.
On Sat, 1 May 2010 04:17:42 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>It is when we are walking by faith (Hebrews 11:6) that we become
>healthier (hungrier) than ever:
Hunger damages the brain tissue.
********************************
On Sat, 01 May 2010 07:06:28 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday that
>included potato chips and
He is nothing but a sadistic stalker, and continuously spams the Net with his
insane shit.
On 01 May 2010 16:49:58 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
From: ver...@gefinden.com
Subject: Re: curability of diabetes
References: <28b55c69-a407-4313...@s29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <4bdc5bb6$0$11052$1c46...@news.club.cc.cmu.edu>
"> The fact that diabetes is today not curable ...
Not a fact when it is written we can do all things through Christ, Who
strengthens us (Philippians 4:13)
Indeed, this physician has witnessed may folks with type-2 diabetes
cured of their diabetes when they lose their visceral adipose tissue
(VAT) by using the 2PD-OMER Approach."
There is at present no "cure" for diabetes. And:
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
.
Donna
> On Mon, 3 May 2010 00:18:56 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
> >heart disease patients:
>
> That is insane shit.
>
> Hunger destroye brain tissue!
>
> Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
>
> See here:
>
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:47:59 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
> >Once more, thehttp://WDJW.net/2PDOMERApproach is clearly
> >http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>
> >a failed blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> ***************************************************
>
> What a swiny attack. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
>
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:08:01 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >sometimers wrote:
>
> >> The fact that diabetes is today not curable ...
>
> >Not a fact when it is written we can do all things through Christ, Who
> >strengthens us (Philippians 4:13)
>
> Andrew Ben Hua Chung spams the Net with his religiotic shit and lies.
>
> On Sat, 1 May 2010 04:17:42 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
> >It is when we are walking by faith (Hebrews 11:6) that we become
> >healthier (hungrier) than ever:
>
> Hunger damages the brain tissue.
> ********************************
>
> On Sat, 01 May 2010 07:06:28 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
> ...................................................................
You need a life Happy Clam!
Happy Oyster
>You need a life Happy Clam!
What is needed is a judge who puts Andrew Ben Hua Chung in a lunatic asylum.
the crimes of Andrew Ben Hua Chung must be stopped.
.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> You need a life Happy Clam!
Lets keep praying for Aribert Deckers...
Aribert Deckers (aka not-so-Happy Oyster) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?
> > not-so-Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >
> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>
> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?
**emphasis** added
> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!
See **emphasis** above.
Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.
Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?
Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?
Again, may GOD give you, Aribert, a new heart and a new spirit
(Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water
and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Happy Oyster
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Lets keep praying for Aribert Deckers...
That is the typical religiotic stalking by the swiny spammer Andrew Ben Hua
Chung.
FAQ about the stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
==========================================
4.5.2010
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a sadistic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.
Hunger damages the brain tissue.
But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.
Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like
sci.med.cardiology
His mess he bombs simltaneously into
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism
What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?
Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.
What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".
He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.
He is a danger to public.
2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html
<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
From: "Tdub" <gripshift5@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):
(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.
(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.
(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.
In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:
360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.
TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):
You will need this information to fill out the form:
License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126
The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------
http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html
<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio
Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------
It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.
You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.
But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.
You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.
I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.
Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.
You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.
Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.
Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
lifeblood. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.
So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. Barring
some egregious post from you, I'm not going to participate in these
little fiestas. I do think that the judgments you've shown in these
posts reflect poorly on you as a person and as a medical professional.
For you to throw around professional terminology like "differential
diagnosis" as a tool of argument is IMO a shabby stunt, particularly
when you know it to be a sham. So enjoy yourself with the other people
you're playing with. The floor is yours to do with as you wish.
I'm withdrawing from this confabulation. I suspect you'll do your
abnormal normal thing and hang your macro at the end. Have at it.
Pastorio
</quote>
4. verity about Chung
---------------------
On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:52:44 -0700, GreatSageItchy <GreatSa...@null.com>
wrote:
<quote>
ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A TOTALLY EGOCENTRIC, TOTALLY ARROGANT, INSANE,
WHACK-JOB. HIS ATTRACTION TO RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY IS ENTIRELY THE
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES. ANDREW CHUNG WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
WHEN CAMELS FLY THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, AND COWS FLY TO THE MOON.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)
BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep,
usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, stalker, satanic demon,
egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".
Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus
The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dal
</quote>
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp
<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist
Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/
Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)
As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime, and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.
This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall silent.
You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.
Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what they are
doing.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
Sign Guestbook View Guestbook
Copyright � 1995-2009 by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America) 404.699.2780
This page of the Atlanta Cardiology Web Portal was Last Updated on Tuesday,
October 20, 2009.
</quote>
Andrew Ben-Hua Chung does know very well about stalking, and about how criminal
it is. And, still, Andrew Ben-Hua Chung is one of the meanest and most
disgusting stalkers in the whole Net.
The attorneys of state in Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
<quote>
From: Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
Subject: Re: Being mercifully kind (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing
***************************************************************************
body (anorexia) & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
***************************************************************************
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500
Message-ID: <hil5gd$s2u$1...@news.datemas.de>
Sightwalker pridefully said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> Being mercifully kind
Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.
> (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)
Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?
> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.
Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35
Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.
Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
</quote>
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:54:33 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
(emphasize added by me)
<quote>
sightwalker with a phd said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> It is when we are in accord with a message of reconciliation that we
> become healthier (hungrier) than ever.
Andrew, follow Christ and you will relieve that chronic *hunger*, if in
fact it's true and not just more touting your many capitalistic
endeavors?
It is written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
********************************************
life: he that cometh to me shall *never* hunger..."
***************************************************
Jno 6:35
Jimmy Alpha
</quote>
Also note this:
>Le 2010-01-13 06:44, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD a �crit :
>> This gentile Christian disciple
>
>is happy to let his "lord" kill and torture these people :
>
>http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=starvation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
>Chung is diseased.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg
.
--
...................................................................
http://twitter.com/aribertdeckers http://twitter.com/kidmed_de
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?
**emphasis** added
See **emphasis** above.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
and then...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken
5 years or so) his posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion and what seems a
paranoid belief in his 2lb diet
Very sad to a see a once clever man go down the gurgler like this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of his disease - most likely
schizophrenia
Andy Chung the Insane Quack
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
Headline: " Praying here for Aribert Deckers' perishing soul ..."
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine. He is a sadistic Net stalker. He even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.
This is a news-group concerning cardiology, and not the private playground for
the sadistic stalker Andrew Ben Hua Chung.
4.5.2010
sci.med.cardiology
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html
TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html
Pastorio
</quote>
</quote>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp
Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?
**emphasis** added
See **emphasis** above.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
and then...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken
::: Jesus is LORD :::
dda74763-642b-4a94...@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com
I am sorry to say that, but I have to agree. Andrew is fixed on some
strange views, and I do not believe he is just joking. This has all
become worse, and I am avoiding him since then. He has put himself up as
a standard, and created new laws.
Vera
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Vera wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Vera wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Vera wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Vera wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike McLean using a fake name wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mike McLean using a fake name wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Evil thinking and evil loving deceitful woman. Be gone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you praying for Vera?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We both don't need to do we? :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is LORD Jesus Christ not telling us through what is written at
>>>>>>>> Mt 5:44 that we are to pray for those who persecute us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f303fe70bfd422d5?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So now you feel persecuted, because I offered you to hear me
>>>>>>> shout "Jesus is LORD!" from our roof top with my mouth????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This physician did not write that he felt persecuted by you.
>>>>>> Indeed,what folks are witnessing is that you have been persecuting Mike
>>>>>> McLean in your accusing him of being a heretic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Politely asking a 5th time here in this Usenet thread: Please
>>>>>> kindly allow folks to witness your **publicly** saying "Jesus is LORD"
>>>>>> using your mouth by **any** means of your choosing since you, Vera, have
>>>>>> written earlier that you "sure" can.
>>>>>
>>>>> Politely informing you that I cannot do it any more publicly than
>>>>> by shouting "Jesus is LORD" from the rooftops of my town.
>>>>
>>>> Source:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/09e6a31d1ad2d689?
>>>>
>>>> Folks here have not witnessed your shouting "Jesus is LORD" from the
>>>> rooftops of your town so that this is not a request for something
>>>> more public. Moreover, it is written that we, who are Christian, can do
>>>> all things through Christ, Who strengthens us (Philippians 4:13).
>>>>
>>>> Politely asking a 6th time here: Please kindly allow this gentile
>>>> Christian disciple ( http://JiL4ever.net ) to witness, along with
>>>> others here, your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
>>>> by **any** means of your choosing since you, Vera, have written earlier
>>>> that you "sure" can.
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> Someone gave me a good hint of how to let you know I have said "Jesus
>>> is LORD" with my mouth.
>>>
>>> I have software called "Naturally Speaking". It is voice-to-text
>>> software. Now I am using it:
>>>
>>> "Jesus is LORD!"
>>
>> A private conversation with your computer is not public. Politely
>> asking a 7th time here: Please kindly allow folks to witness your
>> publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
>> your choosing since you, Vera, have written earlier that you "sure"
>> can.
>
> What a pity. I liked the idea, though.
>
> Okay, if you do not like this idea, I will have to do the muezzin from
> the roof top by **my** means of my choosing. That is not private, that
> is public.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/96ac06084ea79b4c?
What you propose would not allow this physician and all the other
folks reading this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth.
Politely asking an Nth time here: Please kindly allow all folks
reading this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
your mouth by **any** means of your choosing since you, Vera, have
written earlier that you "sure" can.
Once again, some people, including Den Lille Optiker from Denmark,
have found it easiest to do this by making an international call to
http://WDJW.net where there are even examples of people who had
written they could publicly say "Jesus is LORD" only to discover they
cannot.
This gentile Christian disciple ( http://JiL4ever.net ) again shares
with you, Vera, that when folks make excuses as you are doing to not
allow others to witness their publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
their mouth (Romans 10:9) when politely asked to do this, it does
mean, as a general rule, that they cannot because "no one can say
'Jesus is LORD" except by the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3) and
the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth and not the spirit of excuses.
The latter is the spirit of error(self).
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth"
http://T3WiJ.com
Ken
wrote:
> Ken flakey...@aol.com wrote in
> dda74763-642b-4a94-9e92-967a93b4d...@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com
People who are mentally ill rarely can see themselves as such.
Instead, they think they are "thinking clearly", while everyone else
around them has gone "bat shit crazy"..(Gee....Doesn't everyone hear
"voices"?)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/96ac06084ea79b4c?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth"
http://T3WiJ.com
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
Joseph H.
> ... by **any** means of her choosing since she has written she can:
You should just believe her.
And stop harassing people, Chung. What you do is disgusting.
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> . . . would not allow this physician and all the other
> folks reading this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD"
> using your mouth.
Your obsession is sick. Get some help and stop using religion to
trick people into giving you personal attention.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/96ac06084ea79b4c?
What you propose would not allow this physician and all the other
folks reading this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD"
using your mouth.
Politely asking an Nth time here: Please kindly allow all folks
reading this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
Seeker
wrote:
> ... by **any** means of her choosing since she has written she can:
Everybody can. Duh. People who have phoned you afterwards said they
felt betrayed. Get help and stop trying to trick people into calling
you.
[...]
> This gentile Christian disciple (http://JiL4ever.net) again shares
> with you, Vera, that when folks make excuses as you are doing to not
> allow others to witness their publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
> their mouth (Romans 10:9) when politely asked to do this
Everyone who can speak can do this. Those who speak English can say
it in English. Others can say it in their native language. Get over
it and get help. Stop trying to trick people into calling you.
> . . . it does
> mean, as a general rule, that they cannot because "no one can say
> 'Jesus is LORD" except by the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3) and
> the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth and not the spirit of excuses.
You are of course wrong. Everybody who can speak can say it.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > ... by **any** means of her choosing since she has written she can:
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
> Everybody can.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples at http://WDJW.net
of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
their mouth only to discover they cannot.
With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
monkfish
> Seeker wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > ... by **any** means of her choosing since she has written she can:
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
>
>> Everybody can.
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
>
> Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
The truth is that you are like a confused child
who thinks marriage is all about saying "I do" in public.
Why don't you stop your malpractice here
and come to alt.christnet.theology?
--
monkfish
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> > Everybody can.
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
>
> Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
It's wrong.
> Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples athttp://WDJW.net
> of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> their mouth only to discover they cannot.
Are you insane?
> With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
Just like everybody else who can speak. All who are not mute or
learning how to speak can say it. If they speak English then they can
say it in English.
> Love in the truth,
You wouldn't know truth if it bit you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Everybody can.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
> >
> > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> It's wrong.
Not for the discerning.
> > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples at http://WDJW.net
> > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
>
> Are you insane?
No.
This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
> > With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> Just like everybody else who can speak.
Then please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your
publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
your choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
Joseph H.
> Seeker wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> Seeker wrote:
>>
>> Just like everybody else who can speak.
>
> Then please kindly allow all who are reading this
Only you want to "witness" that, insane stalker.
Seek help from psychiatrists, Chung.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
> > >
> > > Everybody can.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
> >
> > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> It's wrong.
Not for the discerning.
> > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples at http://WDJW.net
> > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
>
> Are you insane?
No.
This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
> > With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> Just like everybody else who can speak.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/42ebe62b37dd9db0?
Then please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your
publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
your choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
ver...@gefinden.com
"No."
> Please provide examples of how often
"Zero."
> and of what kind?
"None."
The word of the Lord in measure of the above:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in
us.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Seeker
wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Seeker wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
>
> > > > Everybody can.
>
> > > Source:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
>
> > > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> > It's wrong.
>
> Not for the discerning.
It's flat out wrong period.
> > > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples athttp://WDJW.net
> > > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
>
> > Are you insane?
>
> No.
>
> This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
Have you written to them and explained your position about the
spiritual requirements of saying "Jesus is Lord" with your mouth?
Perhaps they are ignorant on the details of your case. You should
inform them.
> http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
>
> > > With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> > > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> > Just like everybody else who can speak.
>
> Then please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your
> publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
> your choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
That will not cure your delusion.
> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
No God is not there to help you get your jollies by tricking people
into giving you voice messages.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Seeker wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
> >
> > > > > Everybody can.
> >
> > > > Source:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
> >
> > > > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > > > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
> >
> > > It's wrong.
> >
> > Not for the discerning.
>
> It's flat out wrong period.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/83f3f9d8a32d8a9b?
Clearly you are not among the discerning.
> > > > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples at http://WDJW.net
> > > > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > > > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
> >
> > > Are you insane?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
> >
>
> Have you written to them and explained your position about the
> spiritual requirements of saying "Jesus is Lord" with your mouth?
For this physician to claim authorship of what is written at 1
Corinthians 12:3 of the Bible would be insane.
> Perhaps they are ignorant on the details of your case. You should
> inform them.
See above.
> >
> > > > With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> > > > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
> >
> > > Just like everybody else who can speak.
> >
> > Then please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your
> > publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
> > your choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> That will not cure your delusion.
This physician does not suffer from your delusion that you can say
"Jesus is LORD" using your mouth **without** the help of the Holy
Spirit.
Politely asking once more here:
Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
ver...@gefinden.com
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> > > > > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > > > > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> > > > It's wrong.
>
> > > Not for the discerning.
>
> > It's flat out wrong period.
>
> Source:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/83f3f9d8a32d8a9b?
>
> Clearly you are not among the discerning.
You cannot demonstrate that. Sorry but your variation on the No True
Scotsman fallacy won't demonstrate your claim either.
> > > > > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples athttp://WDJW.net
> > > > > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > > > > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
>
> > > > Are you insane?
>
> > > No.
>
> > > This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
>
> > >http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
>
> > Have you written to them and explained your position about the
> > spiritual requirements of saying "Jesus is Lord" with your mouth?
>
> For this physician to claim authorship of what is written at 1
> Corinthians 12:3 of the Bible would be insane.
Are you unable to tell that was not what I said? Have you explained
to them in detail the beliefs you hold. I'm not asking you to claim
to be the author of Corinthians. Just tell them the beliefs you
actually hold regarding the spiritual requirements of saying a certain
phrase and the lengths you go to in order to get people to call you.
Surely you have nothing to fear from making such authorities aware of
your insight.
> > Perhaps they are ignorant on the details of your case. You should
> > inform them.
>
> See above.
Where you deflected my inquiry as if I had asked you to claim
authorship of Corinthians? Can you not see what is wrong with your
deflection?
> > > > > With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Seeker,
> > > > > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> > > > Just like everybody else who can speak.
>
> > > Then please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your
> > > publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of
> > > your choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> > That will not cure your delusion.
>
> This physician does not suffer from your delusion that you can say
> "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth **without** the help of the Holy
> Spirit.
Can't you tell that isn't what I meant? Me saying "Jesus is Lord"
will not cure you from your delusion that nobody can say so without
being powered to do so by a certain divine person.
> Politely asking once more here:
There is never anything polite about you trying to trick people into
sending you voice messages so that you can get your jollies. What you
do is never polite.
> Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
[...]
> Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion . . .
This is sin. Please stop doing that.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> [...] in part by Seeker
>
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
politely and patiently asks once more:
Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Seeker
wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
>
> > [...] in part by Seeker
>
> > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
>
> After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> politely and patiently asks once more:
>
> Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
I asked you what phrases cannot be said by those who can say "Jesus is
Lord"? What phrase cannot be said in the same breath as "Jesus is
Lord"? For example could someone say "Jesus is Lord - the Holy Spirit
does not empower me to say this - Jesus is Lord"?
How you deal with such a phrase, either by lying, editing the
recording, self justifying, rationalizing, or dispelling your delusion
- that could be interesting. If you can think of a phrase X so that X
cannot be said by someone who can say "Jesus is Lord" then I will
consider helping you out provided it is not too offensive. For
example I won't participate if you want me to use profanity.
Let's face it. Anybody who can say "Jesus is Lord" can say anything
else in the English language for there are no spiritual restrictions
on speech. If someone can talk then they can say "Jesus is Lord". If
someone can talk they can say anything. So if someone can say "Jesus
is Lord" then there is no phrase in English they cannot say. Tricky
pronunciations and tongue twisters exempt of course but those are not
spiritually determined either.
> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
It doesn't work like a magic spell.
[...]
> Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
You are in sin. Please stop.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
After noting your attempt to find a valid excuse for not providing the
evidence that you can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth as
you have claimed you can, this physician politely and perseveringly
asks you once more:
Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
monkfish
> Seeker wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/
msg/406e97672c5477bf?
>>
>> [...] in part by Seeker
>>
>> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
>> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
>> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>>
>> I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
>> is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered by
>> the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then I
>> might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to figure
>> out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem depending on
>> whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
>
> After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> politely and patiently asks once more:
>
> Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
Never been to a church?
No idea what people do there?
BTW the cardiology newsgroup is also
for sick people and their caretakers.
You really should be ashamed of yourself.
--
monkfish
monkfish
Is this your excuse for your failure
to go to church and to heal sick people?
Did Christ ask sick people to call Him Lord?
--
monkfish
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> After noting your attempt to find a valid excuse . . .
You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
monkfish wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Seeker wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > ... by **any** means of her choosing since she has written she can:
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/723cbcc3910e5cae?
> >
> >> Everybody can.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c4373bb727a158e6?
> >
> > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> The truth is that you are like a confused child
> who thinks marriage is all about saying "I do" in public.
But Help Mates and Partners, especially the damn Strange Women, have no Place
in the World, Right???
I mean GOD said "STONE EM", Right?
Not what MY GOD, say's at all.
Like Jesus is quoted in Mat. 19:12, We Exist.
So get used to it.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
> > Dr. Chung do you sin?
Sin the "Creator, God" of the Babylonians.
How dare the Uir of Nanna and Dagda Exist.
Hyperboreans are "STRANGERS"!!!!
They have no Place in this World!
NUKE ENGLAND, before the Fallen Angels, Breed a Satan!
pyotr filipivich
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
Chung apparently believes in Magic. But them most protestants
seem to as well. Say "the sinner's prayer" "Repeat this verse" -
say the magic phrase, and the spell is either broken or made. And now
you will be safe from all bad things!
That's not only unrealistic, but unbiblical.
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
Monotheism, someone has said, offers two simple axioms:
1) There is a God.
2) It's not you.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
> On May 9, 11:12 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Seeker wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
Must be Shatner, and the Scientologists!
"FIRE SERPENT" of ANWR, which "The Government is Well Aware Of".
NASA, even traces his Predictions, because unlike so many others, he is about 80%
Accurate!
Following his predictions, they "CAUGHT" the First Ever Earth Quake "IN MOTION"!
But that isn't true, Swartzhisnamethere, didn't "Take Office", during a State of
Emergency, there was no Quake!!!!!
RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > > > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > > > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
> >
> > > It's wrong.
> >
> > Not for the discerning.
>
> It's flat out wrong period.
>
> > > > Indeed, all who are reading this can find examples athttp://WDJW.net
> > > > of people who had written that they could day "Jesus is LORD" using
> > > > their mouth only to discover they cannot.
> >
> > > Are you insane?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > This physician would not be a member of the AMA if he were insane:
>
> Have you written to them and explained your position about the
> spiritual requirements of saying "Jesus is Lord" with your mouth?
> Perhaps they are ignorant on the details of your case. You should
> inform them.
>
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
> On May 9, 4:09 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
> [...]
> > > > > > Incorrect because it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > > > > > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
> >
> > > > > It's wrong.
> >
> > > > Not for the discerning.
> >
> > > It's flat out wrong period.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > >
> > Clearly you are not among the discerning.
>
> You cannot demonstrate that. Sorry but your variation on the No True
> Scotsman fallacy won't demonstrate your claim either.
Don't "INSULT THE CLANS", for NAZI'S!
White Boys, are Far Different than the Red's.
The Rou Ge of Atilla, you know the/D Rakhine, the Sidthe!
Joined with the Bears of Briton to STOMP THEM ONE!
THEY just can't accept it, and would destroy their own beliefs and even the WORLD,
to DENY such TRUTH!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
"GOD IS LORD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The UNKNOWN FACELESS ONE"!!!!!!!!
Worship, of The "Host of Heaven", is a Blasphemy before God.
A Violation of the Laws of Moses, and
a Return to Idolatry.
You go Worship a "Golden Calf", I know better!!!!!!!!!!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Seeker
Wow, you see a lot of things that do not exist. Have you seen a
shrink about this problem?
> May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker
Why are you not concerned for your perishing soul
> by giving you a new heart
Sorry but that will not give me your delusion.
> and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
> water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5),http://WDJW.net/Forgivenby Him so that
> you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
That happened thirty years ago. I didn't suffer from your delusion
back then either.
[...]
> Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation"
You are in sin. Please stop.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
How long have you been having these delusions?
> May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
> and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
> water and Spirit
That happened thirty years ago, not that you would know anything about
such matters. You are a bit oblivious to anything you did not
imagine.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
>
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
Is it really a lie if you delude yourself into believing it?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
GreatSageItchy
REPORT ONLINE STALKERS AND CYBERCRIMINALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
CONTACT THE POLICE IN MABLETON, OR MARIETTA GEORGIA, USA.
THIS ADDRESS FOUND ONLINE:
CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON , GA 30126
ver...@gefinden.com
::: Jesus is LORD :::
100520100053443138%GreatSa...@null.com
> ANDREW B. CHUNG
Could you please stop this?
Doing this means that anyone could do the same to anyone, and this would
be the complete end of usenet.
You would not like this done to you, either, would you?
So again, please stop this, and, if possible, delete your post if you
are wise.
Thank you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
>
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> mouth . . .
Yet that didn't happen. When claim that things happened when in fact
they did not happen is it a lie, a delusion or something else?
Perhaps both?
> . . . as you had earlier claimed.
What I claimed is true. Anybody who has the power to speak English at
the first grade level can say "Jesus is Lord". That you either
believe or pretend to believe that you have to hear it so that you can
get your jollies - well that's just sick. Stop tricking people into
calling you. Someone who has done so said you betray your callers.
> May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker
You really don't pay attention. That happened thirty years ago.
> . . . by giving you a new heart
> and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26)
That happened long ago. It still doesn't make me think you should
trick people into calling you so that you can get your jollies.
[...]
Seeker
> . . . IS A CYBERCRIMINAL.
> REPORT ONLINE STALKERS AND CYBERCRIMINALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
What is the crime and specific law broken?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
monkfish
>
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
> as you had earlier claimed.
Even if he goes to church?
Do you ever go to church?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>> monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>> monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-)
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > Simply leave your callback number on the voice
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > mail at the number listed at the bottom of the
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > following web site:
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > http://WDJW.net
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> sense.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > for His compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > that you lack the courage needed to follow through
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > with your questions.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > GOD is the Source of all courage.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Is that why you cowardly edit out the main point?
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > Crossing only the bridges reached is not cowardice.
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > Otoh, not following through to receive an answer to
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > ones question is cowardice.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Do you believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Christ?
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > This physician believes in his heart that GOD raised His
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Son, Jesus Christ, from the dead (Romans 10:9).
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wonderful.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> GOD is wonderful :-)
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Does that make sense medically?
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> It makes sense Scripturally.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> "... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Christ (Matthew 19:26)
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Amen.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>Wonderful.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> > GOD is wonderfully hungry (Matthew 4:2 and Luke 4:2 :-).
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> >>Do you believe you will be bodily resurrected
>>> >>>> >>>> >>when Jesus Christ comes again?
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> > It is possible that this physician, still being alive, will
>>> >>>> >>>> > not need to be bodily resurrected to meet the Messiah in the
>>> >>>> >>>> > air when He returns.
>>
>>> >>>> >>>> Any idea when He will come?
>>
>>> >>>> >>> When the people who remain of this world least expect Him to
>>> >>>> >>> return just as the Great Flood of Noah's time happened when
>>> >>>> >>> people who remained of this world least expected it.
>>
>>> >>>> >> And you will have to give account
>>> >>>> >> for all your proud words spoken to people
>>> >>>> >> who just want you to go away.
>>
>>> >>>> > It remains this physician's personal choice to continue to receive
>>> >>>> > the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and
>>> >>>> > written.
>>
>>> >>>> You are just deluding yourself.
>>
>>> >>> Not for the discerning.
>>
>>> >>>> If you are really getting the guidance of the Holy Spirit,
>>> >>>> everyone here would know it by the fruits of the Spirit.
>>
>>> >>> Indeed all the discerning know it :-)
>>
>>> >> Is that what you tell yourself?
>>
>>> > You would not be asking that question if you were among the
>>> > discerning.
>>> > In order to be among the discerning, you need to be born again of
>>> > water and Spirit.
>>
>>> You misunderstood.
>>
>> You are in error because you continue to be guided by the spirit of
>> error (self).
>>
>>> Fruits of the Spirit would be apparent to all people.
>>
>> Not to the spiritually blind like you and others who are not born
>> again of water and Spirit.
>>
>>> Stop deluding yourself.
>>
>> Would kindly suggest that you stop being deluded by your self (spirit
>> of error).
>
>Do you even know what the fruit of the Spirit is?
Yes, this physician is able to recognize fruits of the Spirit. One
such fruit of the Holy Spirit is publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
ones mouth (1 Cor 12:3 and Romans 10:9).
>Can you publicly write "I love all people"?
Yes.
"I love all people."
Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>This gentile Christian disciple ( http://JiL4ever.net ) again shares
>with you, Vera, that when folks make excuses as you are doing to not
>allow others to witness their publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
>their mouth (Romans 10:9) when politely asked to do this, it does
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic Net stalker. He is a danger to public.
.
--
...................................................................
http://twitter.com/aribertdeckers http://twitter.com/kidmed_de
http://twitter.com/kidmed_de http://twitter.com/aribertdeckers
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Happy Oyster
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
>other heart disease patients:
Andrew Ben Hua Chung severely, intensively and extremely aggressively attacks
other in the Net.
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.
This is a news-group concerning cardiology, and not the private playground for
the sadistic stalker Andrew Ben Hua Chung.
FAQ about the stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
==========================================
4.5.2010
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a sadistic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.
Hunger damages the brain tissue.
But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.
Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like
sci.med.cardiology
His mess he bombs simltaneously into
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism
What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?
Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.
What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".
He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.
He is a danger to public.
2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html
<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
From: "Tdub" <gripshift5@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):
(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.
(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.
(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.
In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:
360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.
TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):
You will need this information to fill out the form:
License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126
The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------
http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html
<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio
Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------
It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.
You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.
But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.
You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.
I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.
Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.
You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.
Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.
Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
lifeblood. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.
So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. Barring
some egregious post from you, I'm not going to participate in these
little fiestas. I do think that the judgments you've shown in these
posts reflect poorly on you as a person and as a medical professional.
For you to throw around professional terminology like "differential
diagnosis" as a tool of argument is IMO a shabby stunt, particularly
when you know it to be a sham. So enjoy yourself with the other people
you're playing with. The floor is yours to do with as you wish.
I'm withdrawing from this confabulation. I suspect you'll do your
abnormal normal thing and hang your macro at the end. Have at it.
Pastorio
</quote>
4. verity about Chung
---------------------
On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:52:44 -0700, GreatSageItchy <GreatSa...@null.com>
wrote:
<quote>
ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A TOTALLY EGOCENTRIC, TOTALLY ARROGANT, INSANE,
WHACK-JOB. HIS ATTRACTION TO RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY IS ENTIRELY THE
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES. ANDREW CHUNG WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
WHEN CAMELS FLY THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, AND COWS FLY TO THE MOON.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)
BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep,
usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, stalker, satanic demon,
egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".
Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus
The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dal
</quote>
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp
<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist
Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/
Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)
As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime, and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.
This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall silent.
You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.
Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what they are
doing.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
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Copyright � 1995-2009 by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD. All Rights Reserved.
Atlanta, Georgia (United States of America) 404.699.2780
This page of the Atlanta Cardiology Web Portal was Last Updated on Tuesday,
October 20, 2009.
</quote>
Andrew Ben-Hua Chung does know very well about stalking, and about how criminal
it is. And, still, Andrew Ben-Hua Chung is one of the meanest and most
disgusting stalkers in the whole Net.
The attorneys of state in Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
<quote>
From: Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
Subject: Re: Being mercifully kind (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing
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body (anorexia) & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500
Message-ID: <hil5gd$s2u$1...@news.datemas.de>
Sightwalker pridefully said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> Being mercifully kind
Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.
> (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)
Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?
> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.
Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35
Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.
Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
</quote>
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:54:33 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
(emphasize added by me)
<quote>
sightwalker with a phd said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> It is when we are in accord with a message of reconciliation that we
> become healthier (hungrier) than ever.
Andrew, follow Christ and you will relieve that chronic *hunger*, if in
fact it's true and not just more touting your many capitalistic
endeavors?
It is written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
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life: he that cometh to me shall *never* hunger..."
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Jno 6:35
Jimmy Alpha
</quote>
Also note this:
>Le 2010-01-13 06:44, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD a �crit :
>> This gentile Christian disciple
>
>is happy to let his "lord" kill and torture these people :
>
>http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=starvation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
>Chung is diseased.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
That which is Blasphemy on to God, is Blasphemy on to God, Regardless of what
"You" think.
Not meaning INSULT to you, personal there.
"Many will there be who come before me, having done Great Deeds, and
Performed Miracles in My Name, yet will I say on to them Get thee Hence, I
know thee Not!"
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
GreatSageItchy wrote:
> ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A CYBERCRIMINAL.
> REPORT ONLINE STALKERS AND CYBERCRIMINALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I got International Terrorists, who control the Local Departments.
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
The Holy Spirit is a "Dead Man"!
You Dead??
Oh, your the ones who think you can change the World, by Preventing the Future.
"If you see Buddha on the Road, Kill Him", RIGHT!!!!
Did it once already, don't do it again!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
The ones I talk about, are Hackers, Identity Thieves, Virus Flingers, and
Spam Bot Owners!
A GROUP, "Black Hat's/Sasser's", call em what ya want.
Seeker
<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
> > On May 9, 10:05 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> > wrote:
> > [...]
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
>
> > > Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> > > confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> > > mouth as you had earlier claimed.
>
> > Is it really a lie if you delude yourself into believing it?
>
> That which is Blasphemy on to God, is Blasphemy on to God, Regardless of what
> "You" think.
> Not meaning INSULT to you, personal there.
No insult taken. Have a nice day.
GreatSageItchy
<4b017630-745e-4856...@e34g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Seeker <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Cyberstalking.
Making illegal psychiatric evaluations of group posters he has never
met,.
Chung is destroying these groups, just as he has totally destroyed
sci.med.cardiology.
He continues to poat up to 16 times a day, the same stalker messages,
even posting them to sci.med.cardiology, a group occupied ONLY by HIM.
He does this to make sure real posters DON'T return to HIS group.
Chung is a sick, evil creep. He is religion gone totally insane.
Religion turned into it's opposite - pure egotism.
Why are you defending him?
Because he is a fellow EGO-Christian?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
Steve Hayes
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Praying a 4th time here for Seeker's perishing soul ...
I suggest you get yourself a private prayer diary, and keep track of your
prayers there.
Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou
hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father
which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://khanya.wordpress.com
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
"She believed in nothing. Only her scepticism kept her from being an atheist."
-- Jean-Paul Sartre
Seeker
wrote:
[...]
> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
You lie. You can repeat your lie a 7th time or a million times. The
repetition won't make your lie true.
Now please stop trying to trick people into calling you.
Joseph H.
He'll never stop doing that.
Chung's mind has been gone for years now. There's only a copy & paste
simpleton behind his posts.
The only thing to do is to watch him slowly but steadily descend into
pure madness.
Cheers.
Jo H.
Steve Hayes
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Praying a 7th time here for Seeker's perishing soul ...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>> > Praying a 7th time here for Seeker's perishing soul ...
>>>
>>> I suggest you get yourself a private prayer diary, and keep track of your
>>> prayers there.
>>
>> thinking/saying/writing and doing what the LORD wants instead of what
>> you, Steve, want.
>>
>>> Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou
>>> hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father
>>> which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4db4b224e3906e68?
>>
>> The context of Matthew 6:6 is LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth addressing those
>> who, being religious like the Pharisees, wanted to be rewarded for praying.
>>
>> On the other hand, the context here is a physician, who is neither a Pharisee
>> nor religious as evident by his advocating http://WDJW.net/NoReligion and
>> indeed, LORD Jesus Christ prayed openly and publicly as described in the Bible
>> and He is http://WDJW.net/Righteous in His not being religious.
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/27a049675863b3a3?
>>
>> For followers of our risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth it is Biblically correct
>> according to what is written at James 5:16 not only to pray publicly but to also
>> confess our sins publicly one to another in order to be healed:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d7ecedbf9220bc13?
>>
>> Moreover, we, who are born-again (John 3;3&5), are instructed to pray
>> continually by what is written at 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 as posted earlier
>> here:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c0cfd3b325167f53?
>>
>> With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), can you, Steve, publicly
>> say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> I suggest you get yourself a private prayer diary, and keep track of your
> prayers there.
Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fd3383540997f1c?
May GOD save your perishing soul, Steve, by giving you a new heart
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
> > Seeker wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/406e97672c5477bf?
> >
> > > [...] in part by Seeker
> >
> > > > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > > > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > > > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
> >
> > > I tell you what. Is there some phrase that someone who can say "Jesus
> > > is Lord" cannot say? If there is some phrase that someone empowered
> > > by the Holy Spirit cannot say, and I don't find it too offensive, then
> > > I might consider saying both. It might give me an opportunity to
> > > figure out if your are faking or have some kind of denial problem
> > > depending on whether you edit it and/or lie about it afterwards.
> >
> > After noting your excuses for not providing the evidence that you can
> > publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as you claim you can, this physician
> > politely and patiently asks once more:
> >
> > Please kindly allow all who are reading this to witness your publicly
> > saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth by **any** means of your
> > choosing since you, Seeker, have written that you can.
>
> You didn't note that. You imagined it.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d82d009c81ddf210?
Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth as you had earlier claimed.
May GOD save your perishing soul, Seeker, by giving you a new heart
monkfish
Just tell him to go to church.
Are you here to prevent him from talking
or talk about your own issues?
If the latter, feel free to talk to me.
He sure deserves to be ignored.
--
monkfish
monkfish
He sure deserves to be ignored.
Do you have something else to talk about?
BTW I only read and post to alt.christnet.theology.
--
monkfish
monkfish
>
> Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
Much better to do that in church.
Are you afraid of going to church?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fd3383540997f1c?
Joseph H.
> Joseph H. wrote:
>
>> Le 2010-05-11 01:10, Seeker a écrit :
>>> On May 10, 9:12 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"<lo...@thetruth.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
>>>> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
>>>> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
>>>
>>> You lie. You can repeat your lie a 7th time or a million times. The
>>> repetition won't make your lie true.
>>>
>>> Now please stop trying to trick people into calling you.
>>
>> He'll never stop doing that.
>>
>> simpleton behind his posts.
>>
>> The only thing to do is to watch him slowly but steadily descend into
>> pure madness.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Jo H.
>
>
> He sure deserves to be ignored.
> Do you have something else to talk about?
Not really.
> BTW I only read and post to alt.christnet.theology.
Who cares?
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:>
> >
> > > Is it really a lie if you delude yourself into believing it?
> >
> > That which is Blasphemy on to God, is Blasphemy on to God, Regardless of what
> > "You" think.
> > Not meaning INSULT to you, personal there.
>
> No insult taken. Have a nice day.
>
Nah, some twit threw a Storm Incantation at me, and fails to understand the Storm
Geates, so "Enjoy the Weather"!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
GreatSageItchy wrote:
> In article
> <4b017630-745e-4856...@e34g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
> Seeker <hso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 10, 12:53 am, GreatSageItchy <GreatSageIt...@null.com> wrote:
> > > . . . IS A CYBERCRIMINAL.
> > > REPORT ONLINE STALKERS AND CYBERCRIMINALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
> >
> > What is the crime and specific law broken?
> >
> > Cyberstalking.
> Making illegal psychiatric evaluations of group posters he has never
> met,.
>
> And Perscribing DRUGS!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
monkfish wrote:
> Seeker wrote:
>
> > On May 10, 9:12� pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
> > wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly provide a written
> >> confession that you cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
> >> mouth as you had earlier claimed.
> >
> > You lie. You can repeat your lie a 7th time or a million times. The
> > repetition won't make your lie true.
> >
> > Now please stop trying to trick people into calling you.
>
> Just tell him to go to church.
Why, his View is "SLANTED ENOUGH"!!!!!!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
monkfish wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> >
> > Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
>
> Much better to do that in church.
WHY so you can "PRETEND", to Worship "GOD"?
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
>>
>> Much better to do that in church.
>
> WHY so you can "PRETEND", to Worship "GOD"?
How can you tell?
--
monkfish
Seeker
> In article
> <4b017630-745e-4856-83ec-686915d45...@e34g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Seeker <hsot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 10, 12:53 am, GreatSageItchy <GreatSageIt...@null.com> wrote:
> > > . . . IS A CYBERCRIMINAL.
> > > REPORT ONLINE STALKERS AND CYBERCRIMINALS TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>
> > What is the crime and specific law broken?
>
> Cyberstalking.
>
> Making illegal psychiatric evaluations of group posters he has never
> met,.
> Chung is destroying these groups, just as he has totally destroyed
> sci.med.cardiology.
> He continues to poat up to 16 times a day, the same stalker messages,
> even posting them to sci.med.cardiology, a group occupied ONLY by HIM.
> He does this to make sure real posters DON'T return to HIS group.
> Chung is a sick, evil creep.
Well I was hoping you would tell me something I don't already
know. ;-)
> He is religion gone totally insane.
> Religion turned into it's opposite - pure egotism.
> Why are you defending him?
Hold on there. I didn't defend anything he did. I just wanted to
know what crime he commited. I like everything to be honest and
true. If you look back through the thread you will see me asking him
to stop what he does and exposing the misdeeds I see.
> Because he is a fellow EGO-Christian?
I play no favorites and criticize both Christians and non-Christians
alike ~if~ their behavior warrants it. For me it's about what a
person does, not what creed they belong to.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>
>> Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> Wonderful.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b8927c1508c7214d?
Being able to say "Jesus is LORD" using our mouth is wonderful because
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
> Listen to other people once in a while.
All the time especially when they are saying "Jesus is LORD" using
their mouth:
> Go away.
Sad to note that your soul is still perishing.
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that you
would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
monkfish wrote:
JESUS said so!!!!!!!!!!!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Seeker wrote:
Few comprehend Mahayana.
Most force the Dogma at the Point of the Sword!
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Wiser to pray for you as outlined earlier for Seeker:
>> >>
>> >> Much better to do that in church.
>> >
>> > WHY so you can "PRETEND", to Worship "GOD"?
>>
>> How can you tell?
>
> JESUS said so!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever pretended to worship God?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>
>> Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> Wonderful.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b8927c1508c7214d?
Being able to say "Jesus is LORD" using our mouth is wonderful because
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
> Listen to other people once in a while.
All the time especially when they are saying "Jesus is LORD" using
their mouth:
> Go away.
Sad to note that your soul is still perishing.
Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
convinces this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to continue
praying for you as outlined per the amazing Facebook spectacle at
http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Monkfish, a new heart
and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be
born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5),
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1Cor12:3)
::: Jesus is LORD :::
jn0ou5lmvti40lb0l...@4ax.com
Andrew, please stop this kind of harassment. Get back to the Gospel of
Jesus Christ.
Vera
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > Politely asking again here: Please kindly allow all who may be reading
> > this to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
> > by **any** means of your choosing since you, Vera, have written
> > earlier that you "sure" can.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1bf262a75a0a3cd?
> I told you about my MEANS OF MY CHOOSING - but you have always rejected
> them.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06b7656ff90c24f2?
You remain unsuccessful for the Nth time since the folks reading this
have yet to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your
mouth. On the other hand, they have witnessed others including this
physician publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using their mouth at
http://WDJW.net because we can do all things through Christ, Who
strengthens us (Philippians 4:13).
Your continued failure to provide the evidence that you can publicly
say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth (Romans 10:9) convinces this
physician that you are **not** a new creature in Christ (2 Corinthians
5:17) so that he prays for you as outlined earlier per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Vera, a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
Happy Oyster
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:
>You remain unsuccessful for the Nth time since the folks reading this
>have yet to witness your publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using your
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a sadistic swine.
This news-group is dedicated to CADRIOLOGY. It is meant do deal with medical
matters concerning the heart.
This news-group is not meant to be a kinderkarten toy for the sadistic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.
On Sat, 8 May 2010 01:20:26 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
>other heart disease patients:
Andrew Ben Hua Chung severely, intensively and extremely aggressively attacks
other in the Net.
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.
This is a news-group concerning cardiology, and not the private playground for
the sadistic stalker Andrew Ben Hua Chung.
FAQ about the stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
==========================================
4.5.2010
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a sadistic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.
Hunger damages the brain tissue.
But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.
Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like
sci.med.cardiology
His mess he bombs simltaneously into
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism
What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?
Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.
What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".
He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.
He is a danger to public.
2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
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http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html
<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
From: "Tdub" <gripshift5@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):
(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.
(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.
(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.
In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:
360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.
TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):
You will need this information to fill out the form:
License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126
The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
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http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html
<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio
Just something for many of you to think about.
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It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.
You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.
But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.
You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.
I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.
Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.
You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.
Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.
Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
lifeblood. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.
So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. Barring
some egregious post from you, I'm not going to participate in these
little fiestas. I do think that the judgments you've shown in these
posts reflect poorly on you as a person and as a medical professional.
For you to throw around professional terminology like "differential
diagnosis" as a tool of argument is IMO a shabby stunt, particularly
when you know it to be a sham. So enjoy yourself with the other people
you're playing with. The floor is yours to do with as you wish.
I'm withdrawing from this confabulation. I suspect you'll do your
abnormal normal thing and hang your macro at the end. Have at it.
Pastorio
</quote>
4. verity about Chung
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On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
Truth:
The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice
All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.
The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.
Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.
There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.
May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:52:44 -0700, GreatSageItchy <GreatSa...@null.com>
wrote:
<quote>
ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A TOTALLY EGOCENTRIC, TOTALLY ARROGANT, INSANE,
WHACK-JOB. HIS ATTRACTION TO RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY IS ENTIRELY THE
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES. ANDREW CHUNG WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
WHEN CAMELS FLY THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, AND COWS FLY TO THE MOON.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)
BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep,
usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, stalker, satanic demon,
egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".
Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus
The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dal
</quote>
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site:
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http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp
<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist
Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/
Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)
As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime, and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.
This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall silent.
You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.
Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what they are
doing.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
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</quote>
Andrew Ben-Hua Chung does know very well about stalking, and about how criminal
it is. And, still, Andrew Ben-Hua Chung is one of the meanest and most
disgusting stalkers in the whole Net.
The attorneys of state in Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
<quote>
From: Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
Subject: Re: Being mercifully kind (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing
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body (anorexia) & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500
Message-ID: <hil5gd$s2u$1...@news.datemas.de>
Sightwalker pridefully said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> Being mercifully kind
Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.
> (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)
Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?
> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.
Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35
Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.
Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
</quote>
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:54:33 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
(emphasize added by me)
<quote>
sightwalker with a phd said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> It is when we are in accord with a message of reconciliation that we
> become healthier (hungrier) than ever.
Andrew, follow Christ and you will relieve that chronic *hunger*, if in
fact it's true and not just more touting your many capitalistic
endeavors?
It is written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
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life: he that cometh to me shall *never* hunger..."
***************************************************
Jno 6:35
Jimmy Alpha
</quote>
Also note this:
>Le 2010-01-13 06:44, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD a �crit :
>> This gentile Christian disciple
>
>is happy to let his "lord" kill and torture these people :
>
>http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=starvation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
>Chung is diseased.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg
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Happy Oyster
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:
>Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth
>convinces this physician [...] to continue
>praying for you as outlined per
Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine.
This news-group is dedicated to CADRIOLOGY. It is meant do deal with medical
matters coincerning the heart.
This news-group is not meant to be a kinderkarten toy for the sadistic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.
4.5.2010
sci.med.cardiology
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html
TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html
Pastorio
</quote>
</quote>
http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp
Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD