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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 4, 2010, 8:24:38 AM2/4/10
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This gentile Christian disiciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday per
the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach and is very satisfied with
knowing that the http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace provided all the needed
good food. Do you know how much you ate yesterday? (It really is wise
to know instead of guess via portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, or
feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD continue to save the souls of you, who are our neighbors, by
giving you a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26)
so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and
3:5), so that you would have His http://WDJW.net/Salvation , so that
you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 4, 2010, 1:57:19 PM2/4/10
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> This gentile Christian disiciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday per
> the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach and is very satisfied with
> knowing that the http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace provided all the needed
> good food. Do you know how much you ate yesterday? (It really is wise
> to know instead of guess via portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, or
> feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise

This physician has had 20 oz of a mix of tasty foods so far for the
day.

Do you know much you have eaten so far for the day?

If not, why not?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and
body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD continue to save the souls of you, who are our neighbors, by

giving you a new heart and a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you
would be born again of water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), so that you would
be http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven , so that you would come

Jimmy Alpha

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Feb 4, 2010, 2:26:50 PM2/4/10
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sightwalker with a phd said:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> This gentile Christian disiciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday per
>> the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach and is very satisfied with
>> knowing that the http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace provided all the needed
>> good food. Do you know how much you ate yesterday? (It really is wise
>> to know instead of guess via portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, or
>> feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>
> This physician has had 20 oz of a mix of tasty foods so far for the
> day.
>
> Do you know much you have eaten so far for the day?
>
> If not, why not?

Sure do, bowl of oatmeal with nothing in it but oats and
water. Also a taco bell bean burrito and diet cola so far.
Wish I could say it was all tasty!
Jimmy "eatin like a horse" Alpha

GreatSageItchy

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Feb 4, 2010, 3:05:26 PM2/4/10
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In article <7t5mm55c8t053a2jo...@4ax.com>, Andrew B.
Chung, MD/PhD <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Andrew, the Spamming ASSHOLE, arrogantly reposted:
[Arrogant BULLSHIT removed]

ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO
NOT FEED COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)

BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER
Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep, usenet #1 asshole,
certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet homosexual, erectile
dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation, chikan, pervert,
pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole, "Jesus is LORD"
aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath, totally arrogant spammer, usenet
cockroach, stalker, satanic demon, egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with
dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is LORD GOD KING BUFU".
Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the CPC."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dali Lama"

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 4, 2010, 6:27:27 PM2/4/10
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a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that Ph 2:11 allows us
>> to know that there is simply no justifiable excuse for anyone claiming
>> to be a Christian to not publicly confess "Jesus Christ is LORD" as
>> can be witnessed at http://WDJW.net except to confess that they are
>> not Christian (Romans 10:9) because no one can say "Jesus Christ is
>> LORD" except by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:3):
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/John1512

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af211f33ec497845?

>But what does Jesus say, wdjs:
>
>Matt.
>007:020 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
>007:021 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
>the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in
>heaven.

It remains a medical fact that any physically&cognitively intact
person can say "Lord, Lord" with their mouth, while it has been the
observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that "no one can say
'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3). Indeed, this
physician has been allowed to provide examples of
physically&cognitively intact individuals writing that they can
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using their mouth only to discover they
cannot:

http://WDJW.net

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>>>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>>>
>>>>> VAT is a normal part of all humans.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.

Here's an example of someone with no visceral adiposity (i.e. no VAT)
as evident by his hsCRP being undetectable ( < 0.1 mg/L ):

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

>>>> It remains an abnormal (harmful) part of many humans.
>>>
>>> "Many" does not save you from not having kept up on the research in this
>>> area. It is exactly as stated, happy to entertain any standard review
>>> of the subject you want to provide which speaks directly to the role of
>>> VAT in all people.
>>
>> "Recent studies suggest that inflammation of visceral adipose tissue,
>> ectopic fat deposition and adipose tissue dysfunction mediate insulin
>> resistance in human obesity independently of total body fat mass."
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> Curr Opin Lipidol. 2009 Nov 12. [Epub ahead of print]
>>
>> PubMed link:
>>
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19915462
>
> Smile ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

This physician's smile is to your chagrin.

> ... exactly what I asked you not do.

Incorrect.

Exactly what you were hoping this physician would not be able to do.

> You were to show us about the
> role of VAT in all people.

Indeed, that which is written in generalities as this cited article
has applicability to all people and not just diabetics as underscored
by the additional fact that this article is not from a medical journal
specializing in diabetes.

Thus, problems start with any amount of VAT because it remains
pathological.

The cause of VAT is not eating the right amount of daily food.

Accordingly, the only way to lose all the VAT is to eat the right
amount of daily food which is 32 ounces per the
http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach which is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

Again, in Jesus' most exalted name, this gentile Christian disciple
rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Folks do this by weighing their meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get their...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

May GOD continue to save the souls of those, who are this HeartDoc's
neighbors, by giving them a new heart and a new spirit
(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of water and
Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), so that they would be
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven , so that they would come to


trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"...no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy
Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

GreatSageItchy

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Feb 4, 2010, 7:16:24 PM2/4/10
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EGO-Christianity*, the exciting NEW "Christianity", with the "look and
feel" of REAL Spirituality, the illusion of righteousness and holiness,
especially created for assholes.

*aka "Jesus is LORD" Christianity.

Jesus, the teacher, the wise man, the prophet, even Jesus the savior,
is not good enought for EGO-CHRISTIANITY. Only Jesus IS GOD will
suffice. Jesus THE CREATOR, THE ALPHA, THE OMEGA!
In the sick weak mind of the EGO-Christian, Jesus is ALL-POWERFUL.

Everything is attracted to its opposite, so what kind of person would
want to transform Jesus from a carpenter, enlightened teacher into a
cross between God and Superman? By making Jesus more powerful, does
that not make the true believer also more powerful, more holy, more "in
the holy spirit". Does that not make his "holiness" more powerful.

When you enter that fantasy world OF EGO-Christianity, where "Jesus is
LORD", you're hanging out with the real whacko's of the Christian
world. The INSANE Andrew B. Chung, the Reichmarshall Hermann "Ike"
Ikemann, the once or twice accidently dropped on her head Donna Kupp,
and, of course Vera.
No power or glory is too great for Jesus, the Creator God, the Alpha
and Omega, in whacko EGO-Christianity, where the supreme egoists polish
the power and glory of Jesus to better reflect their shining
(ass)holiness.
EGO-Christianity, the exciting NEW "Christianity", with the "look and
feel" of REAL Spirituality, especially created for assholes.
�GSI 2010

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Hannele

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Okay you all, fess up, who left Chung in again? I told you to keep the
door closed.

--
Hannele, A.A #2211

There are at least as many gods as there are believers.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 6, 2010, 9:52:21 PM2/6/10
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prodigal Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >> This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of food yesterday per
> >> the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach and is very satisfied with

> >> knowing that the http://WDJW.net/PrinceOfPeace provided all the needed
> >> good food. Do you know how much you ate yesterday? (It really is wise
> >> to know instead of guess via portions, calories, carbs, fat grams, points, or

> >> feeling full) --> http://WDJW.net/BeWise
> >
> > This physician has had 20 oz of a mix of tasty foods so far for the
> > day.
> >
> > Do you know much you have eaten so far for the day?
> >
> > If not, why not?
>
> Sure do, bowl of oatmeal with nothing in it but oats and
> water. Also a taco bell bean burrito and diet cola so far.
> Wish I could say it was all tasty!

With all due love (Ro13:8) and http://WDJW.net/Respect to you, Jimmy,
are you still sinning?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Happy Oyster

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Feb 7, 2010, 11:30:58 AM2/7/10
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:52:21 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

"The 2PD-OMER Approach is really not a diet ..." Yes, it is not a diet, it is
insane bullshit.

.
--
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***************************************************************
Die Medienmafia � Die Regividerm-Verschw�rung
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5710

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 8, 2010, 3:33:13 AM2/8/10
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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Happy Oyster wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?

> >Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >
> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and


> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>

> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, H.O.:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Again, may GOD give you, H.O., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://www.interviewwithgod/forgiven by Him


so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

ver...@gefinden.com

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:00:13 AM2/8/10
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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:28:48 PM2/8/10
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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

Incorrect.

amount of daily food which is 32 ounces per the
http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach which is clearly
http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

Again, in Jesus' most exalted name, this gentile Christian disciple
rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Folks do this by weighing their meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get their...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

May GOD continue to save the souls of those, who are this physician's


neighbors, by giving them a new heart and a new spirit

(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of water and
Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven by Him so
that they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

ver...@gefinden.com

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Ken

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Feb 8, 2010, 7:08:46 PM2/8/10
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On Feb 8, 2:37 pm, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
> Truth:
>

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science.

If it looks like a Duck and swims like a Duck then it QUACKS like a
Duck

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 9, 2010, 1:03:32 AM2/9/10
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The verifiable fact remains the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach of
eating the http://WDJW.net/Right amount is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
which does not help people achieve http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

Incorrect.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

<o((-))><<

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

ver...@gefinden.com

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Feb 9, 2010, 8:02:06 AM2/9/10
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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both

liaM

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Feb 9, 2010, 3:52:51 PM2/9/10
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Le 2/9/2010 2:02 PM, ver...@gefinden.com a �crit :

> Truth:
>
> The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
> fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
> not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
> times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
> then science or valid medical practice
>
>
> All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
> agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
> agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
> corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
> saving can not deal with that truth.
>
> The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> scripture.

What verse ?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Feb 9, 2010, 9:37:59 PM2/9/10
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liaM wrote:
> a sockpuppet wrote in part:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > Again, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach
> > > is really http://WDJW.net/NotDiet ...
> > >

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3ee6a765a7c945cf?

<snip>

> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>
> What verse ?

None.

How the http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit inspired this physician back in
1997 to discover that 32 oz is the http://WDJW.net/Right amount of
daily food was through an IMAX documentary of a Mt. Everest climbing
expedition and not through any "particular verse in scripture."

Here's an archived sci.med.cardiology post from 6+ years ago that
serves well to verify that indeed this HeartDoc continues to write
truthfully:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b748d808c71b7f10?

Be hungrier, liaM, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind,
and body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

We do this by weighing our meals to get our ...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then ...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Marana tha

ver...@gefinden.com

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> The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> scripture.

"What verse ?"

Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.

Our friend says it is weight and points to the 16 + 16 as proof that 32
oz is the weight. But you will not find any authority at all, none,
which provides it as a measure of weight. It is always given as a
measure of volume as used to measure grain.

He once saw a post somewhere speaking of weight, which is the sole
origin of his idea. But multiple examples from multiple people can not
change a fixed obsessive thought pattern.

So as to erase the problem, he comes up with what he claims a new
directive from the divine claiming it is weight after all.

Ignore him.

ver...@gefinden.com

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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

a dying blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>

> "What verse ?" -- liaM


>
> Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3492b4ad018e7913?

"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael." (Gen
16:16)

Yours is quite an amazing failure that is being witnessed by all.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His zapping you
in answer to this physician rebuking you and your master, in the
LORD's most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ):

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, lovingly exhorted:
>> prodigal Mike McLean using a fake name wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, lovingly queried:
>>>
>>>> With all due love (Ro13:8) and respect (Ep4:15), are you,
>>>> Mike McLean, still sinning?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6a10c1c512cd61be?

>> When we give such an answer as yours, it does mean a sinner
>> has boasted about not sinning.
>>
>> "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD" (Romans 3:23)
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>> Our boasting about ourselves is sin according to what is written
>> in the Bible:
>>
>> "Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom or the strong man boast
>> of his strength or the rich man boast of his riches ..." (Jeremiah 9:23)
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Because such boasting causes us to be proud of heart and ..
>>
>> "The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will
>> not go unpunished." (Proverbs 16:5)
>>
>> Thus, it remains wise, Mike, to work to have
>> http://WDJW.net/Humility and http://WDJW.net/NoPride
>> by avoiding the sin of boasting.
>>
>>> Jesus is Lord.
>>
>> Yes, Jesus Christ is LORD ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 )
>>
>> This does mean that it would be LORD Jesus Christ
>> Who would punish us for being proud of heart as you
>> have been as evident by your heart (Jeremiah 17:9)
>> misguiding you to use such a fake name as Michael Christ
>> that has suggested to others like Vera that you believe
>> in your heart that you are at the same level as the
>> risen Christ Jesus:
>>
>> "See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse
>> may happen to you."-- LORD Jesus Christ (Jn5:14)
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>>> 'Jesus is Lord' is not just an empty chant you say and
>>> get people to kneel before you to say, Andrew.
>>
>> This physician has not written that "Jesus is LORD" were
>> "an empty chant you say and get people to kneel before you."
>>
>> Instead, he has cited what is written in the Bible that at the name
>> of Jesus, every knee should bow and every tongue confess that
>> "Jesus Christ is LORD" (Philippians 2:11) --> http://WDJW.net/Ph211
>>
>> When knees are bowed instead of bent, there is a stance of military
>> readiness instead of kneeling.
>>
>> Thus, your lies, which are sin, show that you remain sadly
>> disconnected from the Vine unable to bear good fruit as can
>> this gentile Christian disciple through the LORD, Who
>> strengthens him (Philippians 4:13 --> All glory to GOD!):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b950f56ace2abaaa?

>> "Apart from Me, you can do nothing." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Jn15:5)
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>> Bottom line concerning you, Mike:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b4c60eecdce69bbd?

>> Be hungrier, which truly is healthier for the heart, soul, mind, and body:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

>> We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER


>> Approach to get our...
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/Status
>>
>> and then...
>>

>> http://WDJW.net/Update
>>
>> so that there will be...
>>
>> http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
>>
>> There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

>> May GOD renew and strengthen your mind about knowing what is
>> http://WDJW.net/Right (Je9:24), Mike, so that you would be able to
>> http://WDJW.net/Guard your http://WDJW.net/WoundedHeart (Je17:9)
>> which is causing you to continue sinning.
>>
>> Amen.


>>
>> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>>
>> Andrew <><
>

> Dr. Chung do you sin?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002d04e8b5ed8bb5?

This physician is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke
6:21A).

The reason this is the right answer has been publicly discussed in an
earlier post in another sci.med.cardiology thread:

http://WDJW.net/RightAnswer

In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now
(Luke 6:21A), rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af211f33ec497845?

http://WDJW.net

In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now
(Luke 6:21A), rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:

>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

Incorrect.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

Again, in Jesus' most exalted name, this gentile Christian disciple,
who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke 6:21A),


rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other
heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Folks do this by weighing their meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get their...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

May GOD continue to save the souls of those, who are this physician's


neighbors, by giving them a new heart and a new spirit
(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of water and
Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven by Him so
that they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

liaM wrote:


> a sockpuppet wrote in part:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > Again, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach
> > > is really http://WDJW.net/NotDiet ...
> > >

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3ee6a765a7c945cf?

<snip>

> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>
> What verse ?

None.

ver...@gefinden.com

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> The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> scripture.

"What verse ?"

Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.

Our friend says it is weight and points to the 16 + 16 as proof that 32

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

a failed blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>

> "What verse ?" -- liaM


>
> Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3492b4ad018e7913?

"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael." (Gen
16:16)

Yours is quite an amazing failure that is being witnessed by all.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His zapping you
in answer to this physician rebuking you and your master, in the

LORD's most exalted name...

In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now

(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

a blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:

>
> Dr. Chung do you sin?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002d04e8b5ed8bb5?

This physician is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke
6:21A).

The reason this is the right answer has been publicly discussed in an
earlier post in another sci.med.cardiology thread:

http://WDJW.net/RightAnswer

In Jesus' most exalted name ( http://WDJW.net/Ph211 ), this gentile
Christian disciple, who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now

(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af211f33ec497845?

http://WDJW.net

(Luke 6:21A), again rebukes you and your master.

<o((-))><<

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/47c7bf2798ba71d1?

Incorrect.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

who is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry right now (Luke 6:21A), again

ken

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Feb 13, 2010, 10:56:26 AM2/13/10
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Andy Chung, a Board-certified QUACK

Happy Oyster

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:04:46 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael." (Gen
>16:16)
>

That is religious bullshit.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Once more, the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach is clearly http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

a failed blasphemer against the Holy Spirit wrote:
>
> > The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
> > scripture.
>
> "What verse ?" -- liaM
>
> Gen 16:16 which speaks of a measure of omer.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3492b4ad018e7913?

"Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore him Ishmael." (Gen
16:16)

Yours is quite an amazing failure that is being witnessed by all.

Ken

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Andy Chung is a board-certified QUACK


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Ken wrote in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9b45c529b13d6477?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Ken, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
3:3 and 3:5), so that your would have His http://WDJW.net/Salvation ,
so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

Ken

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Feb 18, 2010, 12:39:38 PM2/18/10
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Bottom line concerning chung:

Chung has been around for quite a few years now, and over time (last
5 years or so) his posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion and what seems a
paranoid belief in his 2lb diet.
Very sad to a see a once clever man go down the gurgler like this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of his disease - most likely
schizophrenia


MoSn

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:39:38 -0600, Ken wrote
(in article
<2d007a9f-f048-4a62...@g8g2000pri.googlegroups.com>):

And sad to see all those who post about Chung when it is obvious that Chung
is mentally ill. I guess they think that anyone who does not have the sense
to realize that about Chung will believe them.

I guess they feel they must be doing some public service as a way to give
meaning to their life. Very sad that it all those people having that as what
they consider to give their life some value.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Ken wrote in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9b45c529b13d6477?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Ken, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John

3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that you would come

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