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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >
> > can you, David, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
>
> Jesus said that future generations are just as important
> as we, the living.
This is not written in the Bible.
> Why should future generations have to live in more crowded conditions?
Tomorrow is not promised so that there may not even be future
generations.
Again, with all due respect, can you, David, publicly say "Jesus is
LORD" using your mouth?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>This is not written in the Bible.
In WHICH bible!?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >This is not written in the Bible.
>
> In WHICH bible!?
The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
into existence.
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c58ed0ce86741775?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Again, may GOD give you, H.O., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
MF sucks
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:6f176bb3-2093-4189...@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Happy Oyster wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >This is not written in the Bible.
>>
>> In WHICH bible!?
>
> The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
> into existence.
Oh, did he author all the different versions too? Idiot...
monkfish
> Happy Oyster wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >This is not written in the Bible.
>>
>> In WHICH bible!?
>
> The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
> into existence.
Written in English?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> >This is not written in the Bible.
> >>
> >> In WHICH bible!?
> >
> > The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
> > into existence.
>
> Written in English?
Asked and answered already in an earlier post in a different thread of
written discussion.
This indicates that your memory is failing you.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Happy Oyster wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >This is not written in the Bible.
>> >>
>> >> In WHICH bible!?
>> >
>> > The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
>> > into existence.
>>
>> Written in English?
>
> Asked and answered already in an earlier post in a different thread of
> written discussion.
> This indicates that your memory is failing you.
Answered to whose satisfaction?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Happy Oyster wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >This is not written in the Bible.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In WHICH bible!?
>> >> >
>> >> > The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
>> >> > into existence.
>> >>
>> >> Written in English?
>> >
>> > Asked and answered already in an earlier post in a different thread of
>> > written discussion.
>> > This indicates that your memory is failing you.
>>
>> Answered to whose satisfaction?
>
> Per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Stop lying to yourself.
And do try to answer the question to our satisfaction.
What is the language used by the Holy spirit in you?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> > Happy Oyster wrote:
>>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >This is not written in the Bible.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> In WHICH bible!?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
>>> >> > into existence.
>>> >>
>>> >> Written in English?
>>> >
>>> > Asked and answered already in an earlier post in a different thread of
>>> > written discussion.
>>> > This indicates that your memory is failing you.
>>>
>>> Answered to whose satisfaction?
>>
>> Per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
>
>Stop lying to yourself.
It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing
truthfully.
Sadly, this physician can not truthfully write the same concerning
you.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> monkfish wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> > monkfish wrote:
>>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> >> > Happy Oyster wrote:
>>>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >This is not written in the Bible.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> In WHICH bible!?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The Bible that GOD, Who is the Author of all reality, has breathed
>>>> >> > into existence.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Written in English?
>>>> >
>>>> > Asked and answered already in an earlier post in a different thread
>>>> > of written discussion.
>>>> > This indicates that your memory is failing you.
>>>>
>>>> Answered to whose satisfaction?
>>>
>>> Per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
>>
>>Stop lying to yourself.
>
> It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing
> truthfully.
>
> Sadly, this physician can not truthfully write the same concerning
> you.
Can you even try to be humble?
Would Jesus want you to be humble?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your question indicates that you have either not read or not
understood Deuteronomy 8:3.
monkfish
Is this reply even remotely humble?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GOD humbles people (Deuteronomy 8:3) and not their replies.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
monkfish
You just can't be humble, can you?
Do you think Christians are supposed to be humble?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This physician remains humbled by GOD infinitely hungrier than ever.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Amen.
Love in the truth,
> Do you think Christians are supposed to be humble?
>
> --
> monkfish
monkfish
So clueless.
Everyone cannot help but be humble to God.
Christians are supposed to be humble to others.
Can you at least publicly say "Lord help me
to become humble to others"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Not for the discerning.
> Everyone cannot help but be humble to God.
Folks like you are running away from GOD in order to not be humbled by
Him.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
monkfish
Incredible.
Are you saying that
you don't have to be humble to God?
Is that why you are so full of pride?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Not for the discerning.
> Are you saying that
> you don't have to be humble to God?
Your question indicates you are clueless about the fact that the most
appropriate use of the word humble is as a verb and not as an
adjective.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
monkfish
Probably baseless.
Do you really think God needs to humble us?
Do you even know how to humble yourself to others?
Can you at least say publicly "Lord help me
to learn to humble myself to others"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You are simply clueless.
>Do you really think God needs to humble us?
GOD has no needs.
We are automatically humbled before GOD as soon as He smiles at us.
Those who don't want to be humbled by GOD have turned tail and are
running away from the truth as you are doing.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
monkfish
Is this the best humility you can muster?
You just can't be humble, can you?
--
monkfish
MF Rules
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:a4qa95duqkq5v2dam...@4ax.com...
Oh, snap, Chung. Not a very Christian remark. You're making Jesus angrier
and angrier.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your question indicates you remain clueless about being humbled by
GOD.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
monkfish
You just don't know how to be humble, do you?
Do you at least know you should be?
Ephesians 4:1-3 (New International Version)
[quote]
1As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the
calling you have received. 2Be completely humble and gentle; be patient,
bearing with one another in love. 3Make every effort to keep the unity of
the Spirit through the bond of peace.
[/quote]
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Actually, GOD has allowed this physician to know that the key to being
humbled by GOD is being perfect.
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:48)
Amen.
"... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
19:26)
Amen.
It is when GOD is with us as we are being perfect that we become
infinitely hungrier (healthier) thereby knowing that He is humbling us
in accord with what is written in the Bible at Deuteronomy 8:3.
monkfish
Do you at least make sense to yourself?
Philippians 2:2-4 (New International Version)
[quote]
2then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being
one in spirit and purpose. 3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain
conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of
you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests
of others.
[/quote]
You really should
"in humility consider others better than yourselves."
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Amen.
> Do you at least make sense to yourself?
Your question indicates you are clueless about LORD Jesus Christ.
monkfish
Too proud to admit
that you don't know what you are doing?
Ever wondered why you are so ineffective and incompetent?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your question indicates that you are clueless about this physician.
MF Rules
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> haste
Why is it okay for *you* to lie but not Monkfish?
monkfish
No humility at all?
Ever heard of the suffering servant?
Are you too proud to suffer humility?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It is believable that you have no humility.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
monkfish
Do you at least want to be humble to other people?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Those of us who are hungry remain humbled by GOD (Deuteronomy 8:3) in
the eyes of the discerning.
monkfish
Is that why you just cannot say
"I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would say that as "This physician's stomach singing and laughing out
loud right now is Jesus allowing him to know that GOD raised Him from
the dead and that He is physically near and smiling at this physician
though He remains invisible."
Truth is reality:
monkfish
Isn't it rather suspicious why you cannot publicly say
"I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Did not write that this physician cannot say what you want but rather
that this physician would say what the Holy Spirit guides which is
that "This physician's stomach singing and laughing out loud right now
is Jesus allowing him to know that GOD raised Him from the dead and
that He is physically near and smiling at this physician though He
remains invisible."
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
In the interim, may GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new
spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of
water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>> Isn't it rather suspicious why you cannot publicly say
>> "I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ"?
>
>Did not write that this physician cannot
"this physician"? I Andrew B. Chung to damned stupid to write "I"? Aside of
abusing self-acclamation in his posting-titles he also moves himself up by
talking of him self as "this physician".
>say what you want but rather
>that this physician would say what the Holy Spirit guides which is
>that "This physician's stomach singing and laughing out loud right now
>is Jesus allowing him to know that GOD raised Him from the dead and
>that He is physically near and smiling at this physician though He
>remains invisible."
>
>Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
>haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
>reality:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
>
>There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
Andrew B. Chung, do cease and desist harassing people with your brutal warfare
to subdue them.
The official Andrew B. Chung background facts
28.8.2009
Day for day "Andrew B. Chung" spits masses of harassing posts into the Net.
Who is Andrew B. Chung?
A) in short
B) typical rhetoric warfare by Andrew B. Chung
Examples
C) Details
a) Leeerooy Jenkins about Andrew B. Chung
b) Andrew B. Chung in public praises mass murder
c) Andrew B. Chung, the impostor
D) The faked proves of Andrew B. Chung
E) Andrew B. Chung and a medical question
A) in short
===========
Andrew B. Chung makes false medical claims.
Andrew B. Chung is seeding hatred and he aggressively attacks other posters.
Andrew B. Chung slimyly describes himself as
<quote>
Being truly nice (WDJW) and praying for xyz's perishing soul .
</quote>
Actually Andrew B. Chung praises for mass murder.
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 08/10/09
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <fa267b2a-e0e9-4dae...@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
Retiring people from existence in this world and taking them up to
heaven is not murder :-)
</quote>
B) typical rhetoric warfare by Andrew B. Chung
==============================================
1.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:15 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
with the subject line
"Being joyfully nice (WDJW) and praying for H.O.'s perishing soul"
Already this subject line is a way of massive stalking. This is typical for
religiots, who CLAIM to be soooo polite but in reality are filled with hatred up
to the hairs.
2.
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:50:17 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>May GOD give you, H.O., a new heart
That is a way of rhetorical warfare of the meanest sort: to grab a "god" and to
claim to have it at one's side, and then - as a higher person BECAUSE OF having
that god at one's side - give orders and reign over other people.
3.
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:02:34 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:
Hundreds of millions of people died a cruel death - all caused by a "loving"
god?
AND SO WHAT!?: People are intimidated to get on their knees because of fear of
that god.
This way people are mentally abused.
4.
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:21:30 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>Then please allow me to hear you say "Jesus is LORD" via voicemail at
>the telephone number listed at the above JiL4ever.net web site.
In this strange way this guy sets himself over other people.
He abuses a god to make himself superior of other people.
C) Details:
===========
a) Leeerooy Jenkins about Andrew B. Chung
b) Andrew B. Chung in public praises mass murder
a) Leeerooy Jenkins about Andrew B. Chung
-----------------------------------------
"Leeerooy Jenkins" <j...@j.com> gave a description of Andrew B. Chung in
Message-ID: <Nu6dnb94loVIlujX...@giganews.com>
<quote>
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
</quote>
b) Andrew B. Chung in public praises mass murder
------------------------------------------------
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Being truly nice (WDJW) and praying for Ken's perishing soul ...
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <d4c2cd8c-ec08-498d...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
Happy Oyster wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> > Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Andrew in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >May GOD give you, H.O., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
> >> >> >> >> >> >and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
> >> >> >> >> >> >3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> To harrass other people by using religion as a means of rheoric warfare is a
> >> >> >> >> >> crime.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Asking GOD to give you eternal life (John 3:16) is neither harrassment
> >> >> >> >> >nor warfare.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So if a truck rolls over Andrew B. Chung, that is a good deed and planned by
> >> >> >> >> god?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That is bullshit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Incorrect.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a written prayer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Like other murderous stuff in the bible?
> >> >
> >> > What is written in the Bible is that GOD commands us to not murder:
> >> >
> >> > "You shall not murder." -- GOD (Exodus 20:13)
> >
> >Amen.
> >
> >> If it is done for god, it is declared as "not murder".
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > "But if the accused ever goes outside the limits of the city of refuge
> > to which he has fled and the avenger of blood finds him outside the
> > city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty
> > of murder." (Numbers 35:26-27)
Amen.
The ultimate City of Refuge will be the new Jerusalem.
> Another apology for mass murder.
Incorrect.
It is absolute justification for capital punishment, which is not
murder.
Those who deny Jesus being the only begotten Son of GOD and deny that
GOD raised from the dead are culpable as accessories to the murder of
GOD's Son on the cross at Mt. Calvary.
GOD the Father, as the Avenger of of His Son's blood, may kill all of
the accused without Himself being guilty of murder.
[...]
</quote>
So this is the "excuse" for ANY mass murder. The murderers only have to claim
that they kill in god's order.
At the very same time these hatred seeding monsters describe themselves as
<quote>
Being truly nice (WDJW) and praying for xyz's perishing soul .
</quote>
And that
<quote>
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
</quote>
That is total insanity on two legs.
One more example:
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 08/23/09
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <ec63c193-ac3f-41a8...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
Injection-Info: s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.166.29.78;
posting-account=AHd-hQoAAAANUwbIoeJwuFe_Kvj2Pve1
Happy Oyster wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> >Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
> >allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
>
> Yes, all, including Hitler and his murderers.
... and including you :-)
> God is the greatest mass murderer of all, because he plans all these murders.
Giving eternal life (John 3:16) is not murder.
**********************************************
</quote>
c) Andrew B. Chung, the impostor
--------------------------------
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 08/27/09
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:17:07 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <4f7ceba3-5ee4-462f...@d38g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
Injection-Info: d38g2000yqi.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.166.29.78;
posting-account=yrrEkQoAAADK0mjGhUwXhlCgz4P6kDIf
Happy Oyster wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >It is when we are in perfect peace that we become healthier (hungrier)
> >than ever.
> >
> >"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
> >LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
> >
> >Amen.
> >
> >A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
>
> Bullshit.
Not for the discerning.
> Where ist the spirit?
The Holy Spirit is everywhere He wants to be :-)
********************************************
> Why does not not talk for itself?
GOD does what He wants :-)
**********************
[...]
</quote>
>The Holy Spirit is everywhere He wants to be :-)
So any impostor, like Andrew B. Chung, can claim that he is authorized by the
holy ghost.
>> Why does not not talk for itself?
>
>GOD does what He wants :-)
So any impostor, like Andrew B. Chung, can claim that he is sent by god.
What a simple world: only say that you are sent by the holy ghost (whatever that
invented figure is meant to be), and immediately you can make ANY claims because
god automatically (as "GOD does what He wants") is supporting the impostor. And
you can dominate others as you like.
All Andrew B. Chung has to say is something like this:
1.
====
>A discerning heart is a spiritual gift from GOD.
2.
====
>> You are a sad pathetic hypocrite who lacks knowledge.
>
>Lie.
>
>This gentile disciple of LORD Jesus Christ would have neither an MD
>much less a PhD if what you wrote were true.
3.
====
>> > It is when we are in perfect peace that we become healthier (hungrier)
>> > than ever.
>>
>> How many times are you going to repeat this?
>
>It remains the personal choice of this physician to continue to
>receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and
>written.
4.
====
>> I notice that you did not put yourself into the class of "the
>> discerning" ...
>
>There was no need to do that when the Holy Spirit testifies on this
>physician's behalf by helping him publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as has
>been oft-seen on-line:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc
>
>Sadly, the same cannot be truthfully written about you.
5.
====
>> > A Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.:
>>
>> You are a fake and a fraud ...
>
>Lie.
>
>Would not have an active medical license if what you wrote were true.
>
>Again, a Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter
>B.:
6.
====
>> > It is not by chance but by GOD that your name has folks thinking about
>> > a **second** Peter (Proverbs 16:33).
>>
>> WOW, how badly can you blow things?
>
>Incorrect.
>
>GOD remains the frame of reference for knowing what is good:
So what do we have? We have a person, who calls himself Andrew. B. Chung, who
- day for day harasses others
- day for day tries to dominate others by means of rhetoric warfare
- day for day abuses the name of god
- day for day makes insane medical claims
- day for day makes false references to a "bible", which he cannot name
- day for day advertises for a book he sells
- day for day claims to be authorized ("guided") by a holy ghost
to commit his deeds
Day for day.
D) The faked proves of Andrew B. Chung
======================================
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:22:18 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Peter B. wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>> > Peter B. wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Peter B. wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It is during the peace and quiet of the night that we become
>> >> >> > healthier (hungrier) than ever.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "First, you must understand this: No prophecy in Scripture is a
>> >> >> matter of one's own interpretation."
>> >> >
>> >> > Non sequitur.
>> >>
>> >> Passing judgement out of ignorance #1
>> >
>> > Not for the discerning.
>>
>> I notice that you did not put yourself into the class of "the
>> discerning" ...
>
>There was no need to do that when the Holy Spirit testifies on this
>physician's behalf by helping him publicly say "Jesus is LORD" as has
>been oft-seen on-line:
The holy ghost never did testify anything.
Andrew B. Chung makes idiotic claims and "proves" them with more idiotic claims.
What will he claim next? That he is emperor of China?
Ee) Andrew B. Chung and a medical question
=========================================
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:59:46 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:
>Richard wrote:
>
>>Would living at an elevation of 5,500 ft possibly cause a worsening of
>>aortic stenosis in a developing child?
>>
>>The aortic stenosis is caused by a bicuspid valve. Cardiologist does
>>not believe that living at this elevation would be a problem.
>>however...
>
>Would agree with your son's pediatric cardiologist.
>
>>I thought high altitude causes the heart to pump harder to get more
>>oxygen, so there must be an extra workload on the heart and lungs?
>
>Not after adapting.
>
>>In that regard (and I'm not a doctor), would there be slightly more
>>pressure on the aortic root, that might cause a worsening of aortic
>>stenosis at such a young age - in a developing child, over time?
>
>Would not expect it.
>
>With all due respect, can you, Richard, publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
**********************************************************************
>using your mouth?
**********************************************************************
>Love in the truth,
>
>Andrew <><
What a damned way of harassing a person who is asking for medical help.
Andrew B. Chung claims do be a medical doctor.
What does he do in his office?
Force his patients the same, or even worse?
I can well imagine that some of his patients would not use their mouth, but
their hands to show their disgust.
--
The real big birthday party:
http://stuttmann.de/karikaturen/kari_20090826_Sause.gif
Oh, well, it is only peanuts, you know...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f1e59795b06a63ca?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Again, may GOD give you, H.O., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
monkfish
--
monkfish
Andy "not Charlie" Chung
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> > loud right now is Jesus allowing him to know that GOD raised Him from
>> > the dead and that He is physically near and smiling at this physician
>> > though He remains invisible."
>>
>> Isn't it rather suspicious why you cannot publicly say
>> "I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ"?
>
> Did not write that this physician cannot say what you want but rather
> that this physician would say what the Holy Spirit guides which is
> that "This physician's stomach singing and laughing out loud right now
> is Jesus allowing him to know that GOD raised Him from the dead and
> that He is physically near and smiling at this physician though He
> remains invisible."
Ignorance is bliss, not Charlie, ignorance is bliss.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your question raises concern about your lack of reading comprehension.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
Happy Oyster
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>Your question raises concern about your lack of reading comprehension.
That is harassing crap. Covered by a slimy "friendly" disguise, but in reality
it is rhetoric warfare.
This I found today. It dates back to 2004, when Andrew B. Chung already was
known for his criminal behavior in the Net.
<quote>
Re: George Is that a REAL email address? Can't seem to send this to you....
From: Mack� (DuhNoSpam_at_nono.com)
Date: 11/12/04
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:28:32 -0500
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:40:24 GMT, "rmg"
<roxmarie_no...@pacbell.net> Screamed something into the void
that sounded like:
>
>I find the below message offensive.
>
>Usenet is here so people can quickly reference topics and communities of
>interest. By cross posting, you are undermining a system that is working for
>a lot of well-meaning people. You are rude and your ignorant sense of
>entitlement is offensive.
>
>
here is some info publicly available about chung the psychol troll:
Chung, A B
6041 Colt Ridge Trl SE
Mableton, GA 30126-5715
(404) 699-2780
a...@heartmdphd.com
cardio...@heartmdphd.com
Domain Name: HEARTMDPHD.COM
���Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
���Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
���Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
���Name Server: NS3.SOFTCOMCA.COM
���Name Server: NS4.SOFTCOMCA.COM
���Status: ACTIVE
���Updated Date: 18-nov-2003
���Creation Date: 01-jan-2001
���Expiration Date: 01-jan-2011
go to map quest or expedia maps and enter the above address to visit
chung at his office.
�
������������������---------------------------------
�����������������| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
�����������������| Version 1.0, January, 2004 |
������������������---------------------------------
�
�Introduction
�------------
�New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled
�and troubled by the controversy surrounding the poster who posts as Dr.
�Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to know what the
�controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts
�to provide an answer.
�
�The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions and
�answers. For those who don�t wish to read the whole FAQ, the following
�summary is provided.
�
�Summary
�-------
�Dr. Chung represents himself to be a licensed physician specializing in
�cardiology. In this capacity he responds to medical questions on
�s.m.c.. If that were all he did, there would probably be no
�controversy.
�
�The controversy arises from Dr. Chung�s other behaviors on s.m.c., in
�particular:
�
�o He uses s.m.c. to not only proselytize his particular interpretation
���of Christianity, but also to disparage and attack anyone with a
���different interpretation or different religion.
�
�o He uses s.m.c. to promote his unscientific Two Pound Diet (2PD) and,
���in fact, cross posts this information to other groups in order to
���gain more exposure.
�
�o When challenged on the above issues, or one of his medical opinions,
���he attacks his challengers as "obsessive anti-Christians",
���"libelers", "homosexuals", "people who can�t understand English",
���etc.
�
�o When challenged he performs Internet searches on his challengers in
���order to "get the dirt" on them and smear their reputations.
�
�o When challenged, he answers with evasions, non sequiturs,
���dissembling, rhetorical questions, quotes from the bible, religious
���mantras, thinly veiled death threats, ad hominem arguments, and other
���such disreputable, unethical, and unprofessional tactics.
�
�o He is insufferably full of himself, claiming to have "the gift of
���Truth Discernment" and to be "Humble" while behaving anything but
���humbly.
�
�o He uses a foil who posts under variations of the name "Mu" to avoid
���killfiles. Mu�s job is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets
���a reaction, to cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung
���can disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
���Whereas Dr. Chung has to be somewhat careful what he says and so
���attacks primarily through insinuation and innuendo, Mu�s tactics
���are blunt and direct like those of a playground bully.
�
�The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung�s egregious behavior
�on s.m.c.. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified
�in the Google archives.
�
�The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free
�medical advice on s.m.c., who cares what else he does?
�
�Many people provide free medical advice on the internet. How does one
�know whether it is good advice or bad advice? If the person giving the
�advice is, or represents himself to be, a doctor shouldn�t that be
�enough? Unfortunately, no.
�
�Medical education alone is not enough to guarantee good advice.
�Knowledge must be tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity,
�ethics, and professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by
�their behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence should
�be given to their medical advice?
�
�People arrive in this group looking for help. For their own
�protection, they deserve to know the quality of the person purporting
�to dispense that help and not be lulled into a false sense of security
�simply because someone displays an MD after their name. It is the
�intention of this FAQ to provide people with enough information to
�allow them to make an informed decision.
�
�List of Questions Answered
�--------------------------
��1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
��2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
��3. Aren�t Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
��4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What�s the Problem With That?
��5. But it�s Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
��6. But I�m a Christian Too!
��7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
��8. But Isn�t It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
�����Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
��9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
�����Usenet?
�10. Won�t Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
�11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
�����Challenge Dr. Chung?
�12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
�13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
�14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
�15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
�16. Who is Mu?
�17. What is Mu�s Role?
�
�
��1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
�--------------------------------------
�The poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD claims to be a
�licensed physician, practicing internal medicine in Atlanta, Georgia,
�USA and specializing in cardiology. His signature contains a link to a
�website which is consistent with his posts.
�
�It should be noted that anyone can claim to be anyone on Usenet and so
�caution is always advised. Indeed there are those who claim that the
�poster in question is not Dr. Andrew B. Chung, or is not the Dr. Andrew
�B. Chung listed in the Atlanta telephone directory, and/or has lost his
�license and/or hospital privileges for misconduct. This FAQ does not
�attempt to address those claims one way or the other. The reader with
�an interest in these matters can easily find the relevant discussions
�archived in Google Groups.
�
�This FAQ deals with the poster who posts as Dr. Chung and restricts
�itself to issues demonstrated by those posts. No position is taken on
�his "true" identity.
�
��2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
�----------------------------------
�The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for
�communication between health care providers, scientists and other
�individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
�communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange
�information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
�
�The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are
�health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients
�with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."
�
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)
�
�
��3. Aren�t Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
�--------------------------------------------------------
�What do you think?
�
��4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What�s the Problem With That?
�--------------------------------------------------------------
�There is no problem with that. Most of the people who participate in
�s.m.c. are probably religious. However no one but Dr. Chung feels
�compelled to characterize themselves as the "Humble Servant of God" in
�their signatures, continually thank God for the opportunity to
�"witness", question others about their religious beliefs, claim the
�"Gift of Truth Discernment", etc.
�
�When one person insists on introducing his personal religious
�interpretations into the discussions, it naturally generates responses
�from others who feel just as strongly that their viewpoints are
�correct. The resulting debate easily swirls out of control, especially
�given Dr. Chung�s intolerant and dismissive attitude towards beliefs
�which differ from his. The situation is further exacerbated by Mu�s
�rabble raising from the sidelines.
�
�There are over 160 Usenet groups dedicated to the discussion of
�religion. Dr. Chung should take his beliefs to one of these and stick
�to cardiology in s.m.c. It is a simple matter of respect for others.
�
��5. But it�s Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
�-------------------------------------------------------
�No, it is not. He has even gone so far as to "investigate" someone
�asking for advice about stents and accuse her of being anti-Christian.
�
��6. But I�m a Christian Too!
�----------------------------
�Lots of people are Christians. There is a time and a place for
�everything. s.m.c. isn�t the place to "witness" or recruit. In
�addition, lots of other people are Jews, Moslems, Buddhists,
�Taoists, Hindus, etc. Would s.m.c. be better or worse if they
�all emulated Dr. Chung in their proselytizing and recruiting?
�
�Furthermore, if you are a Christian, you should be appalled by Dr.
�Chung�s pharisaical, cynical, and manipulative use of Christianity. He
�is truly a "whitened sepulcher", loudly proclaiming his adherence to
�Christian values while overtly lying, carrying on smear campaigns
�against others, making false accusations, dissembling, and marketing
�his web site under the guise of altruism. He is "bearing false
�witness" and true Christians should be concerned.
�
�As an example, when John Ritter recently died unexpectedly, Dr. Chung
�rushed to use this unfortunate event to market his web site. He showed
�a total lack of Christian compassion for Mr. Ritter and his family,
�even when challenged to do so.
�
�As another example, he recently choreographed a smear campaign against
�a poster who had criticized him. Dr. Chung found a homosexual author
�with the same first name and then insinuated that the poster and anyone
�who agreed with him were engaged in a homosexual relationship. Ask
�yourself if this the brand of Christianity you identify with.
�
��7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
�--------------------------------------------------
�Why should one individual be given carte blanche to violate the rights
�of everyone else? Usenet is a community. It is up to the community to
�sanction its members. There is nothing "ad hominem" about challenging
�inappropriate and antisocial behavior.
�
��8. But Isn�t It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
�����Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
�----------------------------------------------------------
�First, it is only of value if it is good advice. Medical education
�alone is not enough to guarantee good advice. Knowledge must be
�tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity, ethics, and
�professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by their
�behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence should be
�given to their medical advice?
�
�Secondly, despite his protestations to the contrary, Dr. Chung is not
�simply motivated by altruism. Every post of Dr. Chung's contains a
�link to a website with the following quote:
�
���"If you are looking for a cardiologist and reside in Georgia,
����please consider me your best option for a personal heart advocate.
����Check out my credentials and my background. Additional information
����is available in the protected sections of this web site. Email me at
����cardio...@heartmdphd.com to me of your interest and I may send
����you a temporary username and password to allow a preview. The more
����information you email, the more likely my decision to send you a
����temporary username and password. If you like what you see and learn
����from this website and wish to confer with me about your heart, you
����or your doctor should email me privately or call my voicemail at
����404-699-2780 to schedule an appointment to see me at my *real*
����office."
���������������(http://www.heartmdphd.com/office.asp)
����������������a...@hertmdphd.com
����������������cardio...@heartmdphd.com
�
�Thirdly, Dr. Chung has repeatedly stated that one of his key
�motivations for participating is s.m.c. is to "witness" and win
�converts to his religious beliefs.
�
��9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
�����Usenet?
�------------------------------------------------------------------
�An interesting question.
�
�10. Won�t Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
�--------------------------------------------------
�Perhaps. But not challenging him will drive others away.
�
�s.m.c. is historically a "low traffic" group. Therefore, when Dr. Chung
�misbehaves, he generates an apparently large response. This is
�compounded by Dr. Chung�s need to "get in the last word" and Mu�s
�provocations. In spite of this, if someone has a question it will
�usually be answered.
�
�Dr. Chung is not the only participant who offers advice in s.m.c. He
�is not even the only doctor who participates in s.m.c. However, the
�controversy he generates and sustains often makes it appear that he is
�the "only game in town".
�
�Finally, Dr. Chung himself drives others away including other
�physicians who leave in disgust after being verbally assaulted by him,
�and other knowledgeable posters who point out where Dr. Chung�s medical
�opinion might be in error or at least not the only one generally held.
�Anyone disagreeing with Dr. Chung on any subject can expect a series of
�increasingly vitriolic attacks, including threats of libel suits.
�
�11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
�����Challenge Dr. Chung?
�--------------------------------------------------------------
�An interesting perspective: blame the victim. No other poster
�(with the exception of Mu, of course) introduces religion or
�the Two Pound Diet. How can it be acceptable for Dr. Chung
�to introduce these topics, but not acceptable for others to
�respond?
�
�In any thread, someone must, of necessity "get the last word".
�Dr. Chung has amply demonstrated that he will not be outdone
�in this respect.
�
�12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
�----------------------------------------------
�You are probably referring to an "Ad Hominem" _argument_, which
�attempts to disprove an adversary's fact by personal attack on
�the adversary. An example would be "You are opposed to the
�Two Pound Diet because you are anti-Christian".
�When someone misbehaves, for example lies or distorts what
�someone else is saying, it is not an "ad hominem attack" to
�call them on it. It is a legitimate social sanction.
�
�There are also, unfortunately too often, simple personal
�attacks and insults on both sides. While we can all wish
�it weren't so, it is simply human nature when an argument
�becomes heated or the other person is obviously not arguing
�in good faith. If you are distressed by this, see the next
�question.
�
�13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
�--------------------------------
�There is no reason why you have to see it. Just as you can
�change the TV channel if you don't like a show, you can killfile
�a poster or thread you don't want to see. See the manual
�that came with your Usenet reader for directions on how to do it.
�
�Before you do this, however, you may wish to consider if a truer
�picture of the world is not gained by seeing all that goes on -
�both the good and the bad.
�
�14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
�-------------------------------
�The Two pound Diet is a diet which Dr. Chung "invented". It�s only
�rule is to restrict yourself to two pounds of food per day. That�s it.
�Doesn�t matter if you are a 16 year old girl or an 80 year old man; a
�5� 2" woman or a 7� man; a weight lifter or a mattress tester. Two
�pounds. That�s it. No more, less if you want. One size fits all.
�
�Oh, and the food? Whatever you want: two pounds of lettuce, two pounds
�of ice cream, two pounds of celery, two pounds of bacon, two pounds of
�chocolate, two pounds of peanuts... doesn�t matter. Mix and match.
�Just keep it under two pounds.
�
�Dr. Chung�s claim is that this magical weight of food, this universal
�gustatory constant will cause everyone to arrive at and maintain their
�ideal weight. His scientific basis for this claim: none. The proof he
�offers: none. Studies supporting this claim: none. Nutritional
�explanation: none. Metabolic explanation: none.
�
�And this from a doctor who expects people to take him seriously on
�other issues.
�
�15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
�---------------------------------------------------
�Dr. Chung says it is because being overweight is a risk factor for
�heart problems and therefore discussion of the Two Pound Diet is On
�Topic. However criticism of the Two Pound Diet is Off Topic as is
�discussion of any other diet.
�
�As with religion, Dr. Chung takes every opportunity to introduce the
�Two Pound Diet (2PD) into any other thread. In addition Mu trolls
�other newsgroups, particularly the diet groups looking for
�opportunities to introduce the 2PD in these groups and then cross post
�the resulting discussion back to s.m.c so that Dr. Chung can
�disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
�
�Since Dr. Chung and Mu have been laughed off of these other groups and
�have been asked repeatedly not to bring up the 2PD in them,
�participants of these groups are understandably angered when it happens
�yet again� and, because of Mu�s cross-posting, all their anger spills
�back into s.m.c.
�
�Another reason for ongoing 2PD discussions is Dr. Chung�s habit of
�researching anyone who criticizes the 2PD and then cross-posting his
�responses back to other groups which the critic has been found to
�frequent. He disingenuously claims that he does this as a
�"convenience" to the critic, but his true reasons are transparent.
�Once again, the cross-post generates a firestorm in s.m.c.
�
�The bottom line is that if the Two Pound Diet is "On Topic" for
�anyone, it is "On Topic" for everyone... including it's critics.
�If it is "Off Topic", it should not be continually re-introduced
�by Dr. Chung.
�
�16. Who is Mu?
�--------------
�Mu is a longtime Usenet Troll who has even merited his own FAQ. He
�postures as some kind of personal physical trainer, but who really
�knows? He has allied himself with Dr. Chung and serves as the "Bad Cop"
�in the Chung - Mu "Good Cop - Bad Cop" routine. He specializes in the
�short, nasty one-liner and, because unlike Dr. Chung, he has no
�reputation to protect, he can afford to be much more direct and
�offensive.
�
�Mu parrots an even meaner-spirited version of Dr. Chung�s
�"Christianity" and does not hesitate to employ anti-Semitism and
�homophobia in his attacks.
�
�Naturally, most people would have long ago killfiled Mu, so he changes
�his handle on an almost daily basis.
�
�17. What is Mu�s Role?
�----------------------
�Mu�s role is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets a reaction, to
�cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung can disingenuously
�claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
�
�Mu is also responsible for pitching softballs to Dr. Chung so he can
�hit them out of the park, and for re-introducing religion and the Two
�Pound Diet should the discussion flag.
�
�Finally, Mu�s role is to tirelessly wear down unsuspecting Dr. Chung
�critics, deflecting the blows that would otherwise be aimed at Dr.
�Chung. He is Dr. Chung�s Internet equivalent of the "rope-a-dope".
�Insults roll off him like water off a duck as do attempts to reason
�with him or even have a civil discussion.
�
�Most people have learned to ignore him and his comment is usually the
�last one in any thread sub-tree where it appears.
�
�Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement.
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monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave your
callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at the bottom
of the following web site:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Amen.
Love in the truth,
>
> --
> monkfish
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>May GOD give you, Monkfish,
Ah, more harassing with insane crap.
--
Hamer's willige Helfer
monkfish
Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
Can you publicly write here
"I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >
> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave your
> > callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at the bottom
> > of the following web site:
> >
> > http://WDJW.net
>
> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate that you lack the courage needed to
follow through with your questions.
GOD is the Source of all courage.
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>GOD is the Source of all courage.
So god gave courage to those who beat up Andrew Ben-Hua Chung.
God must have had a very good reason to do so.
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fc90ad53e7fc052?
>> >
>> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave your
>> > callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at the bottom
>> > of the following web site:
>> >
>> > http://WDJW.net
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> you to unwittingly demonstrate that you lack the courage needed to
> follow through with your questions.
>
> GOD is the Source of all courage.
Is that why you cowardly edit out the main point?
Isn't it rather suspicious why you cannot publicly write
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > monkfish wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fc90ad53e7fc052?
> >> >
> >> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave your
> >> > callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at the bottom
> >> > of the following web site:
> >> >
> >> > http://WDJW.net
> >>
> >> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> > you to unwittingly demonstrate that you lack the courage needed to
> > follow through with your questions.
> >
> > GOD is the Source of all courage.
>
> Is that why you cowardly edit out the main point?
Crossing only the bridges reached is not cowardice.
Otoh, not following through to receive an answer to ones question is
cowardice.
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fc90ad53e7fc052?
>> >> >
>> >> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave your
>> >> > callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at the bottom
>> >> > of the following web site:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://WDJW.net
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
>> >
>> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
>> > you to unwittingly demonstrate that you lack the courage needed to
>> > follow through with your questions.
>> >
>> > GOD is the Source of all courage.
>>
>> Is that why you cowardly edit out the main point?
>
> Crossing only the bridges reached is not cowardice.
> Otoh, not following through to receive an answer to ones question is
> cowardice.
Do you believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This physician believes in his heart that GOD raised His Son, Jesus
Christ, from the dead (Romans 10:9).
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5fc90ad53e7fc052?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Would be glad call you and say that for you :-) Simply leave
>> >> >> > your callback number on the voice mail at the number listed at
>> >> >> > the bottom of the following web site:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://WDJW.net
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry, I forgot about your deficiency in common sense.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His
>> >> > compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate that you lack the courage
>> >> > needed to follow through with your questions.
>> >> >
>> >> > GOD is the Source of all courage.
>> >>
>> >> Is that why you cowardly edit out the main point?
>> >
>> > Crossing only the bridges reached is not cowardice.
>> > Otoh, not following through to receive an answer to ones question is
>> > cowardice.
>>
>> Do you believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ?
>
> This physician believes in his heart that GOD raised His Son, Jesus
> Christ, from the dead (Romans 10:9).
Wonderful.
Does that make sense medically?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GOD is wonderful :-)
> Does that make sense medically?
It makes sense Scripturally.
"... with GOD all things are possible." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
19:26)
Amen.
monkfish
Wonderful.
Do you believe you will be bodily resurrected
when Jesus Christ comes again?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GOD is wonderfully.
>Do you believe you will be bodily resurrected
>when Jesus Christ comes again?
It is possible that this physician, still being alive, will not need
to be bodily resurrected to meet the Messiah in the air when He
returns.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
Happy Oyster
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>GOD is wonderful :-)
Sure. God is a good tool to deceit people, who are so stupid to believe in
unproven insane claims.
.
--
Leben und Sterben im Pazifik
monkfish
Any idea when He will come?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
When the people who remain of this world least expect Him to return
just as the Great Flood of Noah's time happened when people who
remained of this world least expected it.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
monkfish
And you will have to give account
for all your proud words spoken to people
who just want you to go away.
Matthew 12:35-37 (New International Version)
[quote]
35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the
evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell
you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every
careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted,
and by your words you will be condemned."
[/quote]
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>> >
>>> >>Do you believe you will be bodily resurrected
>>> >>when Jesus Christ comes again?
>>> >
>>> > It is possible that this physician, still being alive, will not need
>>> > to be bodily resurrected to meet the Messiah in the air when He
>>> > returns.
>>>
>>> Any idea when He will come?
>>
>> When the people who remain of this world least expect Him to return
>> just as the Great Flood of Noah's time happened when people who
>> remained of this world least expected it.
>
> And you will have to give account
> for all your proud words spoken to people
> who just want you to go away.
It remains this physician's personal choice to continue to receive the
guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and written.
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d0ad1468eb538ad?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) and would come to trust the truth, Who is
monkfish
You are just deluding yourself.
If you are really getting the guidance of the Holy Spirit,
everyone here would know it by the fruits of the Spirit.
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Not for the discerning.
> If you are really getting the guidance of the Holy Spirit,
> everyone here would know it by the fruits of the Spirit.
Indeed all the discerning know it :-)
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
monkfish
Is that what you tell yourself?
What are your fruits of the Spirit?
Pride and arrogance?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You would not be asking that question if you were among the
discerning.
In order to be among the discerning, you need to be born again of
water and Spirit.
If you were born again of water and Spirit, you would be able to
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth.
Again, with more respect that due you, can you, Monkfish, publicly say
"Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
If not, why not?
monkfish
You misunderstood.
Fruits of the Spirit would be apparent to all people.
Stop deluding yourself.
--
monkfish
Frisky Dingo
>>
>> Is that what you tell yourself?
>
> You would not be asking that question if you were among the
> discerning.
You can't even tell when a question is THAT full of rhetoric? Were you born
an idiot or did you aspire to that? (BTW, genius, THAT was a rhetorical
question, we already know you're an idiot)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You are in error because you continue to be guided by the spirit of
error (self).
> Fruits of the Spirit would be apparent to all people.
Not to the spiritually blind like you and others who are not born
again of water and Spirit.
> Stop deluding yourself.
Would kindly suggest that you stop being deluded by your self (spirit
of error).
Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
monkfish
Do you even know what the fruit of the Spirit is?
Can you publicly write "I love all people"?
Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
[quote]
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things
there is no law.
[/quote]
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yes, this physician is able to recognize fruits of the Spirit. One
such fruit of the Holy Spirit is publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
ones mouth (1 Cor 12:3 and Romans 10:9).
>Can you publicly write "I love all people"?
Yes.
"I love all people."
Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> error (self).
>>
>>
>> again of water and Spirit.
>>
>>
>> Would kindly suggest that you stop being deluded by your self (spirit
>> of error).
>
>Do you even know what the fruit of the Spirit is?
Yes, this physician is able to recognize fruits of the Spirit. One
such fruit of the Holy Spirit is publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" using
ones mouth (1 Cor 12:3 and Romans 10:9).
>Can you publicly write "I love all people"?
Yes.
"I love all people."
Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
monkfish
You should write it without the quotation marks.
> Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your mouth?
I do that often enough.
But I'm not going to help you be superstitious about it.
I don't care how many times you do that,
if you just cannot be Christian enough
to leave the desperate people at the cardiology newsgroup alone.
Can you publicly write "God is love"?
If you understand it, you would leave the newsgroup.
--
monkfish
monkfish
Jesus is Lord.
God is love.
If you know what that means,
you would stop asking people
to say your superstitious mantra.
Can you publicly write "God is love"?
Without quotation marks, please.
--
monkfish
Frisky Dingo
>>Can you publicly write "I love all people"?
>
> Yes.
>
> "I love all people."
So you can lie too. But we already knew that.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > LORD" using your mouth.
>
> I'm not buying your superstition.
Your fingers being different from your mouth is not superstition.
Again, if you truly believe in your heart that GOD raised Jesus from
the dead (Romans 10:9) then please kindly allow this physician to hear
you say "Jesus is LORD" via the voicemail accessible at the number
given at the bottom of the following web site:
(If being caller ID'd is a concern, there is always *67 before dialing
the number)
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
>> >> > mouth?
>> >>
>> >> Jesus is Lord.
>> >
>> > Being able to type it is not the same as being able to say "Jesus is
>> > LORD" using your mouth.
>>
>> I'm not buying your superstition.
>
> Your fingers being different from your mouth is not superstition.
I'm not buying your superstition.
You can say "Jesus is Lord" all you want.
So long as you are too proud and arrogant
to listen to other people,
you don't love them.
God is love.
If you understand what that means,
you would not even dream of asking them
to say your superstitious mantra.
Especially never in sci.med.cardiology.
Can you publicly write "God is love"?
--
monkfish
Xander Crews
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:0652a76a-7e08-4852...@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > monkfish wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" using your
>> >> > mouth?
>> >>
>> >> Jesus is Lord.
>> >
>> > Being able to type it is not the same as being able to say "Jesus is
>> > LORD" using your mouth.
>>
>> I'm not buying your superstition.
>
> Your fingers being different from your mouth is not superstition.
Don't be an idiot. God isn't measuring one's commitment to Christ by using
your mouth versus your fingers. You prove your stupidity every time you
post.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Monkfish, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
monkfish
> Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
> haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
> reality:
1 John 4:7-9 (New International Version)
[quote]
7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone
who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does
not know God, because God is love. 9This is how God showed his love among
us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through
him.
[/quote]
"Everyone who loves ... knows God."
Would you like to learn how to love people here?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
> > haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
> > reality:
>
> 1 John 4:7-9 (New International Version)
> [quote]
> 7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone
> who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does
> not know God, because God is love. 9This is how God showed his love among
> us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through
> him.
> [/quote]
Amen.
Referring to the Bible is wonderful as one way to stop lying :-)
> "Everyone who loves ... knows God."
GOD is love :-)
Most assuredly without doubt, this physician knows and **understands**
GOD to be kind, just, and right (Jeremiah 9:24).
> Would you like to learn how to love people here?
Your question indicates that you are clueless about the fact that love
is needed in order to truly pray for another as this physician has
been praying for you and others like you who have not been born again
of water and Spirit.
The ultimate gesture of love is giving others something they need but
do not want with the full understanding that they will be angry about
it.
"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his
friends." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 15:3)
Amen.
Simon Peter was angry at the Messiah for His decision to lay down His
life for His friends !!!
Again, would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
monkfish
And you cannot leave the cardiology newsgroup for others?
Do you even realize how moronic your position is?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cac0d4c125e6cae2?
monkfish
> Would continue to gently suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-
> haste before you start believing the lies and suffer a break from
> reality:
You are too clueless about God
to love others properly.
1 John 4:7-9 (New International Version)
[quote]
7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone
who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does
not know God, because God is love. 9This is how God showed his love among
us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through
him.
[/quote]
Can you publicly write "I'm here
to learn how to love"?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
physician's heart:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d06d19f8869da55?
Again, if you truly believe in your heart that GOD raised Jesus from
the dead (Romans 10:9) then please kindly allow this physician to hear
you say "Jesus is LORD" via the voicemail accessible at the number
given at the bottom of the following web site:
(If being caller ID'd is a concern, there is always *67 before dialing
the number)
Love in the truth,