Re: Some people are clueless.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Here some days ago I was in town and I spoke to someone I kinda knew
> decades ago. Anyway, the person mentions DM, I make a suggestion, a
> gentle one by my standards and the person indicated a complete
> unwillingness to think.
> So I suggested a specific author and this was rebuffed with a complete
> unwillingness.
>
> This person wasn't apparently concerned with a morning FBG of 180!!!
>
> was anyone home?.........diabetes of the brain?
It starts with being clueless about how much we are eating and gets
worse from there.
Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
I'm an Obsessive Compulsive QUACK, who has been around for
quite a few years now, and over time (the last 5 years or so) my
posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion and what seems a
paranoid belief in my 2lb diet.
Very sad to a see me, a once clever man go down the gurgler like
this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of my disease -
schizophrenia and my obsessive compulsive obsessions
I'm Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in Medical Quackology
Dr. Frank N Stein
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> someone wrote:
>>
>> Here some days ago I was in town and I spoke to someone I kinda knew
>> decades ago. Anyway, the person mentions DM, I make a suggestion, a
>> gentle one by my standards and the person indicated a complete
>> unwillingness to think.
>> So I suggested a specific author and this was rebuffed with a complete
>> unwillingness.
>>
>> This person wasn't apparently concerned with a morning FBG of 180!!!
>>
>> was anyone home?.........diabetes of the brain?
>
> It starts with being clueless about how much we are eating and gets
> worse from there.
Lie (clueless lie).
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken simply because we really love him as our LORD commands (John
15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.
Ken wrote:
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
> Albert Einstein ...
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?
Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.
For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.
Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.
There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?
Bottom line concerning you, Ken:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:
May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken
quite a few years now, and over time (the last 5 years or so) my
posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion and what seems a
paranoid belief in my 2lb diet.
Very sad to a see me, a once clever man go down the gurgler like
this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of my disease -
schizophrenia and my obsessive compulsive obsessions
I'm Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in Medical Quackology
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I'm an Obsessive Compulsive QUACK, who has been around for
> quite a few years now, and over time (the last 5 years or so) my
> posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
> knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion ...
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da565a664f7ada4e?
Indeed you clearly are :-)
Would suggest http://WDJW.net/NoReligion
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
and then...
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
And you are all quite correct
Andy Chung....Bat Shit KrAZy and I approved this message
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in Medical Quackology
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Quackologist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ken simply because we really love him as our LORD commands (John
15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.
Ken wrote:
> I'm an Obsessive Compulsive QUACK, who has been around for
> quite a few years now, and over time (the last 5 years or so) my
> posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
> knowledgeable to now being consumed with religion ...
Indeed you clearly are :-)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/abcee4035a76ffa5?
Would suggest http://WDJW.net/NoReligion
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
and then...
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
Marana tha
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
quite a few years now, and over time (the last 5 years or so) my
posts have degenerated from once being helpful and
paranoid belief in my 2lb diet.
Very sad to a see me, a once clever man go down the gurgler like
this,
but that is unfortunately the nature of my disease -
I'm Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Quack
Ace
wrote:
Scripture twisting false Christian Little Andy Chung blathered:
> It starts with being clueless about how much we are eating and gets
> worse from there.
>
> Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> more sophisticated and smarter:
If only you could convince someone besides your sockpuppets (MU and
Chris Malcolm), imaginary colleges and artificial cyber friends, that
this isn't pure nonsense. Perhaps some valid corroboration or
empirical evidence. But alas for you, it's just plain 'ol
insubstantial nonsense, anyway you weigh it.
A*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Ace's perishing mind simply because we really love him as our LORD
commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.
Evidence that Ace* is born again (Jn3:3&5) until Ace* deleted his
YouTube account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuWCkxxVdFo
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcece5df8d7697f7?
All can recall from memory that if Ace* weren't prodigal, he would
have been able to boldly say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth on YouTube
without cowering behind both a sockpuppet and a fake name. Moreover,
he would not have fearfully deleted his YouTube account as witnessed
by all when GOD blessed him more making him hungrier now (Luke 6:21a).
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a727291fe2aae160?
Now, if Ace* weren't prodigal, he would stop unwittingly exposing
himself as a fraud here while trying to hide behind various fake
names.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f225d5db5e16ed27?
prodigal Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Therefore, it is smart to eat just the right amount (32 oz) of daily
> > food thereby neither underdose nor overdose it.
>
> Q: Can you post empirical evidence, outside of your own substantiated
> personal claims, that 32 oz is the correct amount of food to eat irrespective of
> calories, trans fats, sugar, cholesterol and sodium?
Yes. See Deuteronomy 8:4 which summarizes 40 years of empirical
evidence supporting the efficacy of holding to the right amount (omer)
of daily real food (manna) as prescribed by the Great Physician
(Exodus 16+16=32 oz) Who is this HeartDoc's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc
) Boss.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2899814fe7890f4d?
prodigal Ace* (aka Brian G. Kelley, PhD) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Thus, it remains much smarter to http://WDJW.net/NotDiet and
> > instead,http://WDJW.net/Guard the body by holding to the right daily amount
> > (32 oz) of food in order to lose the VAT thereby possibly curing the
> > type-2 diabetes.
> >
> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>
> For which there is no clinical study.
Actually, there has been a clinical study held out of Emory University
that enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. It remains
this physician's choice to not publish it since it pales in comparison
to the comparably sized but much longer duration 40 year clinical
study by the Great Physician, Who is this physician's Boss, Who
published this in the Bible with the miraculous results of 100%
efficacy (Deuteronomy 8:4). This choice to not publish results that do
not add to what is reported in the Bible would be this lead
investigator's right. Truth is simply reality.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d5360a6ad0ae565c?
prodigal Ace* shrieked:
> HUNGER IS STARVATION
Delusion.
Hunger is not starvation as evident by it being synonymous with
appetite, which everyone knows is absolutely healthy:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hunger
> Psychopath.
Lie. Psychopaths don't openly pray on Usenet to ask GOD to destroy
profanely (Hebrews 12:16) evil (Genesis 25:32) creatures whom GOD
hates (Malachi 1:2-3) much less author books ( http://NetCabal.com and
http://CelestinMiracle.com ) and treat cardiac patients while
maintaining an active medical license that is verifiable on line.
Truth is reality.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b646de8f6d07ac87?
prodigal Ace* shrieked:
> > > 30 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR DIE OF HUNGER:
> > >http://peacenowar.net/newpeace/images/stories/hunger-sm.jpg
> >
> > If that were true, hunger instead of starvation would be listed as the
> > cause of death on their death certificates.
>
> If that were true, since "smoking" isn't listed as the cause of death on
> death certificates, people don't die from it.
Smoking is listed as the cause of death of smokers in Britain:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1113208/
Thus, people die from smoking.
Bottom line:
You need to repent and stop being prodigal else something worse may
happen to you (John 5:14)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b454aab62e6fb10b?
prodigal Ace* timidly wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Specifically, T2s need to lose their VAT which is the proximate cause
> > of their disease.
> >
> > The smartest way to do this is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet (i.e.
> > restricting food choices) but rather to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of real food.
>
> Which is apparently not endorsed by any other physician ...
Lie.
This physician's LORD, Who is the Great Physician, is another
physician and the concept of one right daily amount (omer) for
everyone is by His design as revealed by what is written at Exodus
16:16. Laus Deo for His allowing this physician working in
collaboration with his physician colleagues at Emory University
( http://EmoryIMVC.org ) to discover in 1997 that an omer of real food
weighs 32 oz. All bona-fide physicians who know about the 32 oz of the
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach have given their tacit approval
about it as evident by none either writing or speaking about an
alternative right daily amount of real food.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/039c15d33b9993e1?
Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d1b49966a79db71b?
IMVC is the International Medical VAT Cure (aka http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach )
Now stop lying Ace* or something worse may happen to you (John 5:14).
May GOD bless you, Ace*, now (Luke 6:21a) more than ever causing you
to become hungrier (Deuteronomy 8:3) than ever thereby helping you
realize that if hunger were starvation you would be dying a thousand
deaths now that you are a thousand times hungrier in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ae9391ce0321e0d6?
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our http://WDJW.net/Status and then http://WDJW.net/Update
so that there would be http://WDJW.net/NoVAT
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth
May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/
"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
And I like it!
Bat ShitKraZy and I approve of this message
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in all forms of Quackology