Re: OT: The uncomfortable truth about mind control: Is free will simply a myth?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 9, 2011, 6:22:11 AM1/9/11

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Ellen K. wrote:
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-mind-control-is-free-will-simply-a-myth-2177014.html
>
> The uncomfortable truth about mind control: Is free will simply a myth?
>
> In the Sixties, a groundbreaking series of experiments found that 65 per
> cent of us would kill if ordered to do so.
>
> By Michael Mosley
>
> Thursday, 6 January 2011
>
> We have vain brains; we see ourselves as better than we really are. We like
> to think that we exercise free will, that put into a situation where we were
> challenged to do something we thought unacceptable then we'd refuse. But, if
> you believe that, then you are probably deluded.
>
> I make this claim, based partly on the work of psychologist Stanley Milgram.
> Milgram devised and carried out ingenious experiments that exposed the
> frailty and self-delusion that are central to our lives. He showed how easy
> it is to make ordinary people do terrible things, that "evil" often happens
> for the most mundane of reasons.

It is written that the heart, where free will resides, is deceitful
and desperately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9).

Only those of us with our minds renewed (Ephesians 4:23) and
strengthened (Philippians 4:13) by GOD can guard (Proverbs 4:23) our
wicked heart to keep from doing evil things including especially
overeating which is not OT here.

The latter is free choice, which resides in the mind, to hold to the
right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Ace

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Jan 9, 2011, 8:20:13 AM1/9/11

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On Jan 9, 3:22 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> The latter is free choice, which resides in the mind, to hold to the
> right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

There's Zero proof of that.

> Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> more sophisticated and smarter:

One person in 8 years, that's some case study :-)

A*

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 10, 2011, 8:37:42 AM1/10/11

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Ace* wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The latter is free choice, which resides in the mind, to hold to the
> > right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/27af14f23618c6d7?

> There's Zero proof of that.

The fact that anencephalics are unable to freely choose proves the
above written statement by this physician.

> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:
>
> One person in 8 years, that's some case study :-)

Chris Malcolm is simply a Usenet participant who currently serves well
as a live example who is in stark contrast to the dead Usenet example
of Bob Pastorio who had freely chosen to continue in the sin of
gluttony by eating more than 32 oz per day until he was stricken by
GOD to not able to eat until he died thereby realizing the admonition
of John 5:14.

May this also serve as an admonition to you, Ace.

Ace* wrote:
>
> How can my soul be perishing since I'm able to say "Jesus is LORD"
> with my mouth?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2477bae2a57ec5c6?

Those who write they can say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth without
allowing all to witness that they can say "Jesus is LORD" with their
mouth as others have done at the LORD's http://WDJW.net web site, as a
general rule, can't say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth.

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Ace* wrote:
> > > carole wrote:
> >
> > > > Of course his 2PD-omer whatever that is wouldn't work.
> > > > How could it?
> > > > There is a big difference between 4 oz of steak and 4 oz of chicken
> > > > soup which contains mainly water.
> >
> > > Exactly, needless to say.
> > > It's obvious that I'd lose weight faster and maintain a healthy weight
> > > if I ate 5 lbs of raw vegetables a day, rather than if I ate 2lbs of
> > > french fries a day.
> >
> > Neither the raw vegetable diet nor the french fry diet are the 2PD-
> > OMER Approach because the latter is simply http://WDJW.net/NotDiet
>
> That link goes nowhere, just like the 2PD-OMER

Incorrect. The link goes to:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30865215&l=c5b6e6491f&id=1467768946

Laus Deo for His allowing you to demonstrate yet again that there is
no truth in you.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/68203156e326e8c4?

Ace* wrote:

>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WARNING BEWARE
>WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>2PD-OMER is of the Devil! Do not partake of the Devil's sacrament or
>givest thou to Beelzebub's rituals!
>He who partakes of 2PD-OMER carries the Mark of the Beast! 2PD-OMER is
>a demonic cipher that equates to six hundred threescore and six. 2PD-
>OMER = 666!

2 doesn't become 6 by any cipher demonic or otherwise.

Truth is reality.

Laus Deo for His allowing you to demonstrate yet again that there is
no truth in you.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43ac51288fba2ee9?

Ace* wrote:

> Now CNN is detailing the Twinkie diet that helped a nutrition
> professor lose 27 lbs.
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
>
> Why has there NEVER been anything like this about the 2PD-OMER?

This physician chooses to interview only with respectable media
outlets that do not push fad diets.

Indeed, the 2PD-OMER Approach is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet and has an
awesome $2,000,000.00 guarantee of efficacy:

http://WDJW.net/Guarantee

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/499b3015ae36072d?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> There is only one known way to lose all the terribly bad internal VAT
>> (intraabdominal fat) and that is to hold to the right daily amount (32
>> oz) of food.
>
> Which is virtually completely unknown

Chris Malcolm, who is European (thereby showing that the 2PD-OMER
Approach is widely known globally) residing in Edinburgh, has known
about it for more than 5 years:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

Laus Deo for His compelling you to unwittingly and compulsively keep
on demonstrating that there is no truth in you.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa53ae0bcebf4764?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace* wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> > > Not for the discerning who know the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of
>> > > Nazareth (Jn14:6).
>
>> > Translation: The truth for you is whatever you decide/"discern" it is.
>
>> Incorrect.
>
> You're such a white stained sepulcher, Andrew.

Not while advocating http://WDJW.net/NoReligion

Truth is reality.

Again you have shown there is no truth in you.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ebbee5385e5bf1ce?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace* wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > Ace* wrote:
>>
>> > > > In other words, this solitary publication is not about 2PD-OMER.
>>
>> > > It is for the discerning who have actually read the book.
>>
>> > That's not very many people is it?
>>
>> Only GOD knows how many :-)
>
> That's right, the virtual total lack of recognition of the 2PD-OMER is
> pure mystique ;-)

Then your knowing about it is a miracle :-)

When the time is right and the LORD willing, all will know about the
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach and its awesome guarantee:

http://WDJW.net/Guarantee

... which may possibly (Mt19:26) be raised to $2 Billion Dollars after
a multibillionaire friend tests it out on himself to see if there is
any way he can personally thwart it :-)

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4072e0587dd3d337?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace* wrote:
>
>> > What the name of firm did you retained to be the guarantor?
>>
>> The LORD GOD Almighty, Himself, is serving as the Guarantor here :-)
>
>You make it sound like He's employed by you.

Not for the discerning who know that GOD is the Great Physician and is
therefore this physician's Employer. Truth is reality :-)

It is written that the streets of Heaven are paved with real gold :-)

And so the awesome $2,000,000.00 guarantee of the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach is backed by real gold:

http://WDJW.net/Guarantee

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a6cbcefd3ec5ac14?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
> > Ace* wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Ace* wrote:
> >
> > > > >Good people. Very understanding.
> >
> > > > >A*
> >
> > > > Glad to read that they treated you well in their jail facility.
> >
> > > Yeah, really amazing considering anyone can tell I'm posting from
> > > Henderson, NV
> >
> > Glad to read you got back home safely after your ordeal of being in
> > jail.
>
> Yeah, makes no sense ...

Paranoid delusions of home invasion that compel folks to flee from
their homes tend to be nonsensical and are irrational.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/db83c4be161fce0b?

Ace* wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Ace* wrote:
>>
>> > As I explained before, evil forces are keeping me from adhering to the
>> > 2PD-OMER ritual.
>>
>> The delusional thoughts are your own.
>
> That's what the voices keep saying that its all my fault!

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3e8cd2af7d8aee76?

It is your fault for falsely thinking that the 2PD-OMER Approach is a
ritual instead of a prescription.

It is your own spirit that is evil and as shown yet again, there is no
truth in you.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e3c6ff18f2265840?

May GOD change your stony heart, Ace, and give you a new spirit
(Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is
Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the Truth,

Ken

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Jan 10, 2011, 11:23:04 AM1/10/11

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His incessent interant ravings

Jan Drew

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Jan 10, 2011, 8:38:25 PM1/10/11

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Reported again.

Bob Officer

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Jan 10, 2011, 8:43:53 PM1/10/11

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:38:25 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
Jan Drew <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote:

>Reported again.

Do you think it will make any difference?

--
Bob Officer

"One of my pet hates is being made an idiot
out of ...but you go right ahead"
Carole Hubbard in Message-ID:
<RWpco.4333$FH2....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 10, 2011, 8:45:38 PM1/10/11

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
Ken simply because we truly love him as our LORD commands (John 15:12)
with all glory to GOD the Father.

Ken wrote:
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
> Albert Einstein ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?

... and ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?

Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.

For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.

Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.