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David Von Pein

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:28:35 PM3/25/09
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www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/4c686b2d57ce352b


Many other instances of Mark Lane playing fast and loose with the
facts surrounding JFK's murder can be found in his 1966 hour-long chat
with the famous William F. Buckley Jr. (recorded shortly after Lane's
book, "Rush To Judgment", was published that same year).

The entire Buckley/Lane interview can be found here:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNAwI5DVdQ&feature=PlayList&p=302AF54066C6F0DE&index=32


www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=302AF54066C6F0DE&page=2


Most CTers will no doubt feel that Mark Lane won the "debate" with Mr.
Buckley during that 1966 interview. And, yes, Lane handled himself
quite well. I cannot deny that. (I think the pipe that Lane is
constantly holding tends to help him appear more "distinguished"-
looking, etc.)

But Mr. Buckley, who believed that Oswald shot Kennedy and acted
alone, gets in a few good LN points of his own.

www.youtube.com/profile?user=DavidVonPein&view=playlists

aeffects

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Mar 26, 2009, 4:46:46 AM3/26/09
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On Mar 25, 8:28 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/4c686...

>
> Many other instances of Mark Lane playing fast and loose with the
> facts surrounding JFK's murder can be found in his 1966 hour-long chat
> with the famous William F. Buckley Jr. (recorded shortly after Lane's
> book, "Rush To Judgment", was published that same year).

the "facts" surrounding JFK's assassination and specifically the WCR
have been challenged. Mark Lane makes THAT fact very clear.

> The entire Buckley/Lane interview can be found here:
>

> www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNAwI5DVdQ&feature=PlayList&p=302AF54066C6F0...

Gil Jesus

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Mar 27, 2009, 7:40:47 AM3/27/09
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On Mar 25, 10:57�pm, timst...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi mnhay27,
>
> You recently opened a thread here about the honesty or otherwise of what
> Mark Lane wrote in Rush To Judgement.
>
> Here is Anderson Exhibit # 1, which speaks to Oswald's ability as a rifle
> shooter:
>
> http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_00...
>
> Let's look at how Lane deals with this in his book on page 108 (Penguin PB
> edition):
>
> QUOTE ON:
>
> What do we know about Oswald's proficiency with a rifle? That he was a
> relatively poor shot and betrayed a dislike of weapons to a Marine Corps
> friend.
>
> QUOTE OFF
>
> Any honest reading of the Anderson exhibit shows that Oswald's shooting
> ability runs the whole gamut from a fairly good shot to a rather poor
> shot.
>
> Lane has simply cherry picked what suits his argument in constructing his
> dishonest drivel and presenting it as bald fact. There are numerous
> examples of this kind of *research* by Lane.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

ROFLMAO

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Gil Jesus

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Mar 27, 2009, 7:56:31 AM3/27/09
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On Mar 27, 7:40�am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:

> ROFLMAO

FUNNY HOW TIMMY DIDN'T POST THE TESTIMONY THAT REVEALED HOW SHOOTING
SCORES WERE FAKED

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1d40577f894e6e5c


FUNNY HOW TIMMY DIDN'T POST THE LINK TO NELSON DELGADO'S ASSESSMENT OF
OSWALD'S SHOOTING SKILLS ON VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKZbSUm2eFY


It's called DECEPTION BY OMISSION and it's a favorite tactic of the
LNers, used often by David Von Pinhead.

It's what makes them a joke.

David Von Pein

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Mar 27, 2009, 8:03:04 AM3/27/09
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A81RMvi-JY&fmt=18


VINCE BUGLIOSI -- "Given the fact that Oswald was about to get out of
the Marines when he was in your unit, and the fact that he showed no
interest in firing on the range -- you don't attribute his poor
showing on the range to his being a poor shot?"

NELSON DELGADO -- "No."

BUGLIOSI -- "He could have done better, you felt, if he tried?"

DELGADO -- "Certainly."

Gil Jesus

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Mar 27, 2009, 8:20:09 AM3/27/09
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Hey dipshit:

How many times does a 18-20 year old kid fail and suffer ridicule
before his confidence is destroyed and he finally gives up trying ?

There was a reason why he "showed no interest" in firing a rifle.

IDIOT

David Von Pein

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Mar 27, 2009, 8:38:49 AM3/27/09
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>>> "How many times does a 18-20 year old kid fail and suffer ridicule before his confidence is destroyed and he finally gives up trying? There was a reason why he "showed no interest" in firing a rifle." <<<

To a kook like Gilbert Jesus, a 212 "Sharpshooter" score on a Marine
Corps rifle range is supposed to be considered a "failing" score.*

* = And LHO achieved his Sharpshooter status when he was only 17 years
old, in his first year in the Marines. He couldn't care less about
impressing anybody with his rifle abilities after a couple of years in
the Corps. Like with all other jobs in his life, LHO lost interest in
the Marines over a period of time. And the Marine Corps was just
another "job" for Oswald as a teenager. Nothing more.

Better try again, Gil Jesus. Your "Oswald Was A Rotten Shot" type of
crap is pathetic (as always).

Besides, even if Ozzie had scored a "0" in all of his test scores in
the Marines, it still wouldn't erase the fact that all of the evidence
STILL makes him guilty of killing John Kennedy.

Try knocking down that last factual paragraph, Gilly.

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2009, 8:40:26 AM3/27/09
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If anyone should know the answer to that its you Chico...you've been
failing for 55 years and still don't know enough to give up
LOL ......IDIOT!!!

Gil Jesus

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Mar 27, 2009, 11:13:30 PM3/27/09
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On Mar 27, 8:40�am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If anyone should know the answer to that its you Chico...you've been
> failing for 55 years and still don't know enough to give up
> LOL ......IDIOT!!!

JOEY, WHY MUST YOU FORCE ME TO REPEATEDLY PROVE TO THE WORLD WHAT A
FRUITCAKE YOU REALLY ARE ?

INTRODUCING THE BIZARRE AND UNPROVEN RANTINGS OF THE IGNORANT RAVING
LUNATIC FAILURE KNOWN AS JUSTME1952


BIZARRE RANTING # 1 --- THE IMPOSTER


Justme1952 accused an "imposter" of posting a post of his to other
newsgroups, when in fact HE was the one who cross-posted it:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/a1714b6d2ffd26fd


when he found out that his post was on other newsgroups, he flipped
out, blaming the "imposter" for creating "bogus" newsgroups :

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/55eea239ebd9c15d


These unbelievable posts from a self described "Information
Technology" EXPERT with over 12 years experience. Since, then, he's
seen Gil Jesuses everywhere. Every new poster using AOL has been
accused of being me. In addition, he was so convinced that I was the
imposter, he complained to AIOE, the news server that I was using at
the time, then announced that he had received an e-mail from them
advising that I had been banned from the newsserver.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b6ffb12116db4645


Justme accused me of being the "imposter", who posted under the name
"Oliver Clozov".

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c127df0daa6e70f3


But he slipped and admitted that both the IP and ISP addresses of the
"imposter" were his.

"I have his ip addy and his isp he uses....its the same one I use."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b9e5e74788bbacd0


And according to this German website, the alias used by the imposter
"Oliver Clozov" WAS actually used by justme1952 himself :

http://profile.nntp2http.com/5674978589d439aedb4e151f7b6a4a71.htm

---------------------------------------------------

BIZARRE RANTING # 2 ---- BANNED FROM AIOE


Justme told the world that he had "proven" that the imposter was me
and as a result, had gotten me "banned" from AIOE, the server that I
had been using at the time.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c127df0daa6e70f3


But when I proved that I could still post from that server, Justme
claimed, without providing any evidence, that I could somehow
circumvent the server's banlist.

"Took you all night and day to figure out how to deceive AIOE again
huh Chico?"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/6ed1a96f33be24a4

----------------------------------------------------

BIZARRE RANTING # 3 ------ SEEING GIL JESUSES EVERYWHERE


Justme accuses me of being "Robcap", mistaking the AOL ISP as our
"exact IP address".

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7a1db72289083992


Justme accuses me of being "Curious George"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/5671af0b682e64af


Justme accuses me of being "Oliver Clozov"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c127df0daa6e70f3


Justme accuses me of being "Justin", "justinsmom", "samlappacunt",
"justacunt" and "jmoore".

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/5fec9541083f12cc


------------------------------------------

BIZARRE RANTING # 4 ----- THE EDITED VIDEO


Justme posts on 2/8/09:

GIL JESUS POSTED A VIDEO ........ OF O'NEILL STATING THAT AFTER
LOOKING AT THE MEDICAL REPORTS HE SAID "WAIT A MINUTE".

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/79c6b5ddecdca827


But as one can tell from watching the video, Frank O'Neill says no
such thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmfqDOnZu_Q


When Justme realizes that O'Neill said no such thing in the video, he
responds:

"GIL JESUS EDITS O'NEILLS VIDEO AFTER PROVEN WRONG"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7f53a32f0bffc9a0


But the video page indicates that the video was uploaded on September
15, 2007 and could not have been edited since then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmfqDOnZu_Q


tims...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2009, 5:06:51 PM3/28/09
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Hey, didn't this bald idiot, Gil Jesus, often publicly proclaim that
he favoured *civility* in newsgroup posting?

Just as well the bald hypocrite didn't propose *uncivility* in
newsgroup posting, eh? LOL!

justm...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2009, 5:29:52 PM3/28/09
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Oh yes Tim, the bigot boy and his bible spewing bullshit who starts
all the threads about lesbians and other people day after day because
he's getting his ass kicked by all the LN's that know what a lying,
hypocritical Christian, bigot he is. The more he tries to defend
himself, the more he proves what we have all been saying about him for
over a year now. He's nothing more then a big loser and hes got Healy
and Rossley on his side ROFLMAO

snl1...@yahoo.com

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Mar 28, 2009, 5:49:46 PM3/28/09
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On Mar 27, 11:13 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 8:40 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If anyone should know the answer to that its you Chico...you've been
> > failing for 55 years and still don't know enough to give up
> > LOL ......IDIOT!!!
>
> JOEY, WHY MUST YOU FORCE ME TO REPEATEDLY PROVE TO THE WORLD WHAT A
> FRUITCAKE YOU REALLY ARE ?

"PROVE TO THE WORLD"? What "WORLD"? The "WORLD" of fruitcakes? 300
million people in united states, and I forget how many billion people
world-wide, and there are less than 10 people who inhabit this place
out of all of those numbers.
You'd better get yourself a more entertaining hobby, Gil, if you
honestly believe that the average citizen would even give this place a
serious glance! Lurkers may come and go, but they certainly do not
take the nuthouse seriously!

tomnln

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Mar 28, 2009, 5:53:49 PM3/28/09
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On Mar 28, 5:06 pm, timst...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 11:20 pm, Gil Jesus <
gjjm...@aol.com
> wrote:

>
> > Hey dipshit:
>
> > How many times does a 18-20 year old kid fail and suffer ridicule
> > before his confidence is destroyed and he finally gives up trying ?
>
> > There was a reason why he "showed no interest" in firing a rifle.
>
> > IDIOT
>
> Hey, didn't this bald idiot, Gil Jesus, often publicly proclaim that
> he favoured *civility* in newsgroup posting?
>
> Just as well the bald hypocrite didn't propose *uncivility* in
> newsgroup posting, eh? LOL!
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
justme wrote;

Oh yes Tim, the bigot boy and his bible spewing bullshit who starts
all the threads about lesbians and other people day after day because
he's getting his ass kicked by all the LN's that know what a lying,
hypocritical Christian, bigot he is. The more he tries to defend
himself, the more he proves what we have all been saying about him for
over a year now. He's nothing more then a big loser and hes got Healy
and Rossley on his side ROFLMAO
 
 
 
 
I write;
 
Looks like justme SKIPPED addressing evidence/testimony AGAIN.
 
I don't think Anyone is Surprised ! ! !
 
 
justme fits in here Perfectly>>>   http://whokilledjfk.net/enemy_within.htm
 
Looks like we don't have to travel 6,000 miles to find an Enemy !
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 

tomnln

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Mar 28, 2009, 6:30:09 PM3/28/09
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<snl1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:186b1af4-421e-46b6...@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 27, 11:13 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 8:40 am, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If anyone should know the answer to that its you Chico...you've been
> > failing for 55 years and still don't know enough to give up
> > LOL ......IDIOT!!!
>
> JOEY, WHY MUST YOU FORCE ME TO REPEATEDLY PROVE TO THE WORLD WHAT A
> FRUITCAKE YOU REALLY ARE ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
steve barber wrote;

"PROVE TO THE WORLD"? What "WORLD"? The "WORLD" of fruitcakes? 300
million people in united states, and I forget how many billion people
world-wide, and there are less than 10 people who inhabit this place
out of all of those numbers.
You'd better get yourself a more entertaining hobby, Gil, if you
honestly believe that the average citizen would even give this place a
serious glance! Lurkers may come and go, but they certainly do not
take the nuthouse seriously!


I write;

REALLY good to see you posting again steve.

What's the reason for this return to Life?

Are you here to address evidence/testimony this time?

OR, are you here to Insult & Threaten me AGAIN?

Remember the last time you & I locked horns?

You ended up as a "Eunich".

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/law_suits.htm

Found under>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/rogue.htm

Start with your friends Tampering with Evidence>>>

http://whokilledjfk.net/altering_evidence.htm

http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm

http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm

btw;

Do those other LN's know you're NOT Married.

You know how they tease Gil Jesus ! ! !


WELCOME BACK STEVERINO! ! !

tims...@gmail.com

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Mar 28, 2009, 9:22:27 PM3/28/09
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On Mar 27, 10:56 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 7:40 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > ROFLMAO
>
> FUNNY HOW TIMMY DIDN'T POST THE TESTIMONY THAT REVEALED HOW SHOOTING
> SCORES WERE FAKED
>

Funny how the issue has already been debated and show to have no
relevance, isn't it, bald cretin?

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1d40577f894e6e5c
>
> FUNNY HOW TIMMY DIDN'T POST THE LINK TO NELSON DELGADO'S ASSESSMENT OF
> OSWALD'S SHOOTING SKILLS ON VIDEO
>

Funny how it's already been shown that Bugliosi got him to say
different under oath, isn't it, bald idiot?

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKZbSUm2eFY
>
> It's called DECEPTION BY OMISSION and it's a favorite tactic of the
> LNers, used often by David Von Pinhead.
>
> It's what makes them a joke.

The only joke around here is you, you bald leper and very non-
crackerjack JFK researcher, you, LOL!

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