CURIOUS GEORGE IS NONE OTHER THEN ROBCRAP/JESUS
justm...@gmail.com
newsgroup what I have just discovered.
Below is posted the header from a post by "Curious George" It
appears
our token idiot Jesus/Robcrap decided to play a few head games with
you all. Curious George is none other then Robcrap using a different
name. Just click on the view profile and see what you get. Also,
below
is a header from his post where he inadvertanly forgot to get rid of
his robcap email address. He has created a gmail account thinking no
one would know it was him. The ip posting host is also the same as
Jesus/robcrap.
Sorry to burst your bubble Georgie, you would think after being
caught
4 or 5 times already you would learn your lesson. I thought there was
something suspicious about your posts, would you like to crawl back
into your hole and hide from embarrassment now? What a loser....
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From: "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: Basic Questions
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bigdog
wrote:
ROFLMAO!!! Good catch justme,
It was bad enough when Jesus/robocrap was carrying on conversations
with himself. Now he is arguing with himself. I wonder what else he
does with himself.
Scratch that. I don't really want to know.
justm...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks bigdog, just couldn't see you guys wasting anymore time on this
goof by trying to answer his stupid questions. He lost with his last
approach, he must have thought playing the dummy would get him
somewhere...it got him somewhere allright...HUMILIATED! ROFLMAO.
CuriousG...@gmail.com
I had read where you accused other people of being someone they were
not, so I guess this is par for the course and means I'm "accepted". I
think it is a shame I ask some questions about Oswald and you have me
as someone else, I guess maybe I should start looking at the other
side more seriously.
tomnln
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
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tomnln
"bigdog" <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tomorrow, Lapdog will give us the weather report.
Anything except evidence/testimony.
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
tomnln
<justm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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LN's Lose every time they Dodge their own official records>>>
justm...@gmail.com
> <justme1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
an idiot, always an idiot.
For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
appears.
CuriousG...@gmail.com
wrote:
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
> change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> appears.
>
You may believe whatever you wish, I don't see why this other fellow
would not post on his own. I guess you don't think computers can make
a mistake. I didn't realize people were investigating each other here
like that, but so be it. You may think whatever you want, but I am
not sure of what happened, but your "suspicious" mind makes me wonder
what you have to hide.
justm...@gmail.com
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
> > change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> > innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> > did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> > the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> > posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> > robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> > an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> > For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> > Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> > appears.
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/threa..
>
> You may believe whatever you wish, I don't see why this other fellow
> would not post on his own. I guess you don't think computers can make
> a mistake. I didn't realize people were investigating each other here
> like that, but so be it. You may think whatever you want, but I am
> not sure of what happened, but your "suspicious" mind makes me wonder
>
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The suspicious minds lie in the CT community. Enough time was wasted
when you posted as Robcap, you couldn't get anywhere so you decide to
try another name. Computers do NOT make mistakes, it's the operators
of the computers that make them. Are you trying to say that your
computer logged into google with someone elses name, profile and email
and ip address? ROFLMAO....lets see what excuse you come up with next.
2 down George/robcrap....3 strikes your out!
bigdog
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
> > change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> > innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> > did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> > the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> > posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> > robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> > an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> > For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> > Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> > appears.
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/threa..
>
> You may believe whatever you wish, I don't see why this other fellow
> would not post on his own. I guess you don't think computers can make
> a mistake. I didn't realize people were investigating each other here
> like that, but so be it. You may think whatever you want, but I am
> not sure of what happened, but your "suspicious" mind makes me wonder
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry, Chico, you're busted. justme nailed you. Your denials sound as
convincing as Oswald when he said "No sir, I didn't shoot anyone". You
screwed the pooch and got caught. And no, computers don't make
mistakes. The people programming and operating them do but the
computer does exactly what it's told to do. Every time. Take that from
someone who programmed them for 25 years. Computer error is a cop out
usually used by programmers who failed to properly test their programs
before putting them into production. Sometimes it would work when we
fed that line to people who didn't know any better. We knew better
than to ever try to use that line on a supervisor who knew better. He
was already pissed off because he was going to get his ass reamed for
one of our mistakes.
aeffects
we know you Lone Nut douche-bags create aliases that appear to be CT's
then congratulate each other when YOU think you've found something --
you pithy little children in a pud pulling contest..... so just have
justme1952 continue munching and mowing her lawns, spend her/him/it's
time doing what her/him/it does best pondering a fucked up libido....
Happy Thanksgiving btw.... and *SCAB* we expect you here at 7AM sharp
tomorrow....
Gil Jesus
CuriousG...@gmail.com
I doubt this "Robcap" would give up as you say, but again you are free
to believe whatever you wish. I wish you would spend as much time
answering the questions I posted. My wife (she does believe in a
cospiracy) said people who didn't were tough to talk with, I'm trying
to be open-minded, but you make it tough. I'm asking basic questions
and not accusing anyone of anything, yet you seem unwilling to help me
out. I'm not saying anything along the lines of the computer, I just
know from experience computers are not infallible, and with all the
people on here they may have made a link that didn't belong. Who
knows, who cares? I will just assume you don't want to answer my
questions and move on. I have alot to learn and don't want to waste
time.
aeffects
> still don't know an ISP from an IP address, huh I.T. EXPERT ?
*it* doesn't know shit about IP/ISP addresses.....
justm...@gmail.com
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Put your money where your mouth is Healy...show me proof of one single
LN who has posted as a CT and congratulated themselves on their
discovery. You'll die trying. No LN is going to pose as a CT. That
would be like taking 50 steps backwards, no thanks. You're a pro at
shooting your mouth off Healy and never saying anything but rubbish.
Prove to this newsgroup you're right for a change...c'mon toots grid
those loins and show us your stuff! ROFLMAO...what a joke you are.
BTW, when was the last time you posted anything about the
assassination other then being a PR (public retard) for Holmes 45
questions??
bigdog
> still don't know an ISP from an IP address, huh I.T. EXPERT ?
Gee, I wonder why Chico is coming to the defense of Curious George.
Could it be that.....NNNAAAAHHHH!!!.
By the way Chico, did you have to steal the name of my favorite
character from my earliest childhood.
justm...@gmail.com
If your wife is the expert on JFK why don't you learn from her? That
was strike 3...you're out Georgie.
I wonder how quick Chico has learned to switch between 3 names now so
he can talk to himself LOL.
I know the difference Chico, thats why you have gotten nailed..idiot
aeffects
"the name of my favorite character from my earliest childhood"...
SCAB? You are a lone Nut goof ball, aren't you?
Gil Jesus
Dave, AGREED.
Everytime this mental midget sees that someone has posted through the
same AOL ISP as me she goes into her "sky-is-falling" mode.
Funny, but during a period where Rob Caprio and I were posting through
DIFFERENT AOL ISP's, she never said a word to point THAT out.
She's a sicko fer sure.
aeffects
agreed, have a nice Thanksgiving Gil.....
CuriousG...@gmail.com
Because she believes various parts of our government were involved and
I chose to believe what they had told me was correct for the most
part. I was trying to confirm my beliefs, but I must say your response
to my basic questions make me wonder if she is as off base as I always
said she was. You have obviously used this tactic before and it is
not a good way to get your point of view across if you ask me (I know
you aren't). You have just alienated me. If you believe in the truth
there is no reason to accuse others when all you have to do is answer
the questions they ask truthfully.
justm...@gmail.com
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Look at the header record Chico...his email address is listed right
next to george you moron! Stop trying to defend yourself
Chico....you're pathetic! You, Healy and Georgie can go back and
forth all you want in denial....the rest of this newsgroup sees what's
posted and knows you're a pathalogical liar. Just click on the profile
in the original post....moron. If anyone around here is a mental
midget its you...too stupid to learn your lesson after 6 or 7 times of
trying to pull the same crap. Now suffer the humiliation.
George? Stop your whining.
robcap...@netscape.com
"JustmeStupid" is up to her/his/it's old tricks I see. I was going to
take the holiday week off, but I couldn't resist this one. I guess
anyone who dares to asks questions about LHO that doesn't state
emphatically that he shot JFK and JDT, then this useless piece of crap
won't answer their questions. What a loser!
justm...@gmail.com
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Weeeee the triple loser is here under all 3 names making comments, is
everyone impressed? You mean you were going to take the weekend off
from robcrap and post under george instead don't ya liar????
robcap...@netscape.com
You are so dumb you would have fit right on the WC like a glove. Your
investigation skills are about as good as theirs were too - like non-
existent! I am not Gil and to make us the same person insults the
great work Gil does. I have no website and I'm prone to making
mistakes because I'm too lazy to look things up all the time, Gil does
not suffer from this ailment. This new person is now supposed to be
Gil also, how much time do you think Gil has to devote to this board?
You are nuts!! But I already knew that and so does Gil.
justm...@gmail.com
>
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The more you keep trying to get out of your lie the deeper your
digging your hole. Look at the first post on this thread...solid proof
that YOU are Curious George. No if, ands or buts about it. Now go away
loser. You're making a bigger ass of yourself everytime you post.
YoHarvey
>
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Can always tell when Jesus/Robcap, JMoore, Justin, Justinsmom ...and
his newst pseudonum, curiousgeorge is CAUUGHT. He always "floods" the
NG with ALL of his names. Best part is....even though, like the JFK
case, he's caught with solid "physical evidence" he tries to CHANGE
THE FACTS. This fucking loser is INSANE. He's looney! He's as
stupid as Healy and a larger moron than Rossley who buy off on this
shit. Quite simply pleople, he's trying to BUY your credibility.
When will you realize this is NOT about LN's or CT's. This is quite
simply about THE SINGLE BIGGEST LOSER IN JFK RESEARCH. And you wonder
why he doesn't allow opposing points of view on his videos? His sick
deranged, personality would result in mass murder.
robcap...@netscape.com
You are citing a post today, the person made posts earlier than that.
Get over it and start answering their questions, oh wait, that's right
you can't!!!!!!! You don't know the first thing about LHO yet you are
so sure of his guilt. Amazing. In the spirit of the holiday start
learning your own theory.
robcap...@netscape.com
Only a paranoid idiot like you would think one person is making up
aliases to debate test tube stuhl samples like you!! You can't even
state your theory in a coherent fashion, like I or Gil are going to
hide behind an alias? Only you loser LNers do that with YoHarvey,
Bigdog and JustmeStupid. Why don't you tell us your names so we can
see what nutty bin you are residing in? It is the holiday season
maybe we'll chip in (the CTers) and send you guys some fruitcakes!!!
justm...@gmail.com
>
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Roflmao...and your real name is Curious George? Give it up robcrap/
chico/george, you can whine all you want too it's not going to do any
good. Furthermore, I highly doubt anyone will bother discussing this
case with you anymore now that they know what a deceitful liar you
are. Well your alter egos will discuss it with you...just think,
you'll never be wrong! ROFLMAO
YoHarvey
>
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.....As Ronald Reagan said of Jimmy Carter during their debates: "and
there he goes again"!!! lol. Our resident SICKO fighting for his
life and credibility. Expect more of this. Old Chico nailed ONE MORE
TIME using ONE more pseudonym! I'm wondering which name his kids call
him by.......they surely wouldn't embarrass themselves by callhing him
"dad" roflmao.
robcap...@netscape.com
Of course it won't, your mind is so shut to anything I would need 10
tons of dynamite to open it. You are showing lurkers that you can't
even think in regards to something this easy, no wonder the JFK case
went over your head.
justm...@gmail.com
>
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Because Robcrap keeps trying to defend himself, let me add more proof
that he and Curious George are the same person:
This is from a post made in the thread Three Facts...not the email
address at the top of the header:
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From: Cap <CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: THREE FACTS THAT are known
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:16:18 -0800 (PST)
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Look at the post itself, the person who posted is posting under the
name CAP not Curious George, yet same email address (Cap for Caprio).
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/2be0ae105e5cb787#
Same thread one post down under Chico, is a posting from Curious
George, hit view profile and look what comes up:
robcap...@netscape.com
This person has not created a profile.
Name:
Location:
Title:
Industry:
Email address: robcap...@netscape.com
Website or Blog:
Quote:
Click on more options and look at the email addy:
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:05:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2007 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: THREE FACTS THAT are known
Anyone can do their own checking and find the same thing I have found.
Robcrap/CuriousGeorge are the same person. He has got to be the most
ignorant individual to ever join a forum. To sit and try to defend
himself with proof all over this board, is simply amazing. We also
have proof that robcrap/chico/curiousgeorge is the pathalogical liar
he has been accused of and a very mentally ill person.
YoHarvey
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> Look at the post itself, the person who posted is posting under the
>
> Same thread one post down under Chico, is a posting from Curious
> George, hit view profile and look what comes up:
> robcap...@netscape.com
> This person has not created a profile.
> Name:
> Location:
> Title:
> Industry:
> Email address: robcap...@netscape.com
> Website or Blog:
> Quote:
>
> Click on more options and look at the email addy:
>
> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
> From: "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:05:01 -0800 (PST)
> Local: Tues, Nov 20 2007 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: THREE FACTS THAT are known
>
> Anyone can do their own checking and find the same thing I have found.
> Robcrap/CuriousGeorge are the same person. He has got to be the most
> ignorant individual to ever join a forum. To sit and try to defend
> himself with proof all over this board, is simply amazing. We also
> have proof that robcrap/chico/curiousgeorge is the pathalogical liar
>
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Gee. Sure looks to me that our resident LOONEY has been NAILED ONCE
AGAIN. Congrats Jesus/Robcap. You are certifiably the SICKEST FUCK
ON THIS NEWSGROUP. Le't's donate a dime for Chico Jesus's rehab.
He's still fighting mental health.
justm...@gmail.com
>
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I'd rather spend the dime and buy my dog a bone. Anyone that far gone
is hopeless as far as getting help. He needs to be locked in a padded
cell and placed in a straight jacket. He's a threat to society.
Reminds of the the stereotype that would go postal at some point. The
moron doesn't know right from wrong, thats pretty damn obvious. I say
just donate Chico/robcrap/george to science. His mindset will fit in
with the likes of Bundy, Hannible, and Son of Sam.
LUNATICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robcap...@netscape.com
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>
> Look at the post itself, the person who posted is posting under the
>
> Same thread one post down under Chico, is a posting from Curious
> George, hit view profile and look what comes up:
> robcap...@netscape.com
> This person has not created a profile.
> Name:
> Location:
> Title:
> Industry:
> Email address: robcap...@netscape.com
> Website or Blog:
> Quote:
>
> Click on more options and look at the email addy:
>
> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
> From: "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:05:01 -0800 (PST)
> Local: Tues, Nov 20 2007 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: THREE FACTS THAT are known
>
> Anyone can do their own checking and find the same thing I have found.
> Robcrap/CuriousGeorge are the same person. He has got to be the most
> ignorant individual to ever join a forum. To sit and try to defend
> himself with proof all over this board, is simply amazing. We also
> have proof that robcrap/chico/curiousgeorge is the pathalogical liar
> he has been accused of and a very mentally ill person.
Who's defending himself? I said we are not the same person, I don't
care what you found. I don't need to hide behind an alias to talk
with you. Why didn't you answer the questions? You don't know
anything about this case and that is what is needed to be conveyed to
anyone looking to join this board. With you here is a real joke for
you to claim I am "the most ignorant individual to ever join a forum",
because you will always have that title. Do you join other boards and
totally not discuss the subject matter there also?
Sam Brown
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> On Nov 21, 3:23 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> <justme1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >> ROFLMAO!!! Good catch justme,
>>
>> >> It was bad enough when Jesus/robocrap was carrying on conversations
>> >> with himself. Now he is arguing with himself. I wonder what else he
>> >> does with himself.
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > goof by trying to answer his stupid questions. He lost with his last
>> > approach, he must have thought playing the dummy would get him
>> > somewhere...it got him somewhere allright...HUMILIATED! ROFLMAO.
>>
>> LN's Lose every time they Dodge their own official records>>>
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> appears.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse
What a complete waste of skin these stumps are. Is anyone dumber than
Jesus/RoboKook/Curious?
robcap...@netscape.com
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
> > change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> > innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> > did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> > the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> > posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> > robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> > an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> > For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> > Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> > appears.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse
>
> What a complete waste of skin these stumps are. Is anyone dumber than
> Jesus/RoboKook/Curious?
Let me see....right off the top of my head I'd say Sammy (and I mean
it, babe) Brown, JustmeStupid, YoHarvey and Bigdog. How's that?
justm...@gmail.com
wrote:
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Sorry George, all it took was one screw-up by you where you forgot to
> > > change your profile when you logged into google. Don't try to play the
> > > innocent act, it isn't going to work. Just disappear like Robcrap
> > > did...before you appeared. The proof is right there for all to see in
> > > the original post. I've been watching your post since you started
> > > posting here, because the ip posting host was the same as Chicos and
> > > robcraps. I knew it wouldn't be long before you messed up again. Once
> > > an idiot, always an idiot.
>
> > > For anyone in doubt here is the link to George/robcraps first post.
> > > Just click on view profile on his post and good ole robcrap/jesus
> > > appears.
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse
>
> > What a complete waste of skin these stumps are. Is anyone dumber than
> > Jesus/RoboKook/Curious?
>
> Let me see....right off the top of my head I'd say Sammy (and I mean
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sam, they are the dumbest of dumb....aka Sybil
tomnln
<justm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:42529d74-3fda-4dc3...@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 21, 4:02 pm, "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com"
> <CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 21, 3:46 pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
>>
>> You may believe whatever you wish, I don't see why this other fellow
>> would not post on his own. I guess you don't think computers can make
>> a mistake. I didn't realize people were investigating each other here
>> like that, but so be it. You may think whatever you want, but I am
>> not sure of what happened, but your "suspicious" mind makes me wonder
>> what you have to hide.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> when you posted as Robcap, you couldn't get anywhere so you decide to
> try another name. Computers do NOT make mistakes, it's the operators
> of the computers that make them. Are you trying to say that your
> computer logged into google with someone elses name, profile and email
> and ip address? ROFLMAO....lets see what excuse you come up with next.
> 2 down George/robcrap....3 strikes your out!
Hey justme;
Are you here to trade insults or, address evidence/testimony?
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
YoHarvey
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let's trade insults....it's so easy.....I'll start. "Hey Rossley"?
"Your wife Ellen has the whitest teeth I've ever cum accross"!! Ok,
your turn Rossley...give us one more of your brillant 2nd grade
retorts!!! We await.
justm...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't believe anyone was talking to you Rossley, let the little boys
defend themselves. You go on back to copying and pasting your boring,
dead website and boring, lack of creative thought insults to someone
else.
tomnln
<CuriousG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed0630d4-304b-4d14...@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Hahahahahaha
CuriousGeorge thought he would get justme to address actual
evidence/testimony????
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
NOT a Chance.
tomnln
"YoHarvey" <bail...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:94de5990-fd68-4bfd...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
You sure do NOT "flood the internet" with evidence/testimony;
Care to address these?>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
Gil Jesus
>
> You sure do NOT "flood the internet" with evidence/testimony;
>
> Care to address these?>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
Paranoia runs deep in the LN camp I see.
Does that make them kooks also ?
I notice that the trolls only attack those they fear.
Sam Brown
The sick bastard is too far gone for rehab, I think the kindest thing to do
would be to have him euthanized. I hate seeing poor dumb animals suffer.
Gil Jesus
I'm their worst nightmare. Justme is checking the ISP of every new
poster and if that posting comes through the same ISP as one of mine,
she's accusing them of being me.
This woman is DAFT.
She's seeing me EVERYWHERE.
I'm in their heads........and I'm ROFLMAO.
And it keeps her distracted from addressing evidence & testimony.
Lurkers: see why I have the trolls all screwed up:
Gil Jesus
Now let's see who owns NNTP Posting Host 64.12.116.136:
http://samspade.org/whois/64.12.116.136
Case closed.
Gil Jesus
Now let's see who own NNTP Posting Host 64.12.116.136:
is it Gil Jesus ?
Robcap ?
Curious George ?
All three ?
http://samspade.org/whois/64.12.116.136
Case closed.
justm...@gmail.com
The day I would be afraid of you it would be a cold day in Hell, you
pathetic piece of feces. We've been thru this whole posting host bs
before. You keep trying to save yourself Chico, it's not going to
work. The examples I left had nothing to do with the posting host and
everything to do with the profile that comes up under CuriousGeorges
name, not to mention the email address where you messed up just as you
did trying to use Justins name.
You go right ahead and plead your innocence to Rossley, like he is
your God. He's all you have besides Healy, that are going to believe
you because they are too stupid and ignorant to see the truth. Typical
evaluation of a CT. You have been exposed for the lying, dishonest
piece of crap you are. Your credibility is gone (except for your ass
kisser friends who had no credibility themselves to begin with).
For any lurkers reading this site, who aren't Gil Jesus/Robcrap/
CuriousGeorge...take note of what this man is all about. Using the
word man to describe him is a term he doesn't deserve. He is a bigot,
he hates homosexuals as human beings, he's a hypocrite, and he lies to
save himself every chance he gets. Most of his videos he brags about
on youtube, are scarfed off the internet...then he takes ownership of
them and pats himself on the back. He blocks all comments from his
youtube site because the negative remarks were over powering the
positive ones. Then he lies saying the reason he has stopped the
comments section is because of spam. Spam postings could very easily
be deleted, the way he deleted all the comments that insulted his
ideas and videos.
Gil Jesus is a loser of the highest power. A failure in life, and a
failure in the JFK research community.
He was banned from his news server for being deceitful and posting
vulgarity under the name of an 11 yr old child named Justin. Need
proof? Just google the posts and see for yourself how he has already
been exposed as scum. Gil Jesus/Robcap/CuriousGeorge can whine and cry
pleading their innocence till hell freezes over...but the proof is
here in writing and nothing they say or do is going to change it. To
give an example of this scenario and this bigot still posting here, is
like having a sex offender living in your neighborhood. You must watch
their every move because they can't be trusted. Once an offender,
always an offender. (Now lets sit back and wait for Rossley and Healy
to start their 3rd grade insults to protect their here Jesus, with the
use of vulgarity which is all they know)
Any questions?
muc...@gmail.com
wrote:
The case is clear: Robcap and CuriousGeorge are the same poster. Why
is Gil so upset about that? Why does he try to muddy the waters?
-Mark
justm...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
A better question would be why is Gil Jesus trying to defend robcrap/
george? Take note Mark that the minute I exposed Robcrap for trying to
pretend he was someone else, within a matter of minutes Chico posted
on his defense. What's that tell ya? Chico had no other posts
yesterday till that one showed up. Sybil was caught again....how sad
that he didn't learn his lesson the other numerous times he was
nailed.
muc...@gmail.com
Normally, I don't consider myself a conspiracy oriented kind of guy,
but things like this make me wonder...
hotrod3...@aol.com
maybe you otta go with your gut feelings :
Read who is 64.12.116.136
is it Gil jesus ?
robcap ?
Curious George ?
all three ?
or someone else ?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4f440f667c704bc4
muc...@gmail.com
All three of you are AOL users, yes, but Robcap and CuriousGeorge also
shared the same Google account (until Justme pointed it out). How do
you explain that?
hotrod3...@aol.com
mail account.
And where's the proof that Robcap, Curious George and Gil Jesus are
the same person ?
Because they all use AOL ?
I think AOL has more than one customer.
In fact, David Von Pein posts through AOL. Is he Gil Jesus too ? Or
Robcap ? Or Curious George ?
And don't you find it strange that someone would be screening all new
posters for their HOST address ? Isn't that bizarre ? Do you do that
too ?
I know I don't.
hotrod3...@aol.com
New posters come in here from AOL and they're subjected to a barrage
of "you're Gil Jesus" when in fact they are not. This is not normal
behavior. It's also not normal for someone to screen the NNTP HOST
addresses of posters.
I know of no one who does that but justme.
Innocent people are coming in here with an interest in the subject
matter and are being beaten over the head for some childish reason and
the only offense they've committed was to enter this newsgroup.
SOMEBODY'S got to speak out against this insanity.
robcap...@netscape.com
True dat, Gil. They had a person who was innocent and asked for help
and what does JustmeStupid do? She/he/it chases them away when that
person could have become an LNer! Just shows who the real kook is.
robcap...@netscape.com
> Tom,
>
> I'm their worst nightmare. Justme is checking the ISP of every new
> poster and if that posting comes through the same ISP as one of mine,
> she's accusing them of being me.
>
> This woman is DAFT.
>
> She's seeing me EVERYWHERE.
Especially in her/his/its dreams. It can't stop thinking about you
Gil so it sees you everywhere on this board.
robcap...@netscape.com
Much adieu about nothing, you are not concerned with the fact that
none of your brethren could answer 4 basic questions CuriousGeorge
posted, how come? Don't know shit about LHO is why. All this
speculation instead of addressing good questions and evidence. You
guys are sad.
robcap...@netscape.com
Thanks hotrod, let's just say everyone is Gil and let's move on to the
evidence of the case, shall we?
robcap...@netscape.com
You are so right, they can't answer any questions or discuss this case
so JustmeDumbass has to try and scare people off. She/he/it is a sad
case. Thanks for your common sense, but watch out, as she/he/it will
accuse you of being Gil soon.
YoHarvey
wrote:
True dat, Gil. They had a person who was innocent and asked for help
and what does JustmeStupid do? She/he/it chases them away when that
person could have become an LNer! Just shows who the real kook is.
He's TALKING WITH HIMSELF AGAIN ROFLMAO.
justm...@gmail.com
Robcrap? If it hasn't occured to you yet, after being exposed as a
liar no one here is going to discuss the time of day with you anymore
except the few morons who support dishonesty such as Healy, Rossley
and Holmes. Why don't you bring in Curious George and lets hear what
he has to say ROFLMAO.
In this case the ip addresses were just the trigger....Chico says
there are alot of ppl that post from AOL, why is it that NONE of these
other people EVER have had the same ip host address assigned to them
Chico like you and robcrap have???? Moron is giving you too
intelligent of a title.
HTTP posting host from robcrap:
Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!
w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: CURIOUS GEORGE IS NONE OTHER THEN ROBCRAP/JESUS
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:10:18 -0800 (PST)
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tb12.proxy.aol.com[CDBC702C] (Prism/
1.2.1),
HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ac07.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7488] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5
[uScM])
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/765a84644aa0db93?dmode=source
HTTP posting host from CuriousGeorge:
Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!
f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com" <CuriousGeorge1...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: CURIOUS GEORGE IS NONE OTHER THEN ROBCRAP/JESUS
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:24:11 -0800 (PST)
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tb02.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7022] (Prism/
1.2.1),
HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ac07.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7488] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5
[uScM])
Notice the user agent is identical in both posts...this is the link to
YOUR computer. Chicos user agent info is slightly different, but the
important information which links all three of you is the same.
Therefore, after checking with a more knowledgable source, it is 95%
accurate to state that Chico also has a second computer which is
running windows 98 in his home.
Hotrods (Chicos) user agent:
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows
NT
5.1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/1.3.32 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/
1.1
spider-dtc-tc03.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7043] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1
cache-dtc-ac12.proxy.aol.com[CDBC748D] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])
Gil Jesus user agent:
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows
NT
5.1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/1.3.32 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/
1.1
spider-dtc-tc03.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7043] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1
cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com[CDBC74C3] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])
Get the drift Chico? Busted again, how many times are you going to
make an ass out of yourself?
You've reached your limit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hotrod3...@aol.com
Not opinion
no conjecture
PROOF
aeffects
they're trying out for summer replacement moderators at .johns :)
Should have this all wrapped up in another 12-18 months... KUTGW, with
the YouTube project winds these fools up tighter than Justme1952s'
live-in partner...
aeffects
> "YoHarvey" <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
someone throw the Lone Neuter slime-ball a noodle, perhaps she can
dance on the head of it.....
robc...@netscape.com
I wish you would just answer my questions and help me understand why
Oswald would commit this crime, otherwise, I'll start listening to my
wife and look for more. It is a shame all of this has occured.
>
> HTTP posting host from robcrap:
>
> Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!
> w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
> Subject: Re: CURIOUS GEORGE IS NONE OTHER THEN ROBCRAP/JESUS
> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:10:18 -0800 (PST)
>
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
> 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 spider-dtc-tb12.proxy.aol.com[CDBC702C] (Prism/
> 1.2.1),
> HTTP/1.1 cache-dtc-ac07.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7488] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5
> [uScM])http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/765a84644aa0db9...
> You've reached your limit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- Hide quoted text -
aeffects
> I'm not muddying the waters.
>
> New posters come in here from AOL and they're subjected to a barrage
> of "you're Gil Jesus" when in fact they are not. This is not normal
> behavior.
their behavior displays the actions of desperate Lone Nutters, whom
need any, ANY fellow WCR suppoorter to prop them up. On the other hand
they might need another grade point higher on their semester
final[s].... I suspect its a toss up!
justm...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
What's a shame George is that you have the nerve to even post here
again after being exposed as Robcrap. Do you really think this "Oh
poor innocent me" routine is gonna work? Think again liar. That's a
real good idea, go find your info from your wife ROFLMAO....does Chico
wear a nice teddy and do his hair for you before bedtime George???
YoHarvey
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
11 June 2007
A Word About Lee Harvey Oswald
Editor's Note: November is indelibly associated with the assassination
of President Kennedy, and the fall is normally the period when major
new books and articles are timed to appear. Because May marked what
would have been John F. Kennedy's 90th birthday, however, several
notable new books appeared last month, including Vincent Bugliosi's
Reclaiming History, David Talbot's Brothers, Burton Hersh's Bobby and
J. Edgar, and James Piereson's Camelot and the Cultural Revolution.
(Reclaiming History has already been reviewed for The Wall Street
Journal and this website, and Brothers will be reviewed here in
July).
Despite the unanticipated burst of attention, one aspect of November
22nd remains glossed over: the motivation that drove Lee Harvey Oswald
to commit political murder. Washington DeCoded is pleased to publish a
new essay by the journalist and author who knew Oswald best, and wrote
one of the lamentably few reliable books about the assassin of
President Kennedy.
By Priscilla J. McMillan
After decades of speculation about a grassy knoll, the Zapruder
film, and an acoustical tape, the man behind it all is too often
overlooked. Lee Oswald was not a cardboard figure but a human being,
and although he had barely turned twenty-four at the time he killed
President Kennedy, he had a motive.
Oswald was a believing Marxist, and his motive was to strike the
deadliest blow he could imagine at capitalism in the United States.
Oswald had been headed that way most of his sentient life. He had, by
his account, become seriously interested in politics at fifteen or
sixteen, when someone on a street corner in the Bronx handed him a
leaflet about Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who had been executed two
years earlier as spies for the Soviet Union. At eighteen, huddled in
his Marine Corps barracks in Japan, he studied Russian from a Berlitz
phrase book. And at nineteen, he wangled a hardship discharge from the
Marines and made the arduous journey by steamship and train to the
USSR.
Arriving there as a tourist, he immediately proclaimed - to
Russian authorities and officials of the U.S. embassy in Moscow - that
he intended to relinquish his U.S. citizenship and become a citizen of
the USSR. It was at that moment in his life, November, 1959, that I
happened to meet and talk with him.
I was a reporter for the North American Newspaper Alliance in
search of a human interest story and he had just marked his twentieth
birthday. I had no way of knowing that this boy - dressed in a dark
gray suit, white shirt, and dark red tie--he looked like an American
college student--had, two weeks earlier, slashed his wrists in his
hotel bathtub in a gesture of desperation after being informed by
Soviet officials that he could not remain in the Soviet Union.
Throughout our conversation, which took place over several hours in my
room at the Metropole Hotel, I asked Oswald why he was defecting to
the USSR, while he tried to engage me in a discussion of Marxist
economics.
When I asked what would become of him if he returned to the
United States, he replied that his lot would be that of "workers
everywhere." He would be ground down by capitalism as his mother, a
practical nurse, had been. He spoke bitterly of racial discrimination
in the United States, but did not disclose that as a schoolboy he had
taken action against it by riding in the black section of the
segregated buses of New Orleans.
While I realized that Oswald was angry at the country he was
hoping to leave behind, I also sensed that his desire to live in the
Soviet Union had something theoretical about it. He had traveled
thousands of miles to get there, but had ventured no more than two
blocks on his own and preferred to sit by himself in his hotel room
rather than go sight-seeing in Moscow. So far as I could see, his
enthusiasm for the Soviet Union was based on neither knowledge of, or
curiosity about, everyday life there.
The Russians refused Oswald's plea for citizenship but allowed him
to remain in their country. He, whether from anger at the way he
claimed to have been treated by U.S. consul Richard E. Snyder, or from
desire to leave himself an "out," refused to return to the American
embassy to reclaim the passport he had left behind.
In early 1960, a couple of months after I met him, Oswald was sent
to the provincial city of Minsk and given a job at the Minsk Radio
Plant. There he distinguished himself as a below-average worker, but
embarked on an eight-month romance with a woman named Ella German of
which he seemed to be proud. But Ella jilted him, and Oswald, to spite
her, married nineteen-year-old pharmacist Marina Prusakova. Her
friends and his co-workers quickly taught him the daily realities of
Soviet life.
His disenchantment with the poverty, lack of amusement, and
ubiquitous spying can be found in what he called his "Historic Diary"
and in "The Collective," an essay he started to write in the USSR.
After less than two years in Minsk, Oswald opened a correspondence
with the once-hated U.S. consul, Richard E. Snyder, in Moscow, seeking
to return to the United States. Snyder's superiors in Washington
determined that, having left his passport at the embassy that angry
autumn of 1959, Oswald had retained his citizenship.
In June, 1962, he was allowed to return to America, bringing
Marina and their three month-old daughter, June. That summer and fall,
and throughout the following winter, he held a series of menial,
disheartening jobs, first repairing houses in Fort Worth, then as
apprentice at a printing plant in Dallas. Oswald's criticisms of the
society around him returned with a vengeance, and his reading of two
left-wing publications, The Worker, mouthpiece of the U.S. Communist
Party, and The Militant, newspaper of the Socialist Workers Party,
helped focus his discontent. Oswald said of The Militant that "you can
see what they want you to do by reading between the lines."
That winter the two newspapers were filled with diatribes against
the far-right John Birch Society and a like-minded figure, Major
General Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army), who happened to live in
Dallas. Although Oswald was barely able to feed his family, he
nonetheless ordered two guns by mail, a revolver and a $19.95
Mannlicher-Carcano rifle with a scope. On a Sunday afternoon in late
March, 1963, he had Marina photograph him in their Dallas backyard
holding both guns and copies of The Militant and The Worker. Ten days
later, on April 10, 1963, Oswald fired a shot at General Walker that
missed Walker's head by only an inch or two. And a few days after
that, Oswald, his pistol strapped at his waist, told Marina that he
was going to "have a look" at former Vice-President Richard Nixon, who
he said was in Dallas that day. Marina managed to keep him at home,
and when Oswald subsequently announced that he meant to leave Dallas
and seek a job in New Orleans, she was relieved, thinking that he
might get over his obsession with politics there.
She was wrong. Within days of his arrival in New Orleans, Oswald
was standing on the docks, handing out "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets.
New Orleans, despite what Marina hoped would be the restraining
influence of his cousins and aunt, proved to be no more salutary than
Dallas. Oswald read books about Mao Tse-tung, John F. Kennedy, and
Fidel Castro that he found in the public library, and spent the long
summer evenings sighting his rifle on the porch, and working the bolt
action. He explained to Marina that he wanted to go to Cuba to teach
Fidel's army how to repel an American invasion. And he sketched out
his newest scheme. He would hijack an airplane headed to Florida and
redirect it to Cuba. While he was in the cockpit, she was to stand at
the rear, holding June with one hand and pointing Lee's pistol at the
passengers with the other, and together they would join Fidel.
Marina was alarmed by this latest "crazy" scheme, but succeeded in
laughing Lee out of it. Go to Cuba if you must, she said, but do it a
legal way. And so, in late September, 1963, he boarded a bus to
Mexico City, where he attempted to secure entry visas for Cuba and the
USSR. After failing on both counts he returned, crestfallen, to
Dallas, where Marina -was expecting their second child, having been
taken in by a generous couple, Ruth and Michael Paine.
Oswald's intentions were now a jumble: that fall he wrote to the
Soviet embassy in Washington, requesting visas for Marina and June to
enter the USSR. As Marina was to analyze it later, he meant to stash
his family in Russia and then travel by himself to China, to see
whether Communism there was less bureaucratic and closer to the ideal
than the Cuban or Soviet varieties. But things worked out differently.
Oswald found a job at the Texas School Book Depository and lived
by himself in Dallas while Marina and the children - (their second
daughter, Rachel, was born in October) lived with the Paines in the
nearby suburb of Irving. On weekends Oswald would come to visit.
A new political vista opened for Oswald on Tuesday, November 19.
That day he spotted a story in either the Dallas Morning News or Times
Herald that described the parade route of President Kennedy's upcoming
visit to Dallas. The presidential motorcade would be passing directly
by the windows of the Texas School Book Depository. The precise moment
when Oswald made up his mind is not known, and never will be, but the
first external manifestation of what he was thinking occurred on
Thursday morning, when he asked a co-worker, Buell Wesley Frazier, for
a ride home after work. Frazier was accustomed to giving Oswald a ride
to Irving on Fridays, but thought nothing of this change in plans.
On departing for work Friday morning, Oswald left behind his
wedding ring and nearly all the money he had. He brought to work the
rifle he had originally purchased for the purpose of killing General
Walker, but unlike the previous April, this time he did not miss his
intended target. At almost exactly 12:30 CST, he fired three shots and
assassinated the embodiment of the American polity he despised.
Everything in Oswald's life proclaims that this was a man prepared
to take dangerous and dramatic action for the sake of his political
beliefs. Joining with others in street demonstrations or precinct work
were not for him. He wanted no part of the "system." To the contrary,
he wanted to bring it down. He considered himself a "Marxist" or a
"Socialist." He was attracted to socialism in Cuba and the USSR, but
repelled by the bureaucratic reality. And despite his disappointments
with both, by the autumn of 1963 he was still hoping to find the
Socialist paradise in China.
The possibility that Oswald's political convictions may have
played a decisive part in his shooting John Kennedy was downplayed in
the early sixties because President Johnson and other officials did
not want the assassination to become a casus belli with the Soviet
Union. And to the public, this explanation, at a moment when
capitalism was riding high, appeared ludicrous. Besides, for a
Marxist, killing this president appeared wildly inconsistent. Kennedy
was a liberal. Shooting at him, unlike the attempt on General Walker,
appeared to conflict with Oswald's beliefs about racial discrimination
and better relations with the USSR.
But to Oswald the believing Marxist, it did not matter much
whether the president was liberal or conservative. What mattered was
that he was leader of the greatest capitalist nation on earth. Oswald
wanted to decapitate capitalism as he, almost literally, decapitated
the president of the United States. Seen in this light, an observation
by Marina, the person closest to him at this period of his life, makes
perfect sense. Had her husband survived to be tried for the
president's murder, Marina believed, not only would he have confessed--
he would have boasted about what he had done and proclaimed that it
was all for the Socialist cause.
Oswald did not succeed, of course, in bringing down American
capitalism, any more than Timothy McVeigh succeeded in sparking a
national uprising when he bombed the federal building in Oklahoma
City. But Oswald's act of violence indisputably ushered in an era of
unease and suspicion in American life that was not there prior to the
Kennedy assassination.
Oswald was not responsible for all of the damage that has befallen
American society since 1963, much as he would have wished to be. Some
of that damage is the result of events related only tangentially to
the assassination of President Kennedy. But some of the injury can,
with justice, be attributed to conspiracy theorists who have gone to
superhuman lengths to avoid facing the truth.
They have constructed wildly-implausible scenarios, far-out,
fictitious "conspirators," and have scandalously maligned the motives
of Kennedy's successor, rather than take a hard look at the man who
actually did it. They have, ironically, done more to poison American
political life than Lee Oswald--with the most terrible of intentions--
was able to do.
(c) 2007 by Priscilla J. McMillan
Priscilla J. McMillan is the author of Marina and Lee (Harper & Row,
1977), and more recently, The Ruin of J. Robert Oppenheimer and the
Birth of the Modern Arms Race (Viking,
2005).
Gil Jesus
Not opinion
not conjecture
PROOF
Gil Jesus
Not opinion
Not conjecture
Not circumstance
PROOF
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