What happens if you eat too much? VAT happens.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

GysdeJongh wrote:
> Free review :
>
> <http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/pdf/1743-7075-8-74.pdf>
>
> Nutr Metab (Lond). 2011 Oct 26;8(1):74.
> Utilization of dietary glucose in the metabolic syndrome.
> Abstract
> ABSTRACT: This review is focused on the fate of dietary glucose under
> conditions of chronically high energy (largely fat) intake, evolving into
> the metabolic syndrome. We are adapted to carbohydrate-rich diets similar to
> those of our ancestors. Glucose is the main energy staple, but fats are our
> main energy reserves. Starvation drastically reduces glucose availability,
> forcing the body to shift to fatty acids as main energy substrate, sparing
> glucose and amino acids. We are not prepared for excess dietary energy, our
> main defenses being decreased food intake and increased energy expenditure,
> largely enhanced metabolic activity and thermogenesis. High lipid
> availability is a powerful factor decreasing glucose and amino acid
> oxidation. Present-day diets are often hyperenergetic, high on lipids, with
> abundant protein and limited amounts of starchy carbohydrates. Dietary
> lipids favor their metabolic processing, saving glucose, which additionally
> spares amino acids. The glucose excess elicits hyperinsulinemia, which may
> derive, in the end, into insulin resistance. The available systems of energy
> disposal could not cope with the excess of substrates, since they are geared
> for saving not for spendthrift, which results in an unbearable overload of
> the storage mechanisms. Adipose tissue is the last energy sink, it has to
> store the energy that cannot be used otherwise. However, adipose tissue
> growth also has limits, and the excess of energy induces inflammation,
> helped by the ineffective intervention of the immune system. However, even
> under this acute situation, the excess of glucose remains, favoring its
> final conversion to fat. The sum of inflammatory signals and deranged
> substrate handling induce most of the metabolic syndrome traits: insulin
> resistance, obesity, diabetes, liver steatosis, hyperlipidemia and their
> compounded combined effects. Thus, a maintained excess of energy in the diet
> may result in difficulties in the disposal of glucose, eliciting
> inflammation and the development of the metabolic syndrome.
> PMID: 22029632

The absolutely only healthy way to lose the VAT is to http://WDJW.net/Guard
(Proverbs 4:23) the heart by holding to the right amount (32 oz) of
daily food thereby stopping the overeating.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod
Eastman are doing is much more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

[ken]

-

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends like Rod Eastman
( http://WDJW.net ) to also pray for Ken simply because we really love
him as our LORD commands (John 15:12) with all glory to GOD the
Father.

Loirbaj wrote:
>
> I noticed that one of the resident Gay Bashing
> crazoid trolls from our Group, Kenneth Kellogg,
> is apparently terrorizing your groups, as well.
> Google: kook files Kenneth Kellogg to see the
> bizarre pix of this very old, very brain damaged
> Net Stalker. And look at his extensive Kook
> files. Why he is not, now, in jail in California
> for Gay Bashing, Hate Speech in violation of
> California Code, I have no idea. One of his
> numerous nyms appears to be HCM. I am a
> poster at the group Alt dot Talk dot Creationism.
> The sadsack old kook Kenneth Kellogg lurks
> the wide web 'identifying FAGGOTS and QUEERS
> as he calls them, then illegally stalking them.

May GOD have mercy on Ken's perishing soul, in the name of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth.

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/73b8a32af3d5005e?

Millie wrote:
> Ken (aka "retarded popstar" ) wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> >
> > I'm Bat Shit KrAZy and I approve this message
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Yeah..
> We know, so why not get some professional help

Ken is beyond professional help in his unbelief.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1fc2ffe92fd945c5?

Ken really wrote earlier in part:

> Imma Insane

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/88e8e69d05552aa0?

Yes you are insane, Ken.

Additional readings:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0893193e0a71cf2b?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9cc5dcc21ab00945?

Ken also wrote earlier in part:
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
> Albert Einstein ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?

Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.

For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.

Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is simply reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a
new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

[Malachi]

What happens when you eat too little? You become an insane reprobate,
like Andrew B. Chung :-)

Self-accursed lying "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" deliriously wrote:
> > > Laus Deo for His continuing to curse you.
>
> > A lie and blasphemy.
>
> Neither.
>
> Praising GOD is neither a lie nor blasphemy.

The Lie:
God is not cursing anyone based upon Andrew B. Chung's personal grudge
against them.

The Blasphemy:
Andrew B. Chung misrepresenting God as being Andrew B. Chung's
personal henchman, who supposedly operates according to Andrew B.
Chung's malicious will.

> May GOD ever increase His curse upon you and all who know you.

A true disciple of Christ doesn't desire such things, even for their
enemies.

Chung must be praying to Satan.

Poor Andrew B. Chung has brought so much misery upon himself, and he's
only making it worse.

Indeed, this is what a self-accursed life looks like:

Andrew B. Chung was fired from his one and only verifiable job as a
physician.

> As were Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego (Daniel 3:26 :-)

Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego were not physicians, Ocala, FL is not
Babylon, Frank Hildner, MD is not the King of Babylon. In fact,
there's no comparison whatsoever.
Truth is simple reality :-)

Andrew B. Chung was kicked out of the only church it's been verified
he's ever attended.

> As were John and Peter according to what is written in the Bible (Acts
> 4:21 :-)

The condemned demolished Jewish Temple and its Pharisees was not the
Church built by Christ (Matthew 16:18) and the Body of Christ
fellowshipping in it, who expelled Andrew B. Chung as false disciple
who was sowing discord, as the Bible commanded them.
Truth is simple reality :-)

According to the Google groups archives, his wife left him.

> This physician's wife remains with him as evident by the gold wedding
> band on his left ring finger:

A leftover ring from a failed marriage worn by someone who wants to
appear as still married in his exhibitionist videos, is not a wife.
Truth is simply reality :-)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

In his most recent video, he appears completely emaciated with swollen
belly (ascites), glazed eyes and waist long greasy hair. Andrew B.
Chung appears to be deteriorating into something reminiscent of Howard
Hughes' psychical condition towards the end of his life.

According to the information contained in his own blog, the diet he
invented in 1998 has gone absolutely nowhere since 2005 (the blog's
last update). And never really went anywhere before that. No outside
sources mention anything whatsoever about it (this excludes 2 or 3
acquaintances/sockpuppets, his own writings and his misinterpretations
of the Bible and how God operates).

Obsessively compulsively spams the verbatim loquacious convoluted
pseudo-christian pseudo-scientific
gobbledygook nonsense repetitiously at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 am daily.

Andrew B. Chung, alienated, ostracized and driven insane by pride and
malnutrition, reaping bad fruit of the cursed harvest he has sown.

Matthew 5:11 doesn't apply to false-christians like Andrew B. Chung,
but Matthew 13:36-43 and 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 sure does.

Hopefully Chung doesn't end up flushing his soul away the way he did
his MD/PhD.
There's still hope for his soul and his earthly future, if he'll stop
deluding himself.

[Rod]

On 10/30/2011 1:25 AM, Malachi wrote:
> What happens when you eat too little? You become an insane reprobate,
> like Andrew B. Chung :-)

So you prefer to be fat and ugly and live a very short life...we
understand...you're insane.

[ken]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

someone wrote:

> You know Dr. Chung, if you spent less time repeating yourself
> and more time advising people how to control hunger

That which is wonderful like hunger should not be controlled.

> and limit their caloric intake you'd be alot more productive.

The fact that calories are not measured in food that is actually eaten
means counting calories have infinitely less utility than counting
ounces.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

[ken]

What happens when you eat too much?
You become an insane reprobate, like Chung da Spamming Chink QUACK :-)

[Robert Preston]

Andrew B. Chung with his emaciated frame and swollen belly (ascites),
glazed eyes and greasy matted filthy hair is the one who appears to be
consigning himself to a very short life, due to his pathological
eating disorder.

And until you post a video of yourself on You Tube both *publicly*
saying "Jesus is Lord" and sowing that you are neither obese nor
malnourished, you remain a *liar*.

"Andrew B. Chung" wrote:

> friends like MU **and** Rod Eastman
>
> >> With all due love (Ro13:8) and kindness (Ep4:32), can you, Claire,
> >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>
> >Andrew, I've got no need to get into trying to prove my evangelical
> >credentials here that is hot air since we can all talk the talk
>
> Incorrect.
>
> It is written that we are to prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
>
> Moreover, it is also written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Indeed, it is sad that Rod Eastman is completely unable/unwilling to
*publicly* say "Jesus is Lord" with his mouth on You Tube.

Rod Eastman wrote:
>
> > gutless queer, gutless anonymous
> > stalker, bastard, spineless jellyfish
>
> The use of profanity is simply not justifiable.
> Name-calling by anyone who is not GOD is automatically lying by the definition
> of name-calling.

Indeed.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c74740?hl=en

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling that you have when you need to eat something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

Webster dictionary: Hunger:

To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
death... starve"

[Malachi]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

> Yes, **life-long** right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm, MU,

> **and** Rod Eastman are doing

LOL considering both Chung and "MU" (Courtney) look like someone in
the final stages of malnutrition, AIDS or terminal cancer. Gaunt.
Swollen belly. Hair loss for "MU". Lack of hygiene (filthy greasy
below waist length hair) for Andrew. Spaced out glazed eyes. Doesn't
look like a long life for either of them. Lone yes, long, no.

Chris Malcolm and Rod Eastman have since come to their senses and
dropped the 2PD eating disorder, which they were inconsistent with (of
course) to begin with.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c74740?hl=en

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling (sensation) that you have when you need to eat

[Rod]

On 11/1/2011 12:32 AM, Robert Preston wrote:
> On Oct 30, 6:59 am, Rod<nhraf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/30/2011 1:25 AM, Malachi wrote:
>>
>>> What happens when you eat too little? You become an insane reprobate,
>>> like Andrew B. Chung :-)
>>
>> So you prefer to be fat and ugly and live a very short life...we
>> understand...you're insane.
>
> Andrew B. Chung with his emaciated frame and swollen belly (ascites),
> glazed eyes and greasy matted filthy hair is the one who appears to be
> consigning himself to a very short life, due to his pathological
> eating disorder.
>
> And until you post a video of yourself on You Tube both *publicly*
> saying "Jesus is Lord" and sowing that you are neither obese nor
> malnourished, you remain a *liar*.

Actually, you must be PROVEN to be lying to be known as a *LIAR*,
and until you have PROVEN me to be lying YOU have proven yourself
to be a *LIAR*, you dumbass.

[Rod]

On 11/1/2011 12:45 AM, Malachi wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>
>> Yes, **life-long** right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm, MU,
>> **and** Rod Eastman are doing
>
> LOL considering both Chung and "MU" (Courtney) look like someone in
> the final stages of malnutrition, AIDS or terminal cancer. Gaunt.
> Swollen belly. Hair loss for "MU". Lack of hygiene (filthy greasy
> below waist length hair) for Andrew. Spaced out glazed eyes. Doesn't
> look like a long life for either of them. Lone yes, long, no.
>
> Chris Malcolm and Rod Eastman have since come to their senses and
> dropped the 2PD eating disorder, which they were inconsistent with (of
> course) to begin with.

I can't speak for Chris malcolm, but my part in the statement above
is a fabrication. I'm still on the diet and working towards the omer
control slowly, and losing weight.

[Malachi]

Until you post a video of yourself on You Tube both *publicly*
saying "Jesus is Lord" and showing that you are neither obese nor

malnourished, you remain a *liar*.

--

"Andrew B. Chung" wrote:
> friends like MU **and** Rod Eastman

> >> With all due love (Ro13:8) and kindness (Ep4:32), can you, Claire,
> >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

> >Andrew, I've got no need to get into trying to prove my evangelical
> >credentials here that is hot air since we can all talk the talk

> Incorrect.

> It is written that we are to prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21).

> Moreover, it is also written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Indeed, it is sad that Rod Eastman is completely unable/unwilling to
*publicly* say "Jesus is Lord" with his mouth on You Tube.

Rod Eastman wrote:

> > gutless queer, gutless anonymous
> > stalker, bastard, spineless jellyfish

> The use of profanity is simply not justifiable.
> Name-calling by anyone who is not GOD is automatically lying by the definition
> of name-calling.

Indeed.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c...

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition

http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/i...

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling that you have when you need to eat something

[Robert Preston]

On Nov 1, 5:28 pm, Rod <nhraf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Chris Malcolm and Rod Eastman have since come to their senses and
> > dropped the 2PD eating disorder, which they were inconsistent with (of
> > course) to begin with.
>
>     I can't speak for Chris malcolm, but my part in the statement above
> is a fabrication. I'm still on the diet and working towards the omer
> control slowly, and losing weight.

By calling it a "diet", you are contradicting and betraying Andrew B.
Chung.

If after all this time, you are not sticking to eating only exactly 2
lbs of food per day, you are proving no one will adhere to it. That
the method is based solely upon willpower and ritual. Unless, that is,
it becomes an obsessive compulsive eating disorder.

You are only proving that Andrew B. Chung's invention is a failure.
And that you are no more than Andrew B. Chung's misguided textual
lackey.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> Robert Preston wrote:
> > Robert Preston wrote:
> > > Jimmy_Alpha wrote:
> > >
> > > > It it meant for a years supply of food, along with a small glass of
> > > > beer. Do the math doc...
> > >
> > > Jimmy, I did the math on restaurant food and found out that;
> > >
> > > 2 lbs of food can contain up to:
> > > 3800 calories,
> > > 37 grams of saturated fat,
> > > 82 grams of carbohydrates
> > > and 1800 mg of sodium.
> >
> > Make that 2900 mg of sodium @ 32 oz
> >
> > And also add 36 grams of sugar.
> >
> > On the converse side, 32 oz of food can also add up to as little 450
> > calories per day.
>
> That gives a reasonable median of 2125 calories while showing how
> counting calories is meaningless compared to counting ounces.
> Moveover, the price we pay is indexed to the number of ounces of food
> irrespective of the estimated number of calories.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a3ae0fc69aebeac?

liaM wrote:

> Hello Dr. Chung,
>
> What do you think of Dr. Ornish's and Dr. Barnard's analysises as to
> changes in lifestyle and diet being capable of reversing arteriosclerosis ?

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/30d8a6eb2f4b2661?

When it happens with "lifestyle changes" it happens because a person
has lost their visceral adiposity ( http://WDJW.net/NoVAT ) by eating
the right amount (32 oz ) of daily food irrespective of the diet.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

[ken]

--

[MU]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> The absolutely only healthy way to stop the overeating is to

> the heart by holding to the

> right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

Untrue.

The diet invented by Andrew B. Chung, is only one of many available
dietary options.

Take into consideration though; that there isn't a single bit of
obtainable empirical clinical evidence, to support Andrew B. Chung's
opinion of the diet he invented.

Nor is there a single licensed nutritionist or dietitian who's on on
record having supported Andrew B. Chung's opinion of the diet he
invented.

Nor is there a single theologian, Bible scholar or historian who will
back up Andrew B. Chung's opinion of what an "omer" weighs, or any of
Andrew B. Chung's other opinions as to how the Bible supposedly
applies directly to the diet he invented.

All you really have to go by regarding the diet invented by Andrew B
Chung, is nothing more than Andrew B. Chung's opinions and personal
claims.

Andrew B. Chung will claim that the diet he invented was the result of
a vision form God, however he didn't start making this claim until
about five years after its 1998 inception.

He will also claim it's not a diet, even though he called it a diet
until about five years after its 1998 inception.

> happened in 1997 during the viewing of an IMAX
> Mt.Everest documentary that started playing at the Tennessee
> Aquarium **before** 1996:

Untrue.

The release date for the IMAX documentary "Everest" was, 6 March 1998.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120661/releaseinfo

Andrew B. Chung wrote:

> 2 pound diet
> [I] Dr. Chung invented this approach

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/fd713904...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

In his most recent video, he appears completely emaciated with swollen
belly (ascites), glazed eyes and waist long greasy hair. Andrew B.
Chung appears to be deteriorating into something reminiscent of Howard
Hughes' psychical condition towards the end of his life.

Of his eating disorder Andrew B. Chung says:

> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier

Suggested reading:

NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) Eating Disorders:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/eating-disorders/complete-index.shtml

> [I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD

It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:
>
> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

Delusion.

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9640d01d3a577445?

> Macmillan: Hunger (noun)
> ?
> the feeling that you have when you need to eat something

Same delusion.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

If this deluded definition were correct, it means that those of us who
have had hunger ever since using the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach
14 years ago have needed to eat something for that long.

In the interim, we have been eating the right amount (32 oz) of daily
food.

Therefore, the Macmillan definition of hunger is also delusionally
wrong.

What is the correct definition?

Hunger is the desire to eat food combined with the ability to eat
food.

How do we use the word hunger correctly in sentences?

(1) A boy, who has hunger, wants to eat and is able to eat.

(2) Each person feels hunger in their heart differently for each
person's heart is different. Some feel it to be a burning sensation,
others a gnawing sensation, and still others an empty sensation.

(3) Foolishly eating rancid meat stops hunger.

Again, the bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9640d01d3a577445?

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

an accursed lying sockpuppet wrote:
>

> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

[MU]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

> Yes, **life-long** right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm, MU,
> **and** Rod Eastman are doing

LOL considering both Chung and "MU" (Courtney) look like someone in
the final stages of malnutrition, AIDS or terminal cancer. Gaunt.
Swollen belly. Hair loss for "MU". Lack of hygiene (filthy greasy
below waist length hair) for Andrew. Spaced out glazed eyes. Doesn't

look like a long life for either of them. Lone, yes. long, no.

Chris Malcolm and Rod Eastman have clearly demostrited that without
deveoping a pathological disorder,
they are unable to maintain the 2PD diet flop.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c74740?hl=en

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling (sensation) that you have when you need to eat
something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Mr. Jayne Cobb]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" blundered:

> (2) Each person feels hunger in their heart

GSI is right, Chung knows nothing about medicine or anatomy, ah ha.

People feel hunger in their *stomach* ROFL

And Happy Oyster is right about hunger killing Andrew B. Chung's brain
cells, wahahaha.

> [I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD

It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.

--

Being able to say "Jesus is Lord" doesn't mean you're really a
Christian:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.theology/msg/c1f6ebf342c74740?hl=en

Hunger is starvation and malnutrition
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

> Hunger is not a sensation.

Macmillan dictionary: Hunger

1. The feeling (sensation) that you have when you need to eat
something

2. A lack of food that can cause illness or death

Webster dictionary: Hunger:

To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
death... starve

Bottom line regarding Andrew B. Chung:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S0VzMKyeLY

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

the right amount, which is 32 ounces, of daily food irrespective of
the diet.

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0c6e4e9a4f860064?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

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[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>> an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>

>>> > Opinions, which come from the heart (Jeremiah 17:9), are invariably
>>> > wrong.
>>>
>>> And that's why I exhort people to put Andrew B. Chung's claims to the
>>> test,rather than be swayed by emotion or by Andrew B. Chung's nonsense
>>> simply because it's wrapped in the Evangel and Andrew is good a
>>> parroting Evangelistic vernacular.
>>
>> Andrew is a physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) and not an
>> evangelist. Unlike you, Brian, this physician is a gentile disciple
>> ( http://WDJW.net ) of Christ as evident by his being in the Holy
>> Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ).
>>
>>> BTW, here's what Jeremiah 17:9 is about (read the accompanying
>>> commentaries) http://bible.cc/jeremiah/17-9.htm
>>
>> Commentary is opinion. Counsel by the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit )
>> is not opinion. Jeremiah 17:9 and its context is written plainly
>> enough so that there is no reason for even the non-discerning like
>> you, who are without His counsel, to seek out the opinion of others:
>>
>> "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can
>> understand it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)
>>
>> The context is:
>>
>> "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere
>> flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD." (Jeremiah 17:5)
>>
>> Your trust/reliance on Biblical commentaries (i.e. trusting man) does
>> mean you are accursed according to what is written at Jeremiah 17:5.
>>
>> Now, stop sinning or something worse may happen to you (John 5:14)
>> like possibly (Matthew 19:26) having your name blotted from the Lamb's
>> Book of Life if this has not happened already.
>>
>> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can
>> you, Brian, still publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>
> That's just another sockpuppet name, oh discerning one.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4577a84e6590a8df?

Those like you, Brian, who have had their names blotted from the
LORD's Book of Life cannot answer the above yes/no question with a
written affirmative.

Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f05f5179a03b5890?

an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Claire wrote:
> >
> > >> With all due love (Ro13:8) and kindness (Ep4:32), can you, Claire,
> > >> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
> >
> > > Andrew, I've got no need to get into trying to prove my evangelical
> > > credentials here that is hot air since we can all talk the talk
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > It is written that we are to prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
> >
> > Moreover, it is also written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> > except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians 12:3)
>
> Indeed, it is sad that Rod Eastman is completely unable/unwilling to
> *publicly* say "Jesus is Lord" with his mouth on You Tube.

Only the accursed are not able to go to http://WDJW.net to witness Rod
Eastman publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with his mouth (Romans 10:9).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c89eefe58adf2068?

Suggested additional reading ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/09a2a81d9d0a19ec?

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/09722a52e8d3f990?

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be534c05974835e3?

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/51db0a7b68523d0e?

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/672f838f3cb65914?

... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3569c49c09c053c3?

... and finally ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

an accursed Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote via a sockpuppet:

>
> Webster dictionary: Hunger:
>
> To cause to suffer severely from hunger... to cause to starve to
> death... starve

Delusion.

Those who suffer from this delusion are most definitely accursed (2
Thessalonians 2:11).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

... and finally ...

> Macmillan: Hunger (noun)
> ?
> the feeling that you have when you need to eat something

Same delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

If this deluded definition were correct, it means that those of us who
have had hunger ever since using the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach
14 years ago have needed to eat something for that long.

In the interim, we have been eating the right amount, which is 32
ounces, of daily food.

Therefore, the Macmillan definition of hunger is also delusionally
wrong.

What is the correct definition?

Hunger is the desire to eat food combined with the ability to eat
food.

How do we use the word hunger correctly in sentences?

(1) A boy, who has hunger, wants to eat and is able to eat.

(2) Each person feels hunger in their heart differently for each
person's heart is different. Some feel it to be a burning sensation,
others a gnawing sensation, and still others an empty sensation.

(3) Foolishly eating rancid meat stops hunger.

The final bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a8bcd089830c36c?

[Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

False Christian troll "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can
> >> you, Brian, still publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>

> Those like you, Brian, who have had their names blotted from the
> LORD's Book of Life cannot answer the above yes/no question with a
> written affirmative.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d2c4b7f081fa0e09?hl=en

Another Andrew Chung falsehood:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/da2be5b4e674264f?hl=en


Andrew B. Chung just lied to me and about me, in the Holy Spirit
(according to him).

> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:

According to Andrew B. Chung's false interpretation; Andrew B. Chung
has just committed Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and his name has
been blotted out from the "LORD's Book of Life".
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29b32e2446470998?hl=en

[Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

False Christian troll "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can
> >> you, Brian, still publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>

> Those like you, Brian, who have had their names blotted from the
> LORD's Book of Life cannot answer the above yes/no question with a
> written affirmative.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d2c4b7f081fa0e09?hl=en

Another Andrew Chung falsehood:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/da2be5b4e674264f?hl=en


Andrew B. Chung just lied to me and about me, in the Holy Spirit
(according to him).

> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:

According to Andrew B. Chung's false interpretation; Andrew B. Chung
has just committed Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and his name has

been blotted out from the "LORD's Book of Life".
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29b32e2446470998?hl=en

[Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:

> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
> blotted from God's Book of Life?

The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
the Holy Spirit:

"Then Peter (in the Holy Spirit) said, 'Ananias, how is it that satan
has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and
have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold,
wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a
thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to GOD.' When
Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all
who heard what had happened." (Acts 5:3-5)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29b32e2446470998?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> <burp> we had a Thanksgiving buffet at the fellowship I attend Sunday
> eve, and I'm still feeling the effects.
>
> I'd like to see Doc Andy at one of those, holding up the line by
> weighing each portion of turkey and trimmings while making his
> calculations

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52ff4b8b4947454c?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) weighs his meal (not
individual food items) right before giving thanks to the LORD for the
**amount** in ounces that He has provided:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/WDJW/196255898065

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

[Jimmy Alpha; GED]

On 11/25/2011 5:28 PM, sightwalker Andrew B. Chung with a phd said:
> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
>> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
>> blotted from God's Book of Life?
>
> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:
>
> "Then Peter (in the Holy Spirit) said, 'Ananias, how is it that satan
> has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and
> have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
> Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold,
> wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a
> thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to GOD.' When
> Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all
> who heard what had happened." (Acts 5:3-5)

That's an opinion you can't back up with scripture. Your take on Acts
5:3-5 is your own take and not back up by mainstream theology.
sightwalker you need to be under the control of a real pastor. That's my
opinion...

Jimmy Alpha GED
The opinions expressed here are those of James Alpha, and should not be
mistaken as medical or religious advice, even tho the opinions could be
used as such.

[Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

On Nov 25, 2:28 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
> > straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
> > blotted from God's Book of Life?
>
> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
> the Holy Spirit:

That's not precise. It's vague. Ananias told a specific lie to an
Apostle with ordained authority from God within the active Body of
Christ.

What specific lie did I tell to someone who possesses ordained
authority from God (much less an Apostle) within the active Body of
Christ?

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

> > Rod wrote:
> >> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
> >>
> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
> >
> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> > advice to anyone via Usenet.
>
> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/90cd2abfb107a1b5?

Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
Jimmy.

Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
from Him for the latter:

http://T3WiJ.com

Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and Elijah, who have
not ever died, instead of walking with you who have been cursed by
Him:

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2fdccf898019a85?

Suggested additional reading:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3d568c9dd585bbd7?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e6c24d253fa7dc2d?

May GOD have mercy on your soul, Jimmy, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth.

Amen.

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

monkfish wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

>> The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are doing
>> what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John 15:12)
>
> You don't appear to know how to love others.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e363afac5a11fd9?

The fruit of love is not an appearance of love so that by your error,
you've unwittingly revealed that you do not know how to love as the
LORD loves (John 15:13) and commands (John 15:12) of us.

Love per the LORD's command (John 15:12) is the mindful choice to
openly care with our heart which is shown here by our openly praying
for the salvation of those like Ken, GSI, and Claire who have been
discovered to be in need of salvation through testing via 1
Corinthians 12:3 plus(+) the choice to meet unwanted needs as evident
by our correcting those like you who are in error about love. No one
wants correction about love though they need this in order to be able
to love as the LORD commands (John 15:12) and has taught us through
His choice to meet disciple Peter's unwanted need to be convinced to
have his feet washed of the curse that has been placed on the ground
since Adam&Eve allowed sin to enter into this world.

With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can

you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

[Brian Gene Kelley]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> That the Spirit of Truth has left the person (i.e. the person was not
> Spirit filled during the lie) and that the person may have become so
> defiled that the Holy Spirit may not ever return to indwell in that
> person's mind ever again.

Where can we find in scripture that the Holy Spirit flickers in and
out of someone who has been (2 Corinthians 1:21-22, Ephesians 1:13 and
Ephesians 4:30)?

> This has apparently happened to both Brian Gene Kelley and Jimmy
> Alpha.

Where is that in Scripture again?

> There really is no other rational explanation

Yeah, but surely there's Scripture which directly addresses this
phenomenon, which has been a widely held interpretation by many over a
long period of time.

> for their delay in their
> proving that they **still** can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with
> their mouth.

What indeed has been the delay in Andrew B. Chung proving that he can
**still** publicly say "JESUS IS LORD" with his mouth?

And will Andrew B. Chung be able to maintain that proof on a **daily**
basis? Because that's the only way it can be proven that he can
**still** publicly say "JESUS IS LORD" with his mouth.

[Great Sage Itchy]

Usenet CREEP WARNING € Usenet CREEP WARNING €Usenet CREEP WARNING
ARROGANT SPAMMING ASSHOLE Andrew B. Chung is INSANE. Totally INSANE.
An extreme Egoist. He has NO spirituality, nothing but pure EGO.
His condition is PERMANENT, there is NO CURE.

Opposites Attract...
It is quite common for such people (the totally egocentric) to be
attracted to that which is opposite from them, Jesus and spirituality.
But camels will fly through the eye of a needle and cows will jump over
the moon before even a glint of the Holy Spirit enters the body of a
total EGOIST like Chung. Chung is extremely arrogant, self-righteous,
and delusional. Such people are evil and DANGEROUS. Stay far away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

DO NOT FEED SICK ASSHOLE TROLLS.
There is NOTHING anyone can do for Chung. His condition is far beyond
any help. A diamond hard egoist, like Chung, is "always right", and
everyone else is "always wrong" in the delusional world they live in.
Soon enough, such defective people are cleaned from this world, usually
by violence or horrible disease. Such people are DANGEROUS, stay far
away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

SEE EXAMPLES BELOW:

Totally ARROGANT EXTREME "Christian" EGOIST Chung FIRED again...
Ordered to leave or be removed by the POLICE!! - From a Church!!!
(nobody likes a totally arrogant, insane, self-righteous asshole/creep)
Transcript:

"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church Woodstock (Georgia). Andrew, I need to inform you
that you're not allowed to come back to our campus. I don't want you to
show up this weekend, I don't want you to come back, okay? That's the
decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back, I
will call the police. Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow
it to end right now. Thank you and have a good day."

Chung video response ("GodTube"):
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=JEBB9CNU

First Baptist Church of Woodstock
Pastor Johnny M. Hunt
11905 Georgia 92
Woodstock, GA 30188
(770) 926-4428
u...@fbcw.net
www.fbcw.org
Twitter: @fbcwoodstock
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_18809369051
--------------------------------------

Chung FIRED after 80 days employment at the Central Florida Heart
Center (CFHC) by head of Cardiology: Dr. Frank Hildner MD:

Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the following letter to Andrew B. Chung:

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that
is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I
have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the
situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call on physicians from around the world and this community to attest
to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly. Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of
my professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either
me or the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once
again, if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened
yet) I will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine
for a hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a
censure, that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your
next and all future applications for licensure. And once again, just
common sense should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have
no common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a
professional community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did
before, you do not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may
be, must be according to the community standard, regardless of what you
perceive that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that
you were unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly
and clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of
hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks
upon such attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will
continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you
talked yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL


WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT ANDREW B. CHUNG:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Chung fucked me in the ass. I trusted him, and he fucked me in the
ass." -Michael C.
"Chung Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and
only job after just over 80 days. Fled the state of Florida, and now
claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in
the State's hospitals." -Shlomo F.
"Chung runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa
$200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its
website. Visiting said website will infect your PC." -S.F.
"Chung promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that
he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the "Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud", where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover*
onto food. (*Acetone - extremely destructive to the nervous sys.)
"Declares he has a cardiology practice despite cross-posting the same
spam night and day (as often as 24 times a day) from the same IP
address (his home presumably).'
"Chung has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women and gay or
trans-gender males. His wife of four months fled some time ago to
another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on
vacation".
"Everyone familiar with Andrew B. Chung knows he is a sick asshole.
Even his parents. He knows he is a sick asshole (street term for
EGOIST). There is NOTHING "spiritual" about him. He has absolutely NO
HOPE of real spirituality. In fact, he is the opposite of spirituality,
ALL EGO, and NOTHING BUT EGO. Chung has no real friends, and never
will. No one wants to be around a TOTAL ASSHOLE. His only hope is to
try to learn how real humans behave by observation, then pretend to be
like them. He will always be a total asshole, but he will learn to hide
it and fake being a real human. He will not fool a real human for long,
but will have something that resembles a human life. There is no other
way for him. His condition (total arrogance) is permanent. His life
will go badly, and end ugly. A total egoist, like Chung, will NEVER
admit to any imperfection, but Chung knows that most of this is true."
-GSI
"Another very sad lunatic ranting garbage he knows nothing about..
wasting his life in vanity and thinking anybody cares or even bothers
to read his garbage." -G. Snow
"Chung, the people you arrogantly attack here in these groups are
saints compared to you. You are a supreme EGOIST. You do not qualify
for human status, and never will. Even dogs or pigs are higher than
you. You should be living with crocodiles. Stay away from these groups.
Your total ARROGANCE is ugly and disgusting. It's highly disturbing to
be constantly reminded that this world produces such sick and arrogant
creeps." - Great Sage Itchy
Chung wrote: "retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote
in part as a retireeŠ" and Ecifer responded: "The good doctor
(Hildner) is recognized as one of the preeminent cardiologists in the
world, while Chunk is flailing away on Usenet with no practice and no
hospital admitting privileges."

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung, Emory University:
--------------------------------------------------------------
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"We are running in a competitive race that has already been won by the
risen Christ Jesus, Who because of His victory sits at the right hand
of GOD the Father. The prize for running this race well is a place in
Heaven that is closer to GOD. Heaven is a very large place and GOD's
House in Heaven is a very big house. Let our place in Heaven not be
outside the House." -Andrew B. Chung
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"The LORD may possibly give us a sign 3 weeks from today (1/23/2010) to
further humble us as He did back in 9/11/2001. GOD is awesome. Fear the
LORD and dread nought else." -Andrew B. Chung
"And you and the other evildoers have been tossed into that lake of
fire that has been prepared for you while the rest of us are enjoying a
new Heaven and new Earth in our new glorified bodies like those of
angels." - Andrew B. Chung
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote: "May GOD curse to the Nth generation
all the real humans who presently know the identity of the person
behind the lying sockpuppet here, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen. Laus Deo :-) "
"Death to the Godless imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of
China."
"Death to the fascist bandit Hu Jintao, and his running dogs, the
Communist Party of China."
"Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom.
Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dali Lama"

"May GOD annihilate you at your keyboard if you try to pretend to be
Him again, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen." -Andrew B.
Chung

"Chung-First Baptist Church-Police" v1.8
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Chung on YouTube:
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Runaway Groom... The story of Chung's wedding:
Lady-boy Chung's wedding is broken-up by his former gay lover,
who runs off with the groom, leaving Chung (white wedding dress) in the
lurch.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w

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Part-1
Lady-boy, "Dongdan" (Cross-dresser) Videos
Andrew B Chung *****: Hot date make-up tutorial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__Iv8FQdYY

Part-2 Chung (AKA "Ms. High Heels") ready for action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7H_M-APuak
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Chung (rated 5-stars): His most revealing photoshoot ever!
(With very nice jungle (drum and bass) soundtrack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEdGAd4RB4
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[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

ARROGANT ASSHOLE

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

What are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/470799ce370a2ff2?

What is the "hunger is starvation" delusion?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

[Great Sage Itchy]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

About the CHUNG "2IQ-MRON Diet", the "diet" for morons and
self-righteous, arrogant, assholes who sit in front of computers all
day spamming the internet in hopes that "God" will reward them with
both riches, and a front-row seat in his "Heavenly Palace":

The Chung "2IQ-MRON Diet" combines "religious" extremism with dietary
extremism. The origin of this diet is Chung's new interpretation of
biblical scripture which reveals that both "Jesus" and "God" carried
around scales, and "religiously" weighed everything they ate, never
consuming more than a biblical "OMER", todays equivalent of 2 pounds
(according to Chung). Chung further claims that WHAT you eat is not
important, eat roadkill if you like. Just don't get carried away and
consume more than 2 pounds. Chung adds in the strongest terms, that
going over 2 pounds even once is a "perishing soul" offense, and warns
that his Messiah, "LORD" Jesus Christ**, teacher of love and
forgiveness, will personally roast alive all offenders.

The 2-digit IQ world of fanatical Evangelical so-called "Christianity",
(aka "Jesus is LORD" "Christianity") now has a "diet", thanks to one of
its most INSANE fanatics, Andrew B. Chung. A diet derived, in true
evangelical fashion, by interpreting the Bible to suit the needs of the
true 2-digit believers/egoists. A diet that ignores almost everything
about diet from science and common sense, and substitutes a rigid rule
about the "God ordained" (according to Andrew B. Chung) "right"
quantity. It doesn't seem to matter whether you live in the tropics or
Alaska, whether you work as a lumberjack or an office worker, or even
WHAT you eat. Everyone MUST ALWAYS eat 2 pounds of food per day, and no
more. Nothing else matters in the world that brought us "Creation
Science".

No medical professional would EVER endorse The Chung diet, just as no
real scientist would ever endorse Creationism. Both are what happens
when stupid "religious" fanatics attempt to force their stupid LITERAL
interpretation of the Bible into the fields of science and medicine, to
"PROVE" that THEY are the "smart" ones.
Food is primarily fuel. There is NO one right amount for all people in
all climates and all daily activities. A lumberjack, football player or
construction worker cannot do a days work on 32 oz. of food, while for
instance, an arrogant internet spammer probably could. And it DOES
matter WHAT you eat*. The 2IQ-MRON diet is pure 2 digit Evangelical
BULLSHIT, and Andrew B. Chung knows it. The suggestion that REAL
medical professionals at Emory University are supporting this BS is
laughable. The janitorial staff at Emory is smarter than that. Give me
the phone number of ONE real medical professional who supports this
Chung BS. Any medical professional supporting this should lose his
license immediately.

*Genesis 1-29: And God said, 'Behold, I have given you every herb
bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in
which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for
meat.'
Ezekiel 4-9: "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and
lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make
bread of it..."

(Anybody want to bet on whether you can get a hamburger at the Creation
"Science" Museum?)

The dietary "brilliance" of Andrew B. Chung:
"Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero."

GSI: Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical
cord and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High
School knows. Chung shows almost NO real medical knowledge. No
medically trained person would EVER write the bullshit sentence above.

"Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be accompanied
by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire to eat real
food even **before** the eating happens." -Andrew B. Chung

GSI: We are so lucky here on UseNet to have free access to the hard
earned wisdom of brilliant medical professionals like Dr. Chung -
"Hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food that is
verified by the ability to eat real food." Wow!, who would have
guessed?

"Hunger for real food does not indicate a need for real food as evident
by this desire often increasing when the food is especially palatable
in the middle of eating the "right" daily amount (32 oz, one "OMER")
when any real need would be decreasing." -Andrew B. Chung

GSI: Again the 2-digit IQ problem. "Hunger for real food does not
indicate a need for real food as evident by this desire often
increasing..." In this sentence, Chung is so determined to make hunger
a positive thing that he makes "hunger" and "desire" mean the same
thing, destroying any possible meaning for the sentence.

GSI: "Chung, take your 2 digit moronic "diet" bullshit to the
appropriate newsgroups. "alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.bible.prophecy" etc. are not the place for arrogant hourly "status"
updates on how many ounces of food an arrogant asshole has consumed.
What you are doing here is PURE ARROGANCE. There is NOTHING "holy" or
"righteous" about it. You and your sock-puppets are ARROGANT. The
"diet" you promote leads to making you even bigger ASSHOLES.
Though it hardly seems possible, you will become even more egocentric,
rigid, and self-righteous.

ANDREW B. CHUNG, can you say with your own mouth "I DON'T KNOW" This is
the one thing the EGOIST cannot say with his mouth. EGOISTS are all
about "KNOWING". They never say "I don't know". They CAN'T say "I Don't
Know". The EGOIST always KNOWS. No matter what the subject. The really
huge EGOISTS even claim to know what Jesus or God thinks or wants.

The extremes of religion are full of egoist creeps and insane
whacko's. Aligning themselves with GOD and Jesus automatically bestows
"righteousness" and "Holiness" to the judgments and asshole opinions of
these assholes. They KNOW how you should conduct your life. They want
you to live and eat and worship exactly as they do. Because they KNOW
what GOD wants, and they are always right, and you are always wrong.
They are "in the Holy Spirit", and you are a sinner. They have the
knowledge and wisdom of scripture, and you are a MORON, a BLASPHEMER, a
PERISHING SOUL. They KNOW and you don't.
The truth is, they don't KNOW. Nobody does. Those who claim to, are
liars, fools, delusional, or INSANE. They will have few friends and
will become sick. Those who say they DON"T know are humble, happy, and
have many friends. Those who say they are totally ignorant, are wise,
and will become like Jesus or Buddha.
-GSI:2011

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The sayings of the prophet Itchy:

** Original Christianity : "Jesus Christ, fisher of men."
Evangelical Christianity: "Jesus Christ, roaster of men."
-GSI

Spirituality is about enlightenment, Religion is about killing. -GSI
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[monkfish]

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Still clueless?
When was the last time you attended a worship service?

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

> Still clueless?

Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting for your answer to the above
yes/no question.

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),

can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7710ab5ae1b0ecdd?

[monkfish]

You can do much better than that.
You can actually love your neighbor.
God willing, of course. ;)

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

> You can do much better than that.

Patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Who has no better.

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

monkfish wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > monkfish wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> monkfish wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The LORD commands His disciples, who are mindful of WDJW and are
> >>>>> doing what He wants, to "love each other as I have loved you."(John
> >>>>> 15:12)
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't appear to know how to love others.
> >>>

> >>> The fruit of love is not an appearance of love so that by your error,
> >>> you've unwittingly revealed that you do not know how to love as the
> >>> LORD loves (John 15:13) and commands (John 15:12) of us.
> >>>
> >>> Love per the LORD's command (John 15:12) is the mindful choice to
> >>> openly care with our heart which is shown here by our openly praying
> >>> for the salvation of those like Ken, GSI, and Claire who have been
> >>> discovered to be in need of salvation through testing via 1
> >>> Corinthians 12:3 plus(+) the choice to meet unwanted needs as evident
> >>> by our correcting those like you who are in error about love. No one
> >>> wants correction about love though they need this in order to be able
> >>> to love as the LORD commands (John 15:12) and has taught us through
> >>> His choice to meet disciple Peter's unwanted need to be convinced to
> >>> have his feet washed of the curse that has been placed on the ground
> >>> since Adam&Eve allowed sin to enter into this world.
> >>>
> >>> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32), can
> >>> you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
> >>
> >> Still clueless?
> >

> > Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting for your answer to the above
> > yes/no question.
> >
> > Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
> > can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>

> You can do much better than that.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e45e74b230f9a95?

Patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Who has no better.

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[monkfish]

Do you ever listen to your loved ones?

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

> Do you ever listen to your loved ones?

Ever patiently (Ephesians 4:2), with all glory to GOD :-)

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[monkfish]

Still here?
Are you a slave of Jesus or a friend of Jesus?

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

>Still here?

Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) here, with all glory to GOD :-)

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

>... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[monkfish]

You misunderstood.
God is not as simplistic as you think He is.
Ever read any book on theology?

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33):
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung post the link of a
> single living human Bible teacher, other than himself, that Andrew B.
> Chung thinks isn't a false teacher?

LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is living and is human and is this
physician's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) true Bible Teacher :-)

> LOL

"The written laughter of false Bible teachers is their silent despair
for they have been cursed by GOD." -- Holy Spirit

In reference to:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/33d8a3049283b17c?

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- A false Bible teacher cited by
someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
of Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse to the Nth generation all who grieve
His Holy Spirit by falsely teaching that "Anyone can say 'Jesus is
LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Deaf-mutes obviously can't say anything much less say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say
"Jesus is LORD"' has been logically proven to be false since anyone
would include deaf-mutes." -- gentile Christian disciple in the Holy
Spirit

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5be9c7429d83a0d0?

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

The above YouTube video of an overweight Bible teacher in a blue shirt
titled "Beware of the loner" doesn't apply to this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) because physicians are by definition not
loners.

"Be a good student of Scripture." -- False doctrine from the cited
overweight Bible teacher in a blue shirt

"Only One is good." -- Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 19:17)

Yes, doing good works does not make us good. The only One Who can make
us good is the only One Who is good and He would do this when He says
we are good. Moreover, the overweight false Bible teacher in the blue
shirt is not doing good works by teaching false doctrine for all to
see via YouTube so GOD would call him an evildoer instead of a good
servant on His Day of Judgement.

May GOD continue to curse all who call themselves good, in the name of

Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect." -- Jesus
Christ of Nazareth (Matthew 5:48)

"Be a **perfect** student of Scripture by being a disciple of our
risen LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth." -- HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy
Spirit, referring to Matthew 28:19-20, ever mindful of WDJW, both
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing what the LORD wants with all
glory to GOD.

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life wrote:
>
> Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.

Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
do.

It is written that the deceived like you would be deceiving others,
going from bad to worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has the experience of
training parrots to speak and has discovered that they cannot say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) much less the entirety
of the second half of 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Thus, you have been caught in another lie.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06fa5c7ff7727403?

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life wrote:
>
> The charlatan Christian says, "The fact that I can quote the words
> written in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, proves that I'm a genuine Christian".

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524c5702d8c4db06?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not witnessed anyone
saying that.

Instead, what he has witnessed is born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Christians
saying "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.

> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
> Corinthians 12:3b.

Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around you to the Nth
generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

[OCeallaigh]

A lone crackpot who shows hatred for all true Christians who don't
submit to his weirdo "Hunger Is Wonderful" doctrine wrote:


> Loving (John 15:12) others
>
<Gargantuan bandwidth snip>
>
> ...curse you...
>
> ...curse you...
>
> ...curse you...
>
> ...curse you...
>
> ...curse you...
>
> ...wither away...
>
> ...work for satan...
>
> ...satan...master...

It's so nice to be in the constant real life company of fellow true
born again
Biblically literate Christians. It makes a lone crackpot's
hatred, heresy, blasphemy, hypocrisy, charlatanism, nonsense and
lunacy so blatantly obvious :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI


O'Ceallaigh

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

> You misunderstood.

Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting here for your answer to the
above yes/no question, with all glory to GOD :-)

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Great Sage Itchy]

EGO-Christianity by G. S. Itchy, GS/GTH

Most, if not all of the so-called "saved" "Christians" in these groups
are INSANE.
I don't mean "insane" in an "internet/Usenet" way, I mean they are
clinically INSANE. I'm speaking of CHUNG, JOE BRUNO, VERA, BEAR, VINCE
GARCIA, etc. - INSANE.. And their so-called CHRISTIANITY that
believes that THEY are favored by "God" and their savior, "LORD" Jesus
Christ, because of their "worship", "faith", and "salvation" is a
"religion" created BY and FOR INSANE SICK ASSHOLES (egoists) for the
purpose of making those sick assholes "RIGHT, and "RIGHTEOUS" and
"better", "holier" than the rest of us. I call this religion
"EGO-Christianity"*.
What was once a religion of ONENESS (enlightenment) and PEACE has been
twisted into a support/belief system, for egoists, a pure white sheet
of "Christianity" to cover the assholes (egoists) and loser/creeps
hiding underneath, and make them the "winners".

EGO-Christianity is NOT religion at all. It is a cult of racist egoists
and "exclusive" white supremacists. It is Fascism and neo-Nazism. It's
a delusionary world of who is the Satanic enemy, and who is God's
special favorites. Who will roast and who will rapture. Who will be
sent to the ovens in God's concentration camps and who glide through
God's heavenly realms in a new angelic body. It is the religion of the
toxic, exclusive, arrogant, meat-eating 2-legged standing crocodiles,
i.e. modern meat-eating mankind. The religion of the "Left Behind" of
THIS world, left behind by Twitter, Facebook, Will I. Am, and Lady
Gaga, who believe that a glorious place where THEY are the ones who
matter, is waiting for them in the next world. The religion of the low,
the stupid, the sick assholes, the losers, the haters and
basement-dwelling creeps. The religion of the FOX "News" low eyebrow
people*. Religion for the lowest common denominator in a sick world
where egotism is the driving motor. Religion gone horribly wrong and
turned into its opposite. The "religion" of egotism, i.e. the religion
of Satan.
*People with eyebrow and eye close together. (eg. Tom Cruise)

Real religion is about Oneness, non-ego, enlightenment, known in the
Bible as "entering the Kingdom of Heaven". The REAL God is not a person
or "being" or created thing of any kind. The REAL God has no religion,
no "chosen people", no "chosen land". A REAL Messiah is someone who has
reached the highest goal of this world - enlightenment. Someone who
knows from direct experience that everything is ONE, and that "the
Kingdom of Heaven" / Oneness is here on earth for all to enter. A REAL
Messiah is a teacher of a practical way we ALL can enter the Kingdom
and make this whole world into paradise.

Everything has a front and a back.
Religion has a very big front, and a very big back.
The front is that this world could again become the Garden of Eden (an
enlightened world). The back is that this world could become a neuclear
wasteland forever.
What is needed most is the REAL TRUTH, but that is in very short
supply. Even if a Messiah, a Prophet appeared tomorrow, and spoke the
REAL TRUTH, it would be rejected and discredited because it would not
support the delusions of the egoists who are the majority. He/She would
be arrested and jailed or murdered. Very few want the REAL TRUTH in
this world which is driven by egotism. Even so-called "religion" today
doesn't want the REAL TRUTH. They want billion dollar churches,
multi-million dollar TV studios, corporate jets.
They are businesses who sell or trade the votes of their parish to evil
politicians. They are professional propagandists who use religion to
manipulate the masses for political agendas.
Š the REAL TRUTH - G. S. Itchy, GS/GTH 2011

[monkfish]

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

>>

>> You misunderstood.
>
> Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting here for your answer to the
> above yes/no question, with all glory to GOD :-)
>
> Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
> can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>
> ... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
>
> Andrew <><

You misunderstood.

[quote]
John 15:9-17 New International Version (NIV)
9 “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my
love. 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I
have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11 I have told you
this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12
My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love
has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You
are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you
servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead,
I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I
have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and
appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—
and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17 This
is my command: Love each other.
[/quote]

Do you ever listen to your loved ones?

--
monkfish

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

> >>>> >> >>> With all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),

> >>>> >> >>> can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your
> >>>> >> >>> mouth?
> >>>> >> >>

> >>>> >> >> Still clueless?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting for your answer to the
> >>>> >> > above yes/no question.

> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians
> >>>> >> > 4:32), can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your
> >>>> >> > mouth?
> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> You can do much better than that.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Source:
> >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5e45e74b230f9a95?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Patience is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Who has no better.
> >>>> >

> >>>> > Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians
> >>>> > 4:32), can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your
> >>>> > mouth?
> >>>>

> >>>> Do you ever listen to your loved ones?
> >>>

> >>> Ever patiently (Ephesians 4:2), with all glory to GOD :-)

> >>>
> >>> Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
> >>> can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
> >>

> >> Still here?
> >
> > Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) here, with all glory to GOD :-)

> >
> > Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
> > can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?
>
> You misunderstood.

Still patiently (Ephesians 4:2) waiting here for your answer to the
above yes/no question, with all glory to GOD :-)

Again, with all due love (Romans 13:8) and kindness (Ephesians 4:32),
can you, Monkfish, publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with your mouth?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><

[Great Sage Itchy]

About the CHUNG "2IQ-MRON Diet", the "diet" for morons and
self-righteous, arrogant, assholes who sit in front of computers all
day spamming the internet in hopes that "God" will reward them with
both riches, and a front-row seat in his "Heavenly Palace":

The Chung "2IQ-MRON Diet" combines "religious" extremism with dietary
extremism. The origin of this diet is Chung's new interpretation of
biblical scripture which reveals that both "Jesus" and "God" carried
around scales, and "religiously" weighed everything they ate, never
consuming more than a biblical "OMER", todays equivalent of 2 pounds
(according to Chung). Chung further claims that WHAT you eat is not
important, eat roadkill if you like. Just don't get carried away and
consume more than 2 pounds. Chung adds in the strongest terms, that
going over 2 pounds even once is a "perishing soul" offense, and warns
that his Messiah, "LORD" Jesus Christ**, teacher of love and
forgiveness, will personally roast alive all offenders.

The 2-digit IQ world of fanatical Evangelical so-called "Christianity",
(aka "Jesus is LORD" "Christianity") now has a "diet", thanks to one of
its most INSANE fanatics, Andrew B. Chung. A diet derived, in true
evangelical fashion, by interpreting the Bible to suit the needs of the
true 2-digit believers/egoists. A diet that ignores almost everything
about diet from science and common sense, and substitutes a rigid rule
about the "God ordained" (according to Andrew B. Chung) "right"
quantity. It doesn't seem to matter whether you live in the tropics or
Alaska, whether you work as a lumberjack or an office worker, or even
WHAT you eat. Everyone MUST ALWAYS eat 2 pounds of food per day, and no
more. Nothing else matters in the world that brought us "Creation
Science".

No medical professional would EVER endorse The Chung diet, just as no
real scientist would ever endorse Creationism. Both are what happens
when stupid "religious" fanatics attempt to force their stupid LITERAL
interpretation of the Bible into the fields of science and medicine, to
"PROVE" that THEY are the "smart" ones.
Food is primarily fuel. There is NO one right amount for all people in
all climates and all daily activities. A lumberjack, football player or
construction worker cannot do a days work on 32 oz. of food, while for
instance, an arrogant internet spammer probably could. And it DOES
matter WHAT you eat*. The 2IQ-MRON diet is pure 2 digit Evangelical
BULLSHIT, and Andrew B. Chung knows it. The suggestion that REAL
medical professionals at Emory University are supporting this BS is
laughable. The janitorial staff at Emory is smarter than that. Give me
the phone number of ONE real medical professional who supports this
Chung BS. Any medical professional supporting this should lose his
license immediately.

*Genesis 1-29: And God said, 'Behold, I have given you every herb
bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in
which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for
meat.'
Ezekiel 4-9: "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and
lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make
bread of it..."

(Anybody want to bet on whether you can get a hamburger at the Creation
"Science" Museum?)

The dietary "brilliance" of Andrew B. Chung:
"Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero."

GSI: Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical
cord and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High
School knows. Chung shows almost NO real medical knowledge. No
medically trained person would EVER write the bullshit sentence above.

"Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be accompanied
by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire to eat real
food even **before** the eating happens." -Andrew B. Chung

GSI: We are so lucky here on UseNet to have free access to the hard
earned wisdom of brilliant medical professionals like Dr. Chung -
"Hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food that is
verified by the ability to eat real food." Wow!, who would have
guessed?

"Hunger for real food does not indicate a need for real food as evident
by this desire often increasing when the food is especially palatable
in the middle of eating the "right" daily amount (32 oz, one "OMER")
when any real need would be decreasing." -Andrew B. Chung

GSI: Again the 2-digit IQ problem. "Hunger for real food does not
indicate a need for real food as evident by this desire often
increasing..." In this sentence, Chung is so determined to make hunger
a positive thing that he makes "hunger" and "desire" mean the same
thing, destroying any possible meaning for the sentence.

GSI: "Chung, take your 2 digit moronic "diet" bullshit to the
appropriate newsgroups. "alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.bible.prophecy" etc. are not the place for arrogant hourly "status"
updates on how many ounces of food an arrogant asshole has consumed.
What you are doing here is PURE ARROGANCE. There is NOTHING "holy" or
"righteous" about it. You and your sock-puppets are ARROGANT. The
"diet" you promote leads to making you even bigger ASSHOLES.
Though it hardly seems possible, you will become even more egocentric,
rigid, and self-righteous.

ANDREW B. CHUNG, can you say with your own mouth "I DON'T KNOW" This is
the one thing the EGOIST cannot say with his mouth. EGOISTS are all
about "KNOWING". They never say "I don't know". They CAN'T say "I Don't
Know". The EGOIST always KNOWS. No matter what the subject. The really
huge EGOISTS even claim to know what Jesus or God thinks or wants.

The extremes of religion are full of egoist creeps and insane
whacko's. Aligning themselves with GOD and Jesus automatically bestows
"righteousness" and "Holiness" to the judgments and asshole opinions of
these assholes. They KNOW how you should conduct your life. They want
you to live and eat and worship exactly as they do. Because they KNOW
what GOD wants, and they are always right, and you are always wrong.
They are "in the Holy Spirit", and you are a sinner. They have the
knowledge and wisdom of scripture, and you are a MORON, a BLASPHEMER, a
PERISHING SOUL. They KNOW and you don't.
The truth is, they don't KNOW. Nobody does. Those who claim to, are
liars, fools, delusional, or INSANE. They will have few friends and
will become sick. Those who say they DON"T know are humble, happy, and
have many friends. Those who say they are totally ignorant, are wise,
and will become like Jesus or Buddha.
-GSI:2011

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** Original Christianity : "Jesus Christ, fisher of men."
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[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
Anyone can say that. Even demons can say it through people whom they
have possessed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

**again**

Anyone can say insincerely say "Jesus is Lord".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpH28urOlqE

"To avoid being influenced by false doctrine is, number one:
Be on guard against a loner when it comes to Biblical interpretation.
People who say that they have the truth and they're alone in it and
they're creating new ideas. A lone individual who claims to have some
kind of revelation which is actually false doctrine blended with
truth. We have to be careful of these individuals who claim to have
the Holy Spirit, but they are out of harmony with historic true
doctrine.

Second, become a good student of Scripture... with other Bible
studying Christians. Not alone only. It's not wrong to study the
Scriptures alone, but studying with other Bible studying Christians,
interacting with other Bible studying Christians, mentors, on full
time regular basis, in order to avoid some kind of strange
interpretation of Scripture." - Dr. Gene Getz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Indeed, it is smarter to hold to the right amount, which is 2
kilograms (4.4 lbs/70 oz) of daily food, thereby stopping the
undereating without harmfully overeating.

Yes, right amount: 2KG-0MER Method control as
Fred Farcus, MOO, **and** Dodi Westman are doing is both sophisticated
and smarter:

http://www.itanas.com/personal/2004-06-01%20LA-Vegas/Eating%20in%20buffet.jpg

**and**

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7aaeb7940626693fa418a1eab2291f6.81

Be fuller, which really is wonderfully healthier:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thediethound/blog/2009/06/28/fat-people-are-much-healthier-than-thin-people

Because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart, that all
have a full stomach.

--

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

"Myth: You Can't Be Overweight and Healthy"
http://www.obesitymyths.com/myth4.1.htm

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer"
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Starvation and Hunger, Humankind's Constant Companions"
http://gherkinstomatoes.com/2009/11/10/14837/

"Stop Hunger Now"
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

[duke]

On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:25:47 -0800 (PST), "Brian Gene Kelley, PhD"
<metali...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
>Anyone can say that. Even demons can say it through people whom they
>have possessed

Amen to that.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

duke wrote:

> someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33) wrote:
>
> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.

Lie.

The following religious Christian children can't though they wanted to
in order to get extra pieces of candy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

> > Even demons can say it through people whom they
> > have possessed

Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD" and do so when
there has been a failure to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the
heart which is deceitfully wicked (Jeremiah 17:9) in allowing them to
abide there.

> Amen to that.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is reminded that Jesus
rescuing His sheep who had wandered (Matthew 15:24) by casting out the
demons that possessed them is different from His saving the souls of
the religious like Nicodemus who needed to be born again (John 3:3 &
5) to become new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by GOD.

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)

wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung is claiming that besides Jesus Christ, Andrew B. Chung
> is the only true living human Bible teacher;

Lie.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not made that claim
for he is not a Bible teacher simply because physicians are by
definition not Bible teachers though the Great Physician is also the
Great Bible Teacher. Just as your church is not the Church (Matthew
16:18) Christ is building, your Bible teacher is not the Great Bible
Teacher, and your lord (satan) is not LORD Almighty GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f26f91ad51db396?

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)

wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> post a link to an interpreter/teacher of Scripture whom Andrew B.
> Chung doesn't consider to be false?

It really wouldn't be interesting to the discerning.

Any born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Bible teacher who truthfully says they
are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

Here is a link to the written words of Apostle Paul, who is one such
example of a truthful Bible teacher:

http://t.co/5UPcZDxa

Here is a link to the Facebook page of another:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1286670144

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a0602460d126e75e?

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)

wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

[Great Sage Itchy]

Speaking of "Overturning false doctrine"...

[Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

Dodi Westman wrote:
> Moo wrote:
>
> > The 2KG-0MER Method is the best.
> > I have enjoyed endlessly wonderful results with it for several years now
>
> > > Fred Farcus wrote:
>
> > >> Yes indeed! The 2KG-0MER Method is the *only* way to eat
> > >> properly
>
> > > Right you are Fred!
>
> I have been applying the 2KG-0MER Method for over a year now. 2 kg is
> the right amount of daily food intake in my opinion. I am wonderfully
> full without being hungry! :-)

Indeed, it is smarter to hold to the right amount, which is 2
kilograms (4.4 lbs/70 oz) of daily food, thereby stopping the
undereating without harmfully overeating.

Yes, right amount: 2KG-0MER Method control as
Fred Farcus, MOO, **and** Dodi Westman are doing is both sophisticated

and smarter:-)))

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/ef05ac78d97a3894?hl=en

**and**

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7aaeb7940626693fa418a1eab2291f6.81

Be fuller, which really is wonderfully healthier:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thediethound/blog/2009/06/28/fat-people-are-much-healthier-than-thin-people

Because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart, that all
have a full stomach.

--

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

"Myth: You Can't Be Overweight and Healthy"
http://www.obesitymyths.com/myth4.1.htm

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer"
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Starvation and Hunger, Humankind's Constant Companions"
http://gherkinstomatoes.com/2009/11/10/14837/

"Stop Hunger Now"
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

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Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".

Anyone can say that. Even demons can say it through people whom they
have possessed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

**again**

Anyone can say insincerely say "Jesus is Lord".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpH28urOlqE

***and***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

"To avoid being influenced by false doctrine is, number one:
Be on guard against a loner when it comes to Biblical interpretation.
People who say that they have the truth and they're alone in it and
they're creating new ideas. A lone individual who claims to have some
kind of revelation which is actually false doctrine blended with
truth. We have to be careful of these individuals who claim to have
the Holy Spirit, but they are out of harmony with historic true
doctrine.

Second, become a good student of Scripture... with other Bible
studying Christians. Not alone only. It's not wrong to study the
Scriptures alone, but studying with other Bible studying Christians,
interacting with other Bible studying Christians, mentors, on full
time regular basis, in order to avoid some kind of strange

interpretation of Scripture." Dr. Gene Getz
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/renewal-radio/

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

Q: Does the Bible say we can tell if someone is or isn't a Christian
by whether or not they will say "Jesus is Lord?"

A: People who teach that this is a litmus test for someone being a
true disciple of Christ, that the person saying the words is saved,
are clearly misunderstanding a certain verse and the context in which
it is being used. The verse is found in 1 Corinthians 12:3 and says,
"Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of
God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except
by the Holy Spirit." (NKJV)

However, I believe the Living Bible, in this instance, actually words
the verse in the way Paul intended. It says, "...no one can say,
"Jesus is Lord", AND REALLY MEAN IT, unless the Holy Spirit is helping
him (emphasis mine).

In context, Paul is speaking about how to recognize FALSE TEACHERS.

He is *not* saying a false teacher is unable to say the words "Jesus
is Lord".

On the contrary, this happens numerous times each day. You would be
amazed at how many times I personally have witnessed false
teachers,false Christians, repeating the words written in 1 Cor 12:3b.
A
cultist for example i.e. Latter Day Saints, will confess "Jesus is
Lord" but, but go on to teach about a Jesus that is totally than the
Jesus of the Bible, as Paul gave warning about in Galatians 1:6-12.

What Paul is saying in 1 Corinthians 12:3b is, that we will recognize
a false teacher, not because he can or can't say the exact words
"Jesus is Lord", but because his teaching will not be consistent with
the teachings in the Bible that tells us who Jesus truly is.

As stated above, "he won't really mean" what he has confessed, because
his false teachings will give him away.

There are thousands (likely millions) of people who have called upon
the Lord while repeating a prayer given to them to repeat to be saved
(Romans 10:13) and said the words "Jesus is Lord", and yet remain
unsaved.

Why?

Because salvation is more than just repeating words. It is about
actually truly believing that Jesus is LORD. It is about believing
that He arose from the dead (Romans 10:9)

It is about confessing that we are sinners who are in need of a
Savior.

It is about trusting in Jesus alone and surrendering our life to Him,
as our Lord.

... Finally it is about REPENTANCE. That is where the problem comes in
for many who are persuaded to say the words "Jesus is Lord". They say
the words, but are unwilling to turn away from the sins they've asked
to be saved from, and to go in an opposite new direction away from
those sins.

Jesus also gave us two parables in the Bible that we need to keep in
mind.
In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord,
Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of
My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and
done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them,
I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice
lawlessness!" (NKJV)

Notice, these people who are calling Jesus "Lord". The prophesied,
cast out demons, and did wonderful works using the name of Jesus as
Lord. However, Jesus says, He never knew them, and likewise, they
never knew Him. They called Him Lord, but didn't really surrender to
His Lordship. They were false"Christians".False disciples, teachers,
prophets and apostles, pretending to be of Christ.

The same is true of the "Parable of the Ten Virgins" found in Matthew
25:1-13.

Half of the virgins confessed Jesus as "Lord", but were not allowed
into the wedding banquet. Jesus said to then as well, "I do not know
you." (NKJV)

Friend, I have seen people try over and over to persuade someone to
just repeat after them, the words "Jesus is Lord", to test weather or
not that person is a Christian and has salvation. We should not not be
making that judgement call based on if someone simply repeats the
words. We should be testing their words and actions against everything
the Bible says a Christian is. And it says a lot about it for example,
the books of 1 and 2 John also give you a list of things to look out
for "so that you may know that you have eternal life." (1 John 5:13).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL7AhTdZHas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpH28urOlqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]

[Brian Gene Kelley, PhD]

[Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD]