On 11/21/2011 2:41 PM, Jimmy Alpha GeD wrote:
> On 11/21/2011 1:54 PM, Rod wrote:
>> On 11/21/2011 12:18 PM, Jimmy Alpha GeD wrote:
>>> On 11/21/2011 12:44 PM, Rod wrote:
>>>> On 11/21/2011 9:55 AM, Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>> On 11/21/2011 10:26 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
>>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Rod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blotted from God's Book of Life?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Then Peter (in the Holy Spirit) said, 'Ananias, how is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> satan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> land?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sold,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to GOD.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seized all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who heard what had happened." (Acts 5:3-5)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone find where in that passage it says Ananias' name was
>>>>>>>>>>>> blotted from the Lamb's Book of Life?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't, but then dropping dead at the Presence of God
>>>>>>>>>>> is more than enough for the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, there is no reason for someone to drop dead in the
>>>>>>>>>> presence of
>>>>>>>>>> GOD if their name were still in His Book of Life. Think about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everyone who dies is in the presence's of God, even a sparrow
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> fall on the ground without the Father.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this context, dying in the presence of GOD means dying before
>>>>>>>> someone who is in the Holy Spirit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pardon? Again andypoo you make it up as you go to fit your own
>>>>>>> agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lol, I have a Bible, please point me to passages where dying in the
>>>>> presence of GOD means dying before someone who is in the Holy Spirit?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod chose to write the phrase "dying in the presence of GOD" to
>>>>>> denote
>>>>>> "dying before someone in the Holy Spirit." The Holy Spirit is GOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> What Rod said above makes not a hill of beans for truth if it can't be
>>>>> backed up with the Bible. It is much like the omer diet, an opine.
>>>>
>>>> I said that in response to the story about Ananias. There is NO reason
>>>> to lie to God. Should Ananias have spoken the truth to God
>>>> he well might have been fine, and received valuable advice from
>>>> God. Perhaps his wife also might have lived.
>>>
>>> A sin unto death is not an unpardonable sin.
>>
>> Who is feeding you this heresy ? You had better get a new preacher,
>> one that clearly understands the bible. If your last act is a sin,
>> and you die as Ananias and his wife did, without the chance to
>> repent of it, then THAT SIN is not pardoned! Once you are dead,
>> it is TO LATE to repent of a sin!
>>
>> 1John_5:16 (KJV) If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto
>> death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not
>> unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray
>> for it.
>>
>>
>> Take the lesson of Ananias and learn from it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Everlasting life does not
>>> end with a sin.
>>
>> Everlasting life is not granted for sinning either Jimmy;
>>
>> If Ananias and his wife had ever had everlasting life,
>> they lost it with unrepented sin. What they did was
>> a mortal sin, as described above in 1 John 5:16.
>>
>> The once saved always saved theology is baloney. Can I
>> prove it ? Yes, with scripture:
>>
>> 2Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they
>> allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those
>> that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
>>
>> 2Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the
>> servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he
>> brought in bondage.
>>
>> 2Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world
>> through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are
>> again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them
>> than the beginning.
>>
>> 2Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of
>> righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy
>> commandment delivered unto them.
>>
>> and if this isn't enough....:
>>
>> Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened,
>> and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the
>> Holy Ghost,
>>
>> Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the
>> world to come,
>>
>> Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto
>> repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and
>> put him to an open shame.
>>
>> Hebrews 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft
>> upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed,
>> receiveth blessing from God:
>>
>> Hebrews 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is
>> nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
>>
>>
>> and more yet:
>>
>>
>> Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without
>> wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
>>
>> Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and
>> to good works:
>>
>> Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the
>> manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as
>> ye see the day approaching.
>>
>> Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the
>> knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
>>
>> Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery
>> indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
>>
>> Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two
>> or three witnesses:
>>
>> Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be
>> thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath
>> counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an
>> unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
>
> I will not even make an attempt at correcting your errors,
As I am posting FROM a acc, a Christian group, it shouldn't be to
much of a chore to edit the newsgroup pane and direct your post to acc,
but first you have to PROVE that I am in ERROR. I await your answer.
this is the
> cardiology group I'm posting within, not a Bible group.
>
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> mistaken as medical or religious advice. I'm not a real doctor nor a
> real pharmacist not even a pastor, just poster with opinions.
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