Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: the deepening despair of non-christians
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0b616720f120fe29?
Suggested reading as an aid to understanding what you are witnessing:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets
The Official SMC FAQ List:
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Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
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Board-certified Cardiologist
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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
- - -
For all of the God, Lord, almighty, Jesus, Christ,
angels, spirits, demons, devil, satan, prophets,
heavens, hells, and other assertions of activities,
demands, expectations, requirements, deeds,
beliefs, magic places, magic beings, and other
perspectives in the christian bible ...
If you accepted the position of disbelievers that
all of that was mythical, rather than reality at play,
would the christian bible then become loaded
with passages like the following?
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Genesis 1:1 In the [supposed] beginning, ___
created the ____ and the earth.
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Beginning? What beginning and by what know-
ledge is the writer asserting these things? Who
is the writer?
Once you enter the doubt/disbelief realm, the
ancient writings take on an entirely different
characteristic than they do when encapsulated
and surrounded with the pretense that they're
actualized communication between some other-
world and this one.
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You should always ask yourself:
1) Who is speaking, and why should we believe
him/her/them?
2) Motivation, what was it for the writer(s) of the
scripts at issue?
3) Claims, do claims a verity make?
4) Superstition, is humankind well-served to follow
superstition in the modern day?
5) Persons speaking as if they speak for a God, in
times past -and- in times present, what differen-
tiates the veritable God-claimants from the un-
veritable ones? In other words, if all every single
God claimant has going for him/her is claim, why
believe *any* God claim?
6) What's the logic in a God who asks you to harm
your fellow humans, a God who harms your fellow
humans, and a God who asks you to save your
fellow humans from a God devoted to harming
your fellow humans if they don't jump through
the claimed 'right' hoops?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/82d3246fbd6b4ab9?
>
>For all of the God, Lord, almighty, Jesus, Christ,
>angels, spirits, demons, devil, satan, prophets,
>heavens, hells, and other assertions of activities,
>demands, expectations, requirements, deeds,
>beliefs, magic places, magic beings, and other
>perspectives in the christian bible ...
>
>If you accepted the position of disbelievers that
>all of that was mythical, rather than reality at play,
>would the christian bible then become loaded
>with passages like the following?
There really is no need to rewrite the Bible.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Bottomline
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Pro-Humanist, so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Human Geneticist and Molecular Biologist
http://EmoryCardiologist.com
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
>
>
> Suggested reading as an aid to understanding what you are witnessing:
--
David Silverman
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Defender of Civilisation
if a tree falls in the woods, what are the odds it will land in some bear
shit ?
Not authentic without this signature.
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
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>
> Truth is simple :-)
panam...@hotmail.com
> It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WIJ.com>, and he
> posteth:
>
> http://www.active.com/results/display_html.cfm?CHECKSSO=0&RESET=0&RES...
Maybe he'd do better if he ate more often. Or maybe he's been up all
night diddling the bored fat chicks at his diet guru seminars.
> > Truth is simple :-)
>
> http://www.quackwatch.com
Indeed.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
.
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
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There were a total of -10- questions in the previous
post. You answered -0- of them. Try again:
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For all of the God, Lord, almighty, Jesus, Christ,
angels, spirits, demons, devil, satan, prophets,
heavens, hells, and other assertions of activities,
demands, expectations, requirements, deeds,
beliefs, magic places, magic beings, and other
perspectives in the christian bible ...
If you accepted the position of disbelievers that
all of that was mythical, rather than reality at play,
would the christian bible then become loaded
with passages like the following?
- - -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> There were a total of -10- questions in the previous
> post. You answered -0- of them. Try again:
Not even an infinite number of answers to an infinite number of
questions is going to help you publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
Bottom line concerning you and other non-christians:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Bottomline
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Pro-Humanist, so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Human Geneticist and Molecular Biologist
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
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(Top Posts - Social/Legal - 010105)
Believe it or not, in the following article, some religious
followers (a Jewish Rabbi and a Christian) have stated
that God did it to spite the world (Jewish Rabbi's view)
or to spite non-Christians (view of a Christian).
Some Hindu organizations view it as God's retribution
for the arrest of a Hindu leader.
A Muslim views it as a test of faith.
Others (like some Buddhists) view the event as natur-
alistic.
A Lutheran Christian offers distance from trying to asso-
ciate the act with God being causal in any discernable
way, while at the same time asserting that "God, some-
how, is a presence in all of this."
---
Seeking the Hand of God in the Waters
By Jose Antonio Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 31, 2004; Page C01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37677-2004Dec30.html
---
Complete article:
Let's turn to history.
The date: Nov. 1, 1755.
The time: past 9 a.m. on All Saints' Day, a Catholic
holiday.
The scene: Lisbon, the devoutly Catholic capital
of the devoutly Catholic Portuguese empire, shook
-- first a big earthquake, then a big tsunami, then
a big fire.
More than 100,000 people died.
The pious ones of the 18th century, clinging to their
merciful and omniscient and just God, asked in awe:
Was He angry? Was this His will? Was this His reac-
tion to an ill, sinful world?
Three centuries pass and here we are. In a world of
Muslims and Christians and Jews and Hindus and
Buddhists, with the disaster in South Asia so far claim-
ing more than 110,000 lives -- many of them children --
folks all over the world, in all places of worship, are
pondering similar questions.
On the Web site IslamOnline.net, someone from Bel-
gium asked the geologist Zaghloul el Naggar: "Is there
any religious meaning that we can take from a country
being affected by tidal waves? Is this a punishment
from Allah to these people? Or is it a test? How do we
know when a form of natural disaster or phenomenon
is a test or a form of punishment from Allah to the
people?"
Shlomo Amar, Israel's Sephardi chief rabbi, has said,
"This is an expression of God's great ire with the world.
The world is being punished for wrongdoing -- be it
people's needless hatred of each other, lack of char-
ity, moral turpitude."
Some organizations in India say the tsunami is "divine
retribution" for the arrest of Jayendra Saraswati, a Hindu
religious leader.
Since Sunday, those of different faiths have sought
their own meaning, and some kind of explanation, for
such a massive loss of life.
On his Web site Watch.org, Bill Koenig writes: "The
Biblical proportions of this disaster become clearly
apparent upon reports of miraculous Christian sur-
vival.
Christian persecution in these countries is some of
the worst in the world." Eight of the 12 countries hit
-- Malaysia, Burma, Bangladesh, Somalia, Maldives,
Sri Lanka, India and Indonesia, he says -- "are among
the top 50 nations who persecute Christians."
Koenig, who lives in Alexandria and started the site
in 1996, sees the South Asian disaster as an example
of Christian exceptionalism. "What happened, and we
see this happen over and over again, was that Chris-
tians, supernaturally, have been able to escape from
harm's way," says the self-described Christian funda-
mentalist. "
'For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not
been since the beginning of the world until this time, no,
not ever shall be,' " he says, quoting from Matthew 24:21.
Mahdi Bray, a Muslim cleric, is the executive director
of the Freedom Foundation, a public affairs arm of the
Muslim American Society, a national grass-roots reli-
gious, social and educational organization based in
Washington. He quotes the Bible, too, a psalm which
says, "Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh
in the morning." There is a similar passage in the Koran,
he adds, "Verily with every difficulty there is relief."
"This is a test" of people's faith, he says again and again.
Sutadhara Tapovanaye, a Buddhist monk for 38 of his
48 years, tries to explain it differently. This, he says, is
a part of life, the dynamics of nature, an always-changing
world.
On Wednesday night, in a tearful memorial service at the
Sri Lankan Embassy, he was asked to say a few words.
"It was difficult," he remembers.
He arrived in the District two months ago for a year-long
sabbatical at the Washington Buddhist Vihara Society.
"According to Buddhist explanations, life is very short,"
says the linguistics teacher at Kelaniya University in Sri
Lanka. "It is like a dream, but I never expected a night-
mare like this.
"Now, in Sri Lanka, human bodies are piling up and with
no identities. Nobody can recognize bodies as a part of
any ethnic group or religious identification. Just human
bodies. The medical workers give a number for each
body," he says. "That means, we have to think about
this death as inevitable, but at the same time, we have
to rethink about life. Though we have different barriers
-- man-made barriers, actually -- the reality is beyond
that."
Martin E. Marty, professor emeritus of religious history
at the University of Chicago, has written his 55th book,
"When Faiths Collide," which he says should land in
bookstores this week.
He's been an ordained Lutheran minister since 1952.
"It's only natural to repose yourself in the will of God,"
he says. "If you're a believer, then you must believe
that God, somehow, is a presence in all of this. But
God didn't tell anybody that you go through life with-
out disasters."
Still, talk of religion's role in the disaster irks Marty.
Following the devastation in Lisbon in 1755, priests
roamed the streets, hanging those they believed
had incurred God's wrath. That event "shook the
modern world," he notes, changing people's idea
of a benevolent, all-caring God.
"In each act of nature -- your insurance calls it an
act of God -- when people are precise in knowing
that this is God's will, they're creating great trouble
for themselves and others. You have to say that
God is playing favorites. You're thinking, 'If I were
spared this time, then when disaster comes next
time, I'd have to blame it on God.' "
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Believe it or not, in the following article, some religious
>followers (a Jewish Rabbi and a Christian) have stated
>that God did it to spite the world (Jewish Rabbi's view)
>or to spite non-Christians (view of a Christian).
>
>Some Hindu organizations view it as God's retribution
>for the arrest of a Hindu leader.
>
>A Muslim views it as a test of faith.
>
>Others (like some Buddhists) view the event as natur-
>alistic.
>
>A Lutheran Christian offers distance from trying to asso-
>ciate the act with God being causal in any discernable
>way, while at the same time asserting that "God, some-
>how, is a presence in all of this."
The best perspective is GOD's perspective:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/good
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Pro-Humanist, so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist,
Computer Programmer, Electrical Engineer,
and Board-certified Cardiologist :-)
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
Tsunami Reactions of Fear, Faith Doubt,
Clerics, Beyond Belief
(Top Posts - Social/Legal - 010305)
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Fear - "Run, the sea is coming!"
God of death?
Jan. 4, 2005
How Mohan saved his fishing village
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Asia-Tsunami/How-Mohan-saved-his-fishing-village/2005/01/03/1104601294395.html
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Excerpts:
...
"Run, the sea is coming!" His cry saved the people
of Puthukuppam, a small Indian village 20 kilometres
outside the former French colony of Pondicherry.
None of the boats survived the December 26 tsunami.
Only a dozen of 60 homes remain standing.
But none of the 300 villagers died.
...
"We cannot go back on the beach," another young
fishermen called Kandhan said. "The sea was god,
today it's Yaman [the god of death]."
...
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Faith Doubt - Tsunami disaster challenges faith
January 4, 2005
Letters to the Editor
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,59-1424918,00.html
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Excerpts:
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Professor Emeritus Anthony Ralston
Sir, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks (Comment, "Why
does God allow terrible things to happen to
His people?", January 1) makes as good a
case as can be made that, by setting "life
within the parameters of the physical", God,
in effect, allows disasters such as the tsu-
nami ... to occur. At the same time Dr Sacks
sanctions "prayers for the injured and the
bereaved".
But it is the inconceivability of a God who
both allows cataclysms and listens to indivi-
dual prayers, with no credible evidence that
He does either, that continually swells the
ranks of agnostics and atheists.
...
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From Dr David Ashton
...
If God cares about his creation and is supremely
powerful, then presumably he could have made
the world otherwise.
Moreover, the idea that natural disasters result
from random events in a Universe wholly indiffer-
ent to us is surely less distressing than the idea
that they could have been prevented by a deity
who - for some inexplicable reason - chose
not to act.
Epicurus remains unanswered:
Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence comes evil?
...
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Clerics - God's tsunami role has clerics divided
God did it? Opinions on the matter are wide-
ranging, including the following from religious
leaders:
o It's a warning from God, that "judgement is
coming" (Christian)
o It's God's will (Muslim)
o It's under God's sovereignty but it's nature,
and God didn't do it, as nature isn't under
God's sovereignty, or at least, God is un-
willing to take credit for sending this par-
ticular tsunami (Christian)
o It's presumptuous to speak for God, these
days, as that task for eternity was accom-
plished back when the [so-called] holy
documents were written (Christian) [the
'real' ones, not the ones that were just
pretend, and how one can tell the differ-
ence, that's mysterious, as tons of so-
called holy documents were written, as
God claims were as profuse in ancient
times as they are today]
o Tragedies, like the tsunami, are part of
God's plan, and it's the final result that
counts (Jewish)
o The tsunami was "part of the collective
karma of the universe, and could be a
catalyst for peace, harmony and gener-
osity ... it's, for humans, like someone
sweeping their driveway is for hundreds
of ants killed in the process - that kind of
stuff happens all the time ... it's part of
the purification of negative karma. It is
not the karma of those individuals or pun-
ishment by a super-being." (Buddhist)
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By Barney Zwartz
Religion Editor
January 4, 2005
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Asia-tsunami/Gods-role-has-clerics-divided/2005/01/03/1104601296219.html
---
Complete article:
In churches, mosques and temples around Australia,
as worshippers struggle to make sense of the tsunami
disaster in south Asia, their religious leaders have no
glib answers.
But they were divided about God's responsibility yes-
terday, with some seeing it as a divine warning and
others as simply an act of nature.
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Sydney's controversial Anglican Dean, Phillip Jensen,
suggested it was God's warning that judgement was
coming, a view echoed yesterday by Melbourne's
most prominent Muslim leader, Sheikh Fehmi Naji al-
Imam of the Preston mosque.
"We don't understand God's will but we accept it,"
Sheikh Fehmi said.
"Islam says disaster comes from time to time to warn
people and shake them up, make them realise they
have left God too far behind."
Dean Jensen was unavailable yesterday, but South
Sydney Bishop Robert Forsyth amplified his remarks.
"Everything that happens is under the sovereignty of
God, yes. But did God say 'I'll send a tsunami today'?
No. This event, though terrible, is a natural event,"
Bishop Forsyth said.
Melbourne Anglican Archbishop Peter Watson said the
Christian response was to reach out with compassion
and care, but it would be presumptuous to speak for
God. "The prophets of old were able to say 'thus says
the Lord', and their words were put into holy writ - and
they said some unpopular things - but we can't stand
where they stood."
- - -
Rabbi Mordechai Gutnick, president of the Organisation
of Rabbis of Australia, said to question God was to
question with our finite minds His infinite wisdom. "What
we consider tragedies are part of His plan, and the final
result is what counts."
He said when Moses asked God why He allowed the
Jews to suffer in slavery, God replied that He revealed
himself in different ways. "The Jewish people in the
crucible of Egyptian slavery found the basis of what we
now call the Judeo-Christian ethic."
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Buddhist leader Venerable Lama Choedak Rinpoche
also suggested the good might eventually outweigh the
bad.
He said the tsunami was part of the collective karma
of the universe, and could be a catalyst for peace,
harmony and generosity.
"To us it seems very big, but when people sweep their
driveway they kill hundreds of ants without calling it a
tsunami. That kind of suffering and turbulence are hap-
pening all the time, and Buddha's explanation is purifi-
cation of negative karma. It is not the karma of those
individuals or punishment by a super-being."
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Beyond Belief - A human strategy for survival
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January 4, 2005
by Paul Valent
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Opinion/Beyond-belief-a-human-strategy-for-survival/2005/01/03/1104601291830.html
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Excerpt:
Where was God during the tsunami? Where is God
in Darfur? Where was God in Rwanda? Cambodia?
The Holocaust?
My own religious phase ended when my father, the
only one of nine siblings who survived the Holocaust,
died 12 years later of prolonged, painful cancer.
I then joined the majority of Holocaust survivors who
abandoned belief in God. No believer has been able
to convince me since then of the existence of a just,
benevolent God.
It seems hard to accept the self-evident logic: there
is no benevolent God guiding human affairs. Some
may fear a chaotic amoral universe without God. I do
not believe that the fear is justified. On the contrary,
a scientific view of disasters diminishes their chaos,
and may even give clues to the origins of morality
and religion.
...
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Seeking the Hand of God in the Waters?
http://fire.prohosting.com/prohuman/social_legal/hand_of_god_in_the_waters.htm
Yap
wrote:
Their stupid god which cares only for the braindead so-called
christian?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Tsunami Reactions of Fear, Faith Doubt,
> Clerics, Beyond Belief
> (Top Posts - Social/Legal - 010305)
>
> - - -
> Fear - "Run, the sea is coming!"
> God of death?
No.
Running away from GOD and into sin leads to death.
"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
James
>Re: Nature of the biblical God claims
Hello,
Yes, using some of your 'logic' above, who would want to serve such a
god. But is the Bible God REALLY that way?
If you work at a secular job, do you 'jump through their claimed right
hoops?' Don't confuse an orderly beneficial way of doing things, from
those that have an adverse hidden agenda, etc.
But any assertions I say about the Bible you will no doubt only
consider as opinion. So let's just stay with some facts.
It is only in recent times that humans have reached orbital flight,
and thus are able to see the earth as it looks from space. Yet the
Bible shows the same picture.
For example, around 2000 years before the time of Columbus, and when
there were all kinds of mythological descriptions concerning the
earth, such as the ancient Hindu writings of the Ramayana which says
that it rested on the back of a giant turtle supported by 8 elephants,
etc, a Hebrew prophet wrote in Isaiah 40:22,
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,..." (NIV)
The Hebrew word used here for "circle" is "hhug" which according to
some Hebrew scholars also has the meaning of "sphere". (for example
see: "A Concordance of the Hebrew and Chaldee Scriptures by B.
Davidson")
Some other Bible translations therefore say, "the globe of the earth"
(Douay Version) and, "the round earth." (Moffatt).
Also, out of the Book of Job comes the statement at Job 26:7,
"He stretches out the north over the void, and hangs the earth upon
nothing." (RSV)
So the Bible in its poetic style, describes the earth as a circular
sphere 'hanging' upon "nothing" (floating) in a "void" (space). Sounds
familiar, doesn't it. Since orbital flight was not around back then,
how could they have known such things?
Even many of hundreds of years later from the writing of the book of
Job, the wise man Aristotle still believed things in the heavens were
attached to supports, not just floating there. Yet the Bible said the
earth "hangs...upon nothing." Pretty good 'guess' about such things,
if the Bible is only a fabrication of men, is it not?
Sincerely, James
If you wish to have a discussion with me, please use email since I do
not follow all conversations in ng threads
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> >"Pro-Humanist FREELOVER" <prohuman...@ghg.net>
Yes, lets.
The central tome of Christian mythology is not an accurate
representation of history, but a record of the collision of ancient
paganism with the strange new Bronze Age concept called monotheism.
http://tinyurl.com/2vhs39
http://tinyurl.com/2kg43d
http://tinyurl.com/3ay5hm
http://tinyurl.com/2wskdr
"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of fact,
history, and pizza." --Penn Jillette.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
James, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> James wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c698c2064db88879?
>
>Yes, lets.
>
>The central tome of Christian mythology is not an accurate
>representation of history, but a record of the collision of ancient
>paganism with the strange new Bronze Age concept called monotheism.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2vhs39
>http://tinyurl.com/2kg43d
>http://tinyurl.com/3ay5hm
>http://tinyurl.com/2wskdr
>
>"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of fact,
>history, and pizza." --Penn Jillette.
>
>-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c698c2064db88879?
>>
>>Yes, lets.
>>
>>The central tome of Christian mythology is not an accurate
>>representation of history, but a record of the collision of ancient
>>paganism with the strange new Bronze Age concept called monotheism.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/2vhs39
>>http://tinyurl.com/2kg43d
>>http://tinyurl.com/3ay5hm
>>http://tinyurl.com/2wskdr
>>
>>"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of fact,
>>history, and pizza." --Penn Jillette.
>>
>>-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>
> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Anybody can say that, regardless of whether or not it is true. I did, and I
will do so again soon and post it on Youtube again.
Andrew, can you publicly say "Mary had a little lamb"?
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
Muslims, at least, are 66.67% right: There is no God.
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> James wrote:
Andrew, can you publicly say "I need haloperidol"?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> James wrote:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c698c2064db88879?
> >>
> >>Yes, lets.
> >>
> >>The central tome of Christian mythology is not an accurate
> >>representation of history, but a record of the collision of ancient
> >>paganism with the strange new Bronze Age concept called monotheism.
> >>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/2vhs39
> >>http://tinyurl.com/2kg43d
> >>http://tinyurl.com/3ay5hm
> >>http://tinyurl.com/2wskdr
> >>
> >>"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of fact,
> >>history, and pizza." --Penn Jillette.
> >>
> >>-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
> >
> > Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
> Anybody can say that, regardless of whether or not it is true.
Incorrect.
There have been plenty of Usenet examples of those who can't:
(1) Jimmy Alpha
(2) Kelly
(3) Vera
(4) Randy
(5) Pastor Dave
(6) Monkfish
(7) Don Kirkman ...
May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
Set foot on British soil and repeat that, I dare you - I double dare you -
and see what happens next.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
You know in your heart that nothing can stop the Holy Spirit, Who is
GOD.
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
So put your air fares where your keyboard is already. It's a challenge, Let
me know what flight you're on and I'll arrange the welcoming party.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The Holy Spirit is already there else you would not have been able to
publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
Your being tormented by satan remains a spiritual matter that does not
require the physical presence of this disciple of Jesus to effect an
exorcism.
Again, may GOD drive satan out of you, David.
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> David Silverman while being tormented by satan despairingly wrote:
Spirit Schmirit, you aren't. When are you booking the flight?
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> David Silverman while being tormented by satan despairingly wrote:
What a fucking cop-out! IOW, you have, out of fear and trepidation,
weaseled out of your own challenge.
Thought you would. What a pity, I had such a reception planned for you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Bottom line:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine
>>>>>> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Set foot on British soil and repeat that, I dare you - I double dare you -
>>>>> and see what happens next.
>>>>
>>>> You know in your heart that nothing can stop the Holy Spirit, Who is
>>>> GOD.
>>>
>>> So put your air fares where your keyboard is already. It's a challenge, Let
>>> me know what flight you're on and I'll arrange the welcoming party.
>>
>> The Holy Spirit is already there else you would not have been able to
>> publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>>
>> Your being tormented by satan remains a spiritual matter that does not
>> require the physical presence of this disciple of Jesus to effect an
>> exorcism.
>
> What a fucking cop-out! IOW, you have, out of fear and trepidation,
> weaseled out of your own challenge.
Your being tormented by satan is your challenge not mine.
> Thought you would. What a pity, I had such a reception planned for you.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly reveal how much you fear this disciple of Jesus.
Your irrational fear is a manifestation of satan being within you.
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > James wrote:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c698c2064db88879?
> >
> >Yes, lets.
> >
> >The central tome of Christian mythology is not an accurate
> >representation of history, but a record of the collision of ancient
> >paganism with the strange new Bronze Age concept called monotheism.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/2vhs39
> >http://tinyurl.com/2kg43d
> >http://tinyurl.com/3ay5hm
> >http://tinyurl.com/2wskdr
> >
> >"It's fair to say that the Bible contains equal amounts of fact,
> >history, and pizza." --Penn Jillette.
> >
> >-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>
> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
One can say"Jesus is LORD" as easily as one can say "Jesus is dead",
but there is no point in saying it unless "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD", or
someone else , makes it worth while by putting up some money or other
valuable consideration as incentive.
Well, Chung?
--
Virgil
Sanity's Little Helper
Making him look a twat was sufficient reward for me. Guess I'm not a greedy
person.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?"
(WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus (T3WIJ):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
Virgil
<4d0fb5f9-b76e-4b50...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> You know in your heart that nothing can stop the Holy Spirit
Being, at least nominally a cardiologist, does not give "ANDREW B.
CHUNG, MD/PHD" any insight to what others know in their hearts, and he
seems to get such things totally wrong at every opportunity
--
Virgil
Virgil
<9b9732dc-8f99-42d1...@l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> The Holy Spirit is already there else you would not have been able to
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
Anyone can say that, but it takes more courage thtn "ANDREW B. CHUNG,
MD/PHD" has to say "Jesus is dead", though it is at least as true.
>
> Your being tormented by satan
Why should anyone be tormented by myths they do not believe in?
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> >> Your being tormented by satan remains a spiritual matter that does not
> >> require the physical presence of this disciple of Jesus to effect an
> >> exorcism.
> >
> > What a fucking cop-out! IOW, you have, out of fear and trepidation,
> > weaseled out of your own challenge.
>
> Your being tormented by satan is your challenge not mine.
No one is being tormented by your beliefs, "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD",
except you.
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> you to unwittingly reveal how much you fear this disciple of Jesus.
The only fear anyone might have of "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD" is that his
insanity is catching.
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
> 2009th year
Buddha is older, and wiser, than ABC's delusions.
--
Virgil
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
"James" <bir...@peoplepc.com> wrote ...
> "Pro-Humanist FREELOVER" prohu...@ghg.net wrote ...
- - -
Bible and Science
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html
- - -
Excerpts:
Genesis
...
God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the
second day) working on a solid firmament. This strange
structure, which God calls heaven, is intended to separate
the higher waters from the lower waters. 1:6-8
...
Joshua
...
In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the
sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done
before dark. 10:12-13
...
1 Samuel
"The pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set
the world upon them. 2:8
...
2 Samuel
...
"There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of
his mouth." What happens when God gets mad? The earth
shakes, the foundations of heaven move, smoke comes out
of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth."22:8-9
"The foundations of the world were discovered ... at the blast
of the breath of his nostrils." 22:16
...
2 Kings
...
Isaiah, with a little help from God, makes the sun move
backwards ten degrees. Now that's quite a trick. All at
once, the earth stopped spinning and then reversed its
direction of rotation. Or maybe the sun traveled around
the earth in those days! 20:11
...
Job
The earth rests upon pillars and doesn't move (unless God gets
angry or something). 9:6
"Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not."
The earth is fixed and the sun travels about it. 9:7
"The measure thereof is longer than the earth."
(What is the length of a sphere?) 11:9
Heaven is set upon pillars that tremble when God gets mad. 26:11
"By the breath of God frost is given." 37:10
The earth is set on foundations and it does not move. 38:4-6
"That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked
might be shaken out of it." God could (if he wanted to) pick up
the earth by its ends and shake all the wicked people off of it. 38:13
God has snow and hail all stored up to use later "in time of trouble. 38:22
God spread out the sky, which is a solid structure, hard and strong
like a mirror. 37:18
...
Psalms
...
The earth shakes whenever God really gets mad. 18:7
"The foundations of the world were discovered ... at the blast of the
breath of thy nostrils." (The earth is set on firm foundations and does
not move -- unless God blows his nose.) 18:15
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth
his handywork." 19:1
The sun moves around the earth. 19:4-6
From his seat in heaven, God can see the whole earth and all its
inhabitants. (He sits directly above the earth, which is a flat disc
below him.) 33:14-15
...
"Thou has set all the borders of the earth"
A spherical earth has no borders. 74:17
God holds the earth up with pillars. 75:3
Another reference to "the foundations of the earth", implying that the
earth is fixed and does not move. 82:5
...
"The world also is established, that it cannot be moved." 93:1
"The world also shall be established that it shall not be moved." 96:10
...
"God ... who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain" (The earth is
stationary and does not orbit the sun.) 104:5
...
- - -
The Firmament
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/topics/firmament.html
In the Bible, the firmament is a solid, dome-shaped structure in which
the stars were placed. It separated the waters below from the waters
above. Windows in the firmament were opened whenever it rained.
Verses in the KJV that refer to the firmament:
Gen.1:6-8, 1:14-15, 1:17, 1:20
Ps.19:1, 150:1
Ezek.1:22-26, 10:1
Dan.12:3
- - -
Ecclesiastes
"The sun also ariseth" Although this verse is interpreted figuratively
today, it was taken literally by virtually all Christians until the Coper-
nican revolution, and was used by the Church to condemn Galileo
for teaching the heliocentric heresy.1:5
...
Isaiah
"When he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."
(Earthquakes happen when God gets angry.) 2:19, 21
"He has stretched forth his hand against them ... and the hills did
tremble." 5:25
...
God will gather up the people of Judea "from the four corners of the
earth." In the Bible's view, the earth is flat with four corners. 11:12
According to the Bible, the moon produces its own light and the earth
does not move. 13:10
When God gets really angry, he causes earthquakes. 13:13
...
God will turn the earth upside down, knock it off of its foundations,
and then shake and bake it until it "reels to and fro like a drunkard."
24:1, 18-20
"The foundations of the earth do shake ... The earth shall reel to and
fro like a drunkard." (Earthquakes are all a part of God's wondrous
plan.) 24:18-20
...
Natural disasters (earthquakes, storms, fires, tsunamis) are caused
by, and are a sign of, God's wrath. 29:7
...
"The host of heaven shall be dissolved ... and ... shall fall down."
The stars will dissolve and fall from the sky. 34:4
"And the unicorns shall come down with them." 34:7
...
God makes the sun move backwards 10 degrees. Now that's a
neat trick! 38:8
The earth is a flat disc that God looks down upon from his throne
in heaven. 40:22
...
Jeremiah
Droughts are punishments from God. 3:3
...
When God gets angry, the earth trembles. (That's what causes
earthquakes.) 10:10
...
The earth is set on foundations and does not move. 31:37
...
Ezekiel
"The firmament ... the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their
heads above." 1:22
The world is flat and has four corners. 7:2
...
Daniel
...
The stone became "a great mountain" that "filled the whole earth."
This could only be possible on a flat, disc-shaped earth. 2:35
Daniel's tree is tall enough to be seen from "the end of all the earth."
Only on a flat earth would this be possible.4:10-11, 20
...
To Daniel, the stars are small objects that can fall from the
sky and then be "stamped upon." 8:10
...
Joel
On "the day of the Lord" there will be earthquakes, the sun and
the moon will be dark, and the stars will no longer shine. 2:10
"The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood."
These "signs" were a lot more impressive before the causes of solar
and lunar eclipses were understood. 2:31
The Lord will roar and the heavens and earth will shake. 3:16
...
Micah
...
The earth is set upon strong foundations and therefore
does not move. 6:2
...
Nahum
"The clouds are the dust of his feet." 1:3
Tornadoes, earthquakes, and fires are caused by God and
are signs of his anger. 1:5
...
Matthew
...
"The moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from
heaven." Apparently, Jesus believed that the moon produces
its own light, and that the stars are lights held in place by a
firmament only a few miles above our heads. 24:29
...
Mark
...
"In those days ... the moon shall not give her light, and the stars
of heaven shall fall." Of course this is nonsense. The billions of
stars will never fall to earth and the moon does not produce its
own light. 13:24-25
...
Luke
...
The devil takes Jesus to the top of a mountain and shows him
"all the kingdoms of the world." I guess the world was flat in those
days. 4:5
...
When Jesus was crucified, there was three hours of complete
darkness "over all the earth." It is strange that there is no record
of this extraordinary event outside of the gospels. 23:44-45
...
1 Timothy
...
Avoid science, especially that which disagrees with Paul ("science
falsely so called"). Other versions translate this phrase as "false
knowledge", which may be more correct. However many funda-
mentalist Christians still use this verse ("science falsely so called")
to justify their rejection of any idea, scientific or otherwise, they
believe contradicts the bible. 6:20
...
Hebrews
God set the earth on a foundation; therefore, it does not move. 1:10
"Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying
... I shake not the earth only, but also heaven." When God speaks
there are earthquakes (and heavenquakes). 12:26
...
Revelation
...
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth...." To John, the stars are just
little lights a few miles away that can easily fall to the earth. 6:13
John "saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth." Well,
I guess that settles it: the earth is flat and square-shaped, or at least
quadrilateral in shape. 7:1
An angel threw the censer down to earth, causing thunder, lightning, and
earthquakes. 8:5
"And there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and
it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters."
In the bible, stars are just little lights that can fall to the ground from the
sky.8:10
The fourth trumpet smites one third of the sun, moon, and stars. 8:12
"I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth." 9:1
...
panam...@hotmail.com
carved into his own flesh with his car keys:
snippay!
> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
BTDT.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v300/friedgreencorrado/?action=view¤t=P5300920.flv
Can you go back to Woodstock Baptist yet?
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ad69bf650dac45f57ef9
-PF, Atl.
etc.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
>> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
>BTDT.
Then please allow this disciple of Jesus to hear it via voice mail at
the number listed at the following web site:
(You may disable caller ID by dialing *67 before your call per Kelly's
suggestion if you are afraid of having your phone number be known by
this disciple of Jesus).
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
>
> > "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD" wrote in part:
> >
> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Command performances in "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD"'s three ring circus
are not something that one needs do for free, so until "ANDREW B. CHUNG,
MD/PHD" makes it worth our while, we do not choose to perform in his
circus.
--
Virgil
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
> >BTDT.
>
> Then please allow this disciple of Jesus to hear
snip
*This* disciple of Joest Team Audi would like free tickets to Le Mans
next year, but he ain't holdin' his breath...
Take the hint.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> Panama Floyd wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>>
>> >BTDT.
>>
>
>snip
>
>*This* disciple of Joest Team Audi would like free tickets to Le Mans
>next year, but he ain't holdin' his breath...
>Take the hint.
Sad to note that there remains no evidence that you can publicly say
"Jesus is LORD" despite your claims to the contrary.
May GOD soften your heart, Panama Floyd, so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> Panama Floyd wrote:
> >> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >>
> >> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
> >>
> >> >BTDT.
> >>
> >> Then please allow this disciple of Jesus to hear you publicly say "Jesus
> >> is LORD."
Whyever should a sane person pander to the delusions of a nut like
"ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD"?
>
> Sad to note that there remains no evidence that you can publicly say
> "Jesus is LORD" despite your claims to the contrary.
There remains no evidence that anyone needs to pander to the delusions
of such nuts as "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD".
--
Virgil
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> Panama Floyd wrote:
> >> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> >> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
> >> >BTDT.
>
> >> Then please allow this disciple of Jesus to hear you publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>
> >snip
>
> >*This* disciple of Joest Team Audi would like free tickets to Le Mans
> >next year, but he ain't holdin' his breath...
> >Take the hint.
>
> Sad to note that there remains no evidence that you can publicly say
> "Jesus is LORD" despite your claims to the contrary.
Sad to note that you are still One Crazy Motherfucker(tm), despite
your claims to the contrary.
-PF, Atl.
etc.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> Panama Floyd wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> >> Panama Floyd wrote:
>> >> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>> >> >> Panama Floyd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>>
>> >> >BTDT.
>>
>> >> Then please allow this disciple of Jesus to hear you publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>>
>> >snip
>>
>> >*This* disciple of Joest Team Audi would like free tickets to Le Mans
>> >next year, but he ain't holdin' his breath...
>> >Take the hint.
>>
>> Sad to note that there remains no evidence that you can publicly say
>> "Jesus is LORD" despite your claims to the contrary.
>
>Sad to note that you are still One Crazy Motherfucker(tm), despite
>your claims to the contrary.
Would not have an active medical license if that were true.
Bottom line concerning you and other non-christians:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine
May GOD soften your heart, PF, so that you would come to trust the
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> >Sad to note that you are still One Crazy Motherfucker(tm), despite
> >your claims to the contrary.
>
> Would not have an active medical license if that were true.
There are those, like "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD", who are reasonably sane
on most issues but mad as hatters on one subject.
The term monomaniac springs to mind.
--
Virgil
Ken
> In article <lu7m45hp6bkl6rfq2qqkafmgi9cmip7...@4ax.com>,
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> > >Sad to note that you are still One Crazy Motherfucker(tm), despite
> > >your claims to the contrary.
>
> > Would not have an active medical license if that were true.
>
> There are those, like "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD", who are reasonably sane
> on most issues but mad as hatters on one subject.
>
> The term monomaniac springs to mind.
>
> --
> Virgil
Not to mention him suffering from the debilitating effects of his OCD
.Obsessive-compulsive disorder affects roughly six million Americans.
Its symptoms, ranging from repetitive hand-washing to preoccupation
with sexual, religious, or aggressive impulses, wreak havoc in
people's lives, and often cause severe emotional and economic loss.The
sufferer feels compelled to voluntarily perform irrational, time-
consuming behaviors to diminish the anxiety
Obsessions
Recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are
experienced as intrusive and that cause marked anxiety or distress.
The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries
about real-life problems.
The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or
images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action.
The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or
images are a product of his or her own mind, and are not based in
reality.
Compulsions
Repetitive behaviors or mental acts that the person feels driven to
perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must
be applied rigidly.
The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing
distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these
behaviors or mental acts are not actually connected to the issue, or
they are excessive.
In addition to these criteria, at some point during the course of the
disorder, the individual must realize that his/her obsessions or
compulsions are unreasonable or excessive. Moreover, the obsessions or
compulsions must be time-consuming (taking up more than one hour per
day)
Chung seems to spend his entire day glued to a PC
dolf
Ken <flak...@earthlink.net>
http://kook.us/ken-kellogg.htm
Ken Kellogg aka flakey714 describes himself as, "A mostly single,
semi-retired, Californian, college educated, and loving pet owner."
He also said, "Went to SJS" (that's San Jose State) "and lived near
campus from 66-69, then lived near Eastridge for several more years, but
work (as a chemist) called me to San Leandro where I've been for some
35+ years"
And yet, Ken's obsessive and aggressive behavior in newsgroups indicates
that he is attempting to compensate for low self-esteem, frustration
with aspects of his personal life over which he has no control, and
depression.
Stalking
Ken Kellogg aka flakey714 is a serial stalker and spammer who is
currently stalking the single-issue Kook Tom Hennessey by dogging
everything Hennessey crossposts with a few stock responses repeated over
and over again. He has been asked numerous times to explain exactly what
he hopes to accomplish by people who would try to reason with him, but
has no answer except additional attacks on Hennessey and hostility
towards anyone who asks.
While it is easy to understand the frustration that many feel towards
Tom Hennessy for his inane postings and how it drives some to confront
him, dogging his posts in a systematic way in the manner that Ken has
carried on for several months now amounts to stalking. And the
repetitive nature of Ken's replies far exceeds the guidelines set forth
in The Breidbart Index for determining what constitutes spam.
It should be obvious even to the most incompetent observer that stalking
a Kook is counter-productive, since Kooks love any and all attention.
What drives Ken to stalk Hennessey becomes clear when one examines Ken's
posting history. Ken Kellogg aka flakey714 has stalked others in the
same manner. He has been stalking some guy named "Dave" for more than
five years in many different newsgroups.
This is a typical example:
From: "ken as always" <flakey...@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.dating.uk.north-west
Subject: dave you fucking piece of uneducated crap
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:51:28 -0800
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Message-ID: <30ejojF...@uni-berlin.de>
> .Fuck you, fuck yo mama and fuck your imaginary god
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Truth is reality:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> Truth is reality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHjrHE80TA
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
"God" is a casual and intellectually sparse rationalisation of nerve
impulses within the human brain, conflated with social and societal
expediencies, such as the division of labour and the wielding of authority,
resulting in a formal definition of a personification of an authority that
must not be questioned.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/Pan-Flu
How to not be fearful:
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>
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monkfish
Is this the best you can do?
Your message is all about you, isn't it?
Are you too proud to beg for the help of the Holy Spirit?
--
monkfish
monkfish
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
> <><
>
> What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
> a deadlier Pan-Flu:
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/Pan-Flu
>
> How to not be fearful:
> http://T3WiJ.com
Fear-mongering?
Much better to pray "Lord, help us" constantly in private.
--
monkfish
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> Truth is reality:
>
Sounds like one of the slogans from 1984.
But "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD" as "Big Brother" is disgusting.
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> What we are teaching to prepare folks for the probable eventuality of
> a deadlier Pan-Flu
Does not even parse.
--
Virgil
Ken
> In article <i3mo45hb74gu7f1sa466cftgkt6ltke...@4ax.com>,
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Truth is reality:
>
> Sounds like one of the slogans from 1984.
>
> But "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD" as "Big Brother" is disgusting.
>
> --
> Virgil
While Chung's ignorance borders on the infinite
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Truth is reality ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?
... despite your efforts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3Book
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
life post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus ...
... before you die.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3Book
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
life post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus ...
... before you die.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3Book
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>
>
>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> ...
>
>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3Book
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
monkfish
> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, clean up things in your
> life post-haste:
Still trying to deceived the Holy Spirit in you?
Better pray "Lord, help me" a lot.
--
monkfish
monkfish
> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, clean up things in your
> life post-haste:
Dear Lord, help the clueless, please.
--
monkfish
monkfish
> David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>
>>
>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>> ...
>>
>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
> deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>
> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
Lord, help us, please.
--
monkfish
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> There is joy in being used by GOD
Not for those of us who dislike being used.
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> Sad to note that Chung's tormenting you
Then quit doing it, you son of Satan.
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, clean up things in your
> life post-haste
AS Monkfish's life is already infinitely cleaner than CHUNG's, Chung
would do better to follow his own advice first, and give such advice to
others only when he has cleaned up his own life.
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>
> Truth is reality ...
Truth is something to which "ANDREW B. CHUNG, MD/PHD" has no access,
since he lives with so many delusions.
--
Virgil
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >
> > Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
> > deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
> >
> > May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>
> Lord, help us, please.
Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
Sanity's Little Helper
Prayer is futile,nobody's listening. Try praying in one hand and shitting
in the other, and see which one fills up first.
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
God (n) A casual and intellectually sparse rationalisation of nerve
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>
>>
>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>> ...
>>
>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
> deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>
I detect humour!
> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
I live in the UK, he can't afford the petrol :-)
Sanity's Little Helper
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Which one? Mandelson?
Sanity's Little Helper
posteth:
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>
>>> Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>>> deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>>>
>>> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>
>> Lord, help us, please.
>
> Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
Andrew, can you publicly say "Mary had a little lamb"?
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>> >>
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>> >
>> > Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>> > deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>> >
>> > May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>
>> Lord, help us, please.
>
> Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
Can you hear the Holy Spirit in you groaning?
monkfish
> It is an ancient monkfish <monkfish@nowhere>, and he posteth:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, clean up things in your
>>> life post-haste:
>>
>>
>> Still trying to deceived the Holy Spirit in you?
>> Better pray "Lord, help me" a lot.
>
> Prayer is futile,nobody's listening. Try praying in one hand and shitting
> in the other, and see which one fills up first.
Never prayed for the health of your loved ones?
What an impoverished life!
--
monkfish
monkfish
> It is an ancient monkfish <monkfish@nowhere>, and he posteth:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>
>>> Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>>> deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>>>
>>> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>
>>
>> Lord, help us, please.
>
> Which one? Mandelson?
What are you willing to do to find out?
--
monkfish
monkfish
> It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>, and he
> posteth:
>
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>>
>>>> Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>>>> deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>>>>
>>>> May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>>
>>> Lord, help us, please.
>>
>> Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
>
> Andrew, can you publicly say "Mary had a little lamb"?
You are lost.
Too proud to ask for directions?
Just say "Help me, please."
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Sad to note that you can't answer with a written affirmative whether
you can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with GOD's help.
Why is GOD not helping you if you have been asking Him to help you
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F
Thommadura
Things that do not exist - do not make noises either
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> monkfish wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> > David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>>> >
>>>> > Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>>>> > deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>>>> >
>>>> > May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>>>>
>>>> Lord, help us, please.
>>>
>>> Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
>>
>> Can you hear the Holy Spirit in you groaning?
>
> Sad to note that you can't answer with a written affirmative whether
> you can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with GOD's help.
>
> Why is GOD not helping you if you have been asking Him to help you
> publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Dear Lord, Jesus Christ, help us overcome our unbelief!
Mark 9:24 (New International Version)
[quote]
24Immediately the boy's father exclaimed,
"I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!"
[/quote]
--
monkfish
monkfish
You are not just God-blind.
You are God-deaf as well.
Do you have a conscience?
--
monkfish
Dan Listermann
"monkfish" <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in message
news:4a4e0acc$0$27639$ce5e...@news-radius.ptd.net...
Virgil
<9a45cfa2-fd60-4265...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Monkfish, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with His help?
Who "He"?
--
Virgil
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Sad to note that satan's tormenting has resulted in severe sleep
> >>> > deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
So take a pill, Andy, and get rested.
> >>> >
> >>> > May GOD drive satan out of you, Andy.
> Sad to note that Andy can't answer with a written affirmative whether
> Andy can publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with GOD's help.
>
> Why is GOD not helping Andy if Andy has been asking Him for help ?
>
> Love in bloom,
>
> Andrew >< >< ><
--
Virgil
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
probable eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?
Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?
Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Jesus is LORD, forever !!!
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"
monkfish
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
> <><
> "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
You really should stop trying to become like God.
Did Jesus Christ come with power?
--
monkfish
John Locke
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:
>David Silverman, while tormented by satan, despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b63cd9e98f1328f?
>>>
>>
>>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>> ...
>>
>>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>Sad to note that satan's tormenting you has resulted in severe sleep
>deprivation leading to extreme daytime somnolence.
>
>May GOD drive satan out of you, David.
>
May an exorcist drive "God" out of you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> Repent and sin no more.
"That is automatic for those of us who are true Christians (either Jew
or gentile) when we are mindful of WDJW which would not even be
possible were we not born again of water and Spirit in accord with
John 3:5 ... "
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/58968a99786b6733?
Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus ...
... before you die.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/T3Book
monkfish
> monkfish wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
>>
>> Repent and sin no more.
>
> "That is automatic for those of us who are true Christians (either Jew
> or gentile) when we are mindful of WDJW which would not even be
> possible were we not born again of water and Spirit in accord with
> John 3:5 ... "
You misunderstood.
"Brother, Are You Saved? or
How to Handle the Religious Census Taker"
by Troy Organ
http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1885
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
>>>
>>> Repent and sin no more.
>>
>> "That is automatic for those of us who are true Christians (either Jew
>> or gentile) when we are mindful of WDJW which would not even be
>> possible were we not born again of water and Spirit in accord with
>> John 3:5 ... "
>>
>
>You misunderstood.
Lie.
In the Holy Spirit, there is no misunderstanding.
> "Brother, Are You Saved?" -- Monkfish
Yes.
"How do you know?" -- Monkfish
Am continuing to publicly confess that "Jesus is LORD."
Monkfish, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
"Better to repent and sin no more." --Monkfish
"That is automatic for those of us who are true Christians (either Jew
or gentile) when we are mindful of WDJW which would not even be
possible were we not born again of water and Spirit in accord with
John 3:5 ... " -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/58968a99786b6733?
Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is truly joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus ...
... before you die.
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the acronym WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F
monkfish
"Brother, are you educated?"
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
If you have to ask, you are not educated.
Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
monkfish
You seem to think I would be impressed
if you say you are a medical doctor.
I would be much more impressed
if you run a soup kitchen or know Hebrew.
Are you educated enough to teach others
what it means to be saved?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GOD's purpose for this disciple of Jesus here remains to inform and
not to impress.
Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
monkfish
Trying your hand at negative pedagogy?
You are doing a good job of showing us
what not to do to be a Christian.
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
No.
GOD's purpose for this disciple of Jesus here remains to inform and
not to serve as an example one way or another.
>You are doing a good job of showing us
>what not to do to be a Christian.
There is nothing you can do on your own to become a true Christian
just as Saul did nothing to become Apostle Paul. Indeed, Saul was
doing everything that the world believed would have ensured that Saul
would never become a follower of Christ Jesus !!!
Bottom line:
GOD leads those whom He wants to become true Christians.
Therefore, it remains wise for those of us who are true Christians
(either Jew or gentile) to continue to be mindful of WDJW by praying
for your perishing soul.
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the Truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:
http://WDJW.net
Ken
Board-certified Fruitcake
While Chung may still technically be a doctor, he has no real
practice and no admitting privileges.
His psychological problems and accompanying delusions have caused him
to become a complete failure as a human being not to mention being a
spamming fuckwit
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:
monkfish
You misunderstood.
Do you really think Jesus Christ put up a show for God?
Do you even have free will?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of the WDJW acronym:
monkfish
> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
> There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
> May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
> the truth, Who is Jesus:
> http://T3WiJ.com
Still pretending to be the spokeperson of the Holy Spirit?
What does the Spirit say about your future?
Are you going to die without committing any more sin?
--
monkfish
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
>> Would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying post-haste:
>
Have not started being an oracle of GOD, therefore you continue to
lie.
Again, would continue to suggest that you, Monkfish, stop lying
post-haste:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/41c249af3016b2dd?
There is joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD soften your heart, Monkfish, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.