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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 28, 2008, 2:55:30 PM12/28/08
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Ted L wrote:
>
> God's simple plan of salvation is: You are a sinner. Therefore, unless you
> believe on Jesus Who died in your place, you will spend eternity in Hell. If
> you believe on Him as your crucified, buried, and risen Savior, you receive
> forgiveness for all of your sins and His gift of eternal salvation by faith.
>
> You say, "Surely, it cannot be that simple." Yes, that simple! It is
> scriptural. It is God's plan. My friend, believe on Jesus and receive Him as
> Savior today.
>
> If His plan is not perfectly clear, read this tract over and over, without
> laying it down, until you understand it. Your soul is worth more than all
> the world.
>
> (Message continues below)
> http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps-english.html
>
> --
> "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some
> is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day
> approaching." Hebrews 10:25
> Bible-believing church finders:
> <http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/churchdir/!churches.htm>
> <http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermonssource.asp?zipsearch=true>

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His moving you
to crosspost this on Usenet ! ! !

Additional suggested reading and/or viewing for those who are
following this thread of written discussion:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Love in Jesus,

Andrew <><
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"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c805a3fe6c8c39c9?

Anon

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Dec 28, 2008, 3:58:52 PM12/28/08
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Chung may admit to being a sinner, but speaks only for himself.

panam...@hotmail.com

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On Dec 28, 2:55 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD", diet guru to the stars
<lov...@thetruth.com> scrawled in crayon on his padded cell:

snip

Look, Ted! The crazy man agrees with you! Aren't you proud?

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 28, 2008, 5:12:25 PM12/28/08
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<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

panam...@hotmail.com

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Dec 28, 2008, 5:23:45 PM12/28/08
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On Dec 28, 5:12 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD", diet guru to the stars

<lov...@thetruth.com> scrawled in crayon on his padded cell:

snip more crap

Andy, the 700 Club is on. If you don't hurry, you won't be able to
masturbate to it.

-PF, Atl.
etc.

Virgil

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Dec 28, 2008, 5:26:15 PM12/28/08
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duke

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Dec 28, 2008, 5:33:02 PM12/28/08
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:15 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:

>http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

Nope, Christ is the only way to cure the problem. Which is really rampant
amongst you atheist wannabes.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 28, 2008, 6:01:38 PM12/28/08
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convicted neighbor Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1deefb1155ec4406?

>
> Andy, the 700 Club is on. If you don't hurry, you won't be able to
> masturbate to it.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your being unable to publicly say
"Jesus is LORD."

Bill M

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Dec 28, 2008, 2:40:48 PM12/28/08
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:26:15 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
>
>>http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
>
> Nope, Christ is the only way to cure the problem. Which is really rampant
> amongst you atheist wannabes.
>
An imaginary god can't cure anything!

Ted L

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Dec 28, 2008, 8:13:37 PM12/28/08
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On Dec 28, 4:26 pm, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
> http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

"I think you’ll find this book 'explains a lot.'"

Sort of OT, but the quote from your web page Reminds me of what
Phillip Johnson observed in his book "Darwin On Trial" with respect to
theories like Freudian and Darwinian (i.e. junk/pseudo science)...that
seem to explain everything ultimately explain nothing.

Free Lunch

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Dec 28, 2008, 8:50:50 PM12/28/08
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:37 -0800 (PST), Ted L <ted...@ymail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Of course it's completely dishonest to try to assert that Darwin's
discoveries are pseudo-science.

E.P. Uum

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Dec 28, 2008, 9:13:01 PM12/28/08
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In article
<9e5e270e-d410-4d9c...@g38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1deefb1155ec4406?
> >
> > Andy, the 700 Club is on. If you don't hurry, you won't be able to
> > masturbate to it.
>
> Many thanks

You don't have to thank us, Andy, just don't make us watch while you do
yourself.

Ted L

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Dec 29, 2008, 12:09:12 AM12/29/08
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On Dec 28, 7:50 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:37 -0800 (PST), Ted L <tedl...@ymail.com>

Discoveries? Perhaps not. His origin posit--descent with modification--
yes!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 29, 2008, 2:32:08 AM12/29/08
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/427fb94e4bc7108e?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--

Free Lunch

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Dec 29, 2008, 2:36:33 AM12/29/08
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:09:12 -0800 (PST), Ted L <ted...@ymail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Dec 28, 7:50 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:37 -0800 (PST), Ted L <tedl...@ymail.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>> >On Dec 28, 4:26 pm, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
>> >>http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
>>
>> > "I think you’ll find this book 'explains a lot.'"
>>
>> >Sort of OT, but the quote from your web page Reminds me of what
>> >Phillip Johnson observed in his book "Darwin On Trial" with respect to
>> >theories like Freudian and Darwinian (i.e. junk/pseudo science)...that
>> >seem to explain everything ultimately explain nothing.
>>
>> Of course it's completely dishonest to try to assert that Darwin's
>> discoveries are pseudo-science.
>
>Discoveries? Perhaps not. His origin posit--descent with modification--
>yes!

Show us why you think your claim is valid when the weight of the
evidence shows that you are wrong.

Anon

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Dec 29, 2008, 3:58:10 AM12/29/08
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http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/CE5/Agn-X.html
Jesus is only e pluribus unum ! ! !

Ted L

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Dec 29, 2008, 11:29:17 AM12/29/08
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On Dec 29, 1:36 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:09:12 -0800 (PST), Ted L <tedl...@ymail.com>

> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 28, 7:50 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:13:37 -0800 (PST), Ted L <tedl...@ymail.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >> >On Dec 28, 4:26 pm, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
> >> >>http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
>
> >> > "I think you’ll find this book 'explains a lot.'"
>
> >> >Sort of OT, but the quote from your web page Reminds me of what
> >> >Phillip Johnson observed in his book "Darwin On Trial" with respect to
> >> >theories like Freudian and Darwinian (i.e. junk/pseudo science)...that
> >> >seem to explain everything ultimately explain nothing.
>
> >> Of course it's completely dishonest to try to assert that Darwin's
> >> discoveries are pseudo-science.
>
> >Discoveries? Perhaps not. His origin posit--descent with modification--
> >yes!
>
> Show us why you think your claim is valid when the weight of the
> evidence shows that you are wrong.


Evoluditon is invalid because the Bible irrefutably contradicts it.
Settled.

Nomen Publicus

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Dec 29, 2008, 11:48:03 AM12/29/08
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Ted L <ted...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Evoluditon is invalid because the Bible irrefutably contradicts it.
> Settled.

I agree. Supporters of "Evoluditon" should be burnt at the stake in the
proper christian fashion.

OTOH, The Amish believe that most modern technology is to be avoided because
of the bible. Why are they wrong?

--
Gustaf Lindborg: The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail

Free Lunch

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Dec 29, 2008, 12:03:14 PM12/29/08
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:29:17 -0800 (PST), Ted L <ted...@ymail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Once again, you choose to lie to us. This time, not only do you
dishonestly appeal to the Bible as evidence about science when you know
that the Bible is not evidence in any such way, but you also choose to
interpret the Bible in such a way as to force it to contradict the
physical evidence that has been gathered. You have chosen to bear false
witness. Please, tell us when your God told you that lying in such way
was required. Is is a sacrament? Is the name of your church "The Church
of the Lying Worshipper of Ignorance"?

You must realize that the anti-science doctrine that you propound mocks
God. Are you proud that you mock God?

--


Here is what Jesus said would happen to those who are intentionally
ignorant:

"Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten
talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an
abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from
him. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where
there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

thomas p.

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Dec 29, 2008, 2:48:52 PM12/29/08
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"Ted L" <ted...@ymail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:a7154888-1c2a-4a20...@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

"Ted L"


Evoluditon is invalid because the Bible irrefutably contradicts it.
Settled.

-------------------------------------------
thomas p
Once again, what evidence do you have that the Bible should be believed?


Syd M.

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Dec 29, 2008, 4:07:44 PM12/29/08
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No.
The bible is myth. Evoluliton is science.
Deal.

PDW

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 29, 2008, 8:08:37 PM12/29/08
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thomas p. wrote:

> Once again, what evidence do you have that the Bible should be believed?

It is written in the Bible that "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'


except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)

With you own eyes, behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement the
following miracle by the Holy Spirit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

As is often said... "seeing is believing."

Still don't believe?

Go ahead and try to publicly declare "Jesus is LORD" without GOD's
help.

Yap

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Dec 30, 2008, 1:08:59 AM12/30/08
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> Settled.- Hide quoted text -
An idiot who knows nothing.
Evolution is based on elaborate works of science which is based on
solid science.
The bible is nothing more than tales which came out of human mind in
ancient times.
Your pathetic and loony mind is not capable to understand the above
difference.
>
> - Show quoted text -

Anon

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Dec 30, 2008, 1:42:52 AM12/30/08
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In article
<09e752b0-eba7-421f...@h16g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> thomas p. wrote:
>
> > Once again, what evidence do you have that the Bible should be believed?
>
> It is written in the Bible that "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'
> except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)

There are all sorts of nonsensical things written in the various
mutaully contradictory versions of "The Bible".

Which version does ABC have in mind.

The one written by God's own hand in King James English?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--


"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Anon

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Dec 30, 2008, 4:34:11 AM12/30/08
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Such evidence can exist only in the eyes of those who already believe,
but skeptics can all clearly see that no unequivocal evidence exists.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

> Such evidence can exist only in the eyes of those who already believe,
> but skeptics can all clearly see that no unequivocal evidence exists.

Incorrect.

Your not being able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is unequivocal
evidence that the Bible should be believed because in the Bible is the
only rational explanation that "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD'


except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3)

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly provide the unequivocal evidence that the Bible
should be believed.

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

... while publicly proclaiming that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Anon

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Dec 30, 2008, 1:47:36 PM12/30/08
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> > Such evidence can exist only in the eyes of those who already believe,
> > but skeptics can all clearly see that no unequivocal evidence exists.

In article
<c4ff63f0-76a2-43ff...@v4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote

>
> Incorrect.

It is ABC being incorrect in claiming incorrectness.

Pramesh Rutaji

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Dec 30, 2008, 2:18:43 PM12/30/08
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Nomen Publicus wrote:
> Ted L <ted...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> Evoluditon is invalid because the Bible irrefutably contradicts it.
>> Settled.
>
> I agree. Supporters of "Evoluditon" should be burnt at the stake in the
> proper christian fashion.

And of course, those who contradict the flat earth theory should be
burnt at the stake as well.

> OTOH, The Amish believe that most modern technology is to be avoided because
> of the bible. Why are they wrong?

Anyone who used the bible to support any variant of a mythocentric view
is wrong. Talking Asses indeed.

--

Pramesh Rutaji

p297ton...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 30, 2008, 2:46:54 PM12/30/08
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<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
upcoming 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our
Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--

Ted L

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Dec 31, 2008, 11:14:24 PM12/31/08
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On Dec 29, 10:48 am, Nomen Publicus <zzas...@buffy.sighup.org.uk>
wrote:

They ignore 1Corintians 5:9-10, which was written (these verses were)
to avert the Church in Corinth from becoming like the Amish are today
in taking sanctification to the extreme. We (Christians) are to be in
the world, not of it. They attempt to make their own world to live
in.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 3:44:51 AM1/1/09
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Ted L wrote:
> >
> > OTOH, The Amish believe that most modern technology is to be avoided because
> > of the bible. Why are they wrong?
>
> They ignore 1Corintians 5:9-10, which was written (these verses were)
> to avert the Church in Corinth from becoming like the Amish are today
> in taking sanctification to the extreme. We (Christians) are to be in
> the world, not of it. They attempt to make their own world to live
> in.

It is written that Jesus prayed for us to remain in this world while
there is work that He wants us to do.

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for the Amish asking GOD to bless them in
His mighty way more than He has ever blessed them before, in Jesus'
precious and holy name.

Amen.

thomas p.

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"Ted L" <ted...@ymail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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--------------------------------------------------

Yes, that is what many Christian sects and organisations do when they
agitate to get government power to enforce their personal concepts of
private behavior, or to impose their purely religious beliefs on school
science classes - just to name a couple of examples.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 7:20:09 AM1/1/09
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thomas p. wrote:
>
> Yes, that is what many Christian sects and organisations do when they
> agitate to get government power to enforce their personal concepts of
> private behavior, or to impose their purely religious beliefs on school
> science classes - just to name a couple of examples.

Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.

Truth is simple.

Ted L

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Jan 1, 2009, 1:32:16 PM1/1/09
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On Jan 1, 2:44 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> Ted L wrote:
>
> > > OTOH, The Amish believe that most modern technology is to be avoided because
> > > of the bible. Why are they wrong?
>
> > They ignore 1Corintians 5:9-10, which was written (these verses were)
> > to avert the Church in Corinth from becoming like the Amish are today
> > in taking sanctification to the extreme. We (Christians) are to be in
> > the world, not of it.  They attempt to make their own world to live
> > in.
>
> It is written that Jesus prayed for us to remain in this world while
> there is work that He wants us to do.
>
> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
> mindful of WDJW by praying for the Amish asking GOD to bless them in
> His mighty way more than He has ever blessed them before, in Jesus'
> precious and holy name.

Negative Andrew. Praying for God's blessing on error is heretical to
say the least. That's like when Aaron made a golden calf and said
"Behold your god" and then proclaimed a feast unto the Lord.
Foolishness and confusion. We're called to know, identify, separate
from, and shun, doctrinal error.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 1:56:20 PM1/1/09
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Ted L wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Ted L wrote:
> >
> > > > OTOH, The Amish believe that most modern technology is to be avoided because
> > > > of the bible. Why are they wrong?
> >
> > > They ignore 1Corintians 5:9-10, which was written (these verses were)
> > > to avert the Church in Corinth from becoming like the Amish are today
> > > in taking sanctification to the extreme. We (Christians) are to be in
> > > the world, not of it. They attempt to make their own world to live
> > > in.
> >
> > It is written that Jesus prayed for us to remain in this world while
> > there is work that He wants us to do.
> >
> > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
> > mindful of WDJW by praying for the Amish asking GOD to bless them in
> > His mighty way more than He has ever blessed them before, in Jesus'
> > precious and holy name.
>
> Negative Andrew. Praying for God's blessing on error is heretical to
> say the least.

Here, GOD's blessing would be upon neighbors and not error.

> That's like when Aaron made a golden calf and said
> "Behold your god" and then proclaimed a feast unto the Lord.

Incorrect.

Instead, this would be like praying for you, though you have made an
error:

May GOD bless you in His mighty way more than He has ever blessed you
before, dear Ted, is Jesus' precious and holy name.

Amen.

> Foolishness and confusion. We're called to know, identify, separate
> from, and shun, doctrinal error.

It remains wiser to be mindful of WDJW, which is about Jesus, instead
of doctrines, which are man-made.

"Love you neighbor as you would love yourself." is repeated 9 times in
the Bible so that we know to love our Amish neighbors (i.e. pray for
them) is in keeping with WDJW.

Personally, GOD's smile lets me know that my praying for our Amish
neighbors and for you is what He desires of me.

Jesus is LORD ! ! !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

E.P. Uum

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Jan 1, 2009, 3:23:11 PM1/1/09
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If there is only one god, who decides which one?

Obviously the followers of any one of them are biased, and therefore not
competent to make that decision.

Virgil

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Jan 1, 2009, 3:32:31 PM1/1/09
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In article
<e9c67094-caa1-4405...@e6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.

Fair enough as long as that science class equally teaches kids to be
equally open to the possibility of no god because there has been no
scientific evidence that any gods exist.

Science is mostly neutral on the issue of gods because statements
(hypotheses) about gods are mostly scientifically untestable.

Thus no statements about whether gods exist or not should be allowed in
science classes.

Anon

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Jan 1, 2009, 3:34:40 PM1/1/09
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In article
<95932461-ecc3-4747...@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


> What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?

Equally relevant is "What does Bhudda want?"

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 4:27:03 PM1/1/09
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It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.

God - or any deity - has no part in science. God isn't science, God is a
massive appeal to both ignorance and incredulity.

God is the answer to questions nobody should ever have bothered asking,
because all the questions to which God is allegedly the answer are
fundamentally dishonest.

The scientific evidence that there are no gods is as follows:
Physics
Chemistry
Biology
Astronomy
Neuroscience
Anthropology

All of each and every one of these sciences demonstrates processes of
nature that are independent of any agency other than the laws of nature.
These laws determine everything including the existence of existence
itself, they require no conscious entity to have created them. A failure on
anybody's part to understand them sufficiently to realise this is not
science's problem.

--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
Atheists didn't kill a sixth of the population of Central Europe -
Christians did.
Not authentic without this signature.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 4:39:11 PM1/1/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> > because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> > would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
>
> God - or any deity - has no part in science.

Lie.

GOD created science and the scientific method.

Moreover, using the scientific method, proof of GOD the Holy Spirit is
now in the public domain:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c7450430959d1363?

Jesus is LORD ! ! !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to


be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as

GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful

2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 4:43:04 PM1/1/09
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It is an ancient Sanity's Little Helper <elv...@noshpam.org>, and he
posteth:

> It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
> posteth:
>
>> Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
>> because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
>> would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
>
> God - or any deity - has no part in science. God isn't science, God is a
> massive appeal to both ignorance and incredulity.
>
> God is the answer to questions nobody should ever have bothered asking,
> because all the questions to which God is allegedly the answer are
> fundamentally dishonest.
>
> The scientific evidence that there are no gods is as follows:
> Physics
> Chemistry
> Biology
> Astronomy
> Neuroscience
> Anthropology
>
> All of each and every one of these sciences demonstrates processes of
> nature that are independent of any agency other than the laws of nature.
> These laws determine everything including the existence of existence
> itself, they require no conscious entity to have created them. A failure on
> anybody's part to understand them sufficiently to realise this is not
> science's problem.

... and it certainly isn't mine.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 4:45:42 PM1/1/09
to
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d985d63d4a00d815?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 4:52:30 PM1/1/09
to
It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:


>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
>>> because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
>>> would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
>>
>> God - or any deity - has no part in science.
>
> Lie.
>

Saying that something is a lie when you have snipped the explanation is an
act of both dishonesty and cowardice. The good denizens of Usenet have come
to expect this from you. It will not go unpunished.

> GOD created science and the scientific method.
>

PMSL.

<rest snipped as a random act of mercy>

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:05:05 PM1/1/09
to
It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
> want?" (WDJW):

Jesus wants some new blades for his lawn mower. He would also like some
enchiladas for his lunch.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:05:17 PM1/1/09
to
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d985d63d4a00d815?

>
> Saying that something is a lie when you have snipped the explanation is an
> act of both dishonesty and cowardice.

Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.

It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully and to
address in writing only the frist lie that I reach because
explanations for the first lie are automatically additional lies.

As it is written, lying is your native language.

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:14:44 PM1/1/09
to
It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

>> Saying that something is a lie when you have snipped the explanation is an


>> act of both dishonesty and cowardice.
>
> Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.

Words are words, be they written or spoken. Honesty isn't your first
language, is it?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:51:11 PM1/1/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.

> >
> > Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
>
> Words are words, be they written or spoken.

Incorrect.

Written words are different from spoken words.

Editing is applicable only to written words.

Interruption is applicable only to spoken words.

It remains appropriate to end a written discourse at either an error
or a lie and even to edit out such errors or lies.

E.P. Uum

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:51:21 PM1/1/09
to
In article
<615d0e75-284d-4b9f...@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> > > because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> > > would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
> >
> > God - or any deity - has no part in science.
>
> Lie.
>
> GOD created science and the scientific method.

Even if that were so, it does not mean that any godly existence is
subject to scientific proof. Disproof perhaps, but no proof.


>
> Moreover, using the scientific method, proof of GOD the Holy Spirit is
> now in the public domain


Now THAT is an actual lie.

By what scientific experiment does Andrew, the fool, claim to produce
scientific proof of the existence of either any god or any spirit?

E.P. Uum

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:52:52 PM1/1/09
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In article
<2ed01398-c9eb-40b5...@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

Then starve yourself a bit, fathead.

Anon

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:54:43 PM1/1/09
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In article
<3d83b01e-436b-46b2...@e10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


> > Saying that something is a lie when you have snipped the explanation is an
> > act of both dishonesty and cowardice.
>
> Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.

Then stop saying that nothing here, idiot child.

panam...@hotmail.com

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Jan 1, 2009, 5:58:43 PM1/1/09
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On Jan 1, 5:51 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.
>
> > > Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
>
> > Words are words, be they written or spoken.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Written words are different from spoken words.
>
> Editing is applicable only to written words.
>
> Interruption is applicable only to spoken words.
>
> It remains appropriate to end a written discourse at either an error
> or a lie and even to edit out such errors or lies.

Y'see, David...Andy freaks out a little when he opens the spoon drawer
and there are forks in it.

I always thought autistics were born, not made. The things one learns
on Usenet!

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

panam...@hotmail.com

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Jan 1, 2009, 6:03:15 PM1/1/09
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On Jan 1, 5:51 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD", diet guru to the starts
<lov...@thetruth.com> scrawled in crayon on the walls of his padded
cell:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.
>
> > > Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
>
> > Words are words, be they written or spoken.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Written words are different from spoken words.
>
> Editing is applicable only to written words.
>
> Interruption is applicable only to spoken words.

Liar! Or at least, someone who's never had cats. Or who's forgotten
what it's like to live with children..and when's the last time you
sent that poor girl a check, deadbeat? Book not selling like you
thought it would? Oh well! We can't all be Dr. Atkins, I suppose.

Sanity's Little Helper

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Jan 1, 2009, 6:05:06 PM1/1/09
to
It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:


>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.
>>>
>>> Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
>>
>> Words are words, be they written or spoken.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Written words are different from spoken words.
>
> Editing is applicable only to written words.
>
> Interruption is applicable only to spo

<smack!>

Pardon?

Anon

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Jan 1, 2009, 6:32:04 PM1/1/09
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In article
<ae3eb781-1e15-4b92...@m12g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.
> > >
> > > Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
> >
> > Words are words, be they written or spoken.
>
> Incorrect.

What word when written becomes not a word when spoken?

What word when spoken becomes not a word when written?

If either of these happen with what is written in the Xtian "Bible",
then it is all lies.

Don Kirkman

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Jan 2, 2009, 2:35:11 AM1/2/09
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<e9c67094-caa1-4405...@e6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>:

>thomas p. wrote:

>> Yes, that is what many Christian sects and organisations do when they
>> agitate to get government power to enforce their personal concepts of
>> private behavior, or to impose their purely religious beliefs on school
>> science classes - just to name a couple of examples.

>Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
>because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
>would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.

>Truth is simple.

Yes, it is in this case. The truth is that what you assert is not a
scientific fact because you use science vocabulary but not the
scientific method of discovering truth. Science does not depend on
negating an assumption but on gathering evidence and basing hypotheses
and conclusions on a body of credible evidence.

You passed out of the scientific world several years ago, at least as
early as when you started denying evolution as a scientific theory.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Don Kirkman

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Jan 2, 2009, 2:35:11 AM1/2/09
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article
<3d83b01e-436b-46b2...@e10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>:

>As it is written, lying is your native language.

Lying is in your nature, just as the text you allude to says it is.
That text does not say lying is s.o.'s native language but that it is
language that is true to the nature of the person writing or otherwise
expressing it.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2009, 2:47:14 AM1/2/09
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convicted neighbor Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote::

> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2a22e7e4915a5519?.
> >
> > > > Nothing is said here in this text-based medium.
> >
> > > Words are words, be they written or spoken.
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > Written words are different from spoken words.
> >
> > Editing is applicable only to written words.
> >
> > Interruption is applicable only to spoken words.
>
> Liar!

It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.

Your false witness is forgiven by me.

This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5a849c8a19ae2356?

May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear Floyd:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3ee85d767ff2e77f?

E.P. Uum

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Jan 2, 2009, 7:25:51 PM1/2/09
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In article
<60a4fe1c-3ac3-46d7...@e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


> It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.

How can you continue what you have not yet begun?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 2, 2009, 8:54:58 PM1/2/09
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > thomas p. wrote:
>
> >> Yes, that is what many Christian sects and organisations do when they
> >> agitate to get government power to enforce their personal concepts of
> >> private behavior, or to impose their purely religious beliefs on school
> >> science classes - just to name a couple of examples.
>
> >Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> >because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> >would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
>
> >Truth is simple.
>
> Yes, it is in this case. The truth is that what you assert is not a
> scientific fact because you use science vocabulary but not the
> scientific method of discovering truth.

Incorrect.

The use of the scientific method has been evident in the hypothesis
testing, which you have not been able to convincingly refute:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c7450430959d1363?

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your being unable to publicly say
"Jesus is LORD."

Yap

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Jan 12, 2009, 2:33:54 AM1/12/09
to
On Jan 2, 4:32 am, Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
> In article
> <e9c67094-caa1-4405-9e8b-0e0fbee13...@e6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,

Not really.
Before we do allow for both, we can take out the bible and examine all
the events described therein.
I believe, each event such as god created Adam from dust, would have
to be shown that it was possible, from the point of science.
We know dust consist of a few elements....whereas human consist of
much more elements than the dust....
So, if proved that what was written in the bible for the capabilities
of their god was a lie.
And you wish to teach lies and scientific facts...to your children?

Yap

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Jan 12, 2009, 2:38:46 AM1/12/09
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On Jan 2, 6:51 am, "E.P. Uum" <x...@com.com> wrote:
> In article
> <615d0e75-284d-4b9f-976f-c31a3e172...@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

>  "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> > > > because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> > > > would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
>
> > > God - or any deity - has no part in science.
>
> > Lie.
>
> > GOD created science and the scientific method.
>
> Even if that were so, it  does not mean that any godly existence is
> subject to scientific proof. Disproof perhaps, but no proof.
Yes, but his nonexistent god did not give out a methods for testing
his existence....why is this stupid Chung talking about?

Vipera berus

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Jan 18, 2009, 4:42:15 AM1/18/09
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Yap wrote:
> I believe, each event such as god created Adam from dust, would have
> to be shown that it was possible, from the point of science.
> We know dust consist of a few elements....whereas human consist of
> much more elements than the dust....
>

They'll just say it was magic dust!

Vb


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 18, 2009, 5:22:03 AM1/18/09
to
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > Teaching kids in a science class to be open to the possibility of GOD
> > > because there has been no scientific evidence that GOD does not exist
> > > would be purely a scientific fact rather than a religious belief.
> >
> > Fair enough as long as that science class equally teaches kids to be
> > equally open to the possibility of no god because there has been no
> > scientific evidence that any gods exist.

Incorrect.

There is the following objective evidence provided by GOD the Holy
Spirit through a medical scientist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

<><

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?

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