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Derek F

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May 14, 2011, 11:07:36 AM5/14/11
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Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
then treat hypertension in such a patient?
I have been taking verapamil for ten years and the others at various
times. Although now told that I have aortic stenosis it is asymptomatic.
Derek

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 14, 2011, 11:23:44 AM5/14/11
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Derek F wrote:
>
> Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
> to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
> then treat hypertension in such a patient?

Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.

In the interim, we should be more aggressive toward convincing the
patient to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body to lose the VAT, which is
the proximate cause of both the hypertension **and** the aortic
sclerosis.

> I have been taking verapamil for ten years and the others at various
> times. Although now told that I have aortic stenosis it is asymptomatic.

Yours is an example of how anti-hypertensive medications have not
addressed the underlying VAT which is causal.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the Truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Derek F

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May 14, 2011, 12:52:49 PM5/14/11
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On 01/01/1970 00:00, wrote:
> Derek F wrote:
>>
>> Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
>> to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
>> then treat hypertension in such a patient?
>
> Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.
>
Thank you Andrew. One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
Amlodopine and also prescribed Perindopril.
The second one did not suggest stopping Verapamil and also prescribed
100mg Losartan.
One site now has Ace Inhibitors back in favour.
http://www.nature.com/jhh/journal/v15/n10/abs/1001260a.html
Derek

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 14, 2011, 1:32:09 PM5/14/11
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Derek F wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Derek F wrote:
> >>
> >> Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
> >> to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
> >> then treat hypertension in such a patient?
> >
> > Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.
>
> Thank you Andrew.

Laus Deo for your thanks :-)

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

> One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
> Amlodopine and also prescribed Perindopril.

The latter would still be an ACE inhibitor.

> The second one did not suggest stopping Verapamil and also prescribed
> 100mg Losartan.

There is reason to think that ARBs are not really an alternative to
ACE inhibitors for patients with aortic stenosis.

> One site now has Ace Inhibitors back in favour.
> http://www.nature.com/jhh/journal/v15/n10/abs/1001260a.html

The review article is both dated and intended only for hypothesis
generation. The hope of improved outcomes in hypertensive aortic
stenosis patients treated with ACE inhibitors has not been realized.

We really are seeing the need for anti-hypertensive medications
decrease as early as 3 days after patients start really holding
themselves to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food as they
http://WDJW.net/Guard their body. We are also seeing the miraculous
reversal of aortic stenosis in those who have this condition.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

diabetics and other heart disease patients including those with aortic
stenosis:

Happy Oyster <>

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May 14, 2011, 2:14:41 PM5/14/11
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Being hungry really is wonderful

Oh, that insane stuff again. Who will Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung do harm to
today? His patients should sue him to death.
--
"Die Frau ist ein Mißgriff der Natur... mit ihrem Feuchtigkeits-Überschuß
und ihrer Untertemperatur körperlich und geistig minderwertiger... eine
Art verstümmelter, verfehlter, mißlungener Mann...die volle Verwirklichung
der menschlichen Art ist nur der Mann."
Thomas von Aquin, hl., Kirchenlehrer, 1225-1274
Heilsames über christliche Lebensart: http://www.reimbibel.de

Derek F

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May 14, 2011, 2:17:16 PM5/14/11
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On 14/05/2011 18:32, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Derek F wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Derek F wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
>>>> to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
>>>> then treat hypertension in such a patient?
>>>
>>> Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.
>>
>> Thank you Andrew.
>
> Laus Deo for your thanks :-)
>
> http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
>
>> One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
>> Amlodopine and also prescribed Perindopril.
>
> The latter would still be an ACE inhibitor.
>
>> The second one did not suggest stopping Verapamil and also prescribed
>> 100mg Losartan.
>
> There is reason to think that ARBs are not really an alternative to
> ACE inhibitors for patients with aortic stenosis.

There is not all that much in the way of drugs for us in that case.


>> One site now has Ace Inhibitors back in favour.
>> http://www.nature.com/jhh/journal/v15/n10/abs/1001260a.html
>
> The review article is both dated and intended only for hypothesis
> generation. The hope of improved outcomes in hypertensive aortic
> stenosis patients treated with ACE inhibitors has not been realized.

Indeed, I had not noticed the date.
Thank you again
Derek


>
> We really are seeing the need for anti-hypertensive medications
> decrease as early as 3 days after patients start really holding
> themselves to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food as they
> http://WDJW.net/Guard their body. We are also seeing the miraculous
> reversal of aortic stenosis in those who have this condition.

>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 14, 2011, 2:37:22 PM5/14/11
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Derek F wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Derek F wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Derek F wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ace Inhibitors, Angiotensin receptor blockers and Verapamil are all said
> >>>> to be contra indicated in patients with aortic stenosis. How would you
> >>>> then treat hypertension in such a patient?
> >>>
> >>> Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.
> >>
> >> Thank you Andrew.
> >
> > Laus Deo for your thanks :-)
> >
> > http://WDJW.net/LausDeo
> >
> >> One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
> >> Amlodopine and also prescribed Perindopril.
> >
> > The latter would still be an ACE inhibitor.
> >
> >> The second one did not suggest stopping Verapamil and also prescribed
> >> 100mg Losartan.
> >
> > There is reason to think that ARBs are not really an alternative to
> > ACE inhibitors for patients with aortic stenosis.
>
> There is not all that much in the way of drugs for us in that case.

The management of hypertensive aortic stenosis patients is challenging
in those who choose to continue to overeat.

> >> One site now has Ace Inhibitors back in favour.
> >> http://www.nature.com/jhh/journal/v15/n10/abs/1001260a.html
> >
> > The review article is both dated and intended only for hypothesis
> > generation. The hope of improved outcomes in hypertensive aortic
> > stenosis patients treated with ACE inhibitors has not been realized.
>
> Indeed, I had not noticed the date.
> Thank you again

Laus Deo :-)

Really, the key to reversing aortic stenosis is losing the VAT and it
is only when we are http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier that we are
losing the VAT

> > We really are seeing the need for anti-hypertensive medications
> > decrease as early as 3 days after patients start really holding
> > themselves to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food as they
> > http://WDJW.net/Guard their body. We are also seeing the miraculous
> > reversal of aortic stenosis in those who have this condition.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Imma Quack
Imma Insane
Imma Bat Shit KrAzY
And imma Chung da Chink, MF/SOB/BS

Board-certified as an obsessive compulsive internet spamming
Quackologist
Not to be confused with an actual MD.
Not to be confused with anyone sane.
Not to be confused with reality

Happy Oyster <>

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May 14, 2011, 5:23:38 PM5/14/11
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:37:22 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>The management of hypertensive aortic

Be warned!:

Medical advice must not be given by idiots like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung, who
is nothing but an impostor, and whose medical claims are rightwawy insane.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.


FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
========================================

30.4.2011

0. Preword
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung preaches hate-crime
and wants people to be killed.
11. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be killed
12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments
13. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung tramps on dying patients and on dead patients.
14. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
15. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
16. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
17. How did Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung forge all his medical exams?
18. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up breastfeeding and
foetus nouriture via umbilical cord
19. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung libels and defames Dr. Frank Hildner
20. Satan Adrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study.
New facts about the damages he caused to patients
21. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
22. Do not forget: fight hunger!

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

A look at the header reveals:

From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...


Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.


The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the sadistic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a sadistic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

sci.med.cardiology


His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.


2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
From: "Tdub" <gripshift5@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_11783501/27080031Complaint%20and%20Waiver%20Form.pdf

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>


3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
lifeblood. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.

So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. Barring
some egregious post from you, I'm not going to participate in these
little fiestas. I do think that the judgments you've shown in these
posts reflect poorly on you as a person and as a medical professional.
For you to throw around professional terminology like "differential
diagnosis" as a tool of argument is IMO a shabby stunt, particularly
when you know it to be a sham. So enjoy yourself with the other people
you're playing with. The floor is yours to do with as you wish.

I'm withdrawing from this confabulation. I suspect you'll do your
abnormal normal thing and hang your macro at the end. Have at it.

Pastorio
</quote>


4. verity about Chung
---------------------

On 03 May 2010 13:17:32 GMT, ver...@gefinden.com wrote:
<quote>
Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

May God bless and protect and heal.
</quote>


5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:52:44 -0700, GreatSageItchy <GreatSa...@null.com>
wrote:

<quote>
ANDREW B. CHUNG IS A TOTALLY EGOCENTRIC, TOTALLY ARROGANT, INSANE,
WHACK-JOB. HIS ATTRACTION TO RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY IS ENTIRELY THE
ATTRACTION OF OPPOSITES. ANDREW CHUNG WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
WHEN CAMELS FLY THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE, AND COWS FLY TO THE MOON.
CHUNG IS A COCKROACH INFESTATION AND DESTROYER OF USENET*. DO NOT FEED
COCKROACHES. (*See sci.med.cardiology)

BOTTOM LINE ON CHUNG: ALL EGO, NOTHING BUT EGO. PURE ARROGANCE.
TOTALLY UNREPENTENT ASSHOLE SPAMMER.
TAGS: Andrew B. Chung, WDJW, sci.med.cardiology, Emory University,
WDJW.net, 2PD-OMER Approach, total egoist, insane, internet creep,
usenet #1 asshole, certifiable sick asshole, human garbage, closet
homosexual, erectile dysfunction, MANBLA, young boys, molestation,
chikan, pervert, pedophile, extreme fundamentalist Christian asshole,
pseudo-christian, "Jesus is LORD" aka "EGO Christianity", psychopath,
totally arrogant spammer, usenet cockroach, stalker, satanic demon,
egomaniac, ladyboy, "chicks with dicks", "God loves fags", "Jesus is
LORD GOD KING BUFU".

Chung's Favorite Newsgroups:
alt.EGO-Christianity.Jesus.is.LORD.GOD.KING.BUFU
alt.prettyboy.loves-Jesus-and-cock
alt.ladyboyChung.sucks.cock.for.Jesus
alt.fuck.my.ladyboy.poosy
alt.bottom.bitch.for.Jesus

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung of Emory University:
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"Death to the imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of China."
"Death to the fascist bandits and insects Hu Jintao, and his running
dogs, the Communist Party of China."
Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom."
"Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dal

</quote>

6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp

<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist

Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/

Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)

As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime, and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.

This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall silent.

You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.

Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what they are
doing.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

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</quote>

Andrew Ben-Hua Chung does know very well about stalking, and about how criminal
it is. And, still, Andrew Ben-Hua Chung is one of the meanest and most
disgusting stalkers in the whole Net.

The attorneys of state in Atlanta have homework to do!


7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:

<quote>
From: Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Re: Being mercifully kind (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing
***************************************************************************
body (anorexia) & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...
***************************************************************************

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:04:45 -0500
Message-ID: <hil5gd$s2u$1...@news.datemas.de>


Sightwalker pridefully said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg

> Being mercifully kind

Fact #1, you are not being merciful when you call people liars without
clearly showing the lies.

> (WDJW) and praying for Jimmy's perishing body (anorexia)

Fact #2, as you have never seen my body you can only "perishing body"
perhaps as, "...appointed unto men once to die..." which would put your
body in the same class as you say you are praying for mine?

> & perishing mind (pathological lying) ...

Fact #3, you have as of yet shown a definitive lie, so the perishing
mind seems to be yours because of your delusions.

Fact #4, if you follow Christ charlie you'll never *hunger*, for it is
written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that
cometh to me shall never hunger..." Jno 6:35

Fact #5, we who have been reading your posts see you are at best using
the groups for self serving purposes, selling books and stroking your
ego, this is shown by the fact you cross post your quack science to the
religious groups, and your cult religion to the science groups.

Jimmy "telling the truth" Alpha
</quote>


8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
-----------------------------------------

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:54:33 -0500, Jimmy Alpha <jimmy...@operamail.com>
wrote:
(emphasize added by me)

<quote>
sightwalker with a phd said:
http://musformation.com/SkinnyCat.jpg
> It is when we are in accord with a message of reconciliation that we
> become healthier (hungrier) than ever.

Andrew, follow Christ and you will relieve that chronic *hunger*, if in
fact it's true and not just more touting your many capitalistic
endeavors?
It is written: "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
********************************************
life: he that cometh to me shall *never* hunger..."
***************************************************
Jno 6:35
Jimmy Alpha
</quote>


Also note this:

>Le 2010-01-13 06:44, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD a écrit :
>> This gentile Christian disciple
>
>is happy to let his "lord" kill and torture these people :
>
>http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=starvation&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
>
>Chung is diseased.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg


9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
---------------------------------------------------------------

Here is the facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung:


On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:52:25 -0800 (PST), Andrew <white...@gmail.com> wrote:

<quote>
6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.
</quote>


10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung preaches hate-crime
and wants people to be killed.
---------------------------------------------------------

Endlessly repeating his insane shit, Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's real target is
people to be murdered:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:00:12 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
>of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>
>Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>
>Andrew <><

One more example, 18.2.2011:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,
sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily WDJW Health Tip for 02/18/11
Message-ID: <4vnsl69vtcdav5tbu...@4ax.com>
X-Complaints-To: ab...@easynews.com
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:02:48 -0500
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
</quote>

One more example, 19.2.2011:

<quote>
Subject: Re: WDJW status for 02/18/11 ...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <eeca3280-9687-4b3b...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
</quote>


One more example, 8.4.2011:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,
alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Being blessed right now really is wonderful (Luke 6:21) ...
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <26ee3d54-6528-4609...@r14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2591d6198130cf33?

May GOD annihilate all who like you who would anonymously propagandize
that "hunger is starvation" with fires from Heaven right now, in the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
[...]
</quote>

11. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be killed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:50:55 -0800, Great Sage Itchy
<GSi...@itchyandscratchy.com> wrote:

>Chung already has his place in God's heavenly palace picked out. He
>will sit in the throne to the left of God, while "The Risen" "LORD"
>Jesus Christ sits on the right (because of His "victory"?).


And Satan Andrew ben Hua Chung already made a list of "convicts" which he wants
to be killed by god:

[Sample taken on February, 20th., 2011]
http://www.heartmdphd.com/convicts/

<quote>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist

Good afternoon!

The purpose of this page is to list our dear friends
****************************************************
and neighbors who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
*********************************************************

They are at a crossroads in their life. They are in danger of becoming demons if
they unwisely choose to blaspheme HIM. Please pray for these folks. "It is my
heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job to convict and my job to
love." -- Reverend Billy Graham


Philip
Madison (convicted 11/28/06 --> stricken 1/20/07)
Mark T.
"Panama Floyd" (convicted 10/24/06 --> stricken with HIV)
Al Klein
Denis Loubet
Cary Kittrell (convicted 10/27/06 --> stricken from birth)
David H. (aka "Big Dave")
Barry O'Grady
Kumar
"Olrik"
Peter J. Ross
Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06 --> deceased 04/01/07)
Donna Kupp
Kate (aka "TigerLily")
Mike Painter
"Hatchetmama"
"Nemo"
"JessHC"
Jeff Utz
"Oldus Fartus"
"Köi-Lö"
"Odd Neighbor"
"Lost Soul"
Mike Gray
DKW
Frank Mayhar
Robibnikoff
"Chadwick Stone©"
"Ghod"
"Free Lunch"
"Yang"
"Provoker"
Tom "Tdub" Williams
"Em"
"Barbara's Cat"
"Raven1"
Kevin "Beav" Maxfield
"Azaliah" (aka Pastor Dave)
Don Kirkman (Convicted 12/22/06 --> Stricken with CAD in 1998)
BDK
Bill M.
Tony
Shawn Hirn
~Tanya
Ken Wood
"lestat"
JLS
"Jaguar"
"Owl"
"Flowerchild8245"
"Warren G. Harding"
Martin Phipps
Patrick Humphrey
"Scott Joyce"
"Satyr"
DaveJ
"Habshi"
"Ma¢k"
"Kilmer"
"Guy"
HD Lee
Chris Johnson
"Sherahdicus"
"Bungalow Steve"
"Text Medium No. 5"
"TransWench"
Harry
Peter van Velzen
Charles Dikkens
Aunt Martha
Syd Levine
GaryG (convicted 1/15/07 --> stricken 3/15/07)
James Hajicek
"old man joe"
Vernon
"jitter"
"Kadaitcha Man"
Roy Mock (r m)
Grandpa Chuck
Pete Stapleton
"Ernst Primer"
"Russell McDade"
"Blash"
"Jude+Alexander"
Steve O (convicted 1/28/07 --> stricken in 1967)
Terry Austin
Randy (aka Pulpitfire or ®andy)
Paul Duca
"BatGuy"
"SameAsB4"
Lars Eighner
"Doc Smartass"
"Zap"
James (bir...@allvantage.com)
Chris Johnson (again)
Stephen Anderson ( Zerubbabel )
"Parsifal"
"the_Host"
"platothelapdog"
M. Ranjit Mathews
Darrell Stec
Martin
"Mistylien"
Peter Aitken
"The Bookman"
"Widdershins"
Lew Bates
Frank Hildner
James R. Hunt (BlackDruid)
Sarah548
Susan
Diane Ball (The Operator)
Richard Periut
Paul L
Joseph Littleshoes
JZW
Paul D. Wright
"JoeSpareBedroom"
"New Jack Ruby"
"Barry"
George Chen
Lionel
"Gatekeeper"
"Hawki"
Hannele
BobD
"Cubit"
"Bud"
"towelie"
Johnnie McCoy
Andrew W.
"BubbaGump"
Glenn (servitum or owd)
Robert Weldon
Bill Dunkenfield
"the 14th disciple"
Gary
Robert Schuh
Chuck Stamford
Kevin
"Eskimo Joe"
"Bob Officer"
Bob Blaylock
Will, T2
Jay Levine
Kevin Bertsch
jim
Evelyn Ruut
Jeanne (Haggis)
Richard Catto
Kathy Claytor
Nico
Martha(MI)
ab...@hotmail.com
Vernono O
Michael F. Poellot
Loretta Eisenberg
George M. Carter
Shawn Hirn (again)
L.T. David
Cameron (runlikeanantelope)
Alan S.
Bill (Frisbee®)
John (Abrams1117)
Miz Daisy Cutter
Pete
Marten Kemp
Notan
Frank t2
TC
John Williamson
Joe Smith
theBeaver
Peter Larsen
Larry (ls...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu)
John P.
Rev. BR Collins
Geoff
Dale A. Solomonson
JHD
zxcvbob
CM
Thorsten Schier
Davybear
tatman
Ferd Farkel
Quentin Grady
Michelle Malkin
Mark Thorson
Steve Young
Cary Kittrell (again)
Helen Back
Don Kirkman (again)
Mike (em)
Julie Bove
L. Roberts
Doug Freese
Global Warming
Kathy Griffin (convicted 09/08/07 --> stricken 2003)
Kenneth Doyle
Percent(%)
Marsha
Juliet (WaCoder)
Elvira
Frank (listener)
Assime
Fester
Michael Vick
Aaron
GH
Peter Barber
Shearwater
Manatee
Susan (flav...@verizon.net)
Sami
Patsie Hatley
B'in'yamin C'r'amer
Dr. Phil
Doug
DarkSentinel
Small Giant
Kelly (Luv4Yisroel)
Fastmoggy
Rose
Chris Malcolm
Mystified One
DigitalMortal
Billy Colburn
Zob
John Williamson
Epicurus (Tervicz)
Studemania
Wendy Baker
Lurfys Maw
monkfish
weatherwax
Phobos
Fred Jones
Athena
Albert Andrascik
Lisa C (Blackrots)
Ted
Adonis
Mordecai
Douglas (Protoman)
Maggie
Stan-O
John Weatherly
Alan C.
John N.
Citizen Jimserac
Fred Thomas
Matt Parish
Pro-Humanist
Dan Listermann
Carole
Peter B.
Reverent Fear of GOD the Father.


Overturning the Conviction.

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</quote>


See this details:
<quote>
The purpose of this page is to list our dear friends
and neighbors who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit.
*********************************************************
</quote>

So, quite obvious, Satan Ben Hua Chung considers himself to be the Holy Spirit.

What next? Does he have a gun?

12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is nothing but an insane liar. See here:

emorycardiology.com as checked on Feb, 12th., 2011:

<quote>
Tribute to Emory Cardiology

Good evening!

This is my personal tribute to an institution at the forefront in bringing about
new developments in the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular disease. As
these pathological entities become better understood in terms of molecular and
cellular biology, diagnostic, therapeutic, and preventative cardiology
approaches will change dramatically in coming years. I anticipate that the Emory
Division of Cardiology will remain at the cutting edge by recruiting and
retaining internationally recognized experts. Of particular note is their track
record in clinical cardiology established by Drs. R. Bruce Logue and J. Willis
Hurst; in interventional cardiology established by Dr. Andreas Gruentzig and as
led by Dr. John Douglas; and in vascular biology and medicine by the research
group established by Dr. R. Wayne Alexander in 1988.

More recently, Emory investigators have completed the landmark COURAGE Trial
under the leadership of Dr. Bill Weintraub that is certain to change the face of
cardiology in America. I will remain one of their biggest fans.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
***********************
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist
Author of Be Hungry (now in its second printing!)
John 15:13 <><
</quote>

No one would be such an idiot to pay Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung 1 Million
Dollars AND TO LET CHUNG STILL HAVE HIS BULLSHIT ON THAT DOMAIN.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung spits on the Ten Commandments.

13. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung tramps on dying patients and on dead patients.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine. He tramps on dying patients and on dead
patients.

See here:

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (Bob Pastorio)
Usernames and passwords are exclusively for folks involved in investigating Bob
Pastorio (past...@rica.net). Sign Guestbook · Guestbook by GuestWorld ...
www.heartmdphd.com/pastorio.asp - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day as a ...
14 Apr 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio dying on April Fool's day is a sign from
GOD ... In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio: ...
heartmdphd.com/Love/TheTruth/ - Cached

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (Libel)
30 Nov 2010 ... With malice presumably motivated by a personal hatred of the
2PD-OMER Approach published on this web site, Mr. Pastorio did willfully ...
www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp - Cached

"April 1st: National Atheist's Day." - sci.med.cardiology | Google ...
1 Apr 2007 ... dear Bob (this one) Pastorio, is taken from the world on this
day. ... Especially the family of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Bob/ - Cached

Walk Don't run - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
22 Dec 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio did not have long in retrospect: ... You
will soon know just as Pastorio now knows that indeed Jesus is GOD ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Fester/ - Cached

Please pray for the soul of dear convicted neighbor Don Kirkman ...
29 Oct 2007 ... Pastorio: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob. Bob was also
pathologically untruthful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/libel.asp ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/DonKirkman/ - Cached

Ping: Dr. Daniel Palestrant, founder and CEO of Sermo. - sci.med ...
2 Dec 2007 ... reminding us of our dearly depart Bob (this one) Pastorio, who is
presently being eternally tormented in hell. ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForDon/ - Cached

Think About It - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
30 Oct 2007 ... They were cued up for our dearly departed Bob (this one)
Pastorio... http:// HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ... who died inauspiciously on
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell/ - Cached

Daily Spirit-guided thought for 12/20/07. - sci.med.cardiology ...
20 Dec 2007 ... Bob (this one) Pastorio, who was not hungry (therefore was not
being blessed by GOD) the days before his untimely demise inauspiciously on ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForFerd/ - Cached

HeartMDPhD.com - Atlanta Cardiology Information Portal
24 Oct 2006 ... Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06 -->
deceased 04/01/07). Donna Kupp · Kate (aka "TigerLily") ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/ - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Hypothesis becomes Spiritual Law ...
3 Apr 2007 ... In memory of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/ Convicts/Bob. As for knowing who are the very elect, ...
heartmdphd.com/HolySpirit/Proof/ - Cached

Proof by LORD Almighty GOD: fulfilled prophecy. - sci.med ...
22 Nov 2007 ... "Bob Pastorio, you do not have much time left" -- Andrew, in the
Holy Spirit. Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement: ...
heartmdphd.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy/ - Cached

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 - sci.med.cardiology | Google Groups
11 Jan 2011 ... The same way I knew that our dearly departed Bob (this one)
Pastorio > did not have much time left. Then that is EVIL of you to tell me "You
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/CrazyFour/ - Cached
Please pray for the endangered soul of dear convicted neighbor ...
21 Dec 2007 ... You remind me of our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio
because you do not have much longer either: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/
...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/PrayForRobert/ - Cached

HeartMDPhD.com - Atlanta Cardiology Information Portal
Bob Pastorio (convicted 10/30/06 --> stricken 12/24/06 --> deceased 04/01/07).
Donna Kupp · Kate (aka "TigerLily") · Mike Painter · "Hatchetmama" ...
heartmdphd.com/convicts/ - Cached

Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: The truth prevails and remains ...
2 Apr 2007 ... neighbors: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts. In memory of our
dearly departed Bob( this one) Pastorio: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob ...
heartmdphd.com/Convicts/Frank/ - Cached

The HeartMDPhD.com Cardiology Web Site (History Behind the 2PD ...
Bob Pastorio (was a retired chef who hated the 2PD-OMER Approach) "I think it's
perfectly well scientifically substantiated, based on a reasonable ...
www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp - Cached - Simhed


14. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
------------------------------------------------------

<quote>
Reply-To: "Peter B" <.@.>
From: "Peter B" <.@.>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Dr. Hildner's letter to Dr. AB Chung, original no comments of mine.
Chung can not delete.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:06:17 -0700
Lines: 3
Message-ID: <4c7aafaa$3...@news.x-privat.org>

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.


After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.


Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
more.


Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?


Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
your colleagues.


Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.


Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
</quote>


15. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
------------------------------------------------------------------------

One example:

<quote>
Subject: Re: WDJW status for 02/18/11 ...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <eeca3280-9687-4b3b...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
[...]

> The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> places in the world ...

Lie.

Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
government money with a government web site in a country where there
is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:
</quote>


16. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung claims to have sold the domain

emorycardiology.com

for 1 Million Dollar. But fact is: the text is framed:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Tribute to Emory Cardiology </title>
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://tinyurl.com/a4dwl" frameborder="0" />
************************************************************
<frame frameborder="0" noresize />
</frameset>
<!-- pageok -->
<!-- 04 -->
<!-- -->
</html>

This shortened link of above

http://tinyurl.com/a4dwl

expands to :

http://www.heartmdphd.com/ec/

,which is nothing but a subdirectory on Satan Ben Hua Chung web-space.

17. How did Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung forge all his medical exams?
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A) Example 1:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Patiently praying here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:56:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <ce5eb41a-7a2a-47d8...@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com>
[...]
Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero.
</quote>

This is Great Sage Itchy's comment on this damned stupid statement:

"Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
knows. You show almost NO real medical knowledge. You have no
experience to speak of. How you were able to fool Emory U. and get
through medical school is a mystery. They must have known you were not
right in the head. I'm guessing that they were afraid to throw you out,
as they should have, because of your religious fanaticism, and possible
backlash from far-right religious elements in the community.
Every word you type in these groups is a lie. Everything about you is a
LIE. You are a disturbed creep, and a dangerous and evil person."


B) Example 2:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,misc.health.diabetes,alt.support.diabetes
Subject: Wonderfully hungrier ...
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:02 -0500
Message-ID: <ifnsm65p451pt4bgn...@4ax.com>

Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be
accompanied by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire
to eat real food even **before** the eating happens.
</quote>


How on earth did Satan Ben Hua Chung pass his medical exams? It seems more and
more that he forged his exams.

How on earth can a medical chamber sit silent on their behinds in regard of such
an insane criminal like satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung as a member in their lines!?


18. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up breastfeeding
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
and foetus nouriture via umbilical cord
---------------------------------------


<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Patiently praying a 31st time here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <125225c3-26de-4955...@w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com>


> Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
> and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
> knows.

Correct.

This does mean that their being hungry as evident by their being able
to take to the breast does not mean they are starving for they have
indeed been getting adequate nutrition parenterally via the maternal
circulation.
</quote>


How can a person so damned stupid as Satan Ben Hua Chung still be a member of
the medical chamber?


19. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung libels and defames Dr. Frank Hildner
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> tried to threaten me. He wrote:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Patiently praying a 4th time here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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[...]
Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death list so they
would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the U.S. to
be charged with libel & defamation:
</quote>

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung in public libeled and defamed Dr. Hildner.
See here: 3 of the postings I found:

A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159


The details:
A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife,sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism
Subject: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth.
Date: 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700
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John wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
> <spamsu...@google.com> wrote:
>
> >"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> >news:zlDvg.174619$F_3....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
> >
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
> >>> Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
> >> and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> >In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.
>
> Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
> first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
> guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
> leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
> attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
> roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
> before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

<quote>
04-24-2007, 03:22 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Guest
Re: Truth frightens the untruthful.

Mike Painter wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> > Mike Painter wrote:
> >> Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>> I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew
> >>> B. Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.
> >>>
> >>> Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear it.
> >>>
> >>> DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!
> >>>
> >>> Hawkeye-X
> >>
> >> For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare
> >> thing and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.
> >
> > He is frightened. If he weren't, he would put it down in writing by
> > showing up here.
>
> I've been around the medical world for a long time and know that not having
> privileges means you are a very, very poor doctor.

Dr. Frank Hildner apparently lost his privileges at Miami hospitals
because his poor patronizing bedside manner led to many lawsuits
against him and not just because of his incompetence at identifying
non-occlusive coronary disease. Yes, he subsequently moved his
practice from Dade County to Ocala.

Still praying for him and for you, dear Mike.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>


C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

sci.med.cardiology

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Prepare the way for the LORD...
Date: 14 Jul 2006 12:38:24 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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percy wrote:
> Hawkeye-X wrote:
>
> > On 13 Jul 2006 20:43:59 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > <nosp...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hawkeye-X wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:49:41 -0600, John <john9212...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:40:54 -0600, Hawkeye-X
> >>>><hawkeyex-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have in my hand an official complaint form from Georgia Board of
> >>>>>Medical License.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Care to shut up now before I mail it in? You have 24 hours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here is a sample letter:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>08/04
> >>>>>COMPLAINT FORM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Person(s) Requesting Investigation Person To Be Investigated
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Name Physician's Full Name (First and Last)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Address Physician's Address
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>______________________________________
> >>>>>Phone Number Physician's Phone Number
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Give a brief statement of the facts with dates. Use additional
> >>>>>sheets as necessary with copies of relevant documents. PLEASE SEND
> >>>>>COPIES ONLY. MATERIALS WILL NOT BE RETURNED.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>PATIENT'S FULL NAME: _______________________________________________
> >>>>>(It would be helpful if you could include the patient's date of birth
> >>>>>and Social Security number.)
> >>>>>DATE OF BIRTH ____________________ SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
> >>>>>_____________________
> >>>>
> >>>>Gee, I wonder whose name you're going to put in under "Patient's full
> >>>>name". You're not his patient, are you? You're not going to lie, are
> >>>>you? So you have to leave it blank. I wonder what bin they'll file
> >>>>it into?
> >>>>
> >>>>Blessings,
> >>>>John
> >>>
> >>>I'll say John Doe.
> >>
> >>That'll go over real well.
> >>
> >>
> >>>They're not going to bin it after I send them
> >>>copies of Chungboi's rantings. They'll be FORCED to look at it
> >>>thoroughly.
> >>
> >>You are forgetting that Georgia is in the middle of the Bible belt.
> >>The vast majority of folks around here especially the doctors are
> >>born-again Christians.
> >>
> >>Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
> >>
> >>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >>Andrew B. Chung
> >>Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> >>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
> >
> >
> > 12 Hours now. Will you shut your fat mouth? A John Doe has probably
> > seen you and will testify against you. And it does not have to be a
> > patient, btw, it just has to be a person that has been monitoring you
> > for a couple of months, and that's me. You have ranted and spouted the
> > word of Jesus too much, and i don't give a shit if Georgia is in the
> > middle of a Satan belt, you are guilty of a conduct unbecoming your
> > profession, and I know a lot of cardiologists here in my city that
> > will agree with me.
> >
> > You have 10pm your time to either put up or shut up.
> >
> > Hawkeye-X
>
> You may want to cc a copy of your package to Dr. Hildner at the Central
> Florida Heart Institute, the place where chung was fired from (after 88
> days).

Actually, Dr. Hilder was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards. He
still can use the cc to perhaps motivate him to lose some weight. He
has a lot of visceral adiposity. It is my wish that he not suffer from
further CV events.

> Just to keep him informed. I'm sure an email address for the above
> institution won't be hard to find.

His email address used to be rocket...@aol.com

Still praying for him and for you, dear Vicki.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

</quote>


D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

<quote>
04-24-2007, 02:13 AM #47
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Re: Prepare the way for the LORD...
Don Kirkman wrote:
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1153010767....@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>:
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> >> article <1152982278.5...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>:
> >> >Hawki wrote:
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1152916919.4...@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>
> >> >> how dumb do you think the readers are??
>
> >> >You are pretty clueless if you don't know what it means when a younger
> >> >doctor helps another considerably older, slower, and visually impaired
> >> >doctor clear out his office and subsequently settles into this office
> >> >space which has the name plate of the new younger doctor replacing the
> >> >one of the older doctor.
>
> >> It usually means the senior doctor is being moved to a better office,
> >> making room for the youngster who otherwise might have to operate out of
> >> a broom closet.
>
> >I helped the retired doctor move his belongings to his car.
>
> There are only two possible explanations: "the retired doctor" was not
> Dr. Hildner (who was still there after you were terminated) or you are
> lying. Which one do you choose?

The truth.

I know Dr. Hildner to be a retired physician who stopped seeing
patients back in 2001 even if he might still be receiving mail at CFHC
as one of the founding shareholders thereby justifying his still being
listed on their web site.

Still praying for you, dear Don.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
</quote>


E)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/36a002ca903b999a?dmode=source

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.support.diet.low-carb,
alt.atheism,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: IM ASKING FOR DONATIONS FOR HEART SURGERY
Date: 15 Oct 2006 05:45:45 -0700
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Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> > Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> >>>>>>> Al Klein wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Revocation would be permanently recorded as such and not as
> >>>>>>>>> "null and void" in the online Florida Medical Board database:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/irm00profiling/searchform.asp?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nor would it be marked "null and void" if they still considered
> >>>>>>>> you qualified to practice medicine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually, it would be marked "null and void" only if the reason
> >>>>>>> is just the physician electing not to pay the licensing fees.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From the web site:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "NULL AND VOID - the licensed practitioner failed to renew their
> >>>>>>> licensure status for two renewal cycles, resulting in their
> >>>>>>> license expiring. Practitioner no longer obligated to update
> >>>>>>> his/her profile data."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ... as compared to ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "REVOKED - the licensing board or department disciplined the
> >>>>>>> licensed practitioner and his/her license was removed. The
> >>>>>>> practitioner is not authorized to practice in the state of
> >>>>>>> Florida. The practitioner is not obligated to update his/her
> >>>>>>> profile data."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> )Being asked to surrender your
> >>>>>>>> license is just a polite fiction for "revoked".)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Such a license would be marked as such. See above.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unless a deal was made that you would not renew your license in
> >>>>>> exchange for not having it revoked.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is not an uncommon practice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hopefully, you realize that being untruthful here means you just
> >>>>> libeled the entire Florida Medical Board which is comprised of
> >>>>> various folks who have dedicated their lives to law enforcement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once again, I assert that it is possible you made a deal not to
> >>>> renew your license in exchange for not having to go through the
> >>>> process that would lead to its revocation.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, it's a not uncommon practice, and there's nothing
> >>>> libelous about discussing it. The medical board does it, the state
> >>>> bar does it, even the FAA does it. Those three are the limit of my
> >>>> seen-it-with-my-own-two-eyes experience; but, as a matter of fact,
> >>>> I understand it is routinely done in other fields as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> The question is, is that what happened to you?
> >>>
> >>> No.
> >>>
> >>> The Florida Medical Board were sympathetic because my employers
> >>> have a history with them that is consistent with what they had
> >>> angrily posted on-line via the HeartMDPhD.com web site that is now
> >>> also archived in Google:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?
> >>>
> >>> So, instead, I received written reminders to renew my license during
> >>> the year before it lapsed.
> >>
> >> Was your license to practice ever suspended in the State of Florida?
> >
> > Thankfully, no.
>
> Did you ever enter into any kind of agreement regarding your license or
> about your freedom to practice in the state of Florida.

Thankfully, no. Laus Deo !

Again, there was no need because the truth always prevails.

HE is invincible.

> > Nor was there ever the possibility because it remains my choice to
> > continue to side with the truth against my former employers.
> >
> > The truth always prevails. HE is invincible.
> >
> > Laus Deo !
> >
> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> > Amen !
> >
> > Laus Deo ! !
> >
> > Marana tha ! ! !
> >
> >> Are you currently practicing medicine?
> >
> > Thankfully, yes...
> >
> > ... without pause since being licensed to practice in Georgia in 1995.
> >
> > Specifically, I continue to serve people in my community as a
> > cardiologist.
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> That's not what I asked you, Chung.

You received extra information after your question was answered.

> I asked you if you're currently practicing medicine.

And I answered your question.

> Let me be more specific. Do you have a clinical cardiology practice with
> regular hours, regular staff, regular patients?

Thankfully, yes. Laus Deo !

> Or is everything you do centered around the Wellness Foundation and that
> moronic diet of yours?

Everything I do is centered around LORD Jesus Christ.

It remains my choice to continue walking with Christ Jesus, Whom I love
with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

> > Laus Deo !
> >
> > GOD is great !
> >
> > Holy is HIS name !
> >
> > Worthy to be praised !
> >
> >> Do you have admitting priviledges in any Georgia hospital?
> >
> > Thankfully, my patients have the freedom to receive in-patient care
> > from any hospital of their choosing in the Atlanta metropolitan area.
> > None have ever been denied such in-patient care when they have needed
> > it albeit the need has been rare for any one given patient per GOD's
> > infinite will. Laus Deo !
>
> No hospital privileges for you, eh, Chung?

Incorrect. Your leading question is consistent with our earlier
observation that you have been untruthful (see below) and with your
intent to deceive.

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b1957ab18d3c93f1?
> >
> >> I read your cv, and it does not appear that you have practiced
> >> medicine in a clinical setting since leaving Ocala.
> >
> > In truth, my CV does not describe Ocala.
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/ac_cv1.asp
>
> I wasn't asking about Ocala, but now that you mention it...

Correct. You made the statement above that you read about my history
"since leaving Ocala" in my CV.

> I lived in DeLand until last March, Chung. I worked for an old,
> respected law practice there.

Did you leave because they found you to be untruthful as we observe you
here ?

> I know some attorneys in Ocala. In case you're wondering, just to
> satisfy my own curiosity, I do plan to ask what they know about you.

You would be wiser to ask them about what they know about Dr. Frank
Hildner because he has been in more legal trouble requiring much more
legal defense-work (reason for his moving from Miami to Ocala to
retire) than I have:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?

Printing out Dr. Hilder's message should serve well to jog the memories
of your Ocala attorney friends because it created quite a public outcry
back in 2001 with Ocalans picketing CFHC.

> > Bottomline: You are untruthful.
> >
> > If your intent was to deceive, you are by definition a liar.
> >
> > GOD knows what is in your heart and will judge you accordingly.
> >
> > Your bearing false witness is forgiven as far as I am concerned.
>
> I have borne no false witness. I have asked questions, and I have stated
> some facts.
>
> Where's the false witness in that?

See above.

> >>>>> May GOD keep you heart beating to give you time to understand
> >>>>> this, dear neighbor Rhonda whom I love unconditionally.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't let it concern you. My heart is beating just fine.
> >>>
> >>> That was what Steve Irwin thought up until the last moment:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a594498b8fefec9b?
> >>
> >> Everyone dies. Some sooner, some later.
> >
> > Those who have placed their faith in LORD Jesus Christ thereby
> > receiving GOD's love into their heart possess eternal life and will
> > never taste death.
> >
> >>> Again, may GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time
> >>> to understand all of this, dear neighbor Rhona whom I love
> >>> unconditionally.
> >>
> >> As I said, my heart is fine, and when it's my time to go, I will go,
> >> regardless of your prayers or lack thereof.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to pray on your behalf.
>
> And it remains mine to laugh at you.

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

> Here's a newsflash, Chung: I had you in my killfile, and you continued
> to morph.

My handle has not changed.

> Bad idea.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time to
understand this, dear neighbor Rhonda whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
</quote>


21. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study
New facts ahout the damages he caused to patients
----------------------------------------------------

In his (now) latest idiocy Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung claims having done a study
with - oh, read it word for word:

<quote>
a clinical study held out of Emory University that
***************************************************
enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.
***************************************************
</quote>

How big an idiot can someone be to make that claim, which is so stupid that
everyone can realize the idiocy immediately?

Here are the 2 passages of the posting:

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,
sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: *Praying here for Ace's deluded reprobate mind ...
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 06:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <dfebd267-5ec9-4d88...@x10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
[...]

> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:
>
> For which there is no clinical study.

Actually, there has been a clinical study held out of Emory University
that enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. It remains
this physician's choice to not publish it since it pales in comparison
to the comparably sized but much longer duration 40 year clinical
study by the Great Physician, Who is this physician's Boss, Who
published this in the Bible with the miraculous results of 100%
efficacy (Deuteronomy 8:4). This choice to not publish results that do
not add to what is reported in the Bible would be this lead
investigator's right. Truth is simply reality.
[...]

> > The smartest way to do this is http://WDJW.net/NotDiet (i.e.
> > restricting food choices) but rather to http://WDJW.net/Guard the body
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of real food.
>
> Which is apparently not endorsed by any other physician ...

Lie.

This physician's LORD, Who is the Great Physician, is another
physician and the concept of one right daily amount (omer) for
everyone is by His design as revealed by what is written at Exodus
16:16. Laus Deo for His allowing this physician working in
collaboration with his physician colleagues at Emory University
( http://EmoryIMVC.org ) to discover in 1997 that an omer of real food
*********************************************
weighs 32 oz. All bona-fide physicians who know about the 32 oz of the
*************
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach have given their tacit approval
about it as evident by none either writing or speaking about an
alternative right daily amount of real food.
</quote>


The part which I underligned means that already in 1997 Satan Andrew Ben Hua
Chung was in religious delirium. That is extremely important because it shows
the incidents, which happened 2001 at the "Central Florida Heart Center"

Central Florida Heart Center
3310 Sw 34th Street
Ocala, FL 34474

(that is FOUR YEARS LATER after 1977), in a new light. It shows that what Satan
Andrew Ben Hua Chung committed at the clinic ALREADY was driven by insanity. So,
the damage, which Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung did to the patients there, was not
caused by some medical misinterpretation, but instead by an extremely strong
WILL to do things accordings to his idiotic religious bullshit.

I strongly advise all patients of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
************************************************************
to sue him to death.
********************


21. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
--------------------------------------------

Hunger kills braincells!
*************************

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells show that. They were made in
Germany in about 2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS. And there are studies in the
USA. THEY ARE FACTS.

There are studies about hunger and brain shrinkage. Like this one:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9754441

<quote>
Psychiatry Res. 1998 Jun 30;82(3):171-9.
Proton magnetic resonance spectroscopy in acute, juvenile anorexia nervosa.

Schlemmer HP, Möckel R, Marcus A, Hentschel F, Göpel C, Becker G, Köpke J,
Gückel F, Schmidt MH, Georgi M.

Institute for Clinical Radiology Mannheim, Faculty of Medicine, University of
Heidelberg, Germany. h.sch...@dkfz-heidelberg.de
Abstract

Anorexia nervosa is usually associated with a shrinkage of the brain that is at
least partially reversible with weight gain. The pathogenesis of this brain
abnormality is unclear. The purpose of this study was to investigate potential
alterations in localized proton magnetic resonance (1H MR) spectra of anorectic
patients immediately after an interval of excessive weight loss. Twelve patients
and seventeen control subjects were examined. Water suppressed 1H MR spectra
were recorded from two voxels placed in the thalamus and in the
parieto-occipital white matter. The spectra of ten patients could be evaluated.
Comparing patients and control subjects, significantly higher signal intensity
ratios of choline containing compounds (Cho) relative to total creatine (Cr) as
well as significantly lower ratios of N-acetyl-aspartate (NAA) relative to Cho
were found in the white matter region. We hypothesize that these results
indicate an abnormal starvation, associated membrane turnover, which
predominantly takes place in the white matter. No evidence for neuronal
degeneration was found in the thalamus or in the white matter region.

PMID: 9754441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
</quote>


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/eat.20840/abstract
<quote>
Brain tissue volume changes following weight gain in adults with anorexia
nervosa

Christina A. Roberto MS1,2,*, Laurel E. S. Mayer MD3, Adam M. Brickman PhD4,
Anna Barnes PhD5, Jordan Muraskin BA4, Lok-Kin Yeung BA4, Jason Steffener PhD4,
Melissa Sy BA, Joy Hirsch PhD, Yaakov Stern PhD4, B. Timothy Walsh MD3

Article first published online: 19 MAY 2010

DOI: 10.1002/eat.20840

Abstract
Objective:

To measure brain volume deficits among underweight patients with anorexia
nervosa (AN) compared to control participants and evaluate the reversibility of
these deficits with short-term weight restoration.
Method:

Brain volume changes in gray matter (GM), white matter (WM), and cerebrospinal
fluid (CSF) were examined in 32 adult women with AN and compared to 21, age and
body mass index-range matched control women.
Results:

Patients with AN had a significant increase in GM (p = .006, ?2 = 0.14)
and WM volume (p = .001, ?2 = 0.19) following weight restoration.
Patients on average had lower levels of GM at low weight (647.63 ± 62.07 ml)
compared to controls (679.93 ± 53.31 ml), which increased with weight
restoration (662.64 ± 69.71 ml), but did not fully normalize.
****************************

Discussion:

This study suggests that underweight adult patients with AN have reduced GM and
WM volumes that increase with short-term weight restoration. © 2010 by Wiley
Periodicals, Inc. Int J Eat Disord 2010;
</quote>

Facit: Hunger leads to a irreversible damage to the brain.
##########################################################

22. DO NOT FORGET: FIGHT HUNGER!
--------------------------------

CHRISTIAN RELIEF FUND:
http://www.compassionlink.org/html/food_relief.html#CRF

STOP HUNGER NOW:
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer?pagename=who_we_are
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

HUNGER IS UNACCEPTABLE:
http://www.austinfoodbank.org/hunger-is-unacceptable/
http://peacenowar.net/newpeace/images/stories/hunger-sm.jpg

30 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR DIE OF HUNGER:
http://www.austinfoodbank.org/images/HiUlogo.gif

.

Happy Oyster <>

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wrote:

>Amlodipine would be one established alternative to verapamil.


Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is an impostor. His "medical advice" is insane crap
and can cause severe harm, even death.

Happy Oyster <>

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>Thank you Andrew. One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to

Why do you believe a guy who give false medical advice?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:
>
In reference to this physician's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prayer
list:

http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x
>
> ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> online deathlist.
>
> Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?

Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list so


they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the
U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:

http://tinyurl.com/libel-defamation

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bda9bd5e0d4f589d?

Aribert Deckers (aka not-so-Happy Oyster) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > not-so-Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >
> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>
> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?

> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?

Again, this physician prays for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Aribert, a new heart
and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be
born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for

diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince minds:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Happy Oyster <>

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On Sat, 14 May 2011 15:45:36 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Atlanta police know that


The Atlanta police does know very well, that Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a
danger to the public.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Bat Shit KrAzY
Insane Quack
I approved this message
Andrew B. Chung, MF/SOB/BS
Board-certified in all forms of Quackshittery

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
Ken simply because we really love him as our LORD commands (John

15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Ken wrote in part:

> Imma Insane

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/88e8e69d05552aa0?

Yes you are insane, Ken.

Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
> different results"
> Albert Einstein ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/77109afdfa9455f5?
... and ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd4a3310cdc6e165?

Actually, insanity is simply a condition of being disconnected from
reality falsely thinking fiction is truth thereby suffering from
delusions.

For example, your quoting Albert Einstein's fictional definition of
insanity multiple times and applying it as if it were true serves well
as evidence that you really are becoming insane.

Ken wrote earlier in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
psychopathology:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3f56b038f17f681b?

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

And, so this bona-fide physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) freely
chooses to continue to pray for you as outlined per the amazing


Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Ken, a new heart and a


new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born
again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

Happy Oyster <>

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>Only the truth, Who is Jesus,

That impossible nonsense.

Derek F

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On 14/05/2011 22:53, Happy Oyster < wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:52:49 +0100, Derek F<lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Andrew. One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
>
> Why do you believe a guy who give false medical advice?

He qualified as a doctor,. You just qualified as a cross posting Troll
with time on your hands.
Derek

Happy Oyster <>

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On Mon, 16 May 2011 21:06:34 +0100, Derek F <lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:

>On 14/05/2011 22:53, Happy Oyster < wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:52:49 +0100, Derek F<lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Andrew. One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
>>
>> Why do you believe a guy who give false medical advice?
>
>He qualified as a doctor,.

He is an insane criminal who has a deathlist with more than 260 persons who he
wants dead.
--
"Der Kölner Dom ist groß und gothisch,
der Knochenkult ist religiotisch."

http://www.reimbibel.de

Dr. Peter Griffin

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"Derek F" <lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zryzp.28462$Vp.2...@newsfe14.iad...

If you listen to Chung's advice, you will die. Far earlier than you
probably intended.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:
>
In reference to this physician's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prayer
list:

http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x
>
> ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> online deathlist.
>
> Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?

Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list so
they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the
U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:

http://tinyurl.com/libel-defamation

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bda9bd5e0d4f589d?

Aribert Deckers (aka not-so-Happy Oyster) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > not-so-Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >

> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and


> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>

> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?

> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?

Again, this physician prays for you as outlined per the amazing


Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Aribert, a new heart
and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be
born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince minds:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Derek F

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On 17/05/2011 00:10, Happy Oyster < wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 21:06:34 +0100, Derek F<lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 14/05/2011 22:53, Happy Oyster< wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:52:49 +0100, Derek F<lordp...@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Andrew. One Cardiologist suggested that I go back to
>>>
>>> Why do you believe a guy who give false medical advice?
>>
>> He qualified as a doctor,.
>
> He is an insane criminal who has a deathlist with more than 260 persons who he
> wants dead.
From the posts on here that is quite understandable:-)
Derek

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Derek F wrote:
> Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:

In reference to this physician's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prayer
list:

http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x

> > ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> > online deathlist.
>

> From the posts on here that is quite understandable:-)

And yet this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) clearly doesn't
want them to die as evident by his praying for their salvation.

Therefore, Aribert's lie is in the face of a miracle :-)

Happy Oyster <>

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On Tue, 17 May 2011 03:18:57 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>And yet this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) clearly doesn't
>want them to die as evident by his praying for their salvation.
>
>Therefore, Aribert's lie is in the face of a miracle :-)

Satan Andrew Ben Hua chung is a swine. Here is what I put in the FAQ: his very
own deathlist.

Good afternoon!


Overturning the Conviction.

--

Happy Oyster <>

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On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:13:02 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list so
>they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the
>U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a criminal. He for years now libels and defames
Dr. Frank Hildner. See the details in the FAQ:

[...]
Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death list so they


would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the U.S. to
be charged with libel & defamation:

</quote>

A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

sci.med.cardiology

</quote>


D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

The truth.


E)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/36a002ca903b999a?dmode=source

Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> > Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> >>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> >>>>> Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

HE is invincible.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?

See above.

Amen.

> Bad idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
</quote>


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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I'm just a Bat Shit KrAZy Quack and I approved this message

"Andy Chung, MF/SOB/BS"

pnyikos

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On May 17, 1:13 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
wrote:

> ... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
> Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
> commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

On what grounds do you consider his soul to be perishing?

> Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:
>

> In reference to this physician's (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) prayer


> list:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x
>
>
>
> > ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> > online deathlist.
>
> > Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?
>
> Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list so
> they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the
> U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:

Libel and defamation are civil, not criminal offenses except under
unusual circumstances. So aren't you being overly judgmental here in
talking about what the police would be justified in doing?

I saw your list, which includes Kadaitcha Man, a person I have
encountered and have a largely positive impression of, even though he
does have a very irritating style. [However, I am far more concerned
with morals than with etiquette on Usenet.]

Can you please tell me why you listed him? If you prefer not to post
the answer here, you may e-mail me either at the address below or the
one from which I am posting.

Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
nyikos @ math.sc.edu

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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pnyikos wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > ... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
> > Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
> > commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.
>
> On what grounds do you consider his soul to be perishing?

He needs to be born again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident by his not being
able to say with his mouth (Romans 10:9) the declarative sentence
"Jesus is LORD" ( http://WDJW.net/1Cor123).

> > Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:
> >
> > In reference to this physician's (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) prayer
> > list:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x
> >
> > > ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> > > online deathlist.
> >
> > > Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?
> >
> > Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list so
> > they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the
> > U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:
>
> Libel and defamation are civil, not criminal offenses except under
> unusual circumstances.

Publicly giving false libelous & defamatory testimony under false
pretenses to law enforcement such as police in this case would cause
them to possibly become involved here in the enforcement of
international law. President Obama has encouraged more collaborative
efforts with InterPol to bring cyber-terrorists like Aribert Decker to
justice.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are

"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

This has all been about http://WDJW.net/TheTruth

May GOD continue to save the souls of those who are around this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) by giving them a new heart and
a new spirit (Ez11:19-20&36:26) so that they would be born again of
water and Spirit (Jn3:3&3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by Him so that
they would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the Truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist

Ace♠

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> On May 17, 1:13 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
> > Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
> > commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.
>
> On what grounds do you consider his soul to be perishing?

On the grounds of his subjective interpretation of Romans 10:9. Many
Bible teachers will disagree with it (and none will agree that an
"omer" weighs exactly 32 oz), but that doesn't matter to Mr. Chung,
because he's always correct - because all of his interpretations are
directly of the Holy Spirit. So you see, it's really not Mr. Chung
saying someone's soul is perishing, or [fill in judgment here] it's
the Holy Spirit Himself saying it and Mr. Chung typing it. Got it?

A*

Happy Oyster <>

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On Thu, 19 May 2011 02:01:43 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Publicly giving false libelous & defamatory testimony under false
>pretenses to law enforcement such as police in this case would cause
>them to possibly become involved here in the enforcement of
>international law. President Obama has encouraged more collaborative
>efforts with InterPol to bring cyber-terrorists like


like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung, who dances on the graves of his patients.

The following is the FAQ about him. And do note the libeling and harassing done
by Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung against a number of persons, one of them being Dr.
Frank Hildner.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a plain criminal, and nothing else.


Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.


FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
========================================

30.4.2011

0. Preword
1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung preaches hate-crime
and wants people to be killed.

11. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be killed

12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments
13. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung tramps on dying patients and on dead patients.
14. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
15. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
16. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
17. How did Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung forge all his medical exams?
18. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up breastfeeding and
foetus nouriture via umbilical cord

19. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung libels and defames Dr. Frank Hildner

20. Satan Adrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study.
New facts about the damages he caused to patients
21. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
22. Do not forget: fight hunger!

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote:

sci.med.cardiology

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.cardiology/2007-01/msg00014.html

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_11783501/27080031Complaint%20and%20Waiver%20Form.pdf

http://www.mombu.com/medicine/heart/t-just-something-for-many-of-you-to-think-about-1451523.html

Pastorio
</quote>

</quote>

http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp

<quote>


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Atlanta Cardiologist

Cyber-stalking.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminology/cyberstalking/

Special Message to Visitors (and Cyber-stalkers)

As a web site like HeartMDPhD.com becomes more "famous," it was inevitable that
both the site and its author would become the target of harassment by those who
have become obsessed with either. This is cyber-stalking, it is a crime, and a
good discussion about it can be found by clicking here.

This has happened, but rather than ignore this criminal behavior, I feel it is
my civic responsibility to make the occurrence of such criminal behavior
publicly known here after reporting it to the proper authorities in order to
discourage it else others may fall victim to similar behavior by these and/or
other perpetrators. Crime is effective only when victims choose to fall silent.

You can find a partial list of those folks from whom I have received harassing
electronic messages by clicking here. Some of their handiwork can also be seen
in my guestbook. I have also posted sample email headers from these
cyber-stalkers in order to fully publicize their crimes.

Please know that I have forgiven these people for they know not what they are
doing.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional
love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1
Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

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> Being mercifully kind


Also note this:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p238/aslave2thegrind/famine.jpg

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:00:12 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
>of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>

>Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>
>Andrew <><

One more example, 18.2.2011:

<quote>


From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,
sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily WDJW Health Tip for 02/18/11
Message-ID: <4vnsl69vtcdav5tbu...@4ax.com>
X-Complaints-To: ab...@easynews.com
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:02:48 -0500
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
</quote>

One more example, 19.2.2011:

<quote>
Subject: Re: WDJW status for 02/18/11 ...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:37:51 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <eeca3280-9687-4b3b...@f2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
[...]

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
</quote>


One more example, 8.4.2011:

<quote>


From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:

sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,
alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Being blessed right now really is wonderful (Luke 6:21) ...
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <26ee3d54-6528-4609...@r14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2591d6198130cf33?

May GOD annihilate all who like you who would anonymously propagandize
that "hunger is starvation" with fires from Heaven right now, in the
name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
[...]
</quote>

11. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be killed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good afternoon!


Overturning the Conviction.

12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

See here:

One example:

Lie.

emorycardiology.com

http://tinyurl.com/a4dwl

expands to :

http://www.heartmdphd.com/ec/

A) Example 1:

<quote>


From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:

sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Patiently praying here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:56:05 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <ce5eb41a-7a2a-47d8...@z3g2000prz.googlegroups.com>
[...]
Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero.
</quote>

This is Great Sage Itchy's comment on this damned stupid statement:

"Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
knows. You show almost NO real medical knowledge. You have no
experience to speak of. How you were able to fool Emory U. and get
through medical school is a mystery. They must have known you were not
right in the head. I'm guessing that they were afraid to throw you out,
as they should have, because of your religious fanaticism, and possible
backlash from far-right religious elements in the community.
Every word you type in these groups is a lie. Everything about you is a
LIE. You are a disturbed creep, and a dangerous and evil person."


B) Example 2:

<quote>


From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,misc.health.diabetes,alt.support.diabetes
Subject: Wonderfully hungrier ...
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:02 -0500
Message-ID: <ifnsm65p451pt4bgn...@4ax.com>

Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be
accompanied by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire
to eat real food even **before** the eating happens.
</quote>


How on earth did Satan Ben Hua Chung pass his medical exams? It seems more and
more that he forged his exams.

How on earth can a medical chamber sit silent on their behinds in regard of such
an insane criminal like satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung as a member in their lines!?


18. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung so drunk that he even mixes up breastfeeding
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
and foetus nouriture via umbilical cord
---------------------------------------

<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:

sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.diabetes,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.prayer
Subject: Patiently praying a 31st time here for Aribert's perishing soul ...
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <125225c3-26de-4955...@w7g2000pre.googlegroups.com>


> Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the umbilical cord
> and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology in High School
> knows.

Correct.

This does mean that their being hungry as evident by their being able
to take to the breast does not mean they are starving for they have
indeed been getting adequate nutrition parenterally via the maternal
circulation.
</quote>


How can a person so damned stupid as Satan Ben Hua Chung still be a member of
the medical chamber?

[...]
Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death list so they


would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to the U.S. to
be charged with libel & defamation:

</quote>

A)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2cf6d53ca48f5c64?dmode=source

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217

C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

B)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51217


C)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ee7cfaf1e5a51f6c?dmode=source

sci.med.cardiology

</quote>


D)
http://www.disease-treatment.com/showthread.php?t=51159

The truth.


E)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/36a002ca903b999a?dmode=source

HE is invincible.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7bca75138f2a601?

See above.

Amen.

> Bad idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
</quote>


20. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung fakes a medical study


New facts ahout the damages he caused to patients
----------------------------------------------------

In his (now) latest idiocy Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung claims having done a study
with - oh, read it word for word:

<quote>
a clinical study held out of Emory University that
***************************************************
enrolled hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.
***************************************************
</quote>

How big an idiot can someone be to make that claim, which is so stupid that
everyone can realize the idiocy immediately?

Here are the 2 passages of the posting:

<quote>

Lie.


22. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage
--------------------------------------------

Hunger kills braincells!
*************************

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9754441

DOI: 10.1002/eat.20840

Abstract
Objective:

Discussion:

.

--

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.

Aribert Deckers (aka Not-So-Happy Oyster) wrote:
>
In reference to this physician's ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) prayer
list:

http://tinyurl.com/4pcwg3x
>
> ... wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has in his
> online deathlist.
>
> Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?

Atlanta police know that a prayer list is not a death (curse) list...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f9d0348afabb61?

...so they would be justified to have you possibly extradited here to


the U.S. to be charged with libel & defamation:

http://tinyurl.com/libel-defamation

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bda9bd5e0d4f589d?

Additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a332f19d1380d4c7?

Aribert Deckers (aka not-so-Happy Oyster) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > not-so-Happy Oyster wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >> >

> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and


> >> > other heart disease patients:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
> >>

> >> Why don't you bloody liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/919bac965960728f?

> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.
>
> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/18b6cea52f0504a3?

Again, this physician prays for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://WDJW.net/Salvation earlier:

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Aribert, a new heart
and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be

born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry really is wonderful as proven by five lines of evidence:

(1) Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
(2) Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
(3) Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
(4) Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
(5) Factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21f7a54a0f52f174?

http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist

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>... and encouraging born again

But to be born again, a person first must be dead. And THAT is exactly what
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants: that persons be killed. He has a deathlist
online with more than 260 names of persons who he wants dead.

--
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zu befriedigen." Johannes Chrysostomos, 349-407, gr. Kirchenlehrer

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Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants the death of more than 260 persons who he has
in his online deathlist.

Can the police of Atlanta prevent him running amok?


The Atlanta police headquartier is awake 24 hours a day:

http://www.atlantapd.org/

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Submit an anonymous tip on-line or over the phone.

(404) 577-TIPS
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