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The most evil person in this world is satan, who cannot say "Jesus is
LORD" for it is written that "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by
the Holy Spirit" (1 Corinthians 12:3) Who is the Spirit of Truth and
not a deceiving spirit.

Really? Poor Andy, no wonder his confusion.

Satan is not a person. Satan is the fallen angel Lucifer.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.

faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>
> "The most evil person in this world is satan, who cannot say "Jesus is
> LORD" for it is written that 'no one can say "Jesus is LORD" except by
> the Holy Spirit' (1 Corinthians 12:3) Who is the Spirit of Truth and

> not a deceiving spirit." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>
> Really?

Yes.

From Job 1:7...

The LORD said to satan, "Where have you come from?"

Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going
back and forth in it."

*** end Scripture reading ***

faux-christian Peter B wrote:

> Matthew ?:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery,
> sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/becb1eadb2445a9b?

The chapter is 15.

Thus, the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) convicts you
about your own heart (Jeremiah 17:9) being behind all your errors and
deceit as explicated earlier (Matthew 15:19).

You really need your stony heart (Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:20) changed so
that you would be born again (John 3:3 & 5) as evident by your not
being able to publicly (Philippians 2:11) say "Jesus is LORD" (1
Corinthians 12:3) with your mouth (Romans 10:9):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff4db1285334b4e3?

faux-christian Peter B wrote in part:

> 4. In the evening they would be flooded by quail. That was their meat. No
> minimum, no maximum.
> 5. All were to eat their fill.

Incorrect.

It is written that when folks went against the LORD's prescribed
http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER (Exodus 16:16) Approach and chose to eat more
than they needed (i.e. eating their fill by eating quail meat) that He
"struck them down with a severe plague" (Numbers 11:33) in the middle
of their still eating and having meat in their mouth (i.e. gluttony
and not greed).

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bdea1e73518d08b5?

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>
> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?

The written account of how the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth
(John 16:13) inspired this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has
remained unchanged from the outset.

> Here it is in its entirety.
> QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
> ========================================================
>
> < outdated web site material that did not credit the LORD snipped>
>
> About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt.
> Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
> consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food per
> day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to
> assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing
> folks.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9720084402b6996d?

"But when He, the Spirit of Truth, comes, He will guide you into all
truth. HE will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears,
and He will tell you what is yet to come." -- LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth (John 16:13)

Amen.

Yes, the LORD gets all the glory for His http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach :-)

faux-christian Peter B. wrote:

> Stop all your cross posting to non-related NG's, like all the Christian
> related ones, the diabetes related (they really do not want to see you and
> all the associated posts there) and confine your posting to this cardiology
> NG.

It remains wise to be ever mindful of WDJW, both thinking/saying/
writing **and** doing what the LORD wants instead of what others want.

>In exchange I will confine your FAQ's here as well and I will refrain from
>replying to your posts unless they specifically mention me. You may reply as
>many times as you feel necessary to the FAQ's.

It is written that a lamp should not be covered.

>You have enough web sites and other blogs with which to plague people with
>your idea's.

Again, it is written that a lamp should not be covered.

>Oh, and if God did freely give you help and insight when you were dead then
>why are you charging others to find out what He said to you?

The publisher sets the price for the books.

>Jesus commanded His disciples to take no gold, silver or copper, neither
>Tunic not sandals for the work they were doing in Healing, Miracles, casting
>out of Demons. Jesus said, Freely you received freely give.

It is written that Apostle Paul was paid for making tents.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40083220fca980ac?

faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote (edited to
make truthful):
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >
> > Those who have read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com
> > **know** for a fact that Peter B.'s soul is perishing starting with
> > the fact that he lied about this physician being married to someone
> > other than E-Lee, who is the mother of his daughter Celestin:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/412e938f84f33959?
>
> True, you have rejected that which is false, have continued to write truthfully, and I
> have not read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com else I would have known
> that you are married to a woman named E-Lee and not Dorothy, who is your sister.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5cc1cf4316e06a0d?

May the above editing be instructive in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.

And now even faux-christian Peter B. is realizing what we, who have
been made discerning by the Holy Spirit, have known about his
condition all along:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ab7b50ae92c869e?

Laus Deo :-)

Yes, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) still has on the full
armor of GOD as evident by his being http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry

faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote asking why
Georgia expunged HeartDoc Andrew's criminal records:

> I wonder why? What was there? (State of Georgia)

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6a27a0d2f6d281b?

Those who really want to know will purchase and read the amazing book
titled "Be Hungry:"

http://www.amazon.com/Be-Hungry-Andrew-Chung/dp/0595456413/

faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.

Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump Syndrome).

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49995e9f071cd581?

Behaving like an idiot is bad behavior:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/803e83b8610d8b4b?

faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>28. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
> >> >>-------------------------------------
> >> >>Dr. Chung's contract at the Central Florida Heart Center was
> >> >>terminated *for cause* after less than four months of
> >> >>employment.
> >> >>
> >> >>29. What does "for cause" mean?
> >> >
> >> > Source of question:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/999756db0faad96c?
> >> >
> >> > "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it." -- retired
> >> > physician, Dr. Hildner, who was replaced by Dr. Chung

Source of quote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?

Proof of Dr. Hildner's retired status:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

> >> For just cause you were eliminated.
> >
> > If it were just cause, Dr. Hildner would not have written "you lost
> > your job because you talked yourself out of it."
>
> Wrong

It remains an experience shared by all that when there is just cause
for action that such just cause is invariably publicized from the
outset. For example, the unprovoked Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was
publicized from the outset as just cause for U.S. Operation Desert
Storm against Iraq:

http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml

Truth is simple :-)

It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:

Primum non nocere

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6aa75b17b4c7ec70?

faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?

No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?

faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE

It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)

>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.

Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:

http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit

faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"

Amen.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?

> Omer = 3.3 liters.

Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.

Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.

An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.

Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?

Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?

Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.

Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:

2 Peter 2:22

Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://WDJW.net/CV

Here is another's opinion about you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?

Bottom line concerning you, Peter:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff4db1285334b4e3?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?

May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...

http://WDJW.net/Status

and then...

http://WDJW.net/Update

so that there will be...

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946

Historical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946

Medical:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946

Psychological:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946

So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?

Peter B

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> ... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
> faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
> our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
>
> faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>>
>> "The most evil person in this world is satan, who cannot say "Jesus is
>> LORD" for it is written that 'no one can say "Jesus is LORD" except by
>> the Holy Spirit' (1 Corinthians 12:3) Who is the Spirit of Truth and
>> not a deceiving spirit." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>>
>> Really?
>
> Yes.
>
> From Job 1:7...
>
> The LORD said to satan, "Where have you come from?"
>
> Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going
> back and forth in it."
>
> *** end Scripture reading ***

So you saying that a cow or horse that "roams" the earth is a "person"?

You should have started with the verse you mentioned....
1 Corinthians 12:3 (English Standard Version)
3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of
God ever says "Jesus is accursed!" and no one can say "Jesus is Lord" except
in the Holy Spirit.

Then you should have ended it there. Afterwards you should have admitted the
truth, that Satan is the fallen archangel Lucifer, or are you just ignorant
of the things of God.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 22, 2010, 8:53:31 PM9/22/10
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... and encouraging born-again (John 3:3 & 5) friends to also pray for
faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.

faux-christian Peter B wrote:
>
> "The most evil person in this world is satan, who cannot say "Jesus is
> LORD" for it is written that 'no one can say "Jesus is LORD" except by
> the Holy Spirit' (1 Corinthians 12:3) Who is the Spirit of Truth and
> not a deceiving spirit." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>
> Really?

Yes. That which speaks and roams here on Earth would be a person.
Some birds that can speak fly instead of roam and angels who can can
speak don't roam here on Earth.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/00eb781265997275?

From Job 1:7...

The LORD said to satan, "Where have you come from?"

Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going
back and forth in it."

*** end Scripture reading ***

faux-christian Peter B wrote:

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/becb1eadb2445a9b?

The chapter is 15.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff4db1285334b4e3?

Incorrect.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bdea1e73518d08b5?

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9720084402b6996d?

Amen.

(Exodus 16:16) Approach :-)

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