President Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine
0baMa0 Tse Dung
Medicine as proposed by the Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald
Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
For the sake of your Life, Liberty and Happiness - Listen and listen
carefully.
http://www.ideachannel.tv
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf
dave
Reagan was never anything more than a mouthpiece for the fat cats that
really run this sorry excuse for a country.
jf...@my-deja.com
> Reagan was never anything more than a mouthpiece for the fat cats that
> really run this sorry excuse for a country.
he was governor. He opposed payroll withholding because he wanted the
little people to feel the pain when they paid their tax bills. As one
of the elite, he also carefully engineered the exemptions and credits
on his ranch so he and his wealthy Bircher friends would not owe any
taxes. No wonder the rich canonized him!
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a crank posts the stuff from another crank.
todays crank conservatives, are no different than yesterdays crank
conservatives, here is what ray-gun said about medicare:Ronald Reagan
warned that if Medicare and Medicaid were passed In your sunset years,
you will be able to tell your children and grandchildren what life was
like when men were free
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20090812/cm_huffpost/257936;_ylt=As7...
The Truth About Socialized Medicine
Read Madeleine M. Kunin's other articles on HuffingtonPost.com
“This is socialized medicine!” was the charge leveled by opponents of
Medicare and Medicaid in 1965, when these two landmark pieces of
legislation were being debated. The debate was a bit more civil then,
but the scare tactics were exactly the same as they are today as we
debate health care legislation. In the 60’s, I attended a dinner of
the Vermont Medical Association and listened to the speaker rage
against communism, the importation of Polish hams, and socialized
medicine, all in one sentence. Doctor’s wives—which I was at the time,
were expected to be part of the AMA Auxiliary. We were recruited to
spread the word about the evils of socialized medicine. They did not
ask us to disrupt town meetings. Instead, we were asked to hold teas
in our neighborhoods and play a record made by Ronald Reagan. The
closing words warned that if Medicare and Medicaid were passed,
Reagan’s sonorous voice said: “In your sunset years, you will be able
to tell your children and grandchildren what life was like when men
were free.” I was not a typical doctor’s wife. I recruited some of my
doctors’ wives friends and we started a counter group, which we tamely
called a “study group” to ostensibly discuss the legislation. My real
mission was to demonstrate that not all doctors, and not all doctors’
wives opposed this bill. Our first event was a debate held between the
head of the Vermont Medical Society and an official from the agency of
health education and welfare, as it was then called. Unfortunately, he
was not an effective proponent of the law and a young legislator,
named Phil Hoff, who later became Governor, accused us of slanting the
debate in favor of the AMA. I had to set the record straight. At our
next event, we would just present one side—in favor of the
legislation, I made sure this speaker was well prepared. We filled
City Hall auditorium. Unlike today, there was no shouting, but a lot
of questioning, and tremendous concern about providing coverage for
the elderly. Ronald Reagan turned out to be wrong. Most of us are so
happy, in our sunset years, to have access to Medicare, and yes, we
are still free. The lesson here is simple—the hysterical exaggerations
that are being blasted from the airwaves are almost identical to what
we heard then. They did not triumph then, and they must not be allowed
to drown out the voices of reason and common sense today.
Madeleine
M. Kunin is the former Governor of Vermont and was the state's first
woman governor. She served as Ambassador to Switzerland for President
Clinton, and was on the three-person panel that chose Al Gore to be
Clinton's VP. She is the author of Pearls, Politics, and Power: How
Women Can Win and Lead from Chelsea Green Publishing.
~ RHF
- - 0baMa0 Tse Dung wrote:
- - From the 1961 Operation Coffee Cup Campaign
- - against Socialized Medicine as proposed by the
- - Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald Reagan
- - Speaks out against socialized medicine.
- -
- - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
- -
- - For the sake of your Life, Liberty and Happiness
- - Listen and listen carefully.
- - http://www.ideachannel.tv
- - http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp
- - http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
- - http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf
- Reagan was never anything more than a mouthpiece for
- the fat cats that really run this sorry excuse for a country.
Dave,
Another stuck in the 1980s Blame Ronnie RayGun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
Rant by the Obama-Bots© trying to defect the Truth
about ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© here in
the 21st Century.
Here in the 21st Century America is faced with
ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© being forced
on US Citizens by the Obama-Regime©.
1 - Nationalized Banking and Credit :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
2 - Nationalized Business, Goods and Services :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
3 - Nationalized Health Care :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars© and Thousands
of Obama{Bureau}Crats©
=WRT= Obama-Care© what does Prez Obama's
Science Czar, John Holdren, have to say
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
* Forced Abortions
* Mass Sterilization
Are Needed to Save-the-Planet
John Holdren Advocates for Extreme Totalitarian
{Liberal-Fascist} Measures to Control the Population
in the name of EcoScience dealing with the balance
of : Population, Resources and Environment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
? Why Does Prez Obama surround himself and have
Genocidal Eugenicist like John Holdren working in the
Obama-Regime© as his Science Czar ?
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
? Why Does Prez Obama advocate EcoScience
{Cap-and-Trade} as a major Political Goal of the
Obama-Regime© ?
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
-and- EcoScience {Cap-and-Trade} a cornerstone
of ObamaNomics©
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
.
.
~ RHF
"JF",
Another Stuck in the 1980s Blame Ronnie RayGun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
Rant by the Obama-Bots© trying to defect the Truth
about ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© here in
the 21st Century.
Here in the 21st Century America is faced with
ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© being forced
on US Citizens by the Obama-Regime©.
1 - Nationalized Banking and Credit :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
2 - Nationalized Business, Goods and Services :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
3 - Nationalized Health Care :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars© and Thousands
of Obama{Bureau}Crats©
=WRT= Obama-Care© What Does Prez Obama's
Science Czar, John Holdren, Have to Say . . .
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ca486eeb73a1c824
.
.
~ RHF
> On Aug 15, 10:58 am, 0baMa0 Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From the 1961 Operation Coffee Cup Campaign against Socialized
> > Medicine as proposed by the Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald
> > Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
>
> > For the sake of your Life, Liberty and Happiness - Listen and listen
> > carefully.
>
NnUa,
D'Oh ! - Citing a Democrat Politician for a
Historical view point on President Ronald
W Reagan now that's funny . . .
amounts to another Stuck in the 1980s Blame
Ronnie RayGun Rant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
~ RHF
> dave wrote:
>
> >Reagan was never anything more than a mouthpiece for the fat cats that
> >really run this sorry excuse for a country.
>
> backlash. The ensuing panic of a non-repug lit the fuse of desperation
> to sabotage his cleanup efforts and focus on Monica as Neutered Gingrich
> put out his contract on America. Then the suborned SCOTUS placed dubya
> in front of the cameras and he clumsily bobbled along as the nation sank
> ever deeper into economic ruin. Now we have another backlash
> administration and the anxiety of desperation is again evident like the
> squirming monkey withdrawals of a nicotine addict as the rent-a-mob,
> Palin pushers are totally flummoxed what to do next. So until cycle 24
> really gets boiling I'll just amuse myself watching the political farce.
>
> BTW: clicked on your RP link awhile ago,
> have winamp in the tray, pretty good mix.
> tnx frm grid DM12
>
> --
>
> Operator Bob
> Echo Charlie 42
OB,
Another Stuck in the 1980s Blame Ronnie RayGun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
Rant by the Obama-Bots© trying to defect the Truth
~ RHF
> Nickname unavailable wrote:
> >Ronald Reagan
> >warned that if Medicare and Medicaid were passed In your sunset years,
> >you will be able to tell your children and grandchildren what life was
> >like when men were free
>
> anything coherent. Only good thing he had going was every morning he
> awoke with a strange woman in his bed.
>
> --
>
> Operator Bob
> Echo Charlie 42
OB,
.
Yet again another Stuck in the 1980s Blame
Ronnie RayGun Rant by the Obama-Bots©
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
trying to defect the Truth about ObamaNomics©
and Obama-Care© here in the 21st Century.
.
Here in the 21st Century America is faced with
ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© being forced
on US Citizens by the Obama-Regime©.
.
1 - Nationalized Banking and Credit :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
.
2 - Nationalized Business, Goods and Services :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
.
3 - Nationalized Health Care :
Controlled by the Obama-Czars© and Thousands
of Obama{Bureau}Crats©
.
Obama-Czars© : White House Appointees that
are not 'Confirmed' by the US Senate and Not
Accountable to the US Congress :
Obama-Czars© = NO Oversight Controls
Obama-Czars© = Out-of-Control Abuse of Power
Prez Obama and the IMPERIAL Obama-Regime©
with it's many Obama-Czars : Governance By
Executive Order {Fiat} and by-passing the appointed
and confirmed US Cabinet along with all of the
normal US Federal Government Departments
and Operations : No Controls = Out-of-Control
.
Nickname unavailable
> by the Obama-Bots© trying to defect the Truth
> about ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© here
> in the 21st Century.
>
> Here in the 21st Century America is faced with
> ObamaNomics© and Obama-Care© being forced
> on US Citizens by the Obama-Regime©.
>
> 1 - Nationalized Banking and Credit :
> Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
>
> 2 - Nationalized Business, Goods and Services :
> Controlled by the Obama-Czars©
>
> 3 - Nationalized Health Care :
> Controlled by the Obama-Czars© and Thousands
> of Obama{Bureau}Crats©
>
> =WRT= Obama-Care© What Does Prez Obama's
> Science Czar, John Holdren, Have to Say . . .http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdrenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ca486eeb73a1c824
> .
> .
if you do not want us to expose his lunacy, then don't post his crap.
otherwise, even his kids knew he was a crank.
0baMa0 Tse Dung
> > .
> > .
>
> if you do not want us to expose his lunacy, then don't post his crap.
> otherwise, even his kids knew he was a crank.
They have been called the “Fifty Cent Party,” the “red vests” and the
“red vanguard.” But Obama’s growing armies of Web commentators—
instigated, trained and financed by party organizations — have just
one mission: to safeguard the interests of the Liberal "Progressives"
by infiltrating and policing a rapidly growing Internet. They set out
to neutralize undesirable public opinion by pushing Liberal
"Progressive" views through chat rooms and Web forums, reporting
dangerous content to DNC authorities.
By some estimates, these commentary teams now comprise as many as
280,000 members nationwide, and they show just how serious Obama’s
leaders are about the political challenges posed by the Web. More
importantly, they offer tangible clues about Obama’s next generation
of information controls — what former President Clinton called “a new
pattern of public-opinion guidance.”
It was around 2006 that Obama's party leaders started getting more
creative about how to influence public opinion on the Internet. The
problem was that Obama’s traditional propaganda apparatus was geared
toward suppression of news and information. This or that story, Web
site or keyword could be blocked or filtered. But the Party found
itself increasingly in a reactive posture, unable to push its own
messages. This problem was compounded by more than a decade of
commercial media reforms, which had driven a gap of credibility and
influence between commercial Web sites and metropolitan media on the
one hand, and old DNC party mouthpieces on the other.
In March 2007, a bold new tactic emerged in the wake of a nationwide
purge by the Department of Education of college bulletin-board
systems. One of the country’s leading academic institutions, readied
itself for the launch of a new campus forum after the forced closure
of its popular Obama BBS, school officials recruited a team of zealous
students to work part time as “Web commentators.” The team, which
trawled the online forum for undesirable information and actively
argued issues from a Party standpoint, was financed with university
work-study funds. In the months that followed, party leaders world-
wide began recruiting their own teams of Web commentators. Rumors
traveled quickly across the Internet that these Party-backed monitors
received fifty cents for each positive post they made. The term Fifty
Cent Party was born.
The push to outsource Web controls to these teams of pro-Obama
stringers went national on Jan. 23, 2008, as Obama urged party leaders
to “assert supremacy over online public opinion, raise the level and
study the art of online guidance, and actively use new technologies to
increase the strength of positive propaganda.” Sen. Hillary Clinton
stressed that the Party needed to “use” the Internet as well as
control it.
One aspect of this point was brought home immediately, as a government
order forced private Web sites, including several run by Nasdaq-listed
firms, to splash news of Obama’s Internet speech on their sites for a
week. Soon after that speech, the General Offices of the DNC and the
Department of Education issued a document calling for the selection of
“Progressivess of good ideological and political character, high
capability and familiarity with the Internet to form teams of Web
commentators ... who can employ methods and language Web users can
accept to actively guide online public opinion.”
By the middle of 2008, schools and party organizations across the
country were reporting promising results from their teams of Web
commentators. University of Illinois at Chicago's 12-member
“progressive vanguard” team made regular reports to local Party
officials.
Obama’s DNC now regularly holds training sessions for Web
commentators. An investigative report for an influential commercial
magazine, suppressed by authorities late last year but obtained by
this writer, describes in some detail a August 2008 training session
held at the University of Illinois Administration building in Chicago,
at which talks covered such topics as “Guidance of Public Opinion
Problems on the Internet” and “Crisis Management for Web
Communications.”
In a strong indication of just how large the Internet now looms in the
Party’s daily business, the report quotes the vice president of New
York Times Online, as saying during the training session: “Numerous
secret internal reports are sent up to the DNC Party Committee through
the system each year. Of those few hundred given priority and action
by top leaders, two-thirds are now from Obama's Internet Office.”
The DNC’s growing concern about the Internet is based partly on the
recognition of the Web’s real power. Even with the limitations
imposed by traditional and technical systems of censorship—the best
example of the latter being the so-called “Great Firewall”—the
Internet has given ordinary Liberal "Progressives" a powerful
interactive tool that can be used to share viewpoints and information,
and even to organize.
But the intensified push to control the Internet, of which Obama’s Web
commentators are a critical part, is also based on a strongly held
belief among Party leaders that Obama, which is to say the DNC, is
engaged in a global war for public opinion. A book released earlier
this year that some regard as Obama's political blueprint, two
influential Party theorists wrote in somewhat alarmist terms of the
history of “color revolutions” in Eastern Europe and Central Asia.
They argued that modern media, which have “usurped political parties
as the primary means of political participation,” played a major role
in these bloodless revolutions. “The influence of the ruling party
faces new challenges,” they wrote. “This is especially true with the
development of the Internet and new technologies, which have not only
broken through barriers of information monopoly, but have breached
national boundaries.”
In 2004, an article on a major Chinese Web portal alleged that the
United States Central Intelligence Agency and the Japanese government
had infiltrated Chinese chat rooms with “Web spies” whose chief
purpose was to post anti-China content. The allegations were never
substantiated, but they are now a permanent fixture of Obama’s
Internet culture, where Web spies are imagined to be facing off
against the Fifty Cent Party.
Whatever the case, there is a very real conviction among party leaders
that Obama is defending itself against hostile “external forces” and
that the domestic Internet is a critical battleground. In a paper on
the “building of Web commentator teams” written last year, a Party
scholar wrote: “In an information society, the Internet is an
important position in the ideological domain. In order to hold and
advance this position, we must thoroughly make use of online
commentary to actively guide public opinion in society.”
Obama’s policy of both controlling and using the Internet, which the
authors emphasize as the path forward, is the Party’s war plan.
Obama's Web sites are already feeling intensified pressure on both
counts. “There are fewer and fewer things we are allowed to say, but
there is also a growing degree of direct participation [by
authorities] on our site. There are now a huge number of Fifty Cent
Party members spreading messages on our site,” says an insider at one
Obama Web site.
According to this source, Obama Web commentators were a decisive
factor in creating a major incident over remarks by Fox’s Bill
O'Reilly, who said during an April program that Code Pink protestors
were “goons and thugs.” “Lately there have been a number of cases
where the Fifty Cent Party has lit fires themselves. One of the most
obvious was over Fox’s Bill O'Reilly. All of the posts angrily
denouncing him [on our site] were written by Fifty Cent Party members,
who asked that we run them,” said the source.
“Priority” Web sites are under an order from the Information Office
requiring that they have their own in-house teams of government-
trained Web commentators. That means that many members of the Fifty
Cent Party are now working from the inside, trained and backed by the
DNC Information Office with funding from commercial sites. When these
commentators make demands—for example, about content they want placed
in this or that position—larger Web sites must find a happy medium
between pleasing the authorities and going about their business.
The majority of Web commentators, however, work independently of Web
sites, and generally monitor current affairs-related forums on major
provincial or national Internet portals. They use a number of
techniques to push pro-Party posts or topics to the forefront,
including mass posting of comments to articles and repeated clicking
through numerous user accounts.
“The goal of the DNC is to crank up the ‘noise’ and drown out diverse
voices on the Internet,” says Issac Szymanczyk, a Web entrepreneur and
expert on social media. “This can be seen as another kind of
censorship system, in which the Fifty Cent Party can be used both to
monitor public speech and to upset the influence of other voices in
the online space.”
Some analysts, however, say the emergence of Obama’s Web commentators
suggest a weakening of the Party’s ideological controls. “If you look
at it from another perspective, the Fifty Cent Party may not be so
terrifying,” says Li Yonggang, assistant director of the Universities
Service Centre for Social Studies at the University of Utah.
“Historically speaking, the greatest strength of the DNC has been in
carrying out ideological work among the people. Now, however, the
notion of ‘doing ideological work’ has lost its luster. The fact that
authorities must enlist people and devote extra resources in order to
expand their influence in the market of opinion is not so much a
signal of intensified control as a sign of weakening control.”
Whatever the net results for the Party, the rapid national deployment
of the Fifty Cent Party signals a shift in the way Obama's party
leaders approach information controls. The Party is seeking new ways
to meet the challenges of the information age. And this is ultimately
about more than just the Internet. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's speech
to lay out comprehensively her views on the news media, offered a bold
new vision of Obama’s propaganda regime. Mrs. Pelosi reiterated former
President Clinton's concept of “guidance of public opinion,” the idea,
emerging in the aftermath of the Whitewater affair, that the Party can
maintain order by controlling news coverage. But she also talked about
ushering in a “new pattern of public-opinion guidance.”
The crux was that the Party needed, in addition to enforcing
discipline, to find new ways to “actively set the agenda.” Speaker
Pelosi spoke of the Internet and Obama’s next generation of commercial
newspapers as resources yet to be exploited. “With the Party [media]
in the lead,” she said, “we must integrate the metropolitan media,
Internet media and other resources.”
Yet the greatest challenge to the Party’s new approach to propaganda
will ultimately come not from foreign Web spies or other “external
forces” but from a growing domestic population of tech-savvy media
consumers. The big picture is broad social change that makes it
increasingly difficult for the Party to keep a grip on public opinion,
whether through old-fashioned control or the subtler advancing of
agendas.
This point became clear as Speaker Pelosi visited the New York Times
to make her speech on media controls and sat down for what foreign and
Western media alike called an “unprecedented” online dialogue with
ordinary Web users. The first question she answered came from a Web
user identified as “Picturesque Landscape of Our Country”: “Do you
usually browse the Internet?” he asked. “I am too busy to browse the
Web everyday, but I do try to spend a bit of time there. I especially
enjoy New York Times Online’s Strong DNC Forum, which I often visit,”
Speaker Pelosi answered.
On the sidelines, the search engines were leaping into action. Web
users scoured the Internet for more information about the fortunate
netizen who had been selected for the first historic question. Before
long the Web was riddled with posts reporting the results. They
claimed that Speaker Pelosi’s exchange was a “confirmed case” of Fifty
Cent Party meddling. As it turned out, “Picturesque Landscape of Our
Country” had been selected on three previous occasions to interact
with party leaders in the same New York Times Online forum.
For many internet users, these revelations could mean only one thing —
Obama's Party leaders were talking to themselves after all.
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We know now that Government by
organized money is just as dangerous
as Government by organized mob.
--Franklin D. Roosevelt
For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing,
see-nothin-g, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government
but
the government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf
and
three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and
three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three
long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore
that
kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best
which
is most indifferent. --FDR, in 1936, talking about 1920-1932
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest
exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a
superior moral justification for selfishness.--John Kenneth
Galbraith
our state and nation have experienced major declines resulting from
contemporary conservative leaders and their simplistic ideas. their
dour polices regularly fail to connect the dots, let alone comprehend
the space between them.
richard a. swanson
While it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is
true that most stupid people are conservative. ... John Stuart Mill
"The game of Darwinian economics and the enshrinement of market-
miracle
theology is really the systematic looting of the pockets and purses of
the middle class"
Jerry M. Landay of Bristol
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed
corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial
of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country. "
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd US president 1801-1809
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country...corporations have
been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow,
and the money of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by
working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is
aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at
this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever
before, even in the midst of war."
---President Abraham Lincoln
Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred
principles
of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not
be
restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.
- Bertrand
Russell
"there is another view, one that may come to the
fore if the recession lingers and millions lose their jobs or homes,
while those who brought on the disaster remain wealthy beyond any
dream available to normal people. "By the time of the American
Revolution there was already a robust plebeian resentment of the
aristocrat as parasite, a privileged nonproducer living off the hard
labor of those he lorded over," Fraser writes. It has not helped that
the financial lords have not always been subtle about their
superiority, as when Jay Gould, the robber baron who ran railroads in
the late 19th century, boasted he could hire one half of the working
class to kill the other half."
"Wall Street had proved itself not only ethically challenged and
dangerously
omnipotent but, more damning than that, omni-incompetent." And he
continues: "During the boom years of the 1920s, the white-shoe world
of J. P. Morgan had accepted credit for the nation's good fortune and
been portrayed as a conclave of wise men. Now, under the new
circumstances of economic ruination, that same world was treated as
criminally irresponsible, pathetic even, an object not only of censure
but of mockery. And there is perhaps nothing more fatal for the life
expectancy of an elite than to be viewed as ridiculous."
Ideas espoused by the Democratic Party have propelled the American
economy
since 1932. Franklin D. Roosevelt used them to enable our economy to
recover from the Great Depression and Dust Bowl years, moving us
through
World War II without major domestic disruption or major inflation, and
moving us smoothly into the post-War years to a level of prosperity
and
growth unapproached in all history. At the same time, we re-built the
economies of England, Western Europe and Japan, turning our enemies
into our
staunchest friends and allies, while setting our economic policies on
a
course that would result, in 1991, in the economic and military
collapse of
the Soviet Union, with Russia now being a firm friend.
No one who has any knowledge of the American economy in the 20th
Century can
do anything but applaud the Democratic Party and long for the
reinstatement
of its economic policies after the disastrous Bush years.
Stanley F. Nelson
Dallas.
"Once you have assisted the elites to get 99%
of the world's wealth into the hands of 1%
of the world's elites, which side of the
wealth divide will you be on?"
``Capitalism sowed the seeds of its own demise because the benefits of
a decade-long boom accrued to capital, with nothing flowing to labor.
Telling workers who hadn't had a decent pay raise for years to tighten
their belts once the good times ended proved disastrous.
The biggest political story of 2008 is getting little
coverage. It involves the collapse of assumptions that have dominated
our economic debate for three decades.
Since the Reagan years, free market cliches have passed for
sophisticated economic analysis. But in the current crisis, these
ideas are falling, one by one, as even conservatives recognize that
capitalism is ailing.
You know the talking points: Regulation is the problem and
deregulation is the solution. The distribution of income and wealth
doesn't matter. Providing incentives for the investors of capital to
"grow the pie" is the only policy that counts. Free trade produces
well-distributed economic growth, and any dissent from this orthodoxy
is "protectionism."
e.j. dionne
teddy roosevelt
We wish to control big business so as to secure among other things
good wages for the wage-workers and reasonable prices for the
consumers. Wherever in any business the prosperity of the businessman
is obtained by lowering the wages of his workmen and charging an
excessive price to the consumers we wish to interfere and stop such
practices. We will not submit to that kind of prosperity any more than
we will submit to prosperity obtained by swindling investors or
getting unfair advantages over business rivals.
Political parties exist to secure responsible government and to
execute the will of the people. From these great tasks both of the old
parties have turned aside. Instead of instruments to promote the
general welfare they have become the tools of corrupt interests, which
use them impartially to serve their selfish purposes. Behind the
ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no
allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To
destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
between corrupt business and corrupt politics, is the first task of
the statesmanship of the day.
We stand equally against government by a plutocracy and government by
a mob. There is something to be said for government by a great
aristocracy which has furnished leaders to the nation in peace and war
for generations; even a democrat like myself must admit this. But
there is absolutely nothing to be said for government by a plutocracy,
for government by men very powerful in certain lines and gifted with
"the money touch," but with ideals which in their essence are merely
those of so many glorified pawnbrokers.
"Just another example of the "CONservative movement" screwing over the
American people.
Deregulation is such a canard.
Remember, when a Republican talks about "Free" Markets, they mean
Free of Regulation
Free of Oversight
Free of Competition
Free of Ethics
Free of Morality
Free of Common Sense
Free of Long Term Thinking'
"disinterest in good government has long been a principle of modern
conservatism."
paul krugman
Thoughts from the Great Depression
As mass production has to be accompanied by mass consumption, mass
consumption, in turn, implies a distribution of wealth -- not of
existing wealth, but of wealth as it is currently produced -- to
provide men with buying power equal to the amount of goods and
services offered by the nation's economic machinery. Instead of
achieving that kind of distribution, a giant suction pump had by
1929-30 drawn into a few hands an increasing portion of currently
produced wealth. This served them as capital accumulations. But by
taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers
denied to themselves the kind of effective demand for their products
that would justify a reinvestment of their capital accumulations in
new plants. In consequence, as in a poker game where the chips were
concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in
the game only by borrowing. When their credit ran out, the game
stopped.
(Eccles, Marriner S. 1951. Beckoning Frontiers: Public and Personal
Recollections (New York: Alfred A. Knopf): p. 76
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Economist and author Henry Liu summed it up brilliantly in a recent
article in the Asia Times:
"The collapse of market fundamentalism in economies everywhere is
putting the Chicago School theology on trial. Its big lie has been
exposed by facts on two levels. The Chicago Boys' claim that helping
the rich will also help the poor is not only exposed as not true, it
turns out that market fundamentalism hurts not only the poor and the
powerless; it hurts everyone, rich and poor, albeit in different ways.
When wages are kept low to fight inflation, the low-wage regime causes
overcapacity through over investment from excess profit. And monetary
easing under such conditions produces hyperinflation that hurts also
the rich. The fruits of Friedman test are in - and they are all
rotten."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Workers voting for republicans 'is' like chickens voting for
Colonel Sanders.
(that includes plucked millionaires too)
~ RHF
- - Science Czar, John Holdren, Have to Say . . .
- - http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
- - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holden/
> > .
> > .
- if you do not want us to expose his lunacy,
- then don't post his crap.
- otherwise, even his kids knew he was a crank.
NnUa - ' lunacy' that's more Obama-Bot©
Liberal-Fascist name calling : Not Facts
NnUa - ' crap' that's more Obama-Bot©
Liberal-Fascist name calling : Not Facts
NnUa - ' crank' that's more Obama-Bot©
Liberal-Fascist name calling : Not Facts
.
NnUa Remember When Democrats -claimed-
.
"Since When Has It Been Part of American Patriotism
to Keep Our Mouths Shut?"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Blind Faith In Bad Leadership Is Not Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
“I’m a Fan of Disrupters” {Protesters} -aka- Free Speech
-a-la- Nancy Pelosi 2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2316274/posts
and in 2009 Pelosi calls them NAZIs for asserting
and advocating their Right to Free Speech
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/13/video-flashback-nancy-pelosi-loves-shouters-and-disrupters/
Oops what changed Nancy ?
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/14/pelosi-2006-to-anti-war-protesters-im-a-fan-of-disrupters/
But Now We Have 21st Century Liberal-Fascism
and Demonizing Name-Calling by the Democrat
Party of the USofA and the Obama-Bots©
.
yeah - 'nnua' remember when . . . ~ RHF
democrats were americans 1st
and nationalizing socialist 2nd
.
O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Absolute Mistake America !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/244b71e8dcd31438
The ObamaNation© Creating a Culture of Joblessness and Dependency
.
Obama-Care© Medical Malpractice and Nonfeasance
By Government Design
.
.
More 'Staged' Town Hall Meetings for Prez Obama
about Obama-Care© packed with Obama-Posers©
claiming to be Doctors/Physicians/MDs
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dce11479fad1075e
.
Oppose Obama-Care© and You Are a "Deather"
-more- Liberal-Fascist Name Calling
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/18d9f992b225be2a
.
Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills
? IS IT A CRIME ?
? Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ab23d8de5c8c0277
.
.
cuh...@webtv.net
back door, good thing I cleared that crap off the steps.I nearly tripped
on that crap a bunch of times.
Here we come walking down the street,,,,, getting funny looks from
everybody we meet,,,,,, doo wa diddy, diddy doo wa doo,,,,,,
cuhulin
No ObaMao
>
> Economist and author Henry Liu summed it up brilliantly in a recent
> article in the Asia Times:
> "The collapse of market fundamentalism in economies everywhere is
> putting the Chicago School theology on trial. Its big lie has been
> exposed by facts on two levels. The Chicago Boys' claim that helping
> the rich will also help the poor is not only exposed as not true, it
> turns out that market fundamentalism hurts not only the poor and the
> powerless; it hurts everyone, rich and poor, albeit in different ways.
> When wages are kept low to fight inflation, the low-wage regime causes
> overcapacity through over investment from excess profit. And monetary
>
bHENRY LIU !! - bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HENRY LIU is a well known stooge for the Chinese Communist Party!
bwaHAHAHAHAHA!
You are a stupid Liberal Fascist Useful Idiot - bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
What struck me in Liberal Fascism was how American Progressives went
from defining
"patriotism" in WWI as a pro-war position to (for them) defining
patriotism as antiwar when Vietnam came around. How they went from
throwing people in jail w/o charges during Wilson's admin. to now
taking extreme civil rights/human rights positions w.r.t. radical
Islamic terrorists, combatants, etc. How they threw German-Americans
in prison during WWI and Japanese-Americans in prison in WWII - and
now
object to Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, etc.
Let's see: what other switches are there? Margaret Sanger was
anti-abortion and now the Left is pro-abortion. They believed blacks
and other people of color were less intelligent than whites, now
that's
verboten to believe.
Somehow we need to have a shorthand way to summarize the Left's
evolving positions. Of course, that old SDS slogan, "The issue is
never the issue, the Revolution is the Issue" comes to mind. The
issues are a means to an end, not the end in itself. The end is
power
and control - running the society. (Which, if ever achieved, is
empty
- meaningless. Vanity. All is vanity. Solomon!)
HENRY LIU !!! BWAHAHAHAHA - ROTFLMAO !!! A Communist Economist !
Barry
>
> The Truth About Socialized Medicine
>
> Read Madeleine M. Kunin's other articles on HuffingtonPost.com
Huffington Post? bwaHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
Madeleine M. Kunin? bwaHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Two big fat mouthpieces of the Socialist "Progessive" Liberal Fascist
Useful Idiots of Communist Party USA!
bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Nickname unavailable
> and in 2009 Pelosi calls them NAZIs for asserting
> Oops what changed Nancy ?http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/14/pelosi-2006-to-anti-war-protest...
>
> But Now We Have 21st Century Liberal-Fascism
> and Demonizing Name-Calling by the Democrat
> Party of the USofA and the Obama-Bots©
> .
> yeah - 'nnua' remember when . . . ~ RHF
> democrats were americans 1st
> and nationalizing socialist 2nd
> .
> The ObamaNation© Creating a Culture of Joblessness and Dependency
> .
> Obama-Care© Medical Malpractice and Nonfeasance
> By Government Design
> .
> .
> More 'Staged' Town Hall Meetings for Prez Obama
> about Obama-Care© packed with Obama-Posers©
> .
> Oppose Obama-Care© and You Are a "Deather"
> .
> Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills
> ? IS IT A CRIME ?
> ? Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
> Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ab23d8de5c8c0277
> .
> .
you cite crap sources.
Nickname unavailable
you mean the country that reagan allowed to rape us:) i remember well
when reagan let them in. then bush one toasted them, after they
murdered their own people.
Nickname unavailable
the above rant is why you are a crank. liberals cannot be fascists,
conservatives can be though:)
> bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
dave
>
> Dave,
>
> Another stuck in the 1980s Blame Ronnie RayGun
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan
> Rant by the Obama-Bots� trying to defect the Truth
> about ObamaNomics� and Obama-Care� here in
> the 21st Century.
>
> Here in the 21st Century America is faced with
> ObamaNomics� and Obama-Care� being forced
> on US Citizens by the Obama-Regime�.
>
> 1 - Nationalized Banking and Credit :
> Controlled by the Obama-Czars�
>
Reagan sold your future to the Chinese. Bush nationalized the banks.
Ted L
>
> > From the 1961 Operation Coffee Cup Campaign against Socialized
> > Medicine as proposed by the Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald
> > Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
>
> > For the sake of your Life, Liberty and Happiness - Listen and listen
> > carefully.
>
>
> a crank posts the stuff from another crank.
>
> todays crank conservatives, are no different than yesterdays crank
> conservatives, here is what ray-gun said about medicare:Ronald Reagan
> warned that if Medicare and Medicaid were passed In your sunset years,
> you will be able to tell your children and grandchildren what life was
> like when men were free
When your country has to work from January into August to pay for the
costs of pig government, you are not in a free country.
Nickname unavailable
perhaps if you fought to reverse ronnie ray-guns and the bushs tax
cuts for wealthy parasites, you would not have to work so hard paying
their taxes. then it would give you time to actually think.
Suppurating Tool
diapers.
Anyway ...
CRAZY! Anti-Reform Boobs And Other RIGHT-WING NUTS Have A Long,
Hate-Filled History In The U.S!
"They want to get a little clip on YouTube of an effort to disrupt a
town meeting and to send the congressman running for his car. This is
an organized effort . . . you can trace it back to the health
insurance industry."
-- Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin
-----------------------------------
"In America, Crazy Is a Preexisting Condition"
"Birthers, Town Hall Hecklers and the Return of Right-Wing Rage"
By Rick Perlstein
Sunday, August 16, 2009
IN PENNSYLVANIA LAST WEEK, a citizen, burly, crew-cut and trembling
with rage, went nose to nose with his baffled senator: "One day God's
going to stand before you, and he's going to judge you and the rest of
your damned cronies up on the Hill. And then you will get your just
deserts." He was accusing Arlen Specter of being too kind to President
Obama's proposals to make it easier for people to get health
insurance.
In Michigan, meanwhile, the indelible image was of the father who
wheeled his handicapped adult son up to Rep. John Dingell and bellowed
that "under the Obama health-care plan, which you support, this man
would be given no care whatsoever." He pressed his case further on Fox
News.
In New Hampshire, outside a building where Obama spoke, cameras
trained on the pistol strapped to the leg of libertarian William
Kostric. He then explained on CNN why the "tree of liberty must be
refreshed from time to time by the blood of tyrants and patriots."
It was interesting to hear a BBC reporter on the radio trying to make
sense of it all. He quoted a spokesman for the conservative Americans
for Tax Reform: "Either this is a genuine grass-roots response, or
there's some secret evil conspirator living in a mountain somewhere
orchestrating all this that I've never met." The spokesman was
arguing, of course, that it was spontaneous, yet he also proudly owned
up to how his group has helped the orchestration, through sample
letters to the editor and "a little bit of an ability to put one-
pagers together."
The BBC also quoted liberal Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin's explanation:
"They want to get a little clip on YouTube of an effort to disrupt a
town meeting and to send the congressman running for his car. This is
an organized effort . . . you can trace it back to the health
insurance industry."
So the birthers, the anti-tax tea-partiers, the town hall hecklers --
these are "either" the genuine grass roots or evil conspirators
staging scenes for YouTube? The quiver on the lips of the man pushing
the wheelchair, the crazed risk of carrying a pistol around a
president -- too heartfelt to be an act. The lockstep strangeness of
the mad lies on the protesters' signs -- too uniform to be
spontaneous. They are both. If you don't understand that any moment of
genuine political change always produces both, you can't understand
America, where the crazy tree blooms in every moment of liberal
ascendancy, and where elites exploit the crazy for their own narrow
interests.
In the early 1950s, Republicans referred to the presidencies of
Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman as "20 years of treason" and
accused the men who led the fight against fascism of deliberately
surrendering the free world to communism. Mainline Protestants
published a new translation of the Bible in the 1950s that properly
rendered the Greek as connoting a more ambiguous theological status
for the Virgin Mary; right-wingers attributed that to, yes, the hand
of Soviet agents. And Vice President Richard Nixon claimed that the
new Republicans arriving in the White House "found in the files a
blueprint for socializing America."
When John F. Kennedy entered the White House, his proposals to anchor
America's nuclear defense in intercontinental ballistic missiles --
instead of long-range bombers -- and form closer ties with Eastern
Bloc outliers such as Yugoslavia were taken as evidence that the young
president was secretly disarming the United States. Thousands of
delegates from 90 cities packed a National Indignation Convention in
Dallas, a 1961 version of today's tea parties; a keynote speaker
turned to the master of ceremonies after his introduction and remarked
as the audience roared: "Tom Anderson here has turned moderate! All he
wants to do is impeach [Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl] Warren. I'm
for hanging him!"
Before the "black helicopters" of the 1990s, there were right-wingers
claiming access to secret documents from the 1920s proving that the
entire concept of a "civil rights movement" had been hatched in the
Soviet Union; when the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act was introduced,
one frequently read in the South that it would "enslave" whites. And
back before there were Bolsheviks to blame, paranoids didn't lack for
subversives -- anti-Catholic conspiracy theorists even had their own
powerful political party in the 1840s and '50s.
The instigation is always the familiar litany: expansion of the
commonweal to empower new communities, accommodation to
internationalism, the heightened influence of cosmopolitans and the
persecution complex of conservatives who can't stand losing an
argument. My personal favorite? The federal government expanded mental
health services in the Kennedy era, and one bill provided for a new
facility in Alaska. One of the most widely listened-to right-wing
radio programs in the country, hosted by a former FBI agent, had
millions of Americans believing it was being built to intern political
dissidents, just like in the Soviet Union.
So, crazier then, or crazier now? Actually, the similarities across
decades are uncanny. When Adlai Stevenson spoke at a 1963 United
Nations Day observance in Dallas, the Indignation forces thronged the
hall, sweating and furious, shrieking down the speaker for the
television cameras. Then, when Stevenson was walked to his limousine,
a grimacing and wild-eyed lady thwacked him with a picket sign.
Stevenson was baffled. "What's the matter, madam?" he asked. "What can
I do for you?" The woman responded with self-righteous fury: "Well, if
you don't know I can't help you."
The various elements -- the liberal earnestly confused when rational
dialogue won't hold sway; the anti-liberal rage at a world self-
evidently out of joint; and, most of all, their mutual incomprehension
-- sound as fresh as yesterday's news. (Internment camps for
conservatives? That's the latest theory of tea party favorite Michael
Savage.)
The orchestration of incivility happens, too, and it is evil. Liberal
power of all sorts induces an organic and crazy-making panic in a
considerable number of Americans, while people with no particular
susceptibility to existential terror -- powerful elites -- find reason
to stoke and exploit that fear. And even the most ideologically fair-
minded national media will always be agents of cosmopolitanism:
something provincials fear as an outside elite intent on forcing
different values down their throats.
That provides an opening for vultures such as Richard Nixon, who, the
Watergate investigation discovered, had his aides make sure that seed
blossomed for his own purposes. "To the Editor . . . Who in the hell
elected these people to stand up and read off their insults to the
President of the United States?" read one proposed "grass-roots"
letter manufactured by the White House. "When will you people realize
that he was elected President and he is entitled to the respect of
that office no matter what you people think of him?" went another.
Liberals are right to be vigilant about manufactured outrage, and
particularly about how the mainstream media can too easily become that
outrage's entry into the political debate. For the tactic represented
by those fake Nixon letters was a long-term success. Conservatives
have become adept at playing the media for suckers, getting inside the
heads of editors and reporters, haunting them with the thought that
maybe they are out-of-touch cosmopolitans and that their duty as
tribunes of the people's voices means they should treat Obama's
creation of "death panels" as just another justiciable political
claim. If 1963 were 2009, the woman who assaulted Adlai Stevenson
would be getting time on cable news to explain herself. That, not the
paranoia itself, makes our present moment uniquely disturbing.
It used to be different. You never heard the late Walter Cronkite
taking time on the evening news to "debunk" claims that a proposed
mental health clinic in Alaska is actually a dumping ground for right-
wing critics of the president's program, or giving the people who made
those claims time to explain themselves on the air. The media didn't
adjudicate the ever-present underbrush of American paranoia as a set
of "conservative claims" to weigh, horse-race-style, against liberal
claims. Back then, a more confident media unequivocally labeled the
civic outrage represented by such discourse as "extremist" -- out of
bounds.
The tree of crazy is an ever-present aspect of America's flora. Only
now, it's being watered by misguided he-said-she-said reporting and
taking over the forest. Latest word is that the enlightened and mild
provision in the draft legislation to help elderly people who want
living wills -- the one hysterics turned into the "death panel" canard
-- is losing favor, according to the Wall Street Journal, because of
"complaints over the provision."
Good thing our leaders weren't so cowardly in 1964, or we would never
have passed a civil rights bill -- because of complaints over the
provisions in it that would enslave whites.
[Rick Perlstein is the author of "Nixonland: The Rise of a President
and the Fracturing of America" and "Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater
and the Unmaking of the American Consensus."]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/14/AR2009081401495.html
Nickname unavailable
when ever i see some middle class nut case screaming to protect the
gouging of the insurance companies, i see someone moooing:) they are
like deer in the head ligtes, later on when all of the fighting is
over, and they won. then they will scream and bitch as they lose their
health care.
cuh...@webtv.net
www.worldnetdaily.com
Where's DUMBASS'S Birth Certificate? Vegas, baby! (new Billboard)
www.worldnetdaily.com
cuhulin
~ RHF
NnUa - 'crap'
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
.
.
~ RHF
> On Aug 16, 10:09 am, Barry <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 15, 12:13 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
> > > The Truth About Socialized Medicine
>
> > > Read Madeleine M. Kunin's other articles on HuffingtonPost.com
>
> > Huffington Post? bwaHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> > Madeleine M. Kunin? bwaHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> > Two big fat mouthpieces of the Socialist "Progessive" Liberal Fascist
> > Useful Idiots of Communist Party USA!
- the above rant is why you are a crank. liberals cannot be fascists,
- conservatives can be though:)
NnUa, - That's Obama-Bot© Thinking . . .
denial of the reality,
Denial Of The Reality.
DENIAL OF THE REALITY !
Clearly "Liberal-Fascism" is a Reality of the 21st Century
Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal" ?
Are Some One And The Same -aka- "Liberal-Fascist"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6c9c9a87136d9a10
"Liberal-Fascist" Can They Exist ?
& "Liberal-Fascist" Do They Exist ?
.
Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
"Liberal-Fascism" Does Exist in the 21st
Century is an Tired Old Argument.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/44230a0062947061
-ps- Yeah We Got Trouble Right Here In Liberal City !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Goldberg
http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
"Everything You Know About Fascism Is Wrong"
http://books.google.com/books?id=wHihWKJE3asC&dq=Liberal+Fascism&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=Yb83SreFFoPKlAeQ773rDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7#v=onepage&q=&f=false
.
"Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits' :
Liberal-Fascism is a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6a0dba38cddc6d10
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3022071beb242aa3
.
Neo-LiIberal-Fascism - Employing Fascist Techniques
and Means to Achieve Fascist Totalitarian Goals and
Political Dominance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9892c941fefbbef0
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/10905e6ff0ab2fad
.
Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal"
Are Some {Not All} One And The Same
-aka- "Liberal-Fascist" Can They Exist & Do They Exist ?
.
"Liberal-Fascist" are those American Liberals
-aka- One World Liberal Elitists Socialists {OWLES}
* Envirogenda : Green By Any Means
That use Fascist Methods and Tactics to Achieve
and Maintain Power over the Masses. Again the
Truth of Liberal-Fascism : Liberal-Fascism Exists :
don't deny it, Don't Deny It. DON'T DENY IT !
.
Fascist Techniques and Means to Achieve Fascist
Totalitarian Goals and Political Dominance over the
Masses can be employed by anyone including the
Left-Wing and so call Progressives and Liberals.
.
Call it Neo-LiIberal-Fascism -or- Neuvo-Liberal-Fascism
21st-Century-Liberal-Fascism in the end it is Fascism.
.
The ObamaBots© -aka- ObamaSpeakers© Denying
Time and Time Again That "Liberal-Fascism" Exists
and that in-fact they are {becoming} "Liberal-Fascist"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/20943adbe30480e1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22d3aa8461de1401
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
~ibid~
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"
? Can It Exist?
? Does It Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/55070611dd003a01
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dee38e44a0d1c320
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f95e688bb0612c63
~ibid~
.
Obama-Regime© Using Left-Wing Radial High Tech
Media Shout-Down BARACKING©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8e579a6b903e62b1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3adda4284110e71f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/59dcfdaa2b7cbc2d
.
Don't Let The Truth Be Told : Manufacturing the Democrat
Half-Truth and Liberal Media Lie by Distorting the Facts
and Reality.
~ibid~
.
Therefore It Follows . . . -from- Wikipedia
The National Socialist German Workers' Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_German_Workers%E2%80%...
(German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English
as the NAZI Party
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP)
.
Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism"
and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change.
-aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting
to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control
with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack
'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In !
-aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist}
and Totalitarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
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The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
? Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
? Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
~ibid~
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Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
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Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
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ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
"The Great Leader's" Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9876df6e26d1b4c8
~ibid~
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'nnua' - history could be repeating itself . . .
all over again - idtars ~ RHF {Hey That's Me ~ibid~}
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cuh...@webtv.net
the Wal Mart store I need to buy some new Dickies work pants.The dark
blue ones, of course, to hide my pee pee when I leak. www.dickies.com
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
~ RHF
> On Aug 16, 3:59 pm, Ted L <tedl...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 12:13 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 15, 10:58 am, 0baMa0 Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > From the 1961 Operation Coffee Cup Campaign against Socialized
> > > > Medicine as proposed by the Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald
> > > > Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine.
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
>
> > > > For the sake of your Life, Liberty and Happiness - Listen and listen
> > > > carefully.
>
> > > >http://www.ideachannel.tvhttp://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asphtt...
>
> > > a crank posts the stuff from another crank.
>
> > > todays crank conservatives, are no different than yesterdays crank
> > > conservatives, here is what ray-gun said about medicare:Ronald Reagan
> > > warned that if Medicare and Medicaid were passed In your sunset years,
> > > you will be able to tell your children and grandchildren what life was
> > > like when men were free
>
> > When your country has to work from January into August to pay for the
> > costs of pig government, you are not in a free country.
>
- and the bushs tax cuts for wealthy parasites,
- you would not have to work so hard paying their
- taxes. then it would give you time to actually think.
NnUa - ' wealthy parasites'
cuh...@webtv.net
Brenda Ann
"Nickname unavailable" <Vid...@tcq.net> wrote in message
news:55246a85-a921-458f...@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
Isn't tax independence day sometime in April??
~ RHF
> "Nickname unavailable" <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
- Isn't tax independence day sometime in April??
Welcome to the Age of Obama-R-Us©
Really Really Big Government Health Care
where there is NO Tax Independence Day . . .
and Obama-Care© means Health Care is
one big constant delay like in Canada
.
Obama-Regime Media Censorship [ABC]
Pulls John Stossel’s Canadian Healthcare Piece
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/stossel_special_spiked/2009/07/01/230938.html
Why is Prez Obama and the Obama-Media©
trying to Hide-the-Truth about Obama-Care©
from the American People ?
.
But the Free Internet still has the Real Truth
John Stossel & ABC's 20/20 Takes On Health
Care Reform - President Obama's Proposed Health Care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8cDxLNRkE
Waiting for Treatment = Waiting to Die = Obama-Care©
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
.
Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills
? IS IT A CRIME ?
Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ab23d8de5c8c0277
Obama-Care© Medical Malpractice and Nonfeasance
By US Federal {Big} Government Design
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F63R1_eOoQ
.
10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.news-media/msg/6645ce8aa5d4d2b6
.
O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Absolute Mistake America !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/244b71e8dcd31438
The ObamaNation© Creating a Culture of Joblessness,
Dependency and Endless Taxes, Fees and Levies . . .
With the Right to End-of-Life Counseling for All
.
.
Nickname unavailable
> "Nickname unavailable" <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
yes, but drooling idiots that would fight to be cheated do not bother
with facts, after all, they are completely impervious to facts, logic,
and reason. the wealthy are laughing all of the way, to their offshore
banks.
~ RHF
Threatens the US Congress We Will Cause an
Economic Collapse if the GAO Audits the FED !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidBugvVqpw
Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government
Operations so that the US Citizens would know the
Truth -so- Tell Bernanake to Open-Up the FED's
Books to the GAO an put a Stop to what the FED
is Hiding from the American People.
Prez Obama come out and Publicly Support HR 1207
& S 604 and bring the FED into the 21st Century.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjULF_Xg6Ps
Prez Obama endorse the Federal Reserve
Transparency Act - HR1207 -by- US Rep. Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PC9fkLMZmo
Prez Obama you Pledged a Transparent Administration
and It's Time to Deliver on that Promise
.
.
> Pulls John Stossel’s Canadian Healthcare Piecehttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/stossel_special_spiked/2009/07/01/...
> Why is Prez Obama and the Obama-Media©
> trying to Hide-the-Truth about Obama-Care©
> from the American People ?
> .
> But the Free Internet still has the Real Truth
> John Stossel & ABC's 20/20 Takes On Health
> Care Reform - President Obama's Proposed Health Carehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8cDxLNRkE
> Waiting for Treatment = Waiting to Die = Obama-Care©http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
> .
> Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills
> ? IS IT A CRIME ?
> Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
> Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ab23d8de5c8c0277
> Obama-Care© Medical Malpractice and Nonfeasance
> By US Federal {Big} Government Designhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F63R1_eOoQ
> .
> 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicianshttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.news-media/msg/6645ce8aa5d4d2b6
> .
> O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Absolute Mistake America !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/244b71e8dcd31438
~ RHF
> Prez Obama's FED Chairman Ben Bernanke
> Threatens the US Congress We Will Cause an
>
> Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government
> Operations so that the US Citizens would know the
> Truth -so- Tell Bernanake to Open-Up the FED's
> Books to the GAO an put a Stop to what the FED
> is Hiding from the American People.
>
> Prez Obama come out and Publicly Support HR 1207
>
> Prez Obama endorse the Federal Reserve
Nancy-Ann DeParle Prez Obama's Health-Care
CZAR another Obama 'appointee' that bypasses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy-Ann_DeParle
the US Senate Confirmation process and has NO
Accountability to the American Electorate.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=U.S._Senate_Confirmation_Process
The US Senate needs to stand-up and be counted
and say "NO" to all these numerous Obama-Czars©;
and bring back the Checks-and-Balances to the White
House and the Executive Branch before the Obama-
Regime© and Prez Obama 'usurp' all of the US
Congress' Powers.
http://www.answers.com/usurp
The Ever Growing List of CZARs in the Obama-Regime©
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_czars_of_the_Obama_administration
Prez Obama Transparency -wrt- Open Honest
Government -or- Czars an Imperial Secret Covert
Regime - you can't have both. ~ RHF
.
dave
> Prez Obama's FED Chairman Ben Bernanke
> Threatens the US Congress We Will Cause an
> Economic Collapse if the GAO Audits the FED !
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
cuh...@webtv.net
Good Song.
Tahdey, ahh needs to git tu Ondura www.ondura.com Ridge Caps on teh
top of my old trailer and git em all screwed down real Good and them
four other Ondura roof panels I put on there yesterday, I needs to run
the rest of the screws and flat washers in them too.tHen termorry, I am
going to plug in my phone and call Follen wood treatment company over
thar near teh area of Highway 80 and Gallitin Street and see if they
have some pressure treated plywood I needs.
The British is comming!, the British is coming! Git yourself a Gun! We
are going to have us a Revolution! ~ Andy Griffith.The Andy Griffith
Show.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
www.rense.com
Also at rense.com
DUMBASS Now A Noose On Every US democrap.Article links to Canada Free
Press.
Still Raining, and also Raining real hard too.Listen to that Thunder out
there.My electric power almost went out, but not long enough that I have
to reset my tv sets.
cuhulin
~ RHF
> On Aug 17, 10:04 pm, "~ RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Threatens the US Congress We Will Cause an
> > Economic Collapse if the GAO Audits the FED !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidBugvVqpw
>
> > Operations so that the US Citizens would know the
> > Truth -so- Tell Bernanake to Open-Up the FED's
> > Books to the GAO an put a Stop to what the FED
> > is Hiding from the American People.
>
> > > one big constant delay like in Canada
> > > .
> > >Obama-Regime Media Censorship [ABC]
> > > Pulls John Stossel’s Canadian Healthcare Piecehttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/stossel_special_spiked/2009/07/01/...
> > > Why is PrezObamaand theObama-Media©
> > > trying to Hide-the-Truth aboutObama-Care©
> > > from the American People ?
> > > .
> > > But the Free Internet still has the Real Truth
> > > John Stossel & ABC's 20/20 Takes On Health
> > > Waiting for Treatment = Waiting to Die =Obama-Care©http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
> > > .
> > > Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills
> > > ? IS IT A CRIME ?
> > > Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
> > >Obama-Care© Medical Malpractice and Nonfeasance
> > > By US Federal {Big} Government Designhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F63R1_eOoQ
> > > .
> > > .
> > >O.B.A.M.A.= One Big Absolute Mistake America !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/244b71e8dcd31438
> > > The ObamaNation© Creating a Culture of Joblessness,
> > > Dependency and Endless Taxes, Fees and Levies . . .
> > > With the Right to End-of-Life Counseling for All
> > > .
> > > .
>
- anotherObama'appointee' that bypasses
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy-Ann_DeParle
- the US Senate Confirmation process and has NO
- Accountability to the American Electorate.
- http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=U.S._Senate_Confirmation_P...
-
- The US Senate needs to stand-up and be counted
- and say "NO" to all these numerousObama-Czars©;
- and bring back the Checks-and-Balances to the White
- House and the Executive Branch before theObama-
- Regime© and PrezObama 'usurp' all of the US
- Congress' Powers.
- http://www.answers.com/usurp
-
- The Ever Growing List of CZARs in theObama-Regime©
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_czars_of_the_Obama_administration
-
- PrezObamaTransparency -wrt- Open Honest
- Government -or- Czars an Imperial Secret Covert
- Regime - you can't have both. ~ RHF
- .
List of Prez Obama's Czars {Political Commissars}
-dated- 21 August 2009
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29391/
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Prez Obama's Army of Czars {Political Commissars}
Raises Concerns About Abuse of Executive Power
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/16/obamas-army-czars-raises-concerns-executive-power/
.
Even some Democrats are Questioning Prez Obama's
Extra-Governmental Czar System {Political Commissars}
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/05/nation/na-obama-czars5
Lead to overstepping the bounds of Presidential
Authority and Abuse of Executive Power.
.
Prez Obama's Appointing "Czars" is an End-Run
around Government Accountabillity and the Role
of the US Senate to Confirm Legal Executive Branch
Appointments and maintain a Balance of Power.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=147884
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just say 'no' to the obama-regimes©
czars {political commissars} ~ RHF
.
dave
> ~ RHF wrote:
>> just say 'no'
>
> Like Nancy Davis Reagan said to the bill of rights in 1982?
> or W said to the precedent against preemptive war in 2003?
> or the American electorate said to the Republicans in 2008?
>
"We're more polite than Nancy Reagan. We tell people to just say "no
thank-you".
-Timothy Leary
~ RHF
> Bob Dobbs wrote:
> > ~ RHF wrote:
> >> just say 'no'
>
> > Like Nancy Davis Reagan said to the bill of rights in 1982?
> > or W said to the precedent against preemptive war in 2003?
and in 2010 the American Voters will say no, No. NO !
to Prez Obama & Obama-Nomics© & Obama-Care©
plus most likely the Voters will put an end to One Party
Control of one or both Houses of the US Congress :
Which will result in bring back 'Balance' to the US
Government and Bipartisan {Two Party Power Sharing}
of the US Congress -aka- The Political Middle Road
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fbd118cc06611488
Prez Obama Could NOT Win the Presidency Today :
Now That The Voters Know BHO !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a789e4d9989b0cc8
.
> "We're more polite than Nancy Reagan. We tell people to just say "no
> thank-you".
> -Timothy Leary
just say 'no',
Just Say 'No'.
JUST SAY "NO" !
Just Say 'NO' to the Obama-Regimes© CZARS {Political Commissars}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5c82ab3db4fc8d29
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