Obama is a University of Chicago Milton Friedman capitalist.
You mean conservative-liberals? hahahaha..........
Idiot. <PLONK>
This coming from someone who has so little command of the English
language that he doesn't know the terms liberal and Fascist are
mutually exclusive. While the right wing is great for producing sound
bites, at least try to make them reasonably accurate.
"Ford Buick Chevy" <tush_li...@na.net> wrote in message
news:v4Vyl.22132$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
Well conservative's were against Bush. It is the phony conservatives that
supported him.
- Obama is a University of Chicago Milton Friedman capitalist.
dave, Dave. DAVE !
First Citizen Obama Ain't No Milton !
First Citizen Obama Ain't No Friedman !
First Citizen Obama Sure Ain't No Capitalist !
First Citizen Obama Ain't No . . . and nothing more ~ RHF
.
FWIW as First Citizen Obama -is- The US President.
.
- This coming from someone who has so
- little command of the English language
- that he doesn't know the terms liberal
- and Fascist are mutually exclusive.
SFIT - Only 'if' You Believe {Pretend} that they are . . .
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
- Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
idtars ~ RHF
.
.
- - Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
- - Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
- - Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
- - "Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
- -
- - The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- - Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
- - Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
- - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
- Roy takes lesson from crazy right wing authors
- who cite their own babbling as proof of something.
Dave - 'proof of something' -is- Proof of Something !
and that is something to 'think' about ~ RHF
-ps- pardon my babbling-on . . .
thinking - thunking - thanking u2
.
The New Face of Democrat Party of the USA "Liberal-Fascism" :
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2a30a50cbd4a5c72
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
After All We Are Living in the Age-of-Obama-R-Us© !
.
-was- ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried
About The Great Leader's Socialist Economic Competence
-now- The ObamaSpeakers© Denying That Liberal-Fascism Exists
.
.
Whatever you say, as in - HEIL HITLER! [get used to it Liberal
Fascist] LMAO!!!
Thus, in American English, fascist is the support of "right wing
authoritarian views". So, are you redifining "fascist" or "liberal"?
Short of making a new version of American English, the terms are
therefore mutually exclusive, regardless of whatever you dearly hope
the new right wing mantra's newest soundbite to be. Period. You're
just proving accuracy is not a right wing virtue.
laugh away. According to the definition of fascist in American
English, you're just trying to invent a new definition for the word
that is completely opposite of it's actual meaning.
Don't worry, most people laugh at ignorance too. LMAO
I do wish you people would stop talking crap. The origin of this
garbage appears to be the following article. The citation is:-
Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 35, No. 4, 541-558 (2000)
© 2000 SAGE Publications
H.G. Wells's 'Liberal Fascism'
Philip Coupland
University of Warwick, UK
And here is the abstract:-
"During the 1930s H.G. Wells's theory of revolutionary praxis centred
around a concept of 'liberal fascism' whereby the Wellsian 'liberal'
utopia would be achieved by an authoritarian élite. Taking
inspiration
from the militarized political movements of the 1930s, this marked a
development in the Wellsian theory of revolution from the 'open
conspiracy' of the 1920s. Although both communist and fascist
movements evinced some of the desired qualities of a Wellsian
vanguard, it was fascism rather than communism which came closest to
Wells's ideal. However, in practice, despite the failure of
approaches
to parties of the left and centre as possible agents of revolution,
Wells rejected the British Union of Fascists. The disparity between
Wells's theory and his actions when faced by the reality of fascism
echoes the unresolved tension between ends and means at the heart of
the concept of 'liberal fascism'. "
You will note the following points:-
'Liberal fascism' (it is not clear if the phrase is coined by Wells
himself, or Coupland) refers to a tactic of revolution - the
imposition of a liberal revolution by means of an authoritarian coup
by an elite (possibly commanding a militarised organisation). And
there the resemblance ends....it has nothing whatever to do with the
actual philosophy behind the revolution, which is still essentially
liberal (in the sense of emancipatory) in nature.
Note also that Wells would have nothing to do with actual fascists.
Indeed, he was repelled by them.
From this, a seconf rate writer called Jonah Goldberg produced a
book,
a book that was slated by most reputable reviewers.
And right wing political illiterates have regurgitated it ever since.
I hope that this clears this matter up (though I doubt it).
Dr. Barry Worthington
> .
> .
>
>
>
> > While the right wing is great for producing sound
> > bites, at least try to make them reasonably accurate.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
-from- Wikipedia
The National Socialist German Workers' Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_German_Workers%E2%80%...
(German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English
as the NAZI Party
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP)
Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism"
and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change.
-aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting
to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control
with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack
'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In !
-aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist}
and Totalitarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
- Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
.
ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
"The Great Leader's" Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9876df6e26d1b4c8
.
history could be repeating itself
all over again - idtars ~ RHF
.
.
> - - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
>
> - Roy takes lesson from crazy right wing authors
> - who cite their own babbling as proof of something.
>
> Dave - 'proof of something' -is- Proof of Something !
Did you just cite yourself citing yourself as a proof of proof of
something?
mike
Mike [M II] - I will say it slowly
.
'proof of something'
.
-is-
.
Proof of Something !
.
The ObamaSpeakers© Denying That "Liberal-Fascism" Exists
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/20943adbe30480e1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22d3aa8461de1401
~ibid~
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist" - Can It Exist? - Does It
Exist
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/55070611dd003a01
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dee38e44a0d1c320
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f95e688bb0612c63
~ibid~
.
Obama-Regime© Using Left-Wing Radial High Tech
Media Shout-Down BARACKING©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8e579a6b903e62b1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3adda4284110e71f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/59dcfdaa2b7cbc2d
.
Don't Let The Truth Be Told : Manufacturing the Democrat
Half-Truth and Liberal Media Lie by Distorting the Facts
and Reality.
~ibid~
.
Therefore It Follows . . . -from- Wikipedia
The National Socialist German Workers' Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_German_Workers%E2%80%...
(German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English
as the NAZI Party
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP)
.
Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism"
and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change.
-aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting
to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control
with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack
'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In !
-aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist}
and Totalitarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
- Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
~ibid~
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
.
ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
"The Great Leader's" Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9876df6e26d1b4c8
~ibid~
.
history could be repeating itself
all over again - idtars ~ RHF {Hey That Me ~ibid~}
.
.
I am repeating this message in answer to 'RHF', because there is some
glitch in his posting that does not allow me to reply to it.
The NSDAP was founded, not by Hitler, but by Anton Drexler. Hitler
effectively took it over. Drexler wanted a nationalistic programme
that would appeal to German workers, hence the nomenclature. As to the
word 'socialist', there is a European tradition of people using that
word to describe political movements and organisations that are right
wing but include a social (usually corporate) agenda. Following the
Papal Encyclicals 'Rerum Novarum' and Quadregessima Anno', the Roman
Catholic Church sponsored Trade Unions and Political parties that
incorporated principles of social justice from a corporate point of
view that owed more to Aquinas than Marx. Thus, in Bavaria, the
mainstream conservative (in the European sense) party is still called
the 'Christian Socialist Party'.
All this is nothing to do with mainstream socialism. Instead, it might
be described as a reaction against it. Some American right wingers who
post on sites like these inevitably make this mistake for two reasons.
Forstly, they are not Europeans. Secondly, they are either too lazy or
too stupid to research the background.
The rest of the post is merely a repeat of the garbage that I have
exploded.
Now please stop posting ignorant crap!
Dr. Barry Worthington
There will soon be some Tax Day Tea Party's (Tea Parties) around here
too. http://taxdayteaparty.com/teaparty/mississippi
Check out your State Tax Day Tea Parties.All fifty States.
cuhulin
Dr.BW,
1 - Words and their Means can and do change
with the passage of Time and the Migration
of Words across Cultures and Languages.
2 - Political Ideas and Movements Do Evolve wtih Time.
3 - Words can simply take-on new meaning.
4 - New Words and New Meaning can be Created
out of Old Words -hence- "Liberal-Fascist".
now please stop living in the 1930s {living-in-ignorance}
and denying the 'possible' realities of the 2000s ~ RHF
.
The ObamaSpeakers© Denying That "Liberal-Fascism" Exists
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2df6e608844a1aa9
.
ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
The Great Leader's Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22d3aa8461de1401
.
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
.
But political idiocy and illiteracy remains. This bizarre notion that
National Socialism and socialism are one and the same is comparatively
recent and largely confined to idiots who reside in America. No such
identification existed in the immediate post-war period, or throughout
the decades that followed.
>
> 2 - Political Ideas and Movements Do Evolve wtih Time.
Indeed they do, but you are talking about two diametrically opposed
points of view. Fascism has a racial solvent. Socialism (however you
define it) does not.
>
> 3 - Words can simply take-on new meaning.
>
> 4 - New Words and New Meaning can be Created
> out of Old Words -hence- "Liberal-Fascist".
No-one, apart from idiots and political illiterates (and American ones
at that) uses the term 'liberal-fascism'.
>
> now please stop living in the 1930s {living-in-ignorance}
> and denying the 'possible' realities of the 2000s ~ RHF
Please stop writing this ignorant crap!
And try and make some points and refer to references the way that
other people do.
> .
> The ObamaSpeakers© Denying That "Liberal-Fascism" Existshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2df6e608844a1aa9
> .
> ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
> The Great Leader's Socialist Economic Competencehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/22d3aa8461de1401
> .
> .
> Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
> does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
> and can exist in the world today.
The fact that it exists as your personal fantasy is meaningless. The
concept does not exist in reality.
> .
> Liberal-Fascist :
> Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
> Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
> of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
> has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
> are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
> in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
> * Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
> in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
> their Meanings . . .
Look, I've already debunked this in a previous posting (which you have
not replied to). I indicated the origin of the term, and it doesn't
mean what you think it does.
Are you some kind of troll?
Dr. Barry Worthington
> .
> .- Hide quoted text -
DrBW,
NO FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO ATTEMPT TO
"DENY" THE 'POSSIBILITY' THAT TODAY IN
THE 2000'S [LIBERAL-FASCISM] COULD EXIST
--- CLEARLY MEANS YOU ARE A STUCK IN
THE 1930'S -or- A TROLL ~ RHF
.
You are a fool, and you are wasting my time.
Goodbye,
Dr. Barry Worthington
DrBW - You sound and act like a Liberal {Left-Wing}
College Professor who is used to Mouthing Words
at his sheepish Students and having them Parrot the
Words Back like good little stooges. Your Arguments
are Stuck-in-the-1930s and Your Logic is Stuck-On
I Said It So It Is So [.]
.
DENYING - The 'Potential' Existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the Fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can Exist in the World Today.
.
i said it so it is so too {back-at-you} ~ RHF
.
.
I've debunked many things in my career. Now I debunk yet another
Liberel Fascist - YOU! Ker-P-L-O-I-N-K!
Yes, it does, Professor Worthington, PhD. [Piled higher and Deeper] -
YOU are yourself a full of manure Liberal Fascist.
Now we know.
Whatever you say, Liberal Fascist - HEIL HITLER ! [get used to it]
Ja, whatever you say Liberal fascist - HEIL HITLER! [get used to it]
Including yours - ROTFLMAO - HEIL HITLER [get used to it Liberal
Fascist]
Give my regards to Hitler and Mussolini!
I think that you should seek help....
Dr. Barry Worthington
I can.
cuhulin