Question about PV aka Noles?
Earl Evleth
PV once called me his mortal enemy
Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
am I also Noles mortal enemy?
I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
Earl
Euro
"Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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Maybe James does as well...
Euro
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
We know his name, now. Big deal. Can't we just call him "Jim" or
"James" and get on with thing?
Mr Q. Z. D.
Jim Noles
denied. What always is amazing to me, is how little morality
is displayed among some who claim that morality is the reason
they piously oppose the DP for every murderer.
JN
> Mr Q. Z. D.
Earl Evleth
abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 7/11/04 9:02:
Certainly that is not responsive to the question PV. Or several
questions.
1) Under the name of JN (Just Nobody??) am I still your mortal
enemy?
2) Personally, in answer to "Can't we just call him "Jim" or
>> "James" and get on with thing?" I would answer that for me
PV is what you answered to for years but I guess your multiple
personality syndrome has now been altered.
Personally, I have not recorded you address, phone number
or town of residence. The State I already know but forgot
the country.
Earl
Jim Noles
You probably have lost none... the Nazis slept well after
killing Jews... and I imagine you are no different.
JN
>
> Euro (The murderer of PV the Jew)
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 54 of my posting some
very destructive comments from euro, providing the exact words,
a link to those words, and my opinion of those words. Not one
of which he has refuted. --
[1] Your words --
"At least, Goebbels was polite in his propaganda" See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d8232deaf4cfd86aa600b816fd947ca8%40news.meganetnews.com
[2] In an absolutely conflicted assortment of Machiavellian, ignominious,
disingenuous, feckless, sophistic, and offensive, double-speak nonsense.
ALL IN ONE POST. Your words --
"I made a claim of principle, that families have nothing to do with justice."
"Justice concerns also the families of victims and murderers."
"justice should, on the contrary, be compassion for the murderer's family"
"hence the feelings of the victims' families should not be instrumentalized to
justify a harder penalty;"
"the tears from one side (the victims' family) cannot be compensated
by the tears from another side (the murderers' family)."
"I never alluded to pity for murderers, but to pity for the murderers'
families." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=98ecf84d186fb6f02671ac97f3157aec%40news.meganetnews.com
[3] Your words --
"because murderers are HUMANE, whether you like it or not."
"But since murderers are humane..."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=5bfda818764410613bc12ca4df5b16ba%40meganetnews.com
[4] Your words --
"Do you find that John Wayne Gacy is an animal who does not enjoy the
same human rights as you do?" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ccea6e7e4217cf160862d1c39b026740news.meganetnews.com
You stated "And that is true." In reply to the question of John Wayne Gacy
having the same 'human rights' as any innocent person. See -
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=40383cc79857308eb110320ca87bc907%40news.meganetnews.com
[5] When choosing between abolishing the DP and 'saving' all murderers from the
DP, or abolishing slavery and freeing all slaves in a society that practices both --
Your words --
"That would lead me to the conclusion that I should abolish death penalty."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=c80a9ef0a3cea5a2e77e8fc9f80eb05d%40news.meganetnews.com
[6] In your arrogant claims that you, in your God-like belief in your own
infallibility, can DEFINE for everyone what are "great moral qualities."
While every rational person recognizes that 'morality' is not an absolute.
Yet YOU would DEFINE as a RC Cardinal who wants to elevate an executed
murderer to a role which would demand that millions refer to that murderer
as BLESSED -- Your words --
"You will also note that Lustiger is, in France, one of the prominent
activists for the beatification of Jacques Flesch, sentenced to death and
executed in France in 1957 for the murder of a police officer following a
bungled robbery.
http://www.catholicdigest.org/stories/200108106a.html
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to stress the great moral qualities of
Lustiger" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dd7b24844c1b79d34bac9efbb48e2fcd%40news.meganetnews.com
Of course, then entering DENIAL... as usual, you denied even writing
those words... when you posted "I didn't claim that "it is moral to beatify a
murderer". Along with you again DEFINING 'moral values' for the rest of
all humans, in your delusion that God whispers in your ear... with your
words -- "Lustiger's moral values are famous"
Apparently you find Lustiger 'moral' for supporting what you believe is
an 'immoral' effort. But given that you've never been able to express any
comment without offering a contradiction immediately following that
comment... your belief that God speaks to you in defining 'moral' is
understandable. You simply have some psychotic problems.. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=f5d5c01cdcd2d3e4a4c30acf8ac75602%40news.meganetnews.com
[7] Your words in speaking of 'Collective guilt.' --
"This word is one of the concepts on which West Germany was built."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a7f4c90ad29d61171fb19a75c4359d6%40news.meganetnews.com
Using the expression that "It targets the whole German population."
How bigoted can you be, euro?
[8] In speaking of the death penalty -- "I actually don't believe in improvements,
and, so far, in spite of all the "improvement" proposals, I have not seen
anything that exclude the possbility for innocents to be executed." See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=58403db4127cd882b02e97a39cc2820f%40news.meganetnews.com
Apparently, you would sacrifice any who might not be executed with any
improvements... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support of
YOUR agenda. How very similar to your willingness to sacrifice all
innocent slaves... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support of
YOUR agenda.
[9] Implying that pity should not be felt for those deprived of their human
rights in the holocaust... because in your words --
"Human rights have nothing to do with pity." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=531e0a6fc371e8f5745ae1c2ba15fd4d%40news.meganetnews.com
[10] And of course.. another of the 'great ones' from you -- "I don't think one
makes much progress by separating non murderers (the good ones) and
murderers (the evil ones)." Apparently... you conclude that we should not
even bother having a justice system which separates the murderer from the
non-murderer. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2706c22e2c8c73ebbd818d20b986abb%40news.meganetnews.com
[11] Your words in support of the murder of 200 Spanish citizens --
"The big winner of the elections, indeed, is the Spanish people."
Apparently again believing that being victimized can make the
victim "big winners" in the lottery of life. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ccdd62ad2932a5f597990a783220d56d%40news.meganetnews.com
[12] And of course, your claim that mentioning someone is Jewish
is EXPOSING THEM as presumably having some _evil_ that
should not be EXPOSED. Along with your claim that mentioning
that someone is Jewish is DISGUSTING to you... in your words
"Well... because of what you post. Your original thread about Lustiger
sounded very much like "Look at Lustiger... He's a Jew!" How
disgusting..." See -
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=371eb2f897493d9d08eebeda1bf2c0d8%40news.meganetnews.com
Jim Noles
half asleep mentally. :-) It's a problem with those who are elderly,
as you are.
JN
> Earl
>
Earl Evleth
abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 8/11/04 8:45:
PV, you dodge, my question goes unanswered.
"Am I also Noles mortal enemy?"
Or have you switched to targeting others?
Earl
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
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> "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> > news:BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
> >>
> >>
> >> PV once called me his mortal enemy
> >>
> >> Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
> >> am I also Noles mortal enemy?
> >>
> >> I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
> >>
> >> Earl
> >
> > Maybe James does as well...
>
> You probably have lost none... the Nazis slept well after
> killing Jews... and I imagine you are no different.
>
> JN
I do not kill Jews, James, but I indeed sleep very well. I have no
continuous lies to be blamed with, that's why. You, on the contrary, must
now be meditating the famous Romanian saying according to which "a liar must
either have good memory, or good legs".
And while you have such a poor memory that you forgot you denied on several
occasions that you were a Jew and now claim to be one, or that you forgot
you ever posted on usenet on your real name until it came back to you like a
boomerang, you must just be regretting not to have better legs.
Euro
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Even James Noles' wife admits he's a stupid and an idiot:
From: A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Subject: Re: EXECUTED CRIMINALS NEVER RE-OFFEND!!Not Even Desi
Message-ID: <7qgic09n0hhuog6gl...@4ax.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 05:38:48 GMT
"Now I admit that on
occasion my wife has, in the many years we've been married, happened to
have called me "stupid," and an "idiot." But never in public. "
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
Because aged 72, you consider yourself not elderly, James? Even when you
post at 2 or 3 a.m., Florida (Leesburg) time?
What a twat you are. Maybe you could at least have the courage to answer the
question Earl asked you, but that might require more than a weakling can
offer.
Euro
j.rennie1
Any chance of this nonsense comimg to an end, Euro?
And don't say it's all the other fella's fault.
Jim Noles
> in article DEkjd.17128$As5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com, Jim Noles at
> abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 7/11/04 9:02:
>
>> "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:satan-DC391F....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> In article <BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr>,
>>> Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> PV once called me his mortal enemy
>>>>
>>>> Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
>>>> am I also Noles mortal enemy?
>>>>
>>>> I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
>>>
>>> We know his name, now. Big deal. Can't we just call him "Jim" or
>>> "James" and get on with thing?
>>>
>> You must be joking? The jackals smell blood, and will not be
>> denied. What always is amazing to me, is how little morality
>> is displayed among some who claim that morality is the reason
>> they piously oppose the DP for every murderer.
>>
>
> Certainly that is not responsive to the question PV. Or several
> questions.
Of course it's directly responsive to the question. The answer
contained in my comment is "NO... some... some very specific
posters... can't _get on with it_.
> 1) Under the name of JN (Just Nobody??) am I still your mortal
> enemy?
>
You're humanity's _mortal enemy_, Earl. However, I long ago
determined you are simply a harmless old coot. And one can
hardly find someone who is a harmless old coot, a real
_mortal enemy_. You're more of AADP's standing joke. A
laughable caricature more than anything else to me. Taking
yourself much too seriously, and believing you are some sort of
_geopolitical expert_, pontificating as that _political pundit_.
As I said... you are a symbolic representation of the apathy wing
of our species. The only reason I even bother with you, is that
some might actually be naive enough to take you as more than
what you really are. If I ever felt you were my "mortal enemy" it
would have been during a period in which I actually took you
seriously. That idea is long dead and buried. Buried under the
morass of so many of your pitiful excuses for argument, and
childish attempts at anything else... and has been dead and
buried for some years now.
> 2) Personally, in answer to "Can't we just call him "Jim" or
>>> "James" and get on with thing?" I would answer that for me
> PV is what you answered to for years but I guess your multiple
> personality syndrome has now been altered.
>
> Personally, I have not recorded you address, phone number
> or town of residence. The State I already know but forgot
> the country.
LOL.... See what I mean? A laughable caricature in AADP.
JN
> Earl
>
Earl Evleth
abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 9/11/04 7:35:
>> 1) Under the name of JN (Just Nobody??) am I still your mortal
>> enemy?
> And one can
> hardly find someone who is a harmless old coot, a real
> _mortal enemy_.
Agreed, you have your hands full of other people who
you feel are not harmless to you precious identity.
So, I guess that means I have been down graded to not
being your mortal enemy.
Could you list those that are, then?
Earl
Jim Noles
"Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:BDB4F811.25394%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
sleepwalking and missed it. It was much more of an explanation
than you deserve, and certainly more than you are mentally
equipped to handle. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=PyZjd.11059%248G4.4472%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
JN
> Earl
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:muFjd.9334$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fbb98e9c1e3ea80f...@news.meganetnews.com...
>> >
>> > "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>> > news:BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> PV once called me his mortal enemy
>> >>
>> >> Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
>> >> am I also Noles mortal enemy?
>> >>
>> >> I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
>> >>
>> >> Earl
>> >
>> > Maybe James does as well...
>>
>> You probably have lost none... the Nazis slept well after
>> killing Jews... and I imagine you are no different.
>>
>> JN
>
> I do not kill Jews, James,
Not from a lack of trying, euro.
> but I indeed sleep very well.
Presumable, so did the Nazis.
> I have no continuous lies to be blamed with, that's why.
A liar is always lavish of taking an oath that he does not lie.
Look to Desmond... and look to yourself. You either are
aware you are a liar... or you are a madman. Take your choice.
But, see below, for a very short list of a very great number in
total of your lies, and ignorance and evil.
> You, on the contrary, must
> now be meditating the famous Romanian saying according to which "a liar must
> either have good memory, or good legs".
>
Actually, you demonstrate your ignorance, since the original
saying was "A liar should have a good memory." And that
was first recorded as being said by Quintilian, born in Spain
in 35 AD, educated in Rome, and later teaching in Rome.
Everything else is a corruption or a build on that original
quotation.
> And while you have such a poor memory that you forgot you denied on several
> occasions that you were a Jew and now claim to be one, or that you forgot
> you ever posted on usenet on your real name until it came back to you like a
> boomerang, you must just be regretting not to have better legs.
>
I never forgot that I had denied BEING JEWISH. Nor do I assert
I AM JEWISH. Although that might have come across as such
to your feeble mind, so intent are you on hating the Jews. I
explained exactly how I can claim Jewish ancestry, which provides
me the right to claim that ancestry as a Jew, or deny it, as a
second-generation American, having various other ancestral roots.
I can claim a number of extractions, and I can deny they MAKE
me such an extraction.
I hoped to avoid the impression that my defense of the Jews, in
respect to the various attacks on the Jews, made mainly by you
and Desmond, might appear to have biased my view. And in
those instances used the fact that I am American and have
too distant a connection in either culture or religion to being
Jewish. And of course, if there is any lie in my comments, it
was in leaving the impression that this slight Jewish ancestry
did not bias me favorably toward the Jews, to leave the impression
that my defense of the Jews was more objective. So I admit to
leaving a false impression that I was not personally biased
favorably toward the Jews in my arguments. I was... and I am...
favorably biased toward the Jews. And it disgusts me to find
you... unfavorably biased toward the Jews to such an extent
that it became apparent to me that you hate the Jews.
JN
> Euro (Bring Goebbels back to life)
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 89 of my posting some
[12] Your claim that mentioning someone is Jewish is EXPOSING
THEM as presumably having some _evil_ that should not be EXPOSED.
Along with your claim that mentioning that someone is Jewish is
DISGUSTING to you... in your words - "Well... because of what you
post. Your original thread about Lustiger sounded very much like
"Look at Lustiger... He's a Jew!" How disgusting..." See -
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=371eb2f897493d9d08eebeda1bf2c0d8%40news.meganetnews.com
[13] And of course, your words -- "I come to consider more and
more that the election of Bush in November would be preferable.
Let him clean his own mess himself, at least he (and neo-cons)
would have only himself (themselves) to blame for at the end
of his mandate in 2008." Believing that Bush will fail, more
deaths will result, while insisting that it does not matter that
more lives would be lost with the election of Bush. It only
matters to you that you hope to be able to gloat ==> I told
you so <== Not caring at all about those deaths. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=suFjd.9359%248G4.3136%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:uuFjd.9369$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
>> >
>> >
>> > PV once called me his mortal enemy
>> >
>> > Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
>> > am I also Noles mortal enemy?
>> >
>> > I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
>>
>> I doubt that seriously, since even when you're awake... you're still
>> half asleep mentally. :-) It's a problem with those who are elderly,
>> as you are.
>>
>>
>> JN
>
> Because aged 72, you consider yourself not elderly, James? Even when you
> post at 2 or 3 a.m., Florida (Leesburg) time?
You know you've gone crazy... don't you? Given that clear fact,
I no longer even need deny your pathetic drool, since it is so
patently invented. While I would need to be in my 90s to act
as senile as that pathetic ol' coot, Earl. And I have a _regular
life_ during _regular hours_, finding late hours the only time
generally available to me. Unlike you... I have a _real life_,
not one that is based on an obsession, as you have found me.
Ever since I began exposing the evil in your WORDS, which
you thought you could counter by trying to expose my _real
name_ and location. They do not compare, euro. It only
demonstrates that you are INCAPABLE of addressing your
WORDS. They stand as evil... without any action necessary
by me to _investigate you personally_. So you needed ANOTHER
way to try to escape your WORDS. I hope I never can
actually place a real name, to the evil you spew out here. Since
I would find it incredibly painful to me, to actually picture you
as human... you are nothing but an ignorant and evil phrase to
me -- euro - the ignorant and evil... like Satan. But that was
the ONLY weapon you had... since your WORDS ... are what
actually destroy you. See them below --
> What a twat you are. Maybe you could at least have the courage to answer the
> question Earl asked you, but that might require more than a weakling can
> offer.
I answered the question in considerable depth. Much more than
his silly posturing deserves. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=PyZjd.11059%248G4.4472%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
But just exactly how many innocent slaves are you willing to
_trade_ to save one of your precious murderers from the lawful
DP? [5]
JN
> Euro (I LOVE the _race of all murderers_)
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 87 of my posting some
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> >
> > I do not kill Jews, James,
>
> Not from a lack of trying, euro.
I'm not your stepfather, James.
Euro
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From: A Planet Visitor (abc...@abcxyz.com)
Subject: Re: Planet Visitor
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Date: 2000/04/29
I have an interesting personal historical perspective on
Spain. My wife is French, and her father, Italian-French extraction,
was an absolute fanatical Fascist. He fought rather valiantly on
that side during the Spanish Civil War, and was recognized for
his service. After WW II started, and the occupation of France
completed, he was at that time in France, having founded a
middle size factory in Lyon, manufacturing cloth material. Because
of his fanatical Fascist leanings he made close contact with many
of the higher German officials in that area, which provided him
certain monetary advantages, during the occupation. As the
war closed, and in anticipation of the loss of the war, he sent
my wife and her sister (at that time very young toddlers) to live
with his brother in Italy, in the hope they could proceed to
neutral Spain, as France to Spain directly, was virtually
an impossible border crossing, . They made it there
successfully, but when he tried to separately follow them
(with a substantial amount of gold, I might add), he was
picked up by partisan forces and executed on the spot.
After the war, the factory and home were confiscated by
the French government, and the rather large home was
given to the Red Cross. Many years ago, numerous
court appeals to receive some compensation by my wife
and her family were not successful. In fact, her father was
condemned to death on two separate occasions for
collaboration, although he had already been dead for quite
some time. This was done to justify the confiscation of the
property. I do agree that Spain tried very hard to remain
neutral. The population itself leaned very much pro-axis, but
Franco's government, although itself fascist in concept,
tried hard to remain neutral, otherwise Gibraltar would
have been neutralized, or axis controlled.
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> > news:uuFjd.9369$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> >> "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> > news:BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > PV once called me his mortal enemy
> >> >
> >> > Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
> >> > am I also Noles mortal enemy?
> >> >
> >> > I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
> >>
> >> I doubt that seriously, since even when you're awake... you're still
> >> half asleep mentally. :-) It's a problem with those who are elderly,
> >> as you are.
> >>
> >>
> >> JN
> >
> > Because aged 72, you consider yourself not elderly, James? Even when you
> > post at 2 or 3 a.m., Florida (Leesburg) time?
>
> You know you've gone crazy... don't you?
I know YOU've gone crazy, James Noles. And I know that when you come up with
the argument of senility or lack of sleep, it sounds much like the pot
calling the kettle back.
But then, much of what you write evokes this saying.
(remaining hainous ranting snipped)
Euro
--
The James Noles "I build a lie" method:
http://tinyurl.com/5snzw
Earl Evleth
vs...@hotmail.com wrote on 12/11/04 15:50:
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:F3_kd.19194$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:706717fff2b3c7e4...@news.meganetnews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Because aged 72, you consider yourself not elderly, James? Even when you
>>> post at 2 or 3 a.m., Florida (Leesburg) time?
>>
>> You know you've gone crazy... don't you?
>
> I know YOU've gone crazy, James Noles. And I know that when you come up with
> the argument of senility or lack of sleep, it sounds much like the pot
> calling the kettle back.
>
> But then, much of what you write evokes this saying.
I am 72 also, although will soon (Dec 7) be 73. I would say 73 is
"middle old age". Normally senility or Altzheimer's does not show
up statistically at this age, it is after around 79 that the curve
rises quikcly
WHO Statistics show that in France, or Europe in general
the average healthy life time is about this age, the US is slightly less
since it does not take care of its old people so well, especially the
Blacks. The per person average medical costs also start rising rapidly
after 75.
PV's middle of the night postings arenot a sign of old age but
some mental condition which is not dependent on age. Any shrink
would diagnose him as being "weird", or in common argot he is "fucked up".
We all bare withness to this.
Donna and I turn off the light around 11 PM with Gaston also bedded
down with us, sometimes under the covers. In fact, he often comes
and bugs us around 10:30 announcing it is "bed time". He wants
to get up around 7 AM although his active dream life (kicking and
barking) might wake us at any hour (maybe it is PV`s kicking and
barking which disturbs his wife?)
As you may know, people from Alaska judge the temperature on a dog basis. If
you have to have three dogs in bed with you at night it is a "3 dog night",
and very cold.
Paris does not get too cold so Gaston, a small dog helps us pass a
one dog night, or maybe just a half a standard dog.
:-)
Earl
Earl Evleth
vs...@hotmail.com wrote on 12/11/04 12:10:
> My wife is French, and her father, Italian-French extraction,
> was an absolute fanatical Fascist.
In posting this, Euro, do you imply that PV caught "facism" from
his father-in-law?
It is a weird story and goes along with PV`s general weirdness.
Maybe he made it up. He does have an active imagination.
Earl
Jim Noles
You're right, Earl. My _real name_ is actually Sister Maria
Carmeleta... and having taken a vow of silence, Usenet is
my only means of verbally communicating with the outside
world. I needed to take an assumed _real name_ because
the other Nuns would be quite upset if they knew I am here
defending Jewish interests against the likes of you.
Please don't _rat me out_ to the other Sisters.
Ave Maria piena di grazie, il Signore sia con noi, sia santificato
il tuo Nome.
JN
> Earl
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:F3_kd.19194$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:706717fff2b3c7e4...@news.meganetnews.com...
>> >
>> > "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
>> > news:uuFjd.9369$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> >> "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>> > news:BDB15F53.246BE%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > PV once called me his mortal enemy
>> >> >
>> >> > Now that Noles has stolen his identity,
>> >> > am I also Noles mortal enemy?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am losing sleep over this crucial question.
>> >>
>> >> I doubt that seriously, since even when you're awake... you're still
>> >> half asleep mentally. :-) It's a problem with those who are elderly,
>> >> as you are.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JN
>> >
>> > Because aged 72, you consider yourself not elderly, James? Even when you
>> > post at 2 or 3 a.m., Florida (Leesburg) time?
>>
>> You know you've gone crazy... don't you?
>
> I know YOU've gone crazy, James Noles. And I know that when you come up with
> the argument of senility or lack of sleep, it sounds much like the pot
> calling the kettle back.
>
other than already knowing that you are 23 years old, still not
weaned, and do not have time to post after midnight, as you are
out with the _boys_, hammering Jewish tombstones, in the town
of Brumath, were you live with your mother on ------ See -- I will
not _squeal_ on you, euro.
> But then, much of what you write evokes this saying.
>
> (remaining hainous ranting snipped)
>
LOL... what kind of rant was that, euro?
JN
> Euro (where the hell did I put that hammer?)
> --
> The James Noles "I build a lie" method:
> http://tinyurl.com/5snzw
The euro "Jews are disgusting" comment---
http://tinyurl.com/3zjm8
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 103 of my posting some
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:F3_kd.19192$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>
>> >
>> > I do not kill Jews, James,
>>
>> Not from a lack of trying, euro.
>
> I'm not your stepfather, James.
before I ever met my wife. Desmond has claimed that
my stepfather was a Jewish pedophile, as presumably
he believes ALL Jewish stepfathers are pedophiles, since
he certainly knows nothing of any stepfather of mine.
While in fact, I never had a stepfather.
Nor did my father-in-law _kill any Jews_. Or do you argue
that the Jews were killed in France as in Poland? Now...
how many Jews did YOUR father kill, euro? He must have
killed some... to raise a son such as you.
JN
> Euro (was my father a Nazi?)
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> Nor did my father-in-law _kill any Jews_. Or do you argue
> that the Jews were killed in France as in Poland?
Do you deny that Jews were killed in France during world war 2? That sounds
much like negation of the Holocaust to me.
> Now...
> how many Jews did YOUR father kill, euro? He must have
> killed some... to raise a son such as you.
My father was born during world war 2. He never killed anyone, nor supported
the voluntary killing of anyone - this last feature, at least, makes him
much more respectable than you are.
Euro
--
James Noles lives in Leesburg, Florida. Here is the James Noles "I build a
lie" method. One example:
1/ Take an out-of-context quotation from a poster, for instance Planet
Visitor who, about Hitler, wrote that: "he 'deserves criticism' since he
didn't 'finish the job.'
2/ Give the link to this quotation: http://tinyurl.com/6rzqf
3/ You have now I have the "proof" that Planet Visitor is a neo-nazi who
regrets that Hitler didn't "finish the job" and thinks he deserves criticism
for that.
4/ Post and repost at will.
5/ That's the James Noles "I build a lie" method.
Euro
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
That's because you have no means to do so. If you ever got a chance, I bet
you would stalk me. Your behaviour to me, on this group, shows quite well
enough how obsessed you are.
Euro
--
James Noles lives in Leesburg, Florida. Here is the James Noles "I build a
lie" method. One example:
1/ Take an out-of-context quotation from a poster, for instance Planet
Visitor who, about Hitler, wrote that: "he 'deserves criticism' since he
didn't 'finish the job.'
2/ Give the link to this quotation: http://tinyurl.com/6rzqf
3/ You have now I have the "proof" that Planet Visitor is a neo-nazi who
regrets that Hitler didn't "finish the job" and thinks he deserves criticism
for that.
4/ Post and repost at will.
5/ That's the James Noles "I build a lie" method.
Earl Evleth
abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 14/11/04 7:46:
> "Earl Evleth" <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:BDBAA4E6.2666B%evl...@wanadoo.fr...
ss.
>>
>> Maybe he made it up. He does have an active imagination.
>
> You're right, Earl. My _real name_ is actually Sister Maria
> Carmeleta...
You have always come across as a girlie man.
Confession is good for the soul and your`s needs it.
Report back if you are feeling better.
Earl
Donna Evleth
Dans l'article <mbDld.21226$8G4....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, "Jim Noles"
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
Maintenant que votre secret nous est revelé, vous pouvez comptez sur nous de
n'en jamais reveler le moindre mot:-)
Donna Evleth
>
>> Earl
>
Donna Evleth
Dans l'article <xFDld.21555$6w6....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, "Jim Noles"
<abc...@zbqytr.ykq> a écrit :
> ROTFLMAO... You mean my father-in-law. Who was dead
> before I ever met my wife. Desmond has claimed that
> my stepfather was a Jewish pedophile, as presumably
> he believes ALL Jewish stepfathers are pedophiles, since
> he certainly knows nothing of any stepfather of mine.
> While in fact, I never had a stepfather.
>
> Nor did my father-in-law _kill any Jews_. Or do you argue
> that the Jews were killed in France as in Poland? Now...
> how many Jews did YOUR father kill, euro? He must have
> killed some... to raise a son such as you.
>
> JN
We went out to dinner tonight, and I come home and see the above. I think
it is time to stop this sort of trash. I don't care who has claimed what
about whom. This is kindergarten sandbox squabbling. Or it would be if it
weren't so almighty serious, since it deals with the holocaust. This is my
historical period of expertise, I have interviewed real genuine Jewish
survivors in France, and I hate seeing it demeaned to the level of an
Internet newsgroup argument.
To sum up: knock it off, guys.
Donna Evleth
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
"Donna Evleth" <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> This is my
> historical period of expertise, I have interviewed real genuine Jewish
> survivors in France, and I hate seeing it demeaned to the level of an
> Internet newsgroup argument.
>
> To sum up: knock it off, guys.
More common sense. To use anti-Semitism as a cheap tool for cheap
argument trivialises a serious issue. This applies to all involved in
said argument.
--
Mr Q. Z. D.
Jim Noles
a snot-nose, anti-Semite, who is still not weaned at 23. I would
much rather keep that image in my mind, rather than actually
have to deal with someone who actually exists who is as evil
and hateful as you are. Understand that YOU are obsessed with
me, because you continue to post to every comment I offer. You
are obsessed with who I am, and everything about me. And
we both know why that is. Because I continue to recall your
own words... words which are ignorant, and hateful. Ignorant
in the fact that you seldom can offer a comment that is not
filled with contradictions of your past comments. Hateful in
the fact that you have so much negative energy that you
direct toward victims of every sort... all sorts of victims of
murder, victims of the Nazis... victims of Islamic terrorists...
victims of John Wayne Gacy... innocent victims placed into
slavery... victims killed in Iraq.... while murderers are all
that are important to you. You really think I want to _get
to know_ someone as evil as you. You are incredibly
stupid... if you think I do. I want you to be as far away...
as distant from me... as possible. I want you to be on the
planet Pluto... with a breathing apparatus, a lifetime
supply of comic books, a DVD player, a lifetime supply
of disney cartoons, and equipment and the necessities
to keep you alive, but NEVER to interact with any human
contact... that's just how evil you appear to me.
JN
> Euro (Goebbels was polite)
We are about to see an example of euro (who lives in Brumath, France),
using his own method of demonstrating he lies and then lie by claiming
it is the method of another. BTW, euro... I understand you couldn't
find time to attend... but you did send greetings and a contribution --
http://tinyurl.com/4aoo8
> --
> James Noles lives in Leesburg, Florida. Here is the James Noles "I build a
> lie" method. One example:
>
> 1/ Take an out-of-context quotation from a poster, for instance Planet
> Visitor who, about Hitler, wrote that: "he 'deserves criticism' since he
> didn't 'finish the job.'
>
> 2/ Give the link to this quotation: http://tinyurl.com/6rzqf
>
> 3/ You have now I have the "proof" that Planet Visitor is a neo-nazi who
> regrets that Hitler didn't "finish the job" and thinks he deserves criticism
> for that.
>
> 4/ Post and repost at will.
>
> 5/ That's the James Noles "I build a lie" method.
>
Actually that is YOUR method... and you simply demonstrated
it here... and tried to call it mine. But you cannot actually refer
to any real such method from ME. You simply use that lying
method YOURSELF... as you do here... and then try to claim
that it is mine.
My words in the post in question were --
-----------------------------------------------------------
" And I find much evidence in Islamic propaganda that
states a support for Hitler, except that they feel he
'deserves criticism' since he didn't 'finish the job.' See
the words of the 'respected' Muslim columnist Ahmad
Ragab, who wrote in his column entitled "Half a Word,"
in the Egyptian government daily Al-Akhbar -- "Thanks
to the late Hitler, who took revenge in advance for the
Palestinians on the most vile criminals on earth,
though we blame Hitler because his revenge was
not quite enough," See --
http://moise.sefarad.org/belsef.php/id/345/
What insanity must drive such a rage?
------------------------------------------------------------
See that they are not MY feelings or MY words, but
those of someone I detest, from an Islamic propaganda
that I detest. And which I end by calling -- INSANITY.
You already know how I feel about the Islam that you
so love -- see --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Islam.html
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 117 of my posting some
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:xFDld.21555$6w6....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>
>> Nor did my father-in-law _kill any Jews_. Or do you argue
>> that the Jews were killed in France as in Poland?
>
> Do you deny that Jews were killed in France during world war 2? That sounds
> much like negation of the Holocaust to me.
would you insist on not recognizing the words "as in Poland,"
unless YOU argue that the death camps of Poland, existed
in France?
>> Now...
>> how many Jews did YOUR father kill, euro? He must have
>> killed some... to raise a son such as you.
>
> My father was born during world war 2. He never killed anyone, nor supported
> the voluntary killing of anyone - this last feature, at least, makes him
> much more respectable than you are.
Nah... you're a liar... I no more believe your whining than I believe Arafat
never killed anyone. But then again... maybe your father was
a product of one of the Nazi occupiers of France in WW II. Any
truth to that, euro? Two can engage in these insults toward
family members, euro. Just remember that YOU started it.
JN
> Euro (My father the Nazi)
> --
> James Noles lives in Leesburg, Florida. Here is the James Noles "I build a
> lie" method. One example:
We are about to see an example of euro (who lives in Brumath, France),
using his own method of demonstrating he lies and then lie by claiming
it is the method of another. BTW, euro... I understand you couldn't
find time to attend... but you did send greetings and a contribution --
http://tinyurl.com/4aoo8
> 1/ Take an out-of-context quotation from a poster, for instance Planet
> Visitor who, about Hitler, wrote that: "he 'deserves criticism' since he
> didn't 'finish the job.'
>
> 2/ Give the link to this quotation: http://tinyurl.com/6rzqf
>
> 3/ You have now I have the "proof" that Planet Visitor is a neo-nazi who
> regrets that Hitler didn't "finish the job" and thinks he deserves criticism
> for that.
>
> 4/ Post and repost at will.
>
> 5/ That's the James Noles "I build a lie" method.
>
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 116 of my posting some
Jim Noles
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/yours?view=uk
> Report back if you are feeling better.
Never felt better. Each time I zing you it gives me a warm
glow, given your pompous posturing.
JN
> Earl
Earl Evleth
abc...@zbqytr.ykq wrote on 15/11/04 8:03:
> I thought you were educated in the United States, Earl?
No, I was authentically educated in Europe!
Earl
Jim Noles
Thank goodness... Mother Superior was just looking over my
shoulder... :-)
JN
> Donna Evleth
>>
>>> Earl
>>
Jim Noles
Did you find in those interviews that Jewish stepfathers are pedophiles?
Desmond did. He claims that my "Jewish stepfather" was a
pedophile. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=2k0ll7F1731bpU1%40uni-berlin.de
Oh, wait... you don't read Desmond because he is too obscene...
but you seem to be reading him lately.
> To sum up: knock it off, guys.
>
Now, now... Mommy. You must realize that euro has become so
desperate that he is researching my past posts of more than 4 and
a half years ago, at a time when I was much more naive about being
forthcoming in respect to my personal life, which led to the present
debacle of obsessive cyber stalking by your friends. And then
offering them up in claims that my "stepfather" (who he confuses
with my father-in-law), killed Jews. Of course he did not.. he
was simply a successful business man who profited from being
a fascist, until it came back to get him killed, and the profits
from being a fascist confiscated. Strange, however; that you
have happened to clip his accusation which began this, in this
post of yours. How can you ever expect me to maintain my
belief in your objectivity, when you ignore the fact that euro is
insane. Obviously, euro believes in visiting punishment upon the
children of presumed offenders. Given that he opposes the DP
for murderers, and claims that my "stepfather" (father-in-law)
was a murderer, perhaps he believes that my wife deserves to be
executed. You may not care who _started it_, but no one has
set you up as the one who decides these issues, and your comment
should have been more rightly directed to a post from euro, and
to Desmond, rather than to me.
Now... if you really did interview genuine Jewish survivors, then it
seems you could have passed some humanity onto your
spouse.. since he finds that those victims are part of "What is
new in Jewish history is the recent development of Jewish
fascism." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=BD171CAB.3EF6A%25evleth%40wanadoo.fr
And he claims that it is "Curious how Nazism infected some of
their victims." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=BD148058.3E852%25evleth%40wanadoo.fr
Did you find any evidence of Nazism or Jewish fascism in the
victims of the holocaust that YOU interviewed, Donna? And
you really expect me to say nothing. I wonder why? Oh..wait..
now I know... you claim that anti-Semitism is a verboten
subject in a Usenet newsgroup, and mentioning it somehow
demeans it. So it's shhhh.. it's about the Jews... can't say
anything about anti-Semitism... since as euro said... mentioning
that someone is Jewish is the same as saying -- '"Look at Lustiger...
He's a Jew!" How disgusting..." Perhaps euro will find you
are disgusting for having mentioned that you interviewed some
_Jews_.
JN
> Donna Evleth
Jim Noles
your pompous and elitist nature. As Fulghum said -- All I really
need to know about humility I learned in American kindergarten.
While there is no question in my mind that you are no longer able to
provide meaningful commentary on either intellectual inquiry, or moral
activism. Arguments surrounding the humanities are totally lost
on you. You are here as nothing other than a stalking horse for
European anti-Americanism... hoping to divide rather than bring
together a melding of diverse interests and goals. Thank God that
no one of substance takes you seriously any longer.
JN
> Earl
>
Jim Noles
> calling others 'anti-Semites', for want of the ability to debate.
Recall who continues to make negative comments toward the
Jews. That would be you, among others. Recall who continues
to call ME... "Nazi bastard" and "Nazi Noles," because I have
recognized anti-Semitism, in you and others, and it is absurd
to argue ==> shhhh... we can't mention seeing any anti-Semitism
in Usenet.
JN
d...@cyric.cyberian.co.uk
prosecutor in the French Ministry of Justice accurately reposted exactly
for google archive --
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Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
Which is what we've been telling The FuckWit for years. Recall who started
calling others 'anti-Semites', for want of the ability to debate.
--
He_Who_Spnaks_Scum
he_who_sp...@zeouane.org
url:http://tinyurl.com/6ft2u
Jim Noles
> James ''Nazi Bastard' Noles of 402 Ranchwood Drive, Leesburg, FL 34748-81
> (Telephone: (352) 360-2651) <na...@eartlink.net> wrote ...
>> <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote in message news:j0bm62-...@zeouane.org...
>> > Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>> >> In article <4197bdf3$0$22038$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.fr>,
>> >> "Donna Evleth" <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> >> > This is my historical period of expertise, I have interviewed real
>> >> > genuine Jewish survivors in France, and I hate seeing it demeaned to
>> >> > the level of an Internet newsgroup argument.
>> >> >
>> >> > To sum up: knock it off, guys.
>
>> >> More common sense. To use anti-Semitism as a cheap tool for cheap
>> >> argument trivialises a serious issue. This applies to all involved in
>> >> said argument.
>
>> > Which is what we've been telling The FuckWit for years. Recall who
>> > started calling others 'anti-Semites', for want of the ability to
>> > debate.
>
>> Recall who continues to make negative comments toward the
>> Jews.
>
>
ROTFLMAO.
> Unless you count your attempts to cover up your anti-Semitism by posting
> rabidly mouth-foaming but singularly unconvincing 'pro-Jewish' posts.
While you produce quite convincing anti-Jewish posts. Such as
insulting all of the 2.5 million victims of Auschwitz, by comparing them
as no better than around 300 proven murderers. And contending that
Europe -- "In matters of morals, has led the world for over 2000 years."
Which argues that you find the horrendous persecution of the Jews in
that same period in Europe, to be moral. For only two of a tremendous
amount of anti-Jewish comments you have offered in AADP.
Little wonder that you would find my pro-Jewish posts to be unconvincing
to you... you find it impossible for any person to be pro-Jewish, simply
as a matter of your own principles.
What is singularly unconvincing, is your claim that posting 'pro-Jewish'
posts must be an expression of my anti-Semitism, in the most
absurd and twisted mind illogical claim one can imagine. Such as
when you called me a racist... for posting a tribute to MLK. While
you displayed your own racism, in attacking that tribute. I would
imagine that you would thus call anti-Jewish comments to be
against anti-Semitism, and racist comments to be anti-Racism,
in your 'Through the Looking Glass' reverse transformations of up
to down. To defend your own racism and anti-Semitism.
JN
Jim Noles
> James ''Nazi Bastard' Noles of 402 Ranchwood Drive, Leesburg, FL 34748-81
> (Telephone: (352) 360-2651) <na...@eartlink.net> wrote ...
>
>> > Dans l'article <xFDld.21555$6w6....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, "Jim Noles"
>
>> >> ROTFLMAO... You mean my father-in-law. Who was dead before I ever met
>> >> my wife. Desmond has claimed that my stepfather was a Jewish
>> >> pedophile, as presumably he believes ALL Jewish stepfathers are
>> >> pedophiles, since he certainly knows nothing of any stepfather of
>> >> mine. While in fact, I never had a stepfather.
>> >>
>> >> Nor did my father-in-law _kill any Jews_. Or do you argue that the
>> >> Jews were killed in France as in Poland? Now... how many Jews did
>> >> YOUR father kill, euro? He must have killed some... to raise a son
>> >> such as you.
>
>> > think it is time to stop this sort of trash. I don't care who has
>> > claimed what about whom. This is kindergarten sandbox squabbling. Or
>> > it would be if it weren't so almighty serious, since it deals with the
>> > holocaust. This is my historical period of expertise, I have
>> > interviewed real genuine Jewish survivors in France, and I hate seeing
>> > it demeaned to the level of an Internet newsgroup argument.
>
>> Did you find in those interviews that Jewish stepfathers are pedophiles?
>> Desmond did.
>
>
Yes... you did. You do not need to use that particular word, to demonstrate
that was your meaning... See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tfv2i09qgfoluvlvb5kjco6ndvuinu4luq%404ax.com
You cannot deny what you have posted by having not archived your
words. Since that denial constitutes a lie. Your words -- "That's another
reason why he hates his Jewish stepfather (and all Jews): not only
did he sexually abuse him ... but he took him from school, from his
native country, and brought him to 'America' (sic)."
> url:http://www.google.fr/groups?as_epq=Jewish%20stepfathers%20are%20pedophiles&as_uauthors=he_who_sp...@zeouane.org&lr=&num=100&hl=fr
>
> Nope. Let's try the correct spelling of 'paedophile' ...
>
> url:http://www.google.fr/groups?as_epq=Jewish%20stepfathers%20are%20paedophiles&as_uauthors=he_who_sp...@zeouane.org&lr=&num=100&hl=fr
>
> Nope.
>
> Looks like you've been caught out in another lie, FuckWit.
>
LOL... You are the one caught up in the web of your own lies, Desmond.
>> He claims that my "Jewish stepfather" was a pedophile.
>> See -- http://www.google.com/groups?selm=2k0ll7F1731bpU1%40uni-berlin.de
>
> Ah, so by revealing that _your_ Jewish stepfather abused you, you're
> claiming that I believe _all_ Jewish stepfathers to be paedophiles,
> FuckWit, is that right ?
>
Given that you don't KNOW if I even had a Jewish stepfather, the
implication from you is that I did... and that he must have
committed "sexual abuse," simply because you claim he is
Jewish, and a stepfather.
But it would seem that you now admit to your lie, in respect to
denying that you accused _my Jewish stepfather_ of being a
pedophile.
<rest of idiot nonsense clipped>
JN
Just passing by
There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
you wrongly accuse him of writing. It is certainly not me because,
contrary to your lie, I have never "compared" their weight loss to
anything, having never even mentioned their weight loss in any post I
have ever written. It is certainly not Neville, who never said that
the death camps were "OK" in spite of your outrageous lie that he did
say that. It is certainly not Euro, who has never described Cardinal
Lustiger as "disgusting" for being Jewish, as you continue to lie by
repeatedly claiming, but was describing you, and only you, as
"disgusting".
No, James, the only person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
victims is you. You are the one who pretended to be Jewish and
compared your real name being posted here to the Gestapo dragging Jews
out of cellars and sending them to gas chambers. You are the phoney
who tried to exploit the Holocaust by posing as a Jew who had suffered
something on a comparable level. Here is a reminder:
'It was simply a dragging of a Jew from the cellar, and shouting to
the AADP Gestapo ==> Hey, fellow Nazis... look what I found... The
Jew, PV... hiding in the cellar... let's tattoo him' (Jim Noles,
October 14, 2004)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=olKbd.43370%24zY6.39750%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
But then your whole "I am a Jew" charade was blown open by your own
earlier words, such as "I am a gentile ..." You weren't expecting that
to happen. You weren't expecting your outrageous pretence of being
Jewish and your shockingly offensive attempt to equate your merely
being named in a newsgroup with real Jews being herded into gas
chambers, to be so easily exposed by your own Planet Visitor posts.
As I said earlier, you have much in common with the guy in these
reports:
http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/spring03/032445.htm
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0209/article/020951a.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,259546,00.html
Can you see yourself there, James? There was a man who pretended to be
Jewish and to have suffered persecution at the hands of
anti-Semites/Nazis, purely for his own personal gain? You are two of a
kind.
Jim Noles
Oh... but he certainly did. He has frequently compared Texas to
Auschwitz, because Texas has executed around 300 proven murderers
in more than 25 years, and Auschwitz murdered 2.5 million Jews in
a few short years. He sees no difference between the two lives.
> It is certainly not me because,
> contrary to your lie, I have never "compared" their weight loss to
> anything, having never even mentioned their weight loss in any post I
> have ever written.
Of course you did... Right in this post of yours.
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309281656.43b27d4%40posting.google.com
You never missed a beat... in speaking of "the victims of the
Nazi death camps..." and what "Louise Woodward looks like
recently." Not even a period separates your thoughts. They
are connected and will always be connected. It one of the most
vile and disgusting exhibits of unconcern for the "victims of the
Nazi death camps," in trying to USE those victims, to praise
the weight-loss of a baby killer. Simply because you are so
blindly in love. And demonstrated absolutely no concern for
"the victims of the Nazi death camps," if you could USE them
in praising your baby-killer.
> It is certainly not Neville, who never said that
> the death camps were "OK" in spite of your outrageous lie that he did
> say that.
No... I believe he argued that Dachau was "OK." Such as his
words that "Dachau played a very minor role, relatively speaking, in the
Jewish holocaust." And "I must stress that Dachau, Belson, and
Buchanwald were _not_ used as death-camps for Jews." And
"Dachau, Belson, Buchanwald were concentration camps, all of which
held 'career-criminals', political-prisoners and the 'work-shy' to begin
with..." And "Dachau was a concentration camp. It was used to
concentrate dissidents, resistance types, Commies, anti-Nazi religious
types, unacknowledged POWS etc." And ""Cos I say Dachau wasn't
a death-camp?"
And finally -- "That'll be the Holocaust deniers who go out of their way
to make a distinction between concentration-camps (such as Dachau
and Belson) and death-camps such (as Treblinka, Sorbibor, etc.)."
But gee... in all his previous comments he DID "go out of his way,"
to insist on that distinction, which rather admits to his own holocaust
denier.
> It is certainly not Euro, who has never described Cardinal
> Lustiger as "disgusting" for being Jewish, as you continue to lie by
> repeatedly claiming, but was describing you, and only you, as
> "disgusting".
He called it disgusting to mention that Cardinal Lustiger is a Jew.
Which is quite the same. My original comment which mentioned
that Cardinal Lustiger claims to be Jewish, was what is common
knowledge, and was no more intended as an insult than these
mentions that he is Jewish [1]. But euro took it as a Nazi would
take it. He saw ANY mention of Cardinal Lustiger being Jewish
was an INSULT to that Cardinal... He saw the IDEA of someone
being Jewish an insult to that person. As a result of Ol' Racist
Nev insisting that there was no such thing as a _born Jew_, my
comment was meant to disprove that, in these words --
"Given that so many Europeans believe that no human being can
be a 'born Jew,' it's rather insightful that the Cardinal proclaims even
today that "I am a Jew!" while obviously not observing the orthodox
religious following of Judaism. Is there a European who would deny
his claim that 'he is a Jew'?
Apparently I rattled a hornet's nest, because a great number of
Europeans imply that Cardinal Lustiger is either a liar, or delusional,
since they do not agree that having a mother who perished in
Auschwitz because she was Jewish, is enough to make Cardinal
Lustiger, Jewish. As long as Cardinal Lustiger was a _good moral
Catholic_, in euro's eyes, it was one thing... but he was no longer
then SAME PERSON in euro's eyes, after finding out that he
fiercely, and publicly insists he is Jewish.
> No, James, the only person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
> victims is you.
No, sport. You certainly insulted the "victims of the Nazi death
camps." For daring to mention them in the SAME SENTENCE
in which you referred to the _weight-loss_ of a PROVEN BABY-KILLER.
Only a simply comma, for the sake of proper punctuation, is contained
in your USING "the victims of the Nazi death camps," in praising the
_weight-loss_ of that baby-killer.
>You are the one who pretended to be Jewish and
> compared your real name being posted here to the Gestapo dragging Jews
> out of cellars and sending them to gas chambers.
That would be the Gestapo methods of euro, in seeing me as that
Jews that needed to be exposed.
>You are the phoney
> who tried to exploit the Holocaust by posing as a Jew who had suffered
> something on a comparable level. Here is a reminder:
>
> 'It was simply a dragging of a Jew from the cellar, and shouting to
> the AADP Gestapo ==> Hey, fellow Nazis... look what I found... The
> Jew, PV... hiding in the cellar... let's tattoo him' (Jim Noles,
> October 14, 2004)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=olKbd.43370%24zY6.39750%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
That is exactly his methods. Just the same as the Nazis. That is
obviously not an exploitation of the holocaust, but a representation
of the disgusting Nazi nature demonstrated by euro in _exposing_
my real name.
> But then your whole "I am a Jew" charade was blown open by your own
> earlier words, such as "I am a gentile ..."
I've been a Gentile my whole life. I only have Jewish ancestry, which
I have mentioned a few times here, long before euro _exposed_ me
in his Nazi methods, which mirrored the Nazi methods used to
_expose_ the Jews. If that Jewish ancestry had never been
mentioned by me before, it would be different. But it was mentioned
over a year ago, a number of times.
>You weren't expecting that
> to happen.
Actually, I rather did expect it to happen. That's why this has been
more of a long-drawn out process. I fully expected your hate for
the Jews to grow.
>You weren't expecting your outrageous pretence of being
> Jewish and your shockingly offensive attempt to equate your merely
> being named in a newsgroup with real Jews being herded into gas
> chambers, to be so easily exposed by your own Planet Visitor posts.
I believe it was YOU... who compared your baby-killer with those
Jews in the holocaust.
> As I said earlier, you have much in common with the guy in these
> reports:
>
> http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/spring03/032445.htm
>
> http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0209/article/020951a.html
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,259546,00.html
>
>
> Can you see yourself there, James? There was a man who pretended to be
> Jewish and to have suffered persecution at the hands of
> anti-Semites/Nazis, purely for his own personal gain? You are two of a
> kind.
No... I cannot see myself there, JPB... But I can see someone who
hates the Jews, in you. I have never claimed to be Jewish, except in
clear and obvious overstatement, or hyperbole. Obviously when I
referred to _PV the Jew_, I was referring to the Nazi method of
euro, in _exposing_ (his very word) my _real name_, just as the
Nazis did in going door to door, trucking away Jews, and branding
them with tattoos which would always be with them. euro really
felt proud of his Gestapo tactics. And this intrusion into my personal
life bothered me deeply. Given that you operate here anonymously
it would seem you would understand... but your love for a baby-killer,
and your hate for me, now multiplied by knowing of my Jewish
ancestry, blinds you. Of course, it passed... and it no longer bothers
me as much... since the bell obviously cannot be "unrung." While
your hate for the Jews... can also never be "unrung."
JN
[1]
Bartleby, one of the most respected sources of quotations certainly provides
a URL that demonstrates the Cardinal has no 'desire for privacy' by providing
a quotation of his for public view -- See
http://www.bartleby.com/63/81/4381.html
AUTHOR: Jean Marie Cardinal Lustiger, Archbishop of Paris
QUOTATION: "I was born Jewish and so I remain, even if that's unacceptable
for many.. For me, the vocation of Israel is bringing light to the goyim. That's
my hope and I believe that Christianity is the means for achieving it."
Then we have his speech upon receiving the 1998 Nostra Aetate Award See --
http://www.nostreradici.it/lustiger.htm
His words when speaking of his life as a Jew in WW II --
"I do remember the ones who provided me with forged documents.
I do remember those who helped me get across the demarcation line.
I do remember those who warned me that I might be arrested soon.
I do remember those who put me up without asking any questions.
I do remember those whom I trusted and who never betrayed me.
I do remember what they did for me in those times of dereliction."
Then we have his public address fully acknowledging his Jewish roots,
at a memorial to the 76,000 Jews sent from France to Nazi concentration
camps. See --
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/archives/1999Apr/73apr14,vol.10,no.73txt/apr14nv4.htm
Then a Jewish source which refers to direct quotations from Cardinal Lustiger.
See --
http://www.baruchhashem.com/resources/reconciliation.html
A Messianic Judaism source which quotes Lustiger's words -- ""By embracing
Christianity, I have not denied that I am Jewish. I wish that Christians would not
forget that they have been grafted on to a single root. And that root is Israel. And
the root remains."
And then we have the reporting of the Jerusalem Post of a television interview he
gave... See --
http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/18.May.1997/Columns/Article-3.html
In which he is quoted as saying ""It is a fit privilege for me to speak in Israel on
Yom HaShoah. After all, virtually my entire family perished in the Holocaust, and I
consider myself no less a Jew than my parents and grandparents,"
Do any of these PUBLIC comments indicate that he does not wish to
proudly claim that Jewish descent? He finds it a source of PRIDE.
While euro asserted he is disgusted by what he calls _exposing_
the Cardinal as Jewish.
How about an interview on ABC-Australia with the Cardinal in which his
Jewish roots were mentioned, and his possibilities of being elected Pope --
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/s341458.htm
Then we have the book published under his authority... "Choosing God Chosen
by God." Conversations with Cardinal Lustiger... Published first in French... and
translated into English. See --
http://www.xkms.org/Ignatius-Press-2/Choosing-God-Chosen-By-God.htm
His own words, which relate to his Jewish heritage.
Then we have the various respected sources of information that report on
his comments.
CNN reported --
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/26/france.cardinal/
"Jewish-born priest is 'pope's man in Paris' Some see Cardinal Lustiger as
successor"
Time.com... reported --
http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/papacy/succession.html
"Archbishop of Paris, Lustiger was born of a Polish Jewish family in France."
MSNBC reported --
http://www.msnbc.com/news/981193.asp?0si=-
"Jean-Marie Lustiger
Country: France (Archbishop of Paris)
Age: 77
Assets: Jewish? Shore up Old Europe Christendom.
Liabilities: Jewish! Too old.
Lustiger's mother, a Jew, was killed at Auschwitz. If the cardinals wanted to
generate excitement in Europe, choosing Lustiger sure would be a dramatic way to do
it. Do Jews consider him Jewish? Technically, yes. As Rabbi Joseph Telushkin,
author of Jewish Literacy, said, "According to Jewish law, a person born to a Jewish
mother is Jewish, and being Jewish is not something a person can renounce."
The BBC reported --
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1341495.stm
"Cardinal Jean Marie Lustiger, the Archbishop of Paris, a Jewish convert to
Catholicism."
The International Herald-Tribune reported --
http://www.iht.com/IHT/JV/97/jv032997.html
"How does a prince of the Roman Catholic church, who says he has ''always
considered myself a Jew,'' Note that the IHT QUOTES him.
The Guardian reported --
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,651667,00.html
"Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger, a converted Jew and Archbishop of Paris,"
How's about a book he authored which speaks of his early life as a Jew --
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0824507789/qid=1072508666/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-2649178-6446331?v=glance&s=books
"Catholic World News," reported --
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=2232
"Paris' Jewish-born cardinal condemned the racist rhetoric in French politics as
the same hatred that killed his parents 50 years ago. Cardinal Jean-Marie
Lustiger said..."
"Jewish Australia" reported --
http://www.jewishaustralia.com/cardinal.htm
"Lustiger was born in Paris in 1926, the son of Polish Jewish migrants. He
converted to the Catholic faith in 1940, but in what has been a paradoxical
position for most, and a highly controversial one for many, he has never
ceased to identify with his Jewish background and experience"
and a few more --
http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=1254
"INTRODUCING POPE LUSTIGER
The next Jewish pope"
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jeanmariec117479.html
"Quote: Jean Marie Cardinal Lustiger
"I was born Jewish and so I remain, even if that's unacceptable for many.""
http://www.888webtoday.com/lustiger.html
"Born in Paris in 1926, the son of Polish Jewish migrants, Aaron Lustiger
celebrated his 13th birthday as war broke out. His father placed him in the
care of a Catholic family and although he never sought to sever his Jewish
roots (he remains a great supporter of Israel), in 1940, aged 14, he
converted to Catholicism."
How about a few more? There are hundreds at least --
http://www.catholicmart.com/breadfromhea.html
A Catholic oriented web page -- "Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger, Cardinal
of Paris, France, summarized their journeys when he explained he was
not abandoning being a Jew but discovering its real meaning."
http://www.companymagazine.org/v152/blessed.html
Another person born a Jew, not practicing Judaism, speaks of the
similarities he finds in Lustiger -- "have studied Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger's
life and thinking quite carefully, for I, too, by birth and initial upbringing am a
Jew. I am also a member of the Oregon Province of the Society of Jesus."
http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Misc_Studies/ms083.htm
"There are a few especially interesting things about Lustiger. For one, he's of
Jewish descent, and his name used to be Aaron."
http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Inside/01-97/BIOGRAFI.htm
"Jean-Marie Lustiger was born on September 17, 1926 in Paris, France. His
parents were Jewish Poles who perished in the Nazi deportations."
http://www.catholicherald.com/cns/syrian.htm
How about another Catholic web page... "French Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger --
a Jew by birth -- joined the Catholic delegation in Damascus and told French
reporters that he considered Assad's remarks offensive and deserving of an
international diplomatic protest."
http://www.paris.org/Kiosque/nov01/jewish.html
"The present Archbishop of Paris, Jean-Marie Lustiger, was born Aaron
Lustiger, a Jew."
And the Daily Catholic Organization from Rome
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2000Jun/jun23nv2.htm
"Cardinal Lustiger knew wherefrom he speaks, as he is of Jewish origin.
His mother died in Auschwitz. "
Just passing by
From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
> > victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
> > you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>
> Oh... but he certainly did. He has frequently compared Texas to
> Auschwitz, because Texas has executed around 300 proven murderers
> in more than 25 years, and Auschwitz murdered 2.5 million Jews in
> a few short years. He sees no difference between the two lives.
You are lying and now trying to change your lies around. There is no
post in which Desmond has ever said that the Auschwitz victims were
"no better than around 300 proven murderers" which was exactly what
you accused him of saying. Show a link to such a post or admit your
lie. That is one of many holocaust related lies of yours that is going
to come back to haunt you soon.
>
> > It is certainly not me because,
> > contrary to your lie, I have never "compared" their weight loss to
> > anything, having never even mentioned their weight loss in any post I
> > have ever written.
>
> Of course you did... Right in this post of yours.
> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309281656.43b27d4%40posting.google.com
> You never missed a beat... in speaking of "the victims of the
> Nazi death camps..." and what "Louise Woodward looks like
> recently." Not even a period separates your thoughts.
Then to very easily expose your lie, let's look at the exact words I
wrote:
_____________________________________________
He calls her "The Great White Whale". He says she is fat. But PV, the
man who has also tried to mock and insult the victims of the Nazi
death camps, has not seen what Louise Woodward looks like recently.
The latest picture of LW, published in a British newspaper on
Saturday, tells a very different story to that which PV, totally
incapable of handling the hard evidence relating to that case, has
always tried to use as a smokescreen to hide his ignorance behind.
Check out this URL:
http://uk.geocities.com/unimpressed901/
________________________________________________
Clearly there is no mention of the death camp victims' weight loss and
so no such comparison was made. The only comparison was between your
insults to the death camp victims (i.e. your earlier giggling about
the holocaust) and your insults to LW. The weight loss reference
applied to LW only.
And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
"compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
"I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
Look at that part in brackets: "not thinking about their 'weight
loss'!!". See how that completely contradicts your lie that I have
"compared" LW's weight loss to theirs.
So, as the above words of yours prove, you believed that I had written
the words in question without considering the possible connection to
the weight loss of the death camp victims. You believed, and stated,
that I had been totally oblivious to the fact that such a connection
might be seen. Yet, in total contradiction to your own words, you
still repeatedly lied by claiming the very opposite, i.e. that I had
consciously compared the weight loss of LW to that of the death camp
victims. Your lies are thus proven conclusively and incontrovertibly
by your own contradictory words.
Here is another one proving your lie:
"JPB found it necessary to include the 'weight-loss' of a baby killer
in the
same sentence in which he referred to the holocaust. Without the
slightest
pause or understanding what 'weight-loss' was experienced by those
victims
of the holocaust."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=n4cnnvg3fjrq8p8hi449iu4qeqf87c9unk%404ax.com
The key part of that is:"Without the slightest pause or understanding
what 'weight-loss' was experienced by those victims of the holocaust."
So that direct contradiction again proves your deliberate lie. If you
believed I had no understanding of the weight loss of the death camp
victims, why did you also claim that I was directly comparing their
weight loss with that of LW?
Answer: because you lied but lack what a good liar needs - a good
memory.
You claimed that I was "not thinking about their weight loss" because
you thought you could make a point about me not thinking before I
wrote something, and having no "understanding" of their weight loss.
But then, forgetting that you had written those things, you changed
the lie to my having "compared" their weight loss with that of LW.
James Noles, you are a compulsive liar but are also too stupid to get
away with your lying because you trip yourself up all the time. You
did it with the contradictory claims you made there and you did it
with your contradictory claims about being both Jewish and Gentile. I
say again: you quite simply have neither the memory nor the intellect
to get away with telling so many lies.
>
> > It is certainly not Neville, who never said that
> > the death camps were "OK" in spite of your outrageous lie that he did
> > say that.
>
> No... I believe he argued that Dachau was "OK."
He did no such thing and I have exposed this blatant lie of yours many
times, such as here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
You claimed that Neville actually used the word "okay" in describing
death camps. I pursued you on this until you were finally cornered
with nowhere left to run to. And your excuse for telling that
outrageous and disgusting lie about another poster was utterly
staggering and almost unbelievable, even by your standards. You said
... wait for it ... "the quote was in his mind ..."
Even I was astonished that even you could try to justify such an
extreme example of blatant defamation with an excuse like that and so
posted an entirely new thread with the title "The quote was in his
mind ..."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309270622.371d6429%40posting.google.com
That is another one that is going to come back to haunt you.
> > It is certainly not Euro, who has never described Cardinal
> > Lustiger as "disgusting" for being Jewish, as you continue to lie by
> > repeatedly claiming, but was describing you, and only you, as
> > "disgusting".
>
> He called it disgusting to mention that Cardinal Lustiger is a Jew.
> Which is quite the same.
Then once again, let's look at the exact words:
PV wrote: 'Quite clearly, I endorse the opinion of a great many
rational people who find that the Jew has a long linage from His
Hebrew ethnic roots. Why would you attempt to inject 'genetics' into
it... unless you have some
Nazi thoughts?'
Euro wrote: 'Or unless _you_ have. I don't inject anything in a debate
that stinks, and that you stubbornly repeatedly throw here, on this
group. Do you have a problem with Jews? That's a question _you_ have
to answer.'
PV wrote: 'Why would you think that?'
Euro wrote: 'Well... because of what you post. Your original thread
about Lustiger sounded very much like "Look at Lustiger... He's a
Jew!"
'How disgusting...
'Euro'
There is absolutely no question about it: Euro was accusing you of
calling Lustiger disgusting for being a Jew. He was not expressing
that as a view of his own. Look at the quotation marks around the
words; they completely separate those words from Euro's own thoughts.
If I call you a disgusting liar who has posed as a Jew, I would write
it in exactly that way. I wouldn't write it thus: 'James Noles, you
are a "disgusting liar who has posed as a Jew" ' using quotation
marks, would I?
And yet you have, for more than a year, been lying, day in, day out,
about those words of Euro's. You have accused him both directly and
behind his back to other posters, of using those words as an
expression of his own opinions when clearly they were not at all.
So once again, we see yet another example of you exploiting the issue
of anti-Semitism for your own gain.
But then, more recently, you went that extra step in your attempts to
exploit that serious issue and the issue of the holocaust. You tried
to pose as a Jew yourself and pretended to be a victim of
anti-Semitism, when as we now know, you are not Jewish at all. That,
James, was a step too far.
In doing that, you crossed a boundary that even you had previously
avoided stepping over. Exploiting the holocaust for your own gain, for
the purpose of defaming other posters, was something you had been
doing for years, but then, pretending to personally be a victim of the
very thing that caused the holocaust, and equating your own naming in
this group with real Jews being gassed, in the hope of somehow giving
your lies about anti-Semitism more potency and authority, was a low
point that even I never expected you to descend to.
The fraud, Binjamin Wilkomirski, did it in the hope of getting rich
from sales of his book. You did it in the hope of gaining sympathy
from some posters here, as a substitute for the ability to debate
properly, which you so lack, and for one other reason. You are no more
Jewish than he is and, if anything, you are even more immoral. He
posed as a Jew and as a victim of anti-Semitism for personal gain but
without any malicious intent against other people. You, on the other
hand, posed as a Jew and did what you did with entirely malicious
intent against certain regulars of this group. That is what makes you
worse than Binjamin Wilkomirski.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,259546,00.html
http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/spring03/032445.htm
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0209/article/020951a.html
Jim Noles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
>
>> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
>
>> >
>> > There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
>> > victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
>> > you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>>
>> Oh... but he certainly did. He has frequently compared Texas to
>> Auschwitz, because Texas has executed around 300 proven murderers
>> in more than 25 years, and Auschwitz murdered 2.5 million Jews in
>> a few short years. He sees no difference between the two lives.
>
> You are lying and now trying to change your lies around.
No, sport. I am not lying.. His words were "Even Auschwitz wouldn't
execute a 72-year-old man, Richard ... " See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=CW4Kb.114492%24Dt6.3334305%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
And as an _excuse_ for that comment, he has insisted that it is meant
to compare Auschwitz to being no different than Texas. So either his
words are accepted as meaning that, and my comment stands, or he
ACTUALLY BELIEVES that "Auschwitz wouldn't execute a 72-year-old
man..."
> There is no
> post in which Desmond has ever said that the Auschwitz victims were
> "no better than around 300 proven murderers" which was exactly what
> you accused him of saying. Show a link to such a post or admit your
> lie. That is one of many holocaust related lies of yours that is going
> to come back to haunt you soon.
See above. He claims that Texas IS Auschwitz. Because Texas has
executed about 300 proven murderers. While 2.5 million Jews were
executed in Auschwitz. He finds them just the same -- 300 proven
murderers <==> 2.5 Million innocent Jews. No difference to him.
Which is why he refers to Texas as Auschwitz. He has claimed that
Texas <==> Auschwitz... because Texas executes murderers, while
Auschwitz murdered 2.5 million Jews. He find those murderers lawfully
executed, given decades to guarantee their rights under due process
to be no different than those totally innocent 2.5 million Jews. What
an enormous insult to those victims of Auschwitz!
>> > It is certainly not me because,
>> > contrary to your lie, I have never "compared" their weight loss to
>> > anything, having never even mentioned their weight loss in any post I
>> > have ever written.
>>
>> Of course you did... Right in this post of yours.
>> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309281656.43b27d4%40posting.google.com
>> You never missed a beat... in speaking of "the victims of the
>> Nazi death camps..." and what "Louise Woodward looks like
>> recently." Not even a period separates your thoughts.
>
> Then to very easily expose your lie, let's look at the exact words I
> wrote:
>
> _____________________________________________
>
> He calls her "The Great White Whale". He says she is fat. But PV, the
> man who has also tried to mock and insult the victims of the Nazi
> death camps, has not seen what Louise Woodward looks like recently.
>
> The latest picture of LW, published in a British newspaper on
> Saturday, tells a very different story to that which PV, totally
> incapable of handling the hard evidence relating to that case, has
> always tried to use as a smokescreen to hide his ignorance behind.
>
> Check out this URL:
>
> http://uk.geocities.com/unimpressed901/
>
> ________________________________________________
>
> Clearly there is no mention of the death camp victims' weight loss and
> so no such comparison was made.
Are you saying that when one thinks about the "victims of the Nazi
death camps," that the idea of their physical appearance does not
register in their mind? Obviously it did not register in YOUR mind!
You were only out to call ME an anti-Semite, while YOU displayed
your clear anti-Semitism by not even considering the PHYSICAL
APPEARANCE of the "victims of the Nazi death camps" as you raved
about the PHYSICAL APPEARANCE of your baby-killer. In your --
SEE "what Louise Woodward looks like recently," gloating.
> The only comparison was between your
> insults to the death camp victims (i.e. your earlier giggling about
> the holocaust) and your insults to LW. The weight loss reference
> applied to LW only.
Only you have "giggled at the Holocaust." In trying to accuse me
of that. And you used that lie, in making reference to a post in
which I spoke about Desmond offering his signature *giggle* of
a (sic) at every mention of 9/11, and never even mentioned the
Holocaust in the post in which YOU suddenly transformed 9/11
into the Holocaust. This is my post that you responded to
in which you "giggled at the Holocaust," in your response --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=8cgfmvc41fgtjcsp2u7s8qdoo4s366611g%404ax.com
There is not the slightest mention of the Holocaust or the Jews
or anything of that sort in my post, but you LIED and took 9/11
as being the Holocaust. This has always been your method, JPB.
The lie... the psychotic intention to make others appear evil...
the persistent, extreme, and elaborate plotting in hoping to
"character assassinate" those who disagree with your view.
Your attempts to paint me as a racist, which simply exposed
your own racism. Your attempts to paint me as an anti-Semite,
which simply exposed your own anti-Semitism. Attempting to
USE the "victims of the Nazi death camps," as you stained the
front of your pants in thinking about the _new look_ of your
baby killer.
You ignored completely the victims of the Holocaust in the very
short sentence, above. Not even thinking about them. Only
concerned with offering a lie about me, USING those victims...
and then experiencing a sexual orgasm in thinking about the
_weight-loss_ of your baby-killer. Even posting a URL you had
created as a SHRINE to her. You're sick, JPB. You need help...
desperately. You thought NOTHING about the "victims of the Nazi
death camps," other than trying to USE them, while salivating over
the _new look_ of your baby-killer.
> And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
> "compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
> because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
> conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
> misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
>
> On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
>
> "I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
> sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
> about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
Yes.. that would be YOU... in YOUR post. I considered how
those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED. You never
gave it a thought, in trying to USE them. I instantly recognized
what was happening with your comment. While you USED those
victims, in the very same breath that you mentioned the _new
look_ of your baby killer.
Did you at any moment actually think of the "victims of the Nazi
death camps," as you posted that monstrously offensive sentence?
Of course not! You mind was totally absorbed with the _new look_
of your baby killer love. Did you for a single moment consider how
emaciated those six million innocent humans appeared as they were
murdered? No... you did not! You were consumed with the _new
look_ of your baby killer.
Your insensitivity to those murdered victims was both bizarre and
lamentable. And I saw that instantly. It had a shockingly surreal
and paralyzing quality to it... as if no human could be that insensitive
in the written word. I was immediately stunned when first looking at
that sentence.
I had known that you did not take the Holocaust seriously, having first
introduced the idea that it could hold a "giggle" in your words. With
you having referred to the Holocaust in the most insensitive of terms,
always in the false claim that I was what YOU are. But that particular
sentence of yours was mind-numbing.
> Look at that part in brackets: "not thinking about their 'weight
> loss'!!". See how that completely contradicts your lie that I have
> "compared" LW's weight loss to theirs.
You're delusional again. You were NOT thinking about the _weight
loss_ experienced by the "victims of the Nazi death camps" in your
comment. You were ONLY thinking about the _new look_ of your
baby killer.
> So, as the above words of yours prove, you believed that I had written
> the words in question without considering the possible connection to
> the weight loss of the death camp victims. You believed, and stated,
> that I had been totally oblivious to the fact that such a connection
> might be seen. Yet, in total contradiction to your own words, you
> still repeatedly lied by claiming the very opposite, i.e. that I had
> consciously compared the weight loss of LW to that of the death camp
> victims. Your lies are thus proven conclusively and incontrovertibly
> by your own contradictory words.
Oh.. you gloated all right. In trying to USE those victims.
> Here is another one proving your lie:
>
> "JPB found it necessary to include the 'weight-loss' of a baby killer in the
> same sentence in which he referred to the holocaust. Without the slightest
> pause or understanding what 'weight-loss' was experienced by those victims
> of the holocaust."
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=n4cnnvg3fjrq8p8hi449iu4qeqf87c9unk%404ax.com
Quite true... the very same SENTENCE. Your words "the victims of the
Nazi death camps, has not seen what Louise Woodward looks like
recently." Only four words "has not seen what.." separate those victims
from your view of that baby killer. Not a pause... not a new sentence...
but the same thought. Your idea... first look at "the victims of the
Nazi death camps," THEN look immediately at the _new look_ of your
baby killer.
> The key part of that is:"Without the slightest pause or understanding
> what 'weight-loss' was experienced by those victims of the holocaust."
>
> So that direct contradiction again proves your deliberate lie. If you
> believed I had no understanding of the weight loss of the death camp
> victims, why did you also claim that I was directly comparing their
> weight loss with that of LW?
So your _defense_ is that you DIDN'T think about the physical condition
of those "victims of the Nazi death camps." How disgusting! Not even
thinking about them, as you USED them to have a sexual orgasm over
your baby-killer's weight loss. And then you claim that you actually
are CONCERNED about the victims of the Holocaust? Having now
apparently admitted that you gave not the slightest thought to how
"the victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED... as you had that
sexual orgasm is respect to how your baby killer now LOOKED!!
> Answer: because you lied but lack what a good liar needs - a good
> memory.
LOL... What is needed is a good memory to catch a liar... And you
certainly fear my memory of your words.
> You claimed that I was "not thinking about their weight loss" because
> you thought you could make a point about me not thinking before I
> wrote something, and having no "understanding" of their weight loss.
> But then, forgetting that you had written those things, you changed
> the lie to my having "compared" their weight loss with that of LW.
>
Oh... you compared them all right. The construction of your sentence
proves you compared them in your mind. You just did not think about
how those victims looked, in your obsession with that baby killer.
> James Noles, you are a compulsive liar but are also too stupid to get
> away with your lying because you trip yourself up all the time. You
> did it with the contradictory claims you made there and you did it
> with your contradictory claims about being both Jewish and Gentile. I
> say again: you quite simply have neither the memory nor the intellect
> to get away with telling so many lies.
So your argument is that Cardinal Lustiger is a liar, when he states he
is Jewish, since he certainly is a Gentile? Go ahead... call HIM a liar,
for claiming he is Jewish. After all, he _only_ had his mother perish
in Auschwitz for being Jewish... but that certainly wouldn't bother you.
Since we all know that you are unconcerned about the victims of the
Holocaust, when it might have a negative effect on the _new look_ of
your baby killer.
>> > It is certainly not Neville, who never said that
>> > the death camps were "OK" in spite of your outrageous lie that he did
>> > say that.
>>
>> No... I believe he argued that Dachau was "OK."
>
> He did no such thing and I have exposed this blatant lie of yours many
> times, such as here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
Well, thank you for referring to the appropriate comments which show he
felt that Dachau was _okay_. But you obviously have lied, since you
insisted that I claimed that Ol' Racist Nev said that "the death camps
were "OK." And I never accused him of that. I claimed that he was
insisting that Dachau (not one of the assembly line extermination
machines of the Nazis in Eastern Poland) was _okay_. He continued
to demand that distinction between Dachau and the death camps, in
order to make it appear that Dachau was _okay_. Dachau was, of
course, not an assembly line extermination machine, but it was NOT
_okay_, while he tried to paint it as _not that bad_. Certainly no
worse than Guantanamo, in his mind.
> You claimed that Neville actually used the word "okay" in describing
> death camps.
No... I never claimed he used the WORD "okay." He implied in his
many positive comments about Dachau that it was a rather _safe
place to be_ in WW II for the Jews.
> I pursued you on this until you were finally cornered
> with nowhere left to run to. And your excuse for telling that
> outrageous and disgusting lie about another poster was utterly
> staggering and almost unbelievable, even by your standards. You said
> ... wait for it ... "the quote was in his mind ..."
Of course it was.
> Even I was astonished that even you could try to justify such an
> extreme example of blatant defamation with an excuse like that and so
> posted an entirely new thread with the title "The quote was in his
> mind ..."
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309270622.371d6429%40posting.google.com
>
>
> That is another one that is going to come back to haunt you.
>
LOL... You mean like my mention that you compared the "victims
of the Nazi death camps" in the same sentence to the _weight-loss_
of a baby-killer?
>> > It is certainly not Euro, who has never described Cardinal
>> > Lustiger as "disgusting" for being Jewish, as you continue to lie by
>> > repeatedly claiming, but was describing you, and only you, as
>> > "disgusting".
>>
>> He called it disgusting to mention that Cardinal Lustiger is a Jew.
>> Which is quite the same.
>
> Then once again, let's look at the exact words:
>
> PV wrote: 'Quite clearly, I endorse the opinion of a great many
> rational people who find that the Jew has a long linage from His
> Hebrew ethnic roots. Why would you attempt to inject 'genetics' into
> it... unless you have some Nazi thoughts?'
>
> Euro wrote: 'Or unless _you_ have. I don't inject anything in a debate
> that stinks, and that you stubbornly repeatedly throw here, on this
> group. Do you have a problem with Jews? That's a question _you_ have
> to answer.'
>
> PV wrote: 'Why would you think that?'
>
> Euro wrote: 'Well... because of what you post. Your original thread
> about Lustiger sounded very much like "Look at Lustiger... He's a
> Jew!"
>
> 'How disgusting...
>
> 'Euro'
>
> There is absolutely no question about it: Euro was accusing you of
> calling Lustiger disgusting for being a Jew.
Not a single word in there would imply that I had called Lustiger
any such thing. What euro found DISGUSTING, was my mention
that Cardinal Lustiger was Jewish. He found my mention of Cardinal
Lustiger asserting he was Jewish, to be DISGUSTING to him. In
any case, the actual comment that euro was referring to from me,
since none of my words you quote above, reflect the mention of
Cardinal Lustiger, before euro mentioned the Cardinal, were my
words -- "Given that so many Europeans believe that no human
being can be a 'born Jew,' it's rather insightful that the Cardinal
proclaims even today that "I am a Jew!" while obviously not
observing the orthodox religious following of Judaism. Is there
a European who would deny his claim that 'he is a Jew'?" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1o0unvkr0p9hf26q144kk08q5a5o1d9s2u%404ax.com
If you notice I state what Cardinal Lustiger has stated. Which
is what euro referred to in his comment, and what he took to
be DISGUSTING in my comment.
This was my comment in respect to Cardinal Lustiger, that euro
called DISGUSTING. And yet... Those ARE the feelings of Cardinal
Lustiger, and I find NOTHING disgusting about his feelings or my
comment on his feelings. But apparently you are one of those
Europeans, who like euro, find it DISGUSTING to mention that
Cardinal Lustiger is a Jew.
> He was not expressing
> that as a view of his own. Look at the quotation marks around the
> words; they completely separate those words from Euro's own thoughts.
> If I call you a disgusting liar who has posed as a Jew, I would write
> it in exactly that way. I wouldn't write it thus: 'James Noles, you
> are a "disgusting liar who has posed as a Jew" ' using quotation
> marks, would I?
Actually, he was NOT quoting me... since I had never posted the
words he used. He was trying to paraphrase my comment to make
it appear to have a Nazi intention. Given that you were so outraged,
at my use of a "period," in my demonstration of Desmond wishing
to DESTROY a tribute to MLK, you are apparently still having
another hypocrisy episode.
> And yet you have, for more than a year, been lying, day in, day out,
> about those words of Euro's. You have accused him both directly and
> behind his back to other posters, of using those words as an
> expression of his own opinions when clearly they were not at all.
>
I have always quoted him EXACTLY... while he never quoted ME
exactly. And HE was the one who asserted he was DISGUSTED at
the mention that Cardinal Lustiger was Jewish.
> So once again, we see yet another example of you exploiting the issue
> of anti-Semitism for your own gain.
>
ROTFLMAO. What "gain" would that be, JPB? Given that I have
never called it DISGUSTING to mention that someone is Jewish,
unless there is a clear slur attached to it, or one of the various
slurs are used in place of such a mention. euro, in fact, found
it DISGUSTING to even MENTION that Cardinal Lustiger is Jewish.
Yet... we have these sources that also mention that he is Jewish.
Are they ALL anti-Semitic? Apparently, euro would argue that
they ALL intend to insult the Cardinal, because they mention that
he is Jewish. And you agree with euro, obviously. [1]
<rest of personal attacks because JPB has his own anti-Semitism to
deal with clipped>
JN
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/JPB.html
Just passing by
No, "see above" is not an answer because what I challenged you to do
was completely ignored in your words above. I challenged you to show a
post in which Desmond said that the Auschwitz victims were "no better
than around 300 proven murderers". You haven't done that because you
know he never said any such thing.
So once again your lies about what another poster has said have been
exposed and once again you have frantically tried to divert attention
from that exposure with a mass of irrelevant and unconnected matters.
Now that your real name and location are known, one might have thought
that you would be more careful about the lies you tell about people.
Any possible delays and complications involved in suing you for libel
have now been removed.
Then there we have it: an admission that you have been lying about
that matter for the last fourteen months. You have repeatedly claimed
that I "compared" their weight loss to that of LW, even though clearly
no such comparison was ever made. But as you admit there, you never
even believed that yourself; you didn't misread it; you didn't
misunderstand it. You believed, as you admit above, that the death
camp victims' weight loss did not even register in my mind.
Once again your lies are exposed by your own contradictions.
> You were only out to call ME an anti-Semite, while YOU displayed
> your clear anti-Semitism by not even considering the PHYSICAL
> APPEARANCE of the "victims of the Nazi death camps" ...
And there is another admission that you lied when accusing me of
"comparing" their weight loss. If you believed that I didn't even
consider their weight loss, then obviously you were lying by claiming
that I compared it. So that is two admissions of lying (so far) in
that last post of yours.
> You ignored completely the victims of the Holocaust in the very
> short sentence, above. Not even thinking about them.
And now it is three times, in just one post, that you have admitted
lying when claiming that I "compared" their weight loss, by now
contradicting that with your claim that I "ignored completely" those
victims, and wasn't "even thinking about them".
>
> > And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
> > "compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
> > because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
> > conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
> > misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
> >
> > On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
> >
> > "I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
> > sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
> > about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
>
> Yes.. that would be YOU... in YOUR post. I considered how
> those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED. You never
> gave it a thought ...
Four times now! That is four clear admissions of having lied
repeatedly for the last fourteen months about my having "compared" the
death camp victims' weight loss.
>
> Did you at any moment actually think of the "victims of the Nazi
> death camps," as you posted that monstrously offensive sentence?
> Of course not!
Five times! Five separate admissions of guilt in one James Noles post.
This is more than a record; it's a miracle.
> Did you for a single moment consider how
> emaciated those six million innocent humans appeared as they were
> murdered? No... you did not!
SIX! Six separate admissions from you that you have been lying for
fourteen months by claiming to have believed that I "compared" their
weight loss.
> > Look at that part in brackets: "not thinking about their 'weight
> > loss'!!". See how that completely contradicts your lie that I have
> > "compared" LW's weight loss to theirs.
>
> You're delusional again. You were NOT thinking about the _weight
> loss_ experienced by the "victims of the Nazi death camps" in your
> comment.
SEVEN admissions from James Noles that he lied ... and all in the same
post.
> So your _defense_ is that you DIDN'T think about the physical condition
> of those "victims of the Nazi death camps."
Defence? My defence? Just how crazy have you become? I have done
nothing that needs defending. This isn't about me, you idiot; it is
about you and your now admitted (seven times, no less) lie that I
"compared" the weight losses of LW and the death camp victims. You no
longer have the possible defence of claiming to have misread or
misunderstood what I originally wrote because you have admitted seven
times in your latest post alone, and at least twice previously, that
you never believed that, but believed that I "didn't think about the
physical condition" of those victims.
You are the proven and self-confessed liar, and you talk about my
"defence"??????
>
> > James Noles, you are a compulsive liar but are also too stupid to get
> > away with your lying because you trip yourself up all the time. You
> > did it with the contradictory claims you made there and you did it
> > with your contradictory claims about being both Jewish and Gentile. I
> > say again: you quite simply have neither the memory nor the intellect
> > to get away with telling so many lies.
>
> So your argument is that Cardinal Lustiger is a liar, when he states he
> is Jewish, since he certainly is a Gentile?
There is no comparison between Cardinal Lustiger and yourself. He was
born Jewish but you were not - it is that simple. He hasn't lied about
his Jewish background but you have about yours - it is that simple. He
hasn't tried to exploit his genuine suffering to gain sympathy but you
have tried to exploit your imagined and non-existent suffering to gain
sympathy - it is that simple.
No, James, you can in no way be compared to Cardinal Lustiger, but you
can instead be compared, very closely, to Binjamin Wilkomirski, the
fraud who falsely claimed to be Jewish and a victim of anti-Semitism -
just as you have done.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,259546,00.html
> Go ahead... call HIM a liar,
> for claiming he is Jewish.
No, I call YOU a liar because your lies about being Jewish have been
exposed by your own earlier words.
> After all, he _only_ had his mother perish
> in Auschwitz for being Jewish...
Yes, and again the difference is that his story is true, whereas yours
is a lie. In spite of your ridiculous words about "PV the Jew" being
dragged from the cellar by the Gestapo, and then taken to the gas
chambers, you have never been a victim of anti-Semitism because you
are not Jewish. Your hysterical reaction to merely being named and
shamed in this group was a vile insult to Cardinal Lustiger and every
other genuine victim of the holocaust, living or dead. You have tried
to reduce the holocaust to nothing worse than having your real name
posted in a single newsgroup. You have likened that to real Jews being
dragged from cellars by the Gestapo and then sent to gas chambers.
And it is all there in the Google archives, where it will remain for
anyone wanting to see for themselves the truth about the real James
Noles, the man who posed as a Jew for the purpose of exploiting
anti-Semitism and the holocaust for his own ends, and who insulted
every death camp victim and their surviving relatives - such as
Cardinal Lustiger - by likening what they went through to nothing more
than the loss of an anonymous posting handle.
>
> >> > It is certainly not Neville, who never said that
> >> > the death camps were "OK" in spite of your outrageous lie that he did
> >> > say that.
> >>
> >> No... I believe he argued that Dachau was "OK."
> >
> > He did no such thing and I have exposed this blatant lie of yours many
> > times, such as here:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309190831.105ba1e9%40posting.google.com
>
> Well, thank you for referring to the appropriate comments which show he
> felt that Dachau was _okay_. But you obviously have lied, since you
> insisted that I claimed that Ol' Racist Nev said that "the death camps
> were "OK." And I never accused him of that. I claimed that he was
> insisting that Dachau (not one of the assembly line extermination
> machines of the Nazis in Eastern Poland) was _okay_. He continued
> to demand that distinction between Dachau and the death camps, in
> order to make it appear that Dachau was _okay_. Dachau was, of
> course, not an assembly line extermination machine, but it was NOT
> _okay_, while he tried to paint it as _not that bad_. Certainly no
> worse than Guantanamo, in his mind.
>
> > You claimed that Neville actually used the word "okay" in describing
> > death camps.
>
> No... I never claimed he used the WORD "okay."
Oh yes you did. Below is the whole paragraph in which you made that
accusation:
___________________________________________________
Oh, well... that made them okay, in Ol' Racist Nev's view. Of course
he
has also claimed that the death camps were "okay," since those
executed
as Jews, could have only chosen to BE JEWS.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=unbcdv0ammt9g9ovl3uf0dndc4nrfijfi3%404ax.com
____________________________________________________
See those double quotation marks around the word "okay"? But he never
used that word. You lied.
Now look at some more of your own words about your use of double
quotation marks.
________________________________________________
"Whether you like it or not, desi... I have told you that I use
double-quotes for EXACT quotes, and single-quotes for a variety of
different means of emphasis." (A Planet Visitor, February 8, 2002)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=328b4v4b20f3c3kt8u0odcouncu18g8kb6%404ax.com
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"I will ONLY use double quotes, as I always have to indicate DIRECT,
ACCURATE, QUOTES of the words of others." (A Planet Visitor, September
17, 2003)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=q68imvgpmeme0agg309afl45ljrhri934d%404ax.com
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That settles it. By your own stated rules on the use of double
quotation marks, you certainly DID accuse Neville of saying that the
death camps were "okay". Yet again, the Google archives have exposed
not only your original lie, but also your subsequent attempts to deny
having told it.
He implied in his
> many positive comments about Dachau that it was a rather _safe
> place to be_ in WW II for the Jews.
>
> > I pursued you on this until you were finally cornered
> > with nowhere left to run to. And your excuse for telling that
> > outrageous and disgusting lie about another poster was utterly
> > staggering and almost unbelievable, even by your standards. You said
> > ... wait for it ... "the quote was in his mind ..."
>
> Of course it was.
>
> > Even I was astonished that even you could try to justify such an
> > extreme example of blatant defamation with an excuse like that and so
> > posted an entirely new thread with the title "The quote was in his
> > mind ..."
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309270622.371d6429%40posting.google.com
> >
> >
> > That is another one that is going to come back to haunt you.
> >
> LOL... You mean like my mention that you compared the "victims
> of the Nazi death camps" in the same sentence to the _weight-loss_
> of a baby-killer?
Yes, because as you have now admitted no fewer than seven times in one
post alone, you never really saw any such comparison made, but have
been lying for fourteen months by claiming to have seen one.
At this point I will make a slight correction to what I wrote. What
Euro was calling "disgusting" was you for the manner in which you were
referring to Cardinal Lustiger, and not, as I suggested, claiming that
you had used the word "disgusting" to describe Lustiger.
But that slight error I made there does not change the fact that Euro
was not calling Lustiger disgusting, which is what you have falsely
accused him of doing.
> What euro found DISGUSTING, was my mention
> that Cardinal Lustiger was Jewish.
No, what he found disgusting was the manner and context in which you
described Lustiger as Jewish. Euro was defending Lustiger, not
attacking him.
>
> <rest of personal attacks because JPB has his own anti-Semitism to
> deal with clipped>
Then once again, allow me to unclip those words that so trouble you
because of the matter they deal with, which has now become such a huge
embarrassment to you, and which, as I said in another post, you will
never be able to shake off.
Jim Noles
Given that he finds Texas to be the SAME as Auschwitz, there is no
doubt that he finds the victims of Auschwitz to be _no better_ than the
murderers executed in Texas. Now you may wish to DEFEND Auschwitz,
and defend Desmond for comparing the murder of 2.5 million innocent
Jews with the lawful execution of about 300 proven murderers, but that would
not be any change from your past efforts to insult the "victims of the Nazi
death camps," and defend Desmond for spitting in the face of MLK.
> So once again your lies about what another poster has said have been
> exposed and once again you have frantically tried to divert attention
> from that exposure with a mass of irrelevant and unconnected matters.
>
There is only Desmond's clear indication of connecting Auschwitz to
Texas. With him finding the two to be completely identical. And
doing so in order to make it appear as if the execution of 300 proven
murderers has the same meaning as the murder of 2.5 million Jews.
Reducing those same Jews to nothing more than proven murderers.
> Now that your real name and location are known, one might have thought
> that you would be more careful about the lies you tell about people.
> Any possible delays and complications involved in suing you for libel
> have now been removed.
>
LOL... Yeah, Desmond is going to sue me for him calling me "Nazi Noles,"
and "Nazi Bastard," because I dare to criticize his statement that Texas
is Auschwitz. You see, JPB... As Desmond once remarked about those
who might wish to know HIS location, that in doing so HE would then
know where THEY are, if Desmond tried to sue me, I would then know
where HE is.
However; there is no doubt in my mind that YOU find Auschwitz to have
been no worse than Texas, JPB. So why don't YOU sue me? If you
defend Desmond for comparing Texas to Auschwitz, then you must
also see Texas as Auschwitz...so go ahead and sue me... because I
state that I think YOU find no difference between 300 murderers and
2.5 million innocent Jews.
Ah, but you USED that comparison in the very same sentence. What
did not happen, is that the condition of those "victims of the death camps,"
the physical appearance of them in their wraith-like, emaciated
condition apparently did not register in your mind. Or it DID register
and yet you cared NOTHING about how they LOOKED. You were
fixated with how your baby killer LOOKED. But you certainly compared
them, by using those "victims of the Nazi death camps," in the very
same sentence, attempting to make ME the anti-Semite, while YOU
demonstrated your own anti-Semitism in just a few short words.
Those words of yours -- "He calls her "The Great White Whale". He
says she is fat. But PV, the man who has also tried to mock and
insult the victims of the Nazi death camps, has not seen what Louise
Woodward looks like recently." Huddled between your use of the
word "FAT," and your adoration for that baby killer... an insult to
"the victims of the Nazi death camps."
> But as you admit there, you never
> even believed that yourself; you didn't misread it; you didn't
> misunderstand it. You believed, as you admit above, that the death
> camp victims' weight loss did not even register in my mind.
>
> Once again your lies are exposed by your own contradictions.
Thank you for admitting that the weight loss of "the victims of
the Nazi death camps" did not even register in your mind, as you
had an orgasm dreaming about the _new look_ of that baby killer
who holds your obsession. Apparently the word "FAT" did not
cause you to make that mental connection to the appearance
of the victims of the Nazi death camps. You plowed right ahead.
>> You were only out to call ME an anti-Semite, while YOU displayed
>> your clear anti-Semitism by not even considering the PHYSICAL
>> APPEARANCE of the "victims of the Nazi death camps" ...
>
> And there is another admission that you lied when accusing me of
> "comparing" their weight loss. If you believed that I didn't even
> consider their weight loss, then obviously you were lying by claiming
> that I compared it. So that is two admissions of lying (so far) in
> that last post of yours.
>
You USED those victims, JPB. And you compared THEM in
the very same sentence to the weight-loss of your baby killer.
The fact that you might have no thought about how they looked
as you made that suggestion in the very same sentence, is quite
as damning as the idea that you DID consider how they looked
in the very same sentence. If you DID NOT think about how they
looked, as you climaxed in dreaming about the _new look_ of your
baby killer, what does that say about YOU? It says you do not
even think about them in their condition. And right after your use
of the word "FAT." You simply wanted to USE them, in your
own anti-Semitic attempt. They are nothing to you but a TOOL
to defend your baby-killer. While if you DID think about how they
looked, that is quite as much a demonstration of your unconcern
for those victims. In both cases... you just don't CARE about
those "victims of the Nazi death camps." It's ALL ABOUT
your baby killer's _new look_, to you.
>> You ignored completely the victims of the Holocaust in the very
>> short sentence, above. Not even thinking about them.
>
> And now it is three times, in just one post, that you have admitted
> lying when claiming that I "compared" their weight loss, by now
> contradicting that with your claim that I "ignored completely" those
> victims, and wasn't "even thinking about them".
But you did IGNORE them. In fact, you INSULTED them. Just by
the mention of them in having that orgasm about your baby-killer's
_new look_. What essentially is your argument here? That you DID
NOT think about how "the victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED,
and just wanted to USE them, displaying your own anti-Semitism in
that use, or that you DID think about how "the victims of the Nazi
death camps" LOOKED? And didn't CARE! I can't read your mind...
but you must have done one or the other, in USING them in the very
same thought when speaking of the _new look_ of your baby killer.
So you know your mind... which was it? You DID NOT think about
how those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED, as you used
them, or you DID think about how those "victims of the Nazi death
camps" LOOKED, but just didn't CARE, as you were experiencing a
climax thinking about the _weight-loss_ of your baby killer?
In either case, there is the idea of COMPARISON, given that nothing
other then a small comma separates the two...in your words.
>> > And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
>> > "compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
>> > because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
>> > conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
>> > misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
>> >
>> > On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
>> >
>> > "I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
>> > sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
>> > about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
>>
>> Yes.. that would be YOU... in YOUR post. I considered how
>> those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED. You never
>> gave it a thought ...
>
> Four times now! That is four clear admissions of having lied
> repeatedly for the last fourteen months about my having "compared" the
> death camp victims' weight loss.
>
I don't care if you try to excuse your words a thousand times. They
are recognized as an INSULT to those "victims of the Nazi death
camps" since you either IGNORED how they looked, in salivating
over the exact same physical affliction that those victims SUFFERED
under, which you saw as a POSITIVE in the case of your baby killer,
or you recognized how they looked, but just didn't CARE.
>>
>> Did you at any moment actually think of the "victims of the Nazi
>> death camps," as you posted that monstrously offensive sentence?
>> Of course not!
>
> Five times! Five separate admissions of guilt in one James Noles post.
> This is more than a record; it's a miracle.
>
See above. You know what was in your mind.
>
>> Did you for a single moment consider how
>> emaciated those six million innocent humans appeared as they were
>> murdered? No... you did not!
>
> SIX! Six separate admissions from you that you have been lying for
> fourteen months by claiming to have believed that I "compared" their
> weight loss.
>
See above. The "victims of the Nazi death camps" MEAN NOTHING
to you.
>> > Look at that part in brackets: "not thinking about their 'weight
>> > loss'!!". See how that completely contradicts your lie that I have
>> > "compared" LW's weight loss to theirs.
>>
>> You're delusional again. You were NOT thinking about the _weight
>> loss_ experienced by the "victims of the Nazi death camps" in your
>> comment.
>
> SEVEN admissions from James Noles that he lied ... and all in the same
> post.
>
See above. If you WERE thinking about the _weight loss_ of the "victims
of the Nazi death camps," can that possibly excuse YOU? Does that
somehow eliminate the proof that you did not CARE about them? I
have a hard time deciding which is worse. The idea that you DID NOT
think about how the victims looked, or the idea that you DID think about
how the victims looked and went ahead anyway, because you were on
the verge of that climax. The fact is that I IMMEDIATELY saw the
connection of how those victims LOOKED, and how you were praising
how your baby-killer LOOKED. In your same sentence.
>> So your _defense_ is that you DIDN'T think about the physical condition
>> of those "victims of the Nazi death camps."
>
>
> Defence? My defence? Just how crazy have you become? I have done
> nothing that needs defending.
I never expected you to actually believe you needed to defend yourself
for USING "the victims of the Nazi death camps" in the same breath
that you praised the _weight-loss_ of your baby killer. The very fact
that you find you do not feel the need to defend yourself in that
stunningly grotesque sentence, simply proves how little you care for
"the victims of the Nazi death camps," and how consumed you are
with your baby-killer.
>This isn't about me, you idiot; it is
> about you and your now admitted (seven times, no less) lie that I
> "compared" the weight losses of LW and the death camp victims. You no
> longer have the possible defence of claiming to have misread or
> misunderstood what I originally wrote because you have admitted seven
> times in your latest post alone, and at least twice previously, that
> you never believed that, but believed that I "didn't think about the
> physical condition" of those victims.
> You are the proven and self-confessed liar, and you talk about my
> "defence"??????
>
LOL... You know your mind, JPB. If you claim you THOUGHT about
how "the victims of the Nazi death camps," LOOKED, as you praised
how your baby-killer now LOOKED, that would argue that I did not
properly judge what you were thinking of. So... perhaps you DID
think about how "the victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED...
but decided to USE them anyway, because you didn't CARE how
they looked. Apparently I should thank you for clearing up that point.
You admit that you DID think about the physical condition of those
victims... so you DID compare them with the _weight-loss_ of your
baby killer.
>> > James Noles, you are a compulsive liar but are also too stupid to get
>> > away with your lying because you trip yourself up all the time. You
>> > did it with the contradictory claims you made there and you did it
>> > with your contradictory claims about being both Jewish and Gentile. I
>> > say again: you quite simply have neither the memory nor the intellect
>> > to get away with telling so many lies.
>>
>> So your argument is that Cardinal Lustiger is a liar, when he states he
>> is Jewish, since he certainly is a Gentile?
>
> There is no comparison between Cardinal Lustiger and yourself. He was
> born Jewish but you were not - it is that simple.
My point is that Cardinal Lustiger is both Jewish and Gentile. An idea that
has been rejected by a great many European posters here. And one I believe
that you reject.
> He hasn't lied about
> his Jewish background but you have about yours - it is that simple. He
> hasn't tried to exploit his genuine suffering to gain sympathy but you
> have tried to exploit your imagined and non-existent suffering to gain
> sympathy - it is that simple.
I am not looking for sympathy, JPB. I am not Jewish. Yet for over
two years I have stated on a few occasions that I had Jewish ancestry,
and never thought that much about it. Until your friend, euro, used
Nazi Gestapo methods to expose PV, which offered me the view that
those methods were the same as the Nazis used to expose the Jews.
And let us not forget that euro believes that Cardinal Lustiger has
connections with the anti-Semitic extreme right, because the Cardinal
STRESSES his own Jewish origins. Since euro claimed that ANYONE
doing that has such connections... in euro's words --- "It so happens
that those, in Europe, that are eager to stress Lustiger's Jewish origins,
have connexions with anti-semitic extreme right." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dd7b24844c1b79d34bac9efbb48e2fcd%40news.meganetnews.com
Cardinal Lustiger is in Europe, and is eager to stress his own Jewish
origins... thus see what euro accuses the Cardinal of. Or are you
arguing that Cardinal Lustiger DOES NOT stress his own Jewish
origins? I think writing and publishing a book about his Jewish
origins, is sufficient proof that he DOES stress those Jewish origins.
> No, James, you can in no way be compared to Cardinal Lustiger, but you
> can instead be compared, very closely, to Binjamin Wilkomirski, the
> fraud who falsely claimed to be Jewish and a victim of anti-Semitism -
> just as you have done.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,259546,00.html
>
Apparently you purpose is to declare that there is no such thing as
anti-Semitism, because one person tried to make MONEY off of
anti-Semitism. I seek no money, nor fame. I am not Jewish, while
I have 1/8th Jewish ancestry.
>> Go ahead... call HIM a liar,
>> for claiming he is Jewish.
>
> No, I call YOU a liar because your lies about being Jewish have been
> exposed by your own earlier words.
>
But I am not Jewish. You seem to be terribly offended by the Jews,
and the idea of Jewish ancestry, JPB.
> > After all, he _only_ had his mother perish
>> in Auschwitz for being Jewish...
>
> Yes, and again the difference is that his story is true, whereas yours
> is a lie.
There is no lie to my having Jewish ancestry.
> In spite of your ridiculous words about "PV the Jew" being
> dragged from the cellar by the Gestapo, and then taken to the gas
> chambers, you have never been a victim of anti-Semitism because you
> are not Jewish.
But I've seen it. I've seen it in those who try to paint others as
anti-Semites because those others support Jewish interests. You
have never seen me do anything else but support Jewish interests.
I've seen it in those who try to USE "the victims of the Nazi death
camps" to advance their own sick agenda. I've seen YOU try to
USE them. You simply cannot avoid the fact that you USED
the victims of the Nazi death camps, sandwiched between your
use of the word "FAT," and your disgusting display of affection
for that presumed _loss of fat_ by a proven baby killer. It is
monstrous and abnormal to have used those victims in such
a way.
>Your hysterical reaction to merely being named and
> shamed in this group was a vile insult to Cardinal Lustiger and every
> other genuine victim of the holocaust, living or dead.
The only vile insult to the Jews, is to compare in the very same sentence
"the victims of the Nazi death camps" to the weight loss of a baby killer.
>You have tried
> to reduce the holocaust to nothing worse than having your real name
> posted in a single newsgroup. You have likened that to real Jews being
> dragged from cellars by the Gestapo and then sent to gas chambers.
>
There is a similarity of METHODS. And a similarity of PURPOSE. Obviously
the physical effect cannot be compared. euro's METHOD was similar
to that of the Gestapo, searching past records, to _expose_ the Jews.
And the PURPOSE was stated as the same by euro. TO PUNISH...
to EXTERMINATE. And you will see that after a few days, the handle
PV WAS exterminated by euro, after being suitably tattooed to expose
that handle, just as the Jews were tattooed before being exterminated.
And he gloated about what he felt was _appropriate punishment_. Just
as the Nazis gloated about what they felt was _appropriate punishment_
for the Jews. I doubt seriously that you would take kindly to anyone
exposing your real name here.
> And it is all there in the Google archives, where it will remain for
> anyone wanting to see for themselves the truth about the real James
> Noles, the man who posed as a Jew for the purpose of exploiting
> anti-Semitism and the holocaust for his own ends, and who insulted
> every death camp victim and their surviving relatives - such as
> Cardinal Lustiger - by likening what they went through to nothing more
> than the loss of an anonymous posting handle.
>
Only you have insulted "the victims of the Nazi death camps," JPB.
In your words -- "He calls her "The Great White Whale". He says
she is fat. But PV, the man who has also tried to mock and insult
the victims of the Nazi death camps, has not seen what Louise
Woodward looks like recently." The idea that you would use the
WORD "FAT," and then speak of "the victims of the Nazi death
camps," and then AGAIN orgasm over the _loss of fat_ by your
baby killer is grotesque.
I have already said that such a QUOTE, was meant as MY meaning.
I have admitted that it was NOT MEANT to be a quote of his exact
words. If you wish to make a _big deal_ of this, as you did with a
_period_ to hide Desmond's admission that he wanted to DESTROY
my tribute to JPB... fine. Make a big deal of it. But Ol' Racist Nev's
PURPOSE was to try and make Dachau more ACCEPTABLE to
our minds. And later he even admitted that those who use such
methods are "Holocaust deniers" In his EXACT WORDS -- ""That'll
be the Holocaust deniers who go out of their way to make a
distinction between concentration-camps (such as Dachau and Belson)
and death-camps such (as Treblinka, Sorbibor, etc.)."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0305300601.31e990fc%40posting.google.com
Since he spent a considerable effort in going out of HIS way to
insist on that distinction. Such as his comments --
"I must stress that Dachau, Belson, and Buchanwald were
_not_ used as death-camps for Jews."
and --
"Cos I say Dachau wasn't a death-camp?"
and --
"Dachau played a very minor role, relatively speaking, in the
Jewish holocaust."
and --
"... Dachau (or any other camp that was used to house 'dissidents' away
from the public without trial for indefinate periods)."
and --
"Dachau was a concentration camp. It was used to concentrate
dissidents, resistance types, Commies, anti-Nazi religious types,
unacknowledged POWS etc. in a small geographic location away from the
German population and out of the way of the German army."
and --
"Dachau, Belson, Buchanwald were concentration camps, all of which held
'career-criminals', political-prisoners and the 'work-shy'... "
> Now look at some more of your own words about your use of double
> quotation marks.
>
> ________________________________________________
>
> "Whether you like it or not, desi... I have told you that I use
> double-quotes for EXACT quotes, and single-quotes for a variety of
> different means of emphasis." (A Planet Visitor, February 8, 2002)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=328b4v4b20f3c3kt8u0odcouncu18g8kb6%404ax.com
>
> __________________________________________________
>
> "I will ONLY use double quotes, as I always have to indicate DIRECT,
> ACCURATE, QUOTES of the words of others." (A Planet Visitor, September
> 17, 2003)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=q68imvgpmeme0agg309afl45ljrhri934d%404ax.com
>
> _____________________________________________________
>
> That settles it. By your own stated rules on the use of double
> quotation marks, you certainly DID accuse Neville of saying that the
> death camps were "okay". Yet again, the Google archives have exposed
> not only your original lie, but also your subsequent attempts to deny
> having told it.
>
LOL... Recall your words about the powers of Judge Zobel -- "I stated it
as a fact that he had no power in this case to do that. It remains a fact..."
But your "fact" was a big lie. Wasn't it? Your _friend_, Desmond,
proved that it was your lie.
>> He implied in his
>> many positive comments about Dachau that it was a rather _safe
>> place to be_ in WW II for the Jews.
>>
>> > I pursued you on this until you were finally cornered
>> > with nowhere left to run to. And your excuse for telling that
>> > outrageous and disgusting lie about another poster was utterly
>> > staggering and almost unbelievable, even by your standards. You said
>> > ... wait for it ... "the quote was in his mind ..."
>>
>> Of course it was.
>>
>> > Even I was astonished that even you could try to justify such an
>> > extreme example of blatant defamation with an excuse like that and so
>> > posted an entirely new thread with the title "The quote was in his
>> > mind ..."
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309270622.371d6429%40posting.google.com
>> >
>> >
>> > That is another one that is going to come back to haunt you.
>> >
>> LOL... You mean like my mention that you compared the "victims
>> of the Nazi death camps" in the same sentence to the _weight-loss_
>> of a baby-killer?
>
> Yes, because as you have now admitted no fewer than seven times in one
> post alone, you never really saw any such comparison made, but have
> been lying for fourteen months by claiming to have seen one.
Oh, but I DID see such a comparison. I saw it variously as you
IGNORING how those victims LOOKED, or NOT CARING how
those victims looked. One or the other must be true.
He was calling the mention that Cardinal Lustiger could BE Jewish...
DISGUSTING. He finds the MENTION of someone being Jewish
disgusting to him. He claimed that Cardinal Lustiger demands
PRIVACY, and does not WANT it to be known that he is Jewish.
Which is most certainly a disgusting lie on the part of euro.
>> What euro found DISGUSTING, was my mention
>> that Cardinal Lustiger was Jewish.
>
> No, what he found disgusting was the manner and context in which you
> described Lustiger as Jewish. Euro was defending Lustiger, not
> attacking him.
>
This was my comment which euro paraphrased in his Nazi mind,
to make it appear Nazi, so he could attack the MENTION that
Cardinal Lustiger is Jewish. My words. The very first time, more
than a year ago, that I mentioned Cardinal Lustiger in any way --
"Given that so many Europeans believe that no human being can
be a 'born Jew,' it's rather insightful that the Cardinal proclaims even
today that "I am a Jew!" while obviously not observing the orthodox
religious following of Judaism. Is there a European who would deny
his claim that 'he is a Jew'?"
See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1o0unvkr0p9hf26q144kk08q5a5o1d9s2u%404ax.com
In fact, my comment can in no way be seen as an _insult_ to
Cardinal Lustiger. It was one of the few things I would say would make
me proud of him. Aside from his RC religious beliefs which might
turn my stomach. His stressing the fact that he is "born Jewish."
Which was the heart of my argument with so many in respect to
the possibility of being "born Jewish," beginning with Ol' Racist
Nev, which to my mind depends upon 1) A person having this very
close and necessary Jewish descent, and 2) That person ASSERTING
that he wishes to be seen as Jewish because of that close Jewish
descent. In other words... this particular case of being Jewish having
NOTHING to do with following the orthodox Jewish religion. In a
sense the argument that a Jew can be secular, and still maintain
he is Jewish, through the culture and heritage of his ancestry.
Something asserted by 2.8 million Jews in the U.S. alone.
euro continues to find the idea of someone being Jewish by dint
of birth of such ethnic descent DISGUSTING to him. This is essentially
the way euro feels... that there is no _real Jewish people_. It is
only a religion to him. And the idea that it is MORE than a religion...
is what he finds DISGUSTING.
I am not Bingamin Wilkomirski. I did not expect to profit from any
claim to being Jewish. I am not Jewish. But YOU ARE the one
who tried to USE the victims of the Nazi death camps. You're a
very sick man, JPB. Given that YOU tried to USE the "victims
of the Nazi death camps" in the same breath that you had an
orgasm about the _new look_ of your baby killer. Not THAT'S...
DISGUSTING.
Just passing by
So it is now three times that you have tried to skate around the
challenge to show where Desmond said that Auschwitz victims were "no
better than around 300 proven murderers". That very familiar pattern
will indicate to everyone who has seen it from you countless times,
that you lied and are now desperately trying to cover up your lies
with more words than most people care to read in the hope that they
will give you the benefit of the doubt rather than wade through it
all.
But they no longer do give you the benefit of the doubt because they
have seen it all before so many, many times.
> > Now that your real name and location are known, one might have thought
> > that you would be more careful about the lies you tell about people.
> > Any possible delays and complications involved in suing you for libel
> > have now been removed.
> >
> LOL... Yeah, Desmond is going to sue me for him calling me "Nazi Noles,"
> and "Nazi Bastard," because I dare to criticize his statement that Texas
> is Auschwitz. You see, JPB... As Desmond once remarked about those
> who might wish to know HIS location, that in doing so HE would then
> know where THEY are, if Desmond tried to sue me, I would then know
> where HE is.
>
> However; there is no doubt in my mind that YOU find Auschwitz to have
> been no worse than Texas, JPB. So why don't YOU sue me? If you
> defend Desmond for comparing Texas to Auschwitz, then you must
> also see Texas as Auschwitz...so go ahead and sue me... because I
> state that I think YOU find no difference between 300 murderers and
> 2.5 million innocent Jews.
I won't sue you, James, because that would be letting you off too
lightly. If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
character with a new and far more devastating site about your attempts
to pose as a Jew. Only this time the exposure would not be limited
only to users of this newsgroup. I think I could probably persuade
some of the webmasters of Jewish themed websites to put up links to a
site with a title like "James Noles - Florida's Own Binjamin
Wilkomirski". And it wouldn't take long to generate a heavy stream of
traffic using various methods involving all the right key words, to
ensure wide exposure on the various search engines. Further
selectively placed links and messages, for example on geographically
relevant message boards, appealing for any extra interesting
information, could greatly add to the site's content. And all that is
without even having sat down and given any amount of real thought to
how effective I could make it.
I think it still hasn't dawned upon you that James Noles cannot get
away with what A Planet Visitor could get away with. You said recently
that now the bell has been rung, it can't be unrung. That's true, but
how many more bells are there out there?
So you may rest assured that I will not be suing you for your lies. If
I ever decide to stop being Mr Nice Guy with you, I won't be looking
to the courts for anything.
No I didn't, as you have now admitted. You are now contradicting
yourself in successive posts.
> What
> did not happen, is that the condition of those "victims of the death camps,"
> the physical appearance of them in their wraith-like, emaciated
> condition apparently did not register in your mind.
So now you are contradicting yourself in successive SENTENCES.
> The fact that you might have no thought about how they looked
> as you made that suggestion in the very same sentence, is quite
> as damning as the idea that you DID consider how they looked
> in the very same sentence.
The only thing that is damning is the only thing this matter is
concerned with, which is not whether I did or didn't consider "how
they looked" but the fact that you lied repeatedly for fourteen months
by claiming that I "compared" the weight losses of LW and the death
camp victims. The words I wrote prove that to be a false claim and
your subsequent admissions that you believed I didn't consider "how
they looked" prove that it was a deliberate false claim - in other
words, a lie.
> I can't read your mind...
But you claimed to be able to read Neville's mind when you defended
your lies about what he had written with that memorable line, "The
quote was in his mind."
>
> In either case, there is the idea of COMPARISON, given that nothing
> other then a small comma separates the two...in your words.
The comparison was concerned with insults, not weight loss. I compared
your insults to LW with your insults to the death camp victims. The
reference to weight loss applied only to LW, not to the death camp
victims, and therefore there was no comparison relating to weight loss
anywhere in that post. That is how simple this is and anyone reading
what I wrote will see that immediately.
>
> >> > And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
> >> > "compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
> >> > because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
> >> > conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
> >> > misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
> >> >
> >> > On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
> >> > sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
> >> > about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
> >>
> >> Yes.. that would be YOU... in YOUR post. I considered how
> >> those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED. You never
> >> gave it a thought ...
So, as you admit above, it was you, not me, who compared the weight
losses. I only compared the insults, so why did you spend fourteen
months repeatedly lying by accusing me of doing what you and only you
did?
> >>
> >> So your argument is that Cardinal Lustiger is a liar, when he states he
> >> is Jewish, since he certainly is a Gentile?
> >
> > There is no comparison between Cardinal Lustiger and yourself. He was
> > born Jewish but you were not - it is that simple.
>
> My point is that Cardinal Lustiger is both Jewish and Gentile. An idea that
> has been rejected by a great many European posters here. And one I believe
> that you reject.
>
> > He hasn't lied about
> > his Jewish background but you have about yours - it is that simple. He
> > hasn't tried to exploit his genuine suffering to gain sympathy but you
> > have tried to exploit your imagined and non-existent suffering to gain
> > sympathy - it is that simple.
>
> I am not looking for sympathy, JPB.
Don't be so ridiculous. You crave sympathy like a junkie craves his
crack, heroin or whatever. You have, many times in the past, succeeded
in eliciting sympathy from some posters and have then tried to misuse
their words to fuel and reinforce your hate campaigns against other
posters.
> I am not Jewish. Yet for over
> two years I have stated on a few occasions that I had Jewish ancestry,
For over two years you vigorously insisted that you were not Jewish.
Example:
"... how many times must I tell you... I'm not Jewish." (A Planet
Visitor, Feb. 16, 2004)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nmt0301fbg8nfemtlp2e0cfm17m0p07lub%404ax.com
But then as soon as your handle changed to your real name, you decided
that a good way of gaining sympathy and increasing the potency of your
lies about and attacks on other posters would be to pose as being
Jewish. Example:
"Why do you hate me, euro? Is it because I'm a Jew? And why do you
hate the Jews? What did we ever do to you?" (James Noles, November 7,
2004)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=suFjd.9360%248G4.5690%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
And that pretence of being Jewish would have continued if your early
strenuous denials of being Jewish - which one can only presume you had
completely forgotten about - had not been reposted to prove what a
liar and fake you are.
So your next move was to attempt to turn this around and create
confusion by trying to use those denials of being Jewish you made
during your PV period, to "prove" that you had never really claimed to
be a Jew. Example:
"Not a chance. You are simply demonstrating more of your obsession,
because there is no way that my comments could be seen as SERIOUSLY
claiming I was Jewish, given the great number of times I have
categorically denied I am Jewish." (James Noles, November 26, 2004)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=A7Wpd.41950%24Oc.39165%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
That really does have to be seen to be believed. Those "great number
of times [you] have categorically denied [being]Jewish," are the very
evidence that damns you as a liar and a fake Jew. It is because you
earlier made those very denials of being Jewish, that your later
claims to be Jewish have been proven to be false. Without the earlier
denials there could be no case against you.
And yet here you are trying to claim that the proof of your guilt is
actually the proof of your innocence. That is like an accused bank
robber offering as an "alibi" the fact that at the time the bank was
robbed he was in that very bank, and can prove it because there is
CCTV footage of him walking in carrying a gun only seconds before the
hold-up.
It is very clear to me that, in your angry and frustrated state of
mind over your real name being posted, you simply FORGOT having
previously posted so many denials of being Jewish, or never considered
that those denials would be reproduced here to scupper your new plan
to pose as a Jew.
> > In spite of your ridiculous words about "PV the Jew" being
> > dragged from the cellar by the Gestapo, and then taken to the gas
> > chambers, you have never been a victim of anti-Semitism because you
> > are not Jewish.
>
> But I've seen it.
Oh, you've "seen it"? So that is why you falsely claimed to personally
be a victim of it, is it?
I have seen black people suffer from discrimination but I don't go
around claiming to be black and accusing everyone I don't like of
being from the Ku Klux Klan.
So this is your excuse for falsely claiming to be a Jew, falsely
accusing people of being anti-Semites, Nazis and holocaust deniers,
and comparing your merely being named in this group with real Jews
being dragged from cellars by the Gestapo and sent to gas chambers, is
it? Because you have just "seen" examples of anti-Semitism?
> I've seen it in those who try to paint others as
> anti-Semites because those others support Jewish interests. You
> have never seen me do anything else but support Jewish interests.
You have supported Jewish interests in the same way as Binjamin
Wilkomirski supported Jewish interests. When I was searching for
reports about his attempts to pose as a Jew and anti-Semitism victim,
I had to trawl through masses of neo-Nazi and holocaust revisionist
sites before finding those three more suitable links I posted here.
That indicates the extent to which people like you and Binjamin
Wilkomirski are a godsend to such anti Jewish organisations. Here is a
short extract from one of those pages I linked to:
"Now I know that writing Fragments [Wilkomirski's book] was a
narcissistic act, doing the kind of damage of which a Holocaust
revisionist only dreams. Binjamin Wilkomirski's memoir, in its most
generous description, is simply historical fiction. What kind of
legacy is that for the children?"
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0209/article/020951a.html
That is from a website produced by and for Jews. Look at those words:
" ... doing the kind of damage of which a Holocaust revisionist only
dreams". Imagine how much damage neo-Nazis could do if they got hold
of the evidence of you accusing just about everyone who has ever
disagreed with you about anything whatsoever, of being a Nazi and
anti-Semite, and then deciding to pose as a Jew yourself, and as a
victim of anti-Semitism, screaming about "Gestapo", "gas chambers",
"PV the Jew dragged from the cellar", "flaming torches", for the
purpose of libelling people who have never displayed any
anti-Semitism. The neo-Nazis would have a field day with all that.
You, a supporter of Jewish interests? Nothing could possibly be
further from the truth.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
wrote:
> The reason you won't sue PV is that you have neither the substance,
> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be known,
> the courage)
>
> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
> with LW.
A trifle harsh, Andrew. JPB's far from perfect but he's made Jim squirm
on a number of occasions and I'm all for that. I've no issue with Jim
but it's nice to see him wriggle on the hook every now and again, if
only for the giggle.
Just passing by
From: <Cerberus>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> On 28 Nov 2004 06:37:33 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing
> by) wrote:
>
> snip
>
> >
> >I won't sue you, James, because that would be letting you off too
> >lightly. If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
> >hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
> >anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
> >character with a new and far more devastating site about your attempts
> >to pose as a Jew. Only this time the exposure would not be limited
> >only to users of this newsgroup. I think I could probably persuade
> >some of the webmasters of Jewish themed websites to put up links to a
> >site with a title like "James Noles - Florida's Own Binjamin
> >Wilkomirski". And it wouldn't take long to generate a heavy stream of
> >traffic using various methods involving all the right key words, to
> >ensure wide exposure on the various search engines. Further
> >selectively placed links and messages, for example on geographically
> >relevant message boards, appealing for any extra interesting
> >information, could greatly add to the site's content. And all that is
> >without even having sat down and given any amount of real thought to
> >how effective I could make it.
> >
> >I think it still hasn't dawned upon you that James Noles cannot get
> >away with what A Planet Visitor could get away with. You said recently
> >that now the bell has been rung, it can't be unrung. That's true, but
> >how many more bells are there out there?
> >
> >So you may rest assured that I will not be suing you for your lies. If
> >I ever decide to stop being Mr Nice Guy with you, I won't be looking
> >to the courts for anything.
> >
>
> The reason you won't sue PV is that you have neither the substance,
> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be known,
> the courage)
>
> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
> with LW.
>
> So.....on behalf of PV and my good self, (and I suspect several other
> posters sick to death of your posturing) may I suggest that you go and
> fuck yourself, there's a good chap.
>
> I consider you to be a liar and a complete logical fool, both of which
> I can overlook. It's the pathetic attempt at strong-arm tactics that
> provoke me.
>
> I invite you to sue me and or attempt to apply the same rules of
> intimidation that you so glibly threaten above. In fact, I insist.
>
> Fucking cloth-eared necromantic cock-sucking stalker. Roll your Mum
> over and fuck her in the arse quick, before the dogs do it.
>
> Peon.
>
> Heh.
> Ring my bell JPB, ring my bell.
> --
So the silent cheerleader finally breaks his long silence again. But
again, that same question I asked you again and again and again when
you last momentarily surfaced before hastily scurrying away again like
the pathetic, frightened little rabbit you are: where the hell have
you been until now, SC?
Here is a reminder of that last time you finally, but oh so
temporarily, found the courage to say what you thought:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=90c224133e0be5118b2ccba15a752923%40news.secureusenet.com
That was after sitting there biting your lip for two years - the
period between that and the only other occasion you had ever posted
anything criticising me, which was hidden away in a thread I had
neither contributed to nor even read.
But now let's look at the responses you ran away from after posting
the above:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0405280628.72f21122%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406020611.4969cb5f%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0405281528.257b1d26%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0405300441.123a9a4c%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0405310228.569320a5%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406012319.2e5053b8%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406020508.5ce83883%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406022311.6eea66bd%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406010111.2090618b%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0406031034.2de183b9%40posting.google.com
Just look at that, Cerberus. You ran away, like the frightened rabbit
you are, from post after post after post, in which I responded to that
message you waited two years to post. Again and again I asked you
where you had been. Again and again I asked you why you had spent two
years hiding behind A Planet Visitor, cheering him on but only in
silence, unlike some others here who had sufficient courage of their
convictions to come out and attack me occasionally when they thought I
had gone too far against PV.
I even started a new thread with the title "To Cerberus" just to make
sure you couldn't deny having noticed the challenges I made to you.
Here is that thread:
Look at the list of posters on the left. There were twenty posts in
that thread from three posters: A Planet Visitor, David Haley and me.
But where were you, Cerburus? Why isn't your name there? The thread
was about you, and was created, specifically, as a challenge to you.
The "dignified silence" excuse is not valid because you had already
'thrown down the gauntlet' in that first post I linked to above.
There is only one possible answer: you ran away because you didn't
have the courage to back up your earlier post, so, like the coward you
are, you ran away again and went back to hiding behind PV, letting him
fight your battles for you. And he did so, uncharacteristically
heroically. And in doing so, he put you to shame, Cerburus. Once again
the silent cheerleader was hiding behind A Planet Visitor, just as he
had been doing for the previous two years.
Are you going to do that again now, silent cheerleader? Are you going
to hide behind James Noles as he, inevitably, tries to defend you, in
recognition of your own pathetic inability to back up your own
pretentious tough talking? We shall see.
> P.S I have asked some associates of mine to make some inquires into
> you. Don't be surprised if you see evidence of this. It is apparently
> the season for exposes, and there is no reason that the group should
> not be kept abuzz with some new revelations.
>
> WooF w00f WooF
ROFL!!!
You utterly pathetic, pretentious poseur! You don't have any such
"associates". That is yet another example of your many attempts to
persuade this group that you are something you are not. It is
reminiscent of your "my IT people" remark .......
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3e6d9a39%241_3%40spamkiller.newsgroups.com
.... which you were so deservedly lampooned for:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dv0t6vkl4182jd873v279nd90ru63deugs%404ax.com
You still haven't got it, have you, Cerberus? Nobody is fooled by your
act. Nobody is impressed by your attempts to present yourself as some
wealthy, sophisticated, jet-setting businessman.
I think I will devote a little time to digging out a long list of
examples of your ludicrous attempts to impress this group in the way
that you just tried above with that hilarious reference to your
"associates".
You are, Cerberus, by far the most pretentious person in this group.
Your delusions of sophistication reveal only a sad and inadequate
figure behind the act you put on.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
he_who_spnaks_scum <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote:
> Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> You've 'no issue' with Nazi Noles ?
>
> He's defamed, lied, threatened, abused, cyberstalked and insulted every
> single abolitionist on the group, and you ... have ... no ... issue ?
s/no\ issue/no\ personal\ issue/
The defamation is just _not_on_ and I think I've made myself quite plain
about that.
Abuse and insults, though? Oooh! Muffin! Did someone hurt oo ickle
feewings? You do realise that this is a.a.d-p., yes? Insults and abuse
are de rigeur here, Des, as well you know.
The other charges that you put forward are unsubstantiated at best and,
quite frankly, I have no wish to discuss them further.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:53:23 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
> <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> >A trifle harsh, Andrew. JPB's far from perfect but he's made Jim squirm
> >on a number of occasions and I'm all for that. I've no issue with Jim
> >but it's nice to see him wriggle on the hook every now and again, if
> >only for the giggle.
>
> Agreed Jon. My beef is not with any discussion that he may have with
> PV, but with his intimidatory tactics.
Yes. I should make myself clear on that one right now. That was most
unworthy of JPB who should be satisfied enough that he has given Jim a
right royal pounding.
Just passing by
From: "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <sa...@dodo.com.au>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> In article <pbslq0lgs1e1nvprn...@4ax.com>, Cerberus <>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:53:23 GMT, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
> > <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > >A trifle harsh, Andrew. JPB's far from perfect but he's made Jim squirm
> > >on a number of occasions and I'm all for that. I've no issue with Jim
> > >but it's nice to see him wriggle on the hook every now and again, if
> > >only for the giggle.
> >
> > Agreed Jon. My beef is not with any discussion that he may have with
> > PV, but with his intimidatory tactics.
>
> Yes. I should make myself clear on that one right now. That was most
> unworthy of JPB who should be satisfied enough that he has given Jim a
> right royal pounding.
>
> --
> Mr Q. Z. D.
What was unworthy? Simply speculating about how a website could be put
up and promoted?
If you read what I wrote, I made it clear that I had no plans to put
up any such website. However, now that I know how objectionable
Cerberus the silent cheerleader would find such a website, that would
certainly make it more, rather than less, likely that one would be put
up. In that event, the site could even be dedicated to Cerberus for
providing the final inspiration, without which it would never have
advanced beyond the stage of mere speculation here.
And as for him being "harsh", he isn't capable of that because he is a
fake, a dreamer who writes stuff like that purely for effect and to
perpetuate the false image of himself that he has been trying to
project here for several years. His "associates"? LOL! Walter Mitty,
pure Walter Mitty.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing by) wrote:
> And as for him being "harsh", he isn't capable of that because he is a
> fake, a dreamer who writes stuff like that purely for effect and to
> perpetuate the false image of himself that he has been trying to
> project here for several years. His "associates"? LOL! Walter Mitty,
> pure Walter Mitty.
JPB, you're priceless when you've got the right end of the stick and are
busily applying the wrong end of it to the proverbial noggin of one of
your interlocutors. When you picked up this particular stick, though,
it went "bang" and seems to have shot you in the foot. Character
assassination is unbecoming in one who appears to be able to do so much
better and, for the most part, you've managed to do _considerably_
better.
Jim Noles
baby killer, but he has certainly not made me squirm. The fact is he
squirms because I will not pander to his attempts to change fact.
And in his squirming he has accused me of being a racist, and then
an anti-Semite. In the same breath that he demonstrates his own
anti-Semitism in his USING the victims of the Nazi death camps,
as he slobbers in the same sentence about the _weight loss_ of
that baby killer, and even creates a URL as a shrine to her.
And he certainly has demonstrated he uses threats and intimidation
in his posts. He has frequently claimed that he is going to _expose
me to other groups_, as if that would be a threat enough for me to
stop laughing at his sickness. Just today, he _threatens_ to expose
his own anti-Semitism, by _reporting ME_ to some Jewish groups.
And before, when he attacked me for posting a tribute to MLK, he
somehow felt he could threaten me then, by reporting his own racism
to racist groups.
You may believe that the baby killer somehow miraculously did not
injure that baby, causing his death, but please do not translate that
into trying to make it appear as if I'm squirming. Since anyone not
seeing that JPB is really obsessively in love with a baby killer, should
be squirming.
JN
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/JPB.html
Jim Noles
news:1gnxo1g.ve542ew7z8egN%he_who_spnak...@zeouane.org...
> Just passing by <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
>>
>> > "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21b1da28.
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>> > > Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>> > > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:41 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
>> > >
>> > >> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21
>>
>> Once again your lies are exposed by your own contradictions.
>
> _savage_ hammering of The FuckWit's arse )
>
> Oh.
>
> My.
>
> God.
>
> Lay off him, JPB ... he's no match for you.
Why would I expect you would agree with someone who has so viciously
attacked the Jews, in attempting to USE the victims of the Nazi death
camps, in the most outrageous of methods, to praise the WEIGHT LOSS
of a baby killer? [1] The answer is that I would expect you to agree,
because you harbor some strong dislike for the Jews, yourself. Posing
as a Jew for so many years, and USING that pose to attack Jewish
interests at every opportunity. You are not Jewish, Desmond. You
have been exposed as a liar for so many years. Your entire existence
here in any derogatory comment in respect to the Jewish state of Israel,
or the Jews, or the holocaust, is now proven to be based on nothing
but a lie. You USED the Jews, just as JPB attempted to USE the
victims of the Nazi death camps.
[1] JPB's words as he attempts to claim that I am anti-Semitic, as he
demonstrates in his singular sentence that he is an anti-Semite,
giving not the slightest thought to the physical appearance of the
victims of the Nazi death camps, as he has an orgasm about the
_new look_ of his baby killer love. Or worse, that he DOES think
about the physical appearance of the victims of the Nazi death
camps, and just doesn't care... wishing only to USE them, since
he is so close to that orgasm. His words --
"He calls her "The Great White Whale". He says she is fat. But
PV, the man who has also tried to mock and insult the victims of
the Nazi death camps, has not seen what Louise Woodward looks
like recently."
Followed by a shrine of a URL that JPB created to salivate over
his baby killer --
http://uk.geocities.com/unimpressed901/
But Desmond would see nothing wrong with USING the victims
of the Nazi death camps in a method intended to praise the
physical appearance of a baby killer.
JN
Jim Noles
>
> He's defamed, lied, threatened, abused, cyberstalked and insulted every
> single abolitionist on the group, and you ... have ... no ... issue ?
you possibly see that your words above, constitute your attempt to
defame me? Can you possibly see that your cyber stalking of me got
you removed from a Usenet provider, called ntlworld.com? Can you
possibly see how often you have lied here? The latest exposure of one
of the greatest lies ever perpetrated in AADP. Your claim to being Jewish
for years. While John Rennie who personally knows you, states that
you have been lying all these years. You are not Jewish. For some
time now, I KNEW you could not be so self-loathing that you were actually
Jewish.
JN
Jim Noles
> insults ... so that leaves cyberstalking and threats.
>
> Howsaboutthisthen ..?
>
> url:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=cbb26c253835af7f&seekm=ubLv9.79686%24r7.1593261%40twister.tampabay.rr.com#link1
>
ROTFLMAO. Thank you for my laugh of the day. You consider it cyber
stalking to thank a poster for ensuring your words are retained in google.
Your cyber stalking caused you to lose access to ntlworld.com, I
believe, since I still have not seen a post from you through that provider,
since complaints were lodged about your cyber stalking.
JN
Jim Noles
I am addressing it very directly. Only one of two things can be seen in
Desmond's comment, which was
"Even Auschwitz wouldn't execute a 72-year-old man, Richard ... "
Either he is ACTUALLY stating that Auschwitz wouldn't execute a
72-year-old man, which is obviously a defense for Auschwitz-the
death camp. Or what he does argue, in his excuse for using that
comment, is that he is referring to Texas as Auschwitz, because
Texas has executed about 300 proven murderers. He thus
compares those murderers executed by Texas to those 2.5 million
Jews murderers by the Nazis.
What do YOU think he meant in those words?
>That very familiar pattern
> will indicate to everyone who has seen it from you countless times,
> that you lied and are now desperately trying to cover up your lies
> with more words than most people care to read in the hope that they
> will give you the benefit of the doubt rather than wade through it
> all.
>
You can rage in defense of Desmond all you wish. You also tried to
call me a racist, for posting a tribute to MLK, because you wished to
defend Desmond in his spitting in the face of MLK attack on that
tribute. You have no shame. And it ALL comes because you have
a sickness. An erotomaniac attraction for a baby killer. Perhaps
you are attracted to the notoriety, just as enigmacat, a past poster
here, was attracted to murderers on death row. Who knows what
drives that emotional sickness... but it is quite evident.
> But they no longer do give you the benefit of the doubt because they
> have seen it all before so many, many times.
You need help, JPB. And you imagine you find it by connecting yourself
to Desmond here.
>> > Now that your real name and location are known, one might have thought
>> > that you would be more careful about the lies you tell about people.
>> > Any possible delays and complications involved in suing you for libel
>> > have now been removed.
>> >
>> LOL... Yeah, Desmond is going to sue me for him calling me "Nazi Noles,"
>> and "Nazi Bastard," because I dare to criticize his statement that Texas
>> is Auschwitz. You see, JPB... As Desmond once remarked about those
>> who might wish to know HIS location, that in doing so HE would then
>> know where THEY are, if Desmond tried to sue me, I would then know
>> where HE is.
>>
>> However; there is no doubt in my mind that YOU find Auschwitz to have
>> been no worse than Texas, JPB. So why don't YOU sue me? If you
>> defend Desmond for comparing Texas to Auschwitz, then you must
>> also see Texas as Auschwitz...so go ahead and sue me... because I
>> state that I think YOU find no difference between 300 murderers and
>> 2.5 million innocent Jews.
>
>
> I won't sue you, James, because that would be letting you off too
> lightly.
LOL. Really? Is that the reason? I think the real reason is that you're
a stupid delusional, mentally afflicted abuser of the victims of the Nazi
death camps.
> If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
> hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
> anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
> character with a new and far more devastating site about your attempts
> to pose as a Jew.
Be my guest. Nothing could be worse than you USING the victims
of the Nazi death camps, when in the VERY SAME SENTENCE you
sexually climax at the thought of the weight loss of a baby killer.
But don't forget that Desmond has posed as a Jew for many years
here, simply to attack them, and has now been exposed by someone
who knows him personally to not be Jewish. I never claimed to be
Jewish, in anything other than hyperbole. And in any case, I have
NEVER attacked Jewish interests, so the only thing that might be
argued is that my mention in hyperbole might be seen as having
provided FAVORABLE bias for the Jews. Which I admit to. I am
favorably biased for the Jews, and there is not a single instance
you can show where I am not. So I did not USE the idea of being
Jewish in an attempt to defame Jewish interests in impunity.
Desmond did. As you did, as well, in your defamation of those
victims of the Nazi death camps, USING them in such an obscene
manner to defend a baby killer, as you gloated about HER weight-loss,
in the very same sentence.
> Only this time the exposure would not be limited
> only to users of this newsgroup. I think I could probably persuade
> some of the webmasters of Jewish themed websites to put up links to a
> site with a title like "James Noles - Florida's Own Binjamin
> Wilkomirski".
I wouldn't put it past you... I'm sure you are a regular contributor
to anti-Jewish websites. My words are beyond reproach in every
instance having supported Jewish interests. You would be more
successful in posting my comments to a fundamentalist Islamic
site, with some sort of presumed address and phone number in
your hope that some real harm comes to me. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Islam.html
So there is no doubt in my mind that your mental sickness has
reached the point that you would hope physical harm comes to me.
>And it wouldn't take long to generate a heavy stream of
> traffic using various methods involving all the right key words, to
> ensure wide exposure on the various search engines. Further
> selectively placed links and messages, for example on geographically
> relevant message boards, appealing for any extra interesting
> information, could greatly add to the site's content. And all that is
> without even having sat down and given any amount of real thought to
> how effective I could make it.
As anyone can see from your words... they form a threat... and an
attempt at blackmail to keep me from further exposing your mental
sickness. And I believe any rational person looking at your THREAT
will now see just how deep that mental sickness of yours is. And
I am soooooo scared, JPB... I'll run tell my mommy on you. You
pathetic, lovelorn, anti-Semitic, racist fruitcake.
> I think it still hasn't dawned upon you that James Noles cannot get
> away with what A Planet Visitor could get away with. You said recently
> that now the bell has been rung, it can't be unrung. That's true, but
> how many more bells are there out there?
You would try to ring one that would bring physical harm to me. Your
hate for me, and you love for a baby killer are doomed to consume you,
JPB. It's rather obvious that you words form a physical threat toward
me. And I'm sooooooo scared.
> So you may rest assured that I will not be suing you for your lies. If
> I ever decide to stop being Mr Nice Guy with you, I won't be looking
> to the courts for anything.
Apparently you still believe in USING the Jews, in your own personal
agenda of protecting a baby killer. Don't forget to rave in pride to
those anti-Jewish sites you subscribe to, how you insulted the victims
of the Nazi death camps, by using them when you gloated about how
much _better your baby killer looked_ then they did on the way to the
showers.
Of course you USED that comparison. Whether you were oblivious to
it or not. 1) victims of the Nazi death camps... 2) "What Louise
Woodward looks like recently." SAME SENTENCE!!! It doesn't take
a rocket scientist to recognize that you were comparing them, whether
you gave any thought to how those victims of the Nazi death camps
LOOKED or not. You certainly mentioned them, and in the same
sentence gloated about the _weight loss_ of your baby killer. In the
very same sentence you made mention of the victims of the Nazi
death camps, in an insane attempt to claim that I am an anti-Semite
as you displayed YOUR OWN ANTI-SEMITISM, in using those
victims of the Nazi death camps, to rave about the _weight loss_
of your baby killer.
>> What
>> did not happen, is that the condition of those "victims of the death camps,"
>> the physical appearance of them in their wraith-like, emaciated
>> condition apparently did not register in your mind.
>
> So now you are contradicting yourself in successive SENTENCES.
>
You can go on with your lies as long as you wish. But you DID
USE those victims, in the very same sentence that you had an
orgasm about the weight loss of a baby killer. A more obscene
singular sentence I cannot imagine. When you post to that Jewish
newsgroup about my comments, which have always been favorably
disposed toward Jewish interests, and have always expressed
total condemnation for the holocaust, including that I will NEVER
accept such a monstrous act as LEGAL, be sure to tell them how
YOU used the victims of the Nazi death camps, as you creamed
in your jeans about the weight loss of a baby killer. <sarcasm on>
I'm sure they will all be sympathetic to how you USED those victims
of the Nazi death camps, with you being "polite" enough to those
victims, to separate them from your baby killer with a comma, and
nothing more. <sarcasm off>
>> The fact that you might have no thought about how they looked
>> as you made that suggestion in the very same sentence, is quite
>> as damning as the idea that you DID consider how they looked
>> in the very same sentence.
>
> The only thing that is damning is the only thing this matter is
> concerned with, which is not whether I did or didn't consider "how
> they looked" but the fact that you lied repeatedly for fourteen months
> by claiming that I "compared" the weight losses of LW and the death
> camp victims. The words I wrote prove that to be a false claim and
> your subsequent admissions that you believed I didn't consider "how
> they looked" prove that it was a deliberate false claim - in other
> words, a lie.
Actually either way is totally damning, JPB. If you USED them and
DID NOT think about how they looked as you USED them to try and
paint ME as an anti-Semite, that is every bit as damning as if you
DID think about how they looked as you mentioned them in the
SAME BREATH as that baby killer. But God will be the Judge of
your evil. Lucky for you, I do not have power to do anything other
than condemn you here, for what you are... a hateful monster...
so intent on DEFENDING a baby killer that you would compare
the victims of the Nazi death camps to her, in the very same
sentence, whether or not your mind absorbed what those victims
of the Nazi death camps actually LOOKED LIKE, as you asked the
readers to see what a baby killer now LOOKED LIKE. So when
you post to that Jewish news-group about my comments, be
sure to mention that I CONDEMN YOU... for your evil attempt
to USE those victims of the Nazi death camps. You might ask
them if condemning you for doing so, was an expression of
anti-Semitism on my part.
>> I can't read your mind...
>
> But you claimed to be able to read Neville's mind when you defended
> your lies about what he had written with that memorable line, "The
> quote was in his mind."
>
Yes... That was my opinion. Just as my opinion is that you DID
think about how those victims of the Nazi death camps LOOKED,
but you did not care, when you asked readers to see how a baby
killer looked. But apparently you keep denying that you actually
THOUGHT ABOUT how those victims of the Nazi death camps
looked, and in the most UNCARING USE of those victims I can
imagine, you forged ahead in using them, and asking the reader
to LOOK at how your baby killer LOOKED NOW. I will always
have the opinion that your DID think about how those victims looked...
but just didn't care. Despite your denials. I am simply pointing
out that even in your denials, you apparently admit your DID NOT
think about how those victims of the Nazi death camps _looked_,
as you asked the reader to see how your baby killer _looked_.
You either thought about how they looked, and did not CARE,
or you had an UNCARING feeling toward them, not even thinking
about how they looked. They were only TOOLS for you to USE,
in trying to claim that I am anti-Semitic. In both cases, you did
not CARE how they looked.
>> In either case, there is the idea of COMPARISON, given that nothing
>> other then a small comma separates the two...in your words.
>
>
> The comparison was concerned with insults, not weight loss.
Huh?? Pardon me but you put those victims in between your
use of the word "FAT," referring to your baby killer, and then
asked the reader to look at her _new look_ resulting from a
weight loss. It was nothing BUT about you slobbering over
that baby killer, with your insult to the victims of the Nazi death
camps sandwiched in the middle.
> I compared
> your insults to LW with your insults to the death camp victims. The
> reference to weight loss applied only to LW, not to the death camp
> victims, and therefore there was no comparison relating to weight loss
> anywhere in that post. That is how simple this is and anyone reading
> what I wrote will see that immediately.
>
Hardly, JPB... All your squirming cannot hide the fact that you were
USING the victims of the death camps. I have never insulted the victims
of the Nazi death camps, but you did... in the very comment that you
tried to USE them. Any normal, caring human being would form a
mental image of those victims when mentioning them. It was obscene,
grotesque, sickening, disgusting, monstrous, hideous and unnatural on
your part to offer such a comment. I was thunderstruck the instant I
read your words, instantly recognized how you attempted to USE those
victims. Unbelieving that even you could be so obscene in your delusional
attraction for a baby killer. Do you realize that you were speaking of 6
million innocent human beings, starved beyond description, wraith-like,
emaciated figures, floating across the spectrum of our existence as a
species, dragging their broken bodies on their way to their murder?
Their murders and their murderers standing as a symbol of the most
evil act in history. And you using them in a presumed defense of a
baby killer. As in the same breath... you gloated about the weight loss
of a baby killer. It lacked the slightest sense of compassion or pity
on your part for those victims. It stands as a sickening and festering
monument to your mental affliction.
>> >> > And you knew that but still chose to lie repeatedly by claiming that I
>> >> > "compared the weight loss" of LW and the death camp victims. And
>> >> > because you are very stupid and have a very poor memory, I can prove
>> >> > conclusively that you knew it and were lying rather than having simply
>> >> > misunderstood what you were reading. Here is that conclusive proof.
>> >> >
>> >> > On November 6, 2003 you wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "I'm not the one who gloated about her 'weight loss,' in the same
>> >> > sentence where he spoke of the victims of the holocaust (not thinking
>> >> > about their 'weight loss'!!)... that would be JPB."
>> >> >
>> >> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=prtjqvk6hvr4rpdo0ul54h77ubjd6i68g5%404ax.com
>> >>
>> >> Yes.. that would be YOU... in YOUR post. I considered how
>> >> those "victims of the Nazi death camps" LOOKED. You never
>> >> gave it a thought ...
>
> So, as you admit above, it was you, not me, who compared the weight
> losses. I only compared the insults, so why did you spend fourteen
> months repeatedly lying by accusing me of doing what you and only you
> did?
So your _story_ is now that you didn't THINK about how the victims of
the Nazi death camps LOOKED, as you used them. That's your story,
and you're sticking to it... right? Now I have the opinion that you DID
think about how they looked, but didn't CARE. But if you insist that
you did not care enough about them to actually think about how they
looked, as you USED them... stick with that story, JPB. When you
post it to that Jewish newsgroup. Stick with the story that you never
think about how the victims of the Nazi death camps actually LOOKED.
>> >>
>> >> So your argument is that Cardinal Lustiger is a liar, when he states he
>> >> is Jewish, since he certainly is a Gentile?
>> >
>> > There is no comparison between Cardinal Lustiger and yourself. He was
>> > born Jewish but you were not - it is that simple.
>>
>> My point is that Cardinal Lustiger is both Jewish and Gentile. An idea that
>> has been rejected by a great many European posters here. And one I believe
>> that you reject.
>>
>> > He hasn't lied about
>> > his Jewish background but you have about yours - it is that simple. He
>> > hasn't tried to exploit his genuine suffering to gain sympathy but you
>> > have tried to exploit your imagined and non-existent suffering to gain
>> > sympathy - it is that simple.
>>
>> I am not looking for sympathy, JPB.
>
> Don't be so ridiculous. You crave sympathy like a junkie craves his
> crack, heroin or whatever. You have, many times in the past, succeeded
> in eliciting sympathy from some posters and have then tried to misuse
> their words to fuel and reinforce your hate campaigns against other
> posters.
>
I think your madness has taken away any residual sanity that might
have been in you before you became obsessed with that baby killer.
So we all have opinions. And I think your implication that my mention
in hyperbole of being Jewish, was an attempt to _gain sympathy_, is
because you have the idea that _the Jews are whiners and always
looking for sympathy, just by mentioning that they are Jews_. That
is what you think, isn't it? You think because I made such a comment,
you find it was a search for _sympathy_, and so you feel that anyone
making such a comment... anyone calling themselves Jewish,
are only _whiners, and looking for sympathy_ in your mind. What
a sickness fills you. That's how you SEE the Jews... as _whiners,
looking for sympathy_.
>
>> I am not Jewish. Yet for over
>> two years I have stated on a few occasions that I had Jewish ancestry,
>
> For over two years you vigorously insisted that you were not Jewish.
> Example:
>
And I am not.
> "... how many times must I tell you... I'm not Jewish." (A Planet
> Visitor, Feb. 16, 2004)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nmt0301fbg8nfemtlp2e0cfm17m0p07lub%404ax.com
>
> But then as soon as your handle changed to your real name, you decided
> that a good way of gaining sympathy and increasing the potency of your
> lies about and attacks on other posters would be to pose as being
> Jewish. Example:
>
> "Why do you hate me, euro? Is it because I'm a Jew? And why do you
> hate the Jews? What did we ever do to you?" (James Noles, November 7,
> 2004)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=suFjd.9360%248G4.5690%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
>
That was of course, hyperbole. Since I have been quite open with my
claim that I am not Jewish, and thus any comment such as that, must
certainly be seen in the way it was intended. To accuse euro of hating
ALL JEWS. Which he surely does.
> And that pretence of being Jewish would have continued if your early
> strenuous denials of being Jewish - which one can only presume you had
> completely forgotten about - had not been reposted to prove what a
> liar and fake you are.
>
I never forgot that I had insisted over and over that I am not Jewish,
nor do I claim to be Jewish, while I do have 1/8 Jewish ancestry,
through my maternal great-grandmother, who was a born Jew, but
converted to Catholicism, and never again considered herself to be
Jewish.
> So your next move was to attempt to turn this around and create
> confusion by trying to use those denials of being Jewish you made
> during your PV period, to "prove" that you had never really claimed to
> be a Jew. Example:
>
> "Not a chance. You are simply demonstrating more of your obsession,
> because there is no way that my comments could be seen as SERIOUSLY
> claiming I was Jewish, given the great number of times I have
> categorically denied I am Jewish." (James Noles, November 26, 2004)
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=A7Wpd.41950%24Oc.39165%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
>
Yes... I again categorically deny that I claim to be Jewish.
> That really does have to be seen to be believed. Those "great number
> of times [you] have categorically denied [being]Jewish," are the very
> evidence that damns you as a liar and a fake Jew. It is because you
> earlier made those very denials of being Jewish, that your later
> claims to be Jewish have been proven to be false. Without the earlier
> denials there could be no case against you.
>
> And yet here you are trying to claim that the proof of your guilt is
> actually the proof of your innocence. That is like an accused bank
> robber offering as an "alibi" the fact that at the time the bank was
> robbed he was in that very bank, and can prove it because there is
> CCTV footage of him walking in carrying a gun only seconds before the
> hold-up.
>
> It is very clear to me that, in your angry and frustrated state of
> mind over your real name being posted, you simply FORGOT having
> previously posted so many denials of being Jewish, or never considered
> that those denials would be reproduced here to scupper your new plan
> to pose as a Jew.
>
Rubbish, I never forgot that I had stated over and over that I was not
Jewish. While I have mentioned my Jewish ancestry, long before
you tried to use this in some further insult of yours to Jewish
interests. I have in many instances internally reflected upon my
Jewish ancestry. And left both hints and some outright mentions
of that ancestry here. What is sad... is that I actually felt
self-conscious when doing so... which is symbolic of how the
Jews themselves must feel, given the persecution they have
endured for thousands of years. So with you claiming that I
sought _sympathy_ in claiming I am Jewish (which of course I
never did in any serious way), you imply that this is typically
how _the Jews are always whining and looking for sympathy_.
You see my hyperbole, in that mention, as just another example
in YOUR MIND, of a _whining Jew_. Don't you? Why would
you expect my words were meant to bring me _sympathy_,
unless YOU think that the Jews, in claiming to be Jews... are
_only whining and just looking for sympathy_?
I would thus criticize myself for this self-consciousness on
my part, and my own lack of will in not having been more
forthright, in struggling with this issue while trying to appear
unbiased in my support for Jewish interests. While never in
the slightest considering myself to actually be Jewish, I felt
that it would be seen as a negative in my very strong arguments
in support of the Jews, and Israel, and my frequent criticism
and disgust with Islam. And apparently I was right, as you
have tried to make this an issue of your belief that being a
Jew, is being a _whiner and only looking for sympathy_.
As so many true Jews, who have a more direct ancestry try to
hide it, because of persecution, and even fear that mentioning
it will elicit the same response that you offer... that claiming to be
Jewish, is only _whining, and expecting _sympathy_, I had some
different reasons. I wanted to appear unbiased, in my arguments
which favored the Jews, and attacked comments I saw as anti-Semitic
in nature for a long time. This is part of what I should be ashamed of...
that it took me so long, in dropping hints but trying to avoid the mention
of this Jewish ancestry. And the other reason is that I felt it made
no difference, since I am certainly NOT Jewish, in my personal life,
or can claim that Jewish ancestry makes me Jewish by birth..
which would be an absurd conclusion to draw. But the slow _coming
out_ is clearly in evidence in my various posts. Given there are
so many that drop hints along the way, not specifically asserting
this ancestry, it is impossible to research all those hints I dropped,
which became more direct as time progressed. Sometimes,
leaving a hint, and other times a bit more direct. But follow --
Aug 22 -- 2002
"And I can imagine I have some Jewish blood in me, as my Maternal
roots are from Poland and Russia" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Fej99.260216%24s8.4918204%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
I already was aware of my ancestry but was still trying to appear
unbiased, and unwilling to just come out and say it.
May 1 -- 2003
"I have in fact stated that I have some Jewish descent, in my
maternal grandmother, whose own mother converted
to Catholicism long before my grandmother immigrated to the U.S.
from Poland in her teenage years." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9vu2bvskminj8k5hrim35ak9kp5mvhnobg%404ax.com
May 31 --- 2003
"And I believe under the definitions of the English language I
am Jewish, if one considers Hebrew roots through the maternal
link, since my maternal grandmother's mother was Jewish
through her mother, although either my great grandmother,
or my great-great grandmother having converted to Catholicism
at least 150 years ago." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=eg3idvgueg16f0nrq89f7aj94gju1q2nmg%404ax.com
Jul 16 -- 2003
"if one considers Hebrew roots through the maternal link, since
my maternal grandmother's mother was Jewish through her mother,
although either my great grandmother, or my great-great grandmother
having converted to Catholicism at least 150 years ago." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=abd1fa4f.0307161745.12c53bd8%40posting.google.com
Nov 26 -- 2003
Clearly I am more Jewish than you are... since it is my understanding
that I can trace my Jewish roots to my great-great grandmother,
who, as did Cardinal Lustiger later, converted to Catholicism while still in
Poland in the mid-19th Century " See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=k6uasvgvrb1lp2jkcr0pfpcftm65dnopfc%404ax.com
Apr 27, 2002
And the clear implication of my Jewish ancestry, in remarking on
having visited Krakow, the city where my maternal grandparent
was born, and had her roots, and which is a city rich in Jewish
heritage. While I was still unwilling to mention that ancestry for
the very reason that has now developed. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Y%25Ay8.100492%24nc.15066179%40typhoon.tampabay.rr.com
All of that more than a year ago. And now all of this having now
developed, long after I have mentioned sometimes obliquely and
sometimes more directly that I had Jewish ancestry, as a result
of my most recent post -- 27 Oct 2004
"not that it is of any great consequence since I have never held
to the argument that I am Jewish, but my maternal great-great
Grandmother in Poland, was Jewish..." See -
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=ee61o09f1eofp4369jlb11s0e2plf4aj4i%404ax.com
The fact is that unlike Desmond, who claims to be _Jewish_, simply
by stating it... and everyone takes him at his word, I have often been
reluctant to mention my Jewish ancestry. While Desmond has now
been proven to be a liar in his many assertions that he is Jewish.
Proven a liar by someone who knows him personally. And Desmond
is the one who has USED the claim that he is Jewish, to offer
comments that OPPOSE Jewish interests. Believing he can hide
behind claiming he is Jewish to offer such comments.
First because I felt it would generate the exact response that it has...
given my frequent observations that anti-Semitism is often ignored,
or attempted to hide by using various crafty methods. And second
because most certainly that distant ancestry DOES NOT make me
Jewish, regardless of any implication you might find that I insist
I am Jewish. When I have denied being Jewish... it is because I
am NOT Jewish, by any definition that I can see.
If you wish to presume that I was _seeking sympathy_, go ahead...
it doesn't bother me. But it argues that YOU feel claiming to be
Jewish, is an attempt to claim sympathy, and would show that YOU
feel that _the Jews are whiners and always seeking sympathy_.
But there is nothing of anti-Semitism in any comment I have ever
made, while you insulted the victims of the Nazi death camps...
USING them when you wrote about the weight loss of a baby killer.
>
>
>> > In spite of your ridiculous words about "PV the Jew" being
>> > dragged from the cellar by the Gestapo, and then taken to the gas
>> > chambers, you have never been a victim of anti-Semitism because you
>> > are not Jewish.
>>
>> But I've seen it.
>
> Oh, you've "seen it"? So that is why you falsely claimed to personally
> be a victim of it, is it?
>
Oh... I've seen anti-Semitism. I've seen it in real life, and seen it in
your words here.
> I have seen black people suffer from discrimination but I don't go
> around claiming to be black and accusing everyone I don't like of
> being from the Ku Klux Klan.
>
Given that you helped try to spit in the face of MLK when I offered
a tribute to him... I am sure you are more closely connected to the
KKK in your doctrine, than you freely admit here. As I recall you
even tried to chase me off of this group, for my very vocal opposition
to racism. Claiming that if I was so vocal I should take my comments
to a group about racism, and leave you to your own racism here in
AADP. I don't think you care at all about discrimination. It's a
non-issue to you. You see racists as nothing other than normal
people. As noted, I have NEVER seen you comment on any
aspect of racism, until you attacked ME for my tribute to MLK.
Which you can hardly claim is how you oppose discrimination,
since my comment was offered against discrimination, and you
attacked, me, the tribute and MLK.
> So this is your excuse for falsely claiming to be a Jew, falsely
> accusing people of being anti-Semites, Nazis and holocaust deniers,
> and comparing your merely being named in this group with real Jews
> being dragged from cellars by the Gestapo and sent to gas chambers, is
> it? Because you have just "seen" examples of anti-Semitism?
>
Those such as you, trying to USE those victims of the Nazi death
camps, while slobbering over the _weight loss_ of a baby killer,
are my targets, JPB. A prime example of anti-Semitism on your
part. In addition to your new claim that mentioning being Jewish,
is an attempt to gain _sympathy_, with you feeling that _the Jews
are all whiners and just looking for sympathy_.
>
>> I've seen it in those who try to paint others as
>> anti-Semites because those others support Jewish interests. You
>> have never seen me do anything else but support Jewish interests.
>
> You have supported Jewish interests in the same way as Binjamin
> Wilkomirski supported Jewish interests. When I was searching for
> reports about his attempts to pose as a Jew and anti-Semitism victim,
> I had to trawl through masses of neo-Nazi and holocaust revisionist
> sites before finding those three more suitable links I posted here.
Well, you won't find any anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi comments from me.
They seem to all come from you, and those like you.
> That indicates the extent to which people like you and Binjamin
> Wilkomirski are a godsend to such anti Jewish organisations. Here is a
> short extract from one of those pages I linked to:
>
> "Now I know that writing Fragments [Wilkomirski's book] was a
> narcissistic act, doing the kind of damage of which a Holocaust
> revisionist only dreams. Binjamin Wilkomirski's memoir, in its most
> generous description, is simply historical fiction. What kind of
> legacy is that for the children?"
>
> http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0209/article/020951a.html
>
> That is from a website produced by and for Jews. Look at those words:
> " ... doing the kind of damage of which a Holocaust revisionist only
> dreams". Imagine how much damage neo-Nazis could do if they got hold
> of the evidence of you accusing just about everyone who has ever
> disagreed with you about anything whatsoever, of being a Nazi and
> anti-Semite, and then deciding to pose as a Jew yourself, and as a
> victim of anti-Semitism, screaming about "Gestapo", "gas chambers",
> "PV the Jew dragged from the cellar", "flaming torches", for the
> purpose of libelling people who have never displayed any
> anti-Semitism. The neo-Nazis would have a field day with all that.
>
> You, a supporter of Jewish interests? Nothing could possibly be
> further from the truth.
But you will not find a single word from me that would argue otherwise.
It is simply more of your attempts at "character assassination,"
because you are suffering from a grave mental affliction that causes
you to attempt such "character assassination" on anyone who might
threaten your baby killer. Do you think you are a supporter of Jewish
interests, in using the victims of the Nazi death camps, trying to make
it appear that I am an anti-Semite, in the very same sentence that
you slobber over the _weight loss_ of a baby killer? What an stupendous
insult that was to those victims of the holocaust, and to every
Jewish interest imaginable. Not to mention your latest implication
that _the Jews are whiners and only looking for sympathy_.
JN
Jim Noles
> On 28 Nov 2004 06:37:33 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing
> by) wrote:
>
> snip
>
>>
>>I won't sue you, James, because that would be letting you off too
>>lightly. If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
>>hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
>>anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
>>character with a new and far more devastating site about your attempts
>>to pose as a Jew. Only this time the exposure would not be limited
>>only to users of this newsgroup. I think I could probably persuade
>>some of the webmasters of Jewish themed websites to put up links to a
>>site with a title like "James Noles - Florida's Own Binjamin
>>Wilkomirski". And it wouldn't take long to generate a heavy stream of
>>traffic using various methods involving all the right key words, to
>>ensure wide exposure on the various search engines. Further
>>selectively placed links and messages, for example on geographically
>>relevant message boards, appealing for any extra interesting
>>information, could greatly add to the site's content. And all that is
>>without even having sat down and given any amount of real thought to
>>how effective I could make it.
>>
>>I think it still hasn't dawned upon you that James Noles cannot get
>>away with what A Planet Visitor could get away with. You said recently
>>that now the bell has been rung, it can't be unrung. That's true, but
>>how many more bells are there out there?
>>
>>So you may rest assured that I will not be suing you for your lies. If
>>I ever decide to stop being Mr Nice Guy with you, I won't be looking
>>to the courts for anything.
>>
>
> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be known,
> the courage)
>
> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
> with LW.
>
> posters sick to death of your posturing) may I suggest that you go and
> fuck yourself, there's a good chap.
>
> I consider you to be a liar and a complete logical fool, both of which
> I can overlook. It's the pathetic attempt at strong-arm tactics that
> provoke me.
>
> I invite you to sue me and or attempt to apply the same rules of
> intimidation that you so glibly threaten above. In fact, I insist.
>
> Fucking cloth-eared necromantic cock-sucking stalker. Roll your Mum
> over and fuck her in the arse quick, before the dogs do it.
>
> Peon.
>
> Heh.
> Ring my bell JPB, ring my bell.
> --
>
> you. Don't be surprised if you see evidence of this. It is apparently
> the season for exposes, and there is no reason that the group should
> not be kept abuzz with some new revelations.
>
Imitating Desmond.... *rapturous applause*
JN
> WooF w00f WooF
Just passing by
From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
< mass of unreadable drivel clipped >
As I told you yesterday, I have lost interest in you for a while
(don't worry, it is only for a while), but I was hoping that you would
answer one little question I put to you.
> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21b1da28.04112...@posting.google.com...
> > If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
> > hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
> > anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
> > character
Alas you didn't answer that question. You don't have to answer, of
course, and I only ask out of curiosity, but did you make a complaint
about that web page? One day it was there and the next day it was
gone. I was just curious as to whether you had sent in a complaint.
> You would be more
> successful in posting my comments to a fundamentalist Islamic
> site, with some sort of presumed address and phone number in
> your hope that some real harm comes to me. See --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Islam.html
Hardly. If Osama bin Laden knew about you, he would probably send you
some money to encourage you to keep damaging the image of Jewish
people by posing as one of them.
> So there is no doubt in my mind that your mental sickness has
> reached the point that you would hope physical harm comes to me.
You grossly overestimate your importance to me. Now that your silent
cheerleader has come out of hiding, I don't intend to spend any
further significant time even responding to your posts, let alone
causing physical harm to come to you. You are already held in utter
contempt by the majority here, whereas your silent cheerleader, oddly
enough, isn't. There is no challenge for me with you; nothing further
to achieve.
But I'm sure I will still nevertheless eventually be back exposing
your lies and reminding you of those things that so embarrass you,
particularly your attempts to pose as a Jew. Life wouldn't be the same
without you to expose and ridicule for a few months each year. But for
now, you are on hold.
< another mass of unreadable drivel clipped >
Just passing by
From: <Cerberus>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> On 29 Nov 2004 03:18:17 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing
> by) wrote:
>
>
> (snip of JPB's outrageous attempt to intimidate PV into silence and to
> gain some sort of moral victory, by the selective use of immorality.)
>
>
> >So the silent cheerleader finally breaks his long silence again. But
> >again, that same question I asked you again and again and again when
> >you last momentarily surfaced before hastily scurrying away again like
> >the pathetic, frightened little rabbit you are: where the hell have
> >you been until now, SC?
> >
> >Here is a reminder of that last time you finally, but oh so
> >temporarily, found the courage to say what you thought:
>
> (snip JPB's frantic googling trying to dig up something, anything at
> all that can be burnt to make a smokescreen to try to divert attention
> from the fact that he is a two bit stand over merchant.)
>
So you still haven't managed to dream up an answer to that question
you curiously left in about why you ran away after 'throwing down the
gauntlet' back in May/June. I have given you my thoughts on that,
which are that you did it because you are a pathetic coward who
couldn't face the questions about why you had been hiding behind A
Planet Visitor for the previous two years rather than come out and say
what was on your mind. I believe that you were quite simply not
expecting my response to your post to me to take that form, which came
as quite a shock to you and caused you to abandon your plan for a much
longer series of exchanges. You were expecting perhaps some
run-of-the-mill abuse to counter you own, or maybe that I would take
up a defensive position. Had my response taken either of those forms,
you would have continued the argument that you chose to start, but
what you saw came as such a shock to you that you simply couldn't
carry on and finish what you started.
If you are content for that version of events to remain unchallenged,
then so be it. I take that as a complete vindication of my version of
events which will remain on record, just as the events themselves have
done.
> You don't impress me mate. There is nothing that you can do, say or
> implement that will have any effect upon me whatsoever.
Firstly I am not trying to impress you. Why on Earth would I have any
interest in impressing you? I have nothing but contempt for you, and
can see through your act, remember? Secondly this is not about me
doing or implementing anything to have an effect on you, but vice
versa. You, not I, are the one who made the threat about these (non
existent) "associates". So you, not I, are the one who has something
to prove. If these (non existent) "associates" of yours are able to
fulfil your threats, you will be able to avoid the embarrassment of
being periodically reminded about how you made empty threats that came
to nothing. But if your (non existent) "associates" fail to deliver,
that fact should suffice to demonstrate, even to those still currently
taken in by your act, that you are indeed a poseur and a fake.
> It is now time to recognise and admit that you stepped outside the
> normal rules of engagement when you make the threats that you did.
Not a very good try at trying to switch the focus in relation to
"threats" from you, who has made them, to me, who has not. The only
threats were those you made about what your "associates" were going to
do to me. They were empty threats, of course, because you made them
purely for effect, but threats nonetheless.
> You are out of order and your attempt has failed.
> Say sorry and move on, there's a good little dickhead. Your behavior
> only confirms my allegations against you.
>
> My suggestion of yesterday to fuck yourself, still remains today.
>
> Oh and your soul mate is a baby killer. Is that statement enough to
> get your motivated JPB?
That won't work, either. That is clearly an attempt to divert me from
exposing you for the egocentric fake you are. There is no doubt in my
mind that your knowledge of that case is even shallower than that of
James Noles, and so destroying any attempt by you at debating it would
be easier than falling off a log for me. Replace the word "motivated"
with "diverted" in what you wrote there, and we can see what you
really meant when you wrote that.
No, Cerberus, where you are concerned I have only one area of
interest, which is not discussing the LW case or any other topical
matter, but showing you up for the attention seeking poseur you are.
> Go on......sue me. Please.
And there is another clue about what it is that most bothers you. You
don't fear being sued, not least because there is nothing to sue you
for and there has not been even the slightest suggestion from me, in
any of the posts to/about you I have made in the last day, that I
would want to sue you. So why have you raised that? I know why. It is
a barrier you have erected to try to shield what really does bother
you, behind.
What bothers you, Ceberus, is that you see this image you have
carefully nurtured and cultivated of yourself in danger of being
damaged. That is why, in this post alone, you have tried to divert me
in three different directions - first the one about me withdrawing
threats, even though I have made none, then the references to LW and
now the one about suing - in the hope that I will move away from the
area that bothers you and into areas that don't.
You won't succeed in diverting me, Cerberus, but the very fact that
you have tried to do so further confirms that I have indeed hit a raw
nerve of yours.
JIGSAW1695
>Date: 11/30/2004 8:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <ck8u72-...@zeouane.org>
>
>James ''Nazi Bastard' Noles <na...@eartlink.net> wrote ...
>> "he_who_spnaks_scum" <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
>> news:q9hs72-...@zeouane.org...
>>> Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> In article <3n7r72-...@zeouane.org>, he_who_spnaks_scum
>>>> <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>>>>> Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> > In article <lmflq0lde7oeaid6u...@4ax.com>, Cerberus <>
>>>>> > wrote:
>
>>>>> >> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be
>>>>> >> known, the courage)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
>>>>> >> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
>>>>> >> with LW.
>
>No surprise that he's the only poster here who also believes that convicted
>murderers _not_ sentenced to death, deserve to be murdered in prison.
>
>--
>he_who_spnaks_scum
>==============================
And then Dezi said:
" Please do us all a
favour and blow that shit out of your cranium with a 9mm slug.
....... I'd like him to kill himself, murdering fuckhead, "
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
> "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:satan-B78317....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > In article <lmflq0lde7oeaid6u...@4ax.com>, Cerberus <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The reason you won't sue PV is that you have neither the substance,
> >> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be known,
> >> the courage)
> >>
> >> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
> >> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
> >> with LW.
> >
> > A trifle harsh, Andrew. JPB's far from perfect but he's made Jim squirm
> > on a number of occasions and I'm all for that. I've no issue with Jim
> > but it's nice to see him wriggle on the hook every now and again, if
> > only for the giggle.
> >
> He may have made YOU squirm in admiration for his affection for a proven
> baby killer, but he has certainly not made me squirm.
You got your arse kicked, Jim. No amount of rationalising that is going
to make me change my mind on the issue. It's nothing personal; I just
call them as I see them.
Jim Noles
>>> Mr Q. Z. Diablo <sa...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> In article <lmflq0lde7oeaid6u...@4ax.com>, Cerberus <>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> The reason you won't sue PV is that you have neither the substance,
>>>>> the professional ability or the money JPB. (Or if the truth be known,
>>>>> the courage)
>>>>>
>>>>> Your cretinous attempts at stand over tactics evidenced above
>>>>> demonstrate your obsession in several quarters. Namely with PV and
>>>>> with LW.
>
>>>> A trifle harsh, Andrew. JPB's far from perfect but he's made Jim
>>>> squirm on a number of occasions and I'm all for that. I've no issue
>>>> with Jim but it's nice to see him wriggle on the hook every now and
>>>> again, if only for the giggle.
>
>>> You've 'no issue' with Nazi Noles ?
>>>
>>> He's defamed, lied, threatened, abused, cyberstalked and insulted every
>>> single abolitionist on the group, and you ... have ... no ... issue ?
>
>> ROTFLMAO... You forgot to include that <sarcasm on>, Desmond.
>
> if I were, I am a European and thus am not 'irony-blind'.
What you are is unspeakable. A liar, who has claimed he is Jewish in
order to post anti-Jewish interest comments, and expect his claim to
protect him. Now exposed, after all these years as POSITIVELY a
liar.
>> Can you possibly see that your words above, constitute your attempt to
>> defame me? Can you possibly see that your cyber stalking of me got you
>> removed from a Usenet provider, called ntlworld.com? Can you possibly
>> see how often you have lied here? The latest exposure of one of the
>> greatest lies ever perpetrated in AADP. Your claim to being Jewish for
>> years. While John Rennie who personally knows you, states that you have
>> been lying all these years. You are not Jewish. For some time now, I
>> KNEW you could not be so self-loathing that you were actually Jewish.
>
> Yes, FuckWit ... I am Jewish.
>
No, Desmond... you are not! What you are... is a liar... and a disgusting
embarrassment to the French, the French government, and the
French Ministry of Justice. Your words --
"In fact, I don't even believe in God." See -
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=87g100hjvo.fsf%40tortue.coughlan.fr
So obviously you are not Jewish through any belief in the
Judaic religion. Nor could you possible be practicing that
religion in claiming you are Jewish.
And then deriding the idea that ANYONE could be "born Jewish,"
and offering an insult to anyone who would claim to be a "born
Jew, in your words -- "You've been called a gibbering moron by most of
news:alt.activism.death-penalty, FuckWit, but the above is
sheer stupidity. No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you spagmerchant.
Jesus, do you have to show your stupidity in every post ? -- "
And now, have been certified as not Jewish, by someone who knows
you personally, and is totally unbiased in respect to your claim.
John Rennie, insists that you are not Jewish.
Desmond Coughlan... most certainly having lied all these years in
claiming he is Jewish.
> <thump! ... hammer! ... crash! ... thwack! ... pummel-pummel-pummel ...
> 'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak' (sic) ...'spnak' (sic) ... whump-squeal! ...
> slap... punch ... kick ... 'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak' (sic) ...hammer!
> ...thrash ... thump! ... whump-squeal ... 'spnak' (sic)
> ...pummel-pummel-pummel ... bash! ... beat! ... 'spnak' (sic) ...
> 'spnak'(sic) ...'spnak' (sic) ... >
Well... even that sounds more like a Nazi... than what I see in the
typically more passive and dignified nature of the Jews. You rant
much more like a Nazi... than any Jew. The Jews have a long
history of articulate comments... rather than those that express
a belief in inflicting physical damage on another.
What a disgrace you are to France.
JN
Jim Noles
that AADP has ever witnessed. And you've bought into a large part of
it. Cerberus was simply one who saw through that con game, and
became the new target of JPB. JPB is nothing but an empty but
obsessed windbag, and most certainly has some mental problems,
with a true diagnosis of a pathological derangement over a baby killer.
No one takes such an agenda, the protection of a baby killer, across
about 30 different newsgroups. No one can expect to successfully
argue that the entire state of Massachusetts was _out to get_ LW,
in a vast conspiracy spanning across the media, the prosecution,
respected medical authorities, the police, and the entire judicial system.
No one lies so consistently to support his arguments. No one USES
the victims of the Nazi death camps to praise the _weight loss_ of
that baby killer, and then claim that I'm an anti-Semite. And that
I'm a racist because I posted a tribute to MLK. No one in their right
mind uses the threats that JPB believes make him successful.
It is not the first time he has made THREATS... Not just in his current
psychotic pattern, but as far back as I can recall he threatened
to _expose_ me to other newsgroups. While he USED the victims of the
Nazi death camps, in the very same sentence that he praised the
_weight loss_ of that baby killer, who he is obsessed with. As when
he said he had software, which would identify me as posting previously
under a handle other than PV, which would _prove I was a racist_.
He claimed I never concerned myself with racism before Desmond
spit in the face of MLK, and that tribute. And when I proved him wrong,
he ignored it. He claimed that I had tried to demonize Desmond, when
in fact, Desmond tried to demonize me for my posting that tribute.
He is a liar.
And another post offering a THREAT to me. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0303261258.66404bba%40posting.google.com
His words -- "Initially these posts will concentrate only on comparing
those postings by "A Planet Visitor" that have appeared in this newsgroup,
but in the future they will move on to entirely different and even more
revealing areas that will also cover other newsgroups and which
will rely on a method of research which I briefly mentioned in a post
to PV yesterday."
And recall that he demanded I take my anti-Racist comments out of AADP.
And confine them to newsgroups used by the KKK or neo-Nazis. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0303040404.6ec39dbc%40posting.google.com
And you now see that he again believes he can threaten me, and then
moves on to threaten Cerberus, because he saw through JPB. JPB's
entire existence here is predicated upon the lie... and the threat...
and the claims of a _conspiracy_ against his obsession. That you
cannot see through him, is quite unlike you. I can only presume it
is because you hope desperately to support the belief that the U.S.
Justice system itself, is flawed, thus lending support to your opposition
to the DP. But that baby killer is guilty as sin. You picked a very
bad example to argue a flawed U.S. Justice System. No one other
than her, could have possibly caused the trauma that led to that baby's
death. NO ONE. Which is why JPB has to resort to the lie, to
the argument of a _conspiracy by everyone_, and to threats.
JN
BTW - You asked about Desmond's boss, in respect to what he
knows and permits about Desmond's comments. I did not have
the post immediately on hand, but now, see --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Z2Kpd.37132%24Oc.23193%40tornado.tampabay.rr.com
Desmond's words -- "My employer is well aware of my posts to
news:alt.activism.death-penalty, Shit-For-Brains." And then he
comments -- "Civil servants in the Ministry of Justice are required to
exercise discretion in their professional and private lives."
Sorry if I do not see discretion in any of Desmond's comments.
As he posts in that very same comment of his -- "Shit-For-Brains ...
why haven't you done us all a favour, and blown your brains
over the wall ?" Go on... tell me he's just engaged in hyperbole.
Jim Noles
> No surprise that he's the only poster here who also believes that convicted
> murderers _not_ sentenced to death, deserve to be murdered in prison.
>
Of course he is a liar, since I never did any such thing. And his friend,
pete, is the only one who ever believed that convicted murderers not
sentence to death, deserve to be murdered in prison, as long as those
that murder them are not sent to the DP.
But Desmond is well recognized as a liar here. I have proven over and
over that he is. And both John Rennie, and Mark (St. George) have
both confirmed he is a liar. And THEY are abolitionists. What a
terrible embarrassment you are to the French, Desmond. When will
you ever learn to post responsibly? Given that you call ME a Nazi,
because I oppose your insistence that the Nazis are all legally
innocent of committing any crime in killing Jews. I wonder what
kind of "logic" you used to come up with that conclusion? Or is
it similar to when you called me a racist, as you spit in the face
of MLK at my tribute to him on MLK Day, 2003? See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=fsWW9.113395%24Sa3.2633235%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
Remember how you claimed I had "demonised" you in the words
in that post? You must have seen yourself in my words, if you
claim they were meant to "demonise" you. So what particular
sentence was in that tribute, that you found was meant to
"demonise" you?
JN
Jim Noles
> Philip 'Racial Purity' Bruzzichesi wrote :
>>>From: he_who_spnaks_scum he_who_sp...@zeouane.org
>>>Poor Nazi Noles finds is 'amusing' that he once publicly advocated
>>>murder. No surprise that he's the only poster here who also believes
>>>that convicted murderers _not_ sentenced to death, deserve to be murdered
>>>in prison.
>
>> of your cranium with a 9mm slug.
>>
>> ....... I'd like him to kill himself, murdering fuckhead, "
>
> you're another thick cunt like Nazi Noles who believes that suicide is
> 'murder of self' ... ROFLMAO !!!
>
Not only me, Desmond. But an entity far more qualified in the law that you
will ever be. See --
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s197.htm
The Law Library Lexicon of legal definitions --
" SUICIDE - The act of malicious self-murder; felo de se. "
Back to the classroom with you, Desmond. You are demanding that
someone commit murder.
JN
j.rennie1
snip
> There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
> victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
> you wrongly accuse him of writing.
Do you not consider it an insult to the Holocaust victims
to state that their deaths were legal?
Just passing by
From: "he_who_spnaks_scum" <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> j.rennie1 <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
>
> >> There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
> >> victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
> >> you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>
> > Do you not consider it an insult to the Holocaust victims to state that
> > their deaths were legal?
>
> Only if it were also argued that their deaths were _moral_, and I have not
> made that argument.
>
> --
> he_who_spnaks_scum
>
That is almost exactly what I had planned to write in reply to John's
question.
Having read some, though not all, of that argument, it seems to me
that an entirely innocent comment was taken away from its original and
intended meaning and has since been grossly misrepresented.
Now one obviously expects James Noles to do that. If someone mentions
that they intend to grow a moustache, James Noles will reply with: "Is
that so you can look like your hero, Adolf Hitler?" Then, within a
matter of weeks, or maybe even days, James Noles will be telling
people that that poster "has admitted" that Hitler is his hero. Within
another two weeks, James Noles will have developed that further and
will be claiming that "He admits that not only is Hitler his hero, but
he even grew a moustache just so he could look like him." He will then
add "See -" followed by a URL which will link to the original post in
which the poster merely mentioned growing a moustache. James Noles
will then add that episode to all the others of which he claims to
"always give the link to the EXACT WORDS".
Don't get like James Noles, John. You are better than that.
j.rennie1
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "he_who_spnaks_scum" <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
>
>
>> j.rennie1 <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
>>
>> >> There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
>> >> victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
>> >> you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>>
>> > Do you not consider it an insult to the Holocaust victims to state that
>> > their deaths were legal?
>>
>> Only if it were also argued that their deaths were _moral_, and I have
>> not
>> made that argument.
>>
>> --
>> he_who_spnaks_scum
>>
>
>
> That is almost exactly what I had planned to write in reply to John's
> question.
>
> Having read some, though not all, of that argument, it seems to me
> that an entirely innocent comment was taken away from its original and
> intended meaning and has since been grossly misrepresented.
This innocent' comment conveys so much, JPB. It makes plain
that under some strange judicial system, never defined, Jews are
guilty of the crime of being born Jewish and that their executioners
are also innocent. I leave the question of morality or immorality
to those who believe in such subjective notions. It also very
clear that anyone who makes such a suggestion is in no way
Jewish as Desmond is not and as he made plain to me that he
is not.
j.rennie1
"jewish_and_proud_of_it" <jew...@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:dd3182-...@zeouane.org...
> he_who_spnaks_scum <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>> j.rennie1 <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>> This innocent' comment conveys so much, JPB. It makes plain that under
>>> some strange judicial system, never defined, Jews are guilty of the
>>> crime of being born Jewish and that their executioners are also
>>> innocent. I leave the question of morality or immorality to those who
>>> believe in such subjective notions. It also very clear that anyone
>>> who makes such a suggestion is in no way Jewish as Desmond is not and as
>>> he made plain to me that he is not.
>
>> in which I stated that I was not Jewish, John.
We both laughed together over your Jewishness when we met.
You remember that occasion as well as me. I don't expect you
to admit what you cannot afford to admit. However I an not
accustomed to lying. You are as St George so memorably
proved all those years ago.
>
> You see, I have no recollection of ever having told you such a thing.
> Indeed, being Jewish and proud of it (albeit not 'practicing'), there
> would
> be no reason for me to say that.
>
> The second issue is that even if I were _not_ Jewish, and even if I _did_
> tell you such a thing, you would not have the right to divulge that
> information.
There is a big difference between posting Nazi Noles's
> address, which is publicly available and the posting of which constitutes
> a
> just, noble and lawful punishment for his defamation of innocent Light
> Dwellers, and posting _private_ information communicated either in person
> or via e-mail.
If it's not true I haven't divulged anything I have just lied.
You tell us, Desmond. Have I lied or have I divulged?
>
> You will note that irrespective of the 'intensity' of any dispute that I
> might have had with any other poster here on the group, whether Light
> Dweller, whether retentionist, whether deathie cocksucker scum, I have
> never revealed private information. That being said, however, I am
> genuinely curious as to when I am supposed to have denied my religion, and
> thus I'd be grateful if you'd tell us all when I am supposed to have told
> you that I'm 'not Jewish'.
>
> Strangely enough, I have seen little condemnation of you from the other
> posters on news:alt.activism.death-penalty.
Probably because they hold you in the same contempt
as I do myself.
It is similar to when you
> engaged in blackmail of me a few years ago, because I used the word
> 'spastic'. You really are showing your true colours in engaging in such
> tactics, and indeed à réflexion, your affection for The FuckWit is not so
> inexplicable to me anymore ...
>
> --
> he_who_spnaks_scum
I shall not divulge the contents of your various e-mails to me
over a period that caused me to stop communicating with
you. However, I do feel that your recent attacks on Jim
with regard to his Jewishness on non-Jewishness did allow
me to expose you for the liar and hypocrite that you are.
Just passing by
From: <Cerberus>
Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
> On 30 Nov 2004 06:05:47 -0800, unimpre...@yahoo.com (Just passing
> by) wrote:
>
> Twaddle snipped
>
> >> It is now time to recognise and admit that you stepped outside the
> >> normal rules of engagement when you make the threats that you did.
> >
> >Not a very good try at trying to switch the focus in relation to
> >"threats" from you, who has made them, to me, who has not.
>
> Are you about to confirm my hypotheses about you and your lies?
>
> You threatened to sool your rabid Jew webmasters on to PV, did you
> not?
>
> Yes of course you did JPB.......hence my intervention.
>
> All else is more smokescreen.
I don't intend to devote much time to this because there is nothing
that requires defending from me, so I will simply point to two
sentences from those three paragraphs in question to illustrate that
you are confusing speculation with threats.
"If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most hurt, I
would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know anything about
that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor character with a
new and far more devastating site about your attempts to pose as a
Jew."
The key words there are the first three, which indicate speculation,
not threat.
"If I ever decide to stop being Mr Nice Guy with you, I won't be
looking to the courts for anything."
The key words there are the first four.
So compare that with your very real, albeit always doomed to failure,
attempt at making a threat about your "associates". Your accusation is
baseless and you are the very last person who should be making it.
One other point regarding your reference to "rabid Jew webmasters".
That word "rabid" was yours, not mine. It didn't appear anywhere in
anything I wrote.
>
> >The only threats were those you made about what your "associates" were going to do to me.
> >They were empty threats, of course, because you made them purely for effect.
>
> Yes, you are quite right when you say that the comment was made purely
> for effect. On reflection, foolish of me and a waste of my time. Allow
> me to withdraw my statement and any suggestion that any associates of
> mine are going to make any enquiries in your good self. Your reaction
> has been err...... interesting, to say the least.
>
I will deal with that in the "Cerby the poseur" thread in a longer
post than this one.
> >You won't succeed in diverting me, Cerberus, but the very fact that
> >you have tried to do so further confirms that I have indeed hit a raw
> >nerve of yours.
>
> You make several references to my "raw nerve" Are you a dentist by any
> chance? You seem <c> anal retentive enough.
Save your light-hearted banter for those who wish to exchange it with
you. My opinion of you precludes returning comments of any such
jocular variety.
Jim Noles
>
>>> From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>>>> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
>
>>>> > There is only one person around here who has insulted the Holocaust
>>>> > victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
>>>> > you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>
>>>> Auschwitz, because Texas has executed around 300 proven murderers in
>>>> more than 25 years, and Auschwitz murdered 2.5 million Jews in a few
>>>> short years. He sees no difference between the two lives.
>
>>> You are lying and now trying to change your lies around.
>
>> No, sport. I am not lying..
>
> lie about a phrase that you posted, which was in itself a lie.
>
You have never denied that you compared Texas to the SAME as
Auschwitz. That you cannot see what that argues, is simply more
of your attempts to dismiss the true evil in the holocaust, and
your attempt to compare the lawful execution of about 300 proven
murderers, given a trial, and a decade of due process, with the
summary murder of 2.5 million innocent human beings. Simply
because they were Jews... and it is only murderers that you actually
believe are _illegally_ executed. You haven't the slightest problem
with DEMANDING that the Nazis are all legally innocent of killing
a single Jew in WW II. And that the Jews were ALL legally killed.
>> His words were "Even Auschwitz wouldn't
>> execute a 72-year-old man, Richard ... " See --
>> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=CW4Kb.114492%24Dt6.3334305%40twister.tampabay.rr.com
>
> You're getting mixed up again, Nazi Noles. The above URL points to one of
> your posts.
>
Those are YOUR words, Desmond. Please don't try to lie and claim they
were not. I suppose you would call Donna a liar, for quoting your words
exactly as they exist. See --
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/787a838a5ad6894a
You simply cannot hide your past feelings, by lying and claiming you
never expressed them.
Of course giganews keeps your posts.. and your comment still remains there --
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From: "He_Who_Spnaks_Scum" <fucko...@zeouane.org>
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Subject: Re: DP deterrence in Texas and other states.
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Richard J <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
{ snip }
>> Sure, if I am convicted of murder, I would like to wait 20 years before
>> being executed. I would then by 92 and fall into the category of the
>> "to be executed". Naturally, if I am still around then, I can also
>> count on the humanity of man not to carry out the execution.
> Don't get convicted in Texas, Earl.
Even Auschwitz wouldn't execute a 72-year-old man, Richard ...
--
He Who 'Spnaks' (sic) Scum
http://www.zeouane.org/
http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/
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>> And as an _excuse_ for that comment, he has insisted that it is meant to
>> compare Auschwitz to being no different than Texas. So either his words
>> are accepted as meaning that, and my comment stands, or he ACTUALLY
>> BELIEVES that "Auschwitz wouldn't execute a 72-year-old man..."
>
>>> There is no post in which Desmond has ever said that the Auschwitz
>>> victims were "no better than around 300 proven murderers" which was
>>> exactly what you accused him of saying. Show a link to such a post or
>>> admit your lie. That is one of many holocaust related lies of yours that
>>> is going to come back to haunt you soon.
>
>> See above. He claims that Texas IS Auschwitz.
>
> ROFL !!!
>
> The FuckWit trips himself up again ... acknowledging that I was referring
> to Texas !!! Just as when he tripped himself up by admitting that I wasn't
> using the term 'ragheads' as my _own_ word, but as representative of him
I've never used that slur, Desmond. As usual, your methods are nothing
but lies. And I see you acknowledge that you see no difference between
Auschwitz and Texas. Verifying that you find the killing of 2.5 million
innocent human beings in Auschwitz, no different from around 300 proven
murderers in Texas. What an insult to those victims. But quite in keeping
with your various references that demonstrate such an uncaring attitude
toward the victims of the holocaust. After all - you have argued forcefully that
the Nazis are all legally innocent of committing any crime in killing the
Jews in WW II. Either you WERE comparing those 2.5 million victims
of Auschwitz to those around 300 proven murderers, or you were
actually claiming that "Even Auschwitz wouldn't execute a 72-year-old
man.." Your choice. Since those are your words.
JN
Jim Noles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about PV aka Noles?
>
>
> < mass of unreadable drivel clipped >
>
>
> As I told you yesterday, I have lost interest in you for a while
> (don't worry, it is only for a while), but I was hoping that you would
> answer one little question I put to you.
>
>> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:21b1da28.04112...@posting.google.com...
>
>> > If I wanted to really hit you hard where I know it would most
>> > hurt, I would simply replace that recently removed (Do you know
>> > anything about that?) web page I put up about your Planet Visitor
>> > character
>
>
> Alas you didn't answer that question. You don't have to answer, of
> course, and I only ask out of curiosity, but did you make a complaint
> about that web page? One day it was there and the next day it was
> gone. I was just curious as to whether you had sent in a complaint.
Are you talking to me?? Since the only web page I know that you
put up, was a shrine to your baby killer. And it appears to still be
there. See --
http://uk.geocities.com/unimpressed901/
>> You would be more
>> successful in posting my comments to a fundamentalist Islamic
>> site, with some sort of presumed address and phone number in
>> your hope that some real harm comes to me. See --
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Islam.html
>
> Hardly. If Osama bin Laden knew about you, he would probably send you
> some money to encourage you to keep damaging the image of Jewish
> people by posing as one of them.
You're the only one who insulted the victims of the Nazi death camps,
in using them when you were salivating about the weight-loss of your
baby killer. bin Laden would be highly appreciative of your insult
to those victims. So be sure to mention how you insulted those
victims when you _report_ me to bin Laden.
>> So there is no doubt in my mind that your mental sickness has
>> reached the point that you would hope physical harm comes to me.
>
> You grossly overestimate your importance to me.
Hardly... I am well aware of the intense hate you have for me. I am
probably the most consuming part of your entire existence in Usenet
at this moment. I mean between the time you are changing the
candles and genuflecting before the shrine you have created to that
baby killer. Tell me... do you have any soft-porn pictures of her?
Could you put them up in one of those _famous baby killer_
newsgroups?
> Now that your silent
> cheerleader has come out of hiding, I don't intend to spend any
> further significant time even responding to your posts, let alone
> causing physical harm to come to you.
You really think I believe that? Come on, JPB... You know that
in all of Usenet... I'm your favorite target to threaten. Who else in
all of Usenet, has so shattered the image of that fat, sloppy,
baby killer? See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/JPB.html
>You are already held in utter
> contempt by the majority here,
You mean those "abolitionists"? Ho ho ho... As if anything certain
jackbooted members of that group might say would bother me.
Specifically, Desmond (who is a disgrace to France and an
embarrassment to the French government), euro (who is a disgrace
to our species), pete (who claims murderers deserve to be murdered),
and a few others. I can count on one hand the number of abolitionists
here that I have even the slightest respect for. And you are among
the most disgraceful, in your methods... using lies, claims of
_conspiracy_ by the entire state of Massachusetts, and threats
to harm anyone who might _pick on_ your baby killer. And now
attacking anyone who might threaten your obsession. And
even implying that John Rennie used a _Nazi method_ in stating
that Desmond was not Jewish. Insisting that Mr. Rennie relied
on _how Desmond LOOKED_, to dismiss the possibility that
Desmond is Jewish. Which is exactly the Nazi method attempted
to identify the Jews.
> whereas your silent cheerleader, oddly
> enough, isn't. There is no challenge for me with you; nothing further
> to achieve.
>
> But I'm sure I will still nevertheless eventually be back exposing
> your lies and reminding you of those things that so embarrass you,
> particularly your attempts to pose as a Jew. Life wouldn't be the same
> without you to expose and ridicule for a few months each year. But for
> now, you are on hold.
>
You should concern yourself with Desmond, who continues to pose
as a Jew, in order to insult each and every Jewish interest. While
I'm sure that I'll be here waiting to expose you as a racist, for trying
to insult MLK in the tribute I offered, and as an anti-Semite in your
attempt to USE the victims of the Nazi death camps, in the same
breath that you had an orgasm over the _weight loss_ of your baby
killer. I think your days are numbered here. I think many now see
you as the kook that I always knew you to be. Even if they want to
believe that the baby killed by your baby killer was actually struck
down by an _act of God_, they now see YOU as a fanatic kook.
> < another mass of unreadable drivel clipped >
JN
Just passing by
Don't lie; you are perfectly well aware of the page I put up about
your Planet Visitor character - the one with the picture of "you" at
the top. I have linked to it numerous times here, including quite
recently in this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0410280145.79c70638%40posting.google.com
However, I will presume that the page was removed simply because it
wasn't getting enough hits, which isn't surprising as it was only ever
here that it was advertised. I still have both the html and image file
so I could have it back up on a different server in about two minutes
if I wanted to, but I won't bother as it is now out of date in view of
recent developments. There is now so much more I could add that it
would take more like two weeks than two minutes to put together.
>
> >> You would be more
> >> successful in posting my comments to a fundamentalist Islamic
> >> site, with some sort of presumed address and phone number in
> >> your hope that some real harm comes to me. See --
> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/Islam.html
> >
> > Hardly. If Osama bin Laden knew about you, he would probably send you
> > some money to encourage you to keep damaging the image of Jewish
> > people by posing as one of them.
>
> You're the only one who insulted the victims of the Nazi death camps,
> in using them when you were salivating about the weight-loss of your
> baby killer. bin Laden would be highly appreciative of your insult
> to those victims. So be sure to mention how you insulted those
> victims when you _report_ me to bin Laden.
>
> >> So there is no doubt in my mind that your mental sickness has
> >> reached the point that you would hope physical harm comes to me.
> >
> > You grossly overestimate your importance to me.
>
> Hardly... I am well aware of the intense hate you have for me. I am
> probably the most consuming part of your entire existence in Usenet
> at this moment.
"At this moment" and for several days, I have paid you very little
attention. Prior to that it would be true to say that I had posted
more to/about you than to/about anyone else for a period of a few
weeks but that was after posting nothing to/about you for several
months. My concentration on exposing and ridiculing you comes in short
bursts because that is all it takes to leave you reeling. Then I
disappear for several months to give you time to convalesce
and lick your wounds, thus demonstrating my compassionate nature. That
is the pattern that has been consistently followed for the last few
years as the records show.
Compare that to your admitted obsession with Desmond. You simply can't
tear yourself away from him for a minute and yet in the four years,
eight months you have been trying so desperately and so staggeringly
unsuccessfully to take him on, you have yet to lay a glove on him.
That four year "battle" of yours must surely represent the single
biggest failure any Usenet troll has ever suffered.
He always was in a different league to you. Even at the beginning,
back in April of 2000, when you were just about capable of
occasionally putting together a half decent and half readable post,
you were no match for him. But now, well over four years later, those
daily batterings he has administered to you have taken their toll so
badly that you are no match for anyone else, either.
You should have stayed in that Vietnam group, James. No, better still,
you should have stayed in Vietnam.
> >You are already held in utter
> > contempt by the majority here,
>
> You mean those "abolitionists"? Ho ho ho...
It isn't just abolitionists, as you well know. There are also
retentionists who feel the same way about you. For an example of that,
see this post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20041015093744.25434.00002228%40mb-m04.aol.com
I think that post sums up your four years here pretty well.
Jim Noles
LOL... You are a loony-tune. I would have no capacity to remove any
web page that you created. The freewebpage might only provide a
limited time to put up your offering. Nothing you might say could
possibly bother me, JPB. Since you are a recognized lunatic.
I do not believe I even looked at that page, much less had it removed.
>
> However, I will presume that the page was removed simply because it
> wasn't getting enough hits, which isn't surprising as it was only ever
> here that it was advertised. I still have both the html and image file
> so I could have it back up on a different server in about two minutes
> if I wanted to, but I won't bother as it is now out of date in view of
> recent developments. There is now so much more I could add that it
> would take more like two weeks than two minutes to put together.
>
Do whatever your little threating mind wants, JPB. Because that's
all you are... threats, lies, demonstrations of your own racism and
anti-Semitism in trying to paint others with what you are, and those
vile accusations you offer that everyone is _in on the conspiracy_
against your baby killer.
LOL.... You're pathetic when it is obvious that you are drooling in hate
and rage for me.
> Compare that to your admitted obsession with Desmond. You simply can't
> tear yourself away from him for a minute and yet in the four years,
> eight months you have been trying so desperately and so staggeringly
> unsuccessfully to take him on, you have yet to lay a glove on him.
> That four year "battle" of yours must surely represent the single
> biggest failure any Usenet troll has ever suffered.
>
I think you'll find that Desmond is much more obsessed with denying
his own very real destructive nature, and focusing his rage on me.
When was the last time I offered an obscenity toward Desmond? While
his rage is quite obvious.
> He always was in a different league to you. Even at the beginning,
> back in April of 2000, when you were just about capable of
> occasionally putting together a half decent and half readable post,
> you were no match for him. But now, well over four years later, those
> daily batterings he has administered to you have taken their toll so
> badly that you are no match for anyone else, either.
>
Oh, my... still defending Desmond.... after he has been proven a liar,
and not Jewish by someone who knows him personally. And then you
had the audacity to claim that John Rennie claimed that Desmond was
not Jewish, because John Rennie did not think that Desmond LOOKED
Jewish. What a disgusting insult to John Rennie. Claiming that he
USES a VISUAL IMAGE of what he thinks a _Jew looks like_, to
decide that Desmond is not Jewish. You just about called John Rennie
a Nazi... claiming he was using the Nazi method to _identify those who
are and are not Jewish_. And then hoping you could _put him straight_
by you pointing to Beckham. I think with Desmond having friends like
you... he doesn't even need any perceived enemies to destroy his image
here.
> You should have stayed in that Vietnam group, James. No, better still,
> you should have stayed in Vietnam.
Pathetic... You should have stayed in
alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise
Maybe you could have Scottie (Mark Stapley) _beam you up_.
>> >You are already held in utter
>> > contempt by the majority here,
>>
>> You mean those "abolitionists"? Ho ho ho...
>
> It isn't just abolitionists, as you well know. There are also
> retentionists who feel the same way about you. For an example of that,
> see this post:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20041015093744.25434.00002228%40mb-m04.aol.com
>
> I think that post sums up your four years here pretty well.
ROTFLMAO... That particular post was from Don Kool. I
do not consider any idea of being held in contempt for my
views regarding retention from Don Kool to have any meaning.
Do you find meaning in his posting? Apparently you do...
since I notice you jumped on the _Don Kool bandwagon_
simply because of your hate for me. In that very
thread, congratulating Don Kool. Imagine that... YOU
congratulating Don Kool, simply to attack me... See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0410151017.6958eec6%40posting.google.com
And if that is not Don Kool.. then look at the total production from
that handle --
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:Lem1motlow&hl=en&lr=&filter=0
And that is the person who you congratulated. ROTFLMAO.
JN
Jim Noles
> he_who_spnaks_scum <he_who_sp...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>> j.rennie1 <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>> some strange judicial system, never defined, Jews are guilty of the
>>> crime of being born Jewish and that their executioners are also
>>> innocent. I leave the question of morality or immorality to those who
>>> believe in such subjective notions. It also very clear that anyone
>>> who makes such a suggestion is in no way Jewish as Desmond is not and as
>>> he made plain to me that he is not.
>
>> in which I stated that I was not Jewish, John.
>
> Indeed, being Jewish and proud of it (albeit not 'practicing'), there would
> be no reason for me to say that.
>
> The second issue is that even if I were _not_ Jewish, and even if I _did_
> tell you such a thing, you would not have the right to divulge that
> information.
There it is... the big denial... the hiding behind the argument that
having told John he is not Jewish, John is _honor bound_ to
perpetuate the lie told here by Desmond. To permit Desmond
to continue to lie and claim he is. Demanding that John's _lips
are sealed_ in respect to that lie. How typical of Desmond's
methods of insisting that lies are permitted, but exposing
those lies is forbidden in Usenet.
<some rage against John having exposed him as not being Jewish
clipped>
> Strangely enough, I have seen little condemnation of you from the other
> posters on news:alt.activism.death-penalty. It is similar to when you
> engaged in blackmail of me a few years ago, because I used the word
> 'spastic'.
Oh... yes... when confronted with the truth... Desmond calls that
_blackmail_. I would guess that what you call _blackmail_ is if
John were to reveal the truth about you. This just keeps getting
better and better. I don't think John will be returning to your
flock any time soon, Desmond.
> You really are showing your true colours in engaging in such
> tactics, and indeed à réflexion, your affection for The FuckWit is not so
> inexplicable to me anymore ...
ROTFLMAO... Yes... it just keeps getting better and better. John
was in no way displaying any affection for ME, Desmond. Hold
that thought... because John does not have the slightest affection
for ME, and you know it. He was expressing his disgust at YOU...
for your attempts to USE the lie that you are Jewish, so you
might attack Jewish interests, and thus claim that there is no
bias attached to your attacks on Jewish interests, and your
claims that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing even a
single Jew in WW II.
And I believe that the person who also showed his _true colours_
was your friend and protector, JPB... who insisted that John
decided you were not Jewish... because you did not _LOOK
Jewish_ to him. Claiming John used a _Nazi method_ in
determining that you _didn't LOOK sufficiently Jewish_ to
John. What an insult to John! Claiming that John thinks all
Jews must have some certain distinctive physical features
about them, or else John decides that they are _not Jewish_.
With friends like JPB, who thinks others think as he thinks...
you don't even need any enemies.
But I imagine that it's about time for euro to jump to the attack
on John... and insist that you are a "born Jew."
JN
Jim Noles
Isn't that what we all do? But you are quite blind, if you cannot see
that JPB is suffering from some mental disorder, in some obsessive
stalking in two central features. He has a love stalking attraction, such
as that of a celebrity stalker. And of course, he stalks anyone who
he feels represents a threat to his obsessive affection, using various
threats of his own, limited of course by his inability to physically act
out on either the love stalking or the protective stalking psychotic
behavior patterns he exhibits. I recognized that behavior pattern
quite some time ago, while still anonymous. On Sep 22, 2003, in
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=5qasmv4k3k5bunvtfmn3nf1eca711afvg2%404ax.com
When I commented to him.. that if face to face with him -- "And if we
were to hold THIS dialog in real life... I believe I would DISTANCE
myself PHYSICALLY from you... post haste... with a smile upon
my departure, and a hope that you presume you have won. And
then go home and oil my automatic, and check the locks on my door."
JPB, in his threats here, demonstrates that in real life he would
represent a physical threat to anyone questioning the validity of
his paranoid obsession. Thank God that there is an ocean that
separates us. You may also expect to protect a proven baby killer
for whatever reason you might have... but it is absurd to argue that
JPB is rational in his obsession. I believe that in real life he is
socially maladjusted, and emotionally immature, while cutting a
wide swath across a great number of Usenet groups, totally
unconnected to the baby killer, such as alt.tv.dark-shadows,
alt.babylon5.uk, uk.jobs.wanted, and alt.startrek. Yet in each
of them consumed with protecting his baby killer. Given a look
at the subjects in those groups, it is quite probable that he lives
in front of the TV, when not posting.
He probably has a feeling of powerlessness to _save his obsession_,
and this even would reflect on an inability to be successful in
normal, real life relationships, using socially acceptable behavior.
He most certainly demonstrates extreme jealousy here, bordering
on paranoia, lashing out at any criticism of him or his defense of
that baby killer, This almost certainly translates into his real life.
And he must be quite insecure about himself, suffering from an
enormous amount of low self-esteem. He thus needs to find his
success in a fantasy relationship with someone he sees as
unattainable, but in _need of his protection_. And this infatuation
becomes the driving force in his life.
Those who feed his obsession... become his allies. Those who
he feels threaten his obsession become the focus of his threats.
Look at how he attempted to defend Desmond's now proven
insulting attempts to claim he is Jewish. Implying that John
Rennie, in his personal knowledge of Desmond, used a _Nazi
method_ to determine that Desmond is not Jewish. Claiming
that John decided that Desmond was not Jewish... because
John thought that Desmond __ didn't LOOK sufficiently Jewish__
See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0411291805.74c75085%40posting.google.com
What an insult to John! Claiming that John thinks all Jews must
have some certain distinctive physical features about them, or
else John decides that they are _not Jewish_. His particular
comment is not only an insult to John's integrity, it is just another
of his insults to those who are Jewish, just as he insulted the
victims of the Nazi death camps. Using that insult to
protect someone who is most certainly NOT Jewish, but has
in the past defended both JPB and that baby-killer.
Notice how he threatened Cerberus, the moment he perceived
that Cerberus was questioning his obsession. Notice when
I mentioned "Sir Galahad," that he became so defensive
of that usage... as if it was his and his alone... as he sees
HIMSELF as that "Sir Galahad." That _knight in shining armor_
protecting his image of _purity and innocence_, a fucking
baby killer. Whether you agree that she is or not, is hardly
relevant... since you apparently thus agree that the "State of
Massachusetts is utterly riddled with corruption from top to
bottom." And you must thus also accuse everyone in the
prosecution... the entire jury, the trial judge, every prosecutor,
every medical expert for the prosecution, every law
enforcement official, all of the U.S. media, and the entire
Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of
somehow being involved in a vast conspiracy to convict one
single baby killer, because she was British.
These are the hints that apparently you simply refuse to even
think about. But you are correct... you can call them the
way you see them. Just as I can do the same.
JN
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/JPB.html
Jim Noles
> j.rennie1 <j.re...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> "Just passing by" <unimpre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:21b1da28.04111...@posting.google.com...
>
>>> victims and that is certainly not Desmond, who never wrote the things
>>> you wrongly accuse him of writing.
>
>> Do you not consider it an insult to the Holocaust victims to state that
>> their deaths were legal?
>
> made that argument.
You consider a claim that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing
any innocent Jews as not an insult to those victims, Desmond?
Pardon me, but I think you claim it is an insult to Roger Coleman to
state that his killing was legal. But apparently you find six million
Jews not insulted when you call their killings legal.
And I believe we can set aside the issue of morality, since I
expect you would argue that BOTH the execution of Roger
Coleman (or, in fact, that of any murderer), and the murder
of those six million Jews are all immoral. So do not try to cloud
the issue of what you find as legal, with what you find as moral.
Two standards, eh... One for the Nazis... one for the U.S.
You make the claim that any proven murderer executed
in the U.S. is insulted by the standard used in that killing.
But find no insult to any of the six million innocent Jews
murdered by the Nazis, in the standard used in those killings.
One thing is sure... you do not appear insulted in defending
the Nazis as legally innocent.
JN
(I did not mention your absurd claim that "If it's legal, it's moral..."
since it is just too obscene to even consider).
Jim Noles
murders were legal. But to be sure... sandwiched in between
his words that --- PV thinks that his baby killer is fat -- and his praise,
and gloating about the _weight loss_ of his baby killer -- he clearly
inserted the victims of the Nazi death camps. In one of the most
uncaring and insensitive attempts to use those victims ever
witnessed. He either did not even think about how those victims looked
as they were led to their murder, or he recognized how they looked
but did not CARE! He simply wanted to USE them, and did not
even pause for a new sentence or to take a breath, as he used
those victims followed by his orgasm over the _new look_ of a
baby killer. His words --
"He calls her "The Great White Whale". He says she is fat. But
PV, the man who has also tried to mock and insult the victims
of the Nazi death camps, has not seen what Louise Woodward
looks like recently."
Followed by a URL he had created as a fucking SHRINE to that
baby killer. See --
http://uk.geocities.com/unimpressed901/
He should have instead not insulted the victims of the Nazi death
camps. I cannot for the life of me... see ANYONE... defending
his comment. Would you care to try? See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=21b1da28.0309281656.43b27d4%40posting.google.com
I was left thunderstruck by the insensitivity he demonstrated
in the very first words in his post. Left literally stunned in disbelief
at the sight of that most bizarre and grotesque insult to those victims.
Using them alongside of a proven baby killer, and gloating about
HER WEIGHT LOSS!!!
Did he for even one moment consider how emaciated those victims
looked as they were being murdered? I don't think even the hardest
of neo-Nazis could have offered up such a characterization, without
at least a blush coming to their cheek in their own shame. It
had a surreal and paralyzing quality to it to me. Long before that,
I had realized that JPB did not take the holocaust seriously, but
only saw it as a means to attack ME personally... in his usual
methods of threats and intimidation. But that particular comment
was mind-numbing.
Of course, JPB has now insulted YOUR integrity (how very typical
of his methods). Because you dared to state that Desmond is not
Jewish, and you know him personally. Because you what you said,
JPB had the audacity to accuse you of having made such a claim
because of how you found Desmond to physically _LOOK LIKE_.
Claiming that you think that all Jews must have some certain
distinctive physical features about them, or else you decide that they
are _not Jewish_. Implying that in your personal knowledge of
Desmond, you relied upon a _Nazi method_, and because you
thought that Desmond didn't LOOK _sufficient Jewish_ to you,
you pronounced him to not be Jewish. His particular comment
was not only an insult to your integrity, it is just another of his
insults to those who are Jewish, just as he insulted the victims
of the Nazi death camps. Using that insult to protect someone
who is most certainly NOT Jewish, but has in the past defended
both JPB and that baby-killer.
JN
Jim Noles
LOL... JPB comes in right on schedule. Another one who does not
consider it an insult to six million innocent Jews to claim they
were legally executed, and their killers are legally innocent of
any crime. Send the Nazis all home free... and provide a box
lunch, a few dollars, and a new suit of clothes (without the swastikas,
please), to tide them over until they can get a good-paying job.
Of course, you've accused John Rennie of using the _Nazi method_
of determining that Desmond is _not Jewish_. Claiming
that John decided that Desmond was not Jewish... because
John thought that Desmond __ didn't LOOK sufficiently Jewish__.
What an insult to John! Claiming that John thinks all Jews must
have some certain distinctive physical features about them, or
else John decides that they are _not Jewish_. That particular
comment is not only an insult to John's integrity, it is just another
of your insults to those who are Jewish, just as you insulted the
victims of the Nazi death camps. Using that insult to John
to protect Desmond, who is now exposed as most certainly
NOT Jewish, but has in the past defended both you and that
baby-killer.
Are you still pissed that I used your copyright of "Sir Galahad"
that you reserve for yourself in your belief that you are a _knight
in shining armor_ here, protecting the _purity and goodness_
of a baby killer?
Yours in the hope you regain your mental health..
Dr. James Noles... PhD in moral fiber.