And Here It Is ...
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>... the post in which I conclusively and completely destroy FuckWit's
>claims both that I 'laughed' at murder, and that Donna called me 'obscene'
>based on that.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
>
>As you will see, the above message proves beyond any doubt that my words in
>the thread 'Thank Are Due', were to express dismay at 'America' (sic)'s
>brutal policies in Iraq, and at how they were not achieving their stated
>aim, i.e. to 'reduce terrorism'. I also tan FuckWit's racist,
>anti-Semitic, gay-hating 'ass' (sic), by showing that as Donna's use of the
>word 'obscene' was based on a false premise, notably FuckWit's lying about
>what I had written. The word 'obscene' is thus nullified.
>
Hardly... and it's sad that you would presume that you could LAUGH
at murder, and believe it provides some 'political statement.' Since
that is EXACTLY what the murderers of those more than a dozen
innocent human beings did. You are no better than they are... as
THEY certainly LAUGHED at the murders they committed... thus
you also LAUGHED right along with them. And your pathetic attempts
to deny it, because you now realize that a respected abolitionist found
you OBSCENE for laughing at those murderers is even more sad.
It is just not RATIONAL.... to form a presumed 'political statement'
by insulting the VICTIMS in such a manner. It is insanity,and as
Donna accurately observed OBSCENE, to presume that a 'political
statement' CAN BE MADE standing over the bodies of the victims.
You were LAUGHING at the VICTIMS, Desmond, regardless of
ANY presumption that you find a 'political purpose' to imply that
the murderers were not 'really' terrorists, but Bush and Blair. You
were not laughing at them, or any murderer.. you LAUGHED at the
VICTIMS. The fact is - it was the VICTIMS that you claimed were
simply FODDER for your 'political statement,' characterizing them
as WORTHLESS in your pursuit of your own 'political agenda' just
as the actual murderers did... when you STATED that their murders
SOLVED a population problem in YOUR WORDS.
You might just as well have claimed that the holocaust was population
control, since that was murder by the Nazis. Would you think calling
the holocaust, population control, could possibly be seen as a
SANE POLITICAL STATEMENT?
There are ways and means to protest policies that you disagree with,
OTHER than calling MURDER -- POPULATION CONTROL!!!!
Using those VICTIMS to make some 'political statement,' is no better
than the terrorists who committed those murders believing THEY
were 'only making a political statement.' The fact that you are unable
to see that... turns my stomach.
>Light Dwellers and those deathies sick of FuckWit's mendacity alike, are
>welcome to use the above URL whenever they wish to show that he is a liar.
>
I never lie, Desmond. You are certainly attempting to do so at this
moment.. because your belief in respected abolionists adoring you
has been shattered. Shattered beyond all mending. As badly shattered
as when you spit in the face of MLK... more in fact... since you could
lie and blame your doing so on me. In this case... you have NO ONE
to blame but YOURSELF. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_1.html
PV
>--
>Desmond 'I laugh at murder' Coughlan
Gentle reader... I have shed my hate for Desmond... I realize that all that is
left for me here in this imaginary medium is to be horrified by the horror of
his racism and the murderous instincts he expresses here, which have
horrified so many others, witness to the horror of his words, that they have
departed from reading or commenting to this group. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=bmhgpm%24nvc%241%40mailgate2.lexis-nexis.com
Another reasonable poster, unable to any longer stomach Desmond, forced
to depart. Another one chased away by Desmond. But given Desmond's mental
decline now demonstrated by wishing to murder all retentionists, and the
very clear evidence that he is a racist, I can only hold pity for him. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_150.html
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
Yep... here it is - One can see that laughing at murder coming from Desmond -- in
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_100.html
However, this one time I will place that comment here.. in case the apathy
_vote_ might decide not to bother going to see it --
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Desmond Coughlan famous alternate gimmick n° 100
== Desmond laughs at murder claiming it eases the "population problem" ==
click here --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_100.html
to see Desmond Coughlan's 'laughing at murder' words which were --
Thanks is due "... to Bush and Blair, for easing the population problem in Indonesia,
by another 13."
Desmond laughing about 'easing the population problem' with the murder of more than a
dozen innocent humans in a bombing in a Jakarta hotel. Again proving that Desmond
Coughlan finds murder to be a very funny thing... while holding terrorists murderers
on some sort of pedestal.
Desmond's comment BEGAN with laughing. Clearly he used those murdered victims as the
foil of the joke he offered, as he began his 'political rant.' I believe that no one
can express a'political agenda,'immediately after LAUGHING over the DEAD BODIES of
murder victims. It is similar to speaking at a funeral of a murder victim, beginning
by opening the coffin and taking a wizz on the corpse, laughing to those in
attendance, expecting to elicit a laugh from the audience before beginning to speak
of the dead. Then expecting to go into a serious expression, using a gratuitously
indifferent eulogy, which praises the murderer more than the victim, while winking at
the widow in a slightly surreptitious, but obviously covetous manner, realizing that
the 'population' of her husband... has been 'reduced by one.' And then ending with
"Oh.. by the way... his death was a 'tragedy.' What time is lunch being served?"
It may be DONE... but nonetheless - it is LAUGHING at the murder victim in the
coffin. And whatever follows cannot ERASE that LAUGHING.
What is certain, when the gentle reader looks at Desmond's words, is that he is
either LAUGHING, before USING those victims to make a 'political statement,' as the
true murderers did, or he is SERIOUS. He must be one or the other. And I would prefer
to give him the 'benefit of the doubt,' since if he is serious, the implications in
such an evil use of those murdered, suggest that he could also claim to be 'serious'
if he were to say --- "Thanks is due to the Nazis, for easing the population problem
of the Jews in Europe, by another six million." He did not say THOSE words... but the
likeness between the two statements is quite clear. Thus, one could draw the
conclusion that he felt the same about one as he does about the other... since murder
is murder... IF HE WAS SERIOUS!! Thus, I would prefer to believe he was
LAUGHING at those murder victims, since the thought of him being SERIOUS is
simply too MONSTROUS to imagine.
Looking at Desmond's comment, one realizes that the opening was not simply
'ill-chosen,' but represents a USE of those victims murdered to make what Desmond
believes is a 'political statement' of his view, which meshes precisely with the
'political statement' made by the murderers... that the victims are an 'insignificant
byproduct' of their fanatical 'political statement.' Which makes Desmond's comment
similarly fanatical, reducing those victims to only objects of derision. Those humans
murdered being diminished to nothing other than a CLAIM that their murder represented
only 'population control.'
The terrorist murderers, who most certainly cared nothing about the victims, laughed
at what they saw as the 'success of their political statement.' EXACTLY as Desmond
believed laughing at the victims, spelled the 'success of HIS political statement.'
They laughed... and Desmond LAUGHED along with them... at the victims. Both Desmond
and the murderers looked only to the belief that those victims represented pawns in
their 'political statements,' having no 'real' existence as humans.
Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him OBSCENE after
reading his comment, and for one brief moment in time, it made Desmond look in the
mirror and see himself. But after doing so, unable to stand what he saw... he went
about the house and broke every mirror, to insure he could no longer see himself. So
utterly disgusted by that fleeting glance of himself that Donna Evleth provided here
in AADP... when she correctly recognized Desmond was OBSCENE, for having attempted to
USE those murders in a 'political statement,' that violated every rational norm of
arguing 'political statements.'
As the 'Dorian Gray of AADP'... for one transient instant, Desmond saw himself as
others see him... and he was utterly repelled by that first stage... the VISION of
himself. Following the destruction of every mirror in his home, Desmond entered the
second stage that is an integral part of his behavior pattern, after having been
exposed... DENIAL. Contending that Donna had been 'tricked' by Planet Visitor, and
was "gullible." Ending by implying she was too 'stupid' to actually find and
understand the original comment of Desmond. Finally, after Planet Visitor's repeated
reposting of his words, and Donna's comment, he was no longer capable of denying what
Donna had revealed of his obscene laughter at the murder of those human beings.
Thus... came the third stage... an attempt to JUSTIFY that obscene vision he had seen
of himself. The problem is... that is where his view of himself always stalls to a
[FULL STOP]. Desmond is never able to enter the fourth stage... that of ACCEPTANCE
of his behavior patterns. Thus... the fifth stage. ATONEMENT eludes him.. and the
sixth and final stage... REDEMPTION... giving him the ability to finally climb out of
that dark pit he shares with other vipers, who also attempt to hide from their words
in AADP, will always be beyond him. How very sad...
In the beginning, Desmond Coughlan, the God of all things depraved, rose in nakedness
from his particular moral chaos, but finding nothing of substance to rest upon, he
commenced to vent his venom in expressing his total hate for all victims of murder
here in AADP. While Donna Evleth, one of the most respected abolitionists in
alt.activism.death-penalty not only having found herself unable to stomach a single
word from Desmond, called his comment OBSCENE after it was brought to her attention,
and she investigated his post. To see her total disgust with Desmond after reading
and digesting the meaning of Desmond's comment... click here
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=3f475389%240%247485%2479c14f64%40nan-newsreader-02.noos.net
Desmond Coughlan... PROVEN to LAUGH at murder in AADP
shame...shame...shame...
PV
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:91saqvko61bigjglt...@4ax.com...
(snipped)
> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him
OBSCENE
I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
support of your personal vendetta.
Euro
----------------------------
"I am not here to _make friends_, or join in alliances because parts of my
opinion happen to coincide with theirs, as I have seen others hope to do. I
do not seek out others who might agree with my opinions, as some sort of
crutch for my opinions, as I have seen others do. I do not beg members here
to _vote_ for me as I have seen others do. I do not presume to insult them
if they do not _vote_ for me as I have seen others do."
From:
www.google.com/groups?selm=6r19av03bai69kjpo...@4ax.com
While anyone could have written those lines and would be deemed sincere, the
above shows that for PV principles and everyday practice are well separated.
Anyway... "Le propre des cons, c'est qu'ils osent toujours".
A Planet Visitor
>
>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>??????:91saqvko61bigjglt...@4ax.com...
>
>(snipped)
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
>
>> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him
>>OBSCENE
>
>I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
>support of your personal vendetta.
>
I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
>Euro (the clone of Goebbels)
>----------------------------
>"I am not here to _make friends_, or join in alliances because parts of my
>opinion happen to coincide with theirs, as I have seen others hope to do. I
>do not seek out others who might agree with my opinions, as some sort of
>crutch for my opinions, as I have seen others do. I do not beg members here
>to _vote_ for me as I have seen others do. I do not presume to insult them
>if they do not _vote_ for me as I have seen others do."
>
>From:
>www.google.com/groups?selm=6r19av03bai69kjpo...@4ax.com
>
>While anyone could have written those lines and would be deemed sincere, the
>above shows that for PV principles and everyday practice are well separated.
>Anyway... "Le propre des cons, c'est qu'ils osent toujours".
You really need that mirror, euro. Why would I be 'prohibited' in your
fascist view, from mentioning a comment from another poster?
Clearly Donna found Desmond OBSCENE... INDEPENDENTLY.
Although Desmond claimed she was only 'gullible,' and implied she
was too 'stupid' to actually have found the post in question.
Am I supposed to 'never mention that Donna found your MESSIAH --
OBSCENE'? Is this some 'secret club' you hope to erect in AADP?
Hide what you see as 'the dirty secret' of someone being a Jew, and
of someone calling your MESSIAH OBSCENE? Have you ever seen
how you and the rest of the coven of goblin followers of your
MESSIAH 'lean on each other' for support, in forming alliances? Clearly
I have no 'alliance' with Donna, and we remain fundamentally at odds
on just about every principle known to Man... with the CLEAR exception
that we both find your MESSIAH -- OBSCENE. Which makes her
comment all the more MEANINGFUL. And that bothers both you
and your MESSIAH tremendously. If it was a retentionist who had
made the remark that Donna made... you would be disrespecting THAT
poster. But because it was Donna... your frustration over your inability
to attack HER... must be driving you wild. So.. since my stated purpose
is to ravage your pseudo-morality, and the 'credibility' (ho ho ho) that
you think you have here, as a member of that coven... why should I
not mention that Donna has recognized your MESSIAH as OBSCENE?
Do you really think your MESSIAH would not do the same in that
situation? Do you think YOU wouldn't? Your entire argument in most
cases is built on a foundation of lies, and distortions. Don't be a twit your entire
life.
I didn't 'beg' Donna for her comment... She looked at it, and formed her
own opinion that it was OBSCENE. Do you think I 'manipulated'
her? Get a life... Your MESSIAH is now trying to manipulate her... by
dismissing her comment as irrelevant. That frightens you... doesn't it? Since
you recognize she holds the same framework that you hold in respect to
the DP.. and suddenly she finds your MESSIAH, to be OBSCENE. In
a comment that YOU have defended in some of the most disgusting contortions
seen lately. Are you afraid that she might also find YOU obscene, for
DEFENDING that LAUGHING at murder? Regardless, I certainly find you
obscene, for defending that laughing at murder.
PV
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
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> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:45:31 GMT, "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> >??????:91saqvko61bigjglt...@4ax.com...
> >
> >(snipped)
> >
> >> http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
> >
> >> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him
> >>OBSCENE
> >
> >I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
> >support of your personal vendetta.
> >
> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
> your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
> implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
> comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
> frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews. I don't even
care whether others are Jews or not. Obviously, you like to stress people's
origins, so in order to better stigmatize them. Stigmatization of others
because of their origins is obscene.
Euro
A Planet Visitor
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>>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly your
>>> stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew, implying
>>> it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE comment you
>>> have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is frightening in its
>>> clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>> It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews. I don't even
>> care whether others are Jews or not. Obviously, you like to stress
>> people's origins, so in order to better stigmatize them. Stigmatization
>> of others because of their origins is obscene.
>
>It's equally obscene that FuckWit could call another poster 'Goebbels',
If the shoe fits... I'll do anything I fucking well please in this imaginary
forum... since I presume you do the same. The difference is 'what I
please' has certain limits... what YOU please... have none. In fact the
poster in question will LIVE with having asserted that it is DISGUSTING
to mention that someone is a Jew... shhh.. it's the Europeans... don't
mention the Jews.
>based on nothing more concrete than the former's blatant lying to attribute
>an opinion to someone, when that person has never mouthed (or written) such
>words.
Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be well
familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every post of
euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should have a lot
in common to discuss.
>
>FuckWit hates Germans; that much is obvious from his words. As usual, he
>is attempting to pass off his own faults, onto other posters.
>
No... I hate certain people.. Racists, anti-Semites and murderers.. among them.
While some reach certain heights in demonstrating they are racist and anti-Semites
then my hate turns to pity.
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_1.html
PV
>- --
>Desmond 'I hate the human race' Coughlan
A Planet Visitor
>
>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>??????:4i7mqv8mjftshjpoe...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:45:31 GMT, "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>> >??????:91saqvko61bigjglt...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >(snipped)
>> >
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
>> >
>> >> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him
>> >>OBSCENE
>> >
>> >I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
>> >support of your personal vendetta.
>> >
>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
>> your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
>> implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
>> comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
>> frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews.
Sure, euro... and you also find these vast differences between murderers and
innocent slaves. ho ho ho. The problem is, you are pathetically unbelievable
when you pronounce those pseudo-moralistic platitudes to yourself...expecting
to be believed, after having previously posted comments that are quite contrary
to your 'denials.' Your murderer-innocent slaves argument demonstrated
this fact quite vividly. Those platitudes you expect to utter in AADP of your
presumed morality... while you leave BOTH murderers and innocent slaves
to ROT. Presuming YOU are more important than EITHER murderers or
innocent slaves. Is it possible that for one instant you can be HONEST with
yourself?
I did not call it, nor do I believe, it is DISGUSTING for someone to mention
that a RC Cardinal has stated he is a born Jew. You are the one who has
STATED it IS DISGUSTING to you to do so. You figure it out.
> I don't even
>care whether others are Jews or not.
You care... but you are right... it's NOT that you care about the Jews.
They're nothing to you, but DISGUSTING to you to mention that one
claims to be a Jew. What you CARE about, is trying to deny the
hypocrisy you demonstrate here. You CARE ABOUT YOU. As
usual. You 'care' very much about trying to defend yourself in respect
to an argument where you called it DISGUSTING to mention that
someone is a Jew. Unfortunately for you... your position is indefensible.
It's checkmate... and you've proven yourself to be an anti-Semite.
> Obviously, you like to stress people's
>origins, so in order to better stigmatize them. Stigmatization of others
>because of their origins is obscene.
Not at all. I will stress that the Jews are the most stigmatized and
ostracized people in our entire recorded history. I presume you would
find that pointing this out is 'obscene.' But what IS 'obscene' is
denying that it is so. And the mind-set YOU demonstrate here... is
simply one of an anti-Semite... You deny you are an anti-Semite..
but at the same time you state -- don't mention that someone claims
to be Jewish... because you find doing so is DISGUSTING.
Your insults toward me... only demonstrated how YOU feel about
remarking that someone claims to be a Jew.
In fact, what you are doing right here, is presuming that the more I
point out what an anti-Semite you are, by repeating your use of that
word "DISGUSTING," the more you contend I am 'stressing' this
point, and thus YOU contend that doing so is anti-Semitic. But
one cannot 'stress' an objection to anti-Semitism enough. You
need to admit it... and move on to insulting another part of humanity.
You've done quite enough damage to the Jews in this dialog.
I concern myself with attacking racism ... and find racism itself, or
hiding from it when seeing it... DISGUSTING. This concerns
itself mainly with racism against Black Americans, and thus one
must say 'Black American.' I concern myself with attacking
anti-Semitism...and find anti-Semitism itself, or hiding from it
when seeing it... DISGUSTING. This concerns itself with the
Jewish people, and thus one must say 'Jew.' I actually do not
concern myself with the origins of others, since they are not
the subjects of prejudice. It is not something to hide or be
DISGUSTED with saying. Only YOU find it DISGUSTING...
and would attempt to deny it... and hide from it. The FACT
that the Jews HAVE been... and CONTINUE TO BE ostracized,
stigmatized and hated, by a large faction of European members
needs to be EXPOSED. Reasonable Europeans do not deny
that for one moment, and would feel nothing wrong with remarking
that Cardinal Lustiger states he is a born Jew. Only those who
are unreasonable Europeans, or anti-Semites would try to claim
that it is DISGUSTING to mention what he has proudly stated.
As if it is something to be ashamed of, or kept hidden (as you
presumed with picturing AADP as the 'Gestapo'). That is why
I found you to be an anti-Semite. You may not THINK you are...
in your platitudes to YOURSELF, in presuming you hold this
'liberal' outlook toward the Jews. But other words expose you.
You'd like to keep 'their origins' HIDDEN. And you are blind
to your own inner feelings which continue to seep out... bit by
bit.
PV
>
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
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>>>> http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
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>>>> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called him
>>>>OBSCENE
>
>>>I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
>>>support of your personal vendetta.
>
>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly your
>> stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew, implying
>> it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE comment you
>> have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is frightening in its
>> clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>How ironic to see the poster who thinks that all Arabs are 'thieving black
>cunt's [sic]', and that all Germans are 'dumbfucks', accuse anyone _else_
>of _any_ prejudice whatsoever.
Actually... you are the one who has provided bigoted, and racist
slurs, Desmond. You cover it up... by presuming others are what you
have shown yourself to be. And I've always found those posts of
yours quite disgusting, and responsible for attempting to turn AADP
into a haven for racists, and apparently... now with euro... one for
anti-Semites as well... See
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/The_Racist_Desmond.html
But I've always realize that no one can influence you... not even those
such as Donna, who has often supported you... While you ended up by
contending she was not 'clever' enough to actually find and examine
your post, and thus she needed to 'take my word for it.'
>
>As my learnèd colleague stated only a few hours ago, FuckWit, you're a
>joke. You're quite obviously racist, and the 'velvet tongue' with which
>you occasionally speak, has so far only fooled John and Q.
My 'velvet tongue'??? ROTFLMAO. Sucking up to me... will get you
nada.. Sucking up to your coven... will get you a SLURP...SLURP...
SLURP in return. I am not the one who spit in the face of MLK...
in a vile, spittle-filled forked-tongue lashing of his life and works. That
was YOU -- See
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_1.html
> Your fake
>hatred for racists and anti-Semitics, is more akin to the famous 'big term'
>that you used without knowing what it meant, 'eisoptrophobia'. However
>much you hate me (and you do, as well as being terrified of me and my
>daily-demonstrated ability to swat you down like a gnat), I take solace
>from the fact that you hate yourself even more.
>
No... my hate has passed, Desmond. Looking at more and more of your
drooling disgust with yourself.. clearly exposing the self-loathing you feel,
which you believe you can relieve by spreading your poison here, I no
longer find it possible to hate you. And I feel so much better, having
left that behind me. Although you are still the most ignorant son-of-a-bitch
I've ever seen... that isn't a reason to hate you. Although you've expressed
wishes to commit murder... that isn't a reason to hate you. Although you
are without a doubt the biggest racist in AADP history... that still isn't
a reason to hate you. Although you are bigoted beyond belief in your
hate for the U.S.... that still isn't reason to hate you. Although you are
obscenity personified... that still isn't reason to hate you. After examining and
reexamining a large part of all your posting history... including your begging
the group to _love_ you, your unrepressed unhealthy attraction to those
barely legal females, and your paranoid belief that 'everyone is out to get
Desmond,' it just became clear to me... that you can't possibly be hated...
you are just too fucking pathetic to ever be hated.
>>>Euro (the clone of Goebbels)
>
>Anyone who can use terms like the above to describe someone who has _never_
>made any racist or anti-Semitic comment and indeed has been one of the
>newsgroup's most consistent and outspoken critics of any and all farms of
>racism, is a devious, lying scum.
>
euro is a liar... plain and simple. In addition, his 'style' is very similar
to that used by Goebbels in spreading those lies. euro stating it
is DISGUSTING for a Cardinal to reveal he is Jewish, and someone
mention that fact. shhhh...it's the Europeans... don't mention the Jews.
Do you find it 'disgusting' to mention that Cardinal Lustiger stated he is
a born Jew? You, of all posters here, should have been offended beyond
belief by his comment. Daniel was. Of course, Daniel was MORE
offended by your comment, expressing a wish to DESTROY all
retentionists.
>{ snip remainder of FuckWit claiming that he 'isn't after friends',
> whilst spending all of his time trying to make them }
>
LOL.. Think of your coven, Desmond... think of your post RIGHT HERE!!
Where you are desperately 'looking for a friend' in euro. Seeking another
member you can mutually SLURP... SLURP... SLURP. The utter
hypocrisy you demonstrate RIGHT HERE... by DEFENDING euro...
is astonishing. That breaking of all the mirrors in your house apparently
did the trick... since you certainly cannot see yourself.
Perhaps you can point me toward the last time I DEFENDED any poster
here, looking for a friend? Tell you what... I'll trade you ten for one... you
sucking up to a poster and me doing so. Right here... it's already one to
nothing. Do you really think no one can see you are sucking up to euro, in
this post created to defend him? Think of how you are sucking up to Earl...
shit... there must be at least ten posts right there! PRAYING that he might
influence Donna to make even the slightest remark, that you might blow
completely out of proportion to deny that she found you LAUGHING
at murder... and OBSCENE for doing so. You're so pathetic... is it any
wonder that my hate has turned to pity?
PV
>- --
>Desmond 'Won't SOMEONE be my friend?' Coughlan
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>>>>>I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others in
>>>>>support of your personal vendetta.
>
>>>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly your
>>>> stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew, implying
>>>> it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE comment you
>>>> have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is frightening in its
>>>> clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>>>How ironic to see the poster who thinks that all Arabs are 'thieving black
>>>cunt's [sic]', and that all Germans are 'dumbfucks', accuse anyone _else_
>>>of _any_ prejudice whatsoever.
>
>> Actually... you are the one who has provided bigoted, and racist slurs,
>> Desmond. You cover it up... by presuming others are what you have shown
>> yourself to be. And I've always found those posts of yours quite
>> disgusting, and responsible for attempting to turn AADP into a haven for
>> racists, and apparently... now with euro... one for anti-Semites as
>> well... See http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/The_Racist_Desmond.html
>
>Why do you still 'hanker' back to the days of the Final Solution, FuckWit?
>What is it about that period that gives you 'wood' ?
>
>> But I've always realize that no one can influence you... not even those
>> such as Donna, who has often supported you... While you ended up by
>> contending she was not 'clever' enough to actually find and examine your
>> post, and thus she needed to 'take my word for it.'
>
>Provide a URL where I said that. No, FuckWit, you can't. You're a liar,
>FuckWit.
>
No sooner said than done, Desmond... although you are glad that Dolly has
left, since many of your lies will no longer be recorded... See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030824153404.29660.00000213%40mb-m24.aol.com
Your words to Donna, regarding your LAUGHING at murder --
"(especially a claim concerning a post that you have not read)"
A very clear expression that you do not believe she actually read your post.
Now would you call her 'clever' for not having done so?
Enter apology to me here _______
Enter apology to Donna here _____________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
PV
>{ snip unread }
>
That's never stopped you from vomiting on unread material before, Desmond.
PV
>--
>Desmond 'Why should I read what I don't want to see' Coughlan
Actually... that's rather logical. For once.
A Planet Visitor
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>>>>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
>>>>> your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
>>>>> implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
>>>>> comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
>>>>> frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>>>> It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews. I don't
>>>> even care whether others are Jews or not. Obviously, you like to stress
>>>> people's origins, so in order to better stigmatize them. Stigmatization
>>>> of others because of their origins is obscene.
>
>>>It's equally obscene that FuckWit could call another poster 'Goebbels',
>
>> If the shoe fits...
>
>Except the shoe doesn't 'fit', FuckWit. Everyone on this newsgroup has
>hammered it into your skull that your lying and constructing strawman
>arguments does more harm than good.
>
Of course it does...
>*shrug*
>
>What do I care ? I outclass you intellectually by a factor of several
>hundred thousand billion to one. Swatting you down is second nature to me,
>now. Who am I to complain if you make it that bit easier ?
>
See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_74.html
You really are in 'love with yourself,' aren't you? Too bad that you
can't follow through intellectually with your trumpeting of 'victory.'
Of course... you did prove that you know how to LAUGH at murder --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_100.html
Perhaps you believe that is a 'victory.' A 'victory' for population
control to you.
>{ snip unread }
>
>I'm off to watch this now ...
>
>url:http://www.nbc.com/Law_&_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit/index.html
>
>You'll forgive me if I don't respond to the rest of your infantile
>attention-grabbing posts this evening. The statistics will be out
>tomorrow, so we can see how comprehensively I'm demolished you.
>
I should, of course, snip this mindless drivel demonstration the cheap and
tawdry, redneck taste that Desmond has in TV. But SVU must hold some
special attraction for him... perhaps there will be a 17-year-old female
murdered, that he can drool about raping before murdering her. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_171.html
>{ snip unread }
>
TRANSLATION -- Those big words frightened me.
PV
>- --
>Des Coughlan
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:b57rqv0btupp8t93p...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 13:20:02 GMT, "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> >??????:4i7mqv8mjftshjpoe...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:45:31 GMT, "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> >> >??????:91saqvko61bigjglt...@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >> >(snipped)
> >> >
> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/sbb9
> >> >
> >> >> Donna Evleth recognized that LAUGHTER from Desmond, when she called
him
> >> >>OBSCENE
> >> >
> >> >I find it quite obscene to continuously try and drag (and use) others
in
> >> >support of your personal vendetta.
> >> >
> >> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
> >> your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
> >> implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
> >> comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
> >> frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
> >
> >It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews.
>
> Sure, euro...
Glad you finally admit it. I'd like to have the same certitude about you.
Euro
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:6cpqqvcjor561spso...@4ax.com...
>
> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be
well
> familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every post of
> euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should have a lot
> in common to discuss.
Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
propaganda. You're not even that.
As for the lies, I guess that the pot calling the kettle back means
something to you.
Euro
> PV (alias Goebbels)
j.rennie1
"Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
> ??????:6cpqqvcjor561spso...@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:09:06 +0100, Des_The_Deathie_Destroyer
> > <fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be
> well
> > familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every post
of
> > euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should have a
lot
> > in common to discuss.
>
> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
> propaganda.
He wasn't you know. He certainly wasn't polite to the Jews.
Des_The_Deathie_Destroyer
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Euro <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be
>> well familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every
>> post of euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should
>> have a lot in common to discuss.
> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
> propaganda. You're not even that.
Now, everyone watch very carefully what FuckWit is about to do.
The above, whilst in no way constituting an endorsement of the Nazis in
general, or of Goebbels in particular, will be twisted by FuckWit, to allow
him to claim that Euro 'supports' Goebbels' ideas. He might not do it
today, or tomorrow, and in fact he'll probably wait a few weeks, to allow
Euro's post to fade from memories, and from what he fuckwittedly calls 'the
active newsreader' of news:alt.activism.death-penalty's posters. Then
he'll claim something like ...
'No one is surprised, coming from someone who said, "Goebbels had the
right idea's" [sic] !!'
Thus a new instance of FuckWit Patented Gimmick (TM) N° 166 [1] will have
been born, and FuckWit will repeat it _ad nauseam_, in the hope that
someone will believe him.
Poor FuckWit. Still hating the Germans because they 'screwed up' the Final
Solution ...
[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/166.html
- --
Des Coughlan
http://www.zeouane.org/
http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/
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A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
Do you really think your pathetic insult bothers me? When you make
'friends' with those who deny the holocaust and who claim that no murders
of Jews occurred in Dachau, Bergen-Belson, and Buchenwald, because
they were 'only' concentration camps? Get real... anyone who holds
to that argument is the Nazi... and he's YOUR friend... Ol' Racist
Nev... supreme cook of holocaust denial... and chief architect of hate
the Jews. Your friend... not mine.
When you agree with another who says it is DISGUSTING to mention
that a RC Cardinal has stated he is a Jew... that poster presuming it is
a 'dirty little secret' that must not be spoken of. Shhhhh.... it's the
AADP Gestapo... don't mention the Jews. That's YOUR friend....
not mine. Nor will either of them ever be my 'friend,' while you love
sucking up to both of them.
If you agree with THEM... and you apparently do... then it's perfectly
clear who the 'Nazi Bastard' is, sport.
But in an expression of my pity for you, and because I am a compassionate,
caring and forgiving human being. I am willing to agree to a truce,
Desmond. To end the constant bickering between us. With just a few,
small admissions on your part ::::
------------------------
You admit you are the greatest racist to ever post to AADP.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that your attraction for barely legal females demonstrates an
unhealthy sexual deviate behavior.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you LAUGH at murder.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you are a murderer lover.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that the doctrine of punishment for murderers is a rational
doctrine.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you wished to torture and kill all retentionists, but now
reject that desire.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that those who posts to one of your obscene comments
are not homosexuals, expressing a homoerotic attraction to you.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you begged the group to _vote_ for your racism, and
accept the blame for doing so.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you figuratively spit in the face of MLK.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you imagined yourself murdering a 17-year-old female,
and then expressing regret that you didn't rape her first.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that the victim of a murder is NOT a 'lesser evil' than the execution
of that murderer.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that the lawful DP is not murder.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that the holocaust was not legal nor lawful nor anything but pure murder,
on a vast scale. That is called genocide, which is impossible to characterize as
lawful or legal regardless of a society presuming that they are acting lawfully or
legally.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you have insulted family of members in obscene characterizations.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you are not God... and cannot 'define' an Easter Bunny 'right
to life' as being 'universal, which cannot be physically demonstrated as existing
except as words on paper, placed there by man. Who is, himself, hardly
'universal.'
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you have lied on a huge number of occasions.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you have made absurd claims that lack the slightest
logical or physical foundation.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you have made 'promises' to the group that you
had no intention of keeping, and that you violated with impunity.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you are basically anti-American as a principle of
your posting here, and are not that concerned with the DP in the U.S
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that your personal life is a disaster of immense proportions.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you have forged entire posts of other posters.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that you are a pathetic WHINER.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You admit that Dolly's archive of your posts was an accurate representation
of your words.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
You agree to no longer hide your words from archive in google.
[ ] Check here to indicate your admission.
Okay... there you go... that would be a start. You admit all that... and I
promise not to spank you more than occasionally, when you revert. Just
a few simple check marks... and we're on our way to a 'new dawning.'
>{ snip }
>
>>>> But I've always realize that no one can influence you... not even those
>>>> such as Donna, who has often supported you... While you ended up by
>>>> contending she was not 'clever' enough to actually find and examine
>>>> your post, and thus she needed to 'take my word for it.'
>
>>>Provide a URL where I said that. No, FuckWit, you can't. You're a liar,
>>>FuckWit.
>
>> No sooner said than done, Desmond... although you are glad that Dolly has
>> left, since many of your lies will no longer be recorded... See --
>> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030824153404.29660.00000213%40mb-m24.aol.com
>> Your words to Donna, regarding your LAUGHING at murder --
>>
>> "(especially a claim concerning a post that you have not read)"
>
>It's regrettable that you had to lie, and that I had to catch you out,
>FuckWit. The above post was not written by me, but by you, using your
>'dolly' persona. That being so, no mention of the word 'stupid' appears
>anywhere in either that forgery, or the original which is on my server.
>
You can deny it all you wish... but everyone KNOWS that dolly only
existed to record YOUR words... which you would now lie... and try
to deny. Imagine a poster, who posts his words... proudly... and then
later DENIES having said them. What do we call such a person? Gee...
I believe the word that comes to mind... is LIAR!! And I believe that
I have predicted on a great number of occasions that you WOULD
LIE, to deny you had written what Dolly had archived. So afraid are
you... of YOUR OWN WORDS. If I were Dolly, I can guarantee that
your posts would STILL be archived to google, as Dolly. Thus, your
lie in claiming I'm Dolly, is exposed logically, as being as pathetic as all
your other lies.
While, in another of your ignorant denials, let me explain that one doesn't
need to USE the word 'stupid' to imply they have found the other to be
'stupid.' You certainly found Donna to be too 'stupid' to actually locate
and read your post LAUGHING at murder. Anyone can see that from
your words of 'protest' that she did not have the ability to locate and
read your post. Next, I presume that you will deny even having
written the "Thanks are due.." post... since that was also purposely
not archived to google by you.
Look, sport... you can DENY all you wish... it doesn't bother me in
the least... since I presume that others are NOT stupid... while you
HOPE they are. My faith rests in the READER... certainly not with
you... since your record in 'honesty,' is recognized as non-existent.
I will call you a LIAR for doing so.... FOREVER. No matter how
much you deny... I will CONTINUE to repeat over and over those
words of YOURS... that were placed into archive by Dolly. No
matter how often you call me a liar... for demonstrating that YOU
are a liar. Nothing will deter me from showing you up as the
liar you are. You don't like it? Then -
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
That's about the only advice I can give you, for your hysterical denials
of your own words.
>> A very clear expression that you do not believe she actually read your
>> post. Now would you call her 'clever' for not having done so?
>>
>> Enter apology to me here _______
>Dear FuckWit,
>I'm sorry for thrashing you daily on news:alt.activism.death-penalty, but I
>can't in good conscience allow you to spread your hatred and lies.
>
Not much of an apology... but then... I wasn't exactly holding my breath...
And what I am spreading... and spreading liberally and happily... are your
hatreds and lies. You really should put them behind you, and come into
the light, as I have left my hate for you behind me... and only pity for you
remains.
But I'm only the messenger here, Desmond. Apologizing to me, wasn't an
essential. But it seems you clipped the area I had left for you to apologize
to Donna, who DOES deserve an apology from you, for presuming she
could not find and read your post... so let me reenter room for that apology
that you deceptively clipped from my post --
Enter apology to Donna here _____________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________
If you have any respect for her... that's where it should be shown.
PV
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>
>- --
>Des Coughlan
The hate-monger and liar of AADP
A Planet Visitor
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>
>>> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
>>> propaganda.
>
>> He wasn't you know. He certainly wasn't polite to the Jews.
>
>Which syllable of 'propaganda' of causing you problems, John ?
>
>Propaganda never killed anyone.
Yeah, right... It's not 'guns that kill people,' it's 'people that kill people.'
From the sickening words of Joseph Goebbels -- Sept 20, 1943
"A sharp sword must always stand behind propaganda if it is to be
really effective."
What an ignorant 'fruitcake' you are, Desmond. Next thing you'll
be claiming that 'murderers never killed anyone.' Oh... wait.. sorry...
you've already implied that a great number of times.
PV
>- --
>Des Coughlan
"Who says rednecks don't have a sense of humour ..? Now be a good girl, and go tend
to your brother/uncle/son/father. He's in the next trailer. "
Desmond Coughlan - Apr 25, 1999
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=87eml88pop.fsf%40lievre.coughlan.fr
"I do not post racist or sexist slurs,..."
Desmond Coughlan -Feb 2, 2000
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=slrn89gnko.146.desmond%40lievre.voute.net
Desmond Acceptance of lie -- enter here ______________________________
A Planet Visitor
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>Euro <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>
>>> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be
>>> well familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every
>>> post of euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should
>>> have a lot in common to discuss.
>
>> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
>> propaganda. You're not even that.
>
>Now, everyone watch very carefully what FuckWit is about to do.
>
>The above, whilst in no way constituting an endorsement of the Nazis in
>general, or of Goebbels in particular, will be twisted by FuckWit, to allow
>him to claim that Euro 'supports' Goebbels' ideas.
Not a bit... euro USES Goebbels METHODS. Of course there is
the certainty that Goebbels ALSO found any 'mention of the Jews'
as DISGUSTING. Just as euro stated he finds such a mention.
When I noted that Cardinal Lustiger has proudly stated he was a
Jew (as you have so stated proudly yourself, Desmond - thus I
am amazed that you seem to be ashamed of it now), euro remarked
that he found such a mention to be DISGUSTING. His word... not
mine. DISGUSTING to mention that someone has stated he is
a born Jew... and that someone being a RC Cardinal, no less.
euro didn't find it DISGUSTING for that Cardinal to recommend
calling a murderer BLESSED by millions of people.. but euro WAS
DISGUSTED by that Cardinal stating he was born Jew. Go figure.
> He might not do it
>today, or tomorrow,
Why wait... there it is... suck it up, Desmond. Be sure to remove your
archive-off when responding, however. I'd like to make sure that
your support for anti-Semitic ravings are a matter of record.
> and in fact he'll probably wait a few weeks, to allow
>Euro's post to fade from memories, and from what he fuckwittedly calls 'the
>active newsreader' of news:alt.activism.death-penalty's posters. Then
>he'll claim something like ...
>
> 'No one is surprised, coming from someone who said, "Goebbels had the
> right idea's" [sic] !!'
>
>Thus a new instance of FuckWit Patented Gimmick (TM) N° 166 [1] will have
>been born, and FuckWit will repeat it _ad nauseam_, in the hope that
>someone will believe him.
>
>Poor FuckWit. Still hating the Germans because they 'screwed up' the Final
>Solution ...
>
LOL.. Desmond now provides an 'educational lesson' in how to use the
methods of Goebbels. Thanks, Desmond... but we all knew you used
those methods frequently. Apparently you are translating YOUR
view into mine. Since I have never expressed anything but utter revulsion
at those who would deny the depth and scope of the holocaust. While
you 'argued' that ==> 60 years is quite enough... let's just forget about it <==
See your words at --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20020825212921.27149.00000788%40mb-cg.aol.com
What is beginning to trouble me, Desmond, is that I always knew you held
a distaste for the Jews, even though admitting you are Jewish... having called
them 'butchers,' or engaged in 'butchery' and finding them just to be 'evil
little snots,' in the meaning of much of your raving attacks on Israeli Jews.
But now I seem to detect that it's deeper than that... perhaps part of that
self-loathing that you've displayed in other areas. Do you really loath the
Jews? Do you hate the Jews? I need to get a handle on just far your
'distaste' for the Jews goes. Do you support a new diaspora of the Jews
from Israel? Which stage in the progressive destruction of the Jewish people --
conversion - expulsion - extermination, do you support? Would you be
satisfied if the State of Israel no longer existed, as a Jewish state, and the
Jew now relegated to a minor role of being detested by those now in
control of that state? Do you believe the U.S. should now change its
policy toward Israel, and support it being turned over to a group of
Arab nations to administer? You see, I KNOW that Ol' Racist
Nev is a total holocaust denier, and hates the Jews with an abiding and
deep passion. I KNOW that euro is not that deep into such hate, but 'doesn't
like them very much,' and would rather no one mention them, since he finds
it DISGUSTING to do so. Especially if it is his 'moral' Cardinal murderer
lover, who states he is a born Jew. But I don't have a handle on how much
YOU hate the Jews... who are your own. It's an interesting question. Care
to address it? On a scale of 1 to 10, with, given your already demonstrated
'distaste for the Jews'-we begin with that foundation of 1 being 'distaste for the
Jews,' 5 being a 'loathing for the Jews,' 8 being an intense 'hate for the
Jews,' and 10 being 'support for a new holocaust.' Where do you find yourself
on that scale? IMHO.. I find you to be about a 4, maybe a 5. Disgusting...
but a fair analysis, I believe... given an examination of the body of your posts
referring to the Jews.
>[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/166.html
Begging the group to _vote_ for your anti-Semite friends isn't quite the
same as when you begged the group to _vote_ for your racism, Desmond. see -
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_166.html
>- --
>Des Coughlan
Two other quotes from Goebbels, that demonstrates the way Desmond posts to
AADP --
"Hatred. That's my trade. It takes you a long way further than any other
emotion."
"Propaganda has only one object: to conquer the masses. Every means that
furthers this aim is good, every means that hinders it is bad."
You know... the more I examine the quotes of Goebbels as I examined
them for a few posts, the more I recognized a similarity to Desmond's methods
of posting than anyone else here. Perhaps I should call Desmond, "Big
Goebbels" and euro, "Little Goebbels."
FitzHerbert
> >A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
> >
> Do you really think your pathetic insult bothers me?
Everybody who had the pleasure of knowing yr mammy knows you're a
bastard, FW. And regarding 'Nazi', you have previously stated that you
'wear THAT [sic] badge with pride': "If you think calling me a Nazi
bothers me... it does not." [1]
> 'friends' with those who deny the holocaust and who claim that no murders
> of Jews occurred in Dachau, Bergen-Belson, and Buchenwald, because
> they were 'only' concentration camps? Get real... anyone who holds
> to that argument is the Nazi... and he's YOUR friend... Ol' Racist
> Nev... supreme cook of holocaust denial... and chief architect of hate
> the Jews. Your friend... not mine.
Why not provide a few quotations to back-up yr silly claims, FW?
BTW Are you still strutting around Usenet calling Kenny McVay a
"racist", FW?
Hope this helps,
Neville FitzHerbert, esq.
[1] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=o4b1bvc4n50l9bjflev62k0anbv0hb1jui%404ax.com&output=gplain
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:03brqvg6fbg6mimdl...@4ax.com...(snipped)
>
> >>>Euro (the clone of Goebbels)
> >
> >Anyone who can use terms like the above to describe someone who has
_never_
> >made any racist or anti-Semitic comment and indeed has been one of the
> >newsgroup's most consistent and outspoken critics of any and all farms of
> >racism, is a devious, lying scum.
> >
> euro is a liar... plain and simple. In addition, his 'style' is very
similar
> to that used by Goebbels in spreading those lies.
You, PV, have repeatedly claimed the following on me:
1/ that I "have argued that it is moral to elevate a murderer to a revered
position in the RC Church, where he would be considered BLESSED";
2/ that I wrote, or admitted, that "there is no DIFFERENCE you see between
murderers and innocent slaves";
3/ that I "have claimed that we make no progress by separating murderers
from non-murderers";
4/ that I "stated that the only thing I respect about Cardinal Lustiger, is
the fact that he is murderer lover";
5/ that I agreed with Desmond laughing at laughter, while I explicitly
stated that I viewed his words as sarcastic and distanciated myself from
such a sarcasm;
6/ that I "claimed it is moral to beatify a murderer";
7/ that I claimed you "insulted Cardinal Lustiger by saying 'He's a Jew'";
8/ that I argued that "slaves were just like murderers".
This only to take a few recent examples. You have written those lies on
several occasions, repeated them, without ever bringing a URL reference that
supports your views or your interpretations. Your assertions are only based
on biased, partial conclusions and distortions of statements taken out of
their context.
Furthermore, it appears your behaviour towards me is far from being
isolated. You obviously use the same process with several other posters,
forging lies and repeating them again and again with the apparent belief
that doing so will make them appea as truth. The list of those you try to
demonize is long, and the regular posters here will not need me to recall
it.
You obviously know Goebbels better than I do, so I shall let you decide if
your behaviour is typical of Goebbels. What I know, is that, according to
Lenin, repeating a lie several times can help forge the truth. That's the
secret of propaganda. Whether Goebbels or Lenin, anyway, I don't believe
your behaviour gives a good image of you, and the various insults you pour
here, every day, make you appear as the bigot, intolerant crank that you
most certainly are.
As long as you keep doing so, you shall expect being exposed here. Your
insults, your rantings, won't change anything.
Euro
A Planet Visitor
>'Lt James Hawkins' <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message news:<lnj0rvoqu1e977lih...@4ax.com>...
>
>> >A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>> >
>> Do you really think your pathetic insult bothers me?
>
>Everybody who had the pleasure of knowing yr mammy knows you're a
>bastard, FW.
As opposed to half the male population of England 'knowing' your mother, Ol'
Racist Nev. Since you insist on such paedomorphic insults.
> And regarding 'Nazi', you have previously stated that you
>'wear THAT [sic] badge with pride': "If you think calling me a Nazi
>bothers me... it does not." [1]
>
Considering the source, anything he calls me cannot bother me... since
it has never represented the truth. And his idea of the holocaust was that
it was just 'taking out the trash in Europe.' You are most certainly a Nazi...
present day... and would gleefully applaud a 'new holocaust' across the face
of Europe, to rid Europe from those you imply are 'vermin.'
>> 'friends' with those who deny the holocaust and who claim that no murders
>> of Jews occurred in Dachau, Bergen-Belson, and Buchenwald, because
>> they were 'only' concentration camps? Get real... anyone who holds
>> to that argument is the Nazi... and he's YOUR friend... Ol' Racist
>> Nev... supreme cook of holocaust denial... and chief architect of hate
>> the Jews. Your friend... not mine.
>
>Why not provide a few quotations to back-up yr silly claims, FW?
>
Of course...
(1)
"I must stress that Dachau, Belson, and Buchanwald were _not_ used as
death-camps for Jews."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0305290530.16495221%40posting.google.com
(2)
"Dachau, Belson, Buchanwald were concentration camps, all of which held
'career-criminals', political-prisoners and the 'work-shy' to begin with, later on
also _POWs_ and (at the very end) evacuated Jews from the forced-labour
camps and death-camps in the east."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0305271322.6bef6222%40posting.google.com
(3)
"I have merely pointed out that 'Gitmo' is a concentration camp, in many way
similar to Dachau (or any other camp that was used to house 'dissidents' away
from the public without trial for indefinate periods)."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0306030522.57f6c081%40posting.google.com
(4)
"Dachau was a concentration camp. It was used to concentrate
dissidents, resistance types, Commies, anti-Nazi religious types,
unacknowledged POWS etc. in a small geographic location away from the
German population and out of the way of the German army. Those
interned were, on the whole, not allowed to leave and were forcably
detained for an indefinate period. No trials were held. They were held
incommunicado without legal redress."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0306020603.15a49a95%40posting.google.com
See if you can find the word 'murder' in any reference you've made to
any of those 'concentration camps.' In fact, all you've implied
is that they did not occur there, because they were ONLY 'concentration
camps.' That's holocaust denial, Ol' Racist Nev...holocaust denial, plain
and simple.
>BTW Are you still strutting around Usenet calling Kenny McVay a
>"racist", FW?
>
No, I called YOU a racist, for sometimes spoofing in various handles,
providing anti-Semitic ravings . One of your frequent spoofs in respect
to attacking McVey, can be seen when you took on the handle "Black
Hammer," For an example of your 'racist handiwork' See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=72bf5ef0.0303071447.1e7cea6%40posting.google.com
You really think you can hide your 'true identity' using hotmail? LOL.
Your 'true identity' has always been a close association with "Grosvenor,"
when you're not actually posting under that handle, yourself.
Hope this helps... but I seriously doubt it.
PV
>Ol' Racist Nev
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>FitzHerbert <FitzHerb...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>
>> 'Lt James Hawkins' <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message > news:<lnj0rvoqu1e977lih...@4ax.com>...
>
>Heh ... that could catch on.
>
>>> >A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>That already has.
>
>>> Do you really think your pathetic insult bothers me?
>
>> Everybody who had the pleasure of knowing yr mammy knows you're a
>> bastard, FW. And regarding 'Nazi', you have previously stated that you
>> 'wear THAT [sic] badge with pride': "If you think calling me a Nazi
>> bothers me... it does not." [1]
>
>Why should it, when it apparently is the truth ? I gave a lot of thought
>before 'outting' FuckWit. His hatred of the Germans has been obvious for a
>long time [1], but I couldn't figure out quite why. Then his ostentatious
>and self-conscious berating of _everyone_ [2] on the newsgroup as
>'anti-Semitic', when no one on the abolitionist side has _ever_ posted an
>anti-Semitic comment of _any_ kind, came into sharp focus, and the last
>piece of the puzzle fell into place. FuckWit hates the Germans because the
>Final Solution failed. The Germans 'screwed up'. If FuckWit had been at
>the reigns, he'd have made sure that none of 'dem pesky "Jew's" [sic] was
>still around to steal money from "Catholic's" [sic]'.
>
You happen to be a rather sick person, Desmond. Truly... a pitiful spectacle
of humanity. I criticize a German for displaying a clear anti-Semitism, and
you defend anti-Semitism. I point out that a German Justice Minister compared
Bush to Hitler, and was dismissed for doing so... and you claims that
I 'hate' all Germans for pointing that out. While you claim that you do not 'hate'
all Americans, yet you accuse Bush of being a MURDERER, and LAUGH
at murder, because you have done so. See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_100.html
Go figure. And then Desmond wonders why I pity him.
>>> 'friends' with those who deny the holocaust and who claim that no murders
>>> of Jews occurred in Dachau, Bergen-Belson, and Buchenwald, because
>>> they were 'only' concentration camps? Get real... anyone who holds
>>> to that argument is the Nazi... and he's YOUR friend... Ol' Racist
>>> Nev... supreme cook of holocaust denial... and chief architect of hate
>>> the Jews. Your friend... not mine.
>
>> Why not provide a few quotations to back-up yr silly claims, FW?
>
>'Quotes' (sic), Fitz ... 'quotes' (sic).
>
Already provided... but just for you, Desmond... since you need the lesson
of the holocaust... having forgotten all about it, and BEGGING everyone
else to 'forget about it.' -- Ol' Racist Nev's words, which I'm sure you have
no problem with at all, except he was probably a bit too harsh on Dachau,
calling it a 'concentration camp.' You would probably take a much milder
approach to characterizing Dachau. After all...you claim that it was 'all quite
legal,' while even Ol' Racist Nev denies that. Thus you'll probably want to
condemn him for implying that Dachau wasn't 'legal.' --
(1)
"I must stress that Dachau, Belson, and Buchanwald were _not_ used as
death-camps for Jews."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0305290530.16495221%40posting.google.com
(2)
"Dachau, Belson, Buchanwald were concentration camps, all of which held
'career-criminals', political-prisoners and the 'work-shy' to begin with, later on
also _POWs_ and (at the very end) evacuated Jews from the forced-labour
camps and death-camps in the east."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0305271322.6bef6222%40posting.google.com
(3)
"I have merely pointed out that 'Gitmo' is a concentration camp, in many way
similar to Dachau (or any other camp that was used to house 'dissidents' away
from the public without trial for indefinate periods)."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0306030522.57f6c081%40posting.google.com
(4)
"Dachau was a concentration camp. It was used to concentrate
dissidents, resistance types, Commies, anti-Nazi religious types,
unacknowledged POWS etc. in a small geographic location away from the
German population and out of the way of the German army. Those
interned were, on the whole, not allowed to leave and were forcably
detained for an indefinate period. No trials were held. They were held
incommunicado without legal redress."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a5ec705.0306020603.15a49a95%40posting.google.com
See if you can find the word 'murder' in any reference Ol' Racist Nev made to
any of those 'concentration camps.' Do you think any murders occurred in
Dachau? I mean since you were a Kapo there, you should know.
>> BTW Are you still strutting around Usenet calling Kenny McVay a
>> "racist", FW?
>
>LOL ... why am I not surprised ???
You should not be surprised at all to see the methods of Ol' Racist Nev, since
they are your methods. Such as when I proved you were a racist, you called
me a racist for exposing your racism. It's a method of denial that is quite
familiar to you, since you use it all the time.
PV
>[1] url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=KfRi9.6193%24yB5.253233%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&hl=fr
>[2] sorry, 'EVERYONE' (sic)
>- --
>Desmond 'Let's all forget the holocaust, folks' Coughlan
A Planet Visitor
>
>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>??????:03brqvg6fbg6mimdl...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:24:24 +0100, Des_The_Deathie_Destroyer
>> <fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>>
>(snipped)
>>
>> >>>Euro (the clone of Goebbels)
>> >
>> >Anyone who can use terms like the above to describe someone who has
>_never_
>> >made any racist or anti-Semitic comment and indeed has been one of the
>> >newsgroup's most consistent and outspoken critics of any and all farms of
>> >racism, is a devious, lying scum.
>> >
>> euro is a liar... plain and simple. In addition, his 'style' is very
>> similar
>> to that used by Goebbels in spreading those lies.
>
>You, PV, have repeatedly claimed the following on me:
>
>1/ that I "have argued that it is moral to elevate a murderer to a revered
>position in the RC Church, where he would be considered BLESSED";
>
Quite right -- Your words --
"You will also note that Lustiger is, in France, one of the prominent
activists for the beatification of Jacques Flesch, sentenced to death and
executed in France in 1957 for the murder of a police officer following a
bungled robbery.
http://www.catholicdigest.org/stories/200108106a.html
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to stress the great moral qualities of
Lustiger" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dd7b24844c1b79d34bac9efbb48e2fcd%40news.meganetnews.com
>2/ that I wrote, or admitted, that "there is no DIFFERENCE you see between
>murderers and innocent slaves";
Yes, you admitted as much in the example of Buridan's ass. A recognition which
has existed in that dilemma for thousands of years. Finding no difference between
two choices and starving in the middle in indecision. You really need to 'get off
your ass,' and choose one or the other, or clearly it is proven that you find no
difference between murderers and innocent slaves. You cannot claim that
you find a difference, yet argue that such a 'difference' is that they both have 'the
SAME' human rights. Since that is not any 'difference' at all.
You refused to choose between saving murderers or saving innocent slaves,
claiming that "Your question doesn't exist, PV. It is scholastic and has no sense.
Both slavery and capital punishment are violations of human rights and, from a
human rights perspective, there is no choice to do." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=7bdcb795c96cae1ec88d8d6ea691de18%40news.meganetnews.com
Further, I hate to point this out... but you very clearly lied, by claiming that I
had not answered 'your example,' since I HAD very clearly answered it,
immediately. While I also explained that your 'example' made no sense in
separating murderers from innocent slaves, since the example you offered
was of 'two murderers' rather that 'a murderer who is not a slave,' and 'a slave
who is not a murderer.' Which is the logical conditions necessary to made
a choice between a murderer and an innocent slave. In any case, I did
answer it, and you lied and said I had not in a subsequent post later. Will
you now admit that you lied?
The fact that I did answer your example, even though it was quite stupid
in its argument... demonstrates that I am far, far more honest than you.
>3/ that I "have claimed that we make no progress by separating murderers
>from non-murderers";
>
Umm... exactly... your words --
""I don't think one makes much progress by separating non murderers (the
good ones) and murderers (the evil ones)."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2706c22e2c8c73ebbd818d20b986abb%40news.meganetnews.com
>4/ that I "stated that the only thing I respect about Cardinal Lustiger, is
>the fact that he is murderer lover";
>
Whatever are you raving about? Go back and read those words again,
since they are a canard, if your 'quote' is anywhere near what you intend.
The only quote I can find which you might intend to mean were my words --
"I find the ONLY thing I respect about Cardinal Lustiger IS that he
claims to be a born Jew... and I find nothing "disgusting" about it."
I was speaking of what "I", not YOU, find is the ONLY thing I
respect about Cardinal Lustiger. Of course, there is the clear idea
in my mind that he IS a murderer lover. No one could presume to
try and elevate a MURDERER to a position in which a murderer would
be revered by millions, and called BLESSED by them. No one but a
murderer lover could even imagine such an idea. Of course, being
a murderer lover, simply goes with the territory of much of the RC
Church priesthood. But... now listen carefully... I never claimed that
YOU stated that Cardinal Lustiger is a murderer lover. That would
be absurd... since you certainly do not believe he is one. "I" believe
he is one! You believe he is quite moral... and thus you also believe
that -- shhhhh... he's a moral RC Cardinal...don't mention he's a Jew...
because that is DISGUSTING to you.
What is true is that you stated that because I had mentioned that
Cardinal Lustiger has proudly claimed to be a born Jew, that my
mentioning he had made such a claim -- was DISGUSTING to you.
Which I find is an anti-Semitic statement, regardless of what you or
any of your 'friends' might find. If one claims the 'right' to make racist
and anti-Semitic statements (and one of your friends has stated
there is such a 'right' and of course there is, since it is not a
'legal crime' to do so), then I certainly have the same 'right' to
say I find racism and anti-Semitism in a remark that I see here,
if I see it. And I see it in you, in the use of that particular word --
DISGUSTING.
>5/ that I agreed with Desmond laughing at laughter, while I explicitly
>stated that I viewed his words as sarcastic and distanciated myself from
>such a sarcasm;
>
Actually, you did agree with Desmond. Your entire comment was meant
to DEFEND him... and your use of the word 'sarcastic,' is especially
insightful, since before you have stated that ""Sarcasm is a good way out
after having said stupidities." And in another instance of your methods --
"After having said something stupid, sarcasm is a good way out." (ask me
where... since I have the references). And you were clearly trying to extract
your MESSIAH from the stupidity of his LAUGHING at murder, by claiming
it was 'only sarcasm.' Sometimes, your own concepts, previously expressed,
expose your methods. That one did so, quite perfectly.
>6/ that I "claimed it is moral to beatify a murderer";
>
See 1/ above. Your words. You cannot argue that Cardinal Lustiger is
moral for trying to beatify a murderer, and then claim that YOU don't think
it's moral to do so. It's totally illogical.
>7/ that I claimed you "insulted Cardinal Lustiger by saying 'He's a Jew'";
>
Of course you did... you said it was DISGUSTING (your word), to
mention that he had said "I am a Jew." If that isn't an insult to him, I simply
don't know what you think it is. If I had mentioned that he had said "I am
Italian," would you have said.... that's DISGUSTING? You only find
it DISGUSTING, because 'inside' you find the Jews DISGUSTING...
and THAT to me is disgusting of you. You need to be more careful
with your words, because they expose your inner feelings.
>8/ that I argued that "slaves were just like murderers".
>
Same as above... Buridan's ass... if you are unable to find any difference in
them, which would enable you to choose between them... then it's a truism
that you see them just like each other.
>This only to take a few recent examples. You have written those lies on
>several occasions, repeated them, without ever bringing a URL reference that
>supports your views or your interpretations.
Actually, you will find the reference to all of your words, given above. I'm
sorry that you are unable to see yourself, euro. But don't blame YOUR
faults on ME. I'm simply remarking on your words.
> Your assertions are only based
>on biased, partial conclusions and distortions of statements taken out of
>their context.
>
Pathetic denials. Yet... you did say the Cardinal was moral for doing
what he did, thus you must find what he did to be moral. While
you certainly have been unable to identify even one difference you
find between murderers and innocent slaves, yet you continue to state
you do see them as different, while letting them BOTH ROT... when
you had the power to save one or the other.
>Furthermore, it appears your behaviour towards me is far from being
>isolated. You obviously use the same process with several other posters,
>forging lies and repeating them again and again with the apparent belief
>that doing so will make them appea as truth. The list of those you try to
>demonize is long, and the regular posters here will not need me to recall
>it.
I demonize those who I feel demand to be demonized. You are one of
them. You cannot depend on OTHERS to defend YOUR words, euro.
Your words are YOUR responsibility. You keep repeating that comment,
because you expect others to defend YOUR words, finding yourself in
great difficulty, unable to do so without such 'help.' But having all the fools
in AADP, on 'your side' doesn't support your argument, since it might only
prove that fools are the majority here (quite clearly that is my firm belief
in the intellect of the majority of the members here at this time). If you can't
defend your own words, without the pathetic excuse that I have differences
with others, then your own words are worthless.
You will find that I do not depend on others to support my words, while
you expect that support from every quarter. Think about it... WHY
do you find it necessary to believe you have such support, if your
argument is presumed strong on the face of it?
>
>You obviously know Goebbels better than I do, so I shall let you decide if
>your behaviour is typical of Goebbels.
Why would you claim that I know Goebbels better than you, since his
style of propaganda was much similar to your postings than mine? I
am a reactive poster. You are a proactive poster. Almost axiomatically,
proactive posters are most closely connected to fascism, and propaganda
than reactive posters, who generally respond to FIGHT and oppose the
propaganda put out by proactive comments. You generally harangue, as
you did with your raving admiration of Cardinal Lustiger, while I simply
used his words to make a point, and made no 'moral judgment' of the
Cardinal, himself. You were the one who jumped up to the pulpit and
proclaimed your great pseudo-morality stating that you oppose the
DP just like you oppose slavery. I questioned that bit of Goebbels
propaganda... and you obviously were unable to defend your comment.
And the list goes on. You make these raving God-like comments...
in the form of Goebbels propaganda... and I simply question and
explode the myths you offer. Such as the 'right to life,' and Gacy having
the same 'human rights' as any innocent person.
> What I know, is that, according to
>Lenin, repeating a lie several times can help forge the truth.
You know the principle well.. you use it almost constantly.
>That's the
>secret of propaganda. Whether Goebbels or Lenin, anyway, I don't believe
>your behaviour gives a good image of you, and the various insults you pour
>here, every day, make you appear as the bigot, intolerant crank that you
>most certainly are.
But you are unable to look in the mirror, and see that you are spewing out
a stream of insults, and have done so almost from the beginning of our
entire dialog...because you found your Goebbels propaganda CHALLENGED
by me. You could not stand such a challenge... your ego will not permit you
to admit to any flaw in your propaganda (which is clearly a Goebbels
method)... and you responded almost immediately with insults and vicious
attacks... a la Goebbels. While it often demanded that I respond with
comments that you took as insults, but were simply remarks that were
meant to show that I recognized your insults. Such as above.
>
>As long as you keep doing so, you shall expect being exposed here. Your
>insults, your rantings, won't change anything.
>
You really didn't say anything in this entire post, euro... except almost
admissions of where your comments have failed...followed by a stream
of insults. Truly you have become quite desperate.
PV
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
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>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>>>>>>> I find you quite OBSCENE simply as a 'matter of course.' Certainly
>>>>>>> your stating that it is DISGUSTING to speak of someone being a Jew,
>>>>>>> implying it is a 'dirty little secret,' is perhaps the most OBSCENE
>>>>>>> comment you have ever provided in your presence in AADP. It is
>>>>>>> frightening in its clarity as hate for Jews.
>
>>>>>> It underlies how obscene you are, PV. I don't hate the Jews. I don't
>>>>>> even care whether others are Jews or not. Obviously, you like to
>>>>>> stress people's origins, so in order to better stigmatize them.
>>>>>> Stigmatization of others because of their origins is obscene.
>
>>>>>It's equally obscene that FuckWit could call another poster 'Goebbels',
>
>>>> If the shoe fits...
>
>>>Except the shoe doesn't 'fit', FuckWit. Everyone on this newsgroup has
>>>hammered it into your skull that your lying and constructing strawman
>>>arguments does more harm than good.
>
>> Of course it does...
>
>Some more 'reasoned debate' from FuckWit ...
>
Some more 'mindless drivel' from Desmond 'the butcher of Dachau' Coughlan
PV
>{ snip unread }
>
>- --
>Des Coughlan
A Planet Visitor
It's so pleasant when I can expose you for the deceptive liar you are. Since
my words were - "Sure, euro... and you also find these vast differences
between murderers and innocent slaves. ho ho ho. The problem is, you are
pathetically unbelievable when you pronounce those pseudo-moralistic
platitudes to yourself...expecting to be believed, after having previously
posted comments that are quite contrary to your 'denials.'"
I was addressing your denial... and "sure, euro..." was not 'agreement,'
but incredulity that you could expect anyone to believe you.
The PROOF of your hate for the Jews lies in the fact that you said it was
DISGUSTING to 'mention that someone is a Jew.' See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=371eb2f897493d9d08eebeda1bf2c0d8%40news.meganetnews.com
There have been very few comments that have more readily caused me to
immediately recognize a hate for the Jews was contained in such a comment,
than in reading your particular comment. What has your family TAUGHT
you? To hide the fact that your neighbor might be Jewish? And then in
the most ugly of implications... you contend that you "could be born Jew."
Which you argue would give you the 'right' to BE an anti-Semite. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=401ce60be23792f070bffee4212f2ebb%40news.meganetnews.com
While you also stated in that same post to me -- "you called me a racist
while you actually don't know if I'm a Black" Again, in your typical
transcendent ignorance, arguing that if you were Black... you couldn't be
a racist. I suppose if you were a murderer... I couldn't call you a murderer...
in that ignorance you demonstrate.
PV
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
>
>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>??????:6cpqqvcjor561spso...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:09:06 +0100, Des_The_Deathie_Destroyer
>> <fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should be
>> well
>> familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost every post of
>> euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two should have a lot
>> in common to discuss.
>
>Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
>propaganda. You're not even that.
>
Oh... My... God.... "Goebbels was polite..." You ARE a little Nazi, aren't
you? Ready to commit intellectual suicide with your MESSIAH in 'der AADP
Bunker.'
--------------------------
"Making noise is an effective means of opposition." J. Goebbels.
Of course 'making noise' is the guiding principle of your entire posting
history. Thus I'm sure you find that to be 'polite.'
--------------------------
"That's my trade: Hatred. It takes you a long way further than any other
emotion." J. Goebbels.
Another guidepost to your style of posting here. You really should shed that
hate... as I have done.
---------------------------
"Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character." J. Goebbels.
You really do follow his rules quite rigidly.
---------------------------
"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one
fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly . . . it must confine itself to a
few points and repeat them over and over."
Unfortunately, the few points you repeat over and over are -- love murderers --
hate Jews -- love murderers -- hate Jews... etc...etc...etc.
----------------------------
>As for the lies, I guess that the pot calling the kettle back means
>something to you.
>
It is a methodology that you use almost exclusively in your posting style. Such
as implying that I was a Nazi for exposing your anti-Semitism.
>Euro (Jew-baiting propagandist)
>
>> PV
A Planet Visitor
LOL. euro believes that propaganda by definition is 'polite,' that's why
he always claims he is 'polite' in his comments.
----------------------------------------------
"Making noise is an effective means of opposition." J. Goebbels.
Of course 'making noise' is the guiding principle of euro's entire posting
history. Thus I'm sure he finds that to be 'polite.'
---------------------------------------------
PV
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:466brvcu6l18devad...@4ax.com...
And the remaining was one of your favorite lies on me, that I clipped.
Besides, I maintain that your continuous attempts to involve others in
support of your personal vendetta is obscene.
Euro
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:as7brvkkmneepaguf...@4ax.com...
(snipping quotes of Goebbels... how disgusting that one can convey such
terrible quotes nowadays... I hope it wasn't for propaganda purposes)
> >As for the lies, I guess that the pot calling the kettle back means
> >something to you.
> >
> It is a methodology that you use almost exclusively in your posting style.
Such
> as implying that I was a Nazi for exposing your anti-Semitism.
You didn't expose anything, PV. You are the one who makes postings showing
that you _mind_ about people having Jewish origins. I don't care about
other's origins, this makes me indifferent. That's what explains how
tolerant I am, and how intolerant you are.
Reading the hate you convey in many of your posts helps anyone being
convinced how intolerant you are, anyway.
Euro
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:5pibrvgr7vl8hda94...@4ax.com...
Thanks for showing that, as far as Goebbels is concerned, you are a much
better specialist than I am.
Euro
PS: "euro believes that propaganda by definition is 'polite" - of course,
you have no URL that supports your assertion, so I shall conclude it is once
again one of your lies. Or should I call this propaganda? After all,
repeating again and again your lies to make them come true is a way to make
noise, isn't it?
FitzHerbert
<snip>
> > And regarding 'Nazi', you have previously stated that you
> >'wear THAT [sic] badge with pride': "If you think calling me a Nazi
> >bothers me... it does not." [1]
> >
> Considering the source, anything he calls me cannot bother me... since
> it has never represented the truth. And his idea of the holocaust was that
> it was just 'taking out the trash in Europe.'
The source I quoted was, er... you, FW. Glad to see you finally
'fess-up' to your Nazi leanings.
<snip>
*cough*
I think it is you who needs to search for the word 'murder', FW. It is
you who alleged that I "claim that no murders of Jews occurred in
Dachau, Bergen-Belson, and Buchenwald".
> In fact, all you've implied
> is that they did not occur there, because they were ONLY 'concentration
> camps.' That's holocaust denial, Ol' Racist Nev...holocaust denial, plain
> and simple.
Have you actually found a reputable historian of the period to
contradict my statement that Dachau, Belsen or Buchanwald were
concentration- rather than death-camps? When Wiesenthal stated that
Dachau was _not_ a death-camp, did he make a 'slip', FW?
> >BTW Are you still strutting around Usenet calling Kenny McVay a
> >"racist", FW?
> >
> No
Glad to hear it.
It was certainly a low-point, even in yr checkered posting history.
If you recall, you accused Ken McVay of "further spreading [my] racist
vile", presumably because his site agrees with me and not you. And
also because another Nizkor writer famously branded you "a crass,
classless, perverse,
anti-Semitic, homophobic, Arab-hating, bigoted, uneducated, racist,
fuckwitted FuckWit". Very perceptive that writer. He should post here
more often.
> I called YOU a racist, for sometimes spoofing in various handles,
> providing anti-Semitic ravings . One of your frequent spoofs in respect
> to attacking McVey, can be seen when you took on the handle "Black
> Hammer," For an example of your 'racist handiwork' See --
> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=72bf5ef0.0303071447.1e7cea6%40posting.google.com
> You really think you can hide your 'true identity' using hotmail? LOL.
> Your 'true identity' has always been a close association with "Grosvenor,"
> when you're not actually posting under that handle, yourself.
FW, I take it as a given that you cannot trace headers, but this is
really quite funny. Kindly offer the group your evidence for your odd
claims. I have helpfully numbered them for you:
1. The Spoofing McVey [sic] one.
2. The 'Black Hammer' one.
3. The 'Grosvenor' one.
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:bvt0rvk18d6gnmddo...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:10:54 +0100, Des_The_Deathie_Destroyer
> <fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >Hash: SHA1
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> >
> >Euro <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> >
> >>> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should
be
> >>> well familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost
every
> >>> post of euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two
should
> >>> have a lot in common to discuss.
> >
> >> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
> >> propaganda. You're not even that.
> >
> >Now, everyone watch very carefully what FuckWit is about to do.
> >
> >The above, whilst in no way constituting an endorsement of the Nazis in
> >general, or of Goebbels in particular, will be twisted by FuckWit, to
allow
> >him to claim that Euro 'supports' Goebbels' ideas.
>
> Not a bit... euro USES Goebbels METHODS. Of course there is
> the certainty that Goebbels ALSO found any 'mention of the Jews'
> as DISGUSTING.
Of course there is the certainty that Goebbels ALSO never missed an
opportunity to stress the 'Jewish origins' of other people, a process that
everyone but PV considers as disgusting.
Euro
(remaining PV propaganda, ad hominem heinous attacks snipped - of course
there is the certainty that Goebbels ALSO never missed an opportunity to
make such attacks in his personal vendettas)
A Planet Visitor
That was because he was a Nazi, euro. Only those who hate the Jews
could possibly find it DISGUSTING to mention that someone has claimed
to be a Jew in this day and age. It should be a relic of the past, but you
certainly appear intent on reviving it, you old Nazi, you. That you cannot see
this.. is simply that you hate the Jews yourself... and find nothing wrong with
calling it DISGUSTING to speak of a Jew.
PV
>Euro
(providing comments that would even shame Goebbels)
>(remaining PV propaganda, ad hominem heinous attacks snipped - of course
>there is the certainty that Goebbels ALSO never missed an opportunity to
>make such attacks in his personal vendettas)
You should know... the comments you provide in your hate for the Jews, would
cause even Goebbels to feel shame for you.
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
??????:8vogrvokc0lmbbabv...@4ax.com...
Indeed. And I noticed you have done the same. What conclusions should one
draw from your quite curious behaviour?
Euro
A Planet Visitor
You clipped it because you 'can't handle the TRUTH,' euro. So let me
again provide that TRUTH, that you deceptively clipped and called a
lie, since you did presume that you might hide behind your own anti-Semitism
by implying that you "could be born Jew." --
----------------------------------------------
"Sure, euro... and you also find these vast differences between murderers
and innocent slaves. ho ho ho. The problem is, you are pathetically
unbelievable when you pronounce those pseudo-moralistic platitudes to
yourself...expecting to be believed, after having previously posted
comments that are quite contrary to your 'denials.'
I was addressing your denial... and "sure, euro..." was not 'agreement,'
but incredulity that you could expect anyone to believe you.
The PROOF of your hate for the Jews lies in the fact that you said it was
DISGUSTING to 'mention that someone is a Jew.' See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=371eb2f897493d9d08eebeda1bf2c0d8%40news.meganetnews.com
Your words -- "...Look at Lustiger... He's a Jew!" How disgusting..."
There have been very few comments that have more readily caused me to
immediately recognize a hate for the Jews was contained in such a comment,
than in reading your particular comment. What has your family TAUGHT
you? To hide the fact that your neighbor might be Jewish? And then in
the most ugly of implications... you contend that you "could be born Jew."
Which you argue would give you the 'right' to BE an anti-Semite. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=401ce60be23792f070bffee4212f2ebb%40news.meganetnews.com
While you also stated in that same post to me -- "you called me a racist
while you actually don't know if I'm a Black" Again, in your typical
transcendent ignorance, arguing that if you were Black... you couldn't be
a racist. I suppose if you were a murderer... I couldn't call you a murderer...
in that ignorance you demonstrate.
--------------------------------------------------
Each time you clip (this was the second time you did so), I will throw
the TRUTH back at you. And expand a bit on it. In you diabolical
claim that you can be 'protected' from WHAT you are... by presuming
to state WHO you are. As many times as you clip it to hide your own
behavior... that many times the TRUTH will be thrown back at you by
me. It's not without sadness that I expose your lies... it is not a task
one could possibly enjoy doing (other than the few times your comments
are just so hilariously contradictory that not laughing is impossible). But it
certainly is an obligation in which I would be 'morally remiss' if I did not
expose your hate, and bigotry. And THAT is 'not a laughing matter.'
>Besides, I maintain that your continuous attempts to involve others in
>support of your personal vendetta is obscene.
>
Tell me again how you "could be born Jew, " so you cannot be an
anti-Semite, or that you could be Black, and thus cannot be a racist. Your
ignorance, and hate for those you would try to HIDE BEHIND, to presume
that doing so gives you the RIGHT to express hate, is STAGGERING in
those words.
PV
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
mention the Jews' wrote:
>
>"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq>
>??????:as7brvkkmneepaguf...@4ax.com...
>
>(snipping quotes of Goebbels... how disgusting that one can convey such
>terrible quotes nowadays... I hope it wasn't for propaganda purposes)
>
>> >As for the lies, I guess that the pot calling the kettle back means
>> >something to you.
>> >
>> It is a methodology that you use almost exclusively in your posting style.
>> Such as implying that I was a Nazi for exposing your anti-Semitism.
>
>You didn't expose anything, PV.
Of course I did. I exposed your 'distaste for the Jews,' and I am not afraid
to say it. While you find that exposing that 'distaste' you hold for the Jews,
now becoming an unpleasant reality This exposure exists in various
comments YOU made, such as an insult you provided to the observation of
a Jewish rabbi, because he found a hint of anti-Semitism is the results of an
European poll. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=af3970a461f1e7f94c39521375b9c22d%40news.meganetnews.com
Your words -- "Rabbi Marvin Hier's somewhat peremptory (but soooooooo
convenient) judgement."
And most certainly that very clear expression of your hate for the Jews -- see
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=371eb2f897493d9d08eebeda1bf2c0d8%40news.meganetnews.com
Your words -- "...Look at Lustiger... He's a Jew!" How disgusting..."
Of course, there is also that expression of hate for the Jews in your comment --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=19406092b40057ee2a6ddf8e2c239e0d%40news.meganetnews.com
Where you would try to HIDE that distaste, by avoiding the word - Jew...
contending that Israel is not a nation of Jews. Perhaps you can name that
"Israeli Politician," who you presumed spoke of "Nationals should martyr
themselves,' you mentioned, so we might examine if he is a Jew, and the words
he used, since I provided some 'quotes,' myself.
It's not easy for you to deny that you have been exposed, since I use your own
words to do so. All I see from you is denial, after you've posted those words that
expose you.
> You are the one who makes postings showing
>that you _mind_ about people having Jewish origins.
Arrrggggg!!!! Whatever are you raving about? I don't mind mentioning that
people are Jews. YOU DO! I do mind that you would call it DISGUSTING
to mention they are. I do mind about the FACT that those having Jewish
origins, have a long, and rich heritage and a history of persecution they suffered
in Europe for thousands of years, which cannot be ignored by arguing that it
'cannot be mentioned that this person is a Jew.' That's medieval European
thinking, which prevailed, and exploded in the hateful holocaust. If a Jew did
not 'hide from the fact he was a Jew,' it was usually 'goodby time,' for that
Jew. That is the myth that YOU would perpetuate. The myth which you would
hope to PRESERVE by finding it DISGUSTING to mention that someone is
a Jew. You are the one hiding from it. YOU mind that I do mention it...
because you find it DISGUSTING to 'mention the Jew.' You so not mind
or care about that heritage and history of persecution that is staring you in the
face. You would hope that it not be recognized or seen. Just as long as no
one mentions the Jew. Because... you are an anti-Semite, and hold a great
distaste for the Jewish people.
> I don't care about
>other's origins, this makes me indifferent. That's what explains how
>tolerant I am, and how intolerant you are.
>
If you were indifferent, you would not be holding this dialog, euro. You
are very intolerant about any MENTION of the Jews. As I said... your
character finds mention of the Jews DISGUSTING. To you it is ----
shhhh... he's a Jew...don't mention it... because it's DISGUSTING! I
wonder if you would find it disgusting to mention that someone is French?
As an American.. I find no animus in remarking that someone is Jewish...
while you... in your no longer latent, but now very hostile expressions of
hate, find it DISGUSTING to remark that someone is Jewish. It's not
something that a Jew is ashamed of... but you presume that he MUST
BE ashamed of being a Jew. You would imply that he SHOULD BE
ashamed of it... and it should not be mentioned... because you find it
DISGUSTING to do so.
>Reading the hate you convey in many of your posts helps anyone being
>convinced how intolerant you are, anyway.
>
You are the one who is intolerant, euro. I did not use the word DISGUSTING
to refer to Cardinal Lustiger having stated he is born Jewish. YOU DID!!!
While the fiery, animal-savage, rabble-rousing Goebbels style hate you vomit
upon AADP is sickening. Thank God you are an abolitionist. If you supported
the DP, I believe it would demand that I now oppose it, so evil do I find any
idea of having even the slightest connection to any your lies, deceptions and
hate for humanity.
PV
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
Why would you think my pointing out your methods, means that I'm the
'specialist,' euro? Oh.. yes.. I remember why... the same method you
used when I exposed your spaciality of anti-Semitism... and you claimed
that my exposing your anti-Semitism, made me an anti-Semite for doing so.
But you're a bit behind... since that is the method used by your MESSIAH,
when I exposed his racism... and he spit in the face of Martin Luther King Jr.
calling me a racist for providing a tribute to MLK.
PV
>Euro (Goebbels is my man)
>
>PS: "euro believes that propaganda by definition is 'polite" - of course,
>you have no URL that supports your assertion, so I shall conclude it is once
>again one of your lies.
That would be your claim that your hero, Goebbels... was "polite," when he
savaged the Jews in his propaganda. Your words --
"At least, Goebbels was polite in his propaganda."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=d8232deaf4cfd86aa600b816fd947ca8%40news.meganetnews.com
As with Goebbels -- your motto is --> So much hate -- so little time to spread it.
Of course you would believe that Goebbels was simply being "polite" in this
attack on the Jews in an essay of his --
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb1.htm
I am sure you agree with every word written by him there. How 'polite' YOU are, as
well, as you attack the Jew in every post you've produced lately.
> Or should I call this propaganda? After all,
>repeating again and again your lies to make them come true is a way to make
>noise, isn't it?
Whatever are you raving about in your disgusting 'hate for the Jews'? You're
the one who admitted, and demonstrated that you use the tactics of the
propaganda of Lenin... repeating your lie often enough... contending that
doing so will transform it into the TRUTH.
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>>>>> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
>>>>> propaganda.
>
>>>> He wasn't you know. He certainly wasn't polite to the Jews.
>
>>>Which syllable of 'propaganda' of causing you problems, John ?
>>>
>>>Propaganda never killed anyone.
>
>> Yeah, right... It's not 'guns that kill people,' it's 'people that kill
>> people.'
>>
>> From the sickening words of Joseph Goebbels -- Sept 20, 1943 "A sharp
>> sword must always stand behind propaganda if it is to be really
>> effective."
>>
>> What an ignorant 'fruitcake' you are, Desmond. Next thing you'll be
>> claiming that 'murderers never killed anyone.' Oh... wait.. sorry...
>> you've already implied that a great number of times.
>
>Of course I have said no such thing, and you know it. *shrug*
Apparently the word 'implied' is beyond your "See Dick Run" reader
level.
> Not that it matters, coming from the deathie fuckwit who stated quite clearly ...
>
> 'Murderer lovers are simply murderer lovers. Unfortunately, their
> ranks come exclusively from the retentionist side...'
> url:http://www.google.fr/groups?ie=3DISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=3Dnjr8qvkk9=18qoriircoqj4711t4uh8rhg9%404ax.com&lr=3D&hl=3Dfr
>
How pathetic... relying on an admitted misspeak to presume you can hide from
an evil which argues that Goebbels was "polite." Now if we could only get YOU
to admit YOUR lies... Such as Jeffrey Daumer????
Think this was POLITE of Goebbels? --
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb1.htm
Unless you actually intend to address this issue... I can only conclude that you ALSO
find Goebbels was POLITE, in his propaganda.
>What I said above was that propaganda has never killed anyone, and it
>hasn't.
Of course it has! How can you possibly be so stupid? Propaganda has been
responsible for more killing than just about any other weapon developed by
man. It was responsible for every murder committed in the name of 'religion'
for one very clear example... unless you ACTUALLY believe that it was
'killing for the one, true God'? Check out the most basic definitions, and
then transpose them into the Crusades and the Inquisition.
------------------------------------------------------
prop·a·gan·da
prop·a·gan·da [pròpp? gánd?]
n
1. publicity to promote something: information or publicity put out by an
organization or government to spread and promote a policy, idea, doctrine, or cause
2. misleading publicity: deceptive or distorted information that is systematically
spread
[Early 18th century. From modern Latin Propaganda Fide , literally “propagating the
faith” (see Propaganda).]
-prop·a·gan·dism, n
-prop·a·gan·dist, n adj
Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2004. © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All
rights reserved.
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> Is it my fault if you can't understand ? What is it the big word
>'propaganda' that's throwing you ? Sorry, I don't know a smaller word. Oh
>wait, there is one: 'lies'. There. You're intimately familiar with that
>word.
>
I simply refuse to apologize for your stupidity, Desmond. You'll need to take
care of that 'problem' all by yourself.
>Ho, ho, ho ...
>
Another murder causing you LAUGHTER, perhaps?
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>>>>> Hey... Goebbels used lies in the pursuit of his agenda... you should
>>>>> be well familiar with the process. And I certainly see it in almost
>>>>> every post of euro's. He's a deceptive, lying sack of shit... you two
>>>>> should have a lot in common to discuss.
>>>
>>>> Still so much into scatology, PV? At least, Goebbels was polite in his
>>>> propaganda. You're not even that.
>
>>>Now, everyone watch very carefully what FuckWit is about to do.
>>>
>>>The above, whilst in no way constituting an endorsement of the Nazis in
>>>general, or of Goebbels in particular, will be twisted by FuckWit, to
>>>allow him to claim that Euro 'supports' Goebbels' ideas.
>
>> Not a bit... euro USES Goebbels METHODS.
>
>{ snip lies unread }
>
Ummm... Desmond... the mirror. The very fact you snipped and 'ranted in
the method of propaganda' that the comment represented "lies unread," smacks
of the methods of Goebbels. How do you know they are "lies" if they are
unread, unless you use those same methods? Go on.. tell me that you don't
NEED to 'read them' to KNOW they are lies... Doctor Goebbels. You step
on your own dick, and you can't even feel it, when you do so.
>I love ... sorry, 'LOVE' (sic) being right.
Sigh... if there were only that 'next time' you were 'right.' Since the last time
you were 'right,' was when you posted "PV is right."
>url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/166.html
>
Gentle reader -- Watch Desmond BEG the entire group of AADP to _vote_
for his racism, and insult them if they do not -- See --
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_166.html
A Planet Visitor
Once again... YOU are Goebbels... I have recognized you as Goebbels.
Please do not confuse between the two of us. YOU claimed that Goebbels
was 'polite' in his propaganda. That certainly admits to you finding some
AGREEMENT with his comments. While I would NEVER agree with a
single word from him. I consider each and every word of his, the personification
of an evil empire. But You call him 'polite'.. and THIS is what YOU called
'polite' propaganda. See --
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb1.htm
If that doesn't PROVE you are an anti-Semite... then I don't know what else
could do so.
As I pointed out in another post... you have no possible argument which can
possibly deny your anti-Semitism. So you presume that you can argue that
'you might be a born Jew.' As if that is supposed to 'shame' me for calling
YOU an anti-Semite. I don't give a fuck if you're from the Planet Pluto...
you're a stark, raving Jew-hater... even if you were a born Jew. Or have
you never heard of self-loathing? Which I find to be an integral part of
the persona you display here. I truly believe that YOU DO 'hate yourself,'
along with 99% of the human race. Please.... seek help. Oh... I forgot...
you do it all the time... as you SLURP...SLURP... SLURP... up to your
MESSIAH... and anyone else you think might 'support you.'
PV
>Euro
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>{ snip huge excuse for FuckWit's idiocy, dressed up as FuckWit Patented
> Gimmick (TM) N° 68, the 'Saddam Hussein Special' ... url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/68.html
>}
>
>Not much left, is there ..?
>
Getting rather desperate, Desmond? Given that your entire comment is exactly
what you would argue mine was... yet you clipped every word of mine, in
hiding from those words. Yours is the true huge excuse for your own idiocy,
not even dressed up as anything other than an admission of such idiocy on
your part. The fascist methods... lies... propaganda... hate... expressions of a
wish to destroy.. a subconscious fear of dialog... the imitations of Goebbels...
that are so much a part of the same methods both you and your disciple, euro,
find are the only way to hide from the TRUTH.
But even in my recognition of the hate you have inside of you... I would have
never suspected that you would agree with euro... that Goebbels was 'polite.'
PV
>- --
>Desmond 'Who needs the TRUTH... when I have my lies?' Coughlan
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>{ snip }
>
>>>> Everybody who had the pleasure of knowing yr mammy knows you're a
>>>> bastard, FW. And regarding 'Nazi', you have previously stated that you
>>>> 'wear THAT [sic] badge with pride': "If you think calling me a Nazi
>>>> bothers me... it does not." [1]
>
>>>Why should it, when it apparently is the truth ? I gave a lot of thought
>>>before 'outting' FuckWit. His hatred of the Germans has been obvious for
>>>a long time [1], but I couldn't figure out quite why. Then his
>>>ostentatious and self-conscious berating of _everyone_ [2] on the
>>>newsgroup as 'anti-Semitic', when no one on the abolitionist side has
>>>_ever_ posted an anti-Semitic comment of _any_ kind, came into sharp
>>>focus, and the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. FuckWit hates
>>>the Germans because the Final Solution failed. The Germans 'screwed up'.
>>>If FuckWit had been at the reigns, he'd have made sure that none of 'dem
>>>pesky "Jew's" [sic] was still around to steal money from "Catholic's"
>>>[sic]'.
>
>> You happen to be a rather sick person, Desmond.
>
>He who would hate the entire German nation, FuckWit, because he believes
>that they 'screwed up' the Final Solution, is the sick one.
>
Again... you need to look in the mirror... because you are apparently
the one who is screaming that 'the Nazis didn't get it right, damn it.'
I'm beginning to understand your anti-Americanism better now.
You see the U.S. as pro-Jewish, and thus find a better focus for
your hate for the Jews... simply by hating the U.S. Yes... it becomes
a bit clearer here... in both your obvious hate for Black Americans,
and the Jews. How easy it is for you to hate both... by simply
hating one.... Americans. You see, Desmond... Americans do not
have the same problem that Europe is presently experiences, which
I mainly attribute to YOU, and those who think as YOU.
Jewish Community Leaders are becoming quite concerned in
respect to seeing a rise in anti-Semitism in Europe. See--
http://www.eupolitix.com/EN/News/606e47ba-e5f4-494d-b893-172d93816a5d.htm
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=5051
http://www.china.org.cn/english/international/80302.htm
http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.11.21/news8.europeans.html
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr031119_1_n.shtml
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L20208900.htm
And that's only a start.
>At least have the courage to 'assumer' your convictions, FuckWit.
>
You should try that yourself. As with your spitting in the face of MLK,
believing that doing so could hide your racism... you now intend to
spit on the six million dead... to hide your anti-Semitism. Why do
you hate the Jews so much, Desmond?
Why would you 'use' such an argument, unless there was some
subconscious wish within your OWN emotions that you 'regret that
the Shoah did not murder all Jews'? You obviously have not a single
word from my posts to show that I have ever displayed any emotion
but utter revulsion at the holocaust. You will notice that your racist
buddy, Ol' Racist Nev... demeaned the holocaust, by implying that
no murders occurred in Dachau, because it was 'only a concentration
camp.' Where were YOU in that dialog? Sitting on the side... wishing
that Dachau HAD been as great a mechanical monstrous murder
machine as Auschwitz, probably. How sad... and the question hangs
in the air... why do you hate the Jews, Desmond?
A Planet Visitor
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>>>Why should it, when it apparently is the truth ? I gave a lot of thought
>>>before 'outting' FuckWit. His hatred of the Germans has been obvious for a
>>>long time [1], but I couldn't figure out quite why. Then his ostentatious
>>>and self-conscious berating of _everyone_ [2] on the newsgroup as
>>>'anti-Semitic', when no one on the abolitionist side has _ever_ posted an
>>>anti-Semitic comment of _any_ kind, came into sharp focus, and the last
>>>piece of the puzzle fell into place. FuckWit hates the Germans because the
>>>Final Solution failed. The Germans 'screwed up'. If FuckWit had been at
>>>the reigns, he'd have made sure that none of 'dem pesky "Jew's" [sic] was
>>>still around to steal money from "Catholic's" [sic]'.
>
>> You happen to be a rather sick person, Desmond. Truly... a pitiful spectacle
>> of humanity. I criticize a German for displaying a clear anti-Semitism, and
>> you defend anti-Semitism. I point out that a German Justice Minister compared
>> Bush to Hitler, and was dismissed for doing so... and you claims that
>> I 'hate' all Germans for pointing that out.
>
>Your words, FuckWit ...
>
>url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=KfRi9.6193%24yB5.253233%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&hl=fr
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How terribly stupid you are. My words in referring to all Germans were "But the
Germans are not famous for being very 'clever' in their remarks and their debating
skills." And that is most certainly my opinion, which says nothing more sinister
or diabolical about the Germans. The French are not famous for being very 'polite'
in their dealings with foreigners, seen by most as being 'rude' and a bit
condescending and even arrogant when first meeting a foreigner. That has no more
meaning than that this characteristic has been recognized. Certainly NOT that
I hate either the Germans or the French for those characteristics that have been
recognized by others. One has only to examine the words of Goebbels, which closely
mirrored the words of disgraced Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin, in saying
"Bush wants to divert attention from his domestic problems. It's a classic tactic.
It's one that Hitler used," to understand my meaning.
There is absolutely no way that my comment can be 'translated' into the meaning
that I 'hate all Germans.' And you are simply a liar for presuming that comment
does. I suppose you would presume that if I said "The Arabs are not famous for
liking the Jews," you would presume that to mean that I 'hate the Arabs,' when in
fact, it is the most common of all recognitions, which also operates in the contrary
meaning of how the Jews feel about the Arabs.
>You weren't referring to one, or even ... sorry, 'EVEN' (sic) two Germans.
>You were referring to them all.
>
Let's see-- first we have your lie -- In your words --
"it's a pity that you seem to have tarred me with the 'anti- American' brush, for
I'm certainly not."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pu7e5v4agibnjc07hblct1qeg6ikshqslc%404ax.com
Then we have only a small smattering of your anti-American comments --
1) "One can infer from this that either Americans are stupid, or sadistic bastards."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020723212934.02191.00000601%40mb-mq.aol.com
2) "'spag /spAIG/ adj. & n. sl. "spastic", "stupid person", used to refer to
Americans..." See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021120212944.28561.00001819%40mb-mv.aol.com
3) "typical dumbfuck American's ignorance" See--
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021030212918.28561.00000610%40mb-mv.aol.com
4) "idiotic buffoons that are Americans," See -
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020908212925.09987.00000590%40mb-fp.aol.com
5) "That sort of idiocy, one expects from the nation of fat, uncultured navel- gazing
halfwits that is the United States,"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn8svbie.11gm.desmond%40lievre.voute.net
6) Poster said --"Cost-free abortions, perhaps? Maybe mandatory sterilization for all
people with IQ's below 125."
Your repied -- "Damn you, man are you trying to wipe out 'America' (sic) ??!!"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030314212852.08747.00002694%40mb-cg.aol.com
7) "the United States is one of the least educated nations on earth."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn89gnko.146.desmond%40lievre.voute.net
8) "...Americans don't even know how to spell the word, let alone comprehend
the concept" See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn984mij.8t.desmond%40gateway.voute.net
9) "one can hardly be surprised if all Americans are as stupid as you."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn917fca.3m3.desmond%40lievre.voute.net
10) "Unfortunately, this sort of thinking is at present way beyond the reasoning
power of 99 % of Americans."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c%2Bka0dA9qOeyEwhf%40maudit.demon.co.uk
11) "Only to idiotic redneck Americans..."
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=RdX3t1AqeyvyEwrD%40maudit.demon.co.uk
12) Mark posted -- "Frankly, if a way could be found to select only knowledgeable and
rational individuals to make the decisions, both the criminal justice system and the
political system would be in far, FAR better shape! You replied --
"Yes, but American juries would be composed entirely of foreigners, Mark ..." See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=slrn90i6nq.4lg.desmond%40lievre.voute.net
13) "If you're 'American by birth' (which no one believes you are), then all I can
say is that you're a damning indictment of the American (sic) education (sic) system.
Are they all as illiterate as you ?"
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030223212927.16280.00002535%40mb-mo.aol.com
14) "Considering the sorry state of the 'American [sic] education [sic]' system,
it's hardly surprising that it produces such classless idiots."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030223212940.16280.00002546%40mb-mo.aol.com
Juxtapose my comment against all of yours... to see which of us is CONSUMED with
hate.
Then we have others who have recognized you are certainly anti-American --
Mr D. -- "Desmond's tenor is usually fairly anti-American and stereotyped when it
comes to all things American." See -
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=jonathan-589598.14351921022003%40newsroom.utas.edu.au
John Rennie -- "Blind anti-American prejudice can lead you up some strange alleys,
Desmond." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=_9xp9.1502%24345.70338%40newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net
John Rennie -- "Still as wildly anti-American as ever, still seizing on any
nonsensical ploy to promote that view."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020117212018.12097.00002164%40mb-fs.aol.com
Incubus -- "I have to confess that you anti american bigotry is begenning to piss me
off." See -
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Ti8u9.291%24OM6.20576%40newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net
GeneralZod -- "And Desi is too much of a class-A chicken shit to come here and spout
his anti-American venom in a public place." See --
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9Qng9.11521%246e2.2616850566%40newssvr30.news.prodigy.com
Jigsaw -- "Recently, our resident Anti-American sage" See
url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020722185456.19336.00000127%40mb-mp.aol.com
>'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak' (sic) ...'spnak' (sic) ...
>
<<Desmond drops trousers... exposes butt... says 'spank me, PV... Please.'>
Happy to oblige.. PV then provides
Spank...spank...spank... Butt-balm time for you again, Desmond.
PV
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>Desmond 'Ouch!... OUCH!!! Damn you PV...that hurt's' Coughlan
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>>>>>Why should it, when it apparently is the truth ? I gave a lot of
>>>>>thought before 'outting' FuckWit. His hatred of the Germans has been
>>>>>obvious for a long time [1], but I couldn't figure out quite why. Then
>>>>>his ostentatious and self-conscious berating of _everyone_ [2] on the
>>>>>newsgroup as 'anti-Semitic', when no one on the abolitionist side has
>>>>>_ever_ posted an anti-Semitic comment of _any_ kind, came into sharp
>>>>>focus, and the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. FuckWit hates
>>>>>the Germans because the Final Solution failed. The Germans 'screwed
>>>>>up'. If FuckWit had been at the reigns, he'd have made sure that none
>>>>>of 'dem pesky "Jew's" [sic] was still around to steal money from
>>>>>"Catholic's" [sic]'.
>
>>>> You happen to be a rather sick person, Desmond. Truly... a pitiful
>>>> spectacle of humanity. I criticize a German for displaying a clear
>>>> anti-Semitism, and you defend anti-Semitism. I point out that a German
>>>> Justice Minister compared Bush to Hitler, and was dismissed for doing
>>>> so... and you claims that I 'hate' all Germans for pointing that out.
>
>>>Your words, FuckWit ...
>>>
>>>url:http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=KfRi9.6193%24yB5.253233%40twister.tampabay.rr.com&lr=&hl=fr
>
>> How terribly stupid you are. My words in referring to all Germans were
>
>racist.
>
'Racist'??? ROTFLMAO... I'm afraid that you are blind to your own very
REAL racism... As when you spit in the face of MLK, and the many racist
slurs you have used in AADP -- See
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_1.html
and
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/The_Racist_Desmond.html
My words were exactly --
"But the Germans are not famous for being very 'clever' in their remarks and their
debating skills... Witness the present German Justice Minister making an ass of
herself -- ..."
Then referring to a now removed URL... which reflected this information -- See -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/09/23/wger323.xml
>Yes, we know, FuckWit.
>
Typical lies from Desmond... to cover up the fact that his hate for America is
founded in a vast number of references to his words, and the recognition of his hate
by others.
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Still can't find your dictionary for those 'big words,' eh, Desmond? In any case,
this was what you snipped. Just a very small sampling of the vast reservoir of
anti-American comments you have offered in the most hateful of terms --
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First -- the typical Desmond lie --
PV
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_index.html
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>Desmond 'I hate Americans' Coughlan