PV spamming exposed - How PV hijacks this group with his personal vendettas
Euro
announce today that PV has copied and posted more than 160 times (161
exactly) the same lies and distorted quotes about me.
PV is really a Fuckwit who believes that, by repeating lies, they become the
truth. While he implements propaganda practices he probably learnt from
Lenin, PV actually spams this newsgroup in the most obnoxious way.
Meanwhile, the archive of his lies is growing! Thank you Google.
Euro
Reilly
news:431fbc0148ccb0ad...@news.meganetnews.com...
And on the 8th day, God invented Killfiles...
Euro, if PV shits you, just plonk and forget. :-)
A Planet Visitor
>Not that many would be interested anyway, but I have the pleasure to
>announce today that PV has copied and posted more than 160 times (161
>exactly) the same lies and distorted quotes about me.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
>
Poor euro... thank you very much for admitting that I have posted your same
lies 160 times. I have always claimed that much of your posts are lies, and
distortions, and I am gratified to see that you now admit to it. Since I have
only posted your EXACT words... it seems that you now are afraid to face
them... and need to call your own words -- lies.
>PV is really a Fuckwit
Poor euro... reduced to copying from his MESSIAH... and unable to
articulate without depending upon obscene mindless drivel.
> who believes that, by repeating lies,
Yes.. I do believe in repeating your lies... over and over. Since you have
refuted not a single one of them. Nor even addressed them, to my
satisfaction, which is presumably what we do here.
> they become the
>truth. While he implements propaganda practices he probably learnt from
>Lenin, PV actually spams this newsgroup in the most obnoxious way.
>Meanwhile, the archive of his lies is growing! Thank you Google.
>
Poor euro. Actually an entire post in which he says -- exactly nothing.
Oh... wait... there was that admission that he posts lies.. and is irritated
that I repeat them here. The best thing for you, euro. Is to stop lying...
and then I won't have any of your lies to repeat for the enlightenment
of AADP.
PV
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmicks_index.html
>Euro
>
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 166 of my posting some
very destructive comments from euro, providing the exact words,
a link to those words, and my opinion of those words. Not one
of which he has refuted. Nor can anyone show that any word of
mine is a lie.--
[1] Your words --
"At least, Goebbels was polite in his propaganda" See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d8232deaf4cfd86aa600b816fd947ca8%40news.meganetnews.com
[2] In an absolutely conflicted assortment of Machiavellian, ignominious,
disingenuous, feckless, sophistic, and offensive, double-speak nonsense.
ALL IN ONE POST. Your words --
"I made a claim of principle, that families have nothing to do with justice."
"Justice concerns also the families of victims and murderers."
"justice should, on the contrary, be compassion for the murderer's family"
"hence the feelings of the victims' families should not be instrumentalized to
justify a harder penalty;"
"the tears from one side (the victims' family) cannot be compensated
by the tears from another side (the murderers' family)."
"I never alluded to pity for murderers, but to pity for the murderers'
families." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=98ecf84d186fb6f02671ac97f3157aec%40news.meganetnews.com
[3] Your words --
"because murderers are HUMANE, whether you like it or not."
"But since murderers are humane..."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=5bfda818764410613bc12ca4df5b16ba%40meganetnews.com
[4] Your words --
"Do you find that John Wayne Gacy is an animal who does not enjoy the
same human rights as you do?" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=a5ccea6e7e4217cf160862d1c39b026740news.meganetnews.com
You stated "And that is true." In reply to the question of John Wayne Gacy
having the same 'human rights' as any innocent person. See -
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=40383cc79857308eb110320ca87bc907%40news.meganetnews.com
[5] When choosing between abolishing the DP and 'saving' all murderers from the
DP, or abolishing slavery and freeing all slaves in a society that practices both --
Your words --
"That would lead me to the conclusion that I should abolish death penalty."
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=c80a9ef0a3cea5a2e77e8fc9f80eb05d%40news.meganetnews.com
[6] In your arrogant claims that you, in your God-like belief in your own
infallibility, can DEFINE for everyone what are "great moral qualities."
While every rational person recognizes that 'morality' is not an absolute.
Yet YOU would DEFINE as a RC Cardinal who wants to elevate an executed
murderer to a role which would demand that millions refer to that murderer
as BLESSED -- Your words --
"You will also note that Lustiger is, in France, one of the prominent
activists for the beatification of Jacques Flesch, sentenced to death and
executed in France in 1957 for the murder of a police officer following a
bungled robbery.
http://www.catholicdigest.org/stories/200108106a.html
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to stress the great moral qualities of
Lustiger" See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dd7b24844c1b79d34bac9efbb48e2fcd%40news.meganetnews.com
Of course, then entering DENIAL... as usual, you denied even writing
those words... when you posted "I didn't claim that "it is moral to beatify a
murderer". Along with you again DEFINING 'moral values' for the rest of
all humans, in your delusion that God whispers in your ear... with your
words -- "Lustiger's moral values are famous"
Apparently you find Lustiger 'moral' for supporting what you believe is
an 'immoral' effort. But given that you've never been able to express any
comment without offering a contradiction immediately following that
comment... your belief that God speaks to you in defining 'moral' is
understandable. You simply have some psychotic problems.. See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=f5d5c01cdcd2d3e4a4c30acf8ac75602%40news.meganetnews.com
[7] Your words in speaking of 'Collective guilt.' --
"This word is one of the concepts on which West Germany was built."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a7f4c90ad29d61171fb19a75c4359d6%40news.meganetnews.com
Using the expression that "It targets the whole German population."
How bigoted can you be, euro?
[8] In speaking of the death penalty -- "I actually don't believe in improvements,
and, so far, in spite of all the "improvement" proposals, I have not seen
anything that exclude the possbility for innocents to be executed." See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=58403db4127cd882b02e97a39cc2820f%40news.meganetnews.com
Apparently, you would sacrifice any who might not be executed with any
improvements... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support of
YOUR agenda. How very similar to your willingness to sacrifice all
innocent slaves... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support of
YOUR agenda.
[9] Implying that pity should not be felt for those deprived of their human
rights in the holocaust... because in your words --
"Human rights have nothing to do with pity." See --
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=531e0a6fc371e8f5745ae1c2ba15fd4d%40news.meganetnews.com
[10] And of course.. another of the 'great ones' from you -- "I don't think one
makes much progress by separating non murderers (the good ones) and
murderers (the evil ones)." Apparently... you conclude that we should not
even bother having a justice system which separates the murderer from the
non-murderer. See --
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2706c22e2c8c73ebbd818d20b986abb%40news.meganetnews.com
A Planet Visitor
>Reilly <lift@horizon> wrote ...
>
>>> Not that many would be interested anyway, but I have the pleasure to
>>> announce today that PV has copied and posted more than 160 times (161
>>> exactly) the same lies and distorted quotes about me.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
>>>
>>> PV is really a Fuckwit who believes that, by repeating lies, they become
>>> the truth. While he implements propaganda practices he probably learnt
>>> from Lenin, PV actually spams this newsgroup in the most obnoxious way.
>>> Meanwhile, the archive of his lies is growing! Thank you Google.
>
>> And on the 8th day, God invented Killfiles...
>>
>> Euro, if PV shits you, just plonk and forget. :-)
>
>This is the option that would suit FuckWit the best. He is, after all, on
>record in google as stating that it is only when a poster killfiles, that
>he is able to get the upper hand on that poster ...
>
> 'The best times of my presence here... were those moments when Desmond
> had me in his killfile (heh). I could spank him at will..'
>
>url:http://www.google.fr/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=n57nrv8om29m7pu5q0f0u652hp7fimev8d%404ax.com&lr=&hl=fr
>
Quite true... Now I have to spank you over and over for the same obscenity
you provide... since you always answer my present spankings with simply
another obscenity. It was much simpler when I only needed to spank you
for your self-destructive obscenity once.
>So killfiling FuckWit, would give him the 'victory' that is denied to him
>in every post to which we respond.
>
Poor Desmond... I spank you... not in victory... but in pity for you. Pity
because you are so obscene that you self-destruct, making it a trivial but
time-consuming task, because of your all-consuming hate for me. It is
my duty to spank you... as reluctantly as I enter into that duty... because
of the pity that I hold for those such as you.
>I killfiled him before; I shan't do so again. Truth, justice and human
>decency demand that I destroy him again, and again, and again,
Poor Desmond... how many times must I tell you... I'm not Jewish. Those
are the only humans that you would hope to destroy by depriving them
of truth, justice and human decency. Oh... wait... you're right... you
would try to physically destroy me... going to 'beat me up' with your
Tae-Kwon-Do, if you ever happen to see my name publicly. Just as
you have expressed a desire to physically destroy every retentionist -- See
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_150.html
> until old
>age takes him, and he can no longer spread his lies and poison onto
>news:alt.activism.death-penalty. I suspect (but cannot speak for anyone
>but myself) that Euro's motives in responding to him, are similar.
>
Poor Desmond ... I already know your 'motives.' That's why I'm here.. to
expose them for you spitting in the face of MLK in your racism... and you
declaring that you find everything "legal" in murdering six million innocent
human beings. Be afraid, Desmond... be very afraid.
PV
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmicks_index.html
>--
>He Who 'Is' Scum
Reilly
news:h1b1g1-...@zeouane.org...
> Reilly <lift@horizon> wrote ...
> > And on the 8th day, God invented Killfiles...
> >
> > Euro, if PV shits you, just plonk and forget. :-)
>
> This is the option that would suit FuckWit the best. He is, after all, on
> record in google as stating that it is only when a poster killfiles, that
> he is able to get the upper hand on that poster ...
>
> 'The best times of my presence here... were those moments when Desmond
> had me in his killfile (heh). I could spank him at will..'
> So killfiling FuckWit, would give him the 'victory' that is denied to him
> in every post to which we respond.
I regard "victory" as an illusory concept in a forum such as this. When it
amuses me, I read here. When it starts to bore me, I do other things. If
I took the time to read PV's posts (let alone reply to them!), I'd be lucky
if I lasted 48 hours before leaving.
> Truth, justice and human decency demand that I destroy
> him again, and again, and again, until old age takes him,
> and he can no longer spread his lies and poison
Cripes!
:-)
Euro
"A Planet Visitor" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
news:n8t0309i5jn88hjti...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:32:16 GMT, "Euro" <vs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Not that many would be interested anyway, but I have the pleasure to
> >announce today that PV has copied and posted more than 160 times (161
> >exactly) the same lies and distorted quotes about me.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
> >
> Poor euro... thank you very much for admitting that I have posted your
same
> lies 160 times.
There's a small nuance here: you have posted THE same lies 160 times, and
actually more than that as you keep doing so.
For the archive of PV spamming: http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
Euro
A Planet Visitor
Poor euro... that itself is simply another of your lies. Since my quotes of your
words are absolutely accurate to a fault. Purposely so... in order that it
will leave you a quivering mass of guilt.. and denial. There is not a single
comma that you can argue is out of place in any quotes of your words I
provide. And each is accompanied by a URL to your words, for anyone
wishing to examine them. The fact that I provide my opinion of your words
is simply my 'right' in AADP, and cannot in any way be argued is a lie.
Or would you presume in a fascist-like argument that AADP is not a place
to 'express opinions' of what others say here? You simply are unable to
address your own words... and I pity you for that. And pity you for lying
by contending they are not your words and the links to the exact comments
in which you provided those words.
>For the archive of PV spamming: http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
You mean the number of times I have posted your exact words, and
the URLs to those words. And you call it 'spamming.' In other words...
it is 'spamming' when I quote you accurately. Well, let me then say...
that it is you lying when you claim that I do not quote you accurately.
Here they are again, tell me where I have misquoted you in 'spamming.'
Pick one... any one... and tell me where I have misquoted you.
While I'm still waiting the answer to the question -- Using your 'personal
ethical standard' - Was it legal to kill Jews in WW II?
"yes" or "no"
Of course... I answered "NO," It was not. Thus, if I can answer in a
"yes" or "no" 'personal ethical standard' framework.. I see no reason that
you cannot. Or I must presume that you have no 'personal ethical
standard' you can use to answer that question. I've used mine... where
is yours?
PV
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmicks_index.html
>
>Euro
Ummm... for those 'keeping count' this is 173 of my posting some
very destructive comments from euro, providing the exact words,
a link to those words, and my opinion of those words. Not one
of which he has refuted. --
A Planet Visitor
<fucko...@zeouane.org> wrote:
>A Planet 'Nazi Bastard' Visitor <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote ...
>
>>>Not that many would be interested anyway, but I have the pleasure to
>>>announce today that PV has copied and posted more than 160 times (161
>>>exactly) the same lies and distorted quotes about me.
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2sk8z
>
>> Poor euro... thank you very much for admitting that I have posted your
>> same lies 160 times.
>
>{ snip FuckWit claiming victory [1] }
>
Hardly... he is the one who claimed that his exact words are 'lies,' since his
exact words are certainly what I have posted. His EXACT words and links
to those EXACT words. I simply noted sarcastically that he admits they are
lies. Although I have never claimed they were, before he admitted to that.
To be clear... the comments I post from euro are not considered 'lies,' since
they represent his 'opinions' which I provide for others to examine. For
example -- the very first... regarding his belief that "Goebbels was polite in
his propaganda." Of course that is his OPINION... and I cannot call it a 'lie.'
Neo-Nazis and you, have the same opinion. The opinion that demagoguery
can be 'polite.' Or that you find his views not demagoguery. Which means
you find these words of his -- 'polite.' --
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb1.htm
Titled "The Jews are Guilty." Goebbels stating that the Jews are guilty
for WW II.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb37.htm
Titled "The War and the Jews." In which Goebbels predicts that the
Jews will not survive the war.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb64.htm
Titled "The Creator's of the World's Misfortune." In which Goebbels
names the Jews as that 'creator,' and gives hints of the holocaust.
>> [1] "At least, Goebbels was polite in his propaganda"
>
<clip rest of 'opinions' from euro that euro has called his 'lies'>
>Most of the above can be placed firmly in the category of 'wilful
>misrepresentations' by FuckWit. However, let's look at one or two of them
>...
>
>> [5] When choosing between abolishing the DP and 'saving' all murderers
>> from the DP, or abolishing slavery and freeing all slaves in a society
>> that practices both -- Your words -- "That would lead me to the
>> conclusion that I should abolish death penalty."
>> http://www.google.com/groups?selm=c80a9ef0a3cea5a2e77e8fc9f80eb05d%40news.meganetnews.com
>
>In what way is this a 'lie' ?
>
I never said it was a lie, other than mimicking his admission that they were.
In fact he is a liar for claiming that I posted lies... since they are HIS WORDS,
and not MY lies. Nor have I said they were lies from him... until he rather
admitted that they were. He is the only one who has claimed his own words
are lies. In fact, I never even bothered to draw a conclusion in the way of
my opinion regarding those words, in that particular comment. My opinion,
of course, is that he is a miserable swine who values a few proven murderers
more than he does millions of innocent slaves. And then tried to justify that by
claiming that it would be 'easier' to abolish slavery than the DP, so he would
abolish the 'harder choice.' Given that the U.S. fought a civil war, with the
loss of more than a half-million lives in protests over abolishing slavery, and I do
not know of a single life lost in protests over abolishing the DP for proven
murderers, I find his comment not only disgusting, and dishonorable.. but
downright unbelievable, and impossible to justify in any argument But you
will see I made no statement of that, nor did I call his words a lie. They are
simply HIS WORDS... EXACT.
>> [8] In speaking of the death penalty -- "I actually don't believe in
>> improvements, and, so far, in spite of all the "improvement" proposals, I
>> have not seen anything that exclude the possbility for innocents to be
>> executed." See --
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=58403db4127cd882b02e97a39cc2820f%40news.meganetnews.com
>> Apparently, you would sacrifice any who might not be executed with any
>> improvements... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support of
>> YOUR agenda. How very similar to your willingness to sacrifice all
>> innocent slaves... simply to justify your sadistic nature, in the support
>> of YOUR agenda.
>
>How is this a 'lie' ?
>
Once again.. I did not say it was a lie. This time I did provide my opinion of
his words, but his words are not a lie. They are simply among the most
ignorant sounding assembly of disgusting drivel I can imagine (aside from every
word you post, of course), IMO. That is my 'opinion,' sport. Of course,
NOTHING excludes the possibility of innocents being found guilt, without
completely dismantling the entire concept of the Justice system, and the
idea that 'crime carries consequences' in respect to our civilized society.
Such an argument suggests that since we cannot determine 'absolute guilt,'
there is no such thing... so trying to ascertain it is fruitless and
counterproductive... and the criminals and murderers -- WIN.
IMO, to presume that is 'justification' to abolish the DP is quite absurd,
since it argues that we should abolish the justice system itself, given that
possibility always exists. But it seems absurd to me to argue that he
does not wish improvements to be made which might offer a greater
certainty that innocents are NOT executed. It seems to me that he is
'willing to sacrifice' innocents who might be executed without such
improvements... simply to satisfy his own selfish agenda. Taken to
the end idea... it seems to me that he would RELISH an innocent
being executed... simply so he can say -- 'I told you so.' Of course I
find the same motivation in your posting history. That's not very 'noble'
IMO. But his words do not constitute any lie... they are simply his
blind opinion, IMO.
>FuckWit, your problem is that along with 'anti-Semitism', you use the word
>'liar' to demonise your opponent.
Poor Desmond -- you will see that euro called them lies. I was being
sarcastic in remarking that he had called them lies. In fact, euro called
his own words lies... because he is subconsciously ashamed of them...
but is too ego-driven to ever admit that. You will not find any words
from me that call his EXACT words 'lies,' until he, himself, called them
"lies and distorted quotes..."
> In the above cases, however, whilst I
>don't doubt for a second that you've i) snipped out of context or ii)
>actually modified the 'quote' (sic), knowing that no one will bother to
>click on the URL and check it, the fact remains that you're posting
>_opinions_.
Of course I am... I have always claimed I was... until euro CALLED
THEM -- "lies and distorted quotes." Do you still have that reading
problem? I have only referred to YOUR outright lies, in some of your
comments.
http://tinyurl.com/ytjml
>
>How can 'opinions' be 'lies', FuckWit ?
>
They cannot be. Of course, some may hold that they have an 'opinion,' which
is a lie. But that is not an 'opinion,' but a lie. Such as you having the 'opinion'
that no 72-year-old men were executed in Auschwitz... which is not an 'opinion'
but a proven lie.
>[1] url:http://www.zeouane.org/peinedemort/gimmicks/68.html
Poor Desmond -- Always remember -- "PV is right." See -
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/desmond_gimmick_2.html