WHY DO THE MUSLIMS BOW DOWN TO THE KA'ABA IN THEIR PRAYER ?????????????

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Nov 19, 2011, 6:50:46 AM11/19/11
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WHY DO THE MUSLIMS BOW DOWN TO THE KA'ABA IN THEIR PRAYER?

why do the Muslims bow down to the Ka'aba in Their Prayer? When Islam
is against idol worship why do the Muslims bow down to the Ka'abah in
Their Prayer Kabah is the cubical structure in the city of Mecca,
which Muslims face at the time of their prayers. Ka'abah is the Qiblah
i.e. the direction Muslims face during their prayers. It is important
to note that though Muslims face the Ka'abah during prayers, they do
not worship the Ka'abah. Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah. It
is mentioned in Surah Baqarah: "We see the turning of thy face (for
guidance) to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that
shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the Sacred
Mosque: wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction." [Al-
Qur'ân 2:144] 1. Islam believes in fostering unity For instance, if
Muslims want to offer Salaah (Prayer), it is possible that some may
wish to face north, while some may wish to face south. In order to
unite Muslims in their worship of the One True God, Muslims, wherever
they may be, are asked to face in only one direction i.e. towards the
Ka'abah. If some Muslims live towards the west of the Ka'abah they
face the east. Similarly if they live towards the east of the Ka'abah
they face the west. 2. Ka'abah is at the Center of the World Map The
Muslims were the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew
the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba
was at the center. Later, western cartographers drew the map upside
down with the north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet,
Alhamdullilah the Ka'abah is at the center of the world map. 3. Tawaf
around Ka'abah for indicating one God When the Muslims go to Masjid-e-
Haram in Makkah, they perform tawaf or circumambulation round the
Ka'abah. This act symbolizes the belief and worship of One God, since,
just as every circle has one centre, so also there is only one Allah
(swt) worthy of worship. 4. Hadith of Umar (may Allaah be pleased with
him) Regarding the black stone, hajr-e-aswad, there is a Hadeeth
(tradition), attributed to the illustrious companion of the Prophet
Muhammed (pbuh), Umar (may Allah be pleased with him). According to
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, book of Hajj, chapter 56, H.No. 675. Umar
(may Allah be pleased with him) said, "I know that you are a stone and
can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh)
touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed)
you". 5. People stood on Ka'abah and gave the adhaan At the time of
the Prophet, people even stood on the Ka'abah and gave the ‘adhaan’ or
the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims worship
the Ka'abah; which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships? 6.
Which direction is Kabah? Muslims try to find out which direction the
Kabah is, in order to face while performing their prayers. Yet if they
were not sure which direction is it then they should pray to the
direction where they would suppose to be the correct one. Had they
been worshipping Kabah itself, it would be unrealistic that they would
be allowed to do their prayers any way even though they are not facing
the correct direction of Kabah. But because they worship God and not
the Kabah, they are allowed to worship even if they did not know to
which direction to turn, because there will always be…God; "It is not
righteousness that ye turn your faces towards East or West; but it is
righteousness- to believe in God and the Last Day, and…" The Holy
Quran (2.177)


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http://www.beconvinced.com

http://islamtomorrow.com

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http://www.dar-us-salam.com

http://youtubeislam.com

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Nov 24, 2011, 10:41:49 AM11/24/11
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On Nov 19, 6:50 am, BV <bv5bv5...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> WHY DO THE MUSLIMS BOW DOWN TO THE KA'ABA IN THEIR PRAYER?
>
What a shitty punchline.

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 24, 2011, 11:20:26 AM11/24/11
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The Muslims are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza, they're not happy in Egypt, they're not happy
in Libya, they're not happy in Morocco, they're not happy in Iran,
they're not happy in Iraq, they're not happy in Yemen, they're not happy
in Afghanistan, they're not happy in Pakistan, they're not happy in
Syria, they're not happy in Lebanon.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in England, they're happy in France, they're happy in
Italy, they're happy in Germany, they're happy in Sweden, they're happy
in the USA, they're happy in Norway, they're happy in every country that
is not Muslim.

And who do they blame?

Not Islam, not their leadership, not themselves.

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

Let's have a look at the evidence:

No Christmas, no television, no nude women, no football, no pork chops,
no hotdogs, no burgers, no beer, no bacon, rags for clothes, towels for
hats, constant wailing from some idiot in a tower, more than one wife,
more than one mother-in-law, you can't shave, your wife can't shave, you
can't wash off the smell of donkey, you wipe your ass with your hand,
you cook over burning camel shyt, your wife is picked by someone else,
your wife smells worse than your donkey,

Then they tell you that "when you die, it all gets better".

No shyt Sherlock! It's not like it could get much worse!

--
Jimmy Alpha GED
The opinions expressed here are those of James Alpha, and should not be
mistaken as medical or religious advice, even tho the opinions could be
used as such.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 24, 2011, 11:37:27 AM11/24/11
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Rod wrote:
> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> > No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> > still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> > you advice as sightwalker.
>
> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.

Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
faith (evidence of that which is unseen for which he has hope) and not
by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen to
determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
advice to anyone via Usenet.

Thus, Jimmy calling this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer )
sightwalker is a lie as is his proclamation that you have been
receiving advice from him.

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2fdccf898019a85?

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3d568c9dd585bbd7?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for the
heart:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth -
Only the truth can cure the 'hunger is starvation' delusion:"
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Truth-hunger-starvation-delusion/dp/1440147663/

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 24, 2011, 11:45:28 AM11/24/11
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On 11/24/2011 11:37 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> Rod wrote:
>> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>
>>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
>>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
>>> you advice as sightwalker.
>>
>> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
>
> Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> faith (evidence of that which is unseen for which he has hope) and not
> by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen to
> determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> advice to anyone via Usenet.

Poor sightwalker, I'll bet you showed so much promise, and I'm sure you
were the apple of your mother's eye? How does the family now explain
your insanity?

> Thus, Jimmy calling this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer )
> sightwalker is a lie as is his proclamation that you have been
> receiving advice from him.

Calling you sightwalker is in no way a lie, you asked me if I could say
"Jesus is Lord", I replied how I could. You andypoo wouldn't take my
word for it and had to be shown. I then called your hot line and greeted
you as "sightwalker" and recorded "Jesus is Lord" for your faithless
ear. My salutations can be found here on the main page of sightwalkers
sight[sic] http://wdjw.net/ under "Jimmy Alpha".

> "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
> in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

That's not a revelation sightwalker, "it is appointed unto men once to
die" -- Holy BIBLE, written under the direction of the Holy Spirit 2000
plus years ago.

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Nov 24, 2011, 8:34:40 PM11/24/11
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On Nov 24, 7:41 am, myface spacebook <bellyfl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> What a shitty punchline.

LOL!

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Nov 24, 2011, 9:15:41 PM11/24/11
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On Nov 24, 8:45 am, "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy_al...@operamail.com>
wrote:

>
>  > "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
>  > in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit
>
> That's not a revelation sightwalker,  "it is appointed unto men once to
> die" -- Holy BIBLE, written under the direction of the Holy Spirit 2000
> plus years ago.

That's hardly the point, Jimmy. Andrew B. Chung is the only one with
the authority to post prophesies, pronouncements and proclamations of
cruses, death and eternal condemnation.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2011, 6:57:20 AM11/25/11
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Rod wrote:
> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> > No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> > still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> > you advice as sightwalker.
>
> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.

Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
faith (evidence of that which is unseen for which he has hope) and not
by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen to
determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
advice to anyone via Usenet.

Thus, Jimmy calling this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer )
sightwalker is a lie as is his proclamation that you have been
receiving advice from him.

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 25, 2011, 8:03:36 AM11/25/11
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It's sad how sightwalker being of high intellect is seen as a bumbling
buffoon by so many. He must know something is amiss with his thinking?
But of course I'm betting he takes his tribulations as a sign of being
well pleasing to the Lord much like Job?

It might help if he was in a good church where he'd learn of the
dispensations of God, and not mix them as he's doing too?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 1:19:55 AM11/26/11
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Rod wrote:
> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>
> > No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> > still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> > you advice as sightwalker.
>
> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.

Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are
unseen to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific
medical advice to anyone via Usenet.

Thus, Jimmy calling this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer )
sightwalker is a lie as is his proclamation that you have been
receiving advice from him.

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 1:36:15 AM11/26/11
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On Nov 25, 5:03 am, "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy_al...@operamail.com>
wrote:
> On 11/24/2011 9:15 PM, Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 8:45 am, "Jimmy Alpha; GED"<jimmy_al...@operamail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>   >  "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
> >>   >  in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit
>
> >> That's not a revelation sightwalker,  "it is appointed unto men once to
> >> die" -- Holy BIBLE, written under the direction of the Holy Spirit 2000
> >> plus years ago.
>
> > That's hardly the point, Jimmy. Andrew B. Chung is the only one with
> > the authority to post prophesies, pronouncements and proclamations of
> > cruses, death and eternal condemnation.
>
> It's sad how sightwalker being of high intellect is seen as a bumbling
> buffoon by so many.

Have you ever seen the TV show called "The Big Bang Theory"? It gives
a much more realistic portrayal of what a lot of PhD's are like, as
opposed to the pipe smoking Henry Higgins like professor. They're
often awkward, socially inept, lack self awareness, are thin skinned
and insecure.

> He must know something is amiss with his thinking?

Most likely Andrew's psyche translates that as everyone else's
thinking being amiss.

> But of course I'm betting he takes his tribulations as a sign of being
> well pleasing to the Lord much like Job?
>
> It might help if he was in a good church where he'd learn of the
> dispensations of God, and not mix them as he's doing too?

Bingo. He most likely sees us as being sent by Satan to test and
torment him. And he's been rewarded tremendously with Heavenly rewards
for withstanding and enduring all the persecution he's received.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Nov 26, 2011, 2:52:54 AM11/26/11
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On 11/26/2011 1:19 AM, sightwalker witha phd said:
> Rod wrote:
>> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>
>>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
>>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
>>> you advice as sightwalker.
>>
>> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
>
> Moreover, this physician ( http://WWJD.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> hope) and not by sight

You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

(as evident by his testing spirits which are
> unseen to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific
> medical advice to anyone via Usenet.

The quote was "advice", not "specific advice", you missed the mark
again. We all know what missing the mark is sightwalker, do you?

> Thus, Jimmy calling this physician ( http://WWJD.net/Healer )
> sightwalker is a lie as is his proclamation that you have been
> receiving advice from him.

I have only said to a phone "sightwalker" one time, all the other times
I wrote "sightwalker" as a description of how you are, and how you
treated me as a Christian. Writing is not calling names, calling is done
with the mouth. That sightwalker is a fact you taught me.

> "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
> in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

“It is appointed unto men once to die; but after this the judgment.”
Hebrews 9:27 I quote the Bible for which you call a curse on me? If I
were you sightwalker I'd heed this advice, check your walk with the Lord
for missing the mark on that.

Andypoo look at this;
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment;"

And now the best part of the passage;
"so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
look for Him shall He appear the second time apart from sin, unto
salvation."

Perhaps this is the "way that will be meaningful to all", that I lowly
Jimmy Alpha will be transformed from sin?

Isn't it interesting what you posted as a pox is turning out a comfort?
Get right with God Andy and you too *may* have this joy?

Jimmy Alpha GeD

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 5:47:38 AM11/26/11
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possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Rod wrote:
> >> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
> >>
> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
> >
> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> > advice to anyone via Usenet.
>
> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
Jimmy.

Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
from Him for the latter:

http://T3WiJ.com

Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
Him in faith instead of walking with you who have been cursed by Him:

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

May GOD have mercy on your soul, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth.

Amen.

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 7:20:00 AM11/26/11
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On Nov 26, 2:47 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> > You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> > writing, hence you are a sightwalker.
>
> Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
> Jimmy.
>
> Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
> from Him for the latter:

We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from
God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the
spirit of error. 1 John 4:5-7

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 7:33:01 AM11/26/11
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someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:

> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
> blotted from God's Book of Life?

The reason is simply lying to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to
the Holy Spirit:

"Then Peter (in the Holy Spirit) said, 'Ananias, how is it that satan
has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and
have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold,
wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a
thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to GOD.' When
Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all
who heard what had happened." (Acts 5:3-5)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29b32e2446470998?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> <burp> we had a Thanksgiving buffet at the fellowship I attend Sunday
> eve, and I'm still feeling the effects.
>
> I'd like to see Doc Andy at one of those, holding up the line by
> weighing each portion of turkey and trimmings while making his
> calculations

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52ff4b8b4947454c?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) weighs his meal (not
individual food items) right before giving thanks to the LORD for the
**amount** in ounces that He has provided:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/WDJW/196255898065

Just as the "hunger is starvation" lie (Genesis 25:32) caused Esau to
be accursed (Malachi 1:2-3) to the Nth generation so that they've all
been blotted out of GOD's Book of Life the same has happened to
you ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

Great Sage Itchy

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Nov 26, 2011, 7:46:04 AM11/26/11
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Usenet CREEP WARNING € Usenet CREEP WARNING €Usenet CREEP WARNING
ARROGANT SPAMMING ASSHOLE Andrew B. Chung is INSANE. Totally INSANE.
He is a Supreme Egoist. He has NO spirituality, he is nothing but EGO.
All EGO all the time. ZERO spirituality. His condition is PERMANENT,
there is NO CURE.

Opposites Attract...
It is quite common for such people (the totally egocentric) to be
attracted to that which is opposite from them, Jesus and spirituality.
But camels will fly through the eye of a needle and cows will jump over
the moon before even a glint of the Holy Spirit enters the body of a
total EGOIST like Chung. Chung is extremely arrogant, self-righteous,
and delusional. Such people are evil and DANGEROUS. Stay far away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

DO NOT FEED SICK ASSHOLE TROLLS.
There is NOTHING anyone can do for Chung. His condition is far beyond
any help. A diamond hard egoist, like Chung, is "always right", and
everyone else is "always wrong" in the delusional world they live in.
Soon enough, such defective people are cleaned from this world, usually
by violence or horrible disease. Such people are DANGEROUS, stay far
away.
€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€WARNING€€

SEE EXAMPLES BELOW:

Totally ARROGANT EXTREME "Christian" EGOIST Chung FIRED again...
Ordered to leave or be removed by the POLICE!! - From a Church!!!
(nobody likes a totally arrogant, insane, self-righteous asshole/creep)
Transcript:

"Andrew Chung, my name is John Day and I'm the director of security at
First Baptist Church Woodstock (Georgia). Andrew, I need to inform you
that you're not allowed to come back to our campus. I don't want you to
show up this weekend, I don't want you to come back, okay? That's the
decision we're making today. And you need to know if you do come back,
we'll remove you from the property and beyond that, if you come back, I
will call the police. Andrew, lets allow this to end peacefully. Allow
it to end right now. Thank you and have a good day."

Chung video response ("GodTube"):
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=JEBB9CNU

First Baptist Church of Woodstock
Pastor Johnny M. Hunt
11905 Georgia 92
Woodstock, GA 30188
(770) 926-4428
u...@fbcw.net
www.fbcw.org
Twitter: @fbcwoodstock
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_18809369051
--------------------------------------

Chung FIRED after 80 days employment at the Central Florida Heart
Center (CFHC) by head of Cardiology: Dr. Frank Hildner MD:

Dr. Frank Hildner MD wrote the following letter to Andrew B. Chung:

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are
the only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable
person seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that
is out of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I
have in the past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the
situation from outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation
suffers more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can
call on physicians from around the world and this community to attest
to it. I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team
player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter
lightly. Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of
my professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either
me or the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less than optimum cardiology. Once
again, if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened
yet) I will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine
for a hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a
censure, that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your
next and all future applications for licensure. And once again, just
common sense should tell you that hitting back in your situation is
counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you
may have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have
no common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a
professional community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did
before, you do not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may
be, must be according to the community standard, regardless of what you
perceive that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that
you were unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly
and clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work
with your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your
future which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of
hitting back and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks
upon such attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will
continue to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you
talked yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
Central Florida Heart Ctr
3310 SW 34th St
Ocala, FL


WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT ANDREW B. CHUNG:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Chung fucked me in the ass. I trusted him, and he fucked me in the
ass." -Michael C.
"Chung Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and
only job after just over 80 days. Fled the state of Florida, and now
claims to practice in Georgia despite having no admission priveliges in
the State's hospitals." -Shlomo F.
"Chung runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa
$200, the ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its
website. Visiting said website will infect your PC." -S.F.
"Chung promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that
he demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the "Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud", where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover*
onto food. (*Acetone - extremely destructive to the nervous sys.)
"Declares he has a cardiology practice despite cross-posting the same
spam night and day (as often as 24 times a day) from the same IP
address (his home presumably).'
"Chung has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women and gay or
trans-gender males. His wife of four months fled some time ago to
another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being on
vacation".
"Everyone familiar with Andrew B. Chung knows he is a sick asshole.
Even his parents. He knows he is a sick asshole (street term for
EGOIST). There is NOTHING "spiritual" about him. He has absolutely NO
HOPE of real spirituality. In fact, he is the opposite of spirituality,
ALL EGO, and NOTHING BUT EGO. Chung has no real friends, and never
will. No one wants to be around a TOTAL ASSHOLE. His only hope is to
try to learn how real humans behave by observation, then pretend to be
like them. He will always be a total asshole, but he will learn to hide
it and fake being a real human. He will not fool a real human for long,
but will have something that resembles a human life. There is no other
way for him. His condition (total arrogance) is permanent. His life
will go badly, and end ugly. A total egoist, like Chung, will NEVER
admit to any imperfection, but Chung knows that most of this is true."
-GSI
"Another very sad lunatic ranting garbage he knows nothing about..
wasting his life in vanity and thinking anybody cares or even bothers
to read his garbage." -G. Snow
"Chung, the people you arrogantly attack here in these groups are
saints compared to you. You are a supreme EGOIST. You do not qualify
for human status, and never will. Even dogs or pigs are higher than
you. You should be living with crocodiles. Stay away from these groups.
Your total ARROGANCE is ugly and disgusting. It's highly disturbing to
be constantly reminded that this world produces such sick and arrogant
creeps." - Great Sage Itchy
Chung wrote: "retired physician and cardiac patient Frank Hildner wrote
in part as a retireeŠ" and Ecifer responded: "The good doctor
(Hildner) is recognized as one of the preeminent cardiologists in the
world, while Chunk is flailing away on Usenet with no practice and no
hospital admitting privileges."

The sayings of Andrew B. Chung, Emory University:
--------------------------------------------------------------
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3). Can you say 'Jesus is LORD'? Can you also say 'Muhammad was a
goat-fucking son of SATAN?'
"This gentile Christian disciple reminds friends that the name 'Quran',
as translated from original Arabic, means: 'Goat-fucking for dummies' "
"We are running in a competitive race that has already been won by the
risen Christ Jesus, Who because of His victory sits at the right hand
of GOD the Father. The prize for running this race well is a place in
Heaven that is closer to GOD. Heaven is a very large place and GOD's
House in Heaven is a very big house. Let our place in Heaven not be
outside the House." -Andrew B. Chung
"It has been the observation of this bona-fide licensed physician that
negros are actually big monkeys with large sex organs."
"The LORD may possibly give us a sign 3 weeks from today (1/23/2010) to
further humble us as He did back in 9/11/2001. GOD is awesome. Fear the
LORD and dread nought else." -Andrew B. Chung
"And you and the other evildoers have been tossed into that lake of
fire that has been prepared for you while the rest of us are enjoying a
new Heaven and new Earth in our new glorified bodies like those of
angels." - Andrew B. Chung
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote: "May GOD curse to the Nth generation
all the real humans who presently know the identity of the person
behind the lying sockpuppet here, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen. Laus Deo :-) "
"Death to the Godless imperialist war-mongers of the Communist Party of
China."
"Death to the fascist bandit Hu Jintao, and his running dogs, the
Communist Party of China."
"Death to the murderer Deng Xiaoping, of Hu Yaobang and Chinese freedom.
Freedom for the people of Tibet - Long live the Dali Lama"

"May GOD annihilate you at your keyboard if you try to pretend to be
Him again, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen." -Andrew B.
Chung

"Chung-First Baptist Church-Police" v1.7
----------------------------------------------------------------
Chung on YouTube:
-------------------------
Runaway Groom... The story of Chung's wedding:
Lady-boy Chung's wedding is broken-up by his former gay lover,
who runs off with the groom, leaving Chung (white wedding dress) in the
lurch.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJr-n0B1r3w

--------------------------
Part-1
Lady-boy, "Dongdan" (Cross-dresser) Videos
Andrew B Chung *****: Hot date make-up tutorial!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__Iv8FQdYY

Part-2 Chung (AKA "Ms. High Heels") ready for action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7H_M-APuak
--------------------------

Chung (rated 5-stars): His most revealing photoshoot ever!
(With very nice jungle (drum and bass) soundtrack)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEdGAd4RB4
----------------------------------------------------------------

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 26, 2011, 10:35:00 AM11/26/11
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Isn't it sad to see sightwalker muddled, but sadder yet is he's making
that nice pilgrim *_Rod Eastman_* his star pupil of the addled school.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2011, 11:24:51 AM11/26/11
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possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Rod wrote:
> >> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
> >>
> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
> >
> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> > advice to anyone via Usenet.
>
> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/90cd2abfb107a1b5?

Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
Jimmy.

Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
from Him for the latter:

http://T3WiJ.com

Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
Him in faith instead of walking with you who have been cursed by Him:

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

May GOD have mercy on your soul, in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth.

Amen.

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 26, 2011, 1:49:34 PM11/26/11
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On 11/26/2011 11:24 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
Sightwalker, you can't steal the joy of my salvation, but we know who it
is that tries.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

A B

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Nov 28, 2011, 1:17:18 PM11/28/11
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"Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:jarcbu$pim$1...@news.datemas.de...
I'm not sure how this got into uk.people.support.mental-health.
--
A. B.
><>
My e-mail address is zen177395 at zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.
Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Nov 28, 2011, 3:22:12 PM11/28/11
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On 11/28/2011 1:17 PM, A B wrote:
> "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:jarcbu$pim$1...@news.datemas.de...
>> On 11/26/2011 11:24 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
>>> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> Sightwalker, you can't steal the joy of my salvation, but we know who
>> it is that tries.
>>
>> Jimmy Alpha GeD
>> The opinions expressed here are those of James Alpha, and should not
>> be mistaken as medical or religious advice, even tho the opinions
>> could be used as such.
>
> I'm not sure how this got into uk.people.support.mental-health.

It was me, it seems we in the colonies have failed with Andrew, so I
supposed the mother of our crazy country might care to see how awry we
have gone.

I'm sure Windows Mail supports killfiles, use it if offended by us US of
A kooks.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 1, 2011, 4:56:00 AM12/1/11
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possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Rod wrote:
> >> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
> >>
> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
> >>
> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
> >
> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
> > advice to anyone via Usenet.
>
> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/90cd2abfb107a1b5?

Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
Jimmy.

Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
from Him for the latter:

http://T3WiJ.com

Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and Elijah, who have
not ever died, instead of walking with you who have been cursed by
Him:

"Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2fdccf898019a85?

Suggested additional reading:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3d568c9dd585bbd7?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e6c24d253fa7dc2d?

May GOD have mercy on your soul, Jimmy, in the name of Jesus Christ of

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Dec 1, 2011, 7:52:49 AM12/1/11
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On 12/1/2011 4:56 AM, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:

All are unless are under His Wing.

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Rod wrote:
>> >> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> No, you'll die at some point, if it's next week or in 20 years you are
>> >>> still going to die and I'll have little to do with it as I'm not giving
>> >>> you advice as sightwalker.
>> >>
>> >> I'm taking my doctors advice. My doctor isn't Andrew.
>> >
>> > Moreover, this physician ( http://WW.net/HeartDoc ), who walks by
>> > faith (experiential evidence of that which is unseen for which he has
>> > hope) and not by sight (as evident by his testing spirits which are unseen
>> > to determine which ones are from GOD) does not give specific medical
>> > advice to anyone via Usenet.

That sweet Jimmy Alpha didn't say specific, or even medical.

>>
>> You said I must say "Jesus is Lord" to your ear, not just affirm in
>> writing, hence you are a sightwalker.
>
> Source:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/90cd2abfb107a1b5?
>
> Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
> Jimmy.

So true sightwalker.

> Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
> from Him for the latter:

Perhaps this the reason so few trust what you say here?

> http://TJ.com
>
> Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
> Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and Elijah, who have
> not ever died, instead of walking with you who have been cursed by
> Him:

Are you judging sightwalker? Jimmy has the same curse as all, "For there
is no respect of persons with God,". God does not show partiality as
told in Romans 2:11

> "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
> in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit

Writing the Bible anew andypoo?

Heb 9:27 "And just as each person is destined to die once and after that
comes judgment", I like all before me have the curse of Adam, as does
Enoch and Elijah, and as do the sightwalker too.

A B

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Dec 1, 2011, 12:27:09 PM12/1/11
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"Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:jb0qhl$a19$2...@news.datemas.de...
> On 11/28/2011 1:17 PM, A B wrote:
>> "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>> news:jarcbu$pim$1...@news.datemas.de...
>>> On 11/26/2011 11:24 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
>>>> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> Sightwalker, you can't steal the joy of my salvation, but we know who
>>> it is that tries.
>>>
>>> Jimmy Alpha GeD
>>> The opinions expressed here are those of James Alpha, and should not
>>> be mistaken as medical or religious advice, even tho the opinions
>>> could be used as such.
>>
>> I'm not sure how this got into uk.people.support.mental-health.
>
> It was me, it seems we in the colonies have failed with Andrew, so I
> supposed the mother of our crazy country might care to see how awry we
> have gone.
>
> I'm sure Windows Mail supports killfiles, use it if offended by us US of A
> kooks.

OK, I see - traditional crosspost-as-insult. Makes up most of uk.p.s.m's
traffic at the moment. I can't make out what it is you're arguing about,
but I hope you both enjoy it.

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Dec 1, 2011, 4:34:14 PM12/1/11
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On 12/1/2011 12:27 PM, A B wrote:
>
> "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:jb0qhl$a19$2...@news.datemas.de...
>> On 11/28/2011 1:17 PM, A B wrote:
>>> "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:jarcbu$pim$1...@news.datemas.de...
>>>> On 11/26/2011 11:24 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
>>>>> possibly (Mt 19:26) eternally condemned Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>>> Sightwalker, you can't steal the joy of my salvation, but we know who
>>>> it is that tries.
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy Alpha GeD
>>>> The opinions expressed here are those of James Alpha, and should not
>>>> be mistaken as medical or religious advice, even tho the opinions
>>>> could be used as such.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how this got into uk.people.support.mental-health.
>>
>> It was me, it seems we in the colonies have failed with Andrew, so I
>> supposed the mother of our crazy country might care to see how awry we
>> have gone.
>>
>> I'm sure Windows Mail supports killfiles, use it if offended by us US
>> of A kooks.
>
> OK, I see - traditional crosspost-as-insult. Makes up most of uk.p.s.m's
> traffic at the moment. I can't make out what it is you're arguing about,
> but I hope you both enjoy it.

Pardon! Crosspost as example of our kooks, now for you and your dead
group to decide which are. If you think you can deal with crazies and
get rational, it time to appraise yourself. lol

Brian Gene Kelley

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Dec 1, 2011, 4:55:30 PM12/1/11
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On Dec 1, 4:52 am, "Jimmy Alpha; GED" <jimmy_al...@operamail.com>
wrote:

>
> > Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
> > Jimmy.
>
> So true sightwalker.
>
> > Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
> > from Him for the latter:
>
> Perhaps this the reason so few trust what you say here?

Oh well, that's different when it comes to Andrew B, Chung. He's a
loner with special singular discernment that no one else has.


> > Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
> > Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and Elijah, who have
> > not ever died, instead of walking with you who have been cursed by
> > Him:

Yes, Andrew B. Chung is the Elijah of of this generation. He has extra
special powers from God no one else has.

> Are you judging sightwalker? Jimmy has the same curse as all, "For there
> is no respect of persons with God,". God does not show partiality as
> told in Romans 2:11

This applies to everyone except for Andrew B. Chung.

> > "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
> > in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Writing the Bible anew andypoo?

Only Andrew B. Chung may pass judgement upon others.
Andrew B. Chung has been granted special powers which allow him to do
so. Andrew B. Chung is a tunnel to God, the rest of us all all peons.


> Heb 9:27 "And just as each person is destined to die once and after that
> comes judgment", I like all before me have the curse of Adam, as does
> Enoch and Elijah, and as do the sightwalker too.

You're playing with fire Jimmy and you will be burned.

Bottom line regarding your rejection of Andrew B. Chung as the Elijah
of the 21st century:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

Jimmy Alpha; GED

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Dec 1, 2011, 5:40:52 PM12/1/11
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On 12/1/2011 4:55 PM, Brian Gene Kelley wrote:
> On Dec 1, 4:52 am, "Jimmy Alpha; GED"<jimmy_al...@operamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Faith in GOD and His written Word (Romans 10:9) is not faith in you,
>>> Jimmy.
>>
>> So true sightwalker.
>>
>>> Trust in GOD is not trusting others, like you, for there is a curse
>>> from Him for the latter:
>>
>> Perhaps this the reason so few trust what you say here?
>
> Oh well, that's different when it comes to Andrew B, Chung. He's a
> loner with special singular discernment that no one else has.
>
>
>>> Thus, this physician is a follower (Luke 9:23) of GOD and walks with
>>> Him, Who is sight unseen, in faith as did Enoch and Elijah, who have
>>> not ever died, instead of walking with you who have been cursed by
>>> Him:
>
> Yes, Andrew B. Chung is the Elijah of of this generation. He has extra
> special powers from God no one else has.

But can he look into a stereo microscope and see as such with his lazy
eye? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iWcoqhBk8M

I think if he had that obama mole burn off under the eye, and had a set
of Lisa Rinna collagenized hemorrhoid lips it might take attention off
the eye in his ads for the omer diet. I know if a naked lady was in the
back ground I wouldn't stop watching Andrew's eye, hoping to see it
snaps into focus.

>> Are you judging sightwalker? Jimmy has the same curse as all, "For there
>> is no respect of persons with God,". God does not show partiality as
>> told in Romans 2:11
>
> This applies to everyone except for Andrew B. Chung.

Si

>>> "Jimmy's written prophecy that Rod will die will be applied to Jimmy
>>> in a way that will be meaningful to all." -- Holy Spirit
>>
>> Writing the Bible anew andypoo?
>
> Only Andrew B. Chung may pass judgement upon others.
> Andrew B. Chung has been granted special powers which allow him to do
> so. Andrew B. Chung is a tunnel to God, the rest of us all all peons.
>
>
>> Heb 9:27 "And just as each person is destined to die once and after that
>> comes judgment", I like all before me have the curse of Adam, as does
>> Enoch and Elijah, and as do the sightwalker too.
>
> You're playing with fire Jimmy and you will be burned.

I knew I should've quoted KJV only! lol

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 2, 2011, 8:05:41 PM12/2/11
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"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- Prodigally false Bible teacher
cited by someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the children wanted to say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of
candy, they could not because they needed to be born again per John
3:3 & 5 to become new creatures http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2
Corinthians 5:17 so that He would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 &
36:26 and they would be His children)

May GOD curse to the Nth generation all who falsely teach that "Anyone
can say 'Jesus is LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

"The absolutely only way a deaf-mute can say 'Jesus is LORD' is by the
Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say "Jesus is LORD"'
has been logically proven to be false." -- gentile Christian disciple
in the Holy Spirit

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote on
11/27/11:
>
> Claire and I are going to be in church tomorrow, Android er, Andrew.
> How about you?

Those of us who are ever mindful of WDJW ( http://WDJW.net ), both
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing what the LORD wants with all
glory to GOD the Father are in His Church (Matthew 16:18) all the time
even as we now write and post on Usenet.

As for going to a church building to tithe and to edify by truthfully
saying "wonderfully hungry" (Luke 6:21a) whenever greeted, this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is guided by the Holy Spirit
( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling in his mind to do that this
morning (11/27/11) instead of tomorrow (11/28/11).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84eebdc7b620bc33?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:

> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
> blotted from God's Book of Life?

The reason is simply your lying by writing/saying that "hunger is
starvation" to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to the Holy Spirit:

Brian Gene Kelley

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Dec 2, 2011, 9:06:17 PM12/2/11
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Andrew B. Chung wrote:

> Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'

Verification that anyone can say Jesus is Lord:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1R3RsjoAYQ

"Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it
is a dishonor to him" -- Apostle Paul (1 Corinthians 11:14)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 11:14 by a reprobate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyg90JPUs7o

> correct

Claire and I go to Church on a regular basis, Android er, Andrew.
How about you?

> As for going to a church building to tithe, this physicin is guided by the Holy Spirit
> indwelling in his mind to do that later

It is written that we are to prove such things (1 Thessalonians
5:21).
Not answering the above yes/no question with a written
affirmative should convince all that you have yet to be welcome to and
regularly attend a fellowship of Spirit filled true disciples of Jesus
Christ of Nazareth.

> (Though the children wanted to say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of
> candy, they could not
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

Himm... Looks like little kids being exploited and never given a fair
opportunity to say Jesus is Lord. Did they know they were being
filmed? Did the parents of those little girls give permission for them
to be filmed and posted on YouTube?

> "The absolutely only way a deaf-mute can say 'Jesus is LORD' is by the
> Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say "Jesus is LORD"'
> has been logically proven to be false." -- gentile Christian disciple
> in the Holy Spirit

Can Andrew post a video of a deaf-mute saying 'Jesus is LORD'?

After all, it is written that we are to prove such things (1
Thessalonians 5:21).
Your not answering the above yes/no question with a written
affirmative should convince all that you have yet to prove anything.

> May GOD change your stony heart to a fleshy one (Ezekiel 11:19-29 &
> 36:26)

What is it Andrew is always posting about the heart?

> For he heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure.(Jeremiah 17:9)

Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
blotted from God's Book of Life?

> The reason is simply your lying by writing/saying that "hunger is
> starvation" to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to the Holy Spirit:

Ah, just like Andrew just wrote "hunger is starvation" above.

> correct

Write/say it again.

> "hunger is starvation"

Oh no, Andrew wrote/said "hunger is starvation" again.


And here's Andy with yet another one of his bald-faced "Book of Life
blotting" lies:

> someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote on
> 11/27/11:
>
> > Claire and I are going to be in church tomorrow, Android er, Andrew.
> > How about you?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.prayer/msg/8b1ca40e61b76051?hl=en


The documented archived truth:

On Nov 26, 11:13 pm 2011, "Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD"
metalicstu...@gmail.com wrote:
> Claire and I are going to be in church tomorrow, Android er, Andrew.
> How about you?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a968a800255adc78?hl=en

Silly Andy thought I posted that on Sunday, instead of Saturday, got
smarmy, and ended up with egg on his face, again. Little Andy's pride
keeps him in bot denial ROFL

Bottom line regarding false loner teachers like Andrew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcEWZceWhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

unread,
Dec 10, 2011, 7:43:17 PM12/10/11
to
"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- A false Bible teacher cited by
someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse to the Nth generation all who grieve
His Holy Spirit by falsely teaching that "Anyone can say 'Jesus is
LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"The absolutely only way a deaf-mute can say 'Jesus is LORD' is by the
Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say "Jesus is LORD"'
has been logically proven to be false." -- gentile Christian disciple
in the Holy Spirit

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote on
11/27/11:
>
> Claire and I are going to be in church tomorrow, Android er, Andrew.
> How about you?

Those of us who are ever mindful of WDJW ( http://WDJW.net ), both
thinking/saying/writing **and** doing what the LORD wants with all
glory to GOD the Father are in His Church (Matthew 16:18) all the time
even as we now write and post on Usenet.

As for going to a church building to tithe and to edify by truthfully
saying "wonderfully hungry" (Luke 6:21a) whenever greeted, this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is guided by the Holy Spirit
( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) indwelling in his mind to do that this
morning (11/27/11) instead of tomorrow (11/28/11).

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/84eebdc7b620bc33?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:

> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andy provide a concise, link free,
> straightforward explanation of precisely why this person's name was
> blotted from God's Book of Life?

The reason is simply your lying by writing/saying that "hunger is
starvation" to someone in the Holy Spirit is lying to the Holy Spirit:

"Then Peter (in the Holy Spirit) said, 'Ananias, how is it that satan
has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and
have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold,
wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a
thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to GOD.' When
Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all
who heard what had happened." (Acts 5:3-5)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29b32e2446470998?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> <burp> we had a Thanksgiving buffet at the fellowship I attend Sunday
> eve, and I'm still feeling the effects.
>
> I'd like to see Doc Andy at one of those, holding up the line by
> weighing each portion of turkey and trimmings while making his
> calculations

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52ff4b8b4947454c?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) weighs his meal (not
individual food items) right before giving thanks to the LORD for the
**amount** in ounces that He has provided and concluding by saying
"Jesus Christ is LORD" so that all would be encouraged that this is
being done in the Holy Spirit on a daily basis:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/WDJW/196255898065

Just as the "hunger is starvation" lie (Genesis 25:32) caused Esau to
be accursed (Malachi 1:2-3) to the Nth generation so that they've all
been blotted out of GOD's Book of Life the same has happened to
you ...

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/29c54da667a5fa0f?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote on
the subject line of a post on 12/4/2011:

"Chung can't say 'Jesus is Lord'"

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5d8f31bfe437fc67?

If that were true, there wouldn't be an updated outgoing cellphone
voicemail message for today (12/4/2011) with this physician (
http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) quoting 1 Corinthians 12:3 for all to
witness :-)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bc656c9738f0cec?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > ... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
>
> The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked
> (Jeremiah 17:9)

Hence, mind, with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit
), over the heart.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/354ffd3ca8c22eca?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

> > > "For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading
> > > as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for satan himself masquerades
> > > as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants
> > > also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what
> > > their actions deserve" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
> >
> > According to what is written in the Bible, apostles, either true or
> > false, are Jewish and not Chinese. The original 12 Apostles were Jewish.
>
> Wrong. The Apostle Luke was a Gentile (cf. Colossians 4:10-14)

Apostle Paul writing "Luke, the doctor" (Colossians 4:14) is not his
writing "Luke, the Apostle." Moreover, Luke was Greek and not Chinese
making 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 not applicable to this **Chinese**
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) even if Luke were an Apostle of
Christ.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/aa0db022a9a46d77?

someone whose name has been blotted from GOD's Book of Life wrote:
>
> The charlatan Christian says, "The fact that I can quote the words
> written in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, proves that I'm a genuine Christian".

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524c5702d8c4db06?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not witnessed anyone
saying that.

Instead, what he has witnessed is born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Christians
saying "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.

> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
> Corinthians 12:3b.

Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around you to the Nth
generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
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