Dr. Andrew Ben-Hua Chong MD/PhD His original Origin of the 2PD-Omer, Two Pound Diet Plane
Peter B
it is in its entirety.
QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
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Since I started seeing patients in clinic in 1994, I discovered that there
existed a dreadful health problem that predicted certain mortality and was
resistant to my very best efforts at treatment. Cardiovascular problems,
endocrine abnormalities, and even cancers were more responsive to treatment
than this increasingly more common "ailment."
Yes, I am talking about obesity. Despite valiant counseling by clinic
nutritionists and dietitians... despite calorie counting... despite food
journals... despite exercise... my obese patients typically (more than 90%)
gained rather than lost weight.
Americans are getting fatter! Recently, airlines in the U.S. have widened
the width of the seats on their planes to accommodate this trend of
increasing obesity. Why is this happening?
As much as I am a big proponent of genetics being behind many human
ailments, this trend of increasing girth is occurring too fast to be a
phenomenon of newly inherited obesity genes. Instead, I suspect that what
has changed is the increasing success of the food industry toward getting
people to eat and drink more. There are the extra value meals, the biggie
fries, and the supersizing. There are the buffets and the all-you-can
eateries. There is the emphasis of three meals per day and four food groups
(Got milk?). There are the soda and snack machines at every corner. There
are the cholesterol free, low-fat or fat-free foods that prey on the popular
misconception that eating *more* of these foods is healthier.
This has got to stop.
About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt.
Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food per
day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to
assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing
folks.
So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese patients in my
care. I gave them ordinary food scales with instructions to weigh everything
substantial that passed into their mouths. The only things exempted were
water and sugar-free drinks. What I learned was that my obese patients was
consuming between 8 to 12 lbs. of food per day! At the time, I was about 10
lbs. over my ideal body weight so I decided to find out how much I was
eating per day... 3 lbs. I cut back to less than 2 lbs. and was at my proper
weight in one month.
My patients have responded similarly except they have taken longer because
of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese patients were
especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the ones with an
unfortunate propensity for accidentally knocking their food scales off the
table and taking weeks to buy replacements.
Here are the instructions I give my patients:
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End of Quote
Where is there a problem with this?
Comment by Web site reader
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To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Subject: dehydrated foods
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:45:23 -0700
From: xxx...@sonic.net
Hi Andrew,
I found your diet and website interesting, but have a comment about the
following, in your FAQ:
----
Wasn't the food the climbers would have taken when climbing Mount Everest
dehydrated or freeze dried.
Ok... 10 lbs of dried food + 4 lbs of snow = 14 lbs of rehydrated food.
14 lbs divided by 7 days = 2 lbs per day.
----
I go camping and backpacking regularly and eat lots of deyhdrated foods.
Typically they require between 2 and 4 times their weight in water. (e.g. 4
ounces of dry food might require between 8 and 16 oz of water depending on
whether it is an entree or soup).
So, even taking the low end of that figure, 2 times, we get:
10 lbs of food + 20 lbs of water = 30 lbs or 4.3 lbs per day.
This is similar to Shintani's review of the diet litereature which shows
that people who free feed (eat as much as the want) are satisfied with
around 4 lbs of food per day.
I am intrigued by your diet, I was able to keep off 40 lbs for a year by
journalling and counting calories (and eating whatever I wanted, just in
reduced quantities). It was very hard and unpleasant work and I finally was
unable to keep it up. I hate journalling. I hate stopping eating when the
food looks so good. By sheer will power I can do it for short periods of
time (a few weeks to a year), but it never seems to become habit for me.
Needless to say I have put the weight back on. I don't see how I could
convince myself to only eat 2 lbs of food per day for the rest of my life. I
could do for a little while, but not for the rest of my life. Sucks.
--
Michelle xxxxxx
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>
> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) remains unchanged.
> Here it is in its entirety.
> QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
> ========================================================
>
> < old web site material that did not credit the LORD snipped>
>
> About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt.
> Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
> consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food per
> day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to
> assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing
> folks.
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all
truth. HE will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears,
and He will tell you what is yet to come." -- LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth (John 16:13)
Amen.
Yes, the LORD gets all the glory for His http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach :-)
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> Stop all your cross posting to non-related NG's, like all the Christian
> related ones, the diabetes related (they really do not want to see you and
> all the associated posts there) and confine your posting to this cardiology
> NG.
It remains wise to be ever mindful of WDJW, both thinking/saying/
writing **and** doing what the LORD wants instead of what others want.
>In exchange I will confine your FAQ's here as well and I will refrain from
>replying to your posts unless they specifically mention me. You may reply as
>many times as you feel necessary to the FAQ's.
It is written that a lamp should not be covered.
>You have enough web sites and other blogs with which to plague people with
>your idea's.
Again, it is written that a lamp should not be covered.
>Oh, and if God did freely give you help and insight when you were dead then
>why are you charging others to find out what He said to you?
The publisher sets the price for the books.
>Jesus commanded His disciples to take no gold, silver or copper, neither
>Tunic not sandals for the work they were doing in Healing, Miracles, casting
>out of Demons. Jesus said, Freely you received freely give.
It is written that Apostle Paul was paid for making tents.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40083220fca980ac?
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote (edited to
make truthful):
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >
> > Those who have read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com
> > **know** for a fact that Peter B.'s soul is perishing starting with
> > the fact that he lied about this physician being married to someone
> > other than E-Lee, who is the mother of his daughter Celestin:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/412e938f84f33959?
>
> True, you have rejected that which is false, have continued to write truthfully, and I
> have not read what is written at http://CelestinMiracle.com else I would have known
> that you are married to a woman named E-Lee and not Dorothy, who is your sister.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5cc1cf4316e06a0d?
May the above editing be instructive in the name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth. Amen.
And now even faux-christian Peter B. is realizing what we, who have
been made discerning by the Holy Spirit, have known about his
condition all along:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ab7b50ae92c869e?
Laus Deo :-)
Yes, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) still has on the full
armor of GOD as evident by his being http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote asking why
Georgia expunged HeartDoc Andrew's criminal records:
> I wonder why? What was there? (State of Georgia)
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d6a27a0d2f6d281b?
Those who really want to know will purchase and read the amazing book
titled "Be Hungry:"
http://www.amazon.com/Be-Hungry-Andrew-Chung/dp/0595456413/
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will use the time with the doctor to ask questions about my heart
> >> > > problems. It's my guess that my cardiologist has more important
> >> > > issues to deal with than what happens in newsgroups. I have noticed that very
> >> > > few doctors visit newsgroups. It would be great if thousands of doctors
> >> > > subscribed to various medical newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > They used to in the early pre-AOL days. Then their patients got
> >> > newsgroup access and chased them off.
> >>
> >> I did not know that
> >
> > Lurkers don't really chase anyone away from Usenet participation.
> >
> > Instead, it is the bad behavior of the perishing like Peter B., Ken,
> > GSI et al that chases people away.
>
> I am in good health.
Folks in good health do not exhibit bad behavior (Chump Syndrome).
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/49995e9f071cd581?
Behaving like an idiot is bad behavior:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/803e83b8610d8b4b?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>28. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
> >> >>-------------------------------------
> >> >>Dr. Chung's contract at the Central Florida Heart Center was
> >> >>terminated *for cause* after less than four months of
> >> >>employment.
> >> >>
> >> >>29. What does "for cause" mean?
> >> >
> >> > Source of question:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/999756db0faad96c?
> >> >
> >> > "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it." -- retired
> >> > physician, Dr. Hildner, who was replaced by Dr. Chung
Source of quote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/dda6f140e862c223?
Proof of Dr. Hildner's retired status:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
> >> For just cause you were eliminated.
> >
> > If it were just cause, Dr. Hildner would not have written "you lost
> > your job because you talked yourself out of it."
>
> Wrong
It remains an experience shared by all that when there is just cause
for action that such just cause is invariably publicized from the
outset. For example, the unprovoked Iraqi invasion of Kuwait was
publicized from the outset as just cause for U.S. Operation Desert
Storm against Iraq:
http://www.free-essays.us/dbase/c6/dkt127.shtml
Truth is simple :-)
It remains wise to tell patients the truth instead of harming them
with lies:
Primum non nocere
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6aa75b17b4c7ec70?
faux-christian Peter B suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part in the past:
>
> > Actually, Dr. Hildner was replaced by me as he was retired back in 2001
> > after having to settle for several sizeable malpractice awards.
>
> Did Chung really lie?
No. It remains this physician's choice to continue to write truthfully
then and now.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d37a8f5efc26e520?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> MU wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > MU wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
>>> >>> of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
>>> >>> by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating
>>> >>> 32 oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
>>> >>> else who have been doing the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
>>> >>> according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, the right amount control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much more
>>> >>> sophisticated and smarter:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
>>> >>
>>> >>"Yes, I would agree, and as I've posted in the past, I've discovered
>>> >>by experiment that with my typical kind of diet, 2lbs is about the
>>> >>threshold for me above which I gain weight and below which I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm sure, however, that you can recall a number of doctors
>>> >>disagreeing with your diet on the grounds that a member of the public
>>> >>couldn't be trusted not to eat 2lbs of ice cream and think they were
>>> >>following your diet."
>>> >>
>>> >>See, there's proof. Just because you have you Ph.D. doesn't mean you
>>> >>can't succumb to the most ridiculous of arguments.
>>> >
>>> > Moreover, Bob Pastorio, who has argued the most against the
>>> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach, did not even have a Ph.D. unless one
>>> > in the culinary arts has been since posthumously conferred upon him.
>>>
>>> Howdy, Andrew, Pastorio's only degree was in the level of assclown he
>>> obtained.
>>>
>>> Full fledged imo i.e. FF.A.
>>>
>>> MU
>>
>> Meet Bob Pastorio's palindrome, Peter B.
>>
>> BP (Bob Pastorio) --> PB (Peter B.)
>>
>> A mirror image:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af1f2d9f004b20ed?
>>
>> Just as BP could not comprehend the fact that the ephah did not exist
>> at the time of Moses and the writing of Exodus for us to remove
>> the parentheses (for parenthetical) from around what is found at
>> Exodus 16:36 neither can PB.
>
>Don't know any BP and they aren't me.
>
>Here are the books in order that they were written.
>1: Genesis
>2: Exodus
>3: Leviticus
>4: Numbers
>5: Deuteronomy
>
>So if Deuteronomy was written later what difference would your statement
>make. NONE
It is because Deuteronomy was written after Exodus that the words
which the Holy Spirit ( http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) has guided this
physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) to write has much weight :-)
>
>> 36 (An omer is one tenth of an ephah.)
>>
>> Source:
>>
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2016:36&version=NIV
>>
>> "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit referring to
>> Exodus 16:36
>
> You just blasphemed The Holy Spirit.
Not for the discerning who realize from the above that indeed this
gentile Christian disciple really is in the Holy Spirit:
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Great Physician (GOD) is always right and He prescribes the
> > http://WDJW.net/2PDOMER Approach (Exodus 16:16) which is amount control.
> >
>
> 16"This is what the LORD has commanded, 'Gather of it every man as much as
> he should eat; you shall take an omer apiece according to the number of
> persons each of you has in his tent.'"
Amen.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/229a001f65628263?
> Omer = 3.3 liters.
Incorrect. What is described in Scripture is that an omer of manna was
sealed in a jar and placed in the Ark of the Covenant by Aaron for
future generations to possibly learn about it. As we all know, the Ark
of the Covenant has since been lost to us.
Thankfully, GOD has allowed us to empirically determine that an omer
of food that is ready to eat (i.e. manna) weighs 32 ounces as evident
by this physician's own life ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) of eating 32
oz of daily food since 1997 (13 years to date) along with everyone
else who have been doing the same.
An omer of food is simply the right amount of food for every person
according to what is written at Exodus 16:16.
Holding to an omer of food per day is the right amount control:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d740c3a4191d3e1b?
Yes, the right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?
faux-christian Peter B. suffering from Chump Syndrome wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Freckles wrote:
>
> >> Eat more whole grains for a better diet.
> >>
> >> http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/reap-the-benefits-of-whole-grains
> >
> > Eat the right amount (32 oz) per day for better health and wellbeing.
>
> That is a particularly ignorant/dumb statement.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/443f61cdd0473b11?
Not for the discerning who are familiar with Proverbs 25:16 which
teaches us that eating the right amount of food is more important for
health and wellbeing than what we are eating.
Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:
2 Peter 2:22
Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
Here is another's opinion about you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ad3ab8bf96435b6?
Bottom line concerning you, Peter:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ff4db1285334b4e3?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality
I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state
ok some call it DEAD
that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.
Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly. Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.
Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.
Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.
Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.
In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.
I agree with this. This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else. I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e82824a99ba4f187?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?
We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach to get our...
and then...
so that there will be...
Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:
Mathematical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113247&l=9583a55b45&id=1467768946
Historical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113078&l=0071d60632&id=1467768946
Medical:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31107542&l=a51ee83a50&id=1467768946
Psychological:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31229810&l=0b3a2ad60b&id=1467768946
So that we really should http://WDJW.net/BeHungry and say we are
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry ) whenever we
are greeted:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31113612&l=cbe72c46ca&id=1467768946
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/63d9553d4c7b8f7b?
Peter B
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:0f827c9b-89db-4ba8...@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>
> faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>>
>> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
>
> The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
> ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) remains unchanged.
>
That is rich, link does not work, page under rewrite......again!
>> Here it is in its entirety.
>> QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
>> ========================================================
>>
>> < old web site material that did not credit the LORD snipped>
Which you did write and keep up for years. Now you try and hide it? Shame,
Shame.
>>
>> About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing
>> Mt.
>> Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
>> consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food
>> per
>> day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe
>> to
>> assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us
>> non-climbing
>> folks.
>
> "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all
> truth. HE will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears,
> and He will tell you what is yet to come." -- LORD Jesus Christ of
> Nazareth (John 16:13)
>
> Amen.
>
> Yes, the LORD gets all the glory for His http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
> Approach :-)
>
Snipped the rest, stay on topic. Oh, who is your Lord? Money? K-Mart? Sears?
Great spam page, cheap pretentiousness. (Real cheap, trailer trash type
page.)
Dude, you are totally wigged out.
Seek the Lord.
Ace*
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in messagenews:0f827c9b-89db-4ba8-860c-> > The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
> > (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) remains unchanged.
>
> That is rich, link does not work, page under rewrite......again!
That's too bad. I guess I'll have to supplement it with the myriad
other stories by people who've had special revelations given to them
alone. I'm surprised Andrew Chung hasn't been given his own personal
tour of heaven and hell like Mark K. Baxter. He's just as disturbed as
she is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6pC-fmsjww
A*
Ace*
> I'm surprised Andrew Chung hasn't been given his own personal
> tour of heaven and hell like Mark K. Baxter. He's just as disturbed as
> she is.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6pC-fmsjww
One thing to note about Baxter is that her descriptions are based on
literary works such a Dante's Inferno rather than on the Bible.
If you want a stable person's take based solely on the Bible go here:
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_gregg/mp3/topical/three_views_of_hell-1.mp3
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_gregg/mp3/topical/three_views_of_hell-2.mp3
A*
Ace*
Another thing is that Baxter is a homosexual like myself. I do prefer
turd packing to balls licking but that's me being me.
A*
Peter B
"Ace*" <avlvsv...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44cc97f5-8828-46f9...@v35g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Dl'd them and listening now. Voice sounds familiar.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>
> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) remains unchanged.
> Here it is in its entirety.
> QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
> ========================================================
>
> < old web site material that did not credit the LORD snipped>
>
> About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt.
> Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
> consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food per
> day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to
> assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing
> folks.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9720084402b6996d?
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all
truth. HE will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears,
and He will tell you what is yet to come." -- LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth (John 16:13)
Amen.
Yes, the LORD gets all the glory for His http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach :-)
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
Jan Drew
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in messagenews:0f827c9b-89db-4ba8...@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>
> >> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
>
> > The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
>
> That is rich, link does not work, page under rewrite......again!
Forum: What changes in the health care delivery system do you think
are essential?
NEJM | August 5, 2009 | Topics: Comments
It works.
Peter B
news:ef964796-2ded-49ad...@y3g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 13, 12:48 pm, "Peter B" <.@.> wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:0f827c9b-89db-4ba8...@l17g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>>
>> >> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
>>
>> > The written account of how the Holy Spirit inspired this physician
>> > (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) remains unchanged.
>>
This link has nothing to due with your subject, it is a health report page.
>> That is rich, link does not work, page under rewrite......again!
>
> http://wdjw.net/HeartDoc
>
> Forum: What changes in the health care delivery system do you think
> are essential?
> NEJM | August 5, 2009 | Topics: Comments
>
> It works.
It is the same as the link above. He must have deleted the article rather
then suffering ridicule.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
faux-christian Peter B. simply because we truly "agape" love him as
our LORD commands with all glory to GOD the Father.
faux-christian Peter B. wrote:
>
> Had he stuck to his original story where would the problem be with it?
The written account of how the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of Truth
(John 16:13) inspired this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
remains unchanged from the outset.
> Here it is in its entirety.
> QUOTING Andrew Chungs Web page. 2000
> ========================================================
>
> < outdated web site material that did not credit the LORD snipped>
>
> About two years ago, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing Mt.
> Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers
> consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less than 2 lbs. of food per
> day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to
> assume that 2 lbs. per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing
> folks.
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9720084402b6996d?
"But when He, the Spirit of Truth, comes, He will guide you into all
truth. HE will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears,
and He will tell you what is yet to come." -- LORD Jesus Christ of
Nazareth (John 16:13)
Amen.
Yes, the LORD gets all the glory for His http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER
Approach :-)
faux-christian Peter B. wrote: